AMD's FX Processors Were Very Underestimated - The Truth of AMD FX

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[@kylemacgregor8562]

Thanks for making people like me rocking the fx 8350 still feel better.

[@brodriguez11000]

Feel better but how much of those improvements are in better drivers? Plus AMDs multicore strategy is nothing new. At the time it was a bet much like their fusion of GPU/CPU was a bet. Parallel programming is hard, and more cores don't make it easier.

[@Thesinistereyes1]

about time to trash it. Zen 2 is coming

[@syncmonism]

It was never a bad CPU

[@Thesinistereyes1]

@@syncmonism thats a lie

[@domenicpolsoni8370]

@@Thesinistereyes1 How is someone's good personal experience with a CPU a lie? It's subjective. The performance/value proposition is exceptional.

[@apachelives]

I remember back then i3's were faster at gaming with the AMD FX CPUs being average but acceptable, now the same i3's are useless and the AMD FX CPUs are STILL average and acceptable. AMD is fantastic for value and bang for buck.

[@ToGrimmToWin]

apachelives i3 has 4c4t now i5 6c6t i7 8c8t most anyway do and i3 kills old fx chips a pentium g4560 2c4t kills fx8350 so nice try and same with all the amd r3 cpus

[@apachelives]

​@@ToGrimmToWin comparing chips of the same age, doesnt matter they have 4 cores now back then they didnt. Typical Intel Fanboi.

[@huzumnicolas4343]

@@ToGrimmToWin Good luck with that pentium g4560.It stutters in new games like hell (bcs of 2c 4t) so no you can't say is better than any AMD Ryzen 3 CPU.

[@bass-dc9175]

True that. I built my first PC around 9 years ago, rocking a Phenom II x6 1045T This PC has last for 7,5 years without too many compromises in terms of settings. Back when 4 cores where a luxory, this "6 core" (Essencially 3 core 6 threads) CPU stood the test of time. Intel would have been the better choice at the time, But AMD held its own over the years. In any case: I will rather have a CPU that performs solidly now and pretty much the same years later, than a CPU that is amazing now but horrible later. Rocking a R5 1600 + GTX 1070 right now and that puppy will last for a few more years without stuttering. [Correction: The Phenom 2 I had was a real 6 core, since it did not share resources like the FX line. Thanks to Ismael Soto for the correction]

[@purpleezah5382]

still using my fx8300 and still getting 80+ fps in most new games. My friends I5 gaming pc from that time cant run shit rn

[@IAMPOPP]

These are definitely good arguements. I had the FX-8350 and i loved that cpu. I only upgraded recently to ryzen 3700x because it finally got to a point where i wanted to upgrade out of want, but not necessity. Now i can give my old rig to a friend and he can play new games as well.

[@hakont.4960]

My primary reason for replacing my FX-8350 was not because it lacked performance, but because the ASUS motherboard malfunctioned, so I had to go back to my old Phenom II X4 965. That CPU got the job done fairly well and when the time came that it was really obsolete AMD had released their new Ryzen lineup so I went with an A320 MB from ASUS (not getting anymore ASUS products anylonger) and a Ryzen 3 1200. I currently have an MSI B450 MB with a Ryzen 5 2600 and that CPU feels like a proper successor to my good old FX-8350.

[@evilqtip7098]

Ya My FX 4100 & FX 8150 are way over kill for what I use it for and my needs.. But I still bought a new Ryzen 3600XT and ASUS TUF wifi etc... To support the industry for giving the world at my fingertips ... Plus I finally almost built my Dream SYSTEM !!

[@syncmonism]

I never thought that the FX chips were that bad, but they were a little ahead of their time, in that most games (and some other software) didn't take good advantage of their architecture or all of their threads. The absolutely most powerful multi-threaded CPUs were still Intel at the time, but they were just way more expensive, but power users who cared about that tended not to bother with the 8-core FX chips, but the 8-core FX chips were great value for some people. AMD just wasn't able to sell enough of them. Ryzen seemed to continue the same sort of trend of offering even more threads, but its single threaded performance also improved a lot as well, and it represented AMD getting a lot closer to Intel's highest performing chips, whereas Intel's IPC and manufacturing improvements had slowed down a lot (making it possible for AMD to catch up). Now, just exactly how Intel allowed AMD to overtake them is, on the other hand, a much more complex question. It's not like Intel is dead yet or anything. They're still selling lots of CPUs and making lots of profits, it's just that their sales and their profits are going to be in decline for a while. Whether Intel will be able to get things under control and stay competitive enough to defend a lot of their market share in the CPU market is not clear to me, but it seems that their reliance on their own manufacturing has made them less flexible than AMD, at least for now.

[@bdhale34]

Which is ironic AF as Intel used to rely on AMD to fabricate some of it's processors back in the early days.

[@theblitz1687]

new generation intel cpus gonna cost half the price so intel might take the lead again. Its good amd is pushing the boundary or we would still pay a lot for small performance difference

[@bdhale34]

@@theblitz1687 The Intel price halving is only on their HEDT lineup the chips 99% of people buy are only getting like a 3% discount which is pretty dang sad really.

[@shadowopsairman1583]

Realize that if the software config files mention Genuine Intel and x86-64 (not AMD64) it will make AMD parts perform worse, same for gpus too. Its all a pitched scam, intel held us all back in software, bribed OEMs,because they were going to get rocked again.

[@RATechYT]

*Edit as of 8th of July, 2020: Ignore what I said starting from **3:24** to **3:32**. I recently tested the i3 3240, and that information is incorrect. The reason I said that was because that's what I've seen a lot of people write and talk about, which turned out to be bs, and I'd like to apologize for misinformation.* - I also want to add that it's just unfortunate that FX received a lot of hate, just cause most reviewers weren't able to show their true capabilities at the time. Even though Piledriver CPUs were behind compared to Intel's processors in some areas due to lower single core performance, they still performed better in other multi-core intensive locations of the game, and the thing that I dislike the most is that most reviewers that I watch did not even talk about this. Also back then most people would only show you average and minimum frame rates without frame time graphs or anything, which obviously wasn't sufficient to demonstrate which product is better over the other. I would always hear people recommend getting an i3 with a better single core over a 6 or even an 8 core FX CPU, and even I myself would believe that locked i3's and i5's were a better choice. After years of research and experience, I realized that was wrong. Having more cores, even with an exchange of 15-25% worse single core performance seems to be a better decision, of course unless you use tasks that are only single core dependant. Basically my point here is to spread some awareness and explain people that frame rate graphs are not always enough to understand what a CPU is capable of in gaming. Look for benchmarks that show you frame time graphs and the gameplay footage itself, preferably of a few different locations, cause that seems to be the best way of benchmarking CPUs.

[@dra6o0n]

People also don't dwell on undervolting CPUs or GPUs back in 2012... I'm pretty sure the FX Processors or any CPUs in the past might have more performance to squeeze if you knew where it is stable to reduce voltage usage, and in turn enabling higher overclocks at lower thermals.

[@RATechYT]

Yeah, missed out on that. Thanks for pointing out!

[@danielmdax]

6:40 Which site are you using to compare the CPU Performance?

[@GMIX]

@@dra6o0n undervolt is a bit broken on FX, yep, it may run stable, but L3 cache speed may significantly drop and i dont know why. Overall fx CPU are not that hot, critical temperature is like 80°C, then your pc shuts down. But motherboards are hot as f*.

[@ourdailymeat]

Somebody is selling a AMD FX 8300 + 8gb RAM + GTX 1060 (6gb) + 500gb + 450W PSU for just $300. Should I by this?

[@harsh8255]

i hate those youtubers who say, "If you are still using a FX processor, i feel bad for you." No thanks bud. i don't feel the need to upgrade, when my 6300@4.1 is doing alright. stop trying to sell us shit.

[@montreauxs]

And now? I still keep my FX-8350 / R9 Fury setup which runs fine. And AMD has begun mauling Intel on every front! Ryzen 9 Anyone? LOL!!

[@sahilbhosale5754]

3900x

[@Dave-dh7rt]

@oga buga that would be a HUGE upgrade. 2X the single threaded performance and 4.25X the multi threaded performance.

[@andreewert6576]

Hello my fellow FX8350/Fury user! Mine is sitting on a display shelf above my new main rig. Loved it so much that i bought a new case to put it in, when the Ryzen stuff came out. It's now my failover machine whenever something is wrong with my Ryzen 9 or if i tear that apart for cleaning or further mods. Brilliant hardware, still good for 4K60Hz!

[@kennedymoreiras3054]

@@andreewert6576 ?!??! 4k60hz on a fury X?

[@DarkNia64]

@@andreewert6576 Be real with me, how bottlenecked was your Fury at 1080p with that FX chip?

[@Rimonds]

Still rocking fx 9590 :D and i dont see the need to upgrade.

[@andreewert6576]

Oh you will see it as soon as someone hands you even a 1st gen Ryzen R5. And 3rd gen is even faster. While i agree with the video, FX has its own framedrops for example in BF1 multiplayer. It was horrible.

[@Rimonds]

@@andreewert6576 Oh i dont doubt its an old cpu and its time for change but it still holds up so there is no rush to upgrade .

[@YorHighness]

Me too tamed it with a shitload of radiators. Runs it all well No fucking problem..

[@kellyanderson7115]

@@Rimonds Yeah, I have an FX9590 as well and it's holding up well. Just had to put a new water cooler on it last week since you do have to keep them cool. I'm trying to wait until Zen 3 hits and even Zen 4 if I can make it that long. I use it as a big data server with the ability to transcode. Once I get it sorted out, I'll start transcoding 4K video down to 1K video, at that point whatever reasonably priced ($750 would be acceptable, since it'll have a long life) Zen chip up to about 16 cores will be my ticket.

[@Rimonds]

@@kellyanderson7115 Im rockin nhd15 noctua cooler to keep this toaster cool :D , no issues at all :D

[@JT-ko2ib]

The power consumption argument definitely hinges on computer usage time each day, and geographical location, whether AMD was a choice that generation. The performance of the chips are still pretty good, thanks to their multi threaded performance, so a bit of a shame AMD never tried, or could, go further than Piledriver on this socket. Even just one more move to Steamroller would have been quite an enhancement.

[@johnpaulbacon8320]

Nice video. For my PC's Final AM3+ build - it was more then Enough for my needs. Following was my setup before I had to switch from AM3+ an AM4 build. Case was the Thermal Take Commander G-42. PSU was the Seasonic Pime 650w FM 80+ Titanium , MotherBoard was the Gigabyte GA 990FX-Gaming , Ram was 32 gb ( 4 x 8 ) Crucial Ballistix Sports XT ddr3 @ 1866 mhz , Storage was the 1 tb Samsung 970 Evo NVME M.2 , GPU was the MSI Radeon RX - 580 Gaming X 8 gb , CPU was the AMD FX-9590 @ 4.7 ghz base / 5.0 Ghz boost , CPU Cooler was the Corsair H100i GTX AIO.- Optical Drives were 2 x LG HL DT ST BD RE WH10LS30 ( BluRay - ReWriters ). - OS was Win 7 Pro 64 / Win 10 Pro 64 after free upgrade. In that configuration I didn't feel there was a Need to upgrade while it was working. Even to this day somehow my 990FX-Gaming mb got some damage { most likely } some electrical damage that caused the MB not to boot properly. If the mb hadn't gotten Damaged I would probably still be using that setup today as my daily use machine.

[@CharcharoExplorer]

This is correct. Testing my old Ryzen 5 1500X vs my old i5 4570 showed me how important testing multiple areas is. Now to be fair, the 1500X was faster in single core too, but in some games or scenes it would be a few percents. However, testing in extremely demanding scenes in some games had the i5 get literally crushed by the SMT enabled 1500X, up to 53% even.

[@RATechYT]

Thank you for clarifying.

[@dra6o0n]

Game development also affects the graphs a lot. When developers sticks to simpler games they roll out with fancy GPU intensive graphics, they never push the CPU every time and enable a narrative to be written about Intel and AMD products. The only exception is when games are designed with simulation and complex strategy gets involved, that CPU usage became important (but the amount of people playing RTS games are far less than those playing shooters or open world).

[@NoevNemesis]

still have my fx 8320... in 2019

[@Sonlirain]

I used to have a 6300 before i swapped it for a Ryzen 1600x. It was ok but a bunch of games really hated FX CPU's. Mainly ":From the Depths" that at the time used only 1 core.

[@yagzcicek1597]

with stock cooler. Also 4.2 ghz. i love my FX 8320.

[@greasysteve5671]

@@Sonlirain really, FTD runs just fine on my FX4350

[@Sonlirain]

@@greasysteve5671 It had multithreading/core support added a year or two ago. Before that it would only use one core and FX CPU's would start chugging the second anything more complex than a raft got loaded.

[@greasysteve5671]

@@Sonlirain didn't know that

[@macronomicus]

Love my FX 9370, all these years overclocked to the max and still solid going as strong as ever. AMD makes quality that lasts for the best price. I do intend to upgrade when the Ryzen 3 comes out though. :)

[@KooYu]

FX6300 user also here. I have a pretty good chip working 4.3GHz @ 1.28v and I dare to say, I would like to upgrade but I can't find many reasons... True, I will eventually upgrade to an R5 3600 but he only thing that suffers (performance wise) is video editing and encoding/rendering. I'm pretty satisfied with everything else. Well said man!

[@FamilyCS2]

My sons pc which is parts of my old pc runs a FX 8350 with a 1050ti 4gb. Add a ssd to that and a decent motherboard, we got a decent older gaming rig that still holds up! I havbe always loved amd. RED TEAM GO!

[@ghostnoise1711]

Please, update the GPU to at least RX580 8GB

[@reki353]

gpu will hold your system back, but be careful not to overdo it, RX580 or Nvidia Geforce 1060 max (and whatever 16-- series is similar to 1060)

[@FamilyCS2]

@@reki353 way old comment. but it has an rx580 in it now. still runs fine. I run a 3600

[@quakegott]

this kind of explains why i can play literally every game with my premature GPU upgrade (5700XT Red Devil) with my ancient FX-8320

[@typingcat]

I don't know if it is because I am also hearing you through the cheap inbuilt speakers of my phone, but that inbuilt microphone of yours sounds rather clear and all right. I have heard lots of worse recordings on KZbin.

[@Colonel9090]

My FX 8350 served me well for 5 years up untill i recently made the upgrade to the ryzen 3700x. It's a solid chip for the price, Can't go wrong. But I did notice the past couple of years that it started to suffer in newer titles.

[@GalaxyTracker]

I have an 8320 and it is a superb chip. On its default settings it was overheating. But I could not believe my eyes when I overclocked it to 4.1 while undervolting it by 0.1V! The temperatures dropped more than 20 oC and I had a faster chip! Paired with an overclocked 7870 Ghz edition, I really believe I really hit the sweet budget spot back then in 2013.

[@narethliansgamespace3860]

AMD is notorious for specifying higher voltages at stock than it needs, although that's more on the GPU side than the CPU side.

[@tweakmygames448]

That's why we always add the frametime graph in our videos! Everything said after 12:39 is on point; FX cpus draw a lot of power for sure, but recent gpus are efficient enough to balance the whole system's power draw.

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 thx for the review, yes, having the actual live line graph is essential to demonstrating cpu performance under a live load, thats when you can see when more threads can sometimes make a big difference

[@sandboxlarry9490]

I was just telling my friend how surprised I am how well games still run on my fx8350 paired with a 580. Nice video, just validated what I've been thinking lately. 1080p ultra settings with division 2.

[@hellblazer275]

big pile driver with big polarus are a match made by god himself

[@gamecomparisons]

My HTPC was built in 2012 for ~$350, upgraded from my maxed out Athlon X2 6400+ system. I saw all of the negative reviews of the FX line, but decided to research it more. Having experienced AMD's ever so slight performance deficit, without tweaking, for 15 years at that point I knew the story and the brand loyalty of megacorp loyalists. I heard the arguments for Intel from friends in the media industry saying that seconds of render time was money, etc. Well, I was into media rendering and games, but I also never put down more than $300 total on a PC upgrade. The FX-8150 was the most I ever spent on a single PC component up until that point. I wasn't disappointed either. Videos rendered six to eight times faster than my Athlon X2, games with framerate issues were non existent and I didn't even need to upgrade my older Video card. Then Sony and Microsoft went with AMD APU solutions and I knew what was coming, better software optimization for AMD architecture and higher core counts were coming. Because of the FX-8150, I was able to comfortably sit out this generation of settop boxes. I later upgraded my Radeon HD 4850 with an HD 7870 in summer of 2016, and then pounced on a Powercolor Red Devil RX 480 8GB by November of that year. Both purchases turned out to be just in time for the price hike caused by miners, and Sony and Microsoft's incremental and much more expensive "upgrades" in the Pro and One X . I even upgraded the old X2 machine to an Athlon X4 860K that same year because my X2's motherboard was shutting off randomly. I remember specifically picking the 860K because online reviews at the time were comparing it favorably to my then four year old FX-8150 and the price was much lower. I figured if the naysayers were right I'd have a cheaper version of the same PC in two places, but the Athlon X4 is nowhere near as capable as the FX-8150 in my testing. I expect to be using both machines well into the 2020s with no real trouble.

[@johncate9541]

I had an FX at one time and sold it off when I stopped needing so many threads. Still running 15h in the form of an Athlon X4 870K, and it does as well today as it did when I got it in 2014. I've put off upgrading a few times just because the old 870K still does the job.

[@JackSparrow-wn1on]

still got my FX8320 + HD7970, works well up to these days.

[@robertdunham6028]

FX processors still holding strong after 10 years.

[@steelyjace]

Proud owner here of a FX 8350 and still gaming on in 2022 💪🏻😎

[@pieraldi2]

before i upgraded to my ryzen5 2600x i had the fx 8350. loved it, it took care of just about anything i would throw at it. and never once gave me an issue. sold it to my best friend for an amazing deal. and its still gaming today. he loves it just as i did. im proud of amd for making that chip.

[@Tigerhawk30]

I've since upgraded to an R7 2700X, but I had an FX 8350 for three years at least...paired it with an RX 480 4GB, then a 580 8GB, and went with a Hyper 212 Evo cooler from the getgo. While I could see microstutter in cinematic areas, it had no problem keeping up with Assassin's Creed Odyssey in game at stock, which usually maxed out around 4.3Ghz on any given/all cores. My wife now has that system and it still runs great. Never once regretted buying it.

[@dewet2wet]

I had an FX 8370 from around 2013 to 2017. When I picked up a 1600. It served me super well during that time.

[@GMIX]

overclocked my fx8320 to @4.2ghz, ram @2110mhz, cpu nb to @2480mhz and it runs awesome. In bf5 i dont get fps lower than 60, shadow of tomb raider runs maxed out with gtx1070 gives me 70+fps

[@unpotat7672]

I found even at 4.5ghz battlefield 5 64 player multiplayer struggled to stay above 45fps, 50fps was possible but when there's lots of players around and action happening it tanks. In not very CPU demanding games its fine but tax it and its shortcomings show. Plus you know its bad when its winter and your heating's off and you have to open the windows lest you sweat into the back of your chair thanks to the CPU heat :')

[@camehere1228]

The FX processors ages very well and as you said was underestimated just like iGPUS.

[@lukasnordanskog3682]

Dang, I had the exact same chassi once, upgraded to Fractal R4 but I am still to this day rocking the same 8350! :D

[@seeingeyegod]

yep, glad I went with it in 2013. It has really aged well. Been running mine at 4.4 for most of that time.

[@theblitz1687]

didnt witcher 3 get any performance updates though(dx11-12 stuff or general optimization)? If it did get updates, was fx cpu performance in demanding city areas still better before the updates?

[@giserson2]

Didn't know the FX 6300 could beat i3s in modern games, I totally understand for FX 8320/8350/8370 since they still perform pretty ok in modern demanding games unlike the 6300 and old i3s. The crazy thing is that the fx 6300 in 2013 and beyond was priced below all i3s and the 8320 was typically found at the price of an i3, which is why I recommended them for pretty much every budget build and would only recommend intel if you could get at least an i5, which would be paired with at least a 300$ gpu, anything lower and there was no reason not to go for fx.

[@filiphedman4392]

You spitting some truth my man.

[@iamherenotheretobe]

Loved that processor, FX 8320 I won the silicon lottery with. 5.2 ghz at 1.4895 volts. Water cooling of course. Sitting here right now with a 3950x. AMD sure has come a long ways.

[@TheMadHaxor]

Loved my 9370FX BE, Fixed OC at 4.7Ghz all cores with a H100i (V1 and V2), topping 68-72c. Only upgraded as wanted more cores for graphical workflow, editing, code compiling ect. Ran a r9 290x windforce OC with it and would run anything I through at it med to high at 1080p@144herts. currently running a 2950x TR with the same R9 290x until I can get my paws on a 5700xt, Likely the Nitro pulse, or GB windforce.

[@danielmdax]

6:40 Which site are you using to compare the CPU Performance?

[@RATechYT]

cpu-monkey.com All the sources are linked in the description.

[@igorcarrascoyt]

Thank you for educating me. You gained a sub! Cheers!

[@Ersanven]

I've moved on to an i7 9700K but my FX 8300 served me well for a few good years and I keep that computer in my room nice and covered up at the ready should I need it.

[@sophustranquillitastv4468]

Then, How to make benchmark clip with multiple system in the same scene the real time like that channel.

[@ttfd]

Hi , can you please suggest the best single-core performer cpu on a budget of 120-130 $ ?

[@RATechYT]

Ryzen 3 3300X. Upcoming 10th gen i3's are also going to be boosting quite high.

[@ttfd]

@@RATechYT what do you think about the operational temperature? i've heard they're quite hot

[@RATechYT]

@@ttfd 10th gen doesn't seem to be as hot as everyone anticipated. As for the 3300X, they run cool.

[@Kota0027]

Loved my FX-8300 oc'd to 4.75 ghz but recently upgraded bc i got a killer deal on an i7-6800k/x99 mobo combo for $150

[@Matze96DAK]

That deal was sick, i tell ya.

[@peppa1492]

I have a FX8300 (upgraded from FX6300 in late 2017) and... It's AMAZING!! It runs with less stutters than the previous one, runs smoothly (even when playing the division 2 at higher graphics preset), can render quite fast (my opinion - tested on Camtazia 9 while making 3 minute projects), and sometimes even defies laws of physics, thermodynamics, my country and cheese. All of that with basic clocks?! I've considered overclocking... In 2 years, maybe. I'll probably switch to a new MB when DDR5 is 2 years old (price might drop). When it's paired with eurobeat, nothing can stop it (except for my old USB drive which crashed the whole PC instantly).

[@tschoero12]

Thank you, i do really enjoy your work *thumbs up* additionaly, a little correction has to be outspoken: The Quadcore i5-7600K has following specs: 4x 3.8 GHz Baseclock and 4.2 GHz Turboclock

[@NerdyMeathead]

This is awesome! I have young nephews that want to get into building computers. This old stuff can be had for dirt cheap 2nd hand and would be great to learn how to build a pc. I will check around craigs list for parts today!

[@MsIndycar]

I still sport my fx8150 which was paired with hd5770 and upped to r9 280x and now 5700xt I can still run all my games at max settings

[@DigBipper188]

I loved my 8150 and it was an alright performer. The only reason I really swapped it out is because I needed a CPU that was more power efficient and far better performing. also, my 8150 was a terrible overclocker and wouldn't go past +200MHz on theCore even at 1.5v vCore and the HTBUS was super unstable unless I kept it stock. I now run an R5 2600 and will be looking into going with a R5 2600 or better as they have additional IPC gains.

[@MrHeHim]

I used a PC i built years ago with a FX-6100 @4GHz and it was noticeably slower than a Phenom ii x6 1090t i peaced together for my nephew @3.75GHz, I remember how they had to clean house and fire the architects responsible for dropping IPC for MHz mostly just ending up with same performance but also acting as a space heater. They did have better performance, just not for real time computing because the cache was too bloated and killed latency.

[@AmstradExin]

I still use the A8 5600K that I found at the dump with Mobo, Case and PSU for 6€

[@adeadlyfart13]

Still rocking AMD Phenom II OC'd to 4.00 GHz on 4 cores

[@narethliansgamespace3860]

@samantha tang The Phenom 2s never ran hot unless you heavily OCed, and a decent mid-range cooler could keep them down in temp. The FX did run a bit hotter, but could run a slight OC on the Box cooler, whereas all but a few of the Intel Box coolers are known to be absolutely craptacular on a good day and only useful as paperweights, and that's if it even came with a cooler at all. The only decent Intel Box coolers, IIRC, came on Socket 775 on the High-end Core processors.

[@narethliansgamespace3860]

@samantha tang Take your last response and look at yourself in the Mirror. No PC tech, Check. I mean a 2.8ghz single core is maybe good for windows XP and some light non-video browsing. Fanfiction.net maybe and that's about it. You certainly aren't doing video editing with something like that, unless you want to spend an hour to render 5 minutes of video. Gamer, Dunno. Can't be bothered to check. Hothead? Check. Getting snide and nasty with someone who didn't even have an attitude in his first response to you. You are 2/3 of exactly what you called me. Now back to me. PC Tech? Not officially, but I got my first computer in 1993 at the age of 15, and a year later, built my second with my earnings from my first job. I've forgotten more about computer tech than you've ever known. So, no check there. Gamer? Yes, check that one. Hot head? No, well, in this post maybe. So, half a check. In the last post, where did I even come across as having an attitude, except for a minor one toward Intel Box coolers, and in this post, toward a belligerent know-it-all that literally knows nothing at all? So, congratulations, you're maybe half right about me. Do the world (and yourself) a favor and pull your head out of your butt and apply it to actually learning something instead of being a ignorant idiot with an attitude.

[@narethliansgamespace3860]

@samantha tang Not fast enough for my games? Gaming is not something that i do for competition or money. it's a hobby for relaxation, just like some people watch sports or racing. As far as some 'overclocking cult', I would not be keeping my computers for a 5 year average if I was that way. That 's right! Most of my systems last 5+ years! I couldn't do that unless *gasp* i know how to repair computers! Components only get replaced when they suffer hardware failures that I can't fix. Have you ever straightened the pins on a CPU that someone else wrote off as dead and resurrected a computer? How about straightening the LGA lands on a Intel Mainboard? Do you have a hot-air rework station and replaced capacitors that blew out on a Mainboard? Or used it to replace VRM chokes on a Graphics card and brought it back to life? Have you ever desoldered and swapped a bios chip between Hard Drive controller boards to resurrect a dead hard drive so you can recover data off of it? I've done all the above, multiple times, not just for me, but for my friends and family. In just my family alone there are 3 computers, not counting my personal/render rigs, that I maintain. Count in my friends/co-workers and there's another 6 at least. Some of those computers are over 10 years old and still running strong. Don't tell me I can't/don't repair computers because you have a flawed image of 'gamers' in your head. All you are doing here is proving more and more YOUR ignorance.

[@narethliansgamespace3860]

@samantha tang It's obvious to me that you haven't actually read anything I've said.

[@Dave-dh7rt]

@Narethlian's Gamespace and the coolers that came with Gulftown were also good, like the i7-990X.

[@333deathprone333]

My fx6350 at 4.9ghz did it's job just fine

[@ch3rok33jo3]

Gave my dad my old FX-6300@4.8GHz/1060 3GB he likes it for Doom 2016 at over 100 FPS on ultra

[@morantaylor]

I was using a bulldozer FX 8150 running at 4.4GHz with AIO water cooling that was purchased in 2012. In July 2019 it was replaced by a Ryzen 7 3700X. There was no issue playing games when paired with the right video card.

[@leoneldeleon6311]

I like my Fx 8320e better than my i5 6400. Fx processors still running good in 2021.

[@taotechnique]

Excellent video man. Very good info, well spoken, great stuff. I just found your channel, and just subscribed.

[@RATechYT]

Thank you!

[@aschraub9897]

Thankfully AMD has gotten 5 million times better with their stock coolers. I remember I had a FX 6120 back in the day and when I upgraded the mobo and cooler from OEM parts when I got a gtx 960 the stock cooler was incredibly small and had gotten so hot my FX 6120 had char marks on it! It was a surprisingly solid CPU tho and was plenty for my gtx 960 back then. Rockin an i5 6600k and gtx 1060 6gb nowadays and honestly I don't feel I will need an upgrade till I get a 4k TV might even be able to just get away with overclocking the 6600k to 4.5 ghz all core if I don't go higher than the 5700XT otherwise the 3700X is a no brainer or hell I bet I would be plenty happy with a 3600

[@justadreamerfl]

So how much I can overclock my FX 6300 untill temperature limit? Can I go as high as 75C?

[@RATechYT]

Ideally you don't want to exceed 75°C. 70-72 is where I'd stop.

[@patrickkilduff5272]

Yea...I always felt this way when I had my 8350...I upgraded to a Ryzen 3 1200AF...and feel like the FX chip was actually a tab faster in multi threaded apps. I plan to get a Ryzen 7 when I can afford it...which is why I upgraded...had to get new MB and ram...so had to cheap out on the CPU for now...

[@ivo3598]

Yea i would not go for ryzen 9 ryzen 5 or 7 is more then enough

[@ToastyBeard_]

Same here I am still rocking an FX 8350 it's overclocked to 4.6ghz

[@reki353]

One issue my father had with an fx-6300 was that the motherboard vrms would overheat constantly on stock speeds.

[@bass-dc9175]

Friend of mine runs a FX 8150 and that chip to this day lets him game (tho not modern titles. WOW, WC3, Starcraft, League of Legends, Pubg etc.) untill Zen2 hits the market. The performance is underwhelming, but the chips where okay for a long time. While 2-4 core chips slowly turned from good performance to irrelevancy, the FX chips held their okayish performance up untill the approach of 6 core 12 thread cpus with Zen and Coffeelake.

[@hatemadness]

This video is great. I have an i5 8400 and with a particular editing software it's either matching or beating a ryzen 3800 and I was confused. Now it makes sense. It depends on what each processor is dealing with.

[@irregularmana6216]

Love my fx chip. I had two intel chips shit out on me and due to how some stupid return policy I was sol. I've been AMD since then for all my builds and have been happy. Also LinusDicktips LMFAOO!!

[@Dave-dh7rt]

I don’t understand why people think that Intel is more reliable than AMD. I have had 2 Intel rigs and 1 AMD rig with a Ryzen and the Intel rigs wont even allow me to turn hyper threading on anymore. (Lynnfield i7-870) They also have problems with crashing sometimes and are generally less stable than my Ryzen 2600 overclocked to 4GHz on all cores.

[@codispeaks313]

I know this is old and I'm late but because you helped clear the air on proper testing you gained a sub keep up the good work!

[@akashnandy5115]

A proud FX-8350 owner, paired with Sabertooth 990FX R2.0, I never looked back.

[@dinocorreia1202]

Here in Portugal still have my FX 6300 OC at 4.5Ghz with a Asus Strix OC 8Gb and....impossible ask for more

[@dinocorreia1202]

@joyela aeuvunya 6330? And your GPU?

[@31LR176]

meu fx8300 Sempre fundo,rx570 4gb Strix 1080p a maximo.Abx

[@s1d3k1ckRO]

I can get a 8350 for 40 euros to replace my 6300. Is it worth it? I will upgrade to R5 3600 spring 2021 hopefully but I want the power boost until then.

[@tres2112]

You got a witness in me. I still run, since 2015, FX8350 @4.8 stable on a Sabertooth 990x R2. Can't remember it giving me any headaches all this time. I also have an Asus ROG GTX 1080Ti.

[@stevesmith1383]

You won't have an issues, but damn what a bottleneck

[@ivo3598]

Steve Smith yea better have stronger cpu you cant bottleneck cpu onlygpu

[@Logan800]

how many more fps will i get when i upgrade my AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core, 12-Thread to a AMD FX-8350 4.0 GHz? and id it worth the upgrade?

[@RATechYT]

I'm not sure I got that right. You want to upgrade to the Ryzen 5 3600 from your FX-8350, or thinking of buying an FX-8350 as an "upgrade" to your current Ryzen 5 3600 build?

[@lju2640]

One the best channels i have come across so far. This guy has no side, his just here to tell the facts. Thanks

[@amdintelxsniperx]

fx was one of my favorite platforms

[@dansalmon2698]

it ate the durons for lunch lol

[@amdintelxsniperx]

@@dansalmon2698 I'm building another FX platform atk I git 32gb ECC ram in it an Asus m970 le2.0 phenom x6 but will be swapping to FX 6300 or 8350 soon I had an 8120 but my liquid cooler pump is acting up and it hit 98 c abd killed s memory channel so I'm stuck on phenom lol 😂

[@Enemisses]

Still using an FX-6300 in 2024 (my main rig died and this is my old one I've recently revived). It's still quite capable and honestly, the FX series CPU's aged very gracefully. They were ahead of their time in core count and those extra cores plus their great overclocking capacity are allowing them to still cling onto relevance even 12+ years later now. That's incredibly impressive for a ~$130 chip I bought in 2012. Paired with a decent GPU this FX6300 can still play modern titles at 30-50fps.

[@Megadeth1311]

greetings from bavaria!! keep youre FX!!!!!!! still running a fx 8350 on a asrock pro3m clocked to 4,968mhz on 1.5 volts,32gigs ram clocked at 1660mhz. runs ok since 3jears now. i paired it with a rx 580 overclocked to 1480mhz and every game runs fine on 1080p with max to ultra settings. temps on gpu are a litttle bit high, but it holds the clockspeed on 80c. prozessor is cooled by a cheap 280aio cpu stays on 64c on an aida64 stresstest.

[@Nevoness]

Just be careful to not fry your memory controller on the FX.. Did that to my 8320 :( They really don't like motherboards that don't have great LLC and sometimes spike the voltage, since 1.5v for not even 5GHz is quite high. I ran my 8370 at 1.45v while clocking at 5.2GHz stable, likely won the silicon lottery for once ^^

[@SleepyRulu]

Thank you

[@elerian9702]

It was ahead of its time, at the time of release, most software that was used was from circa 2008-2011 which didn't utilize more than 2 cores in games and programs. Gaming and video editing and playback was 720p or 1080p. So technically, it was faster in heavily multithreaded applications, but their low availability/usage at the time caused the FX to slip to shadows rather quickly. There were many of such examples in computer development, the great product and great idea behind it, but if it could not be accommodated to the market of the era, it usually wasn't successful.

[@catherinemorgan2741]

I have I5 3570 what to get a fx4300 which I should get don't play a lot of new games (Raid, DDO,Neverwinter, Baldurs gate 3,) or some games (path of exile,Skyrim)

[@TheSimonarne]

i just changed my boost multiplier in the bios so my fx8350 boosts to 4.5 could probably get it to boost higher but kept the stock voltages

[@fahrizaljohari3821]

i'm getting fx 8320 in 2 weeks... now running on fx 4300... still awesome tho

[@laginw]

I'm using FX6100 no oc at all, still working fine, i'm planning on building a new 3rd gen Ryzen PC, but not because my FX6100 cant handle my work, it's just that i wanted to build a new PC, this CPU just worth every dollar you've spent on it

[@Reyfox1]

Wife is still using my FX8350 with RSX570 and is extremely happy. Comparing frame rates vs my 1700X and RX480, while my computer is "faster" it's not by much really.

[@purpleezah5382]

still remember a friend of mine who bought an I5 when it was new (first or second gen) and he was so amazed by its performance. Now he only has fps problems in like every game and cant even run csgo over 100fps. My Fx8300 still going strong on 4.1ghz thx to your oc guide.

[@RATechYT]

Glad you found the guide helpful!

[@yoshinoyorita4807]

Why is he having framerate problems now? Is it because of the outdated drivers?

[@patrickc8007]

First or second gen i5 makes a huge difference, not to mention some 1st gen i5s were dual cores.

[@JoeRichardRules]

Awesome info, just liked and subbed :)

[@RATechYT]

Thank you, Joe!

[@GabrielM01]

Running my FX 6300 at 4.1GHZ with 35-40ºC on iddle and 50-55ºC under load Using a Segotep ICE 120

[@MrZZooh]

Great analysis. It seems like AMD's vision has always been a little ahead of their competitors' but lack of money and poor management left them with inferior products. But none of this FX performance in modern games makes them good CPUs. They are just not as bad as everyone thought they were.

[@shadowopsairman1583]

Yawn, it proved intel parts are obsolete

[@asengeorgiev5039]

I am using an FX8350 with a GTX 1080ti with a 2K/144Mhz monitor, not a single game drops below 50-60fps. On WoW i get steady 100+ fps on CS:GO from 150-200 FPS. Multitasking is not a problem also! FX is crap you say, the hell you say?! Until a game hits the market that cant be run on this system, i dont see the need to upgrade it. 7 years old and still rolling.

[@ivo3598]

You bottleneck gpu you should be getting with that gpu like 300-450fps.. so stupid

[@ivo3598]

I play 180-300fps with 1060 gaming x with fx 9590

[@kvjk188]

I have 9370fx still combined with 1070ti and i can play all games 60fps with max settings.. Only thing i but on mid settings is shades

[@Jabid21]

I recently bought a 970m Pro 3 Mobo, FX 6300 cpu and 16gb ddr3 (don't remember the speed) memory combo for $60 USD off a kid who upgraded to a Ryzen system. Seems like a great deal to me. I'm doing an experimental build to "upgrade" my Dell Dimension E521 with an AM2 Athlon 64 X2 from 13 years ago. The big challenge is the system is built on a micro BTX case and the case has proprietary USB port and power button and LED connectors. I also have an i5-9400F and a Ryzen 1600 build that I was able to build on the cheap for budget system comparison

[@Kynareth6]

If games properly used all cores, FX-8350 would be better than all i5 and i3.

[@gp556by45]

Exactly why I had bought AMD when I built my first real gaming PC in 2011. Still using the same ASUS M5A97 EVO motherboard, PC Power and Cooling MkII psu, and Antec 300 case. Started out the the Athlon II X4 640, then to the Phenom II X6 1100T, then to the FX8350. GPU wise, went from the HD 6770, then to the HD 6950, then to a free replacement to a HD 7870, then finally to the RX 580 that I have now. All in all, the system has served me VERY well.

[@luispanaderoguardeno3306]

I redo a little benchmark (n body problem resolver. Serie vs paralallel) on my FX8370E before I get a upgrade to a R5 3700x. The most interesting thing, is that this benchmark I ran i on a old server Opteron 16 core (no FX microarch). Sadly, I don't remeber the model. But the point is that on the 16 core Opteron, I managed to get a speedup of ~11 times over the serie version. Like ~70% of the max teorical speedup. On my FX8370, I get a speedup like ~6.4 times... Like ~80% of the theoretical seedup. It's interesting, because it's handling heavy float point code like a true 8 core cpu.

[@patchouli3422]

My FX-6100 held on pretty well for a chip that got slagged back in the day. Same for the FX-8300 I eventually upgraded to.

[@BigT1984]

I still have a FX8320 build sitting around for back up

[@xxWarbloodxx]

I have an FX8350 and use my pc for both gaming and product/architecture rendering. For me, this CPU was amazing value and is still holding out pretty well. Coupled with an RTX 2080 on a 1440p ultrawide monitor (which already pushes the RTX 2080 to its limits on highest settings), it functions quite decently. Will be upgrading to Ryzen 9 3900x soon - the more cores the merrier for me - but will keep the FX 8350 with my old 4GB GTX 680 as a secondary PC.

[@roax206]

I wouldn't be surprised if half of the power usage complaints came down to the 1.4 voltage setting that AMD seemingly loved shipping everything with. When I am overclocking an AMD CPU the first thing I do is turn the voltage down.

[@tilburg8683]

It's pretty decent how I remember, and I used it recently I got a FX8350, with a big tower, fan hub, 5fans a hughe cooler, 550&650w antect PSUs 16gb ram 320gb hdd and a hd5700( it's pretty bad but I'll probably have some use for it).

[@IgoByaGo]

The FX series is the only AMD processor family that I skipped since the K6-2 days. I had a Phenom II x6 1035T and had no reason to upgrade. I wish I would have bought one just to have it though.

[@RATechYT]

I'm actually going to start working on a Phenom II X6 video soon, and will also compare it to the FX in a separate video. Funny enough I never owned a Phenom, very curious how they're going to stack up compared to each other.

[@lagginswag]

@@RATechYT nice

[@markbuckley6672]

I only retired my 8350fx when the ryzen7 3700x came out. The 8350fx was a great chip that matured well.

[@Megadeth1311]

i used the fx 8350 @4.8ghz with a rx 580 on a asrock micro atx board with custom vram cooling. it runs still okay for 1080p gaming.