APSC is Not Dead? Tamron 17-70mm F2.8 | Initial Look

I share my initial impressions and thoughts on the new Tamron 17-70mm F2.8 for Sony E-Mount APSC.
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[@sneakergearz]

It is stabilized so great for the older 6000 series. Can you comment if it works at all on full frame?

[@that1cameraguy]

I guess I really am out of it. You’re right about the stabilization. I did put it on an a7siii for video, it’s bad in 4k. On another full frame you still get crazy vignette. Probably not a good option for full frame.

[@sneakergearz]

@@that1cameraguy wow, thank you for the info. I’m debating selling my 6600 and going for the A7C or simply getting this lens to bring up the quality on my APSC. I actually have mostly full frame lenses and use my A7R3 for client work. This kind of helps me move forward with just going full frame

[@TVe200]

Most Sony full frame cameras have an APS-C mode, and in auto it recognize that you are using an APS-C lens. Of course you loose a lot of mp. On a7iii you get 10 mp, on a7Riii you get 18 mp and on a7Rvi 26 mp.

[@sneakergearz]

@@TVe200 I totally get that. But based on most reviews, even though full frame and apsc glass is interchangeable. Both perform better on their original format. Even ones as sharp as a 55 zeiss is not as sharp as the 56 sigma on apsc even though it’s super sharp on full frame. This may work great on apsc but your losing some of that sharpness using it on a full frame even though it works. For my use case, I would be selling another APSC lens to get this one and spend about $300. Or I would sell both my APSC camera and lens and spend about $300 to get an A7C with my primary use is video and ease of use for my wife. Would love to keep my 6600 but I have mostly full frame lenses now anyway so it’s just that time for me to make a decision

[@TVe200]

@@sneakergearz That's probably right, at least Tony Northrup want us to believe that. I would not hesitate at all buying the Tamron 70-180 f/2.8 and use it om APS-C. Even if it is made for full frame it is the best tele zoom you can buy for APS-C. I own the 70-350 G because of the reach, its's like a 100-500 on APS-C.

[@wanderingyoana]

12:00 - the Tamron 17-70mm F2.8 DOES have VC which is stablization

[@phucmapvlog]

I don’t know why people are disliking this video, they must not like aps-c. I’ve been waiting for this lens for a while now!

[@Reinh4444]

They dislike it because there was a big mistake in it. The TAMRON is stabilized!

[@linux_38]

Cause no photo comparisons and the lens has VC which is stabilized!

[@IanHobday]

11:55 The Tamron does have stabilization which his another big plus over the Sony lens. I'm really looking forward to buying the 17-70!

[@HarriRomppainen]

Yes, APS-C is very much alive and kicking!

[@jirimates7769]

Man you was one of my favourite youtubers but why I do I have feelings from this video like APS-C is bothering you? You dont even read the spec of the lens...14 minutes long video about... nothing... Did someone forced you to make this video? Or ... bad day? Sorry but you disappointed me today...

[@kenny.bender]

I need this for my M50, will they come out with that mount eventually?

[@IanHobday]

Sony has licensed their mount and protocols to 3rd party lens makers like Sigma and Tamron but Canon and Nikon actively work against the 3rd party lens makers. This is why there are so many 3rd party lenses for Sony E but none for the new Canon and Nikon mounts. Sigma and Tamron will likely eventually make lenses for the new Canon and Nikon mounts but without official licensing they will not work as well on those mounts as they do on Sony E.

[@RealTechGeek]

Happy New Year! Welcome back! I was just checking your channel an hour ago and there you are a new upload!

[@luism.2050]

Thanks for the impromptu unboxing. I have had the 18-105, I was curious about the size comparison and how it looked & felt on the apsc body. I’m between this tamron 17-70 and the sigma 18-50… compactness versus stabilisation… tough choice. I’m trying to have a minimalist lens lineup to do it all: 11 f1.8 + 70-350 + tamron 17-70 or 11 f1.8 + 70-350 + sigma 18-50 I have a zve10, so i’m leaning tamron for the stabilisation… any thoughts?

[@MarlonKingShow]

We need more oss lenses for both crop and ff. This lens really has my eye as a a6400 user. Would love to see a 10-22 or 12-24 for crop with oss and 2.8

[@teun9093]

Thanks a lot for this video. And thanks for comparing it with the 16-70 f4. That's literally my current zoom lens. Can you show us some test footage?

[@AiGMedia246]

can you do a comparison between this and the king of aps-c lens the sony 18-105?

[@davect01]

As an A6400 user, I am very fascinated in this lens

[@timohoffmann1888]

Thanks. I would like to see a comparison between the tamron and the sigma 24-70 mm 2.8. Thank you

[@VampeD4]

i'm not trying to look stupid. but whats APSC. and what the Difference Between this lens and the one that comes with the @6000. ?

[@runtofun9595]

how was that mac mini performance? its great for video edit?

[@av6004]

Hi. I wish you would have reviewed the lens. I am personally considering to buy this lens but I am not sure yet about its image quality compared to the Sony 16-55 2.8. If you check on youtube there has not been a single thorough review yet in English on this lens. I think you missed a good opportunity to be the first person to offer a complete review. It could have brought a lot of attention to your channel.

[@valetdecour]

Glad to see you back !!!!

[@dracphelan]

I think APSC is still alive. Sony, Canon and others might want us to move to full frame, but there are still plenty of us out there. Look at what Fuji is doing with APSC. It is truly outstanding. I do think that Sony's APSC line needs a full refresh. They are using the same basic body design as they did almost 7 years ago. They also need to complete revamp the menus and make them touch focused.

[@IanHobday]

A body similar to the A7iii, a new BSI sensor, better IBIS, and the new menus would make Sony's APS-C unbeatable.

[@crisJnoni_9]

17-70 or 28-70siggma 2.8??

[@yusufvirmani1858]

I was kicking myself for buying the A6000 around 7 months ago as I couldn’t find a suitable glass with stabilisation built in but I believe this tamron has built in stabilisation so as i heard about this lens last week i was over the moon. I hope it’s as good as im excited about it and I really hope that it has very less chromatic aberration or non compared to their other lens as I’ve noticed alot of it on some of their other lenses.

[@leojphilip732]

Do you think the tamron 17-70 and the sony 70-350 for the sony a6000 would cover everything? I want a telephoto but need IBIS so options are limited.

[@avstars]

@@leojphilip732 yeah that focal range pretty much cover everything.

[@mirrorlessny]

@@leojphilip732 The Tamron is a good choice for sure, but what about Sony 10-18mm? It's a lot wider, lighter & more compact.

[@leojphilip732]

@@mirrorlessny I agree, but at this point in time I would prefer having a versatile lens instead of a super wide angle like the 10-18mm sony. But it could be the right choice if that's what you're looking for.

[@anmoldhamija6666]

Tamron 17-70 vs sony 18-105 🤔 is the extra cost worth 1 stop? Coz indoors I will have to use flash in both cases and for outdoors I will have to stop down to get everything in focus...let me know what you think ?

[@mirrorlessny]

1 stop will increase bokeh, but it's not a major move like going to 1.4, in your situation both will work great but 18-105 has noticeable reach advantage, also power zoom & internal zoom mechanism which is 1 thing that bothers me a lot about lenses - call it dust/moisture paranoia

[@anmoldhamija6666]

@@mirrorlessny but any idea about the difference in sharpness in both the lenses? Can't seem to find a video on this as of now

[@mirrorlessny]

@@anmoldhamija6666 that would be interesting to see, probably too early but eventually someone will do it

[@modeverything9949]

So I own full frame and apsc. Would it make more sense for me to just buy the full frame lenses to use all on both cameras?

[@avstars]

it makes more sense budget wise to buy FF lens if you have Sony for both FF and apsc. But hey, if you have money to burn, you can do whatever you want. Just make sure the focal lengths work for whatever you plan to use your APSC. And remember the 1.5x crop factor for apsc.

[@theodorechan8665]

FF lenses are going to be heavier / larger also if weight is a concern

[@user-jh1mq2ih2u]

Happy new year .... and thank you for the content.. also rumors of canon coming out with an APSC camera might make APSC relevant again

[@NimaRaya]

Is it a Full frame lens

[@that1cameraguy]

Sadly, no.

[@KrishnenduChowdhury]

hey what do you teach??

[@bloodindark]

someone said the stabilization is only for video? is it not enabled for photo?

[@setaside2]

It is enabled for photo and video. The AI effect is video only, however, which makes sense. It's more of a gimbal effect for run and gun situations. It's pretty amazing.

[@nickjohnson2938]

pls pls answer this, are they gonna make this more canon?

[@hritteshghosh8545]

Is a second hand lens good?

[@michaelchoosefood]

I've been looking forward to content about this lens. Been on my a6400 and still looking for a lens with image stabilization. Shoulda bought a 6600 but I'm hoping to see some comparisons to the sigma 25-70

[@kishincorp]

Why would aps-c be dead ? There are allot of Fuji users, Fuji only makes aps-c or medium cams.

[@thegeneral123]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say this was made in APSC as they are planning on making Fuji X glass. So I expect this lens will come out also for Fuji. I've not watched the video yet so it might have already been covered. I highly doubt they'd make this just for Sony APSC. It's not really a lens I'd buy as I already have the Fuji 18-55 and the Fuji red badge 16-55 F2.8. If it's cheap though and the stabilisation works on Fuji. Might make a nice replacement for my 18-55 which lacks weather sealing.

[@IMDABROWN]

Dude! Happy 2021

[@that1cameraguy]

Happy New Year

[@maereanm]

APS-C is not dead at all. A full-frame setup with a modern body with proper eye-AF and a wide prime lens and a f/2.8 zoom lens will set you back a lot more money. and it will weigh more.

[@rictar_rat]

i thought this might bring you back XD I am sticking with APS-C atm I have the Tamron 70-180 and really thinking of picking this up , and probably selling my 18-105 F4 since those 2 lenses would cover the range

[@pigmintfilm256]

We need the 4k60 to come to aps-c! Will it happen in 2021?

[@that1cameraguy]

I hope so

[@reylandjurado1542]

I hope Tamron will make full frame version🤞🏾.

[@DanielConstant00]

Hoping Tamron makes a telephoto for APSC now. Starting at 70mm to whatever while keeping it at 2.8 A 70-150 2.8 would be nice !

[@bobisadrummer]

They have a 70-180 2.8 and they make a 70-300 4.5-6.3

[@DanielConstant00]

@@bobisadrummer yea I know the 70-180 is full frame. Hoping a APSC version would be cheaper and the other one isn’t a 2.8 aperture

[@bobisadrummer]

@@DanielConstant00 I’m not sure an aps-c version of their 70-180 would be much cheaper than the FE version considering the 17-70 aps-c is only $80 cheaper than the 28-75 FE. It might be sub $1k but most likely over $800-900 still.

[@DanielConstant00]

@@bobisadrummer good point

[@EvanNakagawa]

I have the 16-55 and love it. However, I've been contemplating the switch the full-frame, so this 17-70 is definitely gonna hurt my resale value lol

[@mirrorlessny]

photography? which FF you thinking about?

[@abhishah1998]

Aspc isn't dead. I'm sure sony will be releasing 4k 60fps in the next line of aspc cameras

[@stevenj2380]

Skip Nikon upgrade for now? May get this Tam when it comes in later in JAN or FEB? Have hardly used my a6300. I can deal with trade in of SONY 55-210 and the 18-105 f/4 both so-so to me, toward cost of new TAMRON and keep the E mount SONY and SIgma primes I have. I am mostly on NIKON DX and FX lots of lenses .. so I did not buy a lens nor body in 2020. No video use. Just G.AS.-y fun. Happy New Year.

[@pit5000]

Manny Ortiz says there is CA at 70mm

[@carloenix]

I just got into apsc cameras very recently. I was wondering why a lot of youtubers talk about it not being dead? Am I missing something?

[@mr.foster1067]

techtubers kinda live in a bubble. APSC is very popular still

[@that1cameraguy]

I do it because there was an ongoing joke between me and Jason Vong about it I think 2-3 years ago. Sony didn’t release any new apsc lenses for a while, so there was this thought that apsc was a dead platform. However, that doesn’t seem to be the case. It’s a great platform.

[@mr.foster1067]

@@that1cameraguy hahahaa I understand more now thank you!!!!

[@carloenix]

@@that1cameraguy that makes sense. Glad to hear it then! :)

[@mirrorlessny]

@@mr.foster1067 yep & it will remain popular, I just hope next gen will get the new touch menus & active stabilization

[@mortenandersen6313]

This Tamron lense and the Sony 70-350mm is the perfect combo for All users of Sony aps-c without stabilisation as they both have stabilisation and cover 17-350mm range.

[@duanemcclun]

I would be interested in hearing what Tamron's thinking was by offering this lens? I would have to think about purchasing the lens because I have a Sigma 17-50 f2.8 and a older Tamron 17-50 f2.8 and it might not be worth it for me to get this lens for an extra 20mm focal length. (I might add I have the Tamron 18-400 f3.5 - 6.3) Happy New Year Duane

[@setaside2]

This lens is a fully upgraded design specifically for mirrorless cameras and is 100% Sony native, including the optical stabilization. No adapters, all new glass and modern coatings, modern AF motor, groundbreaking stabilization (especially in video) this lens will seriously outperform both the older DSLR Sigma and Tamron offerings.

[@Reinh4444]

Seems really strange to me to do a lens video being totally unprepared! ;-)) The whole photo world is fond of the stabilization of the Tamron and you tell us the only advantage of the Tamron against SONY 16-55 G was he price. **gg**

[@BoomingVisuals]

Now sony just need to make a apsc camera with Xt4 specs and better

[@DanKenj]

Compare this lens to the 18-105 F4 :D

[@TVe200]

Since I own both the 16-70 f/4 Z and the 16-55 f/2.8 G I will not buy this lens. Still I am glad that Tamron gave us this. Maybe they know that Sony would not kill APS-C yet. I don't care how cheap old Sony full frame bodies like an a7ii are. I own 7 APS-C lenses and to replace them will cost a lot and increase the weight og my backpack with almost 100%.

[@cgazlan]

Yeay tamron yeay

[@Taxiozaurus]

Sooooo... this is basically a 24-105 f4 equivalent lens... cool

[@DragonScorpio31]

"there's no smoke w/o a fire" - viltrox oso dropped 24 35 50 for E apsc.. a6800, a7000..? 🤔🤔😆😆

[@predrag1]

Ok listen....noone ever....EVER says that apsc is dead so I dont know why you people keep saying that. I have literally never in my life heard anyone say "apsc is dead". If anything it probably brings more money to the camera companies than full frame.

[@mirrorlessny]

agree, apsc is the foundation/bread&butter for Sony, I think a huge chunk of FF users come from apsc

[@pop1348]

I feel like you... Maybe It's too late for Sony aps-c...

[@abhishah1998]

This fun attitude is amazing! Too much drinking at New year's?

[@fjp2000]

What are you talkin about. The Tamron has stabelisation!!

[@coltonabate]

Like the hat

[@user-km9uo4ft8g]

The problem is that the price of an a6400 + this tamron is the equavalent of an a7iii with kit lens ! BIG PROBLEM

[@thehappyclam3942]

The kit lens makes it a unfair comparison, the A73 with the 28 to 75 would be a better comparison.

[@user-km9uo4ft8g]

@@thehappyclam3942 we talking about the same budget if we add tgec28-75 no point to compare

[@izayus11]

I'd rather invest in glass than body, thank you very much.

[@lkfxfotografiavideo177]

A7 II is not even an option in 2021, AF is slower than the a6000, same batteries as the APSC bodies,only one card slot, so to do the actual jump to full frame you're looking at at least $1700-1800 for the a7 iii, then most ff decent lenses are $500+ / not that easy to say: APSC dead - I'm investing $2500+ in a camera and lens just to start with 🙄 👎

[@Reinh4444]

+1

[@pkhatri911]

Who cares lens, I need your's alpha cap 😀

[@that1cameraguy]

Lol

[@bratcSK]

I'd totally buy this lens if I didn't have Sony 16-55/2.8. Tamron is cheaper and has bigger reach(70 instead of 55) and since both Sony and Tamron are not stabilized lenses it makes Tamron is obvious choice

[@Reinh4444]

Tamron IS stabilized!

[@sudeepbanerjee2195]

Waiting for first Review of that lens in English. But you wasted my 15min.

[@the_anxiousphotographer]

If you're to good to care about the lens then you have no means to review it. Some people don't have the luxury to be picky with lenses. We take what we can afford. I believe you're a lens snob good sir.

[@frankfeng2701]

I think that many viewers of this video might have already switched to full frame.

[@Reinh4444]

So why should they watch this video??

[@user-km9uo4ft8g]

15minutes but still no information , so unprofessional

[@vukhuat4251]

What a stupid click-bait for a lens review video.