Apple Vision Pro changes everything LIVE | Genius Bar Ep. 150

[@RealJoseph123]

This shouldn’t even count as an episode. This is a whole movie.

[@Mark-eh7kx]

Yeah, and looking at those avitars never stopped being disturbing!

[@RealJoseph123]

@@Mark-eh7kx So this or Memojis?

[@InfiniteRegen]

⁠@@RealJoseph123I like the idea of it being an option to use a avatar or Memoji

[@Mark-eh7kx]

@@RealJoseph123 How about neither.

[@RealJoseph123]

@@InfiniteRegen Yeah, the option of one or the other would be nice! 🫡

[@penningtonproductionsvideo]

I would NOT complain if the podcast continued in vision os. it's obvious that you two are connected to each other much better which made for a better podcast. Audio was great too.

[@JohnBlackwolf]

Sam's persona looks like Voldemort on the back of the head of Professor Quirrell on HP 1.

[@MatejMachac]

But the video game version.

[@prashantchauhan6990]

ohh, now I cannot unsee it

[@chidorirasenganz]

Ehh more like the original cg for Thor: Love and Thunder

[@jrkern]

He looks like his head is on body backwards - it's funny :P

[@MatejMachac]

@@jrkern that took me a while to understand when I first saw it. The head clips trough the chest whenever he leans back😂

[@wynq]

I love how it starts with "It's too heavy, I can't bear to wear it for any length of time" and then goes for over 3 hours of constant use and Jon can't wait to put it back on after getting disconnected.

[@qayyax]

I know right.

[@InfiniteRegen]

Guess I’m never unhearing that first sponsor read 💀💀 0:00 - GeniusBar in AVP 0:40 - Persona review 4:00 - Day by day with AVP 6:20 - Sam’s Drop test video 9:50 - Day by day experience 12:00 - Sam was the first 13:25 - Jon’s Apple Store visit 20:05 - Jon’s frustration to relief 29:30 - Perspective changes 45:15 - Front display 50:39 - Jon’s video 55:40 - Quest 3 vs Vision Pro Display 58:42 - Sponsor - UseJoyMode 1:00:55 - Field of View 1:03:00 - What now moment 1:05:30 - Cameras 1:11:40 - Audio 1:16:40 - In bed + giving experiences 1:23:05 - Personas 1:26:30 - weight 1:30:25 - Mac on AVP 1:33:25 - Elderly man experience 1:37:40 - Jon’s brother 1:46:20 - spacial video and panorama 1:52:25 - latency theory 1:55:00 - The thing 2:03:45 - launch day wasn’t real + Worth it? 2:12:20 - props to the quest 2:20:50 - Optic ID 2:22:36 - Sponsor - Notion 2:24:35 - Improvements for AVP 2:28:30 - In the Future 2:32:30 - Appreciate its working 2:34:40 - The iPhone moment 2:36:00 - Lenses vs no lenses 2:38:40 - No barrier 2:41:10 - Plans for AVP 2:43:20 - A trip to the moon 2:50:40 - Keyboard, Amazon & Zoom 2:56:00 - Discovering AR models 3:13:40 - Jon without Vision Pro 3:19:00 - Jon back in Vision Pro 3:22:00 - Flawed but good 3:28:15 - How do we wrap this 3:33:50 - Thank you to the people 3:36:30 - Experienced so much so quick 3:39:08 - Wrapping up Got use to Jon’s persona that brief moment of him without it was so odd 😂

[@MickiMinach]

Our GB hero 🫡🫡🫡

[@John-Smith02]

​@@MickiMinachGB? Good boy? Oh. Genius Bar lol.

[@John-Smith02]

How the actual fuck did you label 3 hours 40 minutes of stuff?

[@InfiniteRegen]

@@John-Smith02 Coffee and dedication🤣

[@rrich_]

​@@InfiniteRegen how much did you get for it?

[@buhraion3873]

I feel like sam's persona's head is on backwards on his shoulders.

[@cmejia04]

I can't unsee it now 😂

[@matxavier_]

Haha, whhhyyyyyyyy? Same. What is seen can’t be unseen, lol. 😅

[@AeroSatan]

He looks like an AI mistake.

[@jpmoney3683]

Sam looking like the nerd from Polar Express

[@MichaelsLife]

lol You’re not wrong

[@S.E.C-R]

YES! Polar Express… you hit the nail square on the head! I knew he looked like something familiar but couldn’t think of it!!

[@GurtonBuster07]

LMAOOOOOOOo

[@Jermigggricoooo]

💀💀💀💀

[@gabriel.moreno8173]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@MatejMachac]

3 hours 40 minutes? This is WAN show level commitment. I’m 9 minutes in and already know The wait was worth it.

[@Steven-gq4dj]

The way you guys interacted and the conversation flowed felt noticeably more natural in this.

[@jpe1974]

What?? Don’t u remember from their last video the Apple Vision Pro was a lie??

[@jonmarc876]

Ngl these personas are actually very impressive. You can see Sam actually laying back and his expressions still come thru. Really amazing.

[@southerncyan4098]

yeah, I don't necessarily keep up with tech so much, but they looked incredible to me~

[@pumpuppthevolume]

and some scans look even better and they just updated it to be a bit better .....and this is just the beginning

[@Fransanny57]

I had a chat when I was doing my demo at my local Apple Store with one of the employees. She said that she didn't really "get" or understand Vision Pro. But earlier that morning she had a lady come in, she was in her 70's. She said that her husband had just passed away and that she had lots of videos on her iPhone. They specially loaded her AppleID onto one of the Vision Pros and played back the videos. She was in tears. It was right in that moment where the employee clicked and knew that this was huge. Because just like Jon said, it's rare when a piece of technology can have that emotional affect on you. I just wanted to share that story.

[@Rob_1010]

I love how Jon’s persona looks pretty normal, he’s talking and moving etc. then Sam’s is just completely wide eyed, like it’s the first time he’s seen the world 😂

[@well7885]

To all the people…. Don’t stop watching until the end. Especially from @3:00:00 This is genuinely the best Genius Bar moment of all time.

[@midkay]

Absolutely correct, this episode is legendary. From around 2:52:00 through the end is just a WILD ride. One of my favorite viewing experiences in KZbin history.

[@tredogzs]

and yet this idiot broke a piece of tech history that is going to be worth MILLIONS and he still thinks his brain works. also these idiots think the vision pro is a brand new idea apple just threw together???????? They have been working on this for 20 years.... they have more versions of vision pro than any meta anything..... this is the FINAL version, this is already version 10,000.... these guys are clueless

[@iamhydroland]

A nearly 4-hour pod and it’s simply called “I Get It Noe” - simply genius! 😂

[@RunForPeace-hk1cu]

They should have gotten it before it was released . Are you guys supposed to be Apple fans 😂😂😂😂 Doubting Apple on their biggest launch since iPhone is hilarious 😂😂

[@harrykatsaros]

Absolute scenes on the moon 😂😂😂 I was in tears laughing at these guys losing their minds at literally everything. Everyone has to watch this show until the end. It gets wild. The best review of this product by far!!

[@estevanprado2005]

Jon: Spatial video will allow users to relieve moments with passed loved ones Sam: *Doesnt bat an eye* Also Sam: Btw, I saw this panorama of my old apartment that made me emotional Sam really is naïve sometimes

[@DF-ep3kk]

Maybe he’s just younger =)

[@AeroSatan]

He’s in a serious spectrum.

[@ekjotsngh]

This podcast episode did more to convince me to buy an Apple Vision Pro than any of apple's marketing 😭

[@southerncyan4098]

At least, we are definitely going to talk about it in conversations. It's more than a "VR headset," its an advancement!

[@gargallant9811]

Apple should excerpt this in advertising

[@Dave-cg9li]

I've watched all the major reviews, but somehow it's this podcast that got me so excited about this product line. Just can't wait for it to get more affordable!!

[@viienn]

You two gotta make more podcasts like this, this is literally the longest podcast I have watched and it was entertaining.

[@hhh-rc5gt]

Sam’s persona looks like it’s a player in nba2k. The face, the movements, the expressions, everything lol

[@GurtonBuster07]

The way his persona looks into the camera is hilarious there is something wrong with his eyes 😭😭💀

[@AeroSatan]

Yea if that created player was mentally stunted.

[@AeroSatan]

It’s worse.

[@smeinzer]

This is by far the best Vision Pro video out yet. Watching you guys explore in real time is so close to the same experience I’ve had with mine and this is the only Vision Pro video that has shown that. Very well done

[@smeinzer]

Just Wanted to add one thing. As I scrolled to write this comment, the audio from the KZbin video in safari moved above me in space as I scrolled down. This truly is mind blowing!

[@BlakeLeasure]

Guys. Thanks for the Oppenheimer-length episode for the 150th spectacular but I’m gonna have to wait until the weekend before I can afford to watch it all 😭😭😭

[@jqyhlmnp]

Meta Quest's like spyware. The important thing isn’t can you lose your data, it’s can you share it. Can you share the data, Samuel?

[@Nursejustinreviews]

This is one of the best episodes of Genius Bar and that’s a high bar in my opinion. You guys took us through the ups and downs of Vision Pro like no review or anything I have seen. Great job thank you.

[@MantisLover101]

"It's like going on this really great vacation and I really love it there, but I gotta take this rickety old car to get there. And that's what this is. Vision OS is the destination." WOW what a quote Jon!

[@Jacko-06]

John, until this episode, I ddin't understand how much work you put into making normal epsiodes sounds great.

[@basementuser]

The potential for the AR models is INSANE! Just imagine a future where 3-6 years down the line we don’t even need phones or watches in the physical form! Just like how the iPod was replaced by an APP on the iPhone; the idea that we could see virtual iPhones, Apple Watches, iPads and MacBooks through the eyes of the Vision Pro is absolutely CRAZY!!

[@jbs256]

Duuuuuuuudes! This was longer than The Godfather! By a lot! It was worth it. OMG. I don’t have $4K but I so want one. The movie you guys need to share is 2001: A Space Odyssey. The Monolith is The iPhone. This was epic and I got through it all. I did have to take a couple of breaks but I came back and unpaused. 4 freakin’ hours! This was an experience not a podcast. Thank you!

[@pumpuppthevolume]

when Jon was mentioning his brother and the video of his kid ...by accident my one year old was sleeping on my chest and I got really emotional I had to stop the podcast for a bit ...and that's a podcast ....when u get those mirror neurons fireing the experience is crazy ...and it's easy to do when u feel u r there

[@ettoreoddo]

The giant-iPhone-in-3D moment felt like you guys discovered the monolith from 2001: A space Odysee on the moon LOL

[@sungm2n]

The entire episode is freaking spot on. That’s exactly how I felt.

[@hugowells3052]

Jon and Sam losing their minds and just screaming is peak Genius Bar

[@TheTechOrc]

Anyone else notice at 3:34:41 that Sam was filling his cup full of water and it didn't pic it up on the mic, but his voice still came through...the voice isolation is wild!!!!

[@HeythereDavehere]

Starting around the 3 hour mark is podcast gold.

[@kaubin]

That's insane to do the Podcast in the whole Apple Vision Pro ahahahaha love this!

[@charlottesimss9853]

Absolutely insane job on this. I’m on a road trip and have been listening to just audio, besides stopping to check video a couple times, and yall have absolutely sold me on this. The way to describe everything is so vivid and relatable, and yall tone is definitely so chill vs normal podcasts. Like I feel like I’m I’m the same room as yall just hanging out. Like this is seriously such a top tier episode and the only video that does this product justice. This seriously is the next chapter of tech and our interaction with the world and I have a lot of confidence in apple to take it on responsibly and carefully. Almost cried when Jon explained showing your brother the video functions and Sam his college memories. I definitely am gonna start taking panos of places I am to remember them in 5 years

[@upload00]

For best FOV use light seal 11 21 or 32-33 - the second number relates to depth from lenses.. which matters a TON

[@natelevicurrie]

Genius Bar: The Movie

[@John-Smith02]

Guess I'm staying up until like 3 AM again

[@tmon6219]

When I was in High School we didn't even have a computer class. Tech has CHANGED!

[@AakashMehta]

Phew, just finished the whole episode (a lot of it at 2x speed).. felt like I went through the rollercoaster with you guys!

[@Steven-gq4dj]

I've been waiting so long for this. Out of all the vision pro videos I've been most excited for this one.

[@unquestionabletv]

2:46:26 Steve Jobs ACTUAL last words.

[@1worldboi]

This episode ramps up and doesn’t stop building till the end. These two guys get it. VisionOS is ready now. The form factor isn’t quite there yet.

[@kreigerbailey3550]

Portland, JAMAICA in the Building!!! 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲

[@bujin5455]

The panos are REALLY compelling. They "feel" real, like you are back where you where when you took them. Like flat photos feel disconnected from reality, like they never look/feel like what it was like at the time, but having the image wrap around you, maintains the perspective you had when you took the shot, like it reproduces the actual scene in the way we always wished photos would. It makes me wish I had taken WAY more of these over the years.

[@HardyOh]

This "episode" was the actually the best experience I could ever experience from all the Vision Pro "review" videos. I am genuinely hyped for the future of VisionOS and the 2nd/3rd generation of this product. Well done Apple.

[@Jason_N_Paradise]

Your reviews were the one I was waiting for compared to everybody else's, this episode was so genuine to see your reactions. And I never seen Sam's face so surprised! 🤣🤣🤣

[@vfanz22]

Love the later half of the show even more! The experience and emotions was great!

[@mumbolio851]

People that are near the start, keep going to the end. It gets incredible

[@S.E.C-R]

Sam’s persona looks goofy as hell, it’s hilarious, but Jon looks pretty much like Jon in real life. Sam’s reactions to everything had me cracking up so hard I had no idea what you guys were even talking about, but his raw excited and shocked reactions like he was high AF about the watch are more than enough to make me want one!! This whole thing is one long meme, I can’t wait until the memes come out, they’re going to be amazing!!

[@GurtonBuster07]

Same bro i am high as hell and im just watching Sam’s personas eyes just bugging out the whole podcast 😂😂😂

[@GurtonBuster07]

1:16:06 if you wanna crack up 😂

[@S.E.C-R]

@@GurtonBuster07That’s one of my favorite parts, they’re practically in my backyard, I live by Mt Hood and get to see it every time I look out my window, but this part 3:03:54 had me literally crying with laughter, Sam has to be high AF! 😂😂😂

[@MrBlackReviews]

probably the only video i've seen that makes me want this thing!!!! good job

[@cowpatchman]

It's close to 12 noon in my time zone, just in time for lunch and when I saw the length of this podcast, I think I will be crossing over to having supper when this podcast is done. LOL!

[@brettbianchi6706]

Gosh Jon. Hearing you talk about the experience you did for your brother in spacial video. My sister died of cancer 7 years ago, I was 16 at the time. I have a video of her that I will go back to and watch because of the memory. But if I could’ve had SPACIAL VIDEO of that one video I have, the THOUGHT of being able to experience that alone is enough to make me emotional. I truly believe this feature can be so special for so many people. Similar to how you talked about personal voice when that released.

[@AoW7]

56:50 there are legit times i have tried to move my head around the windows and objects to pick things up etc. not bc they block the view bc it feels like the window and objects are real.

[@xanderd.1387]

I watched the ENTIRE video and it was one of the more entertaining podcasts/videos I've seen in a while. Great job, Sam and Jon! I went to my local Apple store and tried the Vison Pro demo and I was blown away, I wish I could have played with it for hours!

[@gregorygeorge8695]

Always fun coming back to this every once and awhile. Both of you went on so many arcs in these videos. A lot of times just going round and round😂

[@ChanningChea]

I tried the demo in store and thought It was incredible. And immediately knew after that all of Sam and Jern’s gripes would go away.

[@JC012732]

I love the take at 38:44. I can imagine batteries becoming so efficient that your phone battery powers the Vision Pro, continuity extending to your phone, etc

[@upload00]

Imagine when you can lock an app to a place in a room and it stays, even when you leave and reboot the device, etc.. even when you run the app again, it still has a version of it locked to a place. Go in office, bam whole setup, go home to living room, it’s tv on wall and notes in kitchen, etc etc.. Having them persist outside of “app sessions” , even when they unload out of memory and apps sleep, they still stay at same place in space

[@maxieroo629]

Something that I found to be helpful when FaceTiming in Vision Pro is raising the window a bit above your head like you would hold an iPhone up for a better angle. It’s way more flattering for the personas which is kind funny.

[@zwifty7148]

THIS is what I was waiting for. I just placed an order for Vision Pro. Awesome episode!

[@tanakansookgasi8103]

I feel you Jon. Love it.

[@troughle]

For anyone who watched and hasn't subscribed. Hit the button, you will not regret. Jon and Sam are always honest and entertaining. More subscribers should be watching them weekly!

[@sonictonic_]

This is fantastic guys. Thank you. 😁🙏🏼💙

[@doompod]

Watching both of your heads explode as you pinch to zoom was amazing 😂

[@lilmichael212]

There’s a huge difference in the feeling of presence between you guys in the way you talk in this. Literally felt like y’all were hanging out idk if that’s the FaceTime or just the excitement to talk but interesting

[@rkarnes6304]

1:01:00 in, you guys start talking about FOV. Here's where the future is going to come from: The current screens in AVP(version 1) are microOLED. This involves an array of white LEDs illuminating underneath a layer of blackout masks, perforated by red, green, and blue light filters. Unless you make larger screen displays (more weight, more power consumption, and a LOT more cost b/c of lower yield), you cannot increase the FOV b/c the amount of angle to wrap light around to a wider FOV would cause illuminated white LEDs to be masked out by photons striking the black filter masking. If you look toward the extreme edges of the FOV in an AVP, you'll notice the beginning of dimming because the blackout masking begins to occlude the white LED emitters where the RGB filters end and the masking begins. THE GOOD NEWS is: There is a new microOLED technology coming up that does NOT require color filters NOR blackout masking! It goes by a name, something like, RGBmicroOLED, where there are white, red, green and blue LEDs on a SINGLE substrate plain with NO overhead filtering OR masking needed. Not having masking concerns, the light from these can be gathered through wider pancake lenses to wrap around our vision to produce a wider FOV. (Also, being on a single-layer substrate, they are thinner -- therefore lighter -- and possibly simpler to produce.) I think the AVP(version 2) will come out with this technology at production scale at the beginning of 2027. Then the screen brightness can be maintained out to a much greater field of view WITHOUT increasing the screen die size!

[@alexdylan04]

One of if not the best genius bar episode yet, took me 4 days to complete watching but worth it. The flow was fun and natural, loved it

[@theo5675]

The Vision Pro is the best VR experience ever!! It’s not perfect but damn it’s close!

[@adama3231]

I love it how back when iPhone was announced one of the biggest reactions from the crowd was pinch & zoom. Here we are some seventeen years later with Vision Pro & one of the biggest reactions from you guys in a 3+ hour podcast is again, pinch & zoom. What a full circle moment 🔄

[@Epicgamer_Mac]

Wtf?!? You did a 3 hr 40 min video? Gosh dang!! You guys are the freakin’ goat!

[@paulofthebailey]

2:11:30 … isn’t there a thicker cushion option that comes in the box?

[@rickyisajedi]

Been waiting for this!

[@movingloz]

3:40:51. And you made me watch all of this after I’d already listened to all of this…haha…And I am sooo glad I did. This was amazing guys. Thank You 🙏.

[@well7885]

@3:14:00 You can see that Jon Prosser has tears in his eyes

[@Taigan_HSE]

Random thought, what if in visionOS you could check your battery level by looking at the battery? Like you just pick up the battery and look at it and it overlays a percentage over the case?

[@KindHappyLove]

I watched Dune yesterday and it was as good of an experience as I had in the Dolby Atmos theater. The craziest part was the light from the video screen actually reflected in my room. So if it was a warm scene it cast yellow light on objects in my room. It was nuts!

[@Epicgamer_Mac]

Wait are you fking kidding me?! It shines reflections on external objects, but within the headset? That’s baller dude, I might get one just for that level of precision and detail alone!

[@michaelhuang5087]

This is so cool. I wonder if they're actually doing raytracing or something similar to get these light and reflections effects so on point. If so, that R1 chip is really pulling its weight.

[@Maximo_ari]

Dude I watched Dune on it too. Was hilarious seeing the Baron float in front of me, ha.

[@KindHappyLove]

@@michaelhuang5087 not sure if it technically ray tracing. I kinda doubt it to be honest. They are more than likely just using their dimming effect from what I saw it was mostly a color change, but it was enough to trick my brain into feeling like there was an actual screen in front of me.

[@michaelhuang5087]

@@KindHappyLove I see, yea i doubt they would use raytracing without featuring it more in their marketing.

[@MickiMinach]

AVP is out and we still haven't gotten the Meta Quest episode with Sara Dietschy 😩

[@kaarteeek]

feels

[@blakephotographytexas]

Sara’s been like … pregnant and on a break

[@kaarteeek]

@@blakephotographytexas I'm sorry but they already recorded it or had confirmed it while she was pregnant. things just didn't line up and it's absolutely understandable. I'm sorry if it came across as rude 😭

[@javier452]

Sam for the Spatial video try watching some spatial video that’s recorded FROM the AVP instead of the iPhone. The AVP spatial video recordings is leaps better than from the iPhone.

[@huloadalbert6437]

man, that process. like coming in critical and sober. and by the end you guys put me on the hype train like nothing fucking else. what a ride.

[@theentity05]

By the way, you can pull Safari up and read it like it’s in your hand. You can scroll through the Vanity Fair article like it’s an IPAD.

[@starlus50]

I must say it is very refreshing to see y’all experience in the end of this episode did genuine excitement is so refreshing

[@Alnaar]

It was fascinating seeing you guys go through the discovery learning phases with the Vision Pro. Every time I put mine on I find something new that I didn't expect. Great video!

[@marcw6072]

Love you too Sam. 👍

[@independentlyblind5816]

Sam’s image also reminds me of a puppet, and Jon you look like you’re trying to be a ventriloquist lol

[@DanZimmerli]

watching you guys freak out over a gigantic Apple Watch is worth the price of admission 😂

[@midkay]

3:05:38 I'm dead 💀I could watch this over and over lmao

[@RaghavVijay]

Ok this is really convincing,I mean watching you half way I kind of forgot you were at home in the environments-And then realised you were actually at home just before,-That environment looks so good,I seriously can’t imagine how that looks in real life on the headset! This definitely feels like a moment!! Even I was shocked when you increased that iPhone size-Wow!

[@sad_michael]

I actually love this format for the show 🤣

[@lucio20006]

3:40 hrs postcast??? Who is going to watch it all?? Me: yes

[@troughle]

This is well worth the almost 4 hours. Turn it on and play it in the background. Jon / Sam thank you! I do want Apple Vision Pro but will wait until they get the price down on version 2

[@CF35]

Imma need that timestamp guy a lot for this one

[@rileybusse9351]

The only problem with this is you can’t pinch in and zoom on the camera Which if you’re paying $3500 or $4000 at the most, you should be able to pinch into the camera to be able to zoom. That’s kind of bull crap But maybe they will implement that with the cheaper lighter version that starts at $1500 For 128 GB and $2000 for 256 GB and $2500 for 512 GB unless they do 256 GB and then 512 GB and then they do 1TB/2TB For the Mac storage for $2500 now that I could see except I would love it to be $250 for the starting price and then $500 for the medium metal price and then for the maximum price it should be $750. That way they add the ability to pinch inside of the camera to zoom in and know that you don’t get on the original mission release starts at $1500 and then an even cheaper version call the Apple vision or Apple vision light or Apple vision mini that only costs $1000 at the max storage option then I could see it being a replacement to the iPhone and the MacBook and the Apple studio display and the Apple Mac studio and the Apple Pro display XDR and the Standard iMac

[@ridinbmw]

Great pod cast listened to the whole thing. Still trying to get that special moment in Vision Pro but it’s only been a couple hours.

[@AndreMoraesDesign]

You guys were the first people I saw showing apple AR models in Vision Pro. It looks amazing!

[@oliverniehaus7159]

Phenomenal episode! The ED add was hilarious 😂

[@jeffhartter]

We need a special live Q&A episode where we can ask questions about the experiences. Because I don’t feel like a demo will answer my questions

[@JordanSKTorres]

WOW!! This was incredible to experience it with you guys! I'm so excited to see this amazing revolutionary product with my own eyes some day!!

[@samyueldanyo8679]

3:13 felt like a moment out of vanilla sky or the matrix or something. Thank you for sharing your genuine joy.

[@LuciodoBrazil]

Kudos for doing such a long episode. Really fun and informative.

[@CrizElMelodioso1]

Love this video was amazing guys viewers need to watch till the end its so worth it.