AHSOKA Episode 4 Review & Theories- WHAT'S NEXT!?

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Written and Hosted by Ryan Arey ( / ryanarey )
Edited by Harriet Lengel-Enright and Brianna McLarty
Featuring:
Colton Ogburn ( / coltonogburn )
Dodson Seitz / banewruse
#Ahsoka #Episode4 #ScreenCrushReview
This was pretty great. I’ve got some nitpicks and some theories, and later on I’ll talk to Dodson Seitz and Colton Ogburn for their thoughts-and I gotta tell you this episode brings back one of my least favorite things in Star Wars I’ll talk about in a bit. And I’ve got some theories on where we’re going to go from here.
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So I felt like this episode and episode 3 really should have been one episode. Both were a half hour long and told a pretty incomplete story. Episode 3 was about Sabine and Ahsoka starting off at a low point and coming to work together, while this episode was the falling action. They begin together, but then are ripped apart.
I loved how this episode had an actual theme of attachment/. Ahsoka warns Sabine that sometimes she has to lose what she wants for the greater good [clip]. Which sets up her choice to find Ezra over keeping Thrawn away from the galaxy.
But this theme also resonates with hooks, who still feels guilt and attachment to Anakin over her role in his fall. She was disowned by the jedi council, which drove Anakin to mistrust the jedi council, which led to his fall. And Anakin is the poster boy for not attaching himself too much to others, because his love for Padme led to him turning to the dark side.
Even Hera's small story over two episodes shows this theme of attachment, where she is willing to disobey orders to help her friends-which is a watered down version of Anakin's turn to the dark side.
And as a star wars fan who devours every second of this universe there were so many rewards here. Like how the runes in the credits translate into star wars planets, and even this one in the map translates to occlusion zone, which is where the nihil live in the high republic novels.
So back to the connections to the wider universe in this episode. Seeing Hera with Carson Teva, Sabione using the Force, and that ending. That. Ending. For Clone Wars fans, Anakin and Ahsoka sporty is so tragic. From the moment we met her, we knew their friendship was going to end poorly, and the way they evolved over the years… [magento, perfection].
And I just love that we’re able to see these people from different eras from different media meet each other. Like that scene in Book of Boba Fett where Luke meets Ahsoka, is amazing. Hearing Ahsoka say [I’m a friend of the family]. That’s the stories that I’ve wanted to see since I was a kid. Luke rebuilding the Jedi order, all of that.
Doug: I mean, instead we’re doing this, but I Know what you mean.
The lightsaber fights were fine-but I think they got progressively better. In our easter egg video I talked about how the volume is great for visuals, but limits action. The fight in the woods takes place in front of the woods-I like the forest fight between Rey and Kylo Ren, which is more raw and tactile. Or even compare it to Andor, which used all practical sets and felt more groitty and immersive.
But the fight between Babylon and Ahsoka was top notch, with the two of them adapting different forms to gain an advantage.
And I love that Sabine chose her attachment over the mission, because it's so in keeping with her character. We've got a real empire strikes back ending here, with one character held captive by the bad guys, and another character facing a major identity crisis. Hell, this is a literal cliffhanger ending.
So as a Star Wars fan, I am excited.
Doug: What about the Marrok reveal? That was lame.

[@ScreenCrush]

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[@ryanhebert7368]

Hey Ryan! Love watching your channel! I come here for your in-depth breakdown and movie reviews. Top notch stuff! But there is one show that you are slacking on and that’s “Foundation” on Apple TV. The show is absolutely amazing and I really want you to review the 2 seasons please 🙏🏻

[@wbennin]

Yay! No Matt Singer! Thank you, Ryan

[@rickee9909]

funny that I never heard anyone mention the star killer reference from the obi Obi-Wan Kenobi show . . . not even... PAUL!!!~!

[@josermaiz]

My prediction is that Anakin became the father of the force

[@SpaceCaseZ06]

You're suggesting that episode 3 and episode 4 should've been combined. That would've led to the combined episode getting trimmed down to fewer final minutes totals. If you're asking for that, I'd request that a remediation compensation in the form of more episodes on the order of 12 to 16 episodes

[@anthonyufert8477]

If it’s really Anakin, I think he’s going to help her realize that he was going to turn whether she was there or not. Basically to help Ahsoka let go of the guilt and become something more with her abilities.

[@chrisschultze6974]

Brilliant theory. Totally agree!

[@anthonyufert8477]

@@chrisschultze6974 thank you. It makes sense especially when you think of all the things Ahsoka has done so far. She said she used other means to get info from Morgan which sounds like torture, during her fight with Marrok she used Anakin’s fighting style he used vs Dooku and she seemed to use a force choke and push vs Shin when she thought Sabine was killed. Ahsoka seems to be leaning dark and of course Anakin wouldn’t want that for her.

[@tcr7436]

Just have this Anakin enter her world and change everything in the past an future. Able to write new things.

[@acevaper]

My thought too, one thing I notice is that this is the exact Anakin that appeared with Yoda and Sir Alec Guiness

[@anthonyufert8477]

@@acevaper I thought Anakin resembled how he looked when Ahsoka last saw him alive and in person during the final arc of Clone Wars animated series.

[@chadherbert18]

I disagree with the relatability thing - I can relate only once I understand how something works, so I’ve always loved when they go into detail! 😊

[@andyb1653]

I think midichlorians are neat.

[@mikethehunter5212]

I look at it as, anyone can understand the basics of the Force, as seen by Sabine or Chirrut Imwe, but only a select few can see the finer details at play as is with any Force user. Even fewer however, can influence those finer details. The last part only being to a point, otherwise the universe will go into chaos.

[@andyb1653]

@@mikethehunter5212 I see it as a bit like being a musician. Some have a natural ear for it, while others seem tone-deaf at first. With enough exposure, experience and training, anyone can learn to play simple songs on whatever instrument, but the person needs to at least be interested in the first place. It takes true talent to become John Williams, Hans Zimmer, Iron Maiden or Metallica, but just about anyone can at least hum along to their favorite song if they try.

[@moe504]

Think about it like this. If you were a child watching star wars would you be more excited if the force was in everyone or if only certain people were selected to use the force? I'm sure all of us here were going around like Sabine trying to move cups as a kid.

[@mikethehunter5212]

@@andyb1653 Makes sense. Music is a universal language and has connections to math which essentially connects it to universe. If musicians are Jedi, call me Sabine 😄

[@bomafett]

Ahsoka lost a master to the dark side. Wouldn't it devastate her to also lose an apprentice to the dark side? This could be a Shakespearean tragedy.

[@carlosandres7006]

Filoni stories tend to be eventually hopeful

[@Joeshcast]

“It’s kinda like poetry, you know? It rhymes.”

[@AnnaBSexton]

What is Sabine has a plan? Yes she is impulsive, but Baylan read her mind... but she is an opportunist as she is a Mando

[@Nocc2991]

I don't see it going that way. She would have to be able to access the force first. Otherwise, she's just a bad girl.

[@tremendoushustle9548]

I don’t think Sabine’s connection to use the force is strong enough to use the Dark Side. Her devotion is towards Ezra, the only person that really understands her and views her as family. I think she would do anything to save Ezra but the moment she has Ezra back, she’ll do what is right with his help.

[@ceredwynf.8764]

I have a different view of attachments. It was Luke's attachment to his father that he was able too overcome and turn him back to the light. It was Kanan's attachment to Hera and his friends that he was able to sacrifice to save them. The same with Ezra. And Grogu's attachment to Din Jarin helped him to overcome and save him. 😊

[@jillg9108]

I think that Anakan maybe needed too much via attachments. I agree with you that the lack of attachment was a deficit of the Jedi. If Shmi had been freed and Anakin had grown up with her, then he would have been emotionally healthy.

[@DarkLordLinkOfficial]

I think it’s more when selfish attachments that become obsession is what leads to the dark side, not just any attachment

[@jolenethiessen357]

​@@DarkLordLinkOfficialI agree. Anakin's issue wasn't attachment as much as it was obsession. He was a controlling, obsessive partner.

[@davidbrandt848]

@@DarkLordLinkOfficial Exactly!! Anakin's attachment to mom and Padme became completely obsessive. Kanan's love for Hera and Luke's love for his father were selfless and self-sacrificing. Grogu, Ezra and now Sabine, on the other hand, have been a bit more of a mixed bag with some dark side and selfishness mixed in.

[@alexanderdumas-]

Sabine is def the Anakin here. She’s going to do horrible things to try to save Ezra’s life but unlike Anakin she will have Ashoka to pull her back from the brink.

[@Psyfi85]

Possibly, Shin reminds me of a younger Anakin in many ways too.

[@spacesolomagne4214]

Possible, even likely. I’ve got a different take. I think Shin doesn’t like working with Morgan, it’s part of the reason she gave her some sas saying you almost got her, her being Ahsoka. She certainly doesn’t respect Morgan. I think if Ezra is supposed to be the son, like Anakin is the father & Ahsoka the daughter. Then Ezra is going to be darkside when we find him working with Thrawn. When he sees Baylan with Sabine I think he gets pissed she’s a prisoner & kills Baylen. Shin try’s to kill Ezra but is stop and captured bc Sabine begs for mercy. Once Thrawn is back in our galaxy, Sabine helps Shin escape tells her to go tell Ahsoka what’s happened, but Sabine stays with Ezra. Shin, probably in the future, works with Ahsoka against Thrawn.

[@battlefrontnews4035]

“It’s like poetry”

[@wadewilson524]

I think you just nailed it.

[@shazbaggle8268]

God I hope she's not redeemed. She failed the basic hero test, i.e choosing one over many. Plus it would be a tradegy of sorts to also have Ahsoka's apprentice also fall to the dark side just as her master did.

[@V.L.R.]

What GOT ME, is how Ryan (and lots of people) being upset with Rosario’s portrayal of Ahsoka, expecting her to be rash & impulsive. When she was resurrected with the Spirit of The Sister, and she’s now an OVER 40 YEARS OLD Jedi, with the experiences to match.

[@murphybegood]

Sabine an artist being controller by her passions is a perfect fit

[@adrianreevers891]

Interesting that you talked about Yin and Yang in relation to Ashoka. Yin and Yang represent the light containing its own darkness, and the darkness containing its own light, and the two being in harmony with each other. Anakin would represent the dark, as even after he fell, Padmé’s last words were “I know there is still good in him”. We saw that good emerge when his son ventured into the dark to pull him back to the light. Ashoka, even while being the current embodiment of the light, is also harboring her own darkness. The fear of attachment to anything, her refusal to let anyone close because of it, is showing that inner darkness is alive and needs resolution if she is ever going to live up to the ideals of the light side. Maybe this apparition of Anakin is the darkness within her, speaking to her through the force, using the face of the root of her trauma.

[@shmegara]

I'm ok with concepts like the World Between Worlds, Mortis, etc because Lucas and Filoni see Star Wars as mythology, and mythology is both vague/mystical and can be super specific. Sometimes we encounter the force in loose, open, undefined connections, and sometimes it's a specific set of symbols and images. Also, my theory as to why the de-aging "looks terrible" is that we already know what Hayden looks like and he's not significantly different from what he looked like 20 years ago, so anything will just be in the uncanny valley -- as opposed to de-aging older actors, which has more room to show the difference in appearance.

[@Pyrowith2os]

I don’t know if Ahsoka could ever even turn to the dark side. With the daughter giving Ahsoka her life force, she’s basically the embodiment of the light side

[@morty0979]

With Marrok's helmet being blue in the intro and now knowing he's a ghost makes me think he was a good jedi made to do bad things.

[@crewchief5144]

Those colors mean nothing. This has been discussed to the wall.

[@crewchief5144]

@doctahwahwee2237 Oh, well then...continue with your speculation as it is VERY important.

[@tchendoh]

I love the World between Worlds and Force stuff. We hate medichlorians because it's a dumb concept. Not because it explains the Force.

[@qew6686]

From a certain point of view the midiclorians portray how the Jedi had strayed from the Force. They used blood tests to find Jedi NOT THE WILL OF THE FORCE. As such most Jedi were just coreworld citizen (Obiwan included) or lived near a temple...The Force had become a tool... a means to an end in service of the Republic. midiclorians just flourish in the presence of the force......not supply it. Midichlorians

[@UncleSilverGaming]

The World Between Worlds isn't like force heaven. It's a Nexus point between all time and space, but also a Nexus point between the living and the cosmic Force. Balanced Force users can be taught to retain their consciousness after leaving the living Force, manifesting as "ghosts". I think for more powerful users like Bendu, they can probably even be reborn into it. As for his appearance, Anakin probably appeared as his Clone Wars self because that's what Ahsoka would recognize. I just hope that in talking with her, she learns to forgive herself and open up more, putting an end to her overwhelming stoicism.

[@acbennett7]

THIS! Same!

[@mikethehunter5212]

Reincarnation has never really been a thing in SW, has it? I would like to see that more tbh. Maybe Anakin was reborn as Ben Solo and that's why Palpatine was able to manipulate him so easily.

[@fmaries7000]

🎯🎯🎯👏

[@Chief_360]

I have seen clips and pics of Hayden Christian going into combat mode. Whatever happens in tomorrow’s episode, Ashoka is about to confront her worse fear.

[@twaindriver]

Would love to see a nice edit of all these episodes condensed into a long film.

[@DarthTauri]

So glad I found this channel right before Ahsoka dropped. Great deep dives and love your take!❤

[@XPickle_RiiickX]

Go back and watch some previous videos, him and his team are just LOADED with Star Wars knowledge, I like to watch these in between viewing the episode, it's fun to rewatch and look out specifically for things I didn't notice the first time

[@joshuamoore8244]

7:16 World Between Worlds doesn’t over complicate or over explain the Force. It deepens the mystery. It’s not like it transforms the Force into a system hard magic system. It’s just peering into a different aspect of the mystery.

[@botta88]

Agreed

[@sheevpalpatine6466]

yeah, but this guy keeps complaining about it every chance he gets

[@jeffjolley6684]

RYAN: I'm not sure why ALL of the KZbinrs missed this: The temple/map/whatever on Seatos IS A PORTAL to the world between worlds. It's marked with a ring of purrgil instead of a ring of wolves. You can see it episodes 2 & 4 when the map is being projected. Ahsoka doesn't fall directly through the ring of purrgil, but it does mean a door exists there.

[@IamMarian]

not all, few mentioned this

[@fmaries7000]

🎯🎯🎯👏

[@TheJediForcePodcast]

Wow, these daily reviews are spoiling me. Keep 'em coming! Great addtions to the actual show!

[@justinskywalker]

Would be interesting to find out that Ezra "died" essentially the moment he used the Purgill to send him and Thrawn into parts unknown, but Ahsoka pulls him into the WBW at that exact moment, mirroring how he saved her years prior. The great irony is that Sabine has kept up hope all this time that Ezra is alive when he both died in the jump, but also was saved and pulled out of time by Ahsoka at that moment and never actually left.

[@shang-hsienyang1284]

This would be very interesting

[@Buecx]

Only problem is that Ezra would be a kid still and Sabine is grown and I think there setting up a relationship between them so I don’t know how that would work

[@bomafett]

But remember it was attachment that lead Luke to seek out Vader, and ultimately lead Vader/Anakin to return to the light side. Attachment is not the weakness or necessarily the path to the dark side that Yoda and the Jedi always said it is. Fear doesn't have to lead to anger and anger doesn't have to lead to hate. Fear can lead to caution. Anger can lead to seeking justice. It is better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.

[@mikethehunter5212]

Fans are constantly in conflict with how they want stories to be told. They say they want Lucas's story to be respected in one breath, but then say they liked Legends (which was never supported by Lucas) in another. Just see it all as one story and pick and choose which is your own "canon" is how I see it.

[@keithr7399]

Ashoka is the epitome of exceptional character development - so comforting to companions, yet feared by foes

[@andyb1653]

I'll be honest, if you'd asked me back when Clone Wars was airing "Which character from this show will become a major pillar of the franchise going forward", Ahsoka would've been fairly low on the list. Not at the very bottom, but there'd have been quite a few folks in line ahead of her. But yeah, the torch fits her hand like a glove it turns out. Three cheers for Dave!

[@crewchief5144]

@@andyb1653 Concur. I hated her. She was made me stop watching and just write it off as having turned into a kids' show and then I didn't even give Rebels a chance. Low and behold, after watching it all again later, she's had a great arc and season 7...oh, heartache. As for THIS show, Filoni is still writing her dialogue. She's still snarky, quick-witted and a major force user...she's just mature.

[@jacksullivan370]

if your theory about Skywalker coming during the clone war to the world between worlds he might've seen himself become Vader so he had no choice to do it. Also maybe he turns when Asoka comes back because he thinks she'l stop him because "she knows" so when he saw her it reminded him of what he saw so he did it.

[@animefreak0084]

11:27 So at first I thought their duel was weird cause she was going one handed but then I noticed how he hit with such force and weight, dual wielding wouldn’t work against him. 12:02 Thank you! At New Rockstars they thought it was purposely weird looking because it was The Brother pretending to be Anakin or something. But no the need to de-age just like they did for the Obi-Wan series or it would of been weird that his age didn’t match his when he dead. You don’t keep aging after you die lol

[@ScreenCrush]

What did you think of the episode?

[@yenthelvangysegem6346]

Loved it Just like your video's

[@DarthTauri]

Great episode! Loved the ending.

[@JRCRONHEIM]

I don't think this is Anakin. It's something with the expression on his face. Feeling like it's a deception. Then again, maybe I'm just reading too much into how weird the de-aging effect looks. This could all be in her mind. This episode was better than 3 but I cant shake the feeling that this series came out of the gate swinging and has been on a downward slope since the initial episodes. It is now feeling very sci-fi like where the first episode felt more fantasy which I fell absolutely in love with. But overall I really enjoy it

[@DenizenoftheAges]

Ahsoka is definitely not dead.

[@garrettwilmoth8531]

I can't lie I wish anakin said "hey snips" instead of "hello snips". its a dumb critique but I just imagine that hey being more fitting. also love to see anakin. The powerful figure that anakin becomes we only see in one episode and halfway through he turns to the sith. I want more anakin scenes to match what we know as darth vader

[@Ast3rixMusic]

Ashoka has been amazing!!! I don't like the run times and it feels like they should take the story into consideration over run time. It makes the show really weird at times when there are things that they are trying to get to, but because they run the clock it leaves the story feeling empty. The fight scenes in the volume are not bad. I still think this tech is amazing for being able to quickly setup things and have that level of detail that we are seeing in this series. Honestly things are looking movie quality with the work they are doing in the volume.

[@itsDareTV]

For some reason the start wars guys seem to be able to use it super well but when marvel do everything just looks flat and fake

[@oiBliz]

The crossguard stance Baylan rocks really makes me want to play Jedi Survivor again hey

[@R0bbathehutt]

I just realized they can use the World Between Worlds as a way to explain how Rey & Kylo seemingly were teleporting objects across the galaxy to one another in ep 8 & 9. They can just say they both were unknowingly accessing the world between worlds and passing these items thu the appropriate portal.

[@kfalco]

The ReyLo connection was explained already in episode 9. It was because of Palpetine creating that bridge.

[@mikethehunter5212]

@@kfalco That was Snoke who said it. Palpatine was surprised by how strong their connection was and used it to regenerate his energy.

[@indoorplant2392]

@@kfalcojust calling it a Force Dyad is not enough explanation tho lmaoo

[@shepiro-zc3bm]

Good one thats why the Powerful Force Users always see the future... Maybe they tap into those doorways and can watch them playout but never change the situation.

[@Full_Blown_Eric]

And possibly re-write that future, too. Cause that last trilogy was poorly written.

[@Brady1776]

Ashoka is so good can’t wait until episode 5 for Thrawn to show up

[@dev1n]

Baylan is such a good character

[@FrankPadrone]

Why is no one talking about shin hati reacting to marrok death. Seemed like she knew him or had feelings to him.

[@WolffangLightwood]

Personally I really like the world between worlds, it adds another layer of mystacism to the force

[@edminister]

I feel like the world between worlds is a visual representation of something a lot less specific, it can be some specific place to any person but it is as perceived by them. This is simply a representation for the viewer so we aren't staring at a black screen with voices going back and forth. Time travel is not possible per se with the WBW so Ahsoka will have to return to where she left off. It will not be a shortcut to get to Sabine, otherwise why would she have the map coordinates burned into her hand as seen in her last moments fighting Baylon.

[@duphrene4672]

Exactly.... I wish more Star Wars "fans " understood this.

[@TheTenthDoctorandHisTardis]

My outlandish theory is that because Ashoka contains the immortal spirit of The Mortis Daughter, she is immortal herself. She has technically died twice and been brought back. I don’t think she can die but unless she wills herself into the Living Force like Luke did. Before anyone says I’m crazy…I know. I know! Lol.

[@mikethehunter5212]

She has to die in some sense of the word at some point because Rey hears her voice among the other passed Jedi.

[@ked49]

@@mikethehunter5212or Rey was connecting to the world between. And it was an echo

[@joshuacollins9316]

@@mikethehunter5212I think it was already confirmed that she wasn’t dead in that and was just speaking through the force.

[@jasonvoorhees310]

Man screen crush has been killing it of late. Better than NR, RR, and HS. Seriously. Lol. Ya'll are all great.

[@skankhuntdave7232]

I wonder if Ezra will be happy with sabines decision. Also, who will we see first Thrawn or Ezra??

[@nailinthefashion]

Thrawn gets chased at the end of the episode after our reunited gang hunts him down would be my preferred arc cuz then we could see Ezra ask the purggil for a ride again in live action

[@jopastforgot]

I feel like he could be almost conflicted

[@slack__]

both of them, side by side.. muhaha

[@lothianedwards7816]

I can see them having to work together to survive

[@IsiahBradley]

THANKS for this, Doug and Ryan!!!

[@WilliamJames48]

Seriously Great Stuff Ryan! I’m loving the enthusiasm all around

[@MoistVonLipwig]

D'you think Jacen might have something to do with Hera hitching a lift from the Purgill?

[@TrueOmadTLG]

So I have a theory, what if ahsoka pulls Ezra into the world between as a parallel rebels but then Sabine gets to the other galaxy and Ezra is not there because he's with ahsoka and then she thinks he's dead pushing her further to the dark side...

[@rampage2587]

Marrok being a nightsister wraith or whatever is much more interesting to me than all the fan theories. And Sabine giving up the map gives her opportunity for a very interesting long term character arc, unless they wipe it all away in the next episode.

[@nathandts3401]

Online Star Wars fans are pretty dumb and want everyone to be someone they already know or be related to someone they know. It's weird.

[@rampage2587]

@@nathandts3401i liked Andor. It was all new. Gritty relatable ground level characters.

[@pwnagraphic690]

What’s next? Episode 5 I would assume

[@GGBlaster]

No it’s episode 9

[@luisyruegas]

Was there more to the Shin reaction to Marrok's death? Was it someone she knew before?

[@gr8tbigtreehugger]

Many thanks for this insightful panel discussion!

[@danielkimoto1008]

The force should be what Lucas wanted it to be: midichlorians and mortis beings included

[@ciaranb32]

What if Anakin entered the World Between Worlds during the Mortiss arc? Loads of plotholes and very Inside Baseball but....

[@justvincenturb]

Ryan not wanting Star Wars to explain things too much because then there'd be no need for Endings Explained and theories 😂

[@HACKTACULAR.]

Man I really wanna see more scenes of Ashoka and Luke! I feel like they have so much to talk about..

[@SwaggerLikeUz]

The World Between Worlds is how were going to finally see (live action) TCW Flashbacks with Anakin wearing His armot & padawan Aksoka. Thank U Dave! @Ryan

[@bomafett]

Ahsoka went to one saber in order to have her other hand free to grab the map orb.

[@colonelsanders1617]

I think there’s a difference in being vague for the interest and being vague because of lazy writing. I think that the ones writing the story need to know how it works for it to be coherent and not contradict. That’s why I wish Lucas was still there because he knows how it’s all supposed to work.

[@TheCloveart]

I like knowing more about the force. It’s interesting and it gives the creators more reason to use more Jedi characters.

[@Panteradz1]

Ryan, estuvo muy bien este segmento. Let’s see if you understood that. Lol.

[@alecjoncas7764]

I said the same exact thing. I’m glad marrock was and undead character made by Morgan. It would be super random to have some other person from another show/book/game be him. But having him be something Morgan created makes more sense and is cool

[@m.henryboettcher7176]

I could see Jacen being able to guide her with the force. Jedi dad and ace pilot mom.... it would make sense he be able to follow hyperspace lanes.

[@GiveZeeAChance]

If Anakin pulled her in, the line "I didn't think I'd see you here so soon" feels off to me

[@BallisticTech]

Shin didnt grab her throat when Ahsoka force levitated her. In my mind it was more like she was frozen and freaked out that she couldnt control herself. I recall Dave pretty explicitly saying the WBW isnt about teleportation or time travel. In one of the Rebels DVD BTS. Its about knowledge. And different ppl will experience different things. Different voices. Different portals. Different visuals in the portal. Now his opinion could change. But every time we saw Rebels characters at a Jedi portal it about lessons. A lot ofthe time it seemed like the lesson was supposed to be just for the student (Ezra). But the cool thing about Rebels was that the Master (Kanan and Ahsoka) had visions that they learned from as well. They werent picture perfect prototypical Jedi masters without faults. They had to learn lessons to help them. I think thats whats being set up hear. In order for Ahsoka to be a good master for Sabine. And a big part of Ahsoka's issues that she needs to overcome are in regards to her master. Huyang referenced the unusual of that whole line of Jedi lineage. Dave said the WBW isnt about moving in time and space. Its a place where all of it happens at once and ppl can gain knowledge. She needs to learn something from Anakin. And get over that trauma. The. Sheel go back to where she came so she doesnt disrupt the flow of time. Her, Hera Huyang and co will reach the other Galaxy with the Purgil together.

[@BallisticTech]

Whelp. I think I should start a YT channel. Jk lol

[@DenizenoftheAges]

I feel The Force has become synonymous with The Speedforce and The Morphing Grid.

[@mortisnoctu]

Babbel is an amazing name for a language learning program. It’s a double entendre, referencing how you’ll be able to babble in multiple languages, but also to the Tower of Babel where language split into hundreds of variations.

[@animefreak0084]

21:57 in the legends book Darth Bane a Path of Destruction it was explained that exotic style like dual blades, lightwhips, and wielding dual lightsabers used more for intimidation and some practical uses, but are less efficient since a single hand can be overwhelmed by two hands. If she was serious about the fight, she would have had to go to a single saber to match his brute strength.

[@carlosandres7006]

The more i know of the force the more interested I’m about it. Appreciation deepens. WBW made me realize how vast and powerful it is. It really is “unlimited power”. P. S: if Ani would have find a way to WBW back then, he’ll use it to save Padme.

[@AsherGrace7]

A lot of people hating the lightsaber fights in Ahsoka because "they're not as good as the ones in the prequels" and "too slow" is funny to me, because I'm old enough to remember when those prequel fights were considered "over choreographed" with a lot of "unnecessary movements" and "fake swings". Nothing changes lol. It's like a poem, it rhymes indeed.

[@rampapandiontinling]

I think he is the real Anakin, just like she is the real Ahsoka. They just both have entered through portals. Once inside, they are outside time. She could train for years in there with him, then go out the same portal she came in and be back at the same time to meet Hera and head off to Peridia. Pretty sure she cannot travel to Peridia through WBW. I think it is limited to entering and exiting through the same portal, so you don't mess things up. So when Ezra pulled her through, she resumed by going out the same portal.

[@AceTrainerLiam]

I’m surprised so many people think Marrek was killed. Often in media, when someone being controlled or possessed by magic is released from that, they pause, fall to the ground and fall unconscious. I’m fairly sure when Shin smoke-bombed to escape Sabine, she didn’t have time to drag Marrek away, so chances are he could still be ANYONE, just under the control of Night Sister magick, with maybe his suit keeping the magick “contained”. All we know for sure is that Ahsoka released the “seal” on their suit. Until the next episode we still have no idea who Marrek is. My theory is that in the next episode, Huyang, calling out for Sabine and Ahsoka, will come across Marrek, just as he’s regaining consciousness, and his mask won’t come off for the big reveal until AFTER Sabine turns.

[@AdamSpiers]

It's Marrok not Marrek, confirmed in the subtitles just before he speaks in a previous episode.

[@theorycraftingmachine2876]

The World Between Worlds is most likely the afterlife, and not time travel, also the next episode of Ahsoka will probably tie into Star Wars Episode IX The Rise of Skywalker, when Rey is on Exegol and hears the voices of Anakin Skywalker & Ahsoka, so that might mean there will also be a Luke Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi & Kanan Jarrus cameo!

[@dennisd4452]

From the animation show. I believe that the point of where you enter the world between worlds is where you have to exit. I think they are going to use her burnt hand to get somewhere close to Thrawn.

[@Mizzle420420]

The burnt hand thing is actually pretty cool. Reminds me of Indiana Jones

[@Tbanksdrummer]

I’m gonna piggy back off of Don’s theory. 1-I think Ahsoka is alive 2- I think Anakin pulled Ahsoka into the world between worlds. I believe Anakin is alive. The world between worlds seems to be between space and time. I think that at some point after Ahsoka was kicked out of the Jedi, Anakin did some sort of meditating during his struggle of being a mentor to Ahsoka. Anakin saw this moment in Ahsoka’s life where he could help. I understand there’s a lot of holes in my theory but I’m gonna say its because there’s still some mystery to the story ;) Love the podcast, look forward to it every week! :)

[@5crownsoutreach]

Some great theories, but youre missing a massive story ark: Baylon already confessed he didnt want to kill Ahsoka, AND HE DIDNT! Its possible he knew where the gate was and drove her there. He mentioned the "destruction" of Anakin cause he was wise enough to give her a balanced prep before she meets him in the WbW for the next stage, "to secure the future," which we aren't given the details of yet. Baylon also expressed his unease with 'witchcraft' so what we see him doing is setting up the salvation from the coming war which he knows Thrawn and Morgan want.

[@therestingrancor8259]

I don't like fan theories. Like some speculating that Maul will be back. He had the perfect ending with Obi Wan. Bringing him back would just devalue that moving scene. I'd rather just watch the show, and see where it takes me.✌️

[@galogiha]

sabine giving back the map completely undermines ezra's sacrifice. the whole point of him disappearing was to screw thrawn. now little miss selfish is helping thrawn come back, with no guarantees ezra is still around. the rise of the first order (and the entire sequel trilogy bs) is sabine's fault. 🤬🤬🤬

[@jarmelbarnett6922]

In the World Between Worlds Anakin is the real embodiment of himself. He will tell Ashoka that she was not responsible for his fall to the dark side. Ashoka is alive as she can’t die by ordinary means. She is the embodiment of the light having the spirit of the daughter within her. She was dazed by the power of the orb and was on her way to the World Between Worlds when she was knocked of the cliff. The daughter was killed by a special sword. Once she overcomes feeling responsible for Anakin turning to the dark side, she will become complete. When she returns, she will be able to address Sabine’s needs and help her become a Jedi/Mandalorian and thus a more complete warrior and more compassionate person. She,Ashoka, will also be even more powerful.

[@TheCloveart]

30:55 I don’t think she got pulled in. Because that means she got pulled in twice. Once by Ezra and once by Anakin. That’s kind of lazy. I think she died or there may be a portal by the cliff.

[@MatthewODuncan]

Star Wars is not Sci-fi, and it is not Fantasy. It is a Space Opera. Now, why is that an important distinction? Because fans love that it exists in a grey area between those two genres. Spaceships, laser guns, and robots fall into the realm of Sci-fi, but in a space opera, the technology is not given real detail, just made-up details to make it sound sci-fi. Lightsabers, the force, and the fact that everyone can understand a million languages, including R2's beeps, make it more like fantasy. I agree with you that keeping the details vague is better for the storytelling. But remember, it's the details that are unique to the show that the fans love when they are called back in later versions of the franchise. So expanding on what the force is, hyperspace, and even time travel can work in the future of the franchise. The risk is when they let too many storytellers add to canon. When Mr. Lucas owned Star Wars, he had to sign off on any story, from films to novels. Now that Disney owns it, they are letting too many people add to the world and inconsistencies are cropping up because they are not communicating and there is not one decision maker to decide what is and what is not canon.

[@surfntrucks]

KZbinrs need to be ok with being wrong. Fan theories are part of the fun and the fact that it was Night Sister Magic was even better than the Star Killer and Ezra theories. Now we have more questions. Who was Morrock before he died and Morgan brought him back? I want more fan theories every week please. So excited for Star Wars right now.

[@sithra74]

My gosh! Your cat looks just like my kitty Oreo! I literally screamed out, "Holy sh!t, That's Oreo!" I watch a lot of your videos, and other than the one the other day where the kitty was wearing a costume, I had never seen her. What's her name and please put her in more videos.

[@bryanthoyte9156]

I'm baffled .this is the only reactor vid series I've seen that states "mitochlorians" is a "bad thing" I actually love that the count shows natural talent or adherence 2 the force as opposed to people with low count- I even like small possibility of star wars version of mitochondria which is only found n women of color naturally.anyone can use the force is george lucas intention but stuff like rey just naturally powerful & trained w/o training is most "definitely" not what Lucas intended

[@juliecarter2439]

My take: This is Anakin after she left but before he fights Obi Wan at Mustafar. Ahsoka has lost her way because she blames herself for Anakin's fall. But shes going to see that it wasnt her and he would have fallen anyways, maybe killed her in the process. Sonetimes you cannot save the people you love. You can only leave. Shes going to understand this finally and it will allow her to leave the WBW with renewed balance etc and ready to truly reach Sabine, someone who can still be saved

[@FCEEVIPER]

The world between worlds is a horrible idea/concept, I hated it in Rebels and hate it now. Worst idea Dave Filoni has ever come up with. It's as bad as "Your mom joke" in the last Jedi and somehow the emperor returned in the rise of skywalker 😂

[@christopherperez9666]

Awesome series so far, but WBW complicates the force way too much. Really dislike if they keep drawing from this. When first hearing about in the animated series i was praying that they left it there. Some what disappointing they followed up on it.

[@ryanscanlon2151]

20:00 disagree with you on Ahsoka getting to the new galaxy or bring Ezra through to her, don't forget the world between worlds isn't meant to be used as doorways to go from place to place. It's meant for knowledge not for transportation or time travel. She and Hera will connect with the Pergil and have them bring them to the other galaxy since the Pergil already know where to go.

[@williamlumia2818]

What if after Ezra pulled Ashoka in the WBW Vader went on a binge of trying to access that world and has been “waiting” for her to come back in but only his light side “Anaskin” could get in

[@lucasmclean5940]

What if molecule man remade the infinity stones ? He originally appeared inthe fantastic four and seeing as the fantastic four is Coming to the mcu perhaps that opens the door for molecule man? Molecule man can basically control any molecules. And thanos reduced the infinity stones to atoms. So could molecule man theoretically remake the infinity stones?

[@jaschoudhury18]

When Luke and Yoda in ESB look into the future to "see" Lukes friends in pain could they be accessing the World between Worlds in someway?

[@bomafett]

Ryan - The Mortis Arc from Clone Wars can still be a force/fever dream, even with the mural in Rebels. The mural could have been created by others who have had similar force/fever dreams. The Father/Son/Daughter Holy Trinity are the stuff of myths and legends, which doesn't mean they are or were ever necessarily real, physical incarnations of the force.

[@murphybegood]

I'm with Coultan, I don't get the negativity. I guess history is repeating itself and it's just popular to hate on Start Wars again.

[@dutchuniverse]

You guys missed that Filoni said that the WBW can’t be used to enter in one place and come out the other so going to the other galaxy from there would be contradictory. It’s more likely that Ahsoka will pull Ezra out of a situation like he did for her or she would respawn/wake up where she “died”, connect with the Purgill like Ezra did and meet up with Hera to jump with them to the other galaxy

[@TheRealCeeJai]

I'm really loving the constant references back and forth and in-good-fun teasing between Heavy Spoilers and SC.😊

[@wrist-snap3444]

I have no problem with midi-chlorians or the trinity or the world between worlds. It all works together perfectly

[@redroredriguez]

Anyone else realised that the World Between Worlds Portal that was in the Jedi Temple on Lothal is still on the Chimera?

[@lucasmoreno5330]

When Palpatine told Anakin there was a way to bring dead people back, he was referring to the World between worlds.

[@animefreak0084]

23:02 Ahsoka set it in rebels and she’s mentioned it plenty of times in this series, “She Is No Jedi.” She truly is a GREY Jedi.

[@ked49]

No

[@Javier_Jimenez71]

Expectations always ruin our experiences. Enjoy the show as it is, not what you want it or expect it to be.

[@williamlumia2818]

Shin Hatis reaction to Muroks death seems to point to something deeper she didn’t know night sister magic but seemed more attached to him and his death

[@tiny6734]

I love Star Wars and marvel but why is Star Wars episodes are better than marvel?

[@chaosparticle4515]

I think Hera and them are gonna land the ghost onto a purrgil and its gonna take them to thrawn/ezra

[@iBlueHood]

Could they use Ahsoka being in the world between worlds to explain how Rey heard her voice ? Maybe Ahsoka sees a portal to that scene and speaks to her through it. That would explain Rey hearing her voice and leave Ahsoka alive.

[@alexgavieres8293]

That "weight" in Baylan's lightsaber and the way he swung it around really sold it for me. They did a great job showing how Ahsoka was just simply overpowered by it. And of course, she eventually lost trying her best to defend the full might when she pissed off Baylan by taking out his padawan....who is probably his daughter.

[@cassieo]

Yes, agree. I think the unanswered questions of Baylan’s backstory is going to be told to Sabine during the jump time to Peridea. Which will make the tragic loss of Ray Stevenson even more painful for us. 😭

[@coolo73]

I rewatched all the episodes back-to-back and I think Ahsoka is much better if you just take it on face value. Once I put the years of theory and animated shows out of my mind and looked at the show almost as a reboot, it was more enjoyable and near perfect Star Wars in the same vein as A New Hope. The original trilogy was great because it just dropped you in the middle of the world, there was no homework or someone to explain it to you. I think the constant fan theories, speculation, critique, and easter egg hunting can hurt the enjoyment of a show like this.

[@Mandozen]

I agree.

[@gailthecrafter]

I loved Marrok was a witch ghost thing. When I saw the green smoke I laughed out loud.

[@cat5force]

Here’s what I wish is happening. The moment anakin turned to the dark side there was split. Because of his absurdly strong force connection, the light side of him was thrust into the world between worlds while his dark side version remained in the real world. This is how he was able to commit all the atrocities he does. Light side anakin pulls in ahsoka into the world between worlds. They go on to figure out a way to get to the galaxy where thrawn is and a real flesh and blood anakin joins ahsoka to take down thrawn. Once triumphant anakin returns back to the world between worlds and is reunited with dark side anakin sometime during the time of return of the Jedi. Which is how he is able to turn back to the light and help Luke defeat the emperor. Not gonna happen but I think it would be cool.

[@cat5force]

This would also provide ahsoka peace and redemption knowing she helped anakin