What if Big Bird Exploded in the Challenger Disaster?

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@AlternateHistoryHub
@AlternateHistoryHub Жыл бұрын
This was the April Fool's 2023 video. It got out of hand
@realAlexChoi
@realAlexChoi Жыл бұрын
I can tell
@solid244
@solid244 Жыл бұрын
No no, it's right where it should be. Unlike big bird.
@Marngel
@Marngel Жыл бұрын
You're 22 days late. But in a way, that just makes this video even more funny lol
@henrywilson2136
@henrywilson2136 Жыл бұрын
Really delayed it too.
@gamebawesome
@gamebawesome Жыл бұрын
So out of hand it jumped 22 days after April 1
@angrytheclown801
@angrytheclown801 Жыл бұрын
I was in class during the Challenger. They got all of us together to watch, and no lie, said right before blast off, "If you work hard and study, one day this could be you!"
@drpibisback7680
@drpibisback7680 Жыл бұрын
It's still a functional lesson, just a much bleaker one. You too could do your best and still wind up fucked at the will of the powers that be.
@fast-toast
@fast-toast Жыл бұрын
"This could be yo..." BOOM
@Thegoatone23
@Thegoatone23 Жыл бұрын
“Uhh…. maybe not like that…”
@StormTeeVee
@StormTeeVee Жыл бұрын
They studied TOO much
@Ijustusethistocommentstuff
@Ijustusethistocommentstuff Жыл бұрын
@@drpibisback7680 Nature or government? Both are equally true.
@darthyall841
@darthyall841 Жыл бұрын
The death of Big Bird on the Challenger being canonized in Sesame Street lore would probably be the most bizarre thing to ever happen in any piece of fiction.
@guccifer764
@guccifer764 Жыл бұрын
It would be like if Gonzo canonically died fighting in Afghanistan
@Treesinthesummer
@Treesinthesummer Жыл бұрын
@@guccifer764 wait what
@jeremyriley1238
@jeremyriley1238 Жыл бұрын
I have to agree, especially if instead of recasting Big Bird, they discontinued the character out of respect for Carol Spinney, the man who was playing Big Bird at the time. Who would take over the show before Tickle Me Elmo allowed the red monster to hog the spotlight, as well as a whole half-hour of the show for himself? Telly?
@roguishpaladin
@roguishpaladin Жыл бұрын
@@jeremyriley1238 Probably Grover, or maybe Snuffy becomes someone that everyone can see?
@quinlan5667
@quinlan5667 Жыл бұрын
Best name and profile pic I’ve seen
@DragonSoul621
@DragonSoul621 Жыл бұрын
Since big bird has different versions of the character depending on the region, can you imagine a funeral with all international big birds around the casket mourning the loss of their older brother while abelardo cries in a telenovela like manner.
@dannypipewrench533
@dannypipewrench533 Жыл бұрын
That would be interesting.
@rossjohnstone4689
@rossjohnstone4689 Жыл бұрын
That sounds like it could be a robot chicken sketch X3
@jadehaze7939
@jadehaze7939 Жыл бұрын
Abelardo lmao te entiendo
@Catdaddyacab
@Catdaddyacab Жыл бұрын
POR QUUUEEEEEEEEEE
@BoMwarriorVlog
@BoMwarriorVlog Жыл бұрын
This was what I was thinking during the beginning of the video! 😃
@canadadelendaest8687
@canadadelendaest8687 Жыл бұрын
I was in the first grade when this happened. My teacher knew Mcauliffe, she said they were college room mates or something. We were tuned in live for the launch. My teacher was so proud and excited for her friend. I remember her absolutely balling when it blew up. She was devastated. We had a substitute for about a week after that
@ellislyons6348
@ellislyons6348 Жыл бұрын
I think that for a comment this serious, I should absolutely let you know that it’s spelled “bawling” because otherwise it just sounds like your teacher took to basketball as a coping mechanism or something.
@stupididiot4034
@stupididiot4034 Жыл бұрын
​@@ellislyons6348Bawling while balling.
@spimbles
@spimbles 11 ай бұрын
​@@ellislyons6348LOL
@akisa7865
@akisa7865 10 ай бұрын
​@@ellislyons6348 "Hello class, i will be your substitute teacher for a few days. Your teacher is currently hitting 3 pointers at the basketball court, we hope you understand."
@Suz1
@Suz1 10 ай бұрын
@@ellislyons6348 There's a sexual meaning too so yeah this clarification is important.
@radopon
@radopon Жыл бұрын
As a certain youtuber once said; "There is a timeline not too far from this one where Big Bird is a casualty in the single worst astronautical disaster in history."
@tuongtang8974
@tuongtang8974 Жыл бұрын
Sam O nella Academy
@MicrowaveOvenVideo
@MicrowaveOvenVideo Жыл бұрын
underrated comment
@hydrix6419
@hydrix6419 Жыл бұрын
Truly a legend
@shampoo.international4504
@shampoo.international4504 Жыл бұрын
A small part of me wishes that happend"
@mantisnt1335
@mantisnt1335 Жыл бұрын
They also said the n word
@James11111
@James11111 Жыл бұрын
Really fucked up part is that the crew didn't even die in the explosion. The part they were actually in got launched away from it, and they flew for almost 3 minutes before impacting the ocean at over 200 MPH. Their bodies were found over a month later. But now imagine the recovery team pulling that debris out of the ocean, and finding 6 decomposed astronauts and a severely fucked up *Big Bird.*
@jandm4ever716
@jandm4ever716 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully they were knocked unconscious before they hit the water. What a terrible way to go
@oddgarrysmodfunnies1337
@oddgarrysmodfunnies1337 Жыл бұрын
@@jandm4ever716i read in the NASA report they have in their website that the most likely thing was that only some of them were unconscious or dead before hitting water.
@RipOffProductionsLLC
@RipOffProductionsLLC Жыл бұрын
A fucked up big bird with a corpse inside, as I'd assume they wouldn't be shipping an empty costume into space...
@oddgarrysmodfunnies1337
@oddgarrysmodfunnies1337 Жыл бұрын
@@Thatswildpimp you laughed at 7 people being fucking launched at the ocean at speeds on where their bodies would be crushed on impact?
@0008loser
@0008loser Жыл бұрын
​@Odd Garry's Mod Funnies I think he is laughing at the fact seeing a big ass big bird along 7 other people.
@Webb_Studios
@Webb_Studios Жыл бұрын
Imagine if, instead of killing Big Bird off, they began the next Sesame Street episode with Big Bird, blackened by ash, falling from the sky, and getting back up while dusting himself off.
@youdontknowsponge6218
@youdontknowsponge6218 Жыл бұрын
Or he gets stuck in Oscar's trash can when he lands.
@logandunlap9156
@logandunlap9156 Жыл бұрын
that would be so tasteless, i love it
@Plaincheerio755
@Plaincheerio755 Жыл бұрын
but could you imagine explaining how big bird lived through that but the rest of the crew in fact...didn't
@Sarahbryson321
@Sarahbryson321 Жыл бұрын
Or, he’s injured and helped off by…. I don’t know..Kermit? They train someone up to do the job hurriedly, and he explains that recovering from it changed him a bit, and the show continues as normal
@enotsnavdier6867
@enotsnavdier6867 Жыл бұрын
​@Plaincheerio755 Big Bird was just built different
@santividal9387
@santividal9387 6 ай бұрын
'If Big Bird were on it, the Challenger wouldn't have exploded' is a statement I wasn't prepared for actually
@abusedumpster8882
@abusedumpster8882 Жыл бұрын
“NASA dropped the ball so hard, they killed a fictional character” Quotes like this are why I watch this channel.
@V1ncenz010
@V1ncenz010 Жыл бұрын
The moment I read this he said it
@dr.danielanemeth-gherman8171
@dr.danielanemeth-gherman8171 Жыл бұрын
BRO ME TO
@artistwithouttalent
@artistwithouttalent 5 ай бұрын
*_Not as funny to me as the accompanying image_*
@CheesiusCaesar69
@CheesiusCaesar69 Жыл бұрын
AlternateHistoryHub in 2016: What if Germany won WW1? AlternateHistoryHub in 2023: Hey what if big bird just fucking exploded
@Attmay
@Attmay Жыл бұрын
That’s like inviting Miss Piggy to a luau.
@ianoneill5189
@ianoneill5189 Жыл бұрын
He’s been wanting to go in this direction for a while just decided to do it I guess 😂 😅 I’m definitely still here for it.
@Gohka
@Gohka Жыл бұрын
There's only so many different ways you can ask "what if Germany won WW1/2" before it gets stale. Now he's bringing out the big guns.
@socialjusticewarrior6971
@socialjusticewarrior6971 Жыл бұрын
Glorious
@SIGNOR-G
@SIGNOR-G Жыл бұрын
I think he improved MASSIVELY.
@BlackShardStudio
@BlackShardStudio Жыл бұрын
I was one of the children watching the whole thing unfold live. Barely six years old. I was initially confused at the idea that people had been on the shuttle when this happened. It was my first major realization that adults didn't, in fact, have everything under control.
@MoonCobalt
@MoonCobalt Жыл бұрын
💀
@JoducusKwak
@JoducusKwak Жыл бұрын
thats a shitty way to find out Adults are as helpless as you
@ZealousWins
@ZealousWins Жыл бұрын
That's a rather huge plot twist for being so young.
@WolfXGamerful
@WolfXGamerful Жыл бұрын
You must've been a menace growing up, Tim.
@entropyfan5714
@entropyfan5714 Жыл бұрын
I remember watching this in 6th grade; we had all pulled up really close to the TV. I was a bigtime space/scifi enthusiast so was really into it; my teacher was also, and she had the additional emotional investment of another lady teacher being on board. We had talked about this shuttle launch enthusiastically a few times in class. I distinctly remember shouting "FvCK!", really felt like I got punched in the gut. Most of the other kids weren't really paying attention & didn't even notice until I yelled out. My teacher sure did though; burst into tears....which set me off. When the other kids figured out what was up, quite a few of them did too. Certainly one of my worst childhood memories.
@ccompson2
@ccompson2 Жыл бұрын
Imagine how utterly world changing it could have been if they put santa on the challenger.
@kevin8712
@kevin8712 6 ай бұрын
Children all across the world scarred for life. Angry mobs of parents on the streets, howling for Reagan's blood and NASA's immediate abolition. The USA being sanctioned left and right. Religious authorities all denouncing the commodification of Christmas and how it has led the youth astray. The end of space flight, at least in America and the West. It holds up fine in the East until the collapse of the USSR. The Republican Party collapsing, and the Democrats emerging victorious... I'll let you lot imagine the rest.
@MovieFan1912
@MovieFan1912 4 ай бұрын
Then Christmas would be cancelled forever.
@leonardo9259
@leonardo9259 2 ай бұрын
Maybe then Coca Cola couldn't milk that festivity
@Man77772
@Man77772 2 ай бұрын
Nah he’d win.
@austinbaccus
@austinbaccus 21 күн бұрын
The Grinch would never beat the allegations
@SuperSaiyanGuyver
@SuperSaiyanGuyver Жыл бұрын
Dude I was one of those same kids. My mom was in the shower. "Mommy mommy the space shuttle blew up!" "No sweetie that only happens in Star Wars". Oddly enough, my dad had the same discussion with his mom when Oswald got shot. This was interesting. Thank you so much.
@Username-je7of
@Username-je7of Жыл бұрын
I thought you meant Oswald as in Chuck Oswald
@SuperSaiyanGuyver
@SuperSaiyanGuyver Жыл бұрын
@@Username-je7of Made me laugh but no.
@therealspeedwagon1451
@therealspeedwagon1451 Жыл бұрын
@@Username-je7of oddly enough I thought Oswald Mosley the British fascist even those are two entirely different time frames. Why my mind went there I don’t know.
@ashleydavis3318
@ashleydavis3318 Жыл бұрын
i assume the actual oswald is lee harvey, then
@erraticonteuse
@erraticonteuse Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite jokes on Mad Men was in 1968, Pete's mom, who had developed dementia by that point, woke him up in the middle of the night to tell him "Someone shot the Kennedy boy!" And he gets very exasperated telling her "That was five years ago!"
@technetium9653
@technetium9653 Жыл бұрын
You know what, Cody's right if big bird was chosen, the days, weeks or months to rig the shuttle to be able to fit him would've delayed it enough to not have exploded
@ThwipThwipBoom
@ThwipThwipBoom Жыл бұрын
tru
@sevencubed_
@sevencubed_ Жыл бұрын
fat bird butt saves six
@RealBillyFanword
@RealBillyFanword Жыл бұрын
Nice
@pizzasharkguy3807
@pizzasharkguy3807 Жыл бұрын
Good Ending: Big Bird Saves The Challenger
@notjebbutstillakerbal
@notjebbutstillakerbal Жыл бұрын
So if big bird was put aboard Challenger, it would have took enough time to stop the explosion as the temperature would have risen enough.
@Full_Throttle_Axolotl
@Full_Throttle_Axolotl Жыл бұрын
"If Big Bird had been on the Challenger, it probably wouldn't have exploded" In a very morbid way, I'm almost disappointed, but in an even more morbid way I find this even crazier, because it means we don't need to imagine the darker timeline, we *live* in it. We live in the timeline where, because NASA dropped the Big Bird idea and went with a school teacher instead, 7 people *fucking* *died*
@Attmay
@Attmay Жыл бұрын
It’s like the death of Chuckles the Clown on *The Mary Tyler Moore Show,* but for real.
@dropleaf8296
@dropleaf8296 Жыл бұрын
You're left alone at the end of the video with smooth jazz to realize that it wasn't just the teacher was being used, it killed her and everyone on board.
@jonathanwright8025
@jonathanwright8025 Жыл бұрын
I've been feeling we were living in the bad timeline for awhile now.
@FictionHubZA
@FictionHubZA Жыл бұрын
​@@jonathanwright8025Not the darkest but not the brightest either.
@haydennagy196
@haydennagy196 Жыл бұрын
This genuinely makes me wonder how nasa would’ve progressed after challenger! Would a different accident have occurred? Would safety continue to have stayed the same until something else happened forcing it to change??
@itzamia
@itzamia Жыл бұрын
I worked at a casino in Connecticut, and Caroll Spinney was a guest at a place in the casino called story time. He did his book signings throughout the day. When I walked by he was sitting on a bench right outside of the place and was having a casual conversation with a lady. When he talked to her, you can hear Big Birds voice. I wasn't allowed to talk to celebrities, but threw up the ole 🤘and he gave me the salute. I grew up watching that show. He was a great guy.
@invaliduser6431
@invaliduser6431 Жыл бұрын
My wife's artwork was on the shuttle. She was in one of the classes tasked with drawing stuff that was loaded onto the shuttle. She and her classmates watched it explode live.
@ihvojd
@ihvojd Жыл бұрын
Damn I’m incredibly sorry. I bet what they made was beautiful.
@rodsquad5764
@rodsquad5764 Жыл бұрын
It's now a Pollock.
@isabella-a-a-a
@isabella-a-a-a Жыл бұрын
Wow, I can’t imagine how traumatizing that may’ve been for some students. What was her experience of the whole ordeal? How did her teachers handle it?
@tammyd.970
@tammyd.970 Жыл бұрын
​@@isabella-a-a-a It was traumatizing for all students. All the schools and teachers made it a big deal. They wheeled out the TVs and we all sat around and watched the Challenger blow up live. You think any students on that day weren't traumatized? I don't think so. I guess it made us more prepared for 9/11. (which, strangely, i also saw happen on tv while working at my former high school.)
@VegasMilgauss
@VegasMilgauss Жыл бұрын
Sure it was Buddy.
@l1z4rdon7
@l1z4rdon7 Жыл бұрын
Imagine being in kindergarten watching Big Bird explode in a space rocket. That experience would be the emperor of childhood trauma right there.
@extraemail4961
@extraemail4961 Жыл бұрын
B-b-but, fried chicken!
@Starfleet8555
@Starfleet8555 Жыл бұрын
Agreed it would've been far worse than watching some teacher that a kid, most likely never met before. Don't get me wrong it's still absolutely tragic. But I'd have to admit the thought of Big Bird dying in big ball of flame made me crack up.
@downrighttt
@downrighttt Жыл бұрын
My entire town in a certain age range got to watch their teacher blow up. Literally every classroom in town was watching
@darthroden
@darthroden Жыл бұрын
Trust me, for an 80s kid it would have been Artax drowning in the Swamp of Sadness X 1000 level traumatic.
@bluemoon1115
@bluemoon1115 Жыл бұрын
I'm in tears at work just imagining that shit.😂😭
@Butter_Warrior99
@Butter_Warrior99 Жыл бұрын
I honestly love how deprarious the idea that Sesame Street would have to canonize the death of Big Bird in the show.
@gennybaratta2460
@gennybaratta2460 Жыл бұрын
I mean they did (very tastefully) canonize Mr. Hopper’s death so I could 10000% see them very delicately talk about Big Bird’s death
@waitithoughtihadtousemyrea5976
@waitithoughtihadtousemyrea5976 Жыл бұрын
It certainly would have made the show's lore more interesting.
@loneneotank.5687
@loneneotank.5687 Жыл бұрын
No no, he escaped the explosion and safely flew down.
@Copperkaiju
@Copperkaiju Жыл бұрын
"Deprarious"? That's a new word for me.
@GeneralJarrett1997
@GeneralJarrett1997 Жыл бұрын
@@Copperkaiju It's a good one for sure
@The_Joshuan_Empire
@The_Joshuan_Empire 17 күн бұрын
0:24 about this canidate, my mom's science teacher that she loved was the 2nd pick that if christa got sick or died or something else happened to where she couldn't go, they would go instead
@lucass5980
@lucass5980 Жыл бұрын
I know this is SUPPOSED to be an april fools video, but really think how much darker a lot of peoples childhoods would have been had this happened. Id even dare say due to the many communities here on youtube dedicated to talking about older/obscure/nostalgic content the Challenger Disaster would be a much more fresh event in the minds of many people.
@Oliviagarry69420
@Oliviagarry69420 Жыл бұрын
Like if it did happen a whole fucking generation of kids wouldn’t know who big bird was!!
@38tales
@38tales Жыл бұрын
I was one of those many children who were watching this live. It was a shocking thing as it was, if Big Bird had died in giant fireball I can't imagine a single kid there wouldn't have lost their minds.
@bananawitchcraft
@bananawitchcraft Жыл бұрын
So I guess we're saying kids care less about human lives, if the human in question isn't dressed as a familiar fictional character. Yeah that checks out.
@itsh7311
@itsh7311 Жыл бұрын
​@@bananawitchcraft *COULDN'T care less
@waitithoughtihadtousemyrea5976
@waitithoughtihadtousemyrea5976 Жыл бұрын
@@Oliviagarry69420 On the contrary, every child would know about the muppet who exploded on TV.
@sirunklydunk8861
@sirunklydunk8861 Жыл бұрын
Moral of the story: we need Big Bird to solve the world’s problems
@concept5631
@concept5631 Жыл бұрын
In Big Bird we trust.
@rodrikforrester6989
@rodrikforrester6989 Жыл бұрын
Bir Bird should've died for our sins.
@robertwillsea3338
@robertwillsea3338 Жыл бұрын
Big Bird is love, Big Bird is life
@charlieclark9552
@charlieclark9552 Жыл бұрын
And I believe those problems begin with you(the U.N.) call of duty was awesome imagine big bird giving that speech
@l.tc.5032
@l.tc.5032 Жыл бұрын
I think the moral is launch rockets in May.
@sgauden02
@sgauden02 Жыл бұрын
To be honest, if they actually went with Big Bird, modifying the shuttle to fit him would've resulted in delays that probably would've prevented the disaster.
@Thedarkportalshow
@Thedarkportalshow 9 ай бұрын
How the F do you modify the Shuttle?
@sgauden02
@sgauden02 9 ай бұрын
@@Thedarkportalshow As Alternate History Hub himself said in this video, "they sent men to the Moon with technology less advanced than a key fob. I'm sure those engineers could find a way to squeeze that fat bird into a seat."
@fleurpouvior2967
@fleurpouvior2967 6 ай бұрын
My dad was in the running to be the teacher on challenger. He made it through several rounds of the selection process. I'm not sure how far he got though. I know it wasn't the final rounds, but was farther than the first couple. He doesn't talk about it a lot, and was extra shook up about the whole thing. My uncle mentioned he was interested in space travel before that, but stopped even reading scifi all together after, and avoids space movies and media
@zillatattoo
@zillatattoo 15 күн бұрын
mine too.
@onerustydatsun951
@onerustydatsun951 Жыл бұрын
My brain pictured yellow feathers comically falling to earth after challenger exploded… and now I know I’m going to hell for laughing at the thought of it
@patricklaird264
@patricklaird264 Жыл бұрын
My image exactly
@judet2992
@judet2992 Жыл бұрын
Bruh same😅
@jtrocker9976
@jtrocker9976 Жыл бұрын
Bro I thought I was the only one!!!! 😂
@toatakanuva4846
@toatakanuva4846 Жыл бұрын
I’ll be seeing you there 😅
@godlikefish1193
@godlikefish1193 Жыл бұрын
Don't worry, we're all going to hell together 🤣
@NamelessGamer29
@NamelessGamer29 Жыл бұрын
I can only imagine if Big Bird died on the challenger what Elmo’s speech would’ve been like at the funeral.
@Tomneom
@Tomneom Жыл бұрын
😂
@stevemc01
@stevemc01 Жыл бұрын
Some BS about not giving him back the stick
@robertwillsea3338
@robertwillsea3338 Жыл бұрын
"Elmo would like to say that Big Bird was a good friend and loved his nest so much." Then Elmo reads Big Bird's favorite book. 2001: a Space Odyssey
@ATMAnubis
@ATMAnubis Жыл бұрын
Imagine if it had been Bert instead.
@paulhickie6974
@paulhickie6974 Жыл бұрын
@@ATMAnubis Thats why Ernie as butt plugs.
@kiartoons2010
@kiartoons2010 Жыл бұрын
Love how this becomes a GENUINE history video once they stop talking about Big Bird and ask "wait what did they want the launch on the 28th?" Great work.
@PuzzlingGoal
@PuzzlingGoal Жыл бұрын
Even before that this was a great video. An April fool's episode centered around the death of Big Bird could just be a lazy pile of jokes but instead it's talking about very real and possibly very significant effects it would have on the American public consciousness.
@deleetiusproductions3497
@deleetiusproductions3497 Жыл бұрын
@@PuzzlingGoal And it ultimately reaches a very serious conclusion: *Big Bird would have prevented the disaster.*
@ccvcharger
@ccvcharger Жыл бұрын
@@deleetiusproductions3497 Or postponed the disaster for another launch. If not the Challenger, which shuttle would've been the unlucky one? As someone else asked in another comment, would NASA have even taken the time to look into the problem if Challenger hadn't exploded?
@gohanr1271
@gohanr1271 Жыл бұрын
for some reason in 2013 when i was in 4th grade, my homeroom teacher started talking about this. granted, this disaster happened WAY before any of us were born and as 10 year olds we had never heard of this explosion that took 7 lives. but for some reason, the dude SHOWED IT TO US. like he was so shocked we hadn't seen it, he brought us all to the neighbouring classroom with the interactive projector screens, and showed it us. nobody really knew what they were looking at, I don't think my classmates got the gravity of what they had saw (thank god honestly), I had seen some shit in my life up to that point so *I* knew what I was looking at. at the moment I was honestly a bit disgusted and appalled at my classmates making jokes and going "that looks like a bunny rabbit'' -"no that looks like a race car" etc. when the video ended my teacher who, genuinely was a pretty chill guy, who was honestly one of my favourite teachers of all time and was my absolute favourite at that point kind of went off at the kids for not having the reaction he wanted them to have. talking about how disrespectful we were. i was still kind of brooding at the point and when he calmed down he noticed I was the only kid who looked somewhat serious at that point and when we locked eyes i kind of saw his face sadden for a bit, like the reality of what I was feeling had set into him -and he sort of realised what he did. went on about our day after that. granted this was in Australia, but from what I've observed I've seen a lot of Americans be like this about 9/11 -another national tragedy that was widely traumatic for those who witnessed it. and I can't help but make the comparison of my teacher, who was so upset at us making jokes about it, an event we couldn't possibly understand the scope of (most of us, I was not normal), because it happened decades before we were born. and because we didn't have the same reaction, because we weren't traumatised by it, we're met with indignation and outrage. at certain point, you can't expect us to feel 100% the same way. if you do, then the only course of action is to traumatise the newest generation so they can feel the same as the previous generation -that is intentionally causing intergenerational trauma at the expense of kids. at some point, let us laugh, and be insensitive, it's a sign things are getting better. idk why this video brought up this memory, i think going on about the preamble to the disaster awoke the slumbering memory in me lol.
@smileyface81mc77
@smileyface81mc77 8 ай бұрын
Hey, just wanted to say, I’m glad you made this comment, and can sort of empathize with your situation of adults expecting a stronger reaction to a horrible event. I was born a few months before 9/11, so I obviously don’t remember and couldn’t comprehend what was happening or what it meant for the country. In 2013, my sixth grade teacher did something similar: she showed us the footage of the planes hitting the towers, and while I knew I was watching a tragedy, I didn’t really have any sort of connection to it. It was just a weird, sad video. I feel like the teacher expected us to have some kind of super strong reaction, most adults here in the states expect it too, but how can we? In our minds, those buildings held no significance to us, we had always been at war in the Middle East in some way, shape or form, and TSA had always been super strict. Watching the footage wasn’t as traumatic as maybe the teacher expected, and she too got a little miffed at the underwhelming response, but I wasn’t watching the end of the world as I knew it like she was. I was just watching a video of a couple of skyscrapers exploding. It’s like someone who was born blind vs. someone who can see slowly going blind. The sighted person may feel angry because to them, it’s a harsh, unfair situation that greatly alters the way they live their life. To the person who’s always been blind, they don’t know anything else, so it’s just life to them. We’re not broken. We’re not sociopathic. We’re just younger and maybe traumatized in different ways.
@Man77772
@Man77772 2 ай бұрын
I remember in 3rd grade me and my homies were laughing at the Japanese tsunami. It was funny cause it was in 2x speed and looked goofy
@sonicultimateyt1090
@sonicultimateyt1090 15 күн бұрын
"dark humor is the way some people cope with tragedy" - Gelatin BFB 14
@Lee-hq6tf
@Lee-hq6tf Жыл бұрын
Well, given that putting "big bird" on the shuttle, would have required logistical considerations. Which might have caused yet another delay. It's possible that a decision in favor of big bird on the challenger, might have saved everyone's lives.
@snaketooth0943
@snaketooth0943 Жыл бұрын
What a strange world we live in where putting a man dressed as a bird being flown into space would've saved actual human lives.
@stevenroshni1228
@stevenroshni1228 Жыл бұрын
They planned in advance the logistics
@imEden0
@imEden0 Жыл бұрын
@@stevenroshni1228 but you’d have to spend more time figuring it out. They may have just sat him on a later flight and that specific flight of challenger would be delayed
@bentonrp
@bentonrp Жыл бұрын
Oh so u think it's all peachy keen huh? Well, I come from the alternate timeline where big bird was scheduled to go, and there were so many delays that the Soviets launched their pop character, Cheburashka, first. This led to a Soviet resurgence and jealousy that spurred a few pre-eminent attacks that caused a major war (not WW3, but it might as well have been). Not so confident now are you, sir?? 👽🧐
@dr.archaeopteryx5512
@dr.archaeopteryx5512 Жыл бұрын
@@bentonrp That's kinda funny considering the various 'firsts' the soviets made in space travel that basically nobody gave a shit about
@AbhNormal
@AbhNormal Жыл бұрын
"A tiny, evil part of me almost wishes that it happened, I mean it's just so indescribably absurd." - Sam O'Nella
@theomnissiah-9120
@theomnissiah-9120 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering when I’d see this
@bearwade9513
@bearwade9513 Жыл бұрын
I really wish he'd start making videos again! The how to ride a unicycle is one of my favorite videos ever, "you gotta use your taint as a fulcrum."
@Mephitinae
@Mephitinae Жыл бұрын
Some part of me wants to know how the damage control would have played out. Would they play it straight to the kids, make a special show explaining the man inside the suit died? Or would they incorporate it into the show's canon, insisting it was the yellow bird who died? What about the live coverage? What would they say? "This is a very sad day kids, but we here at NASA ensure that Big Bird did not feel pain. He died instantly, and now he's in heaven with Mr. Hooper."
@personperson.7744
@personperson.7744 Жыл бұрын
@@bearwade9513 he made one recently
@GustavoRubio
@GustavoRubio Жыл бұрын
​@@personperson.7744 sure, if you count 6 months ago recent
@user-bz3kd2mt3u
@user-bz3kd2mt3u Жыл бұрын
Actually a really good pop alt hist video: 1) Killer hook 2) Discusses a scenario everyone knows *of,* but doesn't know much about 3) Discusses the consequences of a change 4) Seamlessly starts diving in to the actual nuance of the history being discussed, tricking the user into learning more about history when they think they're watching useless entertainment 5) Uses the knowledge of history to provide a more insightful take than "haha wouldn't it be weird"
@akorn9943
@akorn9943 Жыл бұрын
I did not expect a very thoughtful and important story about bureaucracy literally killing people when I clicked on a video called “what if Big Bird exploded on the Challenger” but well here we are
@SniffHeinkel
@SniffHeinkel Жыл бұрын
Ironically, this is probably the most informative video about the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster that I have ever watched.
@will_from_pa
@will_from_pa Жыл бұрын
It’s actually really sad that big bird being there could’ve saved so much pain and grief
@leaderofnoone9087
@leaderofnoone9087 Жыл бұрын
Somehow this is correct, which makes me question the existence of NASA.
@Enyavar1
@Enyavar1 Жыл бұрын
Buuuut - if that muppet had saved Challenger, how much longer would the Shuttle program have gone on?
@will_from_pa
@will_from_pa Жыл бұрын
@@Enyavar1 probably until the actual disaster that finished the program: Columbia
@Kumimono
@Kumimono Жыл бұрын
@@will_from_pa Probably would not have happened, says butterfly flapping it's wings.
@SecondVelcory
@SecondVelcory Жыл бұрын
We'll never know for sure though. I mean there was no reason for NASA to play fast and loose with the first civilian in space either, so there's really no reason to assume that Big Bird wouldn't have ended up dying instead.
@justinmoe3171
@justinmoe3171 Жыл бұрын
Truly one of the alternate histories of all time
@Mardoxx7
@Mardoxx7 Жыл бұрын
One of the videos ever
@TheHonoredBacon
@TheHonoredBacon Жыл бұрын
certainly is one of them
@waffle6376
@waffle6376 Жыл бұрын
The Best one of all time
@haveawonderfulday5846
@haveawonderfulday5846 Жыл бұрын
So true
@HuffinStufff
@HuffinStufff Жыл бұрын
Yes
@patrickt7
@patrickt7 Жыл бұрын
A much anticipated video, can't wait for "What if Elmo died in the 1943 Battle of Kursk."
@justinbecause5939
@justinbecause5939 Жыл бұрын
Sure am looking forward to "What if Cookie Monster was involved in 1989 Romanian Revolution."
@L33Reacts
@L33Reacts Жыл бұрын
“What if Oscar the Grouch prevented Vietnam”
@yigitoz8387
@yigitoz8387 Жыл бұрын
@@L33Reacts like the existance of Vietnam? Did Oscar save French Indochina?
@penismightier9278
@penismightier9278 Жыл бұрын
@@yigitoz8387 No. The existence of the land that Vietnam currently occupies. That land just never existed. Where Vietnam is right now is just part of the South China Sea.
@1224chrisng
@1224chrisng Жыл бұрын
​@@penismightier9278 Oscar the Grouch went back to the Jurassic and killed trillions of shellfish exoskeletons
@Deadsphere
@Deadsphere 5 ай бұрын
"Elmo, these temperatures are the lowest we've ever had for a launch! Did you manage to run a quality check on the O-Rings around the right SRB?" "No."
@OtakuUnitedStudio
@OtakuUnitedStudio Жыл бұрын
Dang, that last line hits so freaking hard. But here's a corollary to that: even IF Big Bird had taught a lesson in space, people would have tuned in no matter what day the lesson might have been shown. The science teacher would have certainly been seen by most students in most schools at the time. But Big Bird? EVERYONE would be tuning in.
@kathrineici9811
@kathrineici9811 Жыл бұрын
I’m gonna be honest, when I was a kid I don’t think I would have cared that some random teacher I don’t know was doing whatever in space. Genuinely the explosion would have been the only thing of interest to me. I was a kid in the 2000s though and not the 80s so maybe they were less jaded back in ye olde times.
@MLBlue30
@MLBlue30 Жыл бұрын
​​@@kathrineici9811The 20th century was less jaded. We peaked in the 90s. I mean, just watch our movies. It was all fun, goofy stuff.
@morbidsearch
@morbidsearch Жыл бұрын
​@@MLBlue30 I love fun, goofy movies like Schindler's List
@carlosemilio5180
@carlosemilio5180 Жыл бұрын
​@@MLBlue30we peaked in 1511
@sentinel427
@sentinel427 Жыл бұрын
​@@carlosemilio5180we peaked in 12 BCE
@brgorham68
@brgorham68 Жыл бұрын
I remember watching this launch in my high school physics class. My teacher was actually a former NASA employee. He was in actual tears after the explosion happened. It's one of those generation defining moments, like the JFK assassination, or 9/11.
@honkhonk8009
@honkhonk8009 Жыл бұрын
or the "Thug Shaker" Pentagon Leaks
@mariotheundying
@mariotheundying Жыл бұрын
@@honkhonk8009 I think there's a major difference between people dying and some papers getting published 💀btw I know it's a joke but still
@connormclernon26
@connormclernon26 Жыл бұрын
@@mariotheundyingit’s entirely possible people are going to die as a result of those leaks. Gives Russia a better idea of Ukraine’s weaknesses, and thus where to push to get results
@harveywallbanger3123
@harveywallbanger3123 Жыл бұрын
The Shuttle was the high tech of my childhood but the actual airframe was compromised garbage, not nearly reliable enough for what they used it for. The reusable shuttle scheme demanded a much higher degree of attention to the turnaround rehab after each mission, and NASA simply wasn't up to snuff. They ran late and cut corners on literally every launch and nobody ever heard about it until it was too late. It was a product of Carter malaise that the program never recovered from, too much PR and fluff and promises made to Senators and schoolteachers instead of actual hard decisions about aeronautical capability, go or no go. "Go or no go" was scary in those days, it was uncool. After all was said and done, the shuttles had a mean failure rate like three times higher than the Apollo program. If Apollo had failed that much we never would have gotten to the moon, we'd have lost a dozen astronauts and Johnson would have pulled the plug.
@zillatattoo
@zillatattoo Жыл бұрын
ACTUALLY OMG!!! eyeroll
@JunkyardDigs
@JunkyardDigs Жыл бұрын
Came here for big bird, stayed for the history lesson
@Avi727
@Avi727 Жыл бұрын
Random JunkyardDigs sighting. Hello, Kevin.
@atombombapocolypse1984
@atombombapocolypse1984 Жыл бұрын
HEY KEVIN THIS IS RANDOM BUT I LOVE YALLS STUFF KEEP GOING STRONG
@noahhamilton9028
@noahhamilton9028 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t think I’d see you here man hope you’re having a good morning friend :) not much point in saying but cool videos by the way, you’ve built a pretty cool life for yourself and others with your channel.
@SueBobChicVid
@SueBobChicVid Жыл бұрын
I was tricked into learning something.
@justanormalpokemon4014
@justanormalpokemon4014 Жыл бұрын
me fr
@tectamk.thorne7837
@tectamk.thorne7837 8 ай бұрын
I misread the title as “What if big bird caused the challenger disaster”
@theguy1111
@theguy1111 6 ай бұрын
Your profile picture adds so much
@NickNembus
@NickNembus Жыл бұрын
Allan McDonald(director of the Space Shuttle Solid Rocket Motor Project for Morton-Thiokol, a NASA subcontractor) was the only sane one at NASA during the time. He yelled and pleaded with them to not launch because he and the other engineers knew it would explode in the first 10 secs in cold conditions they figured under 53F. They tried to get him to send approval papers for the launch and he refused, but they went over his head.
@guildwarrior3232
@guildwarrior3232 Жыл бұрын
Too little, too late, but I wish he had personally told the astronauts his concerns...
@artcasual99
@artcasual99 Жыл бұрын
Someone above you said Bob Ebeling (an engineer) raised concern about the O-rings but was ignored and he carried the guilt over those 7 deaths for years before being helped by the populace to release his guilt after an interview where he told his story a little while before his death.
@NickNembus
@NickNembus Жыл бұрын
@@artcasual99 Yeah there was many engineers at NASA concerned with the O-rings because of recent partial burned ones even the outer seal during previous flights in colder weather they nearly burned thru causing this disaster several times. After doing investigations all the engineers behind the booster determined if you launched under 53F where the rubber does not reform properly you risked a major explosion in less then a second.
@Low.quality.aviation
@Low.quality.aviation Жыл бұрын
Allan McDonald actually went to Montana State University, and MSU is in the city next to the one I live in. That being Bozeman, Mintana
@user-bz3kd2mt3u
@user-bz3kd2mt3u Жыл бұрын
How did people NOT get charged with murder
@jeremyanimatespoorly9573
@jeremyanimatespoorly9573 Жыл бұрын
Look up Bob Ebeling. He was one of the engineers who raised alarms over the weather conditions, the o-rings, etc. And nobody listened to him, despite him doing literally everything in his power to get them to. And then Challenger blew up and he proceeded to blame himself and carry that undeserved guilt for most of his life. IIRC, he did an interview on NPR and told his story a few years before he passed and the resulting support from listeners and the interviewer really helped him drop the guilt. He passed away a little while after that, finally free of the guilt and shame he never should've felt. Meanwhile that dumbass head of NASA failed upwards, likely without an ounce of regret or introspection.
@alarcon99
@alarcon99 Жыл бұрын
That’s usually what happens with those in charge wielding weaponized incompetence. I truly hope there’s a special place in hell for the likes of Graham
@amas7636
@amas7636 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather worked with Bob! I have actually met him; my grandfather was one of the engineers who warned NASA and had an experiment on microgravity on the shuttle.
@LadyTylerBioRodriguez
@LadyTylerBioRodriguez Жыл бұрын
There's a Netflix documentary on this. The guy not only failed upward, he literally said yeah I'd do it again if I had the choice. What an asshole.
@pierrebegley2746
@pierrebegley2746 Жыл бұрын
Wasn't his daughter on the Netflix documentary? His story was unbelievably tragic...
@LadyTylerBioRodriguez
@LadyTylerBioRodriguez Жыл бұрын
@@pierrebegley2746 Yes she was and it was absurdly tragic
@danielbishop1863
@danielbishop1863 Жыл бұрын
BTW, NASA did end up putting a teacher in space, sort of. Christa McAuliffe's backup was Barbara Morgan (then teaching at an elementary school in Idaho). After the Challenger disaster, she resumed her teaching career, but then in 1998, she quit in order to begin training as a full-time astronaut. She was scheduled for a flight in 2004, but it got cancelled because of the Columbia disaster. Finally, in August 2007, Morgan went into space on the STS-118 mission of Space Shuttle Endeavour. Unlike the ill-fated STS-51-L, STS-118 got little media fanfare, and Morgan did not teach a school lesson from space. The mission's Commander, Scott Kelly, just referred to her as "a crewmember who used to be a teacher".
@wasabiflavoredcocaine
@wasabiflavoredcocaine Жыл бұрын
Damn after two close calls with the space coffin, I wouldnt have gotten into that space shuttle
@cherriberri8373
@cherriberri8373 Жыл бұрын
@@wasabiflavoredcocaine 1 out of 65 is your chances of blowing up on the space shuttle, and there were easily a dozen VERY scary near misses. Meanwhile, the soyuz which has primarily been used to take astronauts and cosmonauts to the ISS, has the chances of roughly 1 in 1000. Disturbingly, the Falcon 9, Space X's rocket NASA uses frequently for the ISS, has a failure rate of 1 in 50. That is WORSE than the shuttle.
@ryanhodin5014
@ryanhodin5014 Жыл бұрын
@@cherriberri8373 How do you get 1 in 50 for the Falcon 9? It has launched 260 times and failed twice, that's 1 in 130. If you narrow it down to only the current iteration , the Block 5, there are 197 launches and zero failures. By comparison, the modern Soyuz-2 rocket has launched 163 times, and failed four times - that's about a 1 in 40 failure rate. Soyuz-FG, the predecessor that flew between 2001 and 2019, had 1 failure out of 70 flights. If we look at all Soyuz variants together, there's about 30 failures over about 1900 flights, which sounds pretty good, but it's also a 1 in 63 chance of failure, which is slightly worse than STS. If we only look at crewed flights, Dragon/Falcon has never lost a crew member, while Soyuz has had two fatal accidents - Soyuz 1 and Soyuz 11 (though it's been a while, and I'm willing to give modern variants a 100% safety rate, even if unlike Dragon there have been some safety-endangering incidents).
@infinitespace2520
@infinitespace2520 Жыл бұрын
@@cherriberri8373 Wrong, the Falcon 9 Block 5 which is the one that is crew certified and has launched the crewed missions to the ISS hasn't failed once, only having a single landing failure (which was during a satelite launch, and the landing operation doesn't count as part of the launch itself). This means it has a 100% success rate, making it one of, if not the safest crew launch vehicle ever made.
@goldenfloof5469
@goldenfloof5469 Жыл бұрын
@@cherriberri8373 Falcon 9 has about 250 successful launches in a row so far. 273/275, with the last failure happening over 7 years ago. It's literally the most reliable rocket ever. The booster landings, are now more reliable than any rocket ever, save the falcon 9 itself.
@Sherbert1118
@Sherbert1118 11 ай бұрын
Fun fact: The teacher in space program did actually inspire a kid to get into the STEM field… That kid was me, i learned about the challenger explosion and i went “i want to make sure this never happens again.” I now study Astrophysics, Astronomy, and i’ve built Model rockets using motors, a 3d printer, and a cardboard tube. Hey, its not much, but is a great start. Now, when i grow up, i wish that i achieve my whole goal, and im actively working towards it. What do i want to be? Heres 3 choices. - Astronomer - Rocket Scientist - Astronaut Now, if i do achieve any of my goals, i want to work my way to the others, i love space, i’ll always love space. And this, The Challenger, empowers me to make sure to make incidents less common, less likely to happen, while there will always be tragedies in the world, its our job to stop it from happening often, to learn about our mistakes, and improve, thats what i want to do.
@Sir_Pie
@Sir_Pie 11 ай бұрын
You're going places
@zacharynguyen7286
@zacharynguyen7286 6 ай бұрын
You’re an inspiration
@Hello-pv1xw
@Hello-pv1xw 4 ай бұрын
Gigachad
@argiemeneses3387
@argiemeneses3387 4 ай бұрын
This is like a f**king anime backstory
@concept5631
@concept5631 4 ай бұрын
If what you say is true, you're a hero man
@evantallant1437
@evantallant1437 Жыл бұрын
Doing a deeper dive into the Challenger disaster is really troubling for me because, as Cody said, you lose a lot of respect for NASA when you learn how they (and the government) truly operated when it came to huge events like this. It also hurts because I was also a kid who used to idolize astronauts and the shuttle program, but once you examine it without nostalgia and the rose-colored glasses, it feels like a huge part of your childhood and who you used to be as a kid is kinda torn apart.
@WasatchWind
@WasatchWind Жыл бұрын
If it helps, NASA and the spaceflight world as a whole has become far more safe (not Russia though). NASA kept a keen eye on everything when they were developing the commercial crew program, and when you watch Crew Dragon launch people to space today, it is a well oiled machine, where everything looks a lot simpler and more reliable. Crew Dragon can get people away from an explosion, on the pad or in flight very easily, while such a capability was never really developed for the shuttle. Other spacecraft coming in the future, like the Boeing Starliner, Dreamchaser spaceplane, and others, are similarly a lot more safe. I am, unfortunately with the statistics of reality, sure that we will have more people die in pursuit of space, but it will be much smaller, especially as we get way more people into space than ever before, and the reliability of that will help safety. A very optimistic, successful mission flew in 2021, called Inspiration4, where SpaceX flew it completely on their own without NASA involvement, making it the first all civilian spaceflight. I feel like it carried the spirit of what the teacher in space program original aspired to, making the mission a fundraising event for St Jude children's hospital. One of the people on the flight, Hayley Arceneaux, had been a cancer patient at the hospital as a child, who recovered, returned to work there as an adult, and became the first person to go into space with a prosthetic (an artificial bone), which would have been an instant no if she'd applied as a NASA astronaut. It was a very inspiring mission, where three regular people got to go to space. I highly recommend looking up footage of the mission, or its netflix documentary "Countdown: Inspiration4 mission to space."
@vrrooooommmm123
@vrrooooommmm123 Жыл бұрын
Can you please explain?
@niffirg1113
@niffirg1113 Жыл бұрын
soyuz is considered one of the safest human space vehicles in the world, NASA didnt design the falcon 9 or crew dragon, LES has existed since the earliest human space vehicles its nothing new.
@WasatchWind
@WasatchWind Жыл бұрын
@@niffirg1113 I never said that NASA designed crew dragon, they were very involved in helping SpaceX's work on the capsule, however. And in regards to Soyuz... Yes, Soyuz has a reliable record, but all the recent coolant leaks are very concerning.
@biggestfan.
@biggestfan. Жыл бұрын
Problem is that the power a career politician wields is only sought by those that wish to manipulate said power. No one in their right mind seeks a lifetime of bureaucracy, only a person not sane of mind.
@LadyTylerBioRodriguez
@LadyTylerBioRodriguez Жыл бұрын
I must add that John Denver was almost on Challenger at one point. Imagine the horrors of Big Bird and John Denver blowing up. The world would never recover.
@funnelvortex7722
@funnelvortex7722 Жыл бұрын
John Denver never really did have any luck with flying machines now did he?
@LadyTylerBioRodriguez
@LadyTylerBioRodriguez Жыл бұрын
@@funnelvortex7722 Its like Final Destination. He lucked out one day but the Reaper didn't forget...
@JacobHillSBD
@JacobHillSBD Жыл бұрын
Given how integral John Denver was to the history of The Muppets either one would’ve been a very dark day at the Jim Henson Company.
@mollof7893
@mollof7893 Жыл бұрын
Lmao who
@Zarvanis
@Zarvanis Жыл бұрын
@@mollof7893 According to the internet, the guy who sang "Take Me Home, Country Roads". I was a toddler in 1997 when he died, and he clearly didn't leave enough of an impact that his name remained in the cultural zeitgeist like Elvis or Freddie Mercury, so I had also never heard of him until today.
@sorio99
@sorio99 Жыл бұрын
This video is like 1/3 exploring the hypothetical, 2/3 “How did the Challenger disaster even happen?”
@a_wazza
@a_wazza 8 ай бұрын
I'm just reading the comments ngl
@felixw19
@felixw19 4 ай бұрын
Tbf most recent videos on this channel are structured like that.
@rootbourne4454
@rootbourne4454 3 ай бұрын
Honestly real history is interesting enough that I’m ok with that
@ccvcharger
@ccvcharger Жыл бұрын
I really like how you lured us in with a seemingly absurd premise, just to make us think about why the launch had to happen on Jan 28.
@tonyyoung8477
@tonyyoung8477 Жыл бұрын
Truly, the alternate history episode I have waited my entire life for.
@waffle6376
@waffle6376 Жыл бұрын
fr
@concept5631
@concept5631 Жыл бұрын
We've all been waiting for.
@HuffinStufff
@HuffinStufff Жыл бұрын
I didn’t know I needed it but it turns out I’ve been missing this my entire life.
@jaredhansen5364
@jaredhansen5364 Жыл бұрын
Right? 10/10
@JavaScrapper
@JavaScrapper Жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for years
@NateYet
@NateYet Жыл бұрын
I live out near where Christa McAuliffe is buried and actually visited just yesterday coincidentally. Having family that had her as a teacher, the challenger disaster has an interesting place in my life.
@Blazzes1001
@Blazzes1001 Жыл бұрын
At least Big Bird is still with us
@therealspeedwagon1451
@therealspeedwagon1451 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t she buried in Arlington? The most hallowed ground in America where honored soldiers are buried? I know for certain the crew of Columbia are buried there, but is she there too?
@Alfonso162008
@Alfonso162008 Жыл бұрын
​@свевский if I had to guess, I'd say just an empty coffin, or maybe something belonging to her, more symbolic than anything else. Unless some part of her somehow survived intact enough and identifiable enough to be buried, so in that case probably that.
@NateYet
@NateYet Жыл бұрын
@@therealspeedwagon1451 no, she was buried in concord NH. Though if I'm not mistaken, I think I heard there is an honorary gravesite/monument out near or in Arlington
@Copperkaiju
@Copperkaiju Жыл бұрын
​@@lazarusglue Wikipedia is great for comic books and stuff but it gets things wrong sometimes. Like with musician bios for example. Take it with a grain of salt.
@GeorgeCowsert
@GeorgeCowsert 10 ай бұрын
Imagine the Sesame Street episode where Kermit is giving a lesson to all the other grieving muppets, telling them how "the world is cruel. That is why we need to be kind." A genuine heartfelt lesson could be taught to millions of children who grew up in the peace and luxury of America at its peak. Maybe then, we would be wiser about our current political landscape.
@Brian0045
@Brian0045 Жыл бұрын
Sad fact, Morton Thiokol (the company that built the SRB's) engineer Roger Boisjoly was literally screaming during the "go no go" meting with NASA and systems engineers before the launch saying if they launched the crew would be killed and was overridden by his superiors under pressure from NASA. He and his fellow engineers expected the explosion to happen on the launch pad, so for a couple of minutes they thought they had dodged a bullet that day.
@VisualXploration
@VisualXploration Жыл бұрын
Crazy
@amh9494
@amh9494 Жыл бұрын
Lmao the USA doesn't remotely live up to its marketing.
@lesigh3410
@lesigh3410 Жыл бұрын
@@amh9494 as an American it really does not
@wwiiinplastic4712
@wwiiinplastic4712 Жыл бұрын
I had an uncle-in-law who worked at M-T's Orlando office at the time. I was in college at UF, studying Astronomy of all things.
@customsongmaker
@customsongmaker Жыл бұрын
​@@amh9494Compared to which other country's space program?
@VillagerMan2006
@VillagerMan2006 Жыл бұрын
I feel like had Big Bird been destroyed, Sesame Street as a whole would end with it. Remember that at the time, Big Bird was not only the show’s most popular character, he was the lifeline. Such a massive loss would have pulled the plug on the show. In our timeline, the only character that came close to Big Bird’s popularity is Elmo. But this was only true around the mid-late 90s. At the time of Challenger, Elmo was still unpopular, not to mention that Kevin Clash, who succeeded the muppet after Richard Hunt and Brian Muehl was still new. Oscar, Barkley and Telly Monster were closest to Big Bird in terms of popularity.
@LivingBattery
@LivingBattery Жыл бұрын
Barkley?! No. This is Grover erasure and I will not stand for it.
@TacomasterStudios
@TacomasterStudios Жыл бұрын
barkley? Telly? Where are grover and cookie monster
@Derivedwhale45
@Derivedwhale45 Жыл бұрын
I think Episode 847 have it not been pulled would've kill off Sesame Street forever much eariler than the Challenger incident because have PBS were ignoring the parents complaint about said episode n didn't give in to the complaints especially since some of their notes involving shooting up the whole studio, alot of people would've been killed at that point that the show cancelation would not been covered by the media at all & everything related to SS would've been swept under the rug forgotten forever & the only way people might have known about Sesame full cancelation is from the mouth of survivors of said attack about the awful reason for the end of Sesame Street forever on random forums that nobody will find. It almost happened bud really, it almost happened n could've went down the path I described have they not pulled episode 847. THAT would've been the end of SS forever have the parents shoot up the studio that was owned by Sesame I guarantee ya that
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish Жыл бұрын
@@Derivedwhale45 But it DID air, it was just pulled from reruns.
@bikecaptain8015
@bikecaptain8015 Жыл бұрын
​@@TacomasterStudios snuffalupagus too. Who in their right mind liked telly more than snuffalupagus?
@yungspaghetti
@yungspaghetti Жыл бұрын
My parents both were coincidentally home from their high schools when the disaster happened. But, my mother told me that when she was staying in a hotel in DC for a school trip, her and her friends had a lovely chat with one of the teachers who was competing for that spot on the Challenger. It turned out to be Christa McAuliffe because she recognized her hair and her face when she saw it on the news.
@SIGNOR-G
@SIGNOR-G Жыл бұрын
Your profile pic is...interesting
@tendrilartist3609
@tendrilartist3609 Жыл бұрын
@@SIGNOR-G reimu watermelon
@rootbeerguy690
@rootbeerguy690 Жыл бұрын
Wow, can't imagine what your mother must have felt after seeing that unfold
@shawnathin7450
@shawnathin7450 Жыл бұрын
Here’s a sad thing I was home from school that day to because I live in Canada and they said it was to cold outside like -40 so knowing the weather jet spring it was to cold for them to but NASA didn’t care about the people just about how they look.
@emilyr3175
@emilyr3175 2 ай бұрын
“I guess my point here is, and the point of this whole video, is that if Big Bird had been on the Challenger instead, it wouldn’t have exploded.” crazy ass statement
@amas7636
@amas7636 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather was one of the group of engineers that tried to warn Mission Control not to launch because the O-Rings were not stable. He had an experiment focusing on microgravity that was on the shuttle. Really sad what happened and that they never listened.
@shonenjumpmagneto
@shonenjumpmagneto Жыл бұрын
Lol, nerd.
@harveywallbanger3123
@harveywallbanger3123 Жыл бұрын
The whole shuttle program was a lame donkey that was being flogged up a hill by a team of Senators because Jimmy Carter needed a jobs program to keep NASA from experiencing fatal brain drain in the 70s when the country was deep in malaise. It was too flashy, too ambitious, and designed 110% by Congressional committee. They promised this reusable vehicle that would enable 10x the orbital missions at only 2x the cost relative to Apollo capsules, and could be rehabbed and turned around for a new launch in a matter of weeks. Problem is it wasn't reliable. It had constant problems. The contractors weren't properly supervised. Nobody had the stones to crack down on anything. "Failure is not an option" as an emergency management ethos became a PR ethos instead - "We must launch on time, or the journalists and the Senators will be angry." This is toxic and deadly in any kind of air operations. It was allowed to persist because NASA culture had been structured to allow for dingbats with "vision" that lived in government contracts and not in reality. Now Elon Musk, a private individual, has built a Buck Rogers rocket that is more capable than anything NASA has conceived since Apollo. They ought to just abolish NASA these days, it's a waste of money.
@snakewithapen5489
@snakewithapen5489 Жыл бұрын
@Quincy Arbalest Hell let's just not do space travel at all anymore, because that secondary option doesn't seem any safer or more trustworthy
@gwendolynstata3775
@gwendolynstata3775 Жыл бұрын
​@@harveywallbanger3123Elon Musk didn't build shit, he just threw money at people who could.
@Bessux
@Bessux Жыл бұрын
Yeah, my uncle worked at NASA and told them big ship go boom, too. Sadly, they didn't listen to my uncle and big ship did go boom.
@OfficialCyaned
@OfficialCyaned Жыл бұрын
Oh God, I actually learned this fact from a Sam'O Nella video. Imagine a timeline where this actually happened, how scarring.
@waffle6376
@waffle6376 Жыл бұрын
It would of been more traumatize to every child
@androzani
@androzani Жыл бұрын
@@waffle6376 Unless it didn't happen.
@MalcolmIIofCaledonia
@MalcolmIIofCaledonia Жыл бұрын
Trying to imagine Sam reading the script of this video (out loud)
@androzani
@androzani Жыл бұрын
@@MalcolmIIofCaledonia "Woah wait, you're a historian in Alternative actions and this the dribble you give me? ... I like it, you do you."
@Catfishuwu
@Catfishuwu Жыл бұрын
We must get this done
@BigBoiiLeem
@BigBoiiLeem Жыл бұрын
Some good news to add to this really sad and kinda sh*t story: the teacher who was the backup for Christa McAuliffe *did* end up going into space in the end. She went on the ISS in the mid-2000s, and finally realised Christa's dream of teaching live from space.
@Ambibsopmop
@Ambibsopmop 3 ай бұрын
0:53 props to that guy calmly listing off the coordinates of the crashing airline
@JuanTonSoupXP
@JuanTonSoupXP Жыл бұрын
This question has kept me up at night for decades. Finally, I can have the answer to my inner turmoil.
@concept5631
@concept5631 Жыл бұрын
I am glad you have been enlightened.
@big_sea
@big_sea Жыл бұрын
yes
@waitithoughtihadtousemyrea5976
@waitithoughtihadtousemyrea5976 Жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite alternate history subjects, both because of the absurdity and how close it came to really happening.
@dimitrescu182
@dimitrescu182 Жыл бұрын
It sounds like a South Park episode.
@mysticmystery7300
@mysticmystery7300 Жыл бұрын
@@dimitrescu182 kinda...
@RAAM855
@RAAM855 Жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: 2 years after Challenger. Atlantis had the exact same type of incident that killed the Columbia crew in 2003. In fact the Astronauts even saw this on the camera while in orbit. However the entire Mission was a classified mission to send a Spy Satellite for the CIA. When mission control was confronted with the danger, they straight up ignored them and told the Astronauts to proceed. The Astronauts legit though 100% they were going to die and the captain even planned to cus out mission control if something went wrong in reentry. Miraculous unlike Columbia, the piece of foam that took a larger chunk from the shuttle than that of the 2003 mission Hit a spot that wasn't as vital and they survived and the crew even noted that they saw the material on their plane disintegrate. What did NASA do after the mission? Nothing. They just brushed it off and that's why 15 years later Columbia happened. Imagine the absolute PR nightmare for NASA and the Raegan administration if only 2 years right after Challenger. Another Shuttle disaster happened.
@Melonist
@Melonist Жыл бұрын
Dear god
@andrasbiro3007
@andrasbiro3007 Жыл бұрын
Same thing with the Challenger. Another similar incident with the O-rings happened earlier and only dumb luck saved that shuttle. The easy solution was to not launch in cold weather. Later they found out why it was the Challenger that blew up and not the other one. Turns out the burning fuel creates a lot of soot that plugs the hole that the too rigid O-ring creates, so there's no leak and no explosion. But the Challenger met very strong cross wind that shook it just enough to dislodge the soot plug. That's why the trail of the shuttle seems to turn 90 degrees just before the explosion.
@stevenroshni1228
@stevenroshni1228 Жыл бұрын
There's a saying that aviation regulations are written in blood. Very many we came very close to tragedy, we should probably fix it, have been ignored.
@imEden0
@imEden0 Жыл бұрын
One reason is because they had to send low quality photos back to ground since it was encrypted. Engineers thought they were shadows.
@kirkkerman
@kirkkerman Жыл бұрын
The Challenger Accident was kind of a fluke, that specific failure may have only been possible on STS-51L. The Columbia Accident, on the other hand, was *going* to happen ever since the moment the space shutt'e's design configuration had been approved...
@LudicrousH
@LudicrousH Жыл бұрын
Dude amazing video. Very engaging/informative the whole way through and a solid ending haha.
@littykitty040
@littykitty040 Жыл бұрын
"Oh no thanks, I'm on my way to space!!!" I died, just like Big Bird would
@ban1kam
@ban1kam Жыл бұрын
Can you edit a time stamp to that moment
@ryanbauer3680
@ryanbauer3680 Жыл бұрын
1:22 Also its not; "Oh no thanks, I'm on my way to space!!!" Its; "Oh no thanks, I'm on my way to-sSpACe!!!"
@Stephanie-uk8be
@Stephanie-uk8be Жыл бұрын
Hearing Tim Curry's voice coming out of Big Birds mouth caused a profound amount of cognitive dissonance lol I also choked on my water XD
@Attmay
@Attmay Жыл бұрын
You make it sound like he’s Trippin balls.
@Attmay
@Attmay Жыл бұрын
At least he’ll be embalmed with 11 herbs and spices!
@kurtsteinert7569
@kurtsteinert7569 Жыл бұрын
A little factoid about the launch. Grey Jarvis had completed a Master's degree from West Coast University and the diploma was on board and was to be awarded to him in orbit. The diploma was found in the debris and was returned to West Coast University.
@rjrowley3887
@rjrowley3887 Жыл бұрын
Jeez that's is sad
@judet2992
@judet2992 Жыл бұрын
Wat. That is…uunnngghhh
@mangrove
@mangrove Жыл бұрын
Ellison Onizuka brought a soccer ball from a school soccer team that he had coached. The ball was recovered, and eventually brough tup to space in 2016.
@adg9042
@adg9042 Жыл бұрын
@@mangrove why would they bring it to space that’s like the worst place it could possibly be
@logandunlap9156
@logandunlap9156 Жыл бұрын
couldn’t give it to his family or something? that’s actually more fucked up than the fact that he died, they just took his shit because he was dead
@SkylightCiel
@SkylightCiel Жыл бұрын
Would love to see the alternate timeline where Big Bird did blow up and they had to make a Sesame Street episode canonically acknowledging he died.
@Attmay
@Attmay Жыл бұрын
Sesame Street has been brought to you today by the letters RIP.
@bellyfries6891
@bellyfries6891 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think they would kill off such a beloved character, like another comment I saw, he would probably fall out of the sky and would be cleaning the dust off his body
@TheUplinkExperiment
@TheUplinkExperiment Жыл бұрын
@@bellyfries6891 The thing is you'd have to take into account the family and friends of everyone at actually died on the Challenger. Having big bird just survive, with the comedic explanation or not. Is going to come off as pretty rude to those people since they had to witness their friends or family die in a rocket accident and now some kids show with puppets is making light of it pretty much.
@modernmajorgeneral4669
@modernmajorgeneral4669 Жыл бұрын
I mean, Sesame Street has been known to deal with very serious and weighty topics, and I think it would be really hard not only to explain how Big Bird survived, but it would also be hard on the cast and writers to not feel like jerks as they were doing so.
@aprinnyonbreak1290
@aprinnyonbreak1290 Жыл бұрын
They would almost assuredly have him die canonically. They might have replaced him with his brother, Large Toucan going forwards or something, but Sesame Street has usually done good about acknowledging sad things and pain, modeling appropriate responses, and usually avoiding show status quo type cynicism. At most, he'd survive the fall, but be seriously injured and spend a while getting better.
@MCDreng
@MCDreng 8 ай бұрын
I hadn't heard of the part where the teacher was going to give a lesson. That sadly makes a lot of sense for why they forced the launch to be on Tuesday instead of wait. I feel like people would have still tuned in to watch her on a Saturday, but I guess the optics of a teacher teaching in schools from space was too good to pass up.
@michaelfutch2598
@michaelfutch2598 Жыл бұрын
Horribly dating myself. I remember Mr Hooper's store being run by Mr Hooper and his death. Looking back on it, this was handled excellently. It acknowledged both the actor and character's death. It validated the sorrow the other characters and the children watching felt. Henson brilliantly dealt with the subject of death in a way that his audience, who mostly were experiencing their first awareness of death, in a healthy age appropriate way. Had Big Bird died on the Challenger, I have no doubt Henson would have addressed this in the show similarly.
@LizLuvsCupcakes
@LizLuvsCupcakes Жыл бұрын
if anyone could have handled this tastefully and helped kids understand what happened, it would’ve been Jim Henson.
@JoeApplebrook
@JoeApplebrook 10 ай бұрын
I think they sorta retooled that scene’s script for the scene where Elmo’s dad told him his uncle died
@intellectually_lazy
@intellectually_lazy 7 ай бұрын
@@LizLuvsCupcakes we got a very special ep of punky brewster, lmao
@shoggothsirloin
@shoggothsirloin 12 күн бұрын
I’m dating myself too and yeah it’s horrible :/
@StraightestDakregor
@StraightestDakregor Жыл бұрын
I know it's funny how Cody said muppets are people, but in all seriousness, they sort of are. Not just because of the necessary skills to bring the character to life as he said, but more often than not, even if you have the person tamper with the puppet right in front of you, people _still_ prioritize the puppet over the human. Multiple interviewers incorrectly give the microphone to the puppet instead of the voice actor, they look at the puppet as they talk and not the person, it's a "phenomenon" that multiple puppeteers have experienced.
@CrypticCharm
@CrypticCharm Жыл бұрын
that is so true, i know someone who was in a production of Avenue Q, playing Trekkie, and when he came out, for his final bow with his performance partner, people were confused about who he was. he had spent two hours+ on stage, and no one ever saw him!
@Robb1977
@Robb1977 Жыл бұрын
I imagine its the sort of thing where people might say "hey did you know Indiana jones was in... wait, sorry i mean harrison ford..." The character comes first in their mind because thats the part they actually know. The human behind it becomes secondary.
@panqueque445
@panqueque445 Жыл бұрын
Out of ALL the Sesame Street characters they could've chosen, they chose the giant one.
@therealspeedwagon1451
@therealspeedwagon1451 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if it was Elmo instead, the most iconic character of all time.
@greenoftreeblackofblue6625
@greenoftreeblackofblue6625 Жыл бұрын
​@@therealspeedwagon1451The only reason it wasn't elmo is because Big Bird was more popular at the time.
@dsadgegdsg4740
@dsadgegdsg4740 Жыл бұрын
NASA approached Ernie first but he would only agree to spending no more than one afternoon in space
@midnighthope7752
@midnighthope7752 Жыл бұрын
​@@dsadgegdsg4740 you say that as a joke but I'd like to remind you that Ernie was originally performed by Jim Henson himself and if that went through oh god oh jesus
@ATMAnubis
@ATMAnubis Жыл бұрын
Imagine a Challenger crew of Ernie and Bert, Oscar, Telly, and Cookie Monster: Ernie touches things he's not supposed to, Commander Bert constantly yells at Ernie, Oscar bitches and complains, Telly has a freak-out, and Cookie Monster wants cookie on the moon. With this crew, the Challenger would never get off the ground.
@DrZomboss01
@DrZomboss01 7 ай бұрын
I missread the title and thought it was actually "What if Big Bird blew up the challenger?" 💀
@LabRat8899
@LabRat8899 Жыл бұрын
My mom’s middle school science teacher actually almost made it on the Challenger. He was a finalist, but he and his wife just had a baby so he didn’t go. But I completely forgot about the plan to let big bird on the challenger.
@jugginator2.068
@jugginator2.068 Жыл бұрын
My mom's science teacher from HS had the opportunity to go, but thankfully his wife begged him not to go. How chilling that day must've been especially for he and his wife
@thetoughunicorn1679
@thetoughunicorn1679 Жыл бұрын
Wow
@Patodeagua213
@Patodeagua213 Жыл бұрын
Wow
@boomboom-wn9jm
@boomboom-wn9jm Жыл бұрын
🧢
@SomeRobIoxDude
@SomeRobIoxDude Жыл бұрын
Wow
@Elephant56565
@Elephant56565 Жыл бұрын
​@@boomboom-wn9jm no
@Simphd
@Simphd Жыл бұрын
Now this is the content I’m subscribed for.
@waffle6376
@waffle6376 Жыл бұрын
fr
@gamerzlog6963
@gamerzlog6963 Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@koisnotreal
@koisnotreal Ай бұрын
Something crazy about this project, my middle school english teacher in sixth grade was one of the students of Christa McAuliffe. She told us in class about when it happened. She was particularly close to her and watched it all happen, and left the school immediately and walked home crying.
@klutzysole9569
@klutzysole9569 Жыл бұрын
Hey, just a piece of information regarding O-Rings since you seemed a little confused about them. They are commonly used seals in mechanical engineering. I am a mechanic on the KC 135, and we use O-Rings in a few places to seal grease, hydro, and oil in their proper systems so that they can keep running smoothly or so they don't corrode the rest of the systems around them. They often times break or get knocked loose.
@robertbrazier5097
@robertbrazier5097 Жыл бұрын
The KC-135 is an intimidating plane to fly behind whilst refuelling. Must be interesting maintaining that 60 year old aircraft. (Not a real pilot, just a DCS pilot)
@klutzysole9569
@klutzysole9569 Жыл бұрын
@Robert Brazier it's fun to maintain but at the same time it is a piece of shit and certain numbers are always a headache to fix or send up on missions
@noahjackl2240
@noahjackl2240 Жыл бұрын
I work in water tank manufacturing and we use O-rings in evvvvvvverything. Multiple O-rings in the tanks, connecting parts, tools we use to hold the tanks, robots, tanks that pressure test the tanks. So many O-rings
@jpriedy
@jpriedy Жыл бұрын
So are they basically rubber gaskets?
@samuel010898
@samuel010898 Жыл бұрын
@@jpriedy I want to disagree, but that’s basically correct. The rings on an SRB have little in common with the seals these guys are talking about, but it is in fact made of EDPM rubber and functions as an enormous gasket between the main sections of the SRB
@zachjohnson9674
@zachjohnson9674 Жыл бұрын
I find that videos on these smaller, more “obscure” what-ifs are often the most compelling. I’d love to see more of these.
@wulf37
@wulf37 Жыл бұрын
Having worked at the place that made those srbs and talking to people who were there at the time, the main feeling I got was deep anger, sadness, and regret. It is really such a tragedy that something so preventable took the lives of some amazing people.
@judet2992
@judet2992 Жыл бұрын
Wait you worked at the SRB plant? Neat. Sorry to hear that it affected you like that, but you definitely had a cool job, even if it was just on the assemble line.
@neuronoc.7343
@neuronoc.7343 3 ай бұрын
The mental image of David Clark Company tailors scrambling to turn the *Big Bird* costume into a working flight suit for Caroll Spinney to wear as the character and accidentally preventing Challenger from ripping itself apart KSP style is both hilarious and harrowing.
@thedarkduchess7556
@thedarkduchess7556 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video. I've never cried laughing so hard in my entire life. The idea that hundreds of millions, if not over a billion given how famous the muppets are, could've watched big bird reduced to cinders via massive rocket explosion is one of the funniest things I've ever heard in my life. Elmo would've delivered a eulogy along with all the other sesame street characters at Big Bird's funeral. Life would carry on with every human knowing that the United States Government blew up one of the most iconic characters of all time. A character known for how sweet, kind, and friendly they were; a friend to all gone out in a blaze of glory. It's unimaginable how much that would influence the mindsets of everyone around the world. The ripples of every child in the western world watch big bird get blown up would change life as we know it. It would mark the beginning of a new era of humanity due to the US government murdering a muppet. Thank you so much AlternateHistoryHub for making this amazing video, you've truly done the world a great service
@N3therWolf
@N3therWolf Жыл бұрын
So much words for telling us you are autistic
@icat0753
@icat0753 Жыл бұрын
I could see about being written in this timeline called: BIG BIRD: BLAZE OF GLORY what actually happened during the infamous challenger incident?
@josepsamarrafarre
@josepsamarrafarre Жыл бұрын
@@icat0753 I think another title from that timeline would be FRIED CHICKEN: A MUPPET TRAGEDY
@doctorecho3007
@doctorecho3007 Жыл бұрын
I’m so awful for this, but this just has dying of laughter just picturing it all in my head.
@LaceNWhisky
@LaceNWhisky Жыл бұрын
If they had actually gone through with sending Big Bird into space instead of a teacher, I could see an argument for dressing up one of their trained astronauts as Big Bird instead of sending up the actual actor, then having his lines either prerecorded or voiced-over. And when the Challenger blew up, they could have announced Big Bird survived somehow. Would have maybe been less traumatic for the kids, although the publicity would still be a nightmare.
@user-kw7mr6xt9n
@user-kw7mr6xt9n Жыл бұрын
The idea of a NASA astronaut having to go through training to perform a muppet up to the expected standards to make the lipsync and movements look passable is very funny to me
@iprobablysuck9107
@iprobablysuck9107 Жыл бұрын
It’s very “Armageddon” in a way. Is it easier to train a muppeteer to be an astronaut, or the other way around?
@ez_company9325
@ez_company9325 Жыл бұрын
@@iprobablysuck9107 thats a good point.... the whole premise of that movie is wack really.... you gotta imagine our best and brightest astronauts would find it easier to train to drill than it would be vice versa.
@mariotheundying
@mariotheundying Жыл бұрын
For some reason this scenario is f'd up, guy in costume dies, "dw guys big Bird is alive, idk where this dead body came from tho, that's weird"
@homestuckfan8844
@homestuckfan8844 Жыл бұрын
Somehow Big bird returned…
@elizatoponce9375
@elizatoponce9375 Жыл бұрын
I remember in my sixth grade math class my teacher describing the challenger disaster in detail, saying it was people getting their math wrong that caused it, and telling us if we couldn’t get the questions on our homework correct we could cause a disaster just like it. Boy did that freak me out as an eleven year old.
@connormclernon26
@connormclernon26 7 ай бұрын
I mean, the engineers knew it was fucked, the problem was the idiot in charge, William Graham, chose to launch even when the engineers were telling him not to
@Marcus-nn6js
@Marcus-nn6js 6 ай бұрын
Is your teacher one of the Brothers Grimm?
@Champiness
@Champiness 5 ай бұрын
Take your teachable moments where you can get them I guess
@ladysilverwynde
@ladysilverwynde 5 ай бұрын
That's beyond messed up.
@littlevirus3562
@littlevirus3562 4 ай бұрын
That's fucked up... But efficient
@amoran2011
@amoran2011 Ай бұрын
Oh my god, I thought you sounded like Pointless Hub lmfao. Love your videos, got a whole new channel of content to watch now!
@matthewmoser1284
@matthewmoser1284 Жыл бұрын
"Big Bird could have saved the Challenger" is a hot take I was NOT prepared for.... 😅
@Reddigdug
@Reddigdug Жыл бұрын
My grandfather was one of the main engineers working on the rockets, as well as one of many who spoke out about the o rings
@aNerdNamedJames
@aNerdNamedJames Жыл бұрын
Did he ever tell you about his subjective PoV of any other high-ups besides Graham?
@leviticus2001
@leviticus2001 Жыл бұрын
Did he know?
@Daniel-yy3ty
@Daniel-yy3ty Жыл бұрын
@@leviticus2001 "as well as one of many who spoke out about the o rings" if I read that right he did
@AndrewPonti
@AndrewPonti Жыл бұрын
I agree - this is tragic in so many ways. As a kid in the 90s who idolized astronauts, NASA, the shuttle and all that "optimistic" glow that the space program was moving into the future, this is horrendous to find out all that actually happened. I was born January 29, 1988, almost exactly 2 years after Challenger, and then I was in high school when Columbia was lost.
@lesigh3410
@lesigh3410 Жыл бұрын
I think that may have been the day the space program died - or maybe it was before then, when the shuttle program was even made.
@adanalyst6925
@adanalyst6925 Жыл бұрын
@@lesigh3410the shuttle program was the remnant of NASA’s grand plans they had back in the 60s that included a shuttle, space stations, moon bases, and a mission to Mars. However after Apollo 11 really the politicians lost any desire to fund anything that pushed the envelope as far as manned exploration went
@aaron.0303
@aaron.0303 8 ай бұрын
@@adanalyst6925 I think in the 60s people thought we would be LIVING on the moon by now. Like, there should be hotels and stuff up there by now.
@ehsbe1056
@ehsbe1056 Жыл бұрын
The fact that big bird was initially supposed to be on the shuttle is my single favourite trivia fact of all time
@fasillimerick7394
@fasillimerick7394 Жыл бұрын
Also, I was an older child when Mr. Hooper died, and the CTW handled that rather well. Losing Big Bird could have been a "We choose to go to Mars..." moment that saw the country rally in support for NASA. Or, there would have been millions of children in the streets with torches and pitchforks.
@RyanSellman1
@RyanSellman1 Жыл бұрын
Probably the latter. Definitely the latter.
@dukefang1001
@dukefang1001 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting that image in my mind. Almost helps distract me from Big Berd’s potential death aboard one of the worst space disasters in history.
@patrickfrost9405
@patrickfrost9405 Жыл бұрын
@@RyanSellman1 I'm imaging them marching with sand-castle equipment, because their parents didn't let them take the real pitchforks and shovels.
@robbie131
@robbie131 Жыл бұрын
An O-Ring is a rubber gasket that's there to create a seal between two parts. In this case, most likely to prevent air from getting to the fuel booster.
@stevencooper4422
@stevencooper4422 Жыл бұрын
To assume Reagan has anything to do with the O-ring on a NASA spacecraft is giving Reagan way too much credit.
@thekidfromcleveland3944
@thekidfromcleveland3944 Жыл бұрын
More to keep the hot gases from exhausting out the side and into the external fuel tank........which is what happened when they failed
@jesusramirezromo2037
@jesusramirezromo2037 Жыл бұрын
​@@stevencooper4422 No he's responsible by pressuring his lackey's, who had no qualifications to even have such a position
@Jst.a.Normal.Bottle.of.Mustard
@Jst.a.Normal.Bottle.of.Mustard Жыл бұрын
People dont understand how accurate everything needs to be for something like a rocket O-Ring, the tolerances for something like that are at most +/- .002, a single human hair is .005 Edit: also temperature plays a huge role in shrinking or expanding different materials some metal expanses something like .003 per inch per 10 degrees
@imEden0
@imEden0 Жыл бұрын
@@Jst.a.Normal.Bottle.of.Mustard yup temperature was the issue not because they froze but because the o rings expanded at a different rate
@Mac_in_the_Hat
@Mac_in_the_Hat Жыл бұрын
(Friday night on Seseme Street) "You know, I was supposed to be on the Discovery." Muppets in unison: "WE KNOW."
@lorddevilfish5868
@lorddevilfish5868 5 ай бұрын
“I guess your chances CRASHED AND BURNED WOKKA WOKKA!” “FOZZY STFU!”
@wadejg_blaze0n213
@wadejg_blaze0n213 Ай бұрын
@@lorddevilfish5868 Waldorf: ‘you hear about the challenger?’ Statler: ‘At least the rocket took off and blew up, this act went straight down the drain!’
@jakethepillowsnake5302
@jakethepillowsnake5302 2 ай бұрын
I would love to see a Mad TV sketch where all the Sesame Street characters learn about the Challenger disaster. The look on Big Bird's face when he finds out he was supposed to be the one on the shuttle would be amazing. Big Bird: "Oh no, if that happened, I would have been blown up!" Gordon: "Actually, probably not. They launch would have been delayed and carried out safely." Long, painfully awkward pause. Elmo: "So Big Bird blew up the rocket?" Gordon: "Yeah, basically."
@ValueNetwork
@ValueNetwork Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that not only was Carol spinney Big bird, He was Oscar the grouch as well. So in this event the 2 main characters who interacted with the humans in the street segment are gone, the show might have to get restructured at that point to go away from the actual street set and more towards the Muppet segments Also this happens in 1986, and Mr. Snuffleupagus was only revealed to the humans, with big bird proving that he’s not an imaginary friend in 1985. So in this scenario Snuffys reveal is the last thing Carol ever performed as Big bird before he passed, and we get a really awkward situation where Snuffy is now only interacting with the humans and not big bird (or he’s probably probably retired as a character alongside big bird almost immediately after he finally escapes big birds shadow)
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish Жыл бұрын
Option 3 they meet him at the funeral.
@bryandraughn9830
@bryandraughn9830 Жыл бұрын
So, have you ever been in a rocket before? Ehh...does a trash can count?
@lemuel1976
@lemuel1976 Жыл бұрын
For here Am I sitting in a tin can Far above the world Planet Earth is blue And there's nothing I can do
@thehammurabichode7994
@thehammurabichode7994 Жыл бұрын
How on Earth do you know so much about both _Sesame Street_ lore and The Challenger Disaster
@LiliOfTheValleyIZkewl
@LiliOfTheValleyIZkewl Жыл бұрын
​​@@thehammurabichode7994 I'm autistic and currently hyper fixated on Muppets and the Challenger. that's how I am so knowledgeable on both. Personally speaking.
@stever089
@stever089 Жыл бұрын
My great uncle was an O ring engineer. He took me to watch the shuttle take off in 2002 it was the most amazing thing I have EVER seen! Great uncle Wally was in his mid 70s then. First off it was like 5 am and dark out the launch made it into daylight. The fire ball was as big as the Sun from my range (25 miles) . It absolutely baffled me with the power that mankind could light the night from 25 miles away... That being all said Wally was all choked up and so negative saying that he told them Bastards the O rings would fail. Him and over 20 engineers BEGGED!!! to stop it, that the temperatures and O rings themselves would fail. He was a WW2 vet and he started to weep it was really upsetting as 13 year old to see someone so "tough" cry like a child in guilt. He passed 3 weeks after the Columbia disaster. Basically what he taught me as a NASA engineer from the 60s-84 that it was all politics. That we had the brain power to do whatever we could desire. Unfortunately it came down to political media coverage and a basic dick measuring contest between USA and USSR.... Still with out any doubt it was the most AMAZING thing I have ever seen with my eyes and I will never ever forget it RIP Wally.
@bogusmogus9551
@bogusmogus9551 Жыл бұрын
After the blame passing bs at the press conference Richard Feynman did a simple practical science example with a glass of cold water and a piece of the rubber that had been in the freezer, he took it out of the glass and snapped it in half, Richard Feynman is a hero of mine, he was awesome. I would have loved to have met him.
@chikennugetandfri8192
@chikennugetandfri8192 Жыл бұрын
The scariest part, is that when the ship explodes there is 2 large pecies of debris trailing white smoke. One of these is the capsule with the crew, and all of them where still alive. At least 2 crew members survived the explosion as the wreckage showed that the safety harnesses where frantically being pulled at, as the astronauts tried to undo the straps holding them to the seats. They died on impact with the water.
@ryanhodin5014
@ryanhodin5014 Жыл бұрын
The two large pieces of debris trailing smoke are the two SRBs (Solid Rocket Boosters), which kept running after the breakup because they weren't destroyed and didn't rely on the shuttle to keep going (Actually, they couldn't be shut off once turned on except by destroying them, which would also have destroyed the Shuttle, which is why Shuttle had so many "If there's a problem here everyone dies" moments in flight). They just kinda kept firing (one deployed its recovery parachute and started spinning) until the Range Safety Officer responsible for making sure the vehicle didn't fall on anyone came to his senses and sent them the order to self-destruct. Otherwise, yeah - The crew capsule was actually visible, just not trailing smoke, and the crew members did survive - They were toggling buttons trying to get power back online, and they activated emergency oxygen supplies, before being killed by impacting the ocean surface.
@WobblesandBean
@WobblesandBean 9 ай бұрын
​@@ryanhodin5014 They were experiencing such high G force in the fall that they would have lost consciousness within seconds. They were not awake when they hit the water.
@ryanhodin5014
@ryanhodin5014 9 ай бұрын
@@WobblesandBean At least some of them were conscious for some time during the fall. I'm not sure if it's known at all when during the fall or for exactly how long, but some of the crew had tried some debugging measures and donned emergency breathing equipment.
@olliegoria
@olliegoria 7 ай бұрын
Morbid curiosity of mine is wondering what they looked like after they hit the water. Obviously the funerals were gonna be closed casket, but did it smear them? Rip them apart? I know it's dark but the potential visuals fascinate me.
@violetmensa8604
@violetmensa8604 7 ай бұрын
@@olliegoria you’re genuinely weird
@francescopili5076
@francescopili5076 29 күн бұрын
The premise, the topic, the delivery… everything about this video is fire
@EthanBoBethan
@EthanBoBethan Жыл бұрын
It’s funny how Big Bird being on Space Shuttle Challenger could have either ended the Shuttle program early or it could have prolonged it by preventing the disaster
@oliversherman2414
@oliversherman2414 Жыл бұрын
Crazy to think that such a random, insane alternate history idea could've been such a drastically different timeline
@Pyratemime
@Pyratemime Жыл бұрын
One item that Cody missed is that George Bush, the VP, was supposed to be present for the launch. He was a major advocate for the program and the cancellation the previous day had forced the reshuffle of his schedule. NASA knew they would not get a second reshuffle and did not want to risk alienating a proponent of the program at that level of the administration.
@blixer8384
@blixer8384 Жыл бұрын
So it’s Reagan and Bush’s fault.
@amh9494
@amh9494 Жыл бұрын
​@@blixer8384the pathetic American culture of sucking up to your boss in desperate fear of being fired like some medieval peasant before his liege lord because there is no legal framework to protect workers is also partly responsible.
@JVR10893
@JVR10893 2 ай бұрын
4:08 if the Space Shuttle program ended in the 90’s, that means the Columbia disaster in 2003 wouldn’t have happened…
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