Amazon Flex vs Walmart Spark (2022)

[@YourDriverMike]

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[@ZetaSigmaSlots]

One thing to note with flex is that outside the holiday season your hours are capped at 40 in rolling 7 day window. And at 10 hrs a day. Granted probably 10% or less of the gig community do it full time or more so less of an issue. For me I like flex and the guaranteed money for outside of traditional meal times. A lot of times I'll actually do a 3 or 4 hr shift before going to my full time office job. This morning I caught a surged 4.5 hr for $139.5.0. Started at 330 and I finished actually at 730.

[@petercaires9276]

One of the best tips I got was to get a couple expandable crates from Costco and a portable dolly from Harbor Freight. Spark XL orders are usually cases of water and are usually going to buildings that have difficult accessibility. The dolly and crates make it simple.

[@daphne7435]

Absolutely need the collapsible wagons! People just love ordering multiple cases of water!

[@Oracol]

DEFINITELY wear an Amazon vest. And even then it gets sketchy. Lost count how many times I felt like I was going to get shot for trespassing while delivering for Amazon Flex. Most people simply don't know about Flex, and all they see is some stranger pulling up to their property in an unmarked car. It wouldn't surprise me if someone's already been shot

[@sapashini2613]

Yeah I saw multiple news stories about that and stopped doing flex

[@__hazel.]

gotta love America, everyone gets guns so startled psychos can shoot their delivery drivers

[@314murdacapitall]

😂🤣

[@314murdacapitall]

Y’all scary !

[@dshoec]

You can do 7 deliveries for Spark in 4 hours, 20 bucks per delivery and make 140. Also the deliveries are closer and not nearly as labor intensive as Amazon Flex. In Flex you deliver 60 packages in 4 hours walking a long distance for 80 dollars.

[@TheTif129]

In my opinion, Spark is way better than Amazon flex. I do mainly shop and deliver trips...some only one item to shop for and get paid 19.50(base pay per shop and deliver order, but ends up being more with tip)to shop for the customers. I had a shop and delivery for a gallon of ice cream and it paid me 27 dollars to take it less than 2 miles down the street and ended up being 34 with the customer's tip! I rarely do curbside pickups because most of them are not worth it to me, especially when it comes to the mileage and the tip-baiters. NEVER do the batch orders over 2, as they are never worth the time, miles or money! It's easy to make on average 200 plus dollars per day on Spark in a 4-8 hour shift depending on which orders you take as oppose to Amazon flex. I did Amazon flex once and never looked back as it took me almost 3 to 4 hours to deliver my orders and only made 70 dollars and the miles were insane!

[@nflfangirl19]

Great points made & thanks for the tips!!

[@SoulVision1111]

I work as a delivery driver for Walmart...gas prices are crushing us and Walmart is paying less now than before with less bonuses and incentives ...they are paying is delivery drivers 3 dollars a delivery to deliver Amazon ordered or items that could be mailed and having us drivers deliver these items where customers are not able to tip us ... I spent 3 hours the other night driving 40 miles to deliver to 12 customers and after gas not including wear and tear on my car and not including taxes after gas I made about 4 or 5 dollars an hour Walmart is exploiting their independent contractor delivery drivers ...it is a monopoly as Walmart now only uses SPARK a delivery app that is owned by Walmart If we do not wish to accept a delivery that we are assigned because we know we will lose money Walmart penalizes the driver They are rich because we are getting poorer

[@catbangs276]

I do both Flex and Spark. I make more money and more predictable income from Flex. I try to work high demand periods with Flex where my pay ranges from $25 to $44 an hour. When I can't get Flex high demand pay, i drive Spark. From a stress and ease of work perspective, I prefer Spark. Btw, I wear a blue unbranded vest for both Flex and Spark. Customers of Flex can track you one customer in front, not the whole route but they are given an estimate of your arrival based on where you are on your route.

[@larryc1616]

You make more with flex but prefer spark?

[@jasonmendoza2044]

One HUUUUGE thing you failed to mention about Amazon flex, and the determining factor that’s kept me from going with it, is that you have no idea how many miles your shift will take you. And I’ve seen plenty people say they drive 80-90 miles in a 4hr block, leaving you at about $1 per mile, when in the food delivery apps you say to stick with at least $1.75 per mile. This factor clearly makes it UNPREDICTABLE, as opposed to you saying it’s the more predictable of the two (I know you meant the pay is more predictable, but to someone unknowing it may seem like you meant the whole process) so that unpredictable mileage makes it a hard pass unless you have a car that’s great on gas (which I’m working on, then I’ll probably flex it up a bit 🦾). I do apologize if this comes off as me being negative…you are just leaving a huge factor out of the equation and may mislead some people into a situation they aren’t ready for 👌🏽

[@Trixz2007]

This is true I prefer to be near my area I dont like driving 1 hr out and then begin my route

[@ms.lina1306]

I always drive about 100 miles per shift with flex. Yes prepare yourself for a lot of mileage.

[@Trixz2007]

Unless you work the DC stations you have a chance to get a local route whi h can be less then 60 miles. Be aware though because these routes will have maximum packages and be grouped so they can squeeze more packages per mile/hr

[@daphne7435]

As with any gig app it is market specific as to how well you will do. In my market, I average anywhere between $40 and $50 an hour with spark on a good day. On a slow day I can average anywhere between $25 and $30 an hour. The incentives are great. Most pickups consist of 2 deliveries and in my market they are within 3 to 6 miles of the store. Spark is absolutely more popular than food delivery because of the pay first and foremost. And what's really nice about spark, at least in my area, is they do not oversaturate the zone with drivers like food apps do. If you were to come here and try to be a driver in my zone it will say that it is full and you will be put on a wait list. Right now I know a couple of people that have been wait listed for a few months and are still waiting. I would tell anybody else who is that it is definitely worth the wait and to hang in there.

[@broncobob36]

I’ve been on the Spark waitlist since this past December. I’ve been told by a few Spark drivers I’ve talked to while picking up Walmart grocery orders for Uber Eats that it’s definitely worth it to deliver for Spark right now.

[@daphne7435]

@@broncobob36 absolutely!

[@paulbond474]

@@broncobob36 try and sign up to an area near by and then transfer/ select zone you want to work

[@michaelford6262]

Amazon flex / Whole Foods or Amazon fresh … you get 2 hr shifts and your pay is a range pending tips. I’ve actually got 90 for 2 hours due to tips

[@michaelford6262]

Also if doing Amazon package deliveries… take a sharpie and write a initial matching customer name… makes easier to alphabetize pachages and you can find them faster

[@yellabonetv1719]

I signed up for walmart spark in april an it's still in the submitted stage smh 🤦

[@soumayahalsayed1341]

Me too. Even though it says the market in in has availability.

[@tallmex7183]

Yeah mines is stuck in the sign up for branch

[@55Porter]

I live 3 minutes away from a Walmart that just started the Spark service. Hopefully this can be a nice advantage for me in terms of saving gas $$$. I can just turn my app on at home and wait for orders. Then after a delivery I can either head back to Walmart or go back home and wait for more since I live so close.

[@Jordanjuggin]

same im like 3 miles, and not toooo many people are doing it but I fear it will become satured and then the pay will decrease like UE

[@55Porter]

@@Jordanjuggin yeah I'm trying not to let it slip to people in casual conversations what I'm doing and how much I'm making 🤣. I just started yesterday and have already made over 160.00 on just six deliveries in about 6 hours of work 🤑

[@risingvibes11]

@@55Porter how's it going??

[@avonlady30]

@@Jordanjuggin Are things still going well or have you seen the beginnings of saturation?

[@brownsense1]

I signed up for both Amazon Flex and Walmart Spark. Spark put me on a waiting list. I am 3 weeks into flex and I love it. Tryna make some $$$ no time to be waiting on a wait-list

[@larryc1616]

I asked my full-time Amazon delivery driver if flex or full time driving was worth it. He's a young guy in his 20's and said neither was good because the pay is too low. He said it's just a transitional job for him.

[@LostVampireNSFV]

I appreciate the information. Thank you!

[@jrb9191]

I love spark. Make way better money and the dollar to mile ratio is better than food. The secret is to find a Walmart in a populated area and make bank. If it is a rural area, might be hard. I make around 1300-1400 a week.

[@MannyGutierrez-jo7ow]

How many hours do you work in a day?

[@meanssnothingg]

@@MannyGutierrez-jo7ow i second this question

[@Lisa-sp3ik]

So in the AF app can you see the delivery addresses once you accept a block, and if so can you cancel if they are far? I’m in Pittsburgh too but have not ventured out with AF yet.

[@ZetaSigmaSlots]

You do not get to know where you're going until you receive your packages at the warehouse. 😢 Shipts pkg delivery does let you preview the route when you accept but they're only in a couple select markets so far

[@jasonmendoza2044]

Nope as the other fellow said you won’t know until you do the package pick up, and it may be up to 80-90+ miles.

[@dshoec]

I live in LA and only drive 5 or 10 minutes to make deliveries.

[@JoshKeatonFan]

I literally just drove an Amazon FLEX route today from 5:00 p.m. - 9:00 p.m. (finished my route at around 8:20 p.m.) The block I picked up was for $96 at DCL3 in North Jackson

[@MrGonzo2323]

I make $250 - $300 a day off spark in the Fresno / Clovis area

[@Schultzbritt]

same. It seems like a lot of people haven't figured out how to use it exactly though. Like why ever take the dot com 10-12 people orders he mentioned? 🤡

[@XanianEmpire]

I would like to use Spark but the nearest Walmart to me is far and not the best area.

[@jesusfreak8009]

Love the videos bro! I know you are a busy guy. Any feedback on Shipt present day. Starting spark and Shipt bc doordash is horrible here.

[@mintmost9225]

I'm still waiting on your feedback regarding Spark... Mike from your other video about Walmart Spak about how I can't even create an account their app is BAD

[@Hike617]

Wholefoods runs are gold usually paying 40 to 50 per hour in my area

[@3202eduardo]

Omg hey i made 535 with Walmart spark for a day i go back and forth with amazon as well where can I email my pictures from both really high pay

[@meanssnothingg]

how did you acheive this ?

[@andyliu9395]

What's zip code can sing up for spark? Who can tell me,I can pay for it.

[@eddyfairbanks4150]

Great questions Matt 👍🏾

[@jenniferr5298]

Which would you recommend for a mother that needs to take her children with her?

[@SMPUNK]

I barely got into in Walmart Spark. Amazon Flex i have been with them for a bit but i have to drive a quite a bit of distance for that. So i dont do Flex as much.

[@salimtalib9037]

Hey Mike, this is your buddy up in Cleveland Ohio, Salim. I was told that with Walmart Sparks you can get tip baited. The customer can reduce or eliminate your tip within 24 hours. Plus you only get paid on Fridays. Unlike food delivery where you can get paid everyday & there's no tip baiting. Is that true? 🤔

[@Gio022291]

Amazon flex warehouse is about 30 miles from me and Walmart is down the street. Amazon is consist but not worth driving that far. And walmart spark isn't consist but so close. And food delivery sucks in my area. So it all base on ur market. How far away from home would you drive to work these gig apps?

[@Carriemlx]

I’m doing Amazon Flex right now. I’m frustrated because I’m hardly getting any hours, maybe like one 3-4.5 hr block per day. And not only that they have me driving like 30 minutes to an hour away to deliver packages in another city a lot of the times. That’s a lot of miles🙁 So I signed up for Spark today. I’m waiting on my background check to complete

[@314murdacapitall]

How u like it

[@DashingGrandpa]

We do not have Flex here but we do have Spark. I do a lot of Spark and it's my choice of apps at this time. From what you are saying about Flex having guaranteed pay for that shift, it seems like Spark. Spark doesn't actually have a schedule however if you take an order for say $45 and it is going 35 miles, that is almost like a shift since you know it is going to taking you about 2 hours. That to me is a lot like Flex. Meaning you are guaranteed $45 dollars for that length time it takes you. They both seem very similar to me. Maybe someday we will get Amazon Flex here and I can do them both :-)

[@pdizzle10484]

The DSP drivers use the Flex app as well so customers probably can track Flex Drivers

[@infobrat]

As a Flex, any and all packages that could not be delivered during the shift must be returned to the Amazon warehouse after that shift ? Also if packages are not delivered, this will also affect the drivers over all pay ? I am considering the Amazon warehouse mileage to the multiple trips to Walmart.

[@hi38325]

All undeliverable packages are required to be returned immediately to the wearhouse upon completion of the final deliverable package. The training from Amazon also encourage you to make another attempt to deliver undeliverable packages once all others have been delivered. Undeliverable packages won't immediately impact your pay, you get paid for the estimated time, not the number of packages you deliver. But, too many undeliverable packages will impact your rating from Amazon, and could eventually lead to deactivation.

[@charlesalegria73]

I was an Amazon delivery driver but when I found out about spark I was all in

[@meanssnothingg]

what makes you choose spark over flex ?

[@lisandrasantaliz3957]

how much walmart take to accept your application?

[@campt.v.1517]

I been on Walmart waiting list for a month now.. flex was long to in Philly

[@stephenjohnson5589]

I would consider Walmart since I live near a Walmart. Amazon would be a long drive to the warehouse.

[@donnaroos6427]

Good morning gig family

[@alanamatthews6204]

Spark over Amazon Flex any day. Amazon is much stricter than Walmart. I’ve been doing both more than a year. Amazon for 3 years. I only do Whole Foods for Amazon.

[@meanssnothingg]

whats better with spark ?

[@alanamatthews6204]

@@meanssnothingg Amazon is strict on time. If the warehouse is late giving out the packages, so are you. Amazon do not take this into consideration. You are put at risk for being late. Spark do not stress out about time. Also, you receive tips. If you have to return something, you get additional pay. It isn’t much but Amazon doesn’t give out any additional money. Time and tips is why Spark is better.

[@jconklin777]

Flex sends you to country roads

[@chocolatespecialist1]

Fine with me if I’m getting paid well

[@TheTif129]

YES!

[@johnrose3405]

I heard in some areas spark is bad with bots taking the orders, is this true?

[@geraldineokeke3422]

He’s on lmstagram

[@_joestop5]

On which app would you drive the most miles during your shift or per hour?

[@KLam-mx2fl]

Spark has lots of tip baiting, don't know why

[@jconklin777]

3rd party companies getting majority of orders vs flex

[@halofreak644]

Who has both?

[@WookieSenshi]

I would say that Flex is more of a side or backup type of app where as spark can absolutely be done full time. I would argue that spark is one of the best apps that you can do out of any of them if not the best in some markets. I really only do Amazon Flex blocks if I get a minimum of a $30 an hour base pay on my block. So if I get a 5-hour block I'm not accepting it for anything less than $150. It's important to remember that there are probably going to be multiple Walmarts in your area if you do spark, so it's good to look around and see which ones pay the best. Some are going to be terrible while others are going to be gold mines. I made $386 this past Sunday and 8 and 1/2 hours and all but $20 of it was spark. The other small bit was $19.99 double Uber eats that I couldn't pass up for under 3 miles. The reason why spark has the edge over most apps including flex, in my opinion is that not only can you make fantastic paper hour, but typically the pay per mile is much higher than most of the other apps. I'm usually making anywhere between $3 on the low end too as big as $7 or higher per mile for each batch that I take. And the incentives are way better than any other app in my opinion. But again, that could depend on your market. EDIT: also, you can always switch your zones on Walmart spark if you have Walmarts that are too far away from you. It might just be that you're working in the wrong zone. Walmart's are everywhere, so all you have to do is put in whatever zip code you want to work in and it will show you where the Walmarts are located that you can do spark. Mike, if you're having to drive 30 minutes to your closest Walmart then you might want to experiment with your different zones in your area and see if there's one that's better for you. You can switch zones as much as you want and you can work anywhere in the country that spark is available. I'm in florida, but I could literally go and put a Seattle ZIP code into my spark account and switch over to Seattle right now if I wanted to.

[@CoconutPete]

Mike & Matt look like twins

[@shiftonephoto]

They are lol

[@lileightycolt6955]

Rise and shine

[@riseup4473]

Yeah, Matt’s good.👍

[@andreas3331]

I wish Amazon Flex was available in my area.

[@michaelhughes6767]

thats you right? sorry I couldnt think if anything but that

[@fakegmail6636]

Customers are able to track.

[@beingreezy]

I swear I was trying to listen but I got distracted by trying to see if you duplicated yourself😭

[@eddyfairbanks4150]

Matt 👍🏾

[@justinlycan9767]

Oh my god. There’s two of you?! 😱😍🤤

[@landonmillett6167]

Twins?

[@renegarcia5291]

I thought the same thing, or maybe the same guy

[@jillianguillery9604]

Yes, they are twins

[@diannewarren3680]

GM!

[@xxstract28]

Dude on the right was kinda weird lol

[@josephpainchaud7533]

Labor instensive lol wtf do you people want ? A massage while working

[@redw0lf848]

ask for a like, receive a dislike. Asking for a like is not normal social convention, maybe for arrogant influencers. If someone likes, they will "like"

[@trollon-u2124]

Your twin brother Matt is a human bobblehead

[@gootchie]

The multiple batch trips with general merchandise for Spark (dotcoms) are absolutely not worth it compared to Amazon Flex. You're better off sticking to strictly grocery orders. I avoid dotcoms like the plague. And dotcoms don't tip.

[@Wrathsack]

Thats wild I didn't know you had a Twin brother named Matt.

[@Pointschaser1]

He doesn’t. He does both sides