The Art of Footsies - Fighting Game Fundamentals

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@estebanacostaolivera3232
@estebanacostaolivera3232 2 жыл бұрын
The mental games that happen during the neutral and footsies are the reason why I love fighting games
@s_factor_sam
@s_factor_sam 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad it has been a dying art over the last 10-15 years, in favor of gameplay design that rewards and enforces offensive play, by the hands of the devs themselves. There's far more Neutral and footsies in MOBAs and non-traditional fighting games like Gundam Extreme Vs, Absolver, and For Honor than the vast majority of modern FGs. 🤷‍♂️
@estebanacostaolivera3232
@estebanacostaolivera3232 2 жыл бұрын
@@s_factor_sam I don't know, a lot of fast paced FGs have my favorites versions of neutral gameplay, like JoJo HFTF which is one of my favorites games to watch because of the crazy pokes and baits
@pilearcato
@pilearcato 2 жыл бұрын
what mental game i just hold forward
@Cystlib
@Cystlib 2 жыл бұрын
That's why I enjoy smash bros. Combos are short and as a result the game focusses more on neutral
@Serralas
@Serralas 2 жыл бұрын
@@s_factor_sam I partly agree with you. But it definitely hasn't been as long as 10-15 years. Games like Smash Ultimate DB FighterZ,, Street Fighter, and Tekken still have footsies.
@dandylion1987
@dandylion1987 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who doesn't play fighting games it's fascinating how complex, deep and difficult they are. Such a high skill ceiling it seems
@crimsonfgc3543
@crimsonfgc3543 2 жыл бұрын
it's wild because im a preacher of how hard fighting games truely are, and no one ever believes me
@MadnessJackey
@MadnessJackey 2 жыл бұрын
watch some Arena shooter break down too. it's basically fight game but in fps.
@waverazor
@waverazor 2 жыл бұрын
@@MadnessJackey i now noticed you said "arena shooter" almost thought you said arena fighters... Arena fighters are so unga bunga
@MadnessJackey
@MadnessJackey 2 жыл бұрын
@@waverazor arena fighter sounds like a mess already
@ihaveaplan.ijustneedmoney.9777
@ihaveaplan.ijustneedmoney.9777 2 жыл бұрын
@@crimsonfgc3543 For my generation it was because of Tekken's accessibility back then. Every kid who owned a PS2 or PSP would also own a Tekken title and would be aware how to pull an "Eddie" where they just mash X and O. So when we start playing a 2D fighter like SF4, they get completely bodied.
@Gpop119
@Gpop119 2 жыл бұрын
Melty Blood, aka "air footsies". Because almost every character has a double jump and air dash and anti-airs being generally weak, that a lot of the combat is in the air, and getting an aerial counter hit is HUGE (untechable until you hit the ground, so it's basically a free full combo at that point)
@taylorbee4010
@taylorbee4010 2 жыл бұрын
That's the thing I like about melty blood is it actually makes you work. It's an insane anime game but it has a neutral game. Probably what makes it hard too
@Thee_Znutz
@Thee_Znutz 2 жыл бұрын
What is the complete name of that melty blood game in 9:38?
@Gpop119
@Gpop119 2 жыл бұрын
@@Thee_Znutz that one is Melty Blood Actress Again Current Code. Or MBAACC for short
@Thee_Znutz
@Thee_Znutz 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gpop119 oh Thank you :D
@Teneban
@Teneban 2 жыл бұрын
For me, footsies are basically just toying with the frontier of reaction. There's a range after which you can react to anything your opponent does - and if you're weaving back and forth across the edge of that range, your opponent is never quite sure whether or not you'll be able to react to what they do. You have to make them think that you can't, when you actually can.
@semuta2752
@semuta2752 2 жыл бұрын
I already never get tired of seeing different perspectives on fighting game fundamentals, and felt lucky to see an Akshon video on footsies this morning. But, got-dang! Your comment on *using* it is easily one of the most well constructed I’ve seen.
@Serralas
@Serralas 2 жыл бұрын
100% accurate. That's how I always viewed it too.
@letsmakeit110
@letsmakeit110 2 жыл бұрын
i was talking with my trad fighter friends about smash and was shocked they never heard the term "burst radius." It's exactly what you're describing the range where you can't react to all of your opponent's attacks.
@Tinfoiltomcat
@Tinfoiltomcat 2 жыл бұрын
That's just one aspect of footsies young grass hopper
@omarhasan03
@omarhasan03 2 жыл бұрын
Just want to note that footsie is not a term coined in the video game community. It was also in the boxing/martial arts community as a term used to describe using movement to deceive, manipulate, or convince your opponent of the space you control and how quickly you can close or open more space safely. It was not coined in the 90s arcade culture. I knew boxing kids in NY that would say their legs were sore from practicing footsies or their footwork. Muhammad Ali was the master of real life footsies, btw. He could move most opponents anywhere he wanted without throwing a punch. Just using his footwork/footsies.
@theWIIISEguy
@theWIIISEguy Жыл бұрын
Agreed. The proper way to cite its use in the fgc would be to say it was popularized by the FGC. It's almost exclusively used in the genre these days.
@SAPProd
@SAPProd 2 жыл бұрын
8:16 this is why the 90s was Capcom at its best: they had several different and unique fighting games out that fed into one another. Darkstalkers introduced aerial dashing, EX versions of special moves, push blocking, and various other concepts that would be adapted and perfected in Marvel and other games, and likewise they took concepts from their contemporaries (both within & outside the company). It felt like a thriving ecosystems where titles that weren’t the main headliners still had their community to learn and discover these smaller titles and yet be able to go between them without being absolutely lost. I learned Darkstalkers because of my experience in MvC1. That’s the Capcom I want to come back, where cameos in each other’s games are not mere asset dumps, but advertising for other games to try. I want to be able to play Street Fighter 6, Darkstalkers 4, Rival Schools 3 (or 4, however they consider Japan only sequel/upgrade), Power Stone 3, and Lord Jedah forbid Red Earth 2! It’s why I feel the upcoming Capcom Fighting Collection is just as important a release, if not moreso, than Street Fighter 6!
@mikeg4490
@mikeg4490 2 жыл бұрын
I'm far more invested in the Capcom Collection than SF6
@joaojahnke9684
@joaojahnke9684 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry fam, those sequels are not happening. Capcom has been pumping those ports to "test the waters" since the PS3, they all sold well, but no sequels. Its just a quick buck
@SAPProd
@SAPProd 2 жыл бұрын
@@joaojahnke9684 yeah, no one at Capcom has said “buy collection and we’ll consider a sequel”. I still encourage everyone to get this collection because you’re getting 10 classic games, one of which never before released. To ignore them would be to miss out on what made Capcom great in the 90s. And yeah, these games are available on Fightcade, and the competitive scene for these games have been active for years (it’s not like we had any other options for the past 9 years), but having them on consoles and officially will help it to grow further. So sequels or no sequels, future collections or not, I encourage everyone to get this.
@keithsimpson2150
@keithsimpson2150 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in KOF... Hop beats low b beats stand jab. Now do it at warp speed while considering throws, angles, and combo confirms. footsies in KOF is the pseudo autopilot you hop around in looking for your advantage I think.
@Fedorchik1536
@Fedorchik1536 2 жыл бұрын
It's more about making you opponent guessing every time you either jump or run forward, while also doing the same yourself xD
@Alienworks44
@Alienworks44 2 жыл бұрын
Loving the variety of FG music used for the background. It's amazing
@swagger5979
@swagger5979 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for spreading the fighting game love!
@d4rkz3r011
@d4rkz3r011 2 жыл бұрын
Man that circle back to kicking shins at the end gave me Core-A Gaming vibes haha. Great video!
@swagger5979
@swagger5979 2 жыл бұрын
For anyone looking to play fighting games and wanna learn footies here are some games I highly recommend to help you along your way. These games are cheap or you can play on fightcade 2 Footies: free Sf2 : fightcade 2 Káiser knuckle : fightcade 2 this game is extremely hard but worth it. These games will help you tremendously with footies in almost every game. I personally ply footies and káiser knuckle for warm ups before tourneys or online play in sfv or ggst even tekken. If you have any questions or want to add anything to this list for new players please do
@manleyfgc7981
@manleyfgc7981 2 жыл бұрын
Every game has footsies. People should play what they like.
@quint2568
@quint2568 2 жыл бұрын
Divekick and samsho
@quantumpotato
@quantumpotato 2 жыл бұрын
I thought this was going to be all about the game, Footsies. Great episde! Something that always stands out too me is how if you don't threaten with hitboxes at all, your opponetn can read that you aren't throwing any moves out and safely move forward. In TLA, you can advance against Rice who may be looking for an anti-air this way
@MrChessboxing
@MrChessboxing 2 жыл бұрын
As an I-No main, your Neutral and Punish clip examples gave me PTSD
@Surr3alll
@Surr3alll Жыл бұрын
That Quora post really helped me conceptualize footsies better. Thank you for that.
@drunken_viper
@drunken_viper 2 жыл бұрын
I love how they have used Lei's stance flowchart 00:38 ...as a Lei main this does put a smile on my face lol.
@Sadeyo1
@Sadeyo1 2 жыл бұрын
I love fighting games due to the complexity of them.
@Ramsey276one
@Ramsey276one 2 жыл бұрын
And still you can start with Wacky Flailing and Manic Mashing XD Won’t get you far, but…
@Ralkila
@Ralkila 2 жыл бұрын
You're doing a good work making these subjects relevant in new gens. Even if footsies are a web of decisions and commitments, its main mental juggle relies in the whiff punishments; it requires deep knowledge of the game and practice on hit and on block options on your disposals. But as you said that would be complicate it and add layers that would whiff the purpose of starting the thinking process in new players.
@karue7581
@karue7581 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love your fighting game content!
@monkehotdogs2227
@monkehotdogs2227 2 жыл бұрын
Best fundamentals vid I’ve seen, def dropped a sub
@Akshonesports
@Akshonesports 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the support!
@bananabike279
@bananabike279 2 жыл бұрын
Great and informative video! The editing especially was very clean
@lrgogo1517
@lrgogo1517 2 жыл бұрын
I must sing praise of the tutorial sequence where I-no is caught slippin’ and the greenscreen effect _suddenly shatters_ as Zato proceeds with a supreme beatdown
@LobotomyPatient
@LobotomyPatient 2 жыл бұрын
Have to complement the script and editing polish in these videos. Amazing job
@zu_1455
@zu_1455 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid. Have been playing since SF2 but never learned all the lingo of competitive fighting games.
@DigiMatt52
@DigiMatt52 2 жыл бұрын
KoF XV dropping recently and the series' unique hop/jump/s.hop/s.jump does something to footsies that even air dashing doesn't give. Obviously this video isn't a comprehensive guide to footsies, but it is also the only series that does what it does.
@pleaseshutup7053
@pleaseshutup7053 2 жыл бұрын
Footsies are my go to move it’s just like real fighting a low kick is just a quick leg check over time if will do damage to your opponent and most low attacks are super safe
@s_factor_sam
@s_factor_sam 2 жыл бұрын
That's why I prefer entries of SoulCal, VF, and Tekken from the 2002 to 2012 period. They followed those real-world fighting fundamentals and allowed a wider variety of viable playstyles than in any fighting game made since then.
@SeriouslyWTFAndre
@SeriouslyWTFAndre 2 жыл бұрын
This was an amazingly well done video. Got to hit the subscribe
@Akshonesports
@Akshonesports 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@papolosD03
@papolosD03 11 ай бұрын
An interesting thing is that this concept is similar to the modern fencing term "skirmish". The idea of controlling measure, feinting and analyzing your opponent is intrinsic to any type of duel.
@Weeb1367
@Weeb1367 Жыл бұрын
*Mental breakdown due to 1 sec reaction time and inability to whiff punish*
@alex_oiman
@alex_oiman 2 жыл бұрын
footsies is unironically my favorite fighting game, followed by bushido blade
@s_factor_sam
@s_factor_sam 2 жыл бұрын
True, unadulterated fighting taste. Sadly, the most unpopular opinion among fighting game players and criminally ignored by devs.
@nahometesfay1112
@nahometesfay1112 2 жыл бұрын
There's an online crossplay Footsies tournament this Saturday if you want some good matches. You can sign up on the Footsies discord.
@binarioochentaycinco4791
@binarioochentaycinco4791 2 жыл бұрын
you may also love divekick
@comicalbanana
@comicalbanana 2 жыл бұрын
I think Sakurai puts it really well in his Kazuya reveal for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, when he shows the vastly different positional game between traditional and platform fighters. He displays a red line for the front of each fighter in Tekken 7, emphasizing the horizontal importance, then shows a clip of Ultimate with two characters, highlighted as red shapes on vastly different vertical AND horizontal positions, showing the importance of multiple dimensions in spacing.
@DonWippo1
@DonWippo1 2 жыл бұрын
Missed Opportunity to mention the King of Fighters and its Shorthop Mechanic, since I believe it has just as big an impact of how footsies are played as Airdashes.
@elistiagel642
@elistiagel642 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I need this
@scoutboy25
@scoutboy25 2 жыл бұрын
Never knew I needed akshon to insult my shins three times at 3:35
@Ramsey276one
@Ramsey276one 2 жыл бұрын
XD
@saulitix
@saulitix Жыл бұрын
Footsies is that thing I practice a lot but then just forget about it immediately and start panicking during the match
@kaisersigma1
@kaisersigma1 Жыл бұрын
I mean, the names is a clear reference to what it is, moving around looking for chances.
@jtothehan0
@jtothehan0 2 жыл бұрын
I was gonna participate in a footseis rollback Edition tournament This will help alot
@curtiswows
@curtiswows Жыл бұрын
this is what i needed i just hit gold in sf6 and felt like i hit a wall, this is a banger video
@dextra_24703
@dextra_24703 2 жыл бұрын
thats quite perfect, i wanted to design a footsies character
@user-ro5ww2rb7z
@user-ro5ww2rb7z 2 жыл бұрын
>Talks about mixups >Jack a dandy plays Brilliant.
@IKARIking67
@IKARIking67 2 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful explaination. Subbed.
@nomaschalupas2453
@nomaschalupas2453 Жыл бұрын
The effin patients of a rock…..that full round 1 move mind games lol.
@Mattyyy--
@Mattyyy-- 3 ай бұрын
wow this was such a good guide! thanks so much for this!
@johnnyworms
@johnnyworms 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Love the title--has a nice ring to it.
@MoistyRain
@MoistyRain 2 жыл бұрын
Really good video, I think you guys are doing amazing with the amount of informative videos being created.
@mrt445
@mrt445 2 жыл бұрын
The other reason why Marvel is fast paced is because of extremely quick recoveries after knockdowns, which new fighting games should implement. The 3 second knockdown phase in every SF game slows down the pace.
@logangardner3577
@logangardner3577 2 жыл бұрын
A Bad Santa reference at the end? Hell ya
@JimmyGeniusEllis
@JimmyGeniusEllis 2 жыл бұрын
This beautiful. Absolutely beautiful.
@armorbearer9702
@armorbearer9702 2 жыл бұрын
Further adding to the complexity of Mix-ups is the stance system. Games like Mortal Kombat X have different variations of the same character.
@Ramsey276one
@Ramsey276one 2 жыл бұрын
LEI WULONG
@goodjuju8198
@goodjuju8198 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta catch your opponent slippin so you can get their health bar dippin
@fernandozavaletabustos205
@fernandozavaletabustos205 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always!!
@kentmichaelgalang686
@kentmichaelgalang686 2 жыл бұрын
when i got into fighting games and i heard about footies i expected so many foot fetish jokes
@Lanzetsu
@Lanzetsu 2 жыл бұрын
I am so used to Guilty Gear that playing other games and walking backwards makes me feel I am almost losing lol Also I never liked MVC because... it feels really chaotic and you have no clue what the heck is going to happen, strikers + aire craziness is not for me
@mini_Sneaky4778
@mini_Sneaky4778 2 жыл бұрын
I like the editing
@binarioochentaycinco4791
@binarioochentaycinco4791 2 жыл бұрын
funny thing in these games fighters are able to render an opponent unconscious just doing quick taps to the foot with their foot.
@KingAston
@KingAston Жыл бұрын
3:42 this is why I love Street Fighter 😩🙏🏽
@comradecatbug5289
@comradecatbug5289 2 жыл бұрын
6:40 Yooo sick Queen tee
@andrew_gaming7133
@andrew_gaming7133 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like if I learned footsie my friends would call me lame and I'd just rush down again.
@pinoyboy3552
@pinoyboy3552 2 жыл бұрын
4:11 missed oppurtunity to say "it's easy to know what you Ken and Ken't do" lol
@CocoMura
@CocoMura 2 жыл бұрын
>me playing eldenring >gets grabbed >"ACTIN'LIEK'YOU'WONT'GET'COMMAND'GRABBED"
@SivartAuhsoj
@SivartAuhsoj 2 жыл бұрын
"Marvel players getting washed in other games?" IDK about that one. MvC2 and MvC3 have created some world class players in many other fighting games.
@KuroKamii94
@KuroKamii94 2 жыл бұрын
Funny how one of said players was playing during that statement
@Clbull118
@Clbull118 Жыл бұрын
Smash Bros too. Leffen almost beat Go1 in the Ro64 of a major DBFZ tournament.
@Ka0sNinja117
@Ka0sNinja117 2 жыл бұрын
Arial is a font, aerial means in the air...
@marlow893
@marlow893 2 жыл бұрын
Lesson learned : protect the shins.
@markmessi9020
@markmessi9020 2 жыл бұрын
I do this in the real fighting. Footsies wins real fights too 👊
@AtmaDragoon
@AtmaDragoon 2 жыл бұрын
0:10 - Yeah, I hear Times New Roman and Helvetica tend to have a tough time in that matchup, specifically. Courier probably fares better -- or Garamond, if you're feeling _spicy._
@GraveUypo
@GraveUypo 2 жыл бұрын
i feel left out on these fighting games videos, as my favorite series never gets mentioned. i have never had so much fun before and after dead or alive 2 ultimate. so many mind games with the counter system that keeping your cool was more important than your "skill" to rack wins. only game i ever had best of 200 matches. back when my brother and friends were also game for doing shit together instead of being boring old persons with no drive for anything
@ethanharmon1228
@ethanharmon1228 2 жыл бұрын
footsies is such a great game
@MichaelHarto
@MichaelHarto 2 жыл бұрын
Kof players: "wtf is footsies? Just jump & attack" 😂
@laneuwu1660
@laneuwu1660 2 жыл бұрын
gassy content, super underrated channel
@Akshonesports
@Akshonesports 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@charliebaker1427
@charliebaker1427 Жыл бұрын
Love air dashing characters, Beowulf is my main
@akajesustsuki
@akajesustsuki 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait until ign copy this vid like the wave dashing and wombs combo vid in their plagirisaursus series
@taylorbee4010
@taylorbee4010 2 жыл бұрын
Walk back walk forward stick out a light or stick out a medium. Repeat. Sweep.
@agaed7676
@agaed7676 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone talks about footsies but noone talks about footie
@user-gr9qu1ol8f
@user-gr9qu1ol8f 2 жыл бұрын
Great video @akshon Esports what is the name of the background music at 10:22 please?
@fhjunior6183
@fhjunior6183 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid
@obananagato
@obananagato 2 жыл бұрын
so basically footsies is a mind game
@RodroVT
@RodroVT 2 жыл бұрын
hey akshon what font do you use for the thumbnail titles?
@phorchybug3286
@phorchybug3286 2 жыл бұрын
Dear god, I really suck at fighting games! I just like to go with my own ideas, instead. The only complex combo I can even do is like with ROBO FORTUNE: jump-HK-LP-LP-HP Everything else is just spacing and spamming lasers. I am... Just a mediocre ROBO FORTUNE main at best.
@allengordon6929
@allengordon6929 Ай бұрын
If anybody wants to do this IRL, Fencing and HEMA fit the bill.
@kussin1265
@kussin1265 2 жыл бұрын
Just some feedback, maybe try to be a bit more casual or enunciate less. Cracked me up when you said "shotos" it sounded like "show toes" because of the way you were speaking
@Rootbeeroverseer
@Rootbeeroverseer Жыл бұрын
the track @1:45 got my old-ass wanting to get into the fgc. What is it?
@chibimentor
@chibimentor 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ghhn4505
@ghhn4505 Жыл бұрын
What's the song that starts at 11:39 ?
@caedavch.9883
@caedavch.9883 2 жыл бұрын
3:35 My shins…!
@lukek1848
@lukek1848 2 жыл бұрын
what is the song at the end?
@defearl
@defearl 2 жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as "lag" in fighting games; that's a smash thing. In fighting games, a move that leaves you disadvantageous at the end is called "minus on block".
@noname1210hh
@noname1210hh 2 жыл бұрын
clueless
@zenheretic
@zenheretic Жыл бұрын
ok but what is delay based netcode then
@doodoo2065
@doodoo2065 Жыл бұрын
i always liked games that encouraged and rewarded in the moment decision making rather than previous knowledge such as memorizing a 50 hit combo, i wonder if something could ve done about it without making the game feel jank
@beaushorkey9313
@beaushorkey9313 2 жыл бұрын
@5:20 OOO I GOT MIXED! I GOT MIXED HARD AS SHIT!
@KusanagiMotoko100
@KusanagiMotoko100 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't Core-A-Gaming made this same video even featuring Footsies the game?
@shinfitz
@shinfitz 2 жыл бұрын
How could you bring up aggression and dashing without mentioning 1995’s Mortal Kombat 3?
@methanesulfonic
@methanesulfonic 2 жыл бұрын
2:34 300IQ SamSho play
@SirS3mt3x
@SirS3mt3x Жыл бұрын
Bro at 11:21 got hit irl 😂😂😭😭
@playharderscrub
@playharderscrub 2 жыл бұрын
Guilty gear going for aggressive game play as i fight HC😭
@harry1178
@harry1178 Жыл бұрын
First time I see the term "hurtbox" rather "hitbox".
@MasterSunnyEX
@MasterSunnyEX 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what the name of the song from 11:45 onwards is? It sounds dope
@josephaloissr
@josephaloissr 2 жыл бұрын
song near the end?
@Captain1nsaneo
@Captain1nsaneo 2 жыл бұрын
By the final summery then it's an overloaded term that describes too many game states to be clinically useful? I'm not very experienced in fighting games and I'd understood it as when neither side has committed to an attack yet.
@diegogatjens1728
@diegogatjens1728 2 жыл бұрын
9:11 what did you say about marvel players!?
@humansaresilly2465
@humansaresilly2465 2 жыл бұрын
We all need to come together as a community to find another name for this. Saying I'm gonna do some footsies while playing a fighting game makes me wanna disembowel myself to retain my honor
@demonkingnobunaga
@demonkingnobunaga 2 жыл бұрын
yo I need that samsho V clip lol
@jakk2631
@jakk2631 2 жыл бұрын
The footsies game reminds me of a game called one strake
@Ramsey276one
@Ramsey276one 2 жыл бұрын
Where from? I think I got it on Switch?
@jakk2631
@jakk2631 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ramsey276one yeah it on switch it from quibcgames, it got updates new fighters easy pick up and play it real teents
@opedragon4742
@opedragon4742 2 жыл бұрын
what game was shown at 12:00 on screen?
@neon-lake
@neon-lake 2 жыл бұрын
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