An honest reaction to the Doctor Who finale

[@jarnopp]

How do you feel about The Legend Of Ruby Sunday and Empire Of Death? Tell all here! 🚀 Sick of getting trolled for being a happy Doctor Who fan? Hating the online hate? Escape to The Time Lord's Retreat, my safe space to hang out, geek out and make new like-minded friends: www.skool.com/doctorwho 💌 Join this channel's free Doctor Who mailing list to get tipped off when my latest videos go live and access exclusive content: mailchi.mp/jasonarnopp.com/hvncvka8qa 💰 Build and test-drive your own online business for free on the amazing Skool platform, with a 14-day trial: bit.ly/skoolrefer

[@kmaggs7804]

Tried to keep an open mind and failed miserably. Love the idea of an open community ❤

[@jarnopp]

Hey there! I guess you didn't have such a good time with it? Sorry to hear that? But I'm glad you like the community idea - thank you! What would you MOST love to see in it?

[@PaulGibbons13]

Hi Jason great video and a great idea for a new community dr who online site.

[@redfieldblair]

"Does that really make sense? Probably not. I don't care"... our opinions shan't align :) If nothing makes sense then it becomes a series of random events, like watching Buckaroo Banzai - and to be honest like an awful lot of RTD Who. I would have loved the idea of the community a decade ago, I had to just shut out fandom because it was destroying my fun. I loved it 2010-2017 (having been a bit iffy on it 2005-9) and there was so much online negativity. It's a good idea, for someone else. I couldn't join as I'm now the kind of person I had to shut out. But honestly, it was a terrible script. I never really love an idea of something - you want something unique and memorable ask a five year old because they'll not think it through. I will think it through, subconsciously - can't turn it off. I don't need a lot to suspend disbelief, and if I can think of an unspoken work around I'll be happy - but basic logical issues like in Dot and Bubble and the finale make it impossible to enjoy.

[@jarnopp]

@@redfieldblair Hehe, indeed, our opinions are not aligned. As I think I said in the video, some people are happy to put such things aside and enjoy the ride, while others aren't. 😊😊👊

[@xMvP_RAMPAGEX]

The reveal of Ruby’s mom was very underwhelming considering the build up to it. However, the scene when she meets her and the following ‘goodbye for now’ with the Doctor were some of the best moments of the series, so makes me slightly more forgiving for it.

[@jarnopp]

Yes, that was lovely and nicely underplayed. 😊👊

[@jonathangmallender]

One question that's not been asked or Answered is - during the Giggle - the 15th Doctor created a 2nd Tardis from the original - does this mean there are two Sutekhs now? Or did he jump from one to the other?? Does this mean DAvid Tennant's Tardis has it's own Sutekh still attached to it???

[@jarnopp]

That is indeed a fine Q, Jonathan! :)

[@Paul-gh6ng]

Even though it makes me feel even older, Jason but Pyramids of Mars was 49 not 39 years ago. I feel that in my opinion that it may have done with the humanoid Sutekh, even if it was a stand in responding to Gabriel Woolfs pre-recorded lines. It will be interesting to see how Ruby fits into the Series 2/15/41 narrative

[@Mark-nh2hs]

Or even gone down The Mummy film route seeing Sutekh mask made of sand and smoke always shifting so you don't see it fully as a giant dust and sand storm. Also seeing giant dust arms and hands touching everything turning it to dust. Nope we got Scrappy Doo 😂

[@jarnopp]

Hehe, thanks Paul - now I feel as old as Sutekh himself 😆😆👊

[@TheYoungDoctor]

I was born in November 1975 the month it finished.

[@shawnstevens9819]

Hi Jason - I'm probably similar age as you but on the other side of the pond in Boston (though I lived in London for two years). I grew up primarily with Tom Baker in the 70s/80s on our public television stations and then later caught up with the other Doctors. Just discovered your channel - looks terrific. Your idea for a new forum sounds great. Like everyone, I have my own preferences and opinions (not heavy handed) but generally find something to like in each of the eras. Thanks for your videos!

[@jarnopp]

Hey there Shawn! Great to meet you and I'm so glad you're enjoying the channel! I'm also very glad you can see potential in the forum idea. And yes, absolutely. My vision for the community would be a place where, say, we could totally have a thread in which people nominate their least favourite Who serials. :) The difference would be that no-one would then try to jump all over each other's opinions. :D

[@ryantablet7153]

I still dont get why sutekh didnt just take his collar off before the tardis took off?

[@jarnopp]

Hehe, good question Mr T! Maybe he's so ancient that his collar has fused into his throat.

[@garethwilliams1543]

Jason , lovely piece.. Really pleased you liked it. I would put Sutekh's reveal as one of my favourite moments since the show came back in 2005. I knew it was coming back, RTD had seeded things about that throughout the series. After Devils Chord's " 1980 Sarah, if you want to get off?" tonal call back , coupled with the "one who waits" messaging, sealed it for me. I really loved the re-design of Sutekh, but not surprised, although a bit disappointed it's gone down so badly online with some. Ah well. However I didn't care so much about how Ruby's story was resolved. Demystifying Ruby was not the problem for me, and the abiding message: the ordinary is the extraordinary ,should be celebrated. But wow, there were lots of issues with how that was handled.

[@jarnopp]

Well done Gareth, for figuring that out! As I say in the video, I had NO inkling. Probably also helped that I stayed away from online chat and speculation. :)

[@KennyBacchus-l1i]

An. Honest. Reaction. To the. Doctor. Who finale

[@Gothic55]

Thank you for brilliant review. Particularly like your suggestion for safe place for sane Dr Who fans.

[@jarnopp]

Thanks so much! Very kind. And I'm really glad to have received much positive feedback on the idea of a safe space community. I'm actually building it now and populating it with good people, behind the scenes. 💥 Would you like to receive a link here when I open up for the first intake of members? 😊👊

[@Gothic55]

@@jarnopp I would be interested. Paul

[@jarnopp]

@@Gothic55 Cheers Paul! Okay, here you go, take a look: www.skool.com/doctorwho I'm not posting this link widely yet, because I just want to get a few lovely, grown-up fans into the community to set the right tone, be active and have fun! 👊

[@aboyandhisdogRE]

I think almost point for point you had the same reaction as me. I agree loved that her mum was just ordinary. And Mel has been so good since she's been back. I'm also happy Susan granddaughter didn't show up at all. There's too much going on in the story. She needs her own seperate one down the road if at all. I will admit when Kate went I weren't happy lmao so was so happy when cherry and Mrs flood got it, then I knew they'd all be safe. Was so happy. All cherry wants is a cup of tea haha. Mrs flood looking on point at the end. Glad she wasn't just some minion as well, I felt she was always meant for bigger things. But I don't necessarily think bad. 8 episodes was never going to be enough, but we got such great variety between, no 2 alike. It felt like an anthology show. I'm excited for what's to come.

[@jarnopp]

Cool! Thanks for sharing your views - a man of taste, haha. And yes, Mrs Flood, I didn't even get to mention her during my 17 minutes of talking about the episode. Love the mystery of her and the novelty of her talking to camera. :)

[@jarnopp]

Pssst, hey there, here you go, take a look: www.skool.com/doctorwho I'm not posting this link widely yet, because I just want to get a few lovely, grown-up fans into the community to set the right tone, be active and have fun! 😊👊

[@aboyandhisdogRE]

@@jarnopp hey, you set it up. I will take a bloomin good butchers when I get home from work. Sounds awesome.

[@jarnopp]

@@aboyandhisdogRE Yeah, I actually went and did it! And already it's loads of fun. 😊👊😆

[@Kidred-ys2vp]

I have enjoyed the new seaso. But 73 yards left me with more questions than answers. But I thought the season finale was good. And the ending, I think, next season, we will see the return of the Rani. The doctor mentioned her name earlier in the season, and he just named dropped her. Also, do think the new doctor is really good you can tell he's having fun in the role at the end of the devils cord.

[@TheYoungDoctor]

This is Gabriel Wolff 's fifth return as the voice of Sutekh. Oh Mummy on the Pyramids of Mars DVD, Transmission from.Mars / New Adventures of Bernice Summerfield volume 2 Triumph of Sutekh and Faction Paradox audios.

[@jarnopp]

What an amazing veteran the man is! I was lucky to meet him once at a Who Shop event he did alongside David Banks.

[@ThomCurley]

Adored this season. A fresh reinvention of the show. Who with a twist (literally). Amazing and charismatic lead actors. Boy, what performances. The finale was superb. Always hard to deliver on people’s expectations with finale’s, let alone with all the things in the mix. Who fans debated so much and came up with their own takes, but of course they aren’t making the show. This always leads to criticism. People don’t allow the show to do what it wants to do or tell stories in its way. Sure, I get it and there were things to wrap my head around and repeated viewings have helped as it gets better and better with each one. As a teenager and lover of the Davison years, I totally agree with your comparison, Jodie too. Thanks for reviewing. Refreshing. So bored with negative ‘fans’ who constantly diss and pull everything apart because it doesn’t match with their ideas, but then many have a very tired and traditional idea on what Doctor Who should be and struggle to accept change, yet at the same time talking about how the show needs to change. So odd. So I appreciate your comments and totally agree.

[@jarnopp]

Cool. Thanks Thom! Would love to hear your thoughts on my Who community (or Whomunity 👀) which I wrote about in the post I've linked to in this video's description box? 😊👊

[@ThomCurley]

@@jarnopp Yeah, very up for it. Sounds blissful.

[@MarkGuyer-uu3rw]

Jason! Your review of Empire of Death is so refreshing. I mean, my only problems with it were structural. I kind of wish certain scenes were in a different order, but a lot of folks, even people I typically agree with and who aren't doomsayers in any way, are saying they might be done with Doctor Who because they were so disappointed with this finale. Your idea for a safe Doctor Who community is great and I hope you’re able to do it. 👊

[@leecarroll4622]

I thought it was good. The Rubys mum revelation shouldnt have been hyped up but second time round I appreciated it. A nice end after a very dark story. I think theres somebody in Ruby's family will later revealed to be the real problem though.

[@jarnopp]

Intriguing thoughts, Lee, cheers! :)

[@Aneurin_Hunt]

I found Emprie of Death was fine. Not so found of Sutekh siting in the TARDIS the whole time but it is funny thinking about all the stuff he's been through. Jack clung on, it was painted pink, multiple tardises next to each other, the tardis shrinking. Yaz and the Doctor eatjng icecream sitting on the TARDIS. Also i think people letting tjeir fan theroies get ahead of them adds to the disappointment of reveals. Mrs Flood is definitely a brand new character. So i bet some will whinge it isn't the Rani or something. Its never the Rani. I think she might be the boss meep mentioned. Whoever the boss is they are a new character. Fan theroies really love to be like this mysterious thing is definitely something we've seen before. When it usually is something new.

[@purefoldnz3070]

I totally forgot about the boss that the Meep mentioned haha

[@markdanielmooney6801]

Great vid Jason, i thought the finale was one of the best since 2017 (during the golden Capaldi era), it was big, scary, silly, emotional and exciting!

[@jarnopp]

Hey there Mark! So glad you had a good time with it too! 😊👊

[@gordo2471]

I understand why the Empire of Death was what it was. There were so many clever directions it could've gone in that were lost. The cohesion or collusion of these Gods, Susan, Maybe Ruby could've been related to the Master? I was hoping for a little connection to the old Turn left episode (with respect to the Isaac Newton Mavity thing being a potential second timeline). What I got was a Thanos liquid paper wipe. I love Nu Who but dislike any romance (just have tension). I'm enjoying it because I've my John Nathan Turner hat on rather than Barry Letts. I want a new Candyman show. He was a tasty character.

[@jarnopp]

My 5-year-old twins' favourite Who monster is... drum roll... the Kandyman! I've had to perfect his voice. :D Thanks for your thoughts on EOD! :)

[@raymoorey8425]

I'm a big doctor who fan but mostly classic who, NuWho is in my opinion getting worse with every doctor. Terrible writing RTD. I think it's time to cancel doctor who... leave it for a few years then do a re start franchise. So bored now

[@jarnopp]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, sir! 😊👊

[@Aneurin_Hunt]

I don't get this whole doctor who needs a rest. Why? Just because it has been back for 20 years doesn't mean it can't be good again. Also if a bunch of old fans (kids during the classic series so 40+) don't like nuwho but you have more younger fans who do like the direction I see no problem. I feel like some people discuss doctor who like it's still 1987 in terms of stuff like the ratings, it needs a rest. The world is very different. Fans really struggle with understanding casual viewers. They can't easily imagine how the causal views who. I see not need for a rest. Times change. If you don't like the modern show don't watch it. No one forces you to. The old stuff is there for you to rewatch

[@raymoorey8425]

​@Aneurin_Hunt We Are all entitled to our own opinions, so get off your horse.

[@jarnopp]

@@raymoorey8425 And @Aneurin_Hunt is also entitled to their opinion without being told to get off a horse. So let's calm it down there, Ray. 😊😊👊👊

[@jarnopp]

@@Aneurin_Hunt Yes, that's pretty much how I see it. When fans they think the show should rest... it's odd. 9 times out of 10, they mean they should stop watching for a while themselves. :)

[@thetasigma1905]

Jason , I’m glad you liked it and l’m glad that there are some people who are still enjoying Dr Who, but I’m sorry I just don’t think the stories have been that great since Capaldi regenerated into Whittaker. I clocked off after Jodie’s first season and thought I’d give Gatwa a go since RT Davis returned,but unfortunately I don’t see any improvement. Russell seems to litter the season with mystery boxes, which are either red herrings or left unexplained . This is not good story telling. For instance what the hell was the snow that kept appearing around Ruby. Or what song did the Maestro detect within Ruby. And why did the Doctor say time had changed when he went back to Ruby’s past. All unanswered. And maybe I’m an old fart ( turning 55 in a month, but a fan since the 70’s) but why would Sutekh really give a damn about Ruby or her mother. This is a God who wants to destroy everything and he’s concerned about Ruby who can’t find her mother. Surely Clara was a more mysterious conundrum than Ruby. And the reset with everyone come back to life at the end of this story is typical RTD. Just consume and don’t think. But hey that’s me and maybe I’m not the target audience anymore. I still love classic Who and everything up to Capaldi , who was one of my favourite Doctors, but everything after that seems to be an alternative universe spin off. At least I have my blu rays and big finish audios.

[@jarnopp]

Thank you for sharing your views, sir! I appreciate the time spent. 😊👊

[@thetasigma1905]

Thank you for your kind reply and keep up the good work. I especially appreciate your classic who blu ray unboxings/ reviews.

[@jarnopp]

@@thetasigma1905 Awesome! Thanks so much for watching the channel. 😊😊👊

[@Mark-nh2hs]

I think the fans cried more for not seeing The Hand of Sutekh making a cameo 🤣

[@jarnopp]

Haha, yes - it was missed! 😆

[@Mark-nh2hs]

@@jarnopp nods sagely whilst puffing on one's pipe

[@garytwinem5275]

And The Medical Booster Cushion of Sutekh 🙂

[@dr.impossibleofcounterpunc1984]

Peter Capaldi was the last Doctor for me, even though the series was already on the slide during his tenure. Now, it's car crash television. Mr. Davies seems to be worlds worst writer all of a sudden. Rapid diversity and inclusion have developed all over the show like an outbreak of alien measles or Axon mumps. Either way, the show is a pile of shite. Russell is only doing what the BBC/Disney pay him to do. That is to make certain the show appeals to LGBTQ community and nothing else. Gone are the days when social agendas were background scenery in story development. Now it's like doing a full frontal with bells and whistles. For me, Doctor Who is now dead. Been a fan since 1978. I shall never venture forth into the TARDIS again.

[@jarnopp]

Well, if you see diversity and inclusion, or LGBTQ elements as negative aspects, then I can't say that the TARDIS will miss you. Disliking the show for the writing or stories is of course fine, but that's just such a weird point of view.

[@Fringe31422au]

I'm more mixed on the finale, but I don't think it sucked. And there is definitely more that I liked than disliked. Overall, I think it chooses to sacrifice some plot or story elements in favor of those emotional beats, which with the exception of the reveal of Ruby's biological mom, hits very well. I the problems with the finale tie more into the problems with the season overall. The shorter season didn't lend itself to flushing out the fundamentals well like some of the exposition, dynamic between Doctor and companion, seeing the range of solutions from the fifteenth doctor that we would have gotten with more episodes (especially since we have two episodes where the Doctor is less present). This kinda left the finale with more to do imo and the writers having to make decisions on what gets elaborated upon. I like the experimentation but it feels like I didn't know this doctor or companion well enough yet. I also dislike the Who-bashing as it feels more like a distraction than anything else. And to those people I would encourage them to take a break, chill, come back when there's a new doctor and catch up on the backlog. I find that my impression of the Chibnall era was much more neutral when I inadvertently took a break from the show due to life and coming back to it this year.

[@markbelsom3174]

The only question I have about the finale is..... WHO IS MRS FLOOD???? Was also expecting season 13 to be announced as the next collection box set.

[@jarnopp]

Oh yes, good point about S13! Would've been perfect timing!

[@fellowcitizen]

Gosh, my watching of Next Gen Dr Who has been ever more threadbare since Tennant left, actually -- but, hearing that Sutekh is voiced by the original compels me to check it out.

[@jarnopp]

It's so lovely! And Gabriel is now 91.

[@stevebennett4919]

Mmm well the new doctor is good i think he fits well. The stories IMO not great apart from the last 2 eps of this season. Nice to see clips from Tom Baker so thumbs up for that....... I think we need better written story's more scary and like the Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker era, two things going on at the same time switching from one to the other. I wish someone would write some Robot stories ? How about your good self write ✍️ 🤔 some classic monster stories.....Daleks travelling from way back in our time, like the evil of the daleks what a clever story that was....... more Ice Warriors? Ow i could go on and on...... 😊 Great video as always......

[@andykey78]

I found this video really frustrating and I normally love your content! Sorry, Jason. I'm a decades long subscriber to DWM and the only thing that niggles me is their unfaltering praise and positivity for absolutely everything, there are rarely any shades of grey or acknowledgement of anything that didn't work. I get it, DWM is the flagship Doctor Who publication so they need to make that editorial choice. The thing is, I 100% agree with everything you highlighted about these episodes! Loved TLoRS and the epic cliffhanger, loved the moped chase, loved Kate's speech, adored the Remembered TARDIS, loved the scene with the Kind Woman, I was satisfied with the reveal about Ruby's mum, I have been really impressed with Ncuti and Milly all season etc. etc. But these are a collection of highlights, what left me feeling empty and unfilled at the end was the really muddled or complete lack of connective tissue between these elements. To quote 10/14 I spent a lot of EoD shouting what? What! WHAT!? at the screen. When RTD himself admits that there was "complete narrative collapse" with the teleport scene then I think a reviewer can admit that there were elements that didn't work or didn't make sense. Yes there are trolls and really nasty people online who seem to have missed the fundamental themes of Doctor Who, but there is also a lot of healthy discourse and honest criticism. I understand the need for a 'safe space' away from the toxicity but if that means living in a 'Dot and Bubble' world of positivity with no nuance then it's not for me. It can be rough out here but I'm hopeful one day a random man, dressed randomly as a monk will arrive and ask me for my spoon before I die. Happy times and places x

[@jarnopp]

Hehe, thanks for sharing your thoughts in such a nice and balanced way, Andy. The thing with me is, I have neither the time nor the inclination to reallllly dig deep into narrative, plot and all that stuff. It's just not something that naturally preoccupies me, which is odd given that I'm a writer myself! I think, with Who, I've always just loved the bones of it, and that's the mode I prefer to stay in, rather than digging out my magnifying glass. Full respect to anyone who does, though. I can understand your concern about a 'safe space' community being a weird positive bubble (ha) but it won't be that at all. Members can absolutely express not having liked or enjoyed an episode - but the difference is they won't be jumping all over each other's opinions and being rude or horrendous to each other. Respect is the key word. That and a certain lack of rage. :D Judging by your thoughtful comment, you'd fit in a treat! 😊👊

[@tardistime6857]

Same here

[@tardistime6857]

Sorry but sutekh in the tardis is stupid dose this mead sutekh is inside 14 tardis ? The tardis went to the end of the universe to shake captain jack off but not a god of death ? When the tardis blew up in the Pandoraca why didn’t sutekh escape then or when the tardis caught on fire or falling into the parallel world when multiple doctors meet with their tardis’s dose that mean there are multiple sutekhs ? Sorry but it’s a stupid plot hole the more you think about it

[@jarnopp]

Oh dear, Raymond. The classic pitfall of "Man doesn't share my view, therefore man must be dishonest shill". I would continue to be sent Collection sets, even if I'd slagged the finale off to high heaven. As I suggest in the video, I mostly don't care about plot holes. You do. Live with it. And if you continue to be rude, I'll remove you from the channel.

[@jarnopp]

@@RaymondWilliams-uu1ns I'll wager you said exactly the same thing at the end of Season 13. You'll be back! You lav it, I tells ya.

[@jarnopp]

@@RaymondWilliams-uu1ns I'm afraid you're living in the old world where TV shows could be judged by overnight ratings. Now the ratings grow and grow. Space Babies is already up to 6 million views and that will only continue to rise. But good on ya, for pledging to help out next time. 😄👊

[@jarnopp]

@@RaymondWilliams-uu1ns Finally! Something we can agree on.😄

[@tardistime6857]

@@jarnopp it doesn’t matter if you don’t mind plot holes but the rest of us see just stupid lazy writing and that annoys us

[@garytwinem5275]

Wouldn't it be great if Russell T. Davies did a complete volte-face in the next season and went full Red Wedding in a story? That would be epic 🙂

[@jarnopp]

Haha, yes! Part of me DID want the dust massacre to remain. Would've gone down as the most shocking moment since, well, Earthshock! :)

[@Eriktheviking66]

I grew up watching classic who , started watching from Jon pertwee . As for nu who there’s been some I’ve really enjoyed and others I’ve haven’t . Haven’t really enjoyed this season not because of the acting but more the storylines, felt let down by the reveal of ruby’s parent s as was expecting more maybe an explanation why ruby makes it snow . The doctor basically put a leash on the villian and took him for a walk thus turning back time and we had a reset button . Yes I realise that may be an unpopular opinion and no doubt I’ll get attacked here . We all face criticism and have different opinions in life so let agree to disagree

[@jarnopp]

Hehe, "took him for a walk". 😆 😊👊

[@Eriktheviking66]

@@jarnopp , one way to look at it . Then just like magic everything was re set . Wonder what this means for gallifrey ?

[@jarnopp]

@@Eriktheviking66 👀👀😮😮😮😮😮😮😊😊👊👊

[@Eriktheviking66]

@@jarnopp , hopefully we’ll see Gallifrey soon

[@HandOfDoom9349]

I pretty much agree totally. A joyous finale. Some loose ends, but when was there not? I'm amused at the amount of people criticising Sutekh's demise when they were perfectly happy with him slowly moving into a time corridor and shouting "noooooooo!!!" In Pyramids 😂 Pedant alert - Tigella was in Meglos. Creature was set on Chloris. Killer shirt btw 😊

[@jarnopp]

Hehe, thanks Ben, great thoughts! And yes, Chloris does make much more sense as a name for a leafy planet. :D Have you seen this post I dropped in the community feed? Would love to hear your take on the idea: www.youtube.com/@jarnopp/community

[@markstevenson621]

Hi Jason I would of liked to see the 1975 sutech

[@Mark-nh2hs]

I've been more of a classic Who fan than NuWho. But this story irritated me which is rare. I knew they would do the whole predictable NuWho trope of everyone comes back to life again - seen in series 1, 3 and implied in series 4. If Sutekh destroyed everything in 2024 the events of 2045 would never happened seeing that Sutekh infected every time line the TARDIS went meaning the timeline of the mad prime minister would of been infected and destroyed. So according to RTD all time lords even classic Doctors bi generated including TARDIS meaning there are multiple Sutekh running around?? The total dismissive attitude towards the 4th Doctor was shocking. Sutekh had multiple times to destroy Ruby also in Pyramids he had no interest in what humans felt or thought hated all mankind yet he suddenly he's intreasted in Rudys mum - who would be dead anyway. Made zero sense, also we know how Ruby got her name it was explained in the Christmas special. Saying hahaha Ruby is just normal why do all the Magical snow and Maestro feared her?? Typical RTD an ok first part then it all falls apart in the second part. 😂 Killing that entire universe off and leaving it dead would of been OK seeing the Toymaker and I'm sure said he's altered the universe meaning it maybe not the real universe but a mirror one created by the Toymaker? If he didn't That's what I would of done 🤣

[@tardistime6857]

Was really bad

[@jarnopp]

Thanks for sharing your view! :)

[@tardistime6857]

@@jarnoppNo problem

[@TheYoungDoctor]

I saw at the cinema with my cousin. I prefer to call it season 40.

[@jarnopp]

How were the cinema crowd liking it?

[@TheYoungDoctor]

We all really enjoyed it.

[@cameronr243]

Didn't like the first two episodes but enjoyed the rest of the series. Still a bit confused about some aspects.

[@lindseykaine-walley6339]

Didn't watch any of it, not watched since Capaldi left and those terrible 60th specials. I didn't want a female doctor. He was my hero. I gave Tennant (14th) a try but could see it was going in a different direction. Was let down by RTD. Not watched any of (15th) episodes, and it was the best choice I made. I have been a fan since 81, I don't want to see the doctor kissing men and prancing around. Could you imagine Tom Baker doing that? It's supposed to be a sci-fi programme, not a sex fantasy series. It's lost its heart of the show. It's probably gone forever now. If you enjoy this, then good for you. I will stick to the wonderful classic era. Where he is still my hero, my Doctor.

[@jarnopp]

"Prancing around", Lindsey? Hmm, oh dear. Did you not mind the Doctor kissing Rose and other women, then?

[@lindseykaine-walley6339]

@jarnopp I didn't mind the Rose story as it was done tastefully. Not hey, watch me I'm kissing men now! Its not needed. If you were to write a story, would you go out on agendas like RTD or write a great sci-fi story? As that's all I want a story without all this pantomime stuff in between.

[@grantg7457]

It was soooo CRAP!!!! I don't know where to start? The memory Tardis?, Sutekh being stupidly defeated?, Rose Noble doing absolutely NOTHING. The first part of the final was great though

[@jarnopp]

Hey there Grant! Sorry you felt that way. 😊👊 At least you liked that penultimate ep.

[@cameronr243]

Not Really into The Big Epic doctor who episodes, prefer the more classic style stories

[@paulsamfreya785]

I agree, its always the whole universe, or 'all of time' under threat....

[@jarnopp]

Cool. What are some of your favourite classic Who tales? :)

[@cameronr243]

@jarnopp depends what mood I'm in sometimes I like a William Hartnell story like the Romans or The Chase, sometimes Tom Baker like Genesis of the daleks or Peter Davison like Kinda and Earthshock

[@ftumschk]

Glad you mentioned Millie Gibson's acting - I've been enjoying her "natural" style from the outset, and imho she carried this season slightly moreso than Ncuti Gatwa, fine though he is. BTW - sepulchral is pronounced "se-PUL-kral" = "relating to a grave/tomb" (sepulchre).

[@jarnopp]

Ooh! I had a FEELING I wasn't quite getting that right. 😆 Thank you. Glad you also appreciate The Gibson!

[@stutube3409]

I think that the first part was OK but the second was a real disappointment very lazy writing

[@jarnopp]

Thanks for sharing your view! 😊👊

[@markstevenson621]

I see in tales of the tardis on bbc iplayer there pyramids of mars with new fx

[@jarnopp]

Yes and it's good! I need to watch it again, because I'd had a couple of wines when I saw it. :D

[@TheYoungDoctor]

Tigella was Meglis.

[@jarnopp]

Hehe, yes - I got mixed up!

[@KennyBacchus-yg3uv]

How. l really. Feel. About. The. Doctor. Who. Finale

[@nicholasnewland3490]

I think this season was a great improvement over anything from the Chibnal era but that being said we're still far off the mark of the first RTD era in quality. That being said I think the season finale improves the episodes that came before in the season. Still of the mindset they should nuke the entire Chibnal era that was horrid

[@jarnopp]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Nicholas!

[@gladiator652004]

The writing's terrible and Ncuti isn't the Doctor.

[@jarnopp]

Hello G! I'm sorry to break it to you, but he literally is. 😃

[@gladiator652004]

@jarnopp He's not Doctory enough, is what I mean. Not enough eccentricity/quirk, no authority, no screen presence. And to think we could have had Jo Martin! (or Don Warrington, Idris Elba, Sophie Okonedo, Paterson Joseph, Adrian Lester....)