KIA SPORTAGE GDI FUEL RAIL PRESSURE TOO LOW P0087 DIAGNOSIS & FIX

In today's video we take a look at a 2016 Kia Sportage w/ a 2.4l 4 cylinder engine. The customer complaint is that the engine has an extended long crank time during start up, the engine runs poorly, it misfires and there is a check engine light on in the instrument cluster. Using a scan tool we find trouble code P0087 stored, which tells us that the pressure in the fuel rail is too low. The customer has already replaced the in tank fuel pump, the GDI high pressure fuel pump and the fuel rail pressure sensor. However, the problem still persist and the check engine light comes back almost immediately. Let's see if we can solve this mystery together, fix this vehicle and get the customer back on the road!
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[@erwinpadgett1050]

You never know what you'll find when you're looking into other people's problems. Hell of a good job. Been working on vehicles since 1972.

[@mubirulawrence2853]

thats a lot of experience🎉

[@williamwhite9767]

Cleaning up after someone else is tricky sometimes. Excellent diag!

[@exxxplict_kidd]

I got a car. Went to change plugs all the nuts that hold the plugs in were missing 😂

[@loveofchrist5808]

Hello young man I live here in Dallas Texas I always find your videos so fascinating because I’ll be honest with you I don’t think I could figure that one out. Well also I’m 60 years old when I was trained many many many years ago things were a lot simpler now engines and everything else that goes underneath the car has gotten to be so complicated you need computers and stuff like that but once again thank you for your video God bless you and your family and all your viewers thank you once again for a fabulous video. ✝️✝️✝️🇺🇸

[@ricardorodriguez-se7tp]

Hi im from Dallas aswell im a mechanic and like watching his videos.

[@loveofchrist5808]

@@ricardorodriguez-se7tp mr. Rodriguez do you work in the shop or do you do your own repairs at your place residency, I’m asking because I have a van it’s giving me all sorts of trouble so I was hoping to see and talk to you through email? God bless you sir please let me know if you were interested and doing some work for me thank you and God bless you and your family and friends.✝️✝️✝️🇺🇸

[@GeorgeMalonedj]

Glad you are back, we need professional diagnosis you always provide. Also nice new branding!

[@regkarn1]

I probably never would have figured that out. Well done.

[@Ken-1]

Honestly. Goes to show that assumptions are a tech's biggest enemy. I would have assumed the job was done right for time's sake, but that would have cost me the job. Nice reminder to just take the extra time to be sure (where reasonable)!

[@deepthiwijekoon7283]

If a less knowledgeble investigated he would have diagnosed a faulty new high pressure fuel pump the replacement which would not have solved the problem. Top marks to you diagnosing the real cause!

[@pbr549]

I enjoyed the part of the video when Eric said they have blown engines in the back. I guess I am happy with my rescue Honda Civic with 224k miles on it. She ain’t pretty but gets 31.5 mpg. Great video.

[@jasonmurdoch9936]

Damn I thought you died I hadn't seen a video on at least two months from you glad to see you're alive and still doing well thanks for the video

[@84DavidM777]

I replaced the cam follower in my sonata and was advised not to since those Fuel lines carry a whole lot of pressure. Great video! You sure don't make it easy to decide weather XTool or Launch...

[@LuisGonzalez-jh3um]

I have xtools D8 and regret it, not reliable or consistent. Should’ve gotten a launch like Eric! Now I’m selling my xtools, doesn’t do a lot of things it should and like Eric said I can’t wait days for an update.

[@CACOS-ALIVE]

The average mech wld have never observed such essential piece was missing. WOW!👍🏾

[@404notfound.....]

Excellent diagnostic work!! you never cease to amaze me!!! 👍

[@HLChow]

I learn so much from you! You're a technical genius!

[@dtandfam8100]

Welcome back! Thankfully the cam was not destroyed. Thanks for sharing 👍

[@Farseer1995]

Congratz, fantastic process of doing a proper diagnosis. Thats exactly what separates a mechanic from someone who just throws parts at a repair hoping to fix something along the way. Sure, you could do that, but that'll cost a lot of money. Aint gonna lie, as a mechanic, sometimes I also have to take an educated guess, there are just too many variables involved and way to many deviances between car makes and models but thats NEVER an excuse for not doing a proper diagnosis. Eg for example, practically all petrol engines prumye the fuel pump at the key on. EXCEPT for my 1.8T A6 which fuel relay sends a signal to primes only once it recieves a signal from the crankshaft sensor... I spent 4 days trying to figure thay out... At least it was my own car. Also, just for the record, I never trust anyone who said that they have already replaced parts thenselves. You never know what was the quality of the said parts. I remember fitting a customers camshaft sensor having given in to their reasoning that what they bought was "good enough"... Only afterwards I double checked the product company (as the customer never gave me the original parts box) and it was one of the worst aftermarket makes anyone could buy. Swapped it out for an expensive part and suddenly the ECU could register camshaft rotations properly.

[@billyyoder8171]

XTool lost many cool points. That was hilarious how you were giving multiple props about the tool. The top secret function they wouldn't let you talk about. Then the units of measure fiasco. Epic.

[@ThunderbirdRocket]

Tremendous teaching techniques ! Great video shots to coincide with your coaching ! Thanks !!!

[@eddiego8044]

That's awesome how you diagnosed the whole issue ! Well done man

[@DANNYN224]

Great diagnosis pretty hard code to troubleshoot and fix

[@arthuraucar3696]

Good job!! At the beginning of the video I guessed a flat cam, but that was just a guess!!! Thanks for the video! Very informative..!

[@mikechiodetti4482]

You gotta know the system in order to diagnose it. Early on in the video I was thinking a slightly worn camshaft, but you have to do the tests like Eric did here. Learned something new about the roller. Do all GDI pumps have the roller like this Kia? I have a 2020 Toyota RAV4 with the A25A FKS engine that has GDI. Does this engine have that roller? Good diagnosis Eric! Thanks for this video.

[@richardsawtell256]

i have lost count the amount of times people have done this on the 2.4 theta gdi hyundai / kia engine , yet when i have had to replace rocker cover gaskets i have never had that come out , but such a common issue if you are unaware

[@danielsanford4109]

Good job man! I'm impressed, and I'm a mechanic with over forty years experience.

[@jessejames96]

Nice catch by any time you loosen the high pressure pump bolts and the high pressure metal line they all need to be replaced. They are torque to yield bolts and the high pressure line is designed as one time use as well.

[@djosbun]

Another brilliant *cough cough* DIYer that ended up spending more money than if he went straight to a competent mechanic. Superb video, Eric!

[@angusalamezie6193]

We're back. Good to see you bro

[@ADVANCEDLEVELAUTO]

Thanks for sticking around!

[@dandan3643]

I mean nice find but correct me if I'm wrong but I could hear a tapping noise coming from that engine when it was running. Hopefully there is no cam damage without the roller.

[@chukschi3759]

Feels good to have you back on the field mate...

[@TheSamjusto12]

I have a quick question . I was watching a video from awhile back . The one with your brother chevy cruze . Did you ever get that fixed? I saw that he needed a catalytic converter. I'm have the same issue with my cruze . Getting a po420 code also .

[@jluna1279]

Welcome back bro I was on round 3 of rewatching your other videos.

[@AnthonyLovato]

Launch for the win. I know you are trying to highlight other scanners, however, I'm biased to the Launch. I enjoy all of your content, but the content with the Launch are the ones I save. Keep up the great work.🤙

[@TheFrenchPug]

Excellent diagnosis!

[@Hybriddiag]

Diy is always dangerous 😳 ☠️ 😑 especially when motive is just save some buks on mechenic..at the end diy guy learned a lesson 😀..great diag.cheers

[@amjadzidaoi4011]

Missing you. Glad to see you back. Thanks for this awesome video.

[@shaffere33]

xtool needs to add a recent vehicle tab or vehicle history. It's so annoying when I go back into the same vehicle I'm working on and I have to re-autoscan it

[@martyg3757]

Even though you are not familiar with Hpa vs Psi, you could have continued with the original scanner. The important facts are the relative numbers When there is a difference between actual vs requested of 3X, you know what you need to know.

[@boatsail1]

Great detective and mechanic work.

[@johnchambers12]

That would be the reason for a sign that reads, if i fix your car i charge $40 and if you try to fix it first $200, and thanks for sharing the 431 update

[@chrisguillen1495]

Hell of a diagnosis and fix brother. Great video

[@on-site4094]

X tool not so great 😂 good old launch👍. great diagnosis

[@Speedraider366]

Being missing the new vids, great diag!!

[@DRDROP-fj4bo]

I am with you. hpa means nothing to me. Waiting on the update for my D8.👍 Thanks good video.

[@carlosolvera72]

Did you rule out leaking injectors because a lack of a rich condition and a rough or dead miss?

[@CarlosPerez-zo2ik]

Hi, love your videos and the way you diagnose electrical components. I have a convertible F type that the convertible top is not working. Have even changed the module and no luck. Have done a lot of work on it, I feel like I don't trust anyone with my car but I'll definitely would like if you can work on it.

[@kevinpalmer7452]

First class diagnosis 👍👍

[@carloscollazo6106]

Hi Eric the video was awesome keep up the good work😊

[@itsjustchris3306]

Great diag. The steps were easy to understand and great explanation

[@joecam956]

I have a 2013 Hyundai Accent with the same code. This thing turns off when intermittently and is hard to turn on. You leave it alone and then some time later it will turn on and work fine. Low pressure pump tests good. High pressure pump puts what it is asked to, no difference. I have only been able to duplicate the issue once and noticed that when it turned off the coils were not firing, but it does not set a code for anything else other than a knock sensor code. I know its hard but any guidance would help.

[@Gbaskipeace]

I commend you awesomely for the systematic diagnosis

[@hunndy]

Would love to know what order the owner replaced those parts.

[@mthedude4395]

Eric, have you ever used any of the Top Don diag tools? If you have, do you recommend any of them?

[@wshamroukh]

Long time no see man... Welcome back bro

[@3000gtgomez7]

Welcome back Great video, I’ve tried the xtool but it wasn’t for me. I’m in Houston, how can I take my car to you?

[@seanjackson1888]

Outstanding Video!

[@johnsmith-wd5sq]

Hey Eric, My Coworker has a 2017 kia sportage 4 cylinder with 92K on the clock. This thing is going through a quart of oil every 250 miles! It dont smoke and it dont leak. She took it some place and they replaced the Valve cover and pcv valve and it made no change. Any ideas what she should try next? Im baffled!Lol! Thanks

[@davidhall3747]

Pull the Spark Plugs out and examine them for signs of Engine Oil getting on them.

[@stephencorcoran2590]

​@@davidhall3747 plugs are directly in to the head, where oil splashes up and lubricate the entire inside 9f the engine bes8des water channel's. So oil 9n plugs is normal. Lol u shud be more spwcific like if the oil 8s a white whipped cream looking colour then the head has gone/piston ring's or even bott9m end. Least you tried to help i suppose thats the main thing

[@khaleiahrawls2705]

How do I contact him? Is he located in Houston? He always knows what he is talking about.

[@EvolveAutoFix]

Great video Eric ,which type of camera 📸 you are using?

[@fredsalter1915]

Great vid, Eric!!!!

[@myboy051]

I still use my snap on vantage pro. It’s compact and and takes care or most of the jobs I need the scope for. I have a 4ch also but the vantage pro is great for jobs like this. I wish snapon would still have updates for it. Sometimes it’s easier to just get the connector view from the scope itself.

[@johnnyvillarreal4677]

Hey I'm from Houston and have issues with my AC I seen a older vid where you fixed one. Do you have your shop on the area?

[@miguelsalazar3239]

Was the D9 changed to psi fixed?

[@abbasmuhsen2715]

Glad to see your informative videos Thanks bro

[@gelarataylar3286]

Do have any link on your scan tools mate

[@wryakurd1138]

Very nice video,Waiting for FIAT part 2

[@odishoodisho4904]

Great job thanks for sharing your experience

[@ryankeller8542]

Please share or add the fuel pressure kit you use to test the low fuel pressure.

[@mftahcamour2583]

شكرا لك💯

[@snoopy81]

I wish a snap on obd2 toys like you do!

[@myRACEisAdiscrace]

Love how the gas light was on at the same time

[@bee-u6905]

Hey I live in Houston Do u think u can fix my car I have a 2006 Chevy cobalt 2.2 Milky brown oil and water leaks

[@saedchammaa1958]

HE'S BACK!

[@leoncabral2699]

Chingones tus videos me gustaria que isieras videos en espanol tambien pero tal ves no lo able porque tienes un color European muy bien asentado

[@carlbyington5185]

GREAT job Bro....

[@Doug....]

Excellent diag Tony 👍👏👏👏

[@BobSmith-mj7ik]

The lesson here is pay attention to how things come apart

[@asokanarajun1859]

Wich pary

[@codyshaylyn]

Hey Eric we waiting for more videos

[@RL69420]

How’s it going, would you say this unit is better than the LAUNCH CRP919X?

[@sal87escobar10]

This guy without a scanner tool he wouldn't be able to fix anything. The name of the channel should be advance scanning

[@cooly350]

Great work Loved T-shirt with the new Logo

[@BenLinaAna]

This is why you don't agree to accept sponsored products without reviewing them first. Even though you shot down that crappy xtool scanner, you still gave them a push.

[@isalmankhan1]

Great work, Thanks for sharing Bro😍

[@kakeetoalex9924]

I would think fuel pressure guages are SI units, they would give the same units of measure across the board..

[@BJMiguel3]

Off topic message but this was your most current video to date but what is the launch tech support contact and are they pretty quick to reply? I’m looking to get the launch x431 series unsure which yet but I would like to go with someone with quick responses and xtool and autel take a day sometimes to reply and by then the job I need help on is gone and out the shop by then. Autel is a tad bit quicker to respond than xtool but wonder how quick launch is with tech support

[@fdamien80]

What feature was he talking about when he said xtool didn’t want him showing anymore? Thx

[@Toby_the_Glen]

Can't believe all those parts were changed before an accurate diagnosis was made? Crazy?

[@massinissaautoscan]

The best of all time

[@Mewanrahnam575]

Thankyou for being very detailed.

[@jonk6137]

I wish I lived near you these shops in pa are terrible at diag

[@westfield90]

Excellent work as always

[@davidessien5465]

Great engineer, please help! How can I solve this car problem? Recently, a client called me to fix his 2000 Toyota Avalon car that cranked but wasn't starting. From the onset, the car experienced several mechanical, as well as, electrical issues. Some of those problems were:- (1) Engine Oil consumption; (2) Engine misfire; (3) Engine rattling; (4) Intermittent hard starting after shutdown; (5) Hard to engage in drive, except engine is hot; etc. Hence, he took the car to a garage inorder to rectify the excessive Engine oil consumption and other car problems highlighted above. Consequently, the car problems exacerbated after engine rebuild by the engineer! The car owner wasn't satisfied with his repairs because it seems the engineer was deceitful. Although the car started after the rebuild, the problems still persisted. Valves weren't grinded after engine overhaul, engine still misfired at idle and when accelerating, etc. The engineer whose garage the car is presently being parked, requested for another engine overhau/ rebuildl. After engine rebuild the car started, the oil was mixed with water; the engine was still misfiring, rattling, etc. It was obvious, that he didn't use durable parts to do his work. Hence, the car owner moved the car to another garage for better repairs. The new garage suggested to the car owner that another engine rebuild is pertinent for optimal engine operation. During my conversation with this engineer, whose garage the car is presently being parked, he told me that: "when the car was first brought in, he noticed a black smoke ( maybe he was mistaken for blue smoke, at exhaust tail at idle). When accelerating, there's a loss of power, engine bucking, popping,etc. After the rebuild, the car didn't start because the mechanic didn't unlock the car with the remote but proceeded directly to cranking the engine. In addition, the security relay wasn't actuated for starting to take place. Electrician did some wire cutting around that axis which he said was corrected to factory, opened with a remote before the car started. Fortunately, after everything, the car started again. But there was still an intermittent misfire. What the car owner said was that, 'even when the second mechanic did engine rebuild, the car still misfired. Until he personally bypassed earth from the COP wire to the solenoids very close to the fuel injector often tightened with 10mm knot and depicted with blue and green colors on the picture. Car owner verified that the reasons for the misfire from both mechanics which still prevailed, was due to the solenoid valve that wasn't opening. That's why when accelerating it experienced a loss of power, similar to that experienced by a faulty fuel pump. After gear oil replacement and test driven by the second mechanic , smoke started emanating from the engine bay. Precisely, from the fan relay that the car owner connected by himself. Within few minutes, the car shutdown by itself as if fuel is finished. As he tried to restart it, the car refused to. Infact, when the ignition switch was turned to Acc/ ignition position, battery and fuel light was not displaying in the dashboard/ instrument cluster. However, during cranking battery light glew faintly and start. But when throttled, it would shutdown. Electrician verified and replaced the alternator diode with a new one. When Ignition switch was turned to Acc/ ignition position, the battery and other lights came out brightly but when cranked to start engine wouldn't start again. Sadly, it still wouldn't start. I tried to scan for DTC codes, but my scanner wasn't communicating. I checked all fuses, power and ground at obd port, those checked ok. but my scanner isn't compatible to read CAN network. there are only 4 wires intact for the obd2 port. Furthermore, I added fuel through the intake to the engine, no change at all. I checked for spark and injector pulse. These things weren't present. But there was power to injector with just the key at ignition or ACC and COP had 1 ground and 1 power as usual. Electrician from that garage, who also worked on the car said that he sniffed burning smell from the ECU, however personally I didn't when I went to start the car. I don't know how certain that was. Hence, I pulled out the ECU to a laptop board engineer to test the components inside. He said: "everything looks ok and test fine, however the IC he doesn't have the right tools to proceed with the test. With the ECU removed battery connected, Engine light would come ON. with ECU connected check light still comes ON. Before I left, I checked the MAF sensor 5 wires and noticed that 3 wires were earth instead of 2 and 1 power; no ignition current/ power was available for the remaining 2 wires. Please, what should I do to start the car?

[@MegaGsizzle]

Good stuff but you said you forgot to record the mechanic putting in the little bell and at the end you said he didn’t want to be on camera. Which one is it 😂😂😂

[@Android_Warrior]

HE'S BACK!, WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG????? 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂

[@daveast01]

Top vid. Thanks. From England UK

[@j.gtheautotech8455]

Lmao tell me why I had a suspicion that the high pressure fuel pump tapet / roller was missing

[@DJ-tn7vj]

Logo looking solid E

[@MattyEngland]

Thanks for another great vid Eric

[@bertrandducouedic8621]

Real good investigation

[@72Vw1302]

kia replaced my engine and never put the follower in. good thing i had an extra. a customer of mine had a kia sx turbo engine replaced and told him he needed a new fuel system. all it needed was the harness extension clipped in

[@ganeshnarayan5505]

Good Job Eric.

[@HuseinAbdulrahman-k7e]

Good job