Aid to Ukraine and the Future of the War with Michael Kofman

Please join the Europe, Russia, and Eurasia Program for a conversation about the status of further Western military and financial aid to Ukraine, and the impact a lack of additional assistance would have on the battlefield.
Max Bergmann will moderate a discussion featuring Maria Snegovaya, Michael Kimmage, and Michael Kofman of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
This event is online-only, and will take place from 1:00 - 2:00 pm EST on Wednesday, December 20, 2023.
This event was made possible by the generous support of the Carnegie Corporation of New York.
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[@RobertoEarnywho]

listen to many of these folks on podcasts, good discussion of the realities of the conflict,. not all rosy but not hopeless either!

[@JVladan]

Kofman is so much more intelligent and nuanced thinker than the rest of the panel. They manage to present the Russia as weak and strong in the same sentence, without noticing and bothering to explain.

[@conflict_monitor]

They're ideologues

[@DeadCat-42]

There is a battle going on in the GOP, if Trump wins I expect the USA will leave NATO and ally with Russia as Trump follows Putins political Aspirations. You can hear the echos of Russian state TV in their Debates. The Hold up on the budget was initiated by Putin supporting Republicans to delay aid to Ukraine. Putin is very much admired by a large portion of Trump Supporters.

[@ycplum7062]

To be fair, Russia has weaknesses and strengths with much of it relative, not absolute. It is a spectrum and depending on the area/issue, Russia is on different points on the spectrum.

[@bigolboomerbelly4348]

​@@DeadCat-42I worked on the Trump campaign in 16 and volunteered in 20. You have no idea. Slava Azov!

[@davidnikon8501]

Make love not war.

[@radebatinica5545]

It’s lovely to seeing the superior West panicking.

[@loosha1854]

Keep up the great work. I Always enjoy the Content.

[@AbcDino843]

The problem is that money doesn't simply translate into shells and equipment. The other issue is that a lot of conclusions are predicated on those casualty numbers, and they are extremely dubious.

[@mysteryman6918]

Yup. Lots of claims that Krynky is somehow attriting Russian manpower more than Ukrainian, which is ridiculous. Even in places where Russia is on the offense like Kupyansk and Avdiivka, it’s not clear how much greater their casualties are vs. Ukraine’s, which are hardly ever given numbers.

[@Mulinby]

Как забавно смотреть насколько вы сами себя убеждаете в той чуши, которую транслируете)) Продолжайте в том же духе. Чем меньше вы нас понимаете и чем хуже компетенции ваших аналитиков, тем нам проще вас обыграть.

[@GeistInTheMachine]

Amen. Trust me, some of your best allies are these so-called "think tanks" along with the Western, especially American media. Here we have fools leading fools.

[@coffincornered83]

Совершенно верно.

[@WanderingSword]

Vietnam used to deal with these colonists. We stand with Russia all the way

[@bad_writer]

что именно они не понимают?

[@lithuex4022]

Lol

[@NEONNOONE]

Great to see Snegovaya speaking - and making great points

[@donaldflett1504]

I'm a 75 year old American living in Kherson through out the war and I try to follow things closely. Michael Kofman of course is great. The other panelists are very good also. I greatly appreciate the realistic evaluation. One thing I see here in Kherson is an even deeper and stronger resolve to fight on. Of course we all here realize that American has REALLY dropped the ball over the last year and it's VERY embarrassing for me. I'm continually communicating with my elected representatives to do more for Ukraine. Again, great discussion.

[@xtc2v]

It was all so easy back when your Azov militia was shelling civilians in east Ukraine? Why didn't you just offer a referendum with western observers? The land was Russian soil until, in historical terms, only yesterday

[@edvsilas8281]

@donaldflett1504 What in God's name are you doing in Kherson? If you have a death wish,by all means stay there. The only legitimate reason to be there is as a soldier of fortune (merc) or a NATO paid miltary advisor or operator . Any other reason ,unless you are married to local or are Ukrianian , is insanity or naivity.

[@Soldado_18]

Herson is half or majority russians.

[@user-ww1ip1uz5d]

I am Ukrainian. American, what are you doing in my Ukraine? Do you support Zelinsky's anti-people regime? Where Americans appear, wars begin.

[@nicke0b]

@@Soldado_18 All Ukraine is full of "russians" that fight for Ukraine against Putin.

[@rodrigoescalante5456]

I have seen several Western reports and it seems as their hope bears on the Russian eggs price ...

[@guyfranks6721]

Excellent discussion thank you

[@AntPictures]

Great discussion! Thank you! Althoug to claim that Ukrainian forses had an advantage in artillery 2 to 1 vs Russia at any point of time is to be delusional or willigly lying. Take your pick. Other than that many good points were raised through this discussion.

[@conflict_monitor]

The longer it lasts, the larger the disparity will become.

[@joeuscanga7235]

Great Podcast...🏆

[@ericsouidaray9548]

Quite the interesting discussion regarding the war with the moderate analysis being unique and reasonable.

[@fyhgb9325]

yes

[@tranminhtam-lyceeyersin7121]

ARMCHAIR STRATEGISTS WHO DON'T KNOW HOW REAL WAR CAN BE VERY MESSY AND NOT EASILY MODELED

[@LibertarianLibrarian1776]

Instead of angrily smacking nonsense into your keyboard why don’t you actually take their points and refute them with facts and statistics.

[@steveysimmons13579]

You took the bait. Please say it wasn't the all caps that got you.@@LibertarianLibrarian1776

[@jamesmoriarty-me2jb]

its a bot, dont bother@@LibertarianLibrarian1776

[@barrylane1055]

Outstanding group. Thank you so much CSIS. Really the best!!! However, it was also profoundly depressing. Time is running out for Ukraine while western leaders fail to prepare their populations for the seriousness of this struggle.

[@DavidWaldren-cj4ry]

L

[@donfleming3534]

excellent analysis...! Anything can happen....but don't hold me to it.

[@user-nc1lb6vl9y]

Very good presenters.

[@nvonliph]

Russia isn't interested in talking about just anything. They're interested in talking about making uncle Sam's pet project surrender, and Uncle Sam needs to get the eff off their lawn.

[@Neckbeard-lt8mi]

The kind of discussions ‘experts’ have after it becomes obvious their opinions were wrong all along.

[@caseyleedom6771]

Super interesting conversation. This should be required watching for everyone in Congress ...

[@caseyleedom6771]

... and of course, also required watching for the American Electorate so they understand what's at stake ...

[@caseyleedom6771]

I do think that a bit more time should have been spent on the implications for World Politics in general. The obvious issue is China & Taiwan, but more generally "The Global South" movement ...

[@user-re3zl1uj2c]

How do these people get paid????? I thought in real democracy you don’t deliver you get fired.

[@mariondaniels2934]

Actually, BBC and Mediazona have been keeping track of Russian kia: about 40,000 so far, according to them.

[@stuartwray6175]

30 minutes in, and I'm exhausted by this insanity.

[@JohnJohnson-bh4di]

You guys finally woke up.

[@trqster]

Great insightful debate! Maria comes out the realistic one to balance out the "Michaels" optimism on the west's will to endure and outlast Putin...

[@socceramerica3777]

17 million people fled Ukraine and the Russian speakers in the Eastern region want to be with Russia. It is country 20 million vs a country of 150 million people.

[@Willsr14]

If Russias strength is more equipment, production and available manpower, Ukraine needs as many force multipliers as possible. The gamble to cut the land bridge at melitopol failed, so it has to find its advantages elsewhere. Nothing is going to give Ukraine as much of an advantage as being defensive now. Ukraine still controls key areas of Luhansk and Donetsk; Russia has to take those areas to achieve some of their war aims. Ukraine needs to dig in hard and focus on holding those areas for as long as possible. If they can push the defender's odds to where they can outlast Russia's current army, then it'll force a more difficult Political situation on Putin when he needs to increase production and mobilisation further. Russia can't claim any minor victories without these objectives, so they need to be made to pay dearly for them. I think (from my armchair, albeit) that's the best strategy for the long term war ahead of them. Many Western countries still need time to train the f-16 pilots and turn up their arms production. Once they're available for the war, Ukraine might have the chance to break the stalemate. There's still a lot of western equipment being retired from service, I think they'd become quick and easy stopgaps or supplements for Ukraine. A prime example of this is the 600 FV107 Scimitars the UK just retired. As far as I'm aware, they have no serious buyers; Ukraine, however, have expressed their need for more armoured reconnaissance capability AND fire support vehicles. Scimitars fill both these needs and are very easy to learn (first hand experience). Regarding their capability, they have less ground pressure than a foot soldier, meaning its perfect for when the weather gets groggy and for following assault units offroad. The majority of the front frontline is fields, forests, or villages. The terrain in all three become inhospitable to MBTs for at least half the year. That's perfect condition for a fast, light, autocannon-armed vehicle to operate. I wish I were privy to the discussions regarding Ukraine amongst generals and politicians, but I dearly wish for more support to be handed over. If the war is lost for Ukraine, it is also lost for the west. Can our 'paper' alliance take that blow? I am not 100% confident. Podcasts and analysts often remain minimalist in their conclusion of the war being lost - "Well, its not looking good for Ukraine", they'll say. The truth is subjugation, terrorism, genocide, and a threat to international peace. Hundreds of thousands of innocents will be forfeit of Ukraine loses. The reality of this needs to talked about more in depth from now on, listeners need to understand the stakes. It can't be reduced to a single gloom sentence.

[@Soldado_18]

Russian tactics is slow and grinding. Can Ukraine + NATO face this? Absolutely no.

[@WingkKong]

What are you talking about It is the American expansion to the east which create conflict with Russia Just like When Napoleon n Hitler expand to the east ,it created war ,, Russia will always stop any great power expand to the east

[@ashcom8952]

Good job… kgb is proud of you.. I hope your wages is increasing as well

[@riccardop9256]

When the negotiations topic comes up no one on the panel is asked about what is the perspective from the Ukrainian side. There is a decree from the president that forbids any negotiation with Rus. If Koffman himself states that the best 2024 outcome for Ukr is to be able to defend itself why to keep insisting on achieving total victory when it would be much more productive to start talking about what is ammissibile to concede in order to stop the war? What do we need before we get to this point... more hundred thousand deaths from both sides?

[@Hedningen1]

Why stop the moneytrain for United States military industrial complex?

[@user-kk9eh3po3b]

excelent discussion-- very good

[@Venrenos]

Interesting debate and analyses.

[@silboman]

CSIS is a us organisation endorsing us power and hegemoni troughout the world !

[@matscarlsson2522]

I think the political impact on NATO will be very dramatic, if US does not continue the support for Ukraine. The Afgan exit will look like a victory parade in comparisment. Nice upload, but missing this discussion.

[@grahamdubos]

Australia would rather bury their helicopters then donate them to Ukraine as an Australian i am so sorry we have let them down 😢

[@0981841254]

You must be an aborigini?

[@The0ldg0at]

"I follow the Dnipro down to Navodnitsky park Listening to the wind of change A December winter night, soldiers passing by Listening to the wind of change"

[@rickstewart2996]

After watching this for 20 minutes i just skipped through the rest of the video as it was starting to sound like western propaganda, i have saved the video to watch at a later date to see how good your assessments are. One question that i do have is where do you get your data from ie KIA and WIA?? as the only one that i have seen for Russian losses is MediaZona. And they state 40 k KIA Russians.

[@Humorless_Wokescold]

40k kia Russians isn't a credible number. The attritional rate at Bakhmut alone was around ~20k alone. And that's based on multiple overlapping pieces of evidence including *counting the graves Wagner dug for their dead.* Russia has, pretty god damn obviously, lost a lot more than 40k soldiers.

[@goddesssalem4842]

Thanks, you saved me the time

[@robertaurens5665]

It's one of these comedy shows created by a bunch of know-nothing muppets self-aggrandising about something of which they have absolutely no practical knowledge

[@romailto9299]

If we're to believe that russia regards NATO as an existential threat, then we should expect that russia will exploit any weakness to break NATO. A war in Eruope seems unimaginable now, but recall that after the collapse of the Russian empire in 1917 it took only 28 years before the soviet troops marched into Berlin and other European capitals. Do you think any analyst looking at Russia in 1917 1918 and on would have guessed that it would come to dominate half of Europe? He or she would have been laughed out of the room for suggesting that.

[@tort77777777777777]

Well, Russians entered Paris after the war with Napoleon, entered Berlin after the war with Hitler. I wish Washington DC to never know what a war is.

[@0981841254]

West arogance and ignorance is amasing but I agree in 1 thing with you if NATO= Hitler's Nazi Germany only in that case Russia will be in Berlin in 4 years in other case that will never happen.

[@sammenter1]

Excellent war analysis by Michael Kofman. Thank you. Sam from UK.

[@piuswanyaga8361]

Man with the spectacles is coping 😅😅😅😂😂

[@austinezeanyika2500]

Yes i just remember, nobody is taking about waves of the socalled crippling sanctions, what happened? Has it failed woefully?

[@bigolboomerbelly4348]

You don't know what a sanction is. It isn't a blockade genius. Putin runs out of reserves in 2025. Enjoy your breadlines.

[@nvonliph]

'transitional period' from still hoping beyond hope to realizing what sort of surrender will be required.

[@jordizee]

Very interesting conversation but i can't believe im the first one to comment. So i feel i should say something a bit different, so here goes. Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious, even though the sound of it is really quite atrocious. I feel better now.. thanks. Slava Ukraine.🇺🇦

[@kausim1069]

CSIS is so comedic think tank that no one have bothered to comment....i think comedies should remain in digital media , so i am the first...🤣🤗

[@JohnGrigg-gz9gm]

How is the weather in Russia? 😉

[@ThePettho]

It is sad to see how weak US support is over time, US can't even stand up for 24 months without falling apart politically. We close to Russia must realize that US can't be trusted apart from moral support. If US don't support with 4% of the defense budget cost (with a 90% return to US economy) to keep Ukraine alive who believes that US will risk a singel solder to defend NATO?

[@picklethepirate]

Ah, the sad desperation of warmongers swallowing defeat. Alternate title: "When Proxy Wars Go Wrong".

[@crevis12]

35:05.. “Ukraine could start to lose this war”.. did this guy not witness the failed spring offensive.. is Bradley square not a big enough sign of the state of the war.. enough coping already.. call for peace 💙🇨🇦

[@bigolboomerbelly4348]

Orcbot

[@roikaully]

America, please save our world

[@crewcutsloan9485]

Gosh! You guys are so erudite and beautiful! So, I guess Ukraine has nil manpower issues, eh? I think the panel diverged from reality some ways back... Oh well, what do I know? The grammar was great, tho.

[@JohnCSmith-lp1qr]

Looks like we Underestimate Russia ...Cheers

[@samsungtap4183]

Maria i think your assessments have been very good. The underestimating of the Russian Federation on every level has been the cornerstone of Nato policies and still it goes on ?

[@jelmervd2l]

It's easier to get votes when you pretend you don't have to spend on the military.

[@albertocontreras3312]

West must NOT loose this war . It has lost too much already .

[@Tubernameu123]

Tired of this war. We are $33,000,000,000,000 in debt. This Christmas mothers minorities & vets went withiut

[@Jakob_DK]

It is very interesting with the manpower and military industrial output. What is China’s role? Do they deliver in secret on purpose? Smuggling of chips is also to some extent allowed.

[@stockdale829]

Thanks for uploading. Always interesting to hear Michael Kofman

[@no-no-yes]

Why you didn't have that conversation before the war started to how to prevented

[@markhe6640]

What's the casualty rate for Ukraine（if we were to believe 300k for Russia）?

[@johnfenechdoe3148]

So far: estimated between 50.000-70.000

[@rodgerhempfing2921]

Classified. But they do hate the Russian invaders, that helps motivation.

[@Teney1994]

"2025 more positive for Ukraine" in comparison to 2024 or in comparison to now? Since the better side of "horrible" does not sound as good as a more positive prospect in comparison to the bad situation Ukraine's right now. I've read how the west plans to catch up to Russia in terms of production, but as I see it right now, end of 2025, they will still only produce half of what Russia+NK+China produces, with enormous prices. I also don't understand why nobody is talking of whether Ukraine will have enough manpower to produce drones in late 2025. The emigration, military losses and aging population are eroding ukrainian manpower. Their 28-30 million big nation will loose one to three million more to emigration + war (especially since shell hunger etc will cause more losses). Will Ukraine's military be able to sustain it's size in 2025? And further going, if they have the power to launch a counterattack late 2025 earliest, as Mr Kofman has said in a WotR podcast, will they have the people to use those weapons? There are 5-7million men outside the military of military age in Ukraine, so the question as to how often they will be able to draft ~10% of their whole draft pool will be sustainable. I feel like everybody is tiptoeing around the population and manpower issues of Ukraine. Also forgetting that Russia has increased its population by ~7 million. And they can use this population almost immediately since they speak the same language and have similar education. In Germany, ukrainians will not get a working permit as fast, not to mention being employed for high responsibility/requirements positions. Probably one of the biggest reasons why Russians economy still holds... So sanctions would have worked if Russia stayed the same size.

[@commonsense364]

* Aide *Liquidity of Aid *Actual impact of Aid *Supply *sustainability of supply *actual supply availabily * Man power *Corruption *Logistics *application and impact * cost of living of supporters

[@Loki1191]

How exactly has the oil situation been favorable given the enormous losses in revenue that Russia has incurred this year?

[@rodgerhempfing2921]

Russia is still selling cheap oil to India and China.

[@jorgemario1586]

Wishfull thinking had never won a war 🦥

[@scottwatson4584]

These folks are delusional. This discussion isn’t going to age well. Where is Ukraine going to get all of these young men? They aren’t putting old people in the meat grinder for nothing. This war of attrition is unsustainable for the West.

[@reymundotorres771]

Everyone on this panel drinking the same kool-aid Need to have individuals from both sides of this issue to give us some real information to reflect on.

[@sb...904]

Hello from MARCH 2022. What happened to " PUTIN'S OFF - RAMP " .. ??

[@jelmervd2l]

Yea, de-escalation tactics did not pan out well. Only way forward is full, long-term support. If not for Ukraine for NATO nations like the Poland, the Baltics, Finland etc.

[@joshuapaul2022]

They are just lying through their teeth. Meanwhile Zelenskyy himself (he is such a big mouth) in his press-conference said that his military demanded from him mobilization of next 500 000. It's another confirmation that 500 000 Ukrainian soldiers were killed or mangled and crippled for life to the extent that even Zelenskyy couldn't send them back to the front (i.e. amputees without two or more limbs, blind etc.). In fact Zelenskyy is running out of cannon fodder. There are simply no next 500 000 to kidnap off the streets, gyms and public transport. NYT wrote about these mass kidnappings that were happening only in Zelenskyy Ukraine and Hitler's Germany in 1945 in an article ‘People Snatchers’. Ukraine lost almost all its trained and motivated soldiers it had at the beginning of the war. The quality of Ukrainian forces is getting worse by the day. It means that losses are just snowballing. It's unsustainable beyond a spring 2024 with or without a financial help from the West.

[@xemazubia9105]

Es increíble. Dónde viven estos señores?. De verdad se creen lo que dicen?. Creo que más de uno se va a llever una sorpresita en lo que se refiere al desenlace de la guerra de Ukrania.

[@Erik-rp1hi]

I don't understand why the GOP party feels not supporting Ukraine will have no effect to the security of the homeland and our interest. It seems clear as day Russia must not win.

[@dusancville]

why not properly calling it Fueling our Proxy war in Ukraine sounds less confusing

[@johnfadds6089]

The only thing you have to talk about is how Ukraine can surrender in such a way that NATO saves some face.

[@johnsmith91528]

this video is a great example in dangers of echo chambers it's amazing how they state their opinions so dogmatically there's no evidence or proof of anything they say, just hot air

[@needmorecowbell6895]

If there's money to be made making artillery and ammunition, what's the hesitancy to expand production? I can't think of another product where you can sell everything you can make immediately. They're printing money for their shareholders and that printing press will run for years and years.

[@joeandhunterloveukraine1857]

Shells require minerals that the U.S. and the west are already short on.

[@user-rl9tg8mz2r]

61 mins,when all you had to say was Ukraine will be a memory within 18 months

[@user-yh3cs5gg3t]

China is watching American lack of resolve and weakness. This will not end well.

[@sinalolandzela4054]

One of the biggest mistake Western expects who supports Ukraine, is to sit around the table and discuss Russia Ukraine war without involving anyone who is pro Russia and pro peace and negotiations

[@stephenglover8828]

Even if Congress does pass this bill what makes you think it's going to work/make any difference

[@jelmervd2l]

If being scared things won't work out, why get out of bed at all? Who knows what happens on the way to the fridge, might not make it at all so why bother...

[@alfa8728]

Michael Kofman seems way too optimistic about Ukraine's chances to be honest. He seems to hyper fixate on Russia's structural issues (which are very real) while completely ignoring Ukraine's. No mention of Ukrainian Morale, corruption, force quality, it's efforts to modernize from Soviet era doctrines. These are all important too and I think it's dishonest to only focus on issues facing one side.

[@psithurism241]

41:16 - "Hybridity" is a good word to conceptualize national identity however. Good panel 10X.

[@truthbud]

The overwhelming amount of approving and cheering comments by ordinary Russians in response to videos depicting the atrocities against civilians and prisoners of war in Ukraine were just as shocking to Ukrainians as the war itself. We had somehow grown accustomed to the war, but the realization of who we have been living alongside all this time without even knowing it is still horrifying. Those savages referred to themselves as our brotherly people. One can only imagine what they might do to those they consider their enemies. Negotiating with Russia is akin to negotiating with Ebola. Allowing Russia to remain undefeated is like undertreating a deadly infection - it will only return stronger. This is why any peace agreement that doesn't ensure a clear victory for Ukraine is just a temporary ceasefire.

[@alexgame3357]

Great comment ratio guys!

[@crevis12]

39:07.. “Russia isolated from international economy”.. wrong again.. enter in “Brics+”… and the downfall of the US dollar and with its Hegemony

[@marioformosa4259]

People who urge the Ukrainians to fight lack humanity But its strange that those who were kicked out of Afghanistan by peasants are advising how to win against Russia!!!

[@SuperKwame1]

A lot of theses people on your show are very negative about the support of Ukraine 🇺🇦! We the people of the west should stand behind the people of Ukraine! They need the right weapons needed to fight against Russia, and not undermine the Ukrainians government undermine ability!

[@darrenyorston]

Its entirely appropriate for Russia to distribute foreign, particularly US assets, to its citizens in light of the US and others seizing Russian assets.

[@cathys465]

President Zelensky should have spoken to some South Vietnamese vets or some Indians of the "Five Civilized Tribes" Before trusting the US government.

[@katewoolf6059]

Europe makes me so mad 🤬

[@kaimingraymondchoi9909]

In order to look at the future of the Ukraine war, instead of just looking what is happening and anticipated onward for the future one must first look at the motive of the war. United States is the most experienced warmonger on the planet. It has extensive knowledge and data. From the outset of the war, United States must knew well that under no circumstances they could use Ukraine to bring down the entire Russia. So what is the ultimate motive behind the war? Years ago, when Russia started to supply gas to Europe, strategist in United States told Washington that the greatest threat United States could possibly face was Russia getting friendlier and friendlier with Europe. Russia with massive resources and Europe with indepth culture and technology are totally complimentary to each other. If they allied together, they will become the strongest region on the planet. Therefore this must be stopped at all cost. With high power politicians planted in the EU system, they push NATO towards Ukraine, the sole purpose is to make sure Europe would never ever make friends with Russia. United States might at this stage see that the objective has been somewhat achieved and therefore becoming less willing to foot the bill further. This is the key factor that the critics should take in order to determine the future of the war. Obviously from United States point of view, If Europe wishes to foot the bill or have direct conflict withe Russia, it would be even better.

[@triangol]

You nailed it

[@riversidegardenradio9070]

Thank you, Michael! Definitely, we will have to wait a few days until the real situation on the ground on the Kupiyansk - Liman front will be announced. There are reports from various sources that show that the Russians have advanced quite a lot, but on the military maps these movements are not marked. Now, a few words about Pavloka and the Russian attack in that locality.. More precisely about the Russian losses.. During the final attack, the Russians lost... a single soldier. It seems incredible, but absolutely all the video materials presented show the same thing... A single soldier died during a single attack.. How? Absolutely everything that could represent an obstacle in the way of the Russian infantry was shattered by the Russian artillery and aviation. Exactly the same tactics were applied by the Russians in Bakhmut and Mariinka...The Ukrainians do not have the slightest chance to resist at this avalanche of fire (now the Russians have also brought TOS - A1). As long as they do not manage to pass the Russian artillery, they are condemned to death before the battle begins. This is exactly what they suffered in the Liman front, they were destroyed by artillery before they saw any Russian soldiers. For this reason, any attack attempt today was born dead, and the number of lost Ukrainian soldiers exceeds 200, only in Kupiyansk - Liman front. In regard to the loss of soldiers, recently, an increasing number of Ukrainian soldiers surrendering to the Russians has been observed. In the last two days, images appeared of groups over 20 Ukrainians who surrendered, a rare fact in the previous period. And this on the same front. Why? One of the analysts' opinions is that the hard core of the Ukrainian army has been greatly reduced and the new recruits are not so politically indoctrinated. If we think logically, it is a possible answer. As usual, in the end happy things. Last night, the Russian Geran-2 drones disturbed the entire Ukrainian darkness. At least in the Kiev area, the Ukrainians tried to defend themselves using even the famous AIM 120-AMRAAM missiles. The outcome? A total fiasco. Those rockets damaged civilian buildings, cars in parking lots, scared dogs and cats from the streets. Some Ukrainian sources said they also used the NASAM systems, but no one knows the results, not even them. Honestly, I can't smile when I think of those super weapons, which have to defend the NATO airspace, are unable to shoot down a Geran-2 drone that flies at an "amazing" speed of 124 km/h... And the latest news, today "Terminator" and TOS - A1 sang, accompanied by the on stage from Opytne and as a result, 113 Ukrainians fell on their backs .. by pleasure, and another 13 applauded with their hands raised above their heads....

[@shooster5884]

You kinda gave yourself away when you said new recruits were not so 'politically indoctrinated'... But then you have used the word genocide in relation to the Ukrainians in the Donbas since 2014 so it's obvious you are a supporter of Russia. You didn't mention the 500,000 Ukrainians forced out of Donbas by the Wagner send there by Russia to link up with local militia and create circumstances to illegally Annex the territory..

[@albertocontreras3312]

It is accepted the fact that Ukraine is fighting for West democratic values , and for Europe's freedom . Therefore all the West united should support Ukraine with soldiers also . Thanks regards , bye . This war has lasted too much and ukrainian soldiers need some back up in a more decicive way .

[@joyaku3078]

CORRECTION THE WAR IS NATO RUSO WAR

[@teddited9682]

Why does no one mention how awful it is that as long as the widow gets paid, everything will be okay! What does that say about Russian society?! And these people are treating this as an obvious, yep, that’s how it will work..I don’t think that if US boys started dieing that their mom’s and wives’ would think that’s fine!?

[@Yolanta-gh1oc]

Currently Russia desperately needs pause for a few years to recover its economy and Mis Maria is Russian voice . It will be nice to invite someone objective

[@SeveredLegs]

Snegovaya seems surprised that supposedly Russia has 300,000 casualties and yet there's no protests in the streets. The easiest answer to that apparent contradiction of circumstances is likely that these are bogus numbers that are simply born out of hatred of Russia and old stereotypes from the Soviet Union. It's really difficult to imagine the side with 5x artillery, cutting edge missile tech and aviation, in addition to the fact that all of their soldiers are reserves that have been previously trained, would somehow be taking more casualties than an army made entirely of conscripts begging for a mixture of random weapons from different countries (that they weren't initially trained to use). It just doesn't add up. People who spout figures like this always seem more like people pretending to be neutral observers, and disguise in their bias with overly detailed conversations. Why did Ukraine ever think they had any chance of beating Russia?

[@thegreatrainman2336]

Imagine that a weak and untrained Nation able to make the Russian army retreat and evacuate it's main forward Naval Port in fear of it's expensive ship's being sunk. Oh wait haven't they also hit the main supply lifeline on multiple occasions? And Ukraine has shot down how many Hypersonic missile's? 🤔 I wonder why Russia isn't celebrating it's fallen soldier's like it has since the end of WW2? Keep eating BS pies that filthy Beard you are wearing is 😂😂

[@oisinhennessy6846]

Russia invaded Ukraine. Why doesn't putin just bring his troops back to their homes and families in Russia?

[@djordjelezajic8435]

If the Minsk agreement was honored, Donetsk and Lugansk would still be Ukraine.The West counted on Russia collapsing internally under the pressure of sanctions, that their military is weak, that Putin does not have people' s support, etc,etc...The problem is, every segment of this plan had to work in order to succeed, and nothing worked.USA used this situation to make Europe weaker, as a result Germany is not the biggest economy in Europe, Russia is.

[@Hedningen1]

Yes United states finally succeded in destroying all relations between Germany and Russia, something they wanted to do for a long time. Europe needs Russia, Russia does not need Europe. Its infuriating that we let the global puppetmaster meddle in our internal affairs

[@michafrica]

War is not video game. Many suffer and when is finished is big mess...no one ask what will be if Ukraine decide to join Russia. Happened before.

[@Solder-of-Empire]

Not a single real question. Ukraine lost 320 000 solders. How will they replace their fighters if no one wants to go to war?

[@disanKh]

Sofa General staff..👍

[@robertprawendowski2850]

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[@brettfriel7424]

These people forget Ukrainian losses and Ukrainian so called “democratic”conscription practices Ukrain has big problems Russian tactics slowly grinding Ukrainian men and materials Secondly we still don’t know the wests end game Is it to the last Ukrainian?