Please Don't Blame the Girls

[@artisticanimedreamerchohui1029]

Whats really crazy bout this is that literally like 99% of them werent even fat. Like what fat is there to even lose.

[@marissaflip8707]

ArtisticAnimeDreamer ChohuiDance4Ever i know it’s 100% I mean there’s NO FAT in them

[@yishi.4466]

@@marissaflip8707 there is but the healthy type we all have fats if we didn't have fats then we would just be skeletons but I get what you mean by fats... "excess fats" and NONE OF THEM EVEN HAVE 1 POUND OF EXTRA FAT NONE LIKE WTF WHY DO PEOPLE CALL THEM FAT??

[@sodalir8653]

They don't have any access fat and even if they had a little what is that going to change but really they want them to lose skin cause that's all they are basically

[@mariunfabregas7533]

No, what's _really_ crazy is the fact that the people who shame dols for being "fat" are usually fatter than the idols they criticize😕

[@micheyam1ch3y43]

Going by the nhs standard of healthy weight the woman that was 177cm, was considered underweight. Like the nhs consider 75kg up to be healthy weight. Like wth?

[@purushothaman8538]

"we starve to death, we have low self esteem, we are called ugly" tv show hosts : BAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA OMFG SO FUNNY LMFAO

[@lisalalisa182]

True... it's really a sad reality

[@dylanthomasbraxton4916]

to be fair i think they laughed it off because if the hosts dared commented on how the starving part sounds like mistreatment, it would cause a scandal on their part and may even risk their jobs.

[@purushothaman8538]

@@dylanthomasbraxton4916 they couldve atleast said "oh thats sad" and moved on

[@cSedx00022]

@@purushothaman8538 Yeah. All that laughing was unnecessary af

[@nevergonnagiveyouupnevergo9439]

Your mother died today tv show hosts: OMG *LMFAO*

[@estepark7294]

I like how taeyeon defend Seulgi and Wendy to thier managers, she's such a good unnie.

[@miguelmartinez9687]

That guy who pointed out Sulli's "fat" made me sick to my stomach. She was too precious for this cruel world and it makes me happy seeing all of the times Amber defended and stepped up for her.

[@keererhdgejs1246]

that man should look in the mirror himself before judging others like he looks like a fucking rat nd had the audacity to say 'loose weight' to a person who looked soo beautiful

[@viri6509]

he literally looked like a dinosaur

[@nikki3355]

yes it fills me with so much rage. He had the audacity to go into specifics in front of a crowd and that completely disregards her feelings. These types of comments may stick with someone forever.

[@minari1044]

Ofcourse is a man

[@addictedtoprocrastination9986]

Yes. And what's sadder is her first instinct was to say "I'm planning on losing the weight". She's conditioned to think she's never good enough that she has to make excuses to a stranger about her body. I really admire the girls actively trying to criticize and defy the unfair standards in kpop, but they're so few and far between because the industry destroys most girls' self-esteem to the point they can never speak up.

[@ayeshaazmat230]

the thing I hate most is when the girls try to talk about these issues people shut them down, telling them it's a part of their job

[@LaurenGrz]

Exactly! The fact that it’s a part of the job is the problem! That’s why people are talking about it.

[@mymiialm1316]

IU suffered about this in the past

[@reinas9666]

I know it's healthy to have a proportional body but some idols are skinny and yet their label told them to do diet. Idol can die by starving.

[@naihgeislerfexica4447]

So what?! Imma shut them down too! tsk!

[@violetsden]

@@naihgeislerfexica4447 Ok then.

[@zei9379]

One word explains all: disgusting treatment.

[@evl7341]

Seb Nick agree w you but that’s 2 words

[@radioactivepi734]

Which word

[@dinaadriana8984]

That's two

[@juul2250]

I absolutely agree with you and this is indeed disgusting, but they're 2 words

[@LilliaGreen7977]

I feel like Hwa Sa laughed a lot to cover up the fact that she was hurt by what the head of the agency said.

[@ebele.i7484]

It’s really sad 😢

[@shizunnanase543]

@@ebele.i7484 I don't sleep because of it. 😢

[@Deryatari]

Probably true. I would feel incredibly hurt if someone would say things like that to me. Also, it's absolutely stupid, because all of Mamamoo's members are gorgeous, beautiful - inside and outside.

[@zuinotr2550]

That's sad. Poor my queen Hwasa(〒﹏〒)

[@shizunnanase543]

@@zuinotr2550 Now the agency must be Thinking what they did back then was a shame for them

[@saanvisharma2126]

Taeyeon is a queen for defending Wendy and Seulgi.

[@s.seulbae]

Ikr 🥺

[@bdn3832]

So is amber from fx for defending her members

[@sanaandyujusslave1121]

Maybe if she defended her own member 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@momoring7424]

@@sanaandyujusslave1121 you do know wendy and seulgi are younger than her. if anything she wouldn't want any of them to be told they're too fat or anything but at least she stood up for someone. we don't know if she stood up for her members behind the scenes or anything.

[@c00chie_men.official]

@@butterflytae0903 but have you ever been a part of snsd hm?

[@sennataylor592]

Amber has such restraint while defending Sulli. I was expecting her to yell at the guy or something.

[@akb48frenchfansite96]

Senna Taylor she have her image to protect too :(

[@priyankaamusiclover]

That's why I respect Amber Liu so much .. One of the reason why she is my favourite ( one of the favourite ) .. Amber Unni is really great

[@letssmile3564]

She does stand up for her, but not like yell YELLING more polite. Watch the full video of it :D

[@amirakhaldi5101]

Hey friend , if you have some time go check my KZbin channel 😉

[@minhtrang6620]

That man's standard was disgusting, Sulli was already so skinny and beautiful at the time. We can see how she became super conscious when he said that. Just plain disgusting to judge a young girl with that unhealthy standard.

[@namreblis]

thats so gross. just let girls be in control of their own bodies.

[@trashy_ashy2490]

I agree let them eat all they want REAL fans would support them no matter what and fake bitches should leave if they don’t like it

[@nafirahyumniharahap8726]

But the truth is when they're on the thin side it opens more chance to them. They can be in more magazine and be a muse of some brand. They 're like a model, if they use the clothes prettily it will make people want to buy it. It means more money, fame, and fans which is the point of them being idol (harsh i know but its real 😭)

[@trashy_ashy2490]

@@nafirahyumniharahap8726 It really doesnt matter about the body tho i agree with the part that people want thin people but i think it should depend on charecter, personality,attitude...But you opinion counts

[@yellowblobby]

idols*

[@athwaithakrishnan3848]

What really pissed me off is that these men's looking like a living potato speaks about standards!

[@mohdrahimi6374]

I am also an ugly potato but i respect and love women just like how i love my mom

[@agathasaraswati1330]

Indeed

[@taeyongworlddomination5705]

Hey are u from India...just asking..

[@athwaithakrishnan3848]

@@mohdrahimi6374 looks doesn't matter I respect you fo being kind to others

[@athwaithakrishnan3848]

@@taeyongworlddomination5705 yeah 😊

[@jeojiibnida987]

the thing that worries me the most is that everyone is laughing about it and doesn't realise how DISGUSTING and TOXIC this is

[@sharu1029]

Exactly, I just can't understand how in the world is this funny? Is it something wrong with my brain?

[@manjupillai7715]

its all fun and games cause the toxicity is unseen and "normal" there !

[@kritika0950]

they do know as well , but they gotta act funny and all so things dont get weird and awkward

[@MilotusLucifera]

They do know but they can't really do anything about it so they gotta make it look not too problematic to the public. There's a reason so many girl groups disband on their own volition

[@101dream2]

Remember what Hwasa said "If I cant get to Korean beauty standard, I will build my own standard"

[@g.ale21]

and she is divine

[@audreylaurel]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@d.h.7314]

She is a queen

[@priyankaamusiclover]

It should have to be every ladies saying .. Like "if you don't like me than don't cause I don't even care about you and I will gonna make my own way by my own specialities . your words doesn't matter even for a little bit"

[@timeoftheend9516]

Hwasa is absolute queen, legend she is the only female k-idol I admire 👍♥

[@brianna9822]

Millions need to see this. These idols are shamed into these situations. Edit: this can also be said for the young people growing up in the korean society, dealing with harsh bullying into being skinny and weighing less. It can be tough growing up like this, and they lose sense of who they are. 💕💝Make sure to send love to people who need it during these times, as well as idols and people struggling with weight-related issues and bullying. Xx

[@estelaangeles2346]

Its the company forcing them to lose weight and suga said he had to lose weight in 2018 also jin said the ceo or manager called jin fat

[@unseasoned3629]

Estela Angeles Okay But I’m mainly mad how boy groups don’t have to worry about their weight but girls groups do

[@nikodismal8386]

@@unseasoned3629 They do, though. One fan who went to a Monsta X fansign,for example, said that Wonho told her that Starship didn't want him having "chubby cheeks" at the time. Jimin from BTS has constantly talked about trying to trim down as much as possible. TY from NCT says he eats nothing but oatmeal. These are just some of the things I can think of off the top of my head. Nonetheless, it's the backlash that's far more overt and severe against the girls.

[@valdusoswald7130]

Woman* are shamed by Korean men & even the women join in too.

[@haneyqistina9038]

Is not idols only but EVERY WOMAN IN KOREAN

[@amandamenin8959]

how is calling a person “fat” and “ugly” in front of them considered normal?? omg this is disgusting

[@zalinad7369]

I used to think no one said things like that too because I'm skinny but actually it's VERY common my sister get comments from my family all the time and she has flat stomach

[@expensivegurl1112]

Believe me its quite common no matter what body type you have.. im genetically underweight and people would just criticize me for it with "are you anorexic?" "You're so thin" In public..

[@amandamenin8959]

Zalina D from the family i think is more normal, but obviously still not cool

[@amandamenin8959]

expensive gurl uωu that’s so rude of them, and i think that is actually part of the culture of the country to say things like that informally right? because in my country, most of the time you just say thinks like that if you are intimate with the person, but in korea apparently not...

[@amandamenin8959]

PerrySport yass queen

[@WATWUZDAREASON]

I remember this girl group said that they don't even get their period anymore because of the excessive dieting.

[@Iseeyou0165]

wth...period sucks but it is important..they might die at this stage...may ik which girl group it is?

[@WATWUZDAREASON]

I think it was Lovelyz. They were being interviewed by Heechul.

[@thesevenkingswelove9554]

That's so horrible

[@tpwk_ghvodka6479]

Omg... What if something even worse happens next?!

[@fruitjuiceandzerocoke]

@@WATWUZDAREASON WTF!!! This is not right!! In some cases, the girls may find it difficult to have children in the future

[@cami9298]

"I'm a boy and you're a girl"-the most 𝘀𝘁𝘂𝗽𝗶𝗱 reason i have ever heard.

[@lamiah.2938]

Im suprised Shindong acc said that

[@teddybearjellysubliminals8798]

Bang Si Hyuk Ikr... I kinda lost respect for him after reading that.

[@aeiara]

Thing is, I definitely say his words are absolutely wrong, they are supposed to be admonished, but remember he said those words many many years ago. His opinions on this definitely changed, I'm sure he is respectful these days, because I know how much a person can change in a span of years. I'm not justifying his statement, it is extremely bad, but, he is definitely not the same anymore. He is respectful to women, I'm sure he changed. But if he makes a comment like this in the recent years, I don't see the reason to like him anymore. But it was many many years ago, so just think about it. He's definitely changed. His behaviour these days show that.

[@gohondieli9232]

@@aeiara but is he respectful to all women or to the pretty ones? Because that would say a lot.

[@betxlvr4836]

I heard that he said years ago and he changed 👍

[@damara5618]

One thing that is bothering me is that in all these shows, the problems with their weights and their CEOs are being shown as funny and not serious. Everyone is laughing about it

[@katgreer6113]

Fr wtf? It ain't funny.

[@V707-y6s]

Bruh it’s the only way they can complain or else they gonna be treated like shit even more, it’s actually sad and I’m fuming

[@damara5618]

@@V707-y6s Yes and it really makes me angry

[@rion6206]

I see that these women didn't laugh tho (except for the ones who called jihyo fat, too), they really got bothered, and making fun of this is a way they can tell these things. Maybe it's not taken seriously because Korea still very sexist and male chauvinist (idk if it's wrong, I'm not that fluent in English lol), several countries are like this, Korea is just one of them.

[@velvet8859]

they think it is funny? pathetic. it's not funny at all

[@emmasi532]

"I would never date an ugly girl , because there's no girl the world who's ugly" - Lay Zhang ( Exo )

[@ZetsumiSekai]

Yixing is such a sweetheart ❤

[@katielee7364]

i'm sure if he saw me he'd change that opinion real quick

[@МилаЈовановска]

@@katielee7364 aww sweetie don't say that ☹️ I'm sure you're beautiful

[@elcrego]

Gentleman of all times

[@saikicoffeejelly8643]

we stannnn periodt✨

[@ava-tf1ni]

“You’re a female idol, so you need to lose weight” always sickens me to hear. like no, their job is to sing and dance, not to starve themselves, and suffer from low self esteem for their entire lives.

[@julianaaloisa5525]

Just wanna give a quick shoutout to the girls defending each other. Especially the more established girls like Taeyeon and Hyuna who have the (admittedly very little) power to speak up.

[@anadammifalastini594]

And amber!

[@dirgmario]

In tons of comments, people say: “oh, that guy looks awful, how dares he to judge any girl?”, but let me tell you: Even if these guys were top male 1% professional models, that still wouldn’t give them any right to judge idols’ looks.

[@ataud9754]

This

[@bekcha4170]

That’s true, but if they don’t take care of themselves they have no right to expect girls to be at their “in their opinion best”, it’s hypocrisy. Everyone has their own standards and that’s totally okay, but no one has a right to tell other people how to look

[@rosa-zh9sx]

THIS!!! Thank you for writing this!!

[@minyaw1234]

Yes he has every right to, idols want the money from fans - idol business is a visual one. They don't sell fruits, they sell their image and songs. If you sell fruits and your customer doesn't tell you they taste like shit, you will go bankrupt. Simple as that.

[@O_Ciel_Phant0mhive]

well said !

[@sanaamariam5193]

I feel like the most despicable thing is how journalists and interviewers will press idols for answers about their weight, and EXPLICITLY for their hardest diets, nothing about sustainable healthy lifestyles. Several times I've seen idols edited with funny effects after saying they nearly died from their diets. Everyone wants to ask idols how they lose weight, but no one wants to ask how badly they suffered

[@thehainote1082]

Sanaa Mariam exactly! I’ve always found that so disturbing how they edited as if the idols’ suffering is a funny joke

[@btsmochimi7924]

Damn Korea's beauty standards are one of the worst cases that I've seen so far....

[@estelaangeles2346]

@@btsmochimi7924 i remember when suga said in 2018 that he had to lose weight and jin said the ceo of bighit bullied him

[@milkbread5036]

@@estelaangeles2346 where was this? :o

[@mopeacho]

I remember when Momo said she only ate an ice cube for a week (i think) and she was scared she would gain weight even from that.

[@mariaaguirre6730]

09:15 Taeyeon, thank you for your existence, really, thanks.

[@starrynightfall00]

Agreed

[@reesemalo]

2NE1 was marketed as being ugly. It hit them hard, especially Minzy. Being so young growing up in such a negative environment is terrible. Debuting at 14 is difficult enough already

[@Mighty.Matcha.]

but despite that they showcased their talents really well.Ngl I used to find 2NE1 ugly as well ( that was when i was around 9 when first saw them ) but as time goes on, their talents outshined their looks and I was stanning them for their artistry and found them really cool. I feel that YG lost a group of legends due to his trash ass of a decision to be biased towards BP, these ladies have proved that their talents can outshine their looks, it isn't easy to prove that unless you have an insane amount of talent, YG you are human trash

[@YannNovas]

People still call Bom a plastic monster when everything she did was just to fit their ridiculous beauty standards. It's heartbreaking.

[@stavros2644]

@@Mighty.Matcha. "biased towards blackpink" huh... how exactly is he biased towards the only senior group in the industry right now with no full album and only 13 songs? if you really knew about yg you would know that 2ne1 was bound disband with minzy needing a break and blackpink were actually supposed to debut in 2012. stop trying to make it seem like it's blackpink's fault.

[@sparklingruth]

@@YannNovas she also had plastic surgery not to fit their standarts, i heard it's also because she have that special condition like minzy that force them to have plastic surgery. Those people who called her plastic monster rlly disgusting, bom was also really pretty before her plastic surgery.

[@beatm6948]

They don't completely fit a very specific standard, but regardless are beautiful.

[@amfgvideos2517]

I've been seeing an increasing number of Toxic comments shaming and blaming these girls for sharing their diets and I know it's not healthy but they are just acting on what they've been taught and learned to do. It's important to remember the majority of idols don't have eating disorders and are not part of some sick pro-ana group, they are being pressured and at times forced to go on starvation diets because they're told they can't work otherwise. But they themselves also hate it and don't want to do it either.

[@kkuuuuaa]

It seems like one of the most stressful workplaces to ever be in. The fact that people blame the girls and guys is entirely beside the point. In an environment and even country that enables this sort of pressure, can you really blame them when your career you worked so hard for is on the line?

[@kuko333]

glad you addressed it with a video

[@9Angstroms]

Thank you so much for this video. It was incredibly eye-opening. Could you please do a video for Dilraba Dilmurat? 🙏

[@UBZ.7927]

I love your videos, its like a biography of the person since debut to now, its really shocking to see how many hate some people have to resist every day. Can you do one of Hwasa of Mamamoo?? I dont have money for Patreon, but i think that she has a pretty rough story with fat shaming as well.

[@spicygirl8369]

What is the show at 6:08 ? Where can I watch it with English subtitles please

[@offgun6466]

Hitomi: *has chubby cheeks* Knetz: She's fat Hitomi: *gets skinny* Knetz: Does she eat?

[@rosemilkthy]

hitomi has lost a scary amount of weight. especially as shes known for her cute cheeks; she doesnt have them anymore. its sad and worrying

[@offgun6466]

just an egg True but all of this stems from unrealistic Korean beauty standards

[@gummiecheol1912]

and that's just really sad

[@SCab-oj5ce]

Knetz every minute: J U D G E S Okay maybe not all knetz but you get the point😅

[@thuhienle1814]

Not everyone is perfect. Knetizen are scary.

[@beththompson2253]

the fact that the women said her dad would starve her since primary school is so heartbreaking

[@Moon-hr2xh]

“...Girls have to be visually pleasing and talented whereas a guy can be ugly but if he’s funny they’ll say he’s charming...” - 4MINUTE Nam Jihyun (Leader)

[@petrasb1]

Nonsense. Men are being judged by the looks as well. "guy can be ugly but if he’s funny they’ll say he’s charming". Same can be said about girl.

[@moomooradish7466]

@@petrasb1 Nope, women are not called charming if they don't look the part. give one name

[@WhiteMustangXxX]

petrasb1 They are not judged as much as women.. don’t even try to compare it

[@AaAa-zz8fi]

@@petrasb1 chaeryeong from itzy is the whole package: she can dance sing and rap and has a very funny and outgoing personality. yet she is EXTREMELY underappreciated by both jyp and the fans only because her looks dont fit their standard or whatever. with guys this doesnt happen as often

[@Fia-ps6ur]

petrasb1 Of course they are being judge But men often find an obese woman more “disgusting” than obese men And somehow woman think the same way too The thing is, Korea is a different place with America or any other countries Their standard is so hard, especially female artists, you cannot deny it by anyway

[@summera7144]

Yoona’s face really screams “r u fcking kidding me” when they called her too fat & too thin in the same time 😭

[@sabinamohan2415]

Right! Like omg they were trying to give this backhanded compliment as if she was supppsed to take it nicely. "Oh no no, we mean you're TOO SKINNY and want you to become fatter"

[@erin9110]

And Yoona is absolutely gorgeous 💓

[@brittneyreimers7968]

Find it disgusting and humiliating when they don't like you as a singer or a person but like you cuz of your body and how you look and they look like 👹💩

[@nicholasmutch1556]

yeah, that comment was also bogus, I read a caption that said , that they used the fans words of her being so overworked that she's so thin that she should eat something, and they have their korean word for it. That is just picking on people.

[@angelabby2379]

bruuh they shouldn't even include that...its just mistranslation

[@Aj-ez9tp]

I can’t believe that shindong said “I’m a boy and you’re a girl” bruh

[@pushka6772]

Ashurah Abrahams which minute?

[@MiuXiu]

La Lalisa it was at the beginning.

[@mariee__123]

Ikr, I was shocked. I really used to like super Junior but there are some members who have a problematic behavior. I remember there was this interview of goo hara where the hosts literally made her cry and there was super junior member kyuhyun there too as a host, he later apologize and all but I didn't liked his behavior there and now shindong, even tho he apologized too but that's really disgusting thing to say. Now, I really hope their fans won't attack me because I'm just saying what I personally feel about them.

[@kruton93]

Yeah that comment was so stupid... I'm wondering if he meant it out of his actual ideals, or if he meant it because he understands the current situation for male vs female idols. Like it's one thing to say it in an ignorant way, but it's different if he meant it like "Fans are cruel and the current reality is that females have a higher visual standard than males." It means Shindong is either VERY stupid, or VERY aware of reality.

[@Pandas_are_dumb]

Also that other time Chungha was in a reality show and one of Super Junior members was also there. And he said something super creepy about Chungha and one of the older females called him out 🤢

[@staph.aureus2771]

I feel really bad for late Sulli. She immediately saying that she planned to lose weight when heard that guy’s comment. It makes me remmeber how bad she was bullied by people on social media. May she rest in peace 😢😢😢

[@moyaa.a]

The “please give me some food” made me cry, are they pets to ask for food...they are humans they should eat, i’m so done with their agencies

[@juliee593]

People feed their pets better than companies feed their workers...

[@mariakiwi1428]

Time stamp pls

[@e.9425]

@@mariakiwi1428 8:34

[@ashcatchum]

[@Chachixo]

I hate when I see videos of girls getting treats and their managers snatch them away before they can have any :(

[@ainathirah9384]

"There are two types of people who will judge you, woman who are jealous of you and men who are not as good as you" - Zhao Xiaotang

[@kofwoodz]

WISE WORDS FROM A QUEEN

[@Adele5554]

So true. Ugly men love to put beautiful women down.

[@arieskyllelariosa9658]

Be a Zhao Xiaotang, Shuxin is in the right hands.

[@immabaddass]

OMFG XIAOTANG MY BABY! STAN THE9

[@chuueries5234]

PERIODT.

[@lauraelizabethbrown]

"He said we're ugly." *everyone laughs* No one should be laughing at that.

[@flyhigh9434]

erm actually if you watch the video, they are actually laughing because CL(the lady) imitate his boss voice(YG), so they found it is funny

[@Maba-lg3og]

UGLY is stand for you U Gotta Love Yourself so when people say you're UGLY take that as motivation not as insult

[@seemaroy7541]

They probably laughed because the guy who said this was ugly (no offense tho) himself...

[@pmanlicious7117]

Honestly my heart hurt watching this

[@lauraelizabethbrown]

@@flyhigh9434 I mean I get it, but to me it still isn't funny. It's disturbing.

[@exoisthereason.491]

4:43 the way Amber protected sulli. (:

[@risayu5274]

she should throw her shoes toward that guy

[@visualbeauty3427]

@@risayu5274 but people are always double standand & over sensitive sometimes & nowadays.

[@did_i_ask_btchDO_i_look_i_care]

My female crush :)

[@rmsdimples8533]

Fun fact: Yg calls CL ugly because Cl stood up and said she didnt want plastic surgery for her debut while YG was forcing her, she said no

[@kpopstan2202]

MLD389 So happy she stood up for herself ! And I also think he called them all ugly. He’s a pig.

[@BlackjackiesChannel]

i mean he also said 2ne1 is an ugly group... YG WILL FOREVER BE A SCAM AND IDIOT

[@rollydhar9971]

Queen

[@soukkk6773]

CL first when i saw her i said she is beautiful lmao he is blind

[@lalaa5600]

I thought yg was against plastic surgery?

[@pineapplefriend5987]

I'm surprised that the guy who criticized sulli had the audacity to say anything when he himself looks ugly asf. like don't be a hypocrite.

[@bruh-ok5ks]

bruh exactly

[@catleaxmas5416]

I was just gonna say the same thing.

[@talachiragwandi9122]

If I were her I’d be like before u say anything fix ur teeth.

[@reeceo9939]

Pineapple Friend like in the beginning of the video, Shindong’s quote ‘I’m a boy, and you’re a girl.’ :/

[@stefanssmellsvictory105]

Is it not possible that the TV show asked this person to say these things?

[@yen2153]

taeyeon defending seulgi and Wendy, we need more people like her 🥺

[@NyonyaRekomen]

나야 !! i think because she is also went through the same issue before. taeyeon such a sweetheart.

[@yen2153]

dodolipet woy yes! i love her sm ❤

[@zuheir546]

Wait when? Can u show the time plz?🥺

[@yen2153]

zuheir 5 9:08 ❤

[@michiko5945]

no we need to act like her!

[@rtk-ok1yp]

My standards this, my standards that...like stfu, I understand everyone has their own taste and standards so just try to find the one you'll like and don't insult those who don't match your stadards and don't make them uncomfortable, they don't have to change themselves for you.

[@LovelyKissess]

💯

[@tania8409]

"its my standard" and what exactly makes these men think that women will do anything to please THEM and THEIR desires?....

[@andinho2204]

Period

[@sagearviso1979]

Lol because sadly girls do makeup for other guys to look impressionable or to find a good partner

[@andinho2204]

@@sagearviso1979 Not all girls do it, most of them do it to look good for themselfs or to look good for everyone, not only for men.

[@sagearviso1979]

@@andinho2204 most girls I know who wear makeup do 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@oka5969]

@@sagearviso1979 most girls you've met isnt enough to generalize all of em

[@slayer-dj3dc]

I find CL rly attractive is it jsut me she’s rly beautiful in her own way her eyeliner compliments her face rly well

[@kimarisu972]

I am gay for her. I call her Chaerin oppa! 🥰🥰

[@altheaisok6026]

Yes she's so beautiful but in Koreans standard is the opposite, like tf? What's inside your eyes?

[@jajapichai]

@jonathan hell no this is not a place for 2ne1 slander. they are all beautiful and talented. i bet you don't have as much talent in your whole body as they do in they leg

[@annano7761]

@jonathan are you entering a new circus rn ma'am ❤❤?

[@slayer-dj3dc]

jonathan r u kidding she’s so beautiful she has high check bones that pop and her eye makeup compliments her eyes so well

[@user-fe8vr7xw3q]

I get so sad when I see them being called fat and they can't even defend themselves or people will come at them because of that too. You could see that Amber was angry and wanted to tell that man to shut the hell up but just couldn't, I'm still happy she said something. I really hope that everyone, not only Asians, learns that you don't need to be really thin to be pretty or happy, let's just be healthy and happy, everyone!!!

[@annaagoston2756]

I know right? And its so sad because i am naturally skinny and i was glad and happy about it until i started listening to kpop. When i saw those girls going on extreme diets i felt like i should do it too and now im underweight, im terrified of gaining even 0.1 kg and just want to lose as much as possible. Its not only bad for the idols' mentality but fans too, i cant be the only one who feels this way. We need more people like Hwasa and Amber in kpop and they need to get more attention because the shaming that goes on there is so damaging for everybody :/

[@tinaluvs]

@Anna Ágoston agreed, I am a very petite person. I am short 5ft.1 and very thin but then you have some of these idols who are much taller than I am weighing the same or even weigh less than me. That’s not healthy, I know some of them are naturally thin but why force them to lose weight? Edit: When you see these girls you admire them, especially if you’re young and you see them lose weight and dieting so you start to feel bad that you are also gaining weight. That’s also not good for your mental health. I hope these horrible standards would just go and everyone gets to live happy and healthy.

[@lucrivas1366]

Yeah, that really upset me. But in the case of amber, if you search the full video, she tells the guy that those are his standars but he don't have to be rude and tell others to fit on that. And I mean, I know is also rude, but look at that guy is so ugly, he can't say that in his position

[@plsnarayanan]

I had respect for shindong but after he said those words, *I 👏 LOST 👏 ALL 👏 THE 👏 RESPECT 👏 FOR 👏 SHINDONG*

[@marinacomasvidal4110]

Same, I am so disappointed...

[@jjongscorner7476]

@@marinacomasvidal4110 He had even insult fans for weight. U should see more about him and some other suju members. Most of them are amazing sirs and Im obsessed with their music, but some r really the worst people. Kyuhyun is one of my top favorite vocalists but I'm disguised of him and don't like his personality. He's selfish and disrespectful and sorry for saying

[@taeblends]

Yeah I'm the opposite. My respect for Shindong has slowly built up over the years because it seems like he has changed his attitude. Keep in mind that comment was literally from 2005, over 15 years ago. I don't know about you but I would want people to judge me on the person I am today, not the person I used to be.

[@thesevenkingswelove9554]

I feel so disgusted by what he said

[@danielalala5337]

@@taeblends he still was a whole grown ass adult, no excuses

[@kasaisuru8139]

It always shocks me at everyone's reaction to laugh at these scarring stories. These people dead ass find these girl's traumas funny and it infuriates me.

[@CanopusLux]

So true! I could never

[@roselamoure]

That show is horrible in general! I don’t understand why it is still not canceled yet

[@angelicaaboulhaf4887]

That's how korea was.. Very depressing

[@16yearsago94]

I want to beat them

[@sophiewebb4549]

If I was on those shows they'd probably kick me out because I'd be spitting fire 😂

[@wickedwaifu5616]

They’re trying to laugh it off so they don’t get in trouble, wow that hurts :(

[@shaden.8570]

the kpop industry is hell for girl idols

[@d.h.7314]

@@shaden.8570 the same for boys too I just hate their standards disgusting

[@m.o.4894]

Yes... I noticed the fake laughs...

[@SuchetanaChatterjee]

that's the exact fake laugh i do when someone says something hurtful in public but i have to shrug it off like it's something funny ugh

[@yuukileadenheart5960]

Laughing in sadness. I mean to pretend that they are alright🥺🥺

[@vaishnavijha6896]

YG should stop debuting girl idols when he wants to waste their talent and throw them away after 7 years.

[@riyamanoj7685]

YG CEO CHANGED..........SO NOW I THINK THEY WOULD HAVE MUCH BETTER CONDITION

[@nothing_too_seahere8804]

@@riyamanoj7685 the new ceo is just a puppet. It’s all just for public image.

[@laylarbkx8203]

@@riyamanoj7685 actually the old yg CEO is actually a nice person the time it was still 2ne1 and bigbang and other group until he made new group and gained more fans I think then he changed

[@joythinker739]

@@riyamanoj7685 new ceo literally was among the people who voted for 2ne1 disband

[@xandercorp6175]

You can just support those washed-up performers all by your lonesome if you think it's unfair.

[@ramaamali]

i loved how taeyeon defended wendy and seulgi and called out the manager we need more ppl like her like kindness is really important and some companies dont even lets there idols eat thats so cruel

[@pamelapam10]

I don't want to be THAT person, but can we talk about the male k-idols behaviors? Like, they really think they have any right to comment on someone else's body? The level of sexism is impressive 😑

[@xauloo]

RIGHT, in one video it was like "what member of f(x) is fat by your standards..... like EXUSE me???? Why are you having standards on women's bodies.

[@doremifasolasiyeon9005]

@@xauloo EXACTLY. if it's his standard then why should he force HIS standard on someone else's body?? that being said, seventeen is an exception. seungkwan once no one should ever expect something from others especially if it's grounded under their own standards. that being said, seventeen shouldn't be mentioned with the likes of those men you speak of. hoshi even reacted "what the" when he read a statement that says that women should have white porcelain skin and thin body.

[@fobpatdrkcgp]

It’s also always super junior LMAO- they’re always pulling shit like this I can’t believe the audacity

[@kimbradawn4975]

Shindong has since apologized several times and has been shown to support plus sized women. Those comments were from almost ten years ago. He's not the same person.

[@pujapatel2292]

Kimbra Dawn we understand but it still doesn’t change the fact that he said it.

[@sanicalouiselee2418]

That Shindong comment was disgusting. Deeply disgusting.

[@celestialmaiden4606]

He ended up dieting now too and is married with a child. Let's see how long he lasts with that.

[@mdkitchen1932]

@@celestialmaiden4606 shindong married?? I think u confused him with someone else

[@shantaliguiron363]

Shindong isn't married he just loses weight

[@yeet5302]

once he feels bad, I feel like he'll be going, "Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry" (SJ pun)

[@jy5819]

Celestial Maiden lmao he isn’t married and doesn’t have child. Don’t know where you even got that information

[@cleo5364]

so to koreans: Hwasa who is naturally curvy needs to lose weight because she looks too "thick" compared to other idols BUT Lisa who is naturally skinny needs to gain weight because "she doesn't even look like a woman and has no assets" Wendy was called fat every single day in 2015 and when she lost the weight she "looked like a skeleton" Umji has been bullied by knetz so much that she performed with her face covered by her hair Tzuyu has been harassed because of her body since she was like 16 Sooyoung is naturally skinny and she's called a stick and not a "real" woman even to this day Naeun is somehow both fat and skinny at the same time CL can't even breathe without getting called ugly and fat the list goes on and thats sad

[@itznia_ok8069]

Like knetz don't know what they want

[@estelaangeles2346]

@@itznia_ok8069 lisa said she jad to lose weight

[@flowr6508]

Wasn’t Tzuyu harassed for wearing revealing clothing when she was 16?

[@JN-wo5ob]

Estela Angeles uhm when did she said that? she even says that she doesn’t diet because she dances everyday

[@ximenacerezo1590]

Sunmi gets criticized too for being too skinny, like female idols can never win

[@stanshinee378]

And then ppl blame Bom for her surgery but she was literally called ugly

[@viviblues]

the sad thing is, in korea no matter how tall the girl is, if she's over 50kg they consider her "chubby"

[@maridatweeb3509]

@i hate math Ikr? Like they think that people don't have bones?

[@byeol_mmd]

@i hate math it seems they don't. Tzuyu is an example of this. She's 172cm tall but still weighs lile 50kg. My sister is 155cm tall and she weighs that and people call her skinny. Just imagine the standard difference.

[@franciscarojas7295]

I hate that, ofcourse hight is important in considerating the "healthy weight", and even that weight is not healthy enough sometimes.

[@Ishita-maurya1804]

Thats just sad and should be like that:(

[@luru1544]

This makes me upset as hell. Im muscular/skinny but the muscles weight much more than fat so my weight is always higher. Before I started training my weight was 48kg but now it's close to 60kg. People seem to think its better to be dying in a skinny body than being healthy weight living a active lifestyle.

[@john_avernia]

When that person criticize Sulli, that kinda hurt me. I'm not even her fan, but after she died, video like this made feel disgusted with Korean beauty standard and how they treat female like an object.

[@alzaen2240]

Why did she died?

[@talyorgreen9342]

@@alzaen2240 Cyberbullying

[@vivifree234]

• alzaen22 She did suicide

[@raquelgaytan2648]

ikr? and the way amber tried to confort her . It broke me.

[@alzaen2240]

@@vivifree234 this is so frikin sad...

[@lovebot9037]

momo spoke in a vlive that she was forced to lose weight in a week and she only ate ice and she was afraid of falling asleep bc she was scared she’d die in her sleep.. i always think about that, my heart breaks knowing how hard it is for them i love them so much :( no one helps them

[@hessaa1712]

Ice??! Only?? How can she even practice

[@aelishajazzgarcia]

@@yestyongday I heard that thats a disorder if you do that, im not quite sure what its called but its not healthy at all. I feel bad for the girls

[@sukidakara4326]

@@aelishajazzgarcia dude it's called bulimia lol

[@aelishajazzgarcia]

@@sukidakara4326 ye i didnt know what it was called, chill

[@yestyongday]

@@aelishajazzgarcia yeah, I heard it from baekhyun, when people keep calling him fat, he went into a "diet" and that's what he did to lose weight. It's very sad

[@ChicaBuenosAires]

I love Taeyeon at the end defending Wendy with their manager and even cheering them up about their weight.

[@KHGSMel]

Taeyeon sticking up for Seulgi and Wendy, we love a queen!!!

[@KHGSMel]

And HyunA speaking out for Hyomin 😭

[@felmargego2534]

Taeyeon being a good sunbae

[@wizonechu8463]

CL needs to take over YG Taeyeon needs to take over SM Jihyo needs to take over JYP all these idols have been called ugly and fat compared to there band mates. they know the pressure and i think this would be great if they took over

[@okaythen4614]

Jaylah 13 I think JYP is the only partially decent one. In Sixteen, when the others judges were saying that Jihyo was too fat for modeling, JYP still stuck up for her and said that she should place first

[@mongjes]

@@okaythen4614 yeah but he still isn't that great either. Just wach this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5ymaYePpqpolbM If you already know about this then sorry for bothering but maybe it's interesting for others

[@twiceisoncemorefancy1499]

4:45.. That sulli part.. Make me cry... *She's no longer in this world...* *R.I.P*

[@christianyuscrush5273]

Did you know what the name of that show?

[@asil-1004]

@@christianyuscrush5273 Hello Counselor

[@muriel7206]

I know, and she was skinny anyways and tall too, that guy was just awful, especially if you saw the rest of that episode

[@catija]

That guy with the crooked teeth made me so mad ughhh. I hope he regrets being so mean.

[@slowhand_dnp2104]

I wanna punch that guy.I mean, who he think he is?

[@ydalangin]

My blood boiled when that guy told Sulli she needs to lose fat in her arms and calves!! UGGHHH

[@chloereed454]

Yonna Dalangin pissed me off how she went straight to saying she was going to loose weight...ugh no don’t fucking listen to men with opinions like that especially when they’re the ones who should be insecure with their looks

[@shaorz]

And she is so skinny already! I really feel bad for her. May she rest in peace

[@chloereed454]

@Sasha you can loose muscle?😂as someone who lost most of my body weight a few years ago (including any muscle I had) the only thing that you can’t lose without surgery is the skin. Even then you’d have to have a lot of it to realise.

[@chloereed454]

@Sasha no you did that. Nobody mentioned the ones she was born with. She clearly has a little bit of muscle purely from daily tasks I imagine but I don’t think that’s a bad thing. She wasn’t born with them.

[@chloereed454]

Do you deleted like six of your comments to then comment the same thing underneath🤔

[@aieyemie]

Notice how all these men don’t hold a candle to the beautiful, stunning, gorgeous women in this video

[@Explodingthingy]

“Starting tomorrow weigh them everyday, especially Seolhyun.” That was absolutely disgusting, the girl said she only weighed 50kg!! The fact that it was another woman who said this to her and treated her like she’s property made it so much worse. She’s one of my favorite idols and models, and it hurts me to see her treated so badly by both management and Knetz.

[@myplateisempty.4292]

Honestly it might not even be the managers fault....the company might be forcing their staff to keep a strict eye on the girls. We can't really say but yes she was very rude to the poor girls and the standard to be thin but still shapely is too stupid. If you want girls and boys to look a particular way then please build a robot factory.... At least they won't try to kill themselves due to the immense pressure of being a certain way. Really makes me question humanity. It's not purely the companies fault as they would probably do anything to make a quick buck, it's also the society shaming these idols and trying to make them fit into so many contradicting standards and expectations.

[@altheaisok6026]

I felt offended, even me I'm 55kg when I'm just 14 yrs old

[@beatriza.7447]

and another disgusting thing that Seolhyun and others AOA members had to pass was measure their weight EVERY DAY. doing this can absolutely not be good to your mental and physical health. i'm glad that now Chanmi, Seolhyun and Jimin are always posting photos where they're eating and being happy!!

[@youredoneyouredone3644]

I felt sad cos I'm 40kg and 13

[@Minhee_is_Minhee]

Meanwhile she's 1.67 and should weigh at the very least 52 to be healthy weight

[@ChloeTrankille]

Korea just isnt logical. They have an ideal weight which is 48 kilos. And being over 50 is the biggest shame. I know the middle height for women is 1.60/1.62cm in Korea but many idols are taller than that. How can you expect a 1.60cm tall and a 1.72cm tall girl to weight the same?

[@OosarahrocksoO]

Ikr! The other day I saw Joy's profile and it says that she's 1.68 and her weight is 49 kg, that is just not healthy. I know that some agencies modify their idols' profiles making it more "appealing" but what kind of fucked up message are they sending to young fans?

[@imstressedbuturnotsurprise3561]

@@OosarahrocksoO pretty sure she's more than that because the profile's tend to exaggerate their weights to be lower but she's still slim and thankfully has a healthy relationship with food and exercise

[@spy6205]

I ran out of ideas for my username yeah, they’re definitely exaggerated and the profile weight/height is usually taken right before debut. Most groups, especially girl groups, go on really extreme diets together before debut (maybe the most extreme of their entire career since they’re trying to be as thin as possible). Most idols I’ve seen who are asked about their profiles usually laugh and are like “yeah, definitely more than that now.” I’ve also seen a girl who’s clearly like 5’3” be listed at 5’5” and another girl who looks at least 5’6” listed as 5’4”. Really hilarious when you then see those idols next to each other later and go uhhhh something isn’t right here lol

[@annsophieberg3415]

@@OosarahrocksoO that's one of the worst and most overlooked part, in my opinion. I am not belittle-ing how awful these women are getting treated, but i think it must be so hard, especially for young female audiences, to be presented with these types of bodies all the time. Teenagers especially are already so insecure and fragile, thinking about it really scares me

[@szz6098]

Tzuyu is 172cm and weighs 48kg And thats the same weight as dahyun and chaeyoung who are 158-159cm

[@tiny.violet]

girls: We were starving and didn't have enough energy to do anything tv show hosts: HAHAHAHAHAHA LMAO ROFL

[@Marley-18.]

That got me so angry

[@soullessbody7924]

But if the hosts take it seriously then the girls would be out of the agency next day if they are not popular or otherwise they will get punishment for saying that. So the hosts have to do something to make it look like a joke so they laugh to it as if it is a joke.

[@wowjuswow]

9:05 that one tall dude from knowing bros was saying that they should eat though so i guess some care

[@wilzenryanbolak2521]

@@wowjuswow Janghoon always give advices to idols. Love when he does that, love how they don't edit it out as well.

[@beatm6948]

I wish they wouldn't, but given the nature of shows like that, it can't get too serious. Now, I think that's a problem in of itself, but that's how things are.

[@pbj4142]

Dude, Yoonas flabbergastion when the Chinese man said the fans called her fatty is what did it for me. You could tell she was absolutely shocked. Poor thing.

[@najmamohamed5170]

When the chinese guy was calling yoona fat and skinny at the same time. She looked just as bewildered as I felt. Like what the hell bro

[@kerol5905]

Plus she's skinny because she suffered malnutrition as a child. That comment must have felt too close to home.

[@charcolatier]

Apparently he says that the netizens called her pangpang (which means fatfat) as a wish for her to gain weight

[@bichen4151]

He didn't call her fat. He was explaining that fans call her that because they wish she'd GAIN some weight. You guys need to read things properly and not making things up.

[@bichen4151]

@agahse The thing is that people always make something up and cause more drama. Overall it's not that big difference but in a slightly different scenario, it could be.... If you address a certain thing you should interpret it correctly. I agree with the last part. Both versions are bad and that man should do a bit of self-reflection.

[@snowydadog2788]

Your reading comprehension is worse

[@patinadador]

That clip of f(x) absolutely shatters my heart. They all look so pissed off, and even with that, Sulli tries to smile. And when the guy tries to justify himself, ugh. "It's my standard" boy no one gives a damn about your standards. Amber was about to throw some hands and honestly if I were there I probably would've

[@felmargego2534]

Same. I would've straight up told him, "but we don't follow your standards, so your standards don't matter." 😂

[@layloo5244]

lana coelho even when Amber said to super juniors Kangin ‘what about u tho’ when he told those girls they should lose weight bc they are female idols. Loved that part lmaooo

[@d3n_2]

Ikr his standard is just skeletons w/ make up and long hair like bro straighten ur teeth before u judge-

[@mischiefmaker3140]

If this one thing I took from this video Korean men have the audacity. Ugh his so ugly his teeth is weapons but worried bout the girls

[@AGPostarStudios]

He wants idols to follow his standards but to my standards he has a ugly hair cut and desperately needs braces but no one would say anything to him? No one gives a crap about ur standards, if someone doesn’t meet ur standards fine someone else who does don’t put down that person.

[@francinev3971]

i love how when that guy criticized Sulli, Krystal was quick to say "Gain more weight" to him, implying that he's too skinny to even make such criticism and Amber was quick to defend, saying "that's just your opinion" which denies the guy's claim that everyone thinks the girls are fat.

[@ryotengoku99]

I love how they protect each other and the fact that Amber was 🤏 this close to sending that rat into outer space. Good job to the girls, that guy should find a mirror and look carefully into it.

[@sould3476]

Are they a part of a grp ?

[@dirtydan2575]

@@sould3476 yes, their group is called f(x)

[@samscibelli9977]

I literally cried at that scene because I remembered Sulli committed suicide

[@vickypearl]

I mean he ain’t nice looking , god his teeth is so weird . I would have insulted him if I was them . Prolly wouldn’t last long in the industry

[@k8tisawesome]

Amber is such an amazing person, willing to stand up to these toxic norms and defend her group who were being subject to that. These "standards" need to change.

[@purushothaman8538]

"isnt 50 kg too much??" EXCUSE ME ?? WTF THATS THE NORMAL AND HEALTHY WEIGHT

[@juliee593]

Depending on your height that can even be underweight :(

[@DianaGonzalezGzzP]

It's scary how they think that, according to their standards I would be super fat when I'm completely normal

[@a_bear]

Depends on your height. to me 50 would be super undeweight!

[@clownery9837]

@@a_bear im 155cm tall and i weight 50kg and i hear a lot of ppl saying its normal and im happy since its kinda harder for me to gain weight 🎆

[@khushee5103]

@@clownery9837 am 157 and 61 kgs and still people say it's normal in my country

[@jjurinsgf]

Guys, remember that it's not just the company's fault, it's also the "fans" fault. They're the first one to attack and criticize someone's weight because of korean crazy standards. It's a matter of culture, it ain't about kpop.

[@blobbu6016]

I totally understand what you talking about, i hv seen some kpop stan be like "omg this girl is ugly in this group", "i bet im prettier" like bish- yall don't look at their talent? Just looks? I really am so sick of people nit picking people appearance. I honestly feel bad for these celebrities having to keep up on people standard on their looks, they hv to change their appearance to please others...

[@fatherlouiswilliamssugaada1095]

The thing is... they aren't fans...

[@fairy5668]

@@fatherlouiswilliamssugaada1095 They are though. Die-hard fans are normally the first to notice when someone's chubby

[@fatherlouiswilliamssugaada1095]

@@fairy5668 no they aren't supporting them by calling them fat an ugly which means they aren't fans...

[@AnaissN]

@@blobbu6016 Yes, some kpop stans (maybe too young or too easily influenced by others) start to believe korean standards too, it's crazy. I couldn't believe the group I liked was considered "ugly" by some, in any other country the girls were beautiful... I didn't believe it until I saw the comments. English comments... Some kpop stans are cr4zy. Liking kpop shouldn't mean you start believing korean toxic beauty standards!!

[@3erusa]

Dude this is so messed up and I hate that the fact that most of these girls says "I'm sorry" when it's not their fault at all. Something needs to change.

[@yasminchan7425]

They don't even have anything to apoligize over, if anyone should say sorry it's all those disgusting trash cans who's telling them how to look

[@3erusa]

@@yasminchan7425 ikrr

[@3erusa]

@Xevalain Zera yeah 😣

[@thesashakuran]

Well us overseas fans have an option of starting a kpop business in US and just persuasively taking their singers over to our good side 👍

[@lucyk.5163]

Well, this is Asian culture for y'all. I live in Japan and here people are obsessed with weight and looks too, I know in other countries such as China, Vietnam and Thailand things are like this too, but Korea takes it to a whole new level. They are truly, truly obsessed with how they look and how much they weight and the bullying about it is fierce. I refuse to wear makeup but in Japan and Korea not using makeup is considered basically a crime against humanity. I'm surprised 2ne1 rehearsed without makeup because yeah, it's not the norm. That's why she was bullied by the jerk. And I used to be bullied too in Japan but I've grown a thicker skin. I did reach rock bottom though thanks to the bullying I went through. I still have leftoverPTSD from it and it's been 10yrs already. Been a long journey to heal myself and learn to not care and not depend on people's opinions about myself.

[@mivima4933]

Sulli's death is enough proof of how bad the industry is doing for their artists and the man that insulted her just contributed to the tragedy. I wish to know his reaction when it hit the news. There is blood in your hands sir.

[@AnaissN]

That type of person probably doesn't care 🤢🤢🤢

[@kekw5153]

@@AnaissN tbh ur right. If he's careless enough to say it infront of his face then he's careless to even think about her death

[@andrevarian3744]

im a guy but even i cant fathom how can they did that. esp in these vid the guy who said sully needed to lose some weight? SIR DO YOU HAVE A MIRROR?? do something about your fcked up teeth , my god

[@likeaphoenix6]

Reason for her death?

[@yoshida7547]

@@likeaphoenix6 she killed herself

[@lunetteanne5217]

This is actually disgusting. Considering the men's attitude about this makes it more disturbing

[@me9981]

True. But what makes me even more sad AND ANGRY is that some of their trainers and managers are women and they are tellling them they are fat.

[@endie4186]

wonu sloth because as a women u should understand the struggle personally & not want to make others feel that way also

[@lunamoon6390]

Thelondonbadger yes men gets these comments but women get them more. women have much higher standards of beauty than and have a higher emphasis on their visuals.

[@t.abellard6280]

This whole video really annoyed me, Taeyeon looks damn anorexiac these days......

[@yesipan]

The dude commenting on F(x)'s weight has clearly never looked into a mirror before.

[@christianyuscrush5273]

Did you know the name of that show?

[@Iamme0101]

@@christianyuscrush5273 hello counselor

[@jasminetartila]

I'm repulsed by him

[@joycepanganiban6060]

Amber is so angry

[@Tippy2forU]

Exactly. I know he has his nerve.

[@elephantshrew6304]

I’m a 5’7” woman, and 117 lbs and under is underweight. In regard to the 2018 knowing brothers clip:… That girl was already underweight at 116 lbs. Her boss was telling her to get to 112 or lose her job and was essentially saying, get sicker and lose your health or you’re fired. Evil, evil, sick in the head.

[@miniushi1048]

“You shouldn’t eat shaved ice on a diet.” Sir, that is literally just frozen water with sugar. They’ll be needing it, trust me.

[@yellowblobby]

well if it's litteraly just water and sugar then you indeed shouldn't eat it on a diet. When it's sugar and nothing else it's the worst you can do.

[@Luzgoishzre]

@@yellowblobby who said that lol you have to eat a snack in your diet.....you have to balance your meals

[@yellowblobby]

@@Luzgoishzre "Balance your meals"? Shaved ice brings only extremely few nutrients (no wonder with the ingredients) for a lot of added sugar wich is the main part of it. Why would you be dieting for a week and destroy that progress by suddenly pouring more added sugar into your body than you could find on an entire diet plan for "balancing purposes". And no you never "have to eat snacks". They are just there to complete a small meal or to bring energy before a physical activity. And if it's litteraly only added sugar and water, you don't complete anything, at all. The only thing you're "balancing" out is the fact you were loosing weight. I can't even grasp the fact people are telling me eating shaved ice on a diet is good. That's just mind blowing, what are you even dieting for.

[@Luzgoishzre]

@@yellowblobby nothing wrong with that but ok you do you lmao

[@yellowblobby]

@@Luzgoishzre sorry but that's just a way to get away with no arguments. "You do you lmao", seriously? As if it was a matter of opinions and not litteral facts. If you don't have an argument, just don't reply (fallacious) stuff like this. You had no other reason to reply this than trying to fix your ego or to artificially convince yourself that you didn't get proven wrong. You know that you were wrong, but instead of using that knowledge responsibly, you prefer to keep saying wrong things just for the sake of looking better online. Let me tell you that these type of "recovery formulas" are spotted from miles away and are way uglier than someone who ends up agreeing and being open-minded.

[@katyarmyphantomhive1745]

This kind of thing makes me so mad. "Isn't 50kg too much?" "... Yes. Sorry..." And that said by ANOTHER WOMAN. I'M SO MAD. I cried. That scene was too much to handle. I want to change that damn society that puts the most ephemeral thing, bodyweight and looks, in front of mental health and happiness. But what can I do more than report the people who bodyshame those poor girls? If you know, please tell me.

[@serchmaabaatarchuluun5761]

yeah. Poor Seolhyun looked like she was about to cry. And She is pretty tall. That made me wanna know the other woman's weight. How much do weight? 20kg ???

[@yesiam1461]

Living as asian is hard..I got judge everyday but now is quarantine and its pretty chill

[@yesiam1461]

Even weight 50kg above will considered as fat ( sorry bad English)

[@glitterdragon9197]

Makes me very afraid honestly. It’s not healthy and I’m sure all these girl idols starving themselves already feel pains in their organs and if they’re not careful it can lead to permanent damage sort of how it happened to Audrey Hepburn

[@katyarmyphantomhive1745]

@@yesiam1461 don't worry about your english, it's pretty good! And please, take care of your body. You shouldn't care about your weight, but about your health. Don't listen to judgemental people that have nothing better to do in their lives. I know it's difficult, but still, don't ruin your body only to fit in society 💜

[@yeri-8278]

That guy who said that Suzy „needed to loose weight“ doesn’t realize that these words can turn into a eating disorder.

[@샤우키나]

Who's that guy?

[@tanukiian]

@@샤우키나 that's a fan ig

[@gowonscrunchyscalp]

@@샤우키나 Super Junior's Leeteuk

[@jajapichai]

yeah, same thing happened with poor IU

[@margauzroth1160]

confidence and kindness is what makes a girl or any person beautiful remember that

[@gzbxcl6860]

CL is literally the prettiest baby in the world debuting at 18 and having to lead a group of 4 with 2 older ones at such a young age, having to keep her feelings in check because she knows she's the leader, she's responsible. She not only face these critisms from the public but her own (ex) boss too...i'm glad that she's strong and she knows she's gorgeous

[@mikrokosmos9290]

YES God I swear imma throw hands at everyone who shames CL

[@katarinagrujic8067]

TELL IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK

[@sumsumk]

CL is one of the prettiest people I ever. She’s stunning. People are ridiculous.

[@zeera7080]

In the words of CL herself "Mess with me, you gon see the color Red" no one shames THE QUEEN

[@totallytiffany6513]

This made me so angry that I started crying. No one, especially no MALE has the right to tell a woman what to do with her body. These women absolutely do not have to loose weight. They are all beautiful and most of them are already skinny. And to the ones that are even the slightest curvy or the slightest bit thick, they don't need to loose either. And people wonder why idols become depressed so easily, this body shaming could be a huge factor in it.

[@jenniekim1416]

Totally Tiffany PERIODT.

[@danielpark6068]

So ofcourse you would agree that no FEMALE can tell what a male should do with his body also? Correct?

[@SallyOnceArmy]

@@danielpark6068 uhh, yes? Why are your type so sensitive? You won't see a woman (especially in kpop) fat shaming a men the same way you see a male do it, nobody can tell what somebody needs to look like but especially the other genre

[@krisxu3581]

@@danielpark6068 It doesn't happen a lot with male like women

[@Tanax13]

@@SallyOnceArmy Maybe not, but apparently women fat shaming other women are quite common too. I hope that is also not OK according to you. I think what Daniel wanted to point out was that the nod towards "especially no MALE" (very condescending and aggressive) was completely unnecessary as it shouldn't be allowed by ANYONE to fat shame another person. Like why are we trying to pick sides here? Humanism is the way forward. Love all and treat everyone with respect, regardless of gender (or all other things people loves to categorize people with).

[@elementalstar1036]

“I’m a boy and you’re a girl” I’d reply with “I’m a human and you’re a human”

[@smash3439]

"and we bleed the same."

[@catpaws1913]

@@smash3439 "want some proof?"

[@abisundaram1247]

I'd be like.."I'm a human and you're a trash" 😑

[@sunaleexo]

Shindong deserves a slap real big

[@ДаняТаргарян]

more like "im the woman and you're a pig"

[@kimchikim8459]

the last part of the video, those last words are so warm

[@timingmile7030]

This is why Free the Corset movements in Korea are so important. Society is especially strict at keeping Korean women in line with one extremely harsh standard of beauty. When I read stories of 14 years old girls asking their parents for double eye lid surgery, dieting pills for kids and plastic surgery ads showing how much better your chances are at getting married after you go under the knife; you know their society has a big problem.

[@abbywhitlock8351]

i heard they ask for height and weight on job applications

[@thereisnosuchthingasabiasi80]

@@abbywhitlock8351 This why Korea ia known as Hell Joseon by the younger generation

[@omaewamoushindeiru5937]

You mean plastic beauties?

[@PrincessPunkPants]

@@abbywhitlock8351 They have to send a headshot with resumes/applications too. Like imagine applying to a Walmart or something, but you gotta send in a selfie so they can make sure ur not ugly 😭😭

[@zigzag-ug1gl]

I have a huge respect and love for hyuna, taeyeon and amber for defending their fellow idols

[@purpleglitz]

which one is hyuna

[@yourkkum1424]

@@purpleglitz she started talking at 7:52

[@purpleglitz]

your kkum thank you

[@gabbyhoran98]

People saying these are “beauty standards / that’s how it is” are part of the problem.

[@sitinurnazurahmohdnazrul558]

You like fromis9 ?

[@AyaHizunashiArts]

My question is.... While I get the love some fans have for their fav members/groups..... How can we still support such an industry at this point anymore?.... It is 2022 and we still talk about these issues...

[@cutebutevil7387]

Because it's not the companies that their lose their livelihoods and their dreams if we stop supporting the groups.

[@valtaep1ece796]

These clips are kinda old the industry has changed since then.

[@rachelectroDC-84]

"It's my standard" he said, with his teeth pointing in three different directions! To a woman who committed suicide, due to comments like that! Hope you sleep well at night, my dude. >:(

[@yxiishh1870]

Bruh this comment is underrated

[@cynthia8687]

May i be pardoned but i lost it and almost burst into laughter when you mentioned his teeth. 😅😂😂

[@alia_babo]

Ikr like NOBODY cares to fulfill his standards anyway because nobody would want to be with a person like him. Like, what kind of standard is that? Her arms are "too fat" so I won't date her/I don't find her pretty? Shitty standard shows a shitty person.

[@Error-qt4lu]

What's worse is she is no longer with us, I hope that guy feels guilty asf

[@chen-mr7ei]

*Three different directions* lol🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@marwakaddari5287]

It’s heart breaking to see how pressured they are into losing weight and stuff like that

[@estelaangeles2346]

I blame the company

[@lauragg9121]

it is, and your user name is SO true

[@suly5742]

*"I'm a boy and you're a girl"* This irritated me so much I felt like punching the screen *edit- yes i am aware that it was a long time ago and that shindong is a changed person now*

[@soukkk6773]

atinyyy yy did shindong said that?

[@luigiluigi4366]

He apologized 10 years ago and admitted what he was dumb

[@nova707ha]

@@soukkk6773 yes in a show ten years ago when they asked him what will you do if your girlfriend wanted to lose weight and that was his answer, and he apologized later twice when people said they understand him , he said again " thank you for understanding but a wrong doing is a wrong doing and I apologize...."

[@lestatschlongh8065]

Me too, i was irritated, but sadly what he said is actually a fact in korean idol beauty standards ;(

nova alyousef THANK YOU again for showing people the truth and not letting them throwing false allegations and inhumane attitude :(

[@thaunn33]

Hyuna protecting hyomin warms my heart so much.Knowing how precious their relationship is.Thanks Hyuna for being with hyomin thick or thin 🤎

[@benjaminsotocornejo3653]

I know that this video is mainly about losing weight. However, even when gaining weight netizens go to extremes. I remember that the visual from BESTie was told many times to gain weight because she was too skinny and it was to the point that she gave up and started doing weight lifting. She did the healthy way, yes, but still she was harassed to do something that she didn’t want to as a part of her job.

[@alexisaspy2429]

Benjamín Soto Cornejo knetz are also harsh towards sunmi. Sunmi has admitted multiple times how hard it is for her to gain weight and that she is actively trying to

[@estelaangeles2346]

@@alexisaspy2429 i remember suga in 2018 said he had lose weight

[@igot7-lu]

They said that in the video too for yoona How they called her fatty cause shes too skinny and want her to eat more. I'm sure theres newer cases too of lisa or rose from bp but these clips are older. Just in more cases, more idols have a harder time losing weight

[@TanyaVerma]

Same thing happened with sunmi, hani and continues with rose and Lisa it puts me off

[@layloo5244]

alex is a spy and when she finally gained weight she was then criticised for putting on too much. And not looking pretty anymore. I mean she was trending on naver for a boob job when she explained it came from weight gain they attacked her again and said shes lying and she got plastic surgery. Bruh lots of times when women gain weight it goes to their breasts and thighs etc. Sunmi on the other hand was very happy after weighing at more than 50kg she been working hard to gain weight.

[@mel-dm7ri]

*girls talking about serious stuff* people: *laugh* jfc im so mad

[@turtlie7309]

It’s interesting how when there were only men in the room they would all laugh, but if there were women in the room they would look appalled that anyone would ever say something so rude to a girl-

[@mehvishyasmin7235]

me too they clearly don't understand mental health and eating disorders

[@chewinggum2832]

I think it's because that kind of staff is not always said in reality shows, so in order not to make a bad atmosphere, they just laugh, so it could seem that they just make fun of that person and not in a bad way. As you can see in the video where Cl tells that the CEO would call them ugly, Sandara also laughed because if not it could be understood as if they complain about something.

[@hillarysudeikis2264]

The name of Lord Jesus Christ is the name of our God and our Creator, please don’t use God’s name in vain and please respect your Creator, He doesn’t deserve to be mentioned alongside swear words. Repent and turn from your sins He is coming back to judge the world.

[@b1yuzx94]

Hillary Sudeikis mmk.

[@Joyjoelyan78]

3:35 I love how amber ask him back, like what he said is really pissed me off

[@roseaholic4365]

I see it too, an Idol posts their insane diet after getting tons of hate for their body by netizen then the netizen comment about how unhealthy they are and how they are killing their fans like stfu and take some responsibility!

[@butterflysoobin9858]

ikr

[@arigungame2550]

Yoonas face looked so uncomfortable 2:46 when they were calling her 'fatty' If you have to explain a joke to someone, it's usually not funny. Like thin shaming her right after too, Yoona has taken so much crap and hates it when people mention how skinny she is, like the girl gets it now move on.

[@Suh6727]

Though I don't excuse their comments towards Yoona, I've seen at least three different occasions of Yoona talking about Tiffany's weight, even going as far as calling her a pig. People can call it a joke or say they're close so it's okay but to those same people, I doubt they are considering how all of that made Tiffany feel.

[@marissa2075]

@@Suh6727 whoa really?

[@panda-panda757]

@@marissa2075 Yup. Sooyoung's called her it too (which I find ironic and hypocritical because the two of them are famous for how much they eat). And iirc, Tiffany's expressed discomfort and annoyance at being called this. In addition, it's mainly because Tiffany has an apple shaped body, so her middle looks fuller than the rest of her body, even though she's nowhere near overweight.

[@user-hm9uq8gk5x]

It's sad because she was one of the most severely underweight. This must have been crushing to hear and I honestly don't know where people think they have a place to say that to someone

[@Suh6727]

@@panda-panda757 Tiffany's midsection is not necessarily her body shape but rather due to her having scoliosis (curve in her spine) If you look up those also suffering from it, you'll notice they too tend to have one side of their abdomen curved (like an hour glass) and other side straight.

[@leticiamaria5562]

it is so creepy that everyone laughed when Chaelin said that YG called them ugly p.s: its because they know they're beautiful

[@goldenfriedrice217]

sadly they are used to it, YG calls his artists ugly a lot

[@ameliavega8197]

And for gd, yg called him the root of evil in compeny

[@mischiefmaker3140]

Funny YG calling anyone ugly Looking like that lol Korean men are to much they already have small D!cks but want to act this way

[@babycow5894]

Ikr, he should look at the mirror first before calling anyone ugly.

[@lamakhaled2611]

I think they laughed because she said it while mimicking his voice

[@keripark7514]

Why am I crying? Why is this relatable? Why do we live in such a world! I don’t understand.

[@SThomas-rp3zm]

This is so important. Thanks for speaking about this topic, it was more than necessary. Stop blaming girl idols, blame society.