ARC Raiders REALLY Surprised Me (Hands-On Impressions)

[@Moxsy]

DUDE I was soo excited for this as a Looter Shooter. Was so sad to hear its changed from the original vision to an extraction shooter. I am sure it'll be great for some but damn.

[@RandomActsOfGaming]

Same was so excited for this.

[@thedonovan]

Since it's an extraction game it will also be full of hackers like literally every other extraction game which is why most of them are struggling to stay alive.

[@Trigger200284]

I have no doubt that they ruined it for some kind of monetization system fueled by the fear of other competitive players.

[@HoldinContempt]

when I hear the word "extraction" my wallet immediately slams shut

[@dogwithdabutter4]

I was excited for the PvE style game too, but ultimately, I think they made the right call with adding the PvP. PvE really does get old after a while and PvP makes it a lot more interesting. Plus it's not like they abandoned much of the original concept anyway, the worlds and robots and everything like that are all still the same. Plus contrary to popular belief, there really hasn't ever been a super good, quality extraction game like this. ARC Raiders is directly competing with Bungie's Marathon more than anything else, so i'm excited to see how that plays out.

[@Zagor24]

Yeah they lost me with the shift in direction. I think a looter shooter would've been a bigger market for them, plus it could still have a pvp mode of some sort on the side.

[@semmert]

I'm hoping they add a PVE only mode. PVPVE extraction shooters are inevitably ruined by toxic people and cheaters. Hard pass because of the community alone.

[@kris342922]

Im right there with ya, i was REALLY excited for the looter shooter pve part only. Not caring much for the pvp aspect of it. I would have much rather it been a pvp mode on its own.

[@palmsun]

The beta felt super wokey weird from design too... idk wasnt for me, but hope people enjoy it.

[@Ashenwolf888]

@@semmert 1 billion% agreed. TBH any shooters that competitive these days is ruined because that. I haven't played a pvp shooter in years because of cheater, the worst toxic people there are and even worse toxic communties.

[@purposly]

They just genuinely expect that PvE players will stick around to be fodder for the PvP players. It's an insane expectation on their part to completely abandon their core audience in favor of streamers that will leave the game after a month because their queue times are too long and there aren't any fodder to kill.

[@spice2688]

I was very disappointed in the change in direction from looter shooter to extraction shooter. I feel like the market is so saturated with this type of game lately. Personally I am sick of extraction shooters and battle royales. I admit I am not a fan of these genres, but it really sucks in particular as someone who enjoys looter shooters a lot. At the moment your only "real" options for a looter shooter is between Warframe and Destiny. I would have loved to see a really polished AAA take on this genre, especially seeing how cool the art direction is for this game. I'd like to clarify too is that I am not necessarily against more extraction shooters. It's true there hasn't been another large success like Tarkov, and for the fans of this genre I would like to see more real quality games. However, I do feel like recently we have seen a ton of new extraction shooters that fall flat, while we have seen almost no competition of quality for the mainstays of the looter shooter genre. For me, between Bungie making Marathon an extraction shooter, and now Arc Raiders switching directions, it's just disappointing.

[@XY-Phoenix]

The problem here is that the extraction shooter genre has never arrived in the console market currently. Because all extraction shooter games were PC only

[@lucid.420]

Can you tell me the difference between looter shooter and extraction shooter? Is it literally just in one you have to Extract where as the other you don't?

[@McMintyMP]

Oh yeah looter shooter market isn't over saturated at all. How many extraction shooters are out there? Like 2 worth playing?

[@McMintyMP]

​@lucid.420 one is just PVE with nothing to lose on death. The other usually includes PVP with punishment for dying and a requirement to reach a certain location alive in order to reap your rewards.

[@Sektoriiiii]

mfer telling us with a straight face that looter shooters are not saturated genre yet extraction games (which you probably cant name more than 10 good ones) are, bruh

[@Adalore]

I do think devs really over estimate how friendly people can be in games like this. If time to kill is fast, the work needed to enable social interaction is very hard.

[@stephencoppedge8001]

I think every single game should have proxy chat, no exceptions, that shit doubles my enjoyment in a game. There's a few games i play just because of good proxy chat

[@purposly]

They want people to be friendly, but then they remove the PvE mode that was incredibly popular in the early tests in favor of what we are going to get now. That will only garner hostility and toxicity amongst the player base as more find out what was taken from them and what the game could have been

[@dogwithdabutter4]

@@stephencoppedge8001 good thing ARC Raiders has prox chat then! I can definitely confirm that it's easy to make friends and team if you're in prox chat as well. And especially if they add bigger raids and bosses down the line, teaming up with other players might be essential to taking them down. I'm excited to see where they take it. remember that this is a tech test and the content was pretty limited.

[@jaredmatos9594]

The TTK in these games is always low. Most times I died in the test was to a shotgun in one shot. Thought a third person extraction would have a higher TTK

[@Myhok]

@@stephencoppedge8001 Because you can play with yourself, hearing them getting mad by destroying their fun ?

[@Nomanspie]

The fact that it now has a pvp and extraction element, will mean a lot of the destiny, warframe, division and other looter pve gamers won't go within 100 yards of Arc Raiders. Looter players tend to be the kind of people who stick around to collect all the gear... While extraction and pvp players will go back to their preferred game within the first week... Quicker if the combat feel isn't perfect.

[@TheApostate-d3v]

100%, I am no longer interested in the game because they went PVP

[@purposly]

It's not that it has a PvP extraction element, it's that they've completely dropped the idea and concept entirely of that massive pve co-op looter shooter they advertised in the reveal trailer. The trailer that got so many excited. Those first tests were incredible but they had a massive outcry from very specific PvP players/streamers that wanted to PvP in a PvE game. It's astounding that the devs even listened to their concerns and scrapped their entire game to please such a minority. They just assumed the PvE players would stick around to be fodder

[@sanokillzone]

Not to mention now that it's pvp it's going to have a hacker/cheating issues.

[@jasonvideos6658]

same thing goes the other way. a bunch more players will find interest because they added pvp. I'm sorry you lost interest, that sucks. but personally it makes me alot more excited

[@RevRyukin7]

Good. Those games are fucking garbage dog shit Chinazi trash. I dont want no bad taste, spyware installing morons playing with me when I que up.

[@romuluscreative]

The game looks amazing to me but I was 100% excited to play this game as a looter shooter and now im just like meh.. another extract game with short gameplay loops where Ill just get bored.

[@Spyalarm]

Same, game changed a lot

[@dogwithdabutter4]

i personally would have gotten way more bored with the older version of the game... way less replayability with PvE only

[@RevRyukin7]

Wdym "another"? There's like no good ones except Hunt and this will be completely different, so .... ???? Also looter shooters are boring as FUCK, so wtf are you yappin bout.

[@nomorecakes]

@@dogwithdabutter4 Yea until the PvP replayability gets stale after the first week of "TRY THIS AMAZINGLY OP ARC RAIDERS BUILD!!!" youtube videos followed by 6 months of a stale meta with the same 3 things being in every game. Really weird that PvP players say that PvP is what makes something exciting, then 1 week after any PvP game is released the community becomes a toxic shit house of players calling for nerfs to everything in the entire game and saying the devs are killing the game.

[@romuluscreative]

@@RevRyukin7 Maybe you dont play many games then If you think ARC and Hunt are the only extract games... So what are you "Yappin Bout" ?

[@tdank76]

What a bummer this looked like it could have been an amazing, The Division, replacement, until PvP was made mandatory. The pivot in game loop is such a shame. Good vid thanks.

[@ShockFactor7]

I was hyped when it was a looter shooter, now an extraction shooter?? Nope nope and nope. Graphics look good tho.

[@deenman23]

if they had a singleplayer version it would be fine,but forced pvp for anything that isnt call of duty or mobas is usualy DOA

[@p4l4d1n7]

Agreed, I guess it means their story was garbage and had to use this to cover it up.

[@CadizHexus]

@@deenman23 hmm. Roblox has games called Bloxfruit(300-400k players today) and Deepwoken(10-30k today). These games are 5-6 years old on a platform directed at younger children. If these forced pvp games, one of which is full loot-permadeath, can hold higher player counts than "AAAA" $70 titles, the only problem with forced pvp games is accessibility & awareness. The problem: Weaklings

[@LOKNES1]

Same. Looter shooter, with these visuals, I would have been all for it. Extraction shooter, no thx. Great vid and info. 👍🏾

[@MuShinnen]

​@@CadizHexus This is the goofiest take. Roblox is the biggest game with the largest audience so by default it will have more players. The minute you take it away from a multi billion dollar company, and throw in the inevitable cheating, and money grubbing your argument dies. There have been plenty of mechanically good extraction shooters that failed because people simply do not want them. The problem: comparing a sub game in Roblox to a stand alone title doesn't hold water.

[@n4k3d51]

No looter shooter anymore? I am out

[@Scarecr0wn]

I love absolutely everything they showed about this game so far. Coop shooters and looter shooters are out there, a lot of them and new are coming all the time. Extraction genre is still young and unexplored with tons of potential to innovate. So I am glad for the change.

[@csierrapr]

PVPVE.... Division 2 got it right with a PVE map and PVP Dark Zones... So this being an extraction, Im moving on to the next game... Thanks for the info!

[@TheMortemGaming]

Oh I know you’re gonna buy it

[@exequielcatalani]

same here. moving on to the next

[@faridronin]

About time division 3 shows up

[@exequielcatalani]

@@faridronin we need a new division

[@Jacksonmontyart]

Extraction shooters tend to only draw people in who can handle the learning curve and punishment. Upside and downside to them

[@kbdc]

i was super excited for this game until the genre change. third person "destiny" is pretty much how i saw this game and it looked like it had so much potential with dungeon and raid like content.

[@Diegomir7]

same here mate...

[@Raggyvil]

I liked the original idea. And it's a shame because the game looks pretty neat, but I just can't bother with the extraction games. I just can't. There's been too many, I've played too many for too long. No particular reason to play this over anything else.

[@feddora5776]

Too many... Name 7

[@ChrisS30097]

@@feddora5776 I think people confuse them with battle royale games

[@jalonus]

​@@ChrisS30097 that's what I'm thinking because there's maybe like 4 people can name

[@HelghastSniper]

​@@feddora5776MW DMZ, Delta Force, BF2042 Extraction mode, Tarkov, R6 extraction, Forever Winter, Lost Light, Dark n Darker, Hunt Showdown and probably many more I don't know or forgot about. Re...diculous.

[@ChrisS30097]

most of the games you mentioned are either dead, barebones or have some major issue like cheaters or unbalanced gameplay, Delta Force is not even out btw, at least with these devs they have a great track record with The Finals so it makes sense to be hyped

[@cmdr_thrudd]

It's a shame. While the game looks cool that pivot to an extraction shooter killed my hype for the game. Had been pretty excited for it previously. I hope it's still fun though for folks that like that style of game.

[@pharaohdagr8712]

Will be passing on this game. Was looking forward to the looter shooter feature, but now it is just another pvpve game

[@salvation7362]

I spent over 1000 hours in The Division 2 with zero of that in the Dark Zones. After being bullied in D1 constantly by teams of 5 doing their rounds and disliking a solo player disrupting the respawns I decided that extraction shooters aren't for me. People are jerks, I play all games solo because it only takes one person to ruin a game for dozens of others. Another game to de-wishlist.

[@bil4630]

you sound lonley

[@vjthemad4852]

Can't they see the success of Helldiver 2? people are eager for co-op pve shooter games

[@torthepro7660]

there currently isnt enough content in arc raiders for the game to become helldivers, and that genre is already filled by hell divers.

[@MrObvious125]

Go play helldivers, pve is gay

[@Blade-ix8hr]

@@MrObvious125 ONG go play hell divers space troopers forever winter fuck off with PvE so boring

[@LoveJattt]

@@MrObvious125loser

[@wetnoodleman]

if I'm being honest I would be more excited for the game if it was a looter shooter but I still might give it a shot if everything is still good on release

[@qpsyche9115]

The fact that it's a PvPvE is really killing my boner tbh. Why can't it be a pvp or pve

[@lucid.420]

@@qpsyche9115 PvPvE is a choice. It's PVE but also PVP.

[@ChoJun69]

​@@lucid.420 its pvevp because you play in one big map with bot NPC enemies and then player enemies. I highly doubt it will have separate servers/channels or w.e. just for pve.

[@ForceGamingYT]

@@ChoJun69 Correct, its not a choice really. If you engage in PvE (shooting the robots) PvP will shortly follow. Anytime we had extend fights against bots, other players would show up almost immediately.

[@gambitdevs1234]

@@ForceGamingYT I didnt have this experience, in fact I couldnt find gunfights half the time. I was usually solo so maybe that has to do with it but I could usually fight the robots without getting in a gunfight

[@therealharshlycritical]

"its no longer a looter shooter" well im no longer interested

[@micheljolicoeur6094]

RIP Arc Raiders, not interested in PVP extraction games. Good luck but not for me.

[@nicrox2000]

@@micheljolicoeur6094 your loss. It's going to be one heck of a game.

[@yuhyuhitsyaboi5460]

I’d preferred it stayed pve and was helldivers-esk. This is just someone who is becoming more casual because I’m getting older lol

[@spakentruth]

Also really tired of rubberbanding, desync, and at worst cheating especially if the netcode infrastructure/anticheat isn't capable enough.

[@vkhaotikv3647]

ya im out, im over extraction i was really excited for this to be a looter shooter

[@hersh511]

There aren't even that many extraction shooters

[@HexYan]

@@hersh511 Yup. No idea why people are that dramatic. And not a lot of them are even high quality. Just complaining about nothing.

[@TheAutumnNetwork]

Same, I only wanted something similar to Helldivers but they went the wrong direction and this game is gonna be a big meh.

[@Nomanspie]

​@@HexYan saying "I'm out" isn't dramatic... It's just a statement of how the game shifting has changed people's hype level. If he said "ooooh noooo, what a disaster! My life is over, I'll never be the same again!" that would be dramatic.

[@semmert]

@@hersh511 Ok dude. There are loads. you just don't notice because they die. Because the player base isn't large enough for them to survive.

[@MsToshi1990]

You lost me at the change from Looter shooter to PvPvE :(

[@MurdocNiccolas]

The game is inspired by Tales from the loop, Embark is Swedish, and so is the artists for Tales from the loop The game setting has changed a lot, but it still got some of that old school northern/eastern European look to it Though wish we got more forests and less pvp

[@NiNjAcAt5677]

"PVPVE extraction shooter" *Aight imma head out

[@criticalmagic1896]

same

[@shallot4991]

Weak mindsets 🛌

[@dogwithdabutter4]

This one is actually good this time i swear

[@tanakathecowboy]

worst trend in gaming in history of gaming. Even BRs were better, smh.

[@shallot4991]

@@tanakathecowboy nice opinion

[@aBadWizard]

I'm really hype for this to drop on Xbox. We don't have many good extraction shooters on console, so I'm ready for another GOOD one!

[@chitin122]

This is the kind of change no one was asking for, now we are going to have to watch the servers close down in a year because of lack of players and an excess of cheating.

[@semmert]

100%. I hope they give a PVE option at some point. Tarkov finally listened. Maybe they will also. Toxic people and cheaters will fight with you youtube when you display your disinterest, but then turn around and kill a game, then move on to the next one. Like a locust.

[@xPetyr]

I asked for it

[@dogwithdabutter4]

I didn't ask for it but I appreciated it anyway.

[@skybox5912]

I’m fine with it having pvp in it but I know some aren’t

[@alfiebarboza]

Stakeholders asked surely. No way to monetize and season pass a coop game

[@i_am_geopi]

I will be taking this off my wishlist. There are enough extraction shooters and battle royale games but not enough good looter shooters. Sad news.

[@Grafenfoto]

I did that when they changed the game from pve to pvpve. No need for another BR and extraction shooter

[@humancalories6949]

Uh, cool?

[@craig3208]

There are enough lootee shooters as well, and they are boring as fuck 😂😂😂

[@ducky449]

Agreed I was so hyped bout this game when it was originally announced as a looter shooter, once it became a extraction shooter, I lost all interest. Only checked out this video HOPING maybe they decided to go back to looter shooter and I missed the news...

[@brisvanhal9969]

Bro atleast try it. It’s free. It’s important to be open minded since most games nowadays suck

[@levelbasegaming5740]

The Playtest was FLAWLESS!!! Big KUDOS to EMBARK for how polished this game is. I would still like to see the LOOTER SHOOTER version of this game. Who know, maybe they can add that portion later on. it's nice to dream.

[@fazilmohamed2507]

Could you explain what's looter vs extraction?

[@levelbasegaming5740]

​@@fazilmohamed2507In looter shooters, you collect procedurally generated weapons and equipment. In extraction shooters, you gather resources like money, weapons, and equipment, but with a critical difference: if you die, you lose all the gear and resources you've collected.

[@TacMagical]

lighting being sick was the first thing i noticed about this game

[@trevoroliveira2588]

Not gonna lie what you said about engaging with PvE more than 30 seconds would result in players showing up kills this game for me. I feel like Embark fucked around and found out in terms of converting this from a PvE game to a PvPvE game and I anticipate it will negatively impact its popularity.

[@lebiglebowskii9864]

Its so bad you'd have just barely survived the most epic robot/machine battle and some full equipped dude would be waiting around the corner to use everything in his arsenal on you instead of helping you -- which should have been the premise of the game -- helping each other. Now its looting each other

[@Jacksonmontyart]

I’m excited for this, love extraction shooters that you can have a bit of fun in. Hunt is amazing, really don’t think the market is filled with good extraction shooters, just bad ones. Maybe there will be an optional pve only mode

[@BillyST89]

To this day, my favourite looter shooter extraction game mode was from the division one DLC. I can’t remember the name of it, but it was so ahead of its time.

[@leonardonegrini7339]

Dark zone ?

[@ForceGamingYT]

Division Survival Mode, it was so good. Was actually one of the earliest iterations of Battle Royale, but Ubi dropped the ball IMHO in locking it behind a paid DLC. Could have been much bigger.

[@vidgod3932]

@@ForceGamingYT It was so good.

[@milezeroe]

​@@ForceGamingYTDropping the ball seems to be a common phrase among recent Ubisoft games. (Released and unreleased)

[@BillyST89]

@@ForceGamingYT that’s the one! It was so good! Locking it behind a pay wall did suck. I hope to see a Division III one day, I really enjoyed playing through the first and second one.

[@Caspeaon]

It’s Embark. They made the finals. Which if you don’t like FPS games fine, but it’s arguably the best FPS out right now, that game is PHENOMENAL. They know how to make good stuff, and they’ve been consistent with updates and additions to the game. I have complete faith in them to make arc raiders a great game as well.

[@Heroickittens]

You lost me at extraction shooter

[@dogwithdabutter4]

why? just curious.

[@Heroickittens]

@@dogwithdabutter4 I cant really describe it but the whole idea of trying to get in and then get out with loot gives me this rushed feeling. If im playing a pvp game where i can loot I dont want to feel this pressure in the back of my head to go "Okay I need to get some stuff and get out" it just makes me feel like I need to rush and leave the game/mission.

[@themaliciousone666]

@@Heroickittens not only that but it is actually heartbreaking to get cheaters that one tap you through the wall - because there is economic damage. you lose all your shit. and in EVERY PvP game there are cheaters (it does not matter how good the anticheat system is).

[@justinkent6007]

Huge extraction shooter fan. I have been waiting for a good Extraction shooter to hit console.

[@Trymeplays]

Same, Vigor was good to me for a few years.

[@rodrigos7070]

I reall trust embark. They are doing a fantastic job with the finals.

[@tjbullis1491]

exactly, to this day they still support the hell out of the finals

[@anubisfox5765]

I wish so bad theyd just add some basic game modes 😂 team deathmatch or point control type stuff would be so good. Ive been bored of what they have forever and the one patrol type mode is alright but i just needed more from it i guess

[@candiceman1]

Disagree. I’ve played over 1200 hours in The Finals and Embark after a year has failed to solve the basic problems of the game like anticheat, matchmaking and weapon balance.

[@rodrigos7070]

@@candiceman1 A little crazy to play over 1200 hours of something you don't enjoy

[@candiceman1]

@@rodrigos7070 I enjoyed the game until the lobby filled up with aimbots. Embark did a terrible job with neverending so called balancing.

[@GamingBanddiitt]

I have been observing this game for a year now and it struck me as a cross between Vigor + Starfield. I still think thats accurate. Vigor you can be the same way, you get in and 5 min later youre headed to the exit 😅

[@Trymeplays]

I hope there is some level of "base building" that Vigor has.

[@GamingBanddiitt]

@Trymeplays og players maxed out their shelters long ago and they beg for updates. Only time will tell

[@Trymeplays]

@@GamingBanddiitt well I'm saying I hope that Arc Raiders has something similar because if not I'll become a hunter killer of people and that to me was (at a point) where Vigor was years later that just didn't feel fun anymore.

[@theclickbaitdetective9196]

once you said they made the finals, I definitely feel a bit better that arc will be good. The finals destruction system was excellent! shame they didn't add any of those mechanics into this

[@shallot4991]

That sounds like it’d have been super tough to do lol

[@theclickbaitdetective9196]

@ yea i’m sure it would, it wouldn’t have to be as destructive as the finals though.

[@lebiglebowskii9864]

No destruction just lame pvp -- like zero destruction

[@shallot4991]

@@lebiglebowskii9864 cod better obviously

[@Preventmm]

This game looks like a cinematic masterpiece just like how bf1 looked

[@gcaviner]

I was a long time Destiny 2 player, and when this game was announced I thought "that's the game I'll quit Destiny for." Everything clicks for me in terms of vibes, the art style, the setting, you name it. Their announcement trailer got me more hyped than any other trailer I have ever seen (I'm not saying the game is the best, it just clicked the most for me, from the beginning). I cannot begin to explain how bad they messed up changing this to an extraction shooter. There is such a massive hole in the looter shooter market that one game isn't being able to fill, that they should've taken their shot into filling that spot. I know for a fact most Destiny players would at least have tried this game, and I bet that a good chunk of the Division players would have too. Now I only see this game being as successful as The Finals, which is not bad, but nothing amazing either in terms of player base. In fact, it might even divide their player base slightly as The Finals mains might get into Arc Raiders. On top of all of this, it is now going around (confirmed?) that the game will be $40 instead of free, which is another reason why it won't be more successful than The Finals. It this was a PVE looter shooter, with a PVP mode, and it came out at $40, hell, even $60, I would be buying it. Now I don't think I'll buy it even on sale, truly depressing.

[@PinguinFlesh]

Gonna try it out anyway. As a looter shooter it had to compete with Warframe but now it has to compete with Hunt Showdown (for me at least). Two of my favorite games. I hope it turns out amazing, more good games for us

[@MamboB]

I played the Alpha after they changed it to extraction, all pvp was camping the extraction spots, which made it suck experience for me, they should have kept the pve as pve, maybe areas of pvp, like darkzones, but now it makes me rage with how players play.

[@Spyalarm]

This, played 4 matches and it was the same everytime. 5th match we camped the extraction. Uninstalled the game after that

[@dogwithdabutter4]

skill issue. didn't have that experience at all. maybe once in my 30 hours was someone blatantly camping the extraction point. otherwise you can't just call every PvP encounter "camping"

[@humancalories6949]

@@dogwithdabutter4 Honestly

[@MuShinnen]

​@@dogwithdabutter4"I didn't have this experience, so it's a skill issue" anything after that in your response should immediately be ignored. You not having that experience means nothing when that's a problem in a lot of extraction shooters as it is. There's a reason these kinds of games continue to die off.

[@cole5953]

​@dogwithdabutter4 Camping extraction spots is part of extraction games. "Skill issue it didn't happen to me" yes it did you lying retard, hell I bet YOU were a camper at one. Have you even played an extraction shooter before? Only reason someone wouldn't be at extraction ready to get picks is because everyone is dead. Lying idiot 😂

[@nuclear_panda86]

The change of direction will kill this. This is now just Vigor with good sound design.

[@Zood94]

PvEvP Extraction Shoote... uggghh brother... The first trailers back in 2021 look a lot of fun chaotic looter shooter action. I am out.

[@teagan5494]

I don’t get it, how do people know that this will be lacking the massive robot enemies and swarms? Just because they added player v player action and extracting the game has now ‘forgotten all its roots’ and is nothing like it was before? No. I just don’t think so. But we will see won’t we

[@jeffsantos93]

It having PVP the only issue is cheating. Cheating is too strong nowadays on shooters, haven't played any shooters online in a while because of that. It's just not fun, and if gigantic companies can't deal with it I doubt smaller companies can. Am I wrong? Maybe I've been missing out, are bigger games targeted more or are all shooters doomed right now with cheaters?

[@pierre6986]

I have 200 hours in the finals and barely met any. Idk how they do it but embark are doing something right with their anticheat

[@testval]

idk what games u play but i never experience cheaters in all games except ironically CS2 which is one of the biggest shooters. but other than that i've had no issues.

[@Aanton7192]

this game is not f2p so i guess there wont be that many cheaters.

[@user-ne9sd4ow1o]

The last FPS I bought was BattleBit. I never ran into cheaters. Hit reg and servers were the best I've ever felt. 3 devs made that game 😂

[@unityman3133]

@@pierre6986 do a google search and see how many cheats there are. Most people soft aimlock now anyway

[@devonjuvinall5409]

The Arc's don't have walk cycles, they all have procedural animations with the use of AI... you are actually fighting robots with "thoughts" of their own, strategizing, balancing it's self, attacking etc. Truly amazing in my eyes. THE FINALS, fully destructible environments; Arc Raiders, fully destructible robots.

[@thetankgarage]

Couldn't start it since I use AHK. Only game since Black Desert that didn't allow it. So skipped it. If that's the level of your "anti-cheat", I'm completely out since all it shows is how very little you actually understand about anti-cheat. If kernel level anti-cheats can allow AHK but you can't... you don't actually have the capability to have any level of anti-cheat., all you can do is pretend which banning AHK is the equivalent of. Which means the game will have more cheaters than any game since ARMA DayZ mod.

[@oneschwiftyrick]

We shall see. It punched me in the gut hearing the change, since i haven't enjoyed any extraction games yet. I hope this will be the first.

[@danelsonx]

My friend and I jumped in on the play test and had a blast! We'll be playing for sure when it goes live for everyone.

[@TheLucy6245]

Adding in "Trader Runs" was so genius! Can't wait for this game!

[@captainklabuster2814]

I played it (and other new extraction shooters) during the play test. There is something I can say about almost every single extraction shooter: 1. Add a PVE-ONLY mode. 2. Add a PVPVE-SOLO mode. 3. Add exciting quests connected to the lore of the world (like in this case e.g. hacking/sabotage missions against the AI) and not only let me gather toilet paper and ammo while fighting to survive and start over again. 4. Add mechanics to get rid of spawn and exfil camping by toxic players. Like let them shoot once and then force them to change postition by exposing them (not exactly but approximately). Or let birds land near them and let them take off and make noise when the players move or shoot. Or let AI bots discover them if they stay too long in one postition in a sniper spot (not too near the exfil). I can imagine that this possibly is not that easy, but to keep the game crouded one must do something against the frustration of us players. In particular those who have a normal life and not that much spare time.

[@jiinzo2697]

1. no. 2. no. 3. yes. 4. yes.

[@olwiz]

@@jiinzo2697 Why the nos? Why MODES you can not queue to would be bad? I dont get why people have 'opnions' like this

[@captainklabuster2814]

@@jiinzo2697 why the nos? You wouldn’t be forced to play solo or pve. Those modes would just be an addition for a lot of other players.

[@jiinzo2697]

@@captainklabuster2814 it will seperate the community and the game will probably die like every game that does that.

[@fixo5132]

@@jiinzo2697 Solo mode is mandatory imo... As a solo player extraction shooters are just not for you.

[@ronniejones3910]

I understand why a lot of people dislike PvPvE extraction shooters, however I also get why the developers are going this route. Imo an extraction shooter is able to retain players a lot better than just a PvE looter shooter. Every match will be different and new because you never know where/if you will encounter other players trying to kill you/steal your loot. This circumstance alone makes such games WAY more exciting to play. Especially in the long run. I personally welcome this change, looking at how insanely popular games like Tarkov are, I think Arc Raiders might be a little less sweaty, solid sci-fi 3rd person alternative.

[@alfiebarboza]

LoL people still playing destiny and division

[@yellowcake404]

Wow another extraction shooter so innovative

[@maxtugger1859]

After seeing how well made The Finals is, I’m quite excited by this game, it looks amazing so here’s hoping it goes well.

[@RemixedYoshi]

Not every shooting game has to be competitive... or a extraction shooter would of liked it staying a pve looter shooter like the division then later on add a pvp mode or extraction mode as a separate thing.

[@dogwithdabutter4]

this game is certainly not competitive (in the sense that you're using that word). Also, i don't get your implication that "every shooting game has to be an extraction shooter." can you name me a single successful extraction game out right now other than hunt and tarkov, which are two opposite ends of the extremes in the genre?

[@RemixedYoshi]

@dogwithdabutter4 im saying a lot of games are still following trends its getting oddly bland... but yes I played arc raiders beta it seems fine and looks great but I just wish it stayed with the looter shooter. Sooner or later like how concord wanted to be a hero shooter and died quick then again a there was a lot of reasons it died. I suspect might be the same for every game wanting to be a battle royal or extraction shooter...

[@nicrox2000]

@@RemixedYoshi they can add a pve mode later. Lol

[@Proxima_VN]

As soon as he said it's the same devs as The Finals I got real excited, they know how to make a solid game

[@smoothlyrough512]

Just trying to ride whats popular, NEXT

[@nicrox2000]

@@smoothlyrough512 you're what's wrong with gaming.

[@Spidder81]

Really wish they would have stuck with the original concept, as soon as they said PVPVE Extraction shooter it was straight off my wishlist

[@MILSPECMOM]

:( Passing on this one if it's not a looter-shooter anymore. Thanks for the intel. o7

[@Speakeasy2001]

I had a bunch of friendly interactions with players during the play test, at one point I was with a group of 5 or 6 people running around doing PvE. There is VOIP so a lot of potential for fun situations like this

[@BigBender2011]

That's usually the "Beta/Playtest Effect" while everyone is new, doesn't know much and the Community is smaller. Happened in almost every MMORPG Beta I played, the Players then where friendly and cooperated a lot, with more Players and more Knowledge the rift between Players get's bigger and more "bad actors" getting in so the mood sadly changes slowly.

[@rickaspentv]

Nooo! not another extraction/Battle royale game.. A looter shooter with progression would be so sweet right about now. Really want a mmoLite game atm.. Gues i have the Dune mmo soon but this looks so scool and the dune MMO im not to sure about.

[@shallot4991]

Not a battle royale but indeed an extraction game, fair if people can’t handle the stress but it’s certainly fun if you can handle and learn from deaths

[@rickaspentv]

@@shallot4991 Yeah but im just so bored of the system. Played DayZ, H1Z1, PUBG, Fortnite and then quit and really dont want another one. I tried a game or two of other games that had this as a bonus feature aswell and im just not interested in another one. But i hope it finds an audience and everything cant be for me.. Just really liked the look and feel of the game.

[@dogwithdabutter4]

@@rickaspentv extraction games and BRs are not comparable in the slightest. They are completely different. If you don't like BRs, that doesn't mean you'll dislike extraction games, and vice versa. You may still love ARC Raiders if you like the look and feel of the game. Stick around if you're open minded, but if you know you're gonna hate it no matter what, then just move on instead of ruining the experience of many who might love it :)

[@rickaspentv]

@@dogwithdabutter4 They are not completely different in my opinion. Either way im sick of them both. darkest dungeon and so on.. Feel like we have seen so many and so many arena/BR games lately. And i dont think i ruin anyonce experience by posting my thoughts on the game now on this video..

[@torthepro7660]

@@rickaspentv Ive played h1z1, pubg, fortnite, apex, and i dont like any of those games, but i do like tarkov, the cycle, arena breakout kinda, and newly arc raiders, they are different, by alot, there is progression in these games, not in battle royales except experience, this game also isnt free to play, and there wasnt any cheaters in the test here, which was nice, the game feels good, ofcourse im sick aswell that so many games are jumping on the extraction shooter genre, but to say its not fed on a platter to players like myself, is false.

[@gamersthumbs4673]

I was really excited for this game at one point.. In games like this PvP always dominates the PvE side of things.. Im good, I'll watch others play it on release to see if it peeks my interest.. Thanks for the info broskie.

[@iROHxo]

This is my most anticipated game of the year

[@exaeon]

Me too, not only because it looks cool, but because the company who made it made The Finals and they are just amazing... high hopes indeed.

[@iROHxo]

@@exaeon Yes the finals is super smooth and skins also are epic, this game will be epic.

[@jake152]

Same! The Finals is so good, and I've been waiting for a good extraction game with this cool setting

[@sparten6]

For me too. Looks really good so far

[@zaran6570]

Really hyped by this game. Especially because Embark studio delivered an incredibly refreshing FPS with The Finals prior

[@NewHeathen]

Sad times its PvP I am unfortunately now out 😞

[@shallot4991]

Fair, helldivers 2 is more for you

[@talixius]

Don't be afraid, we won't spank you too hard.

[@erjikkzon]

Thank god. Go play easydivers2

[@ShaddyzZz]

There are single player games for people like you.

[@Ed_Kass]

Me too...

[@nicrox2000]

Im so excited for this game now since they made the switch to extraction. The reason being is the end result will be an extremely unique game, it will be a fun extraction game but will be very unique overall. On the other hand would have been a rather run-of-the-mill looter shooter.

[@EatMyVlogs]

I was ADDICTED to this on the weekend it was live, I was sad to not be able to play it when the test ended. I still yearn for its return. I know some wanted a looter shooter and I get that, I myself am a 10 year Destiny player and with Bungie also going in the direction of extraction shooters with Marathon, everyone is looking for that next long term looter shooter to call home. If extraction shooters aren't your thing fair enough, my opinion wont sway you BUT if you're on the fence about it, want to see what its like first or you do like extraction shooters this truly has a lot of potential. If you played the cycle think similar to that in its world and traders/quests but also throw in the feel of helldivers with a lil splash of murderous robots and even that wouldn't quite cover how good it feels to play. Also the news that it will no longer be a f2p title and will instead be a box price of I think $35 gives me a lot more confidence that it can deliver on being a great alternative to Tarkov. Cant wait for this to fully release I will buy and play the hell out of it.

[@shanus11]

hyped about the shift to extraction game. means my friends will actually want to play it and will give it so much more life and replayability.

[@IGniTo100]

Nothing worse in a PvP shooter game than a 3rd person camera and exploiting corners/walls with it. Should've stuck with PvE looter shooter.

[@Michelle-kc8ht]

You're a complete loser

[@dogwithdabutter4]

disagree with that. especially once you play it, you start to understand. Being able to look around corners is more of a tool to keep you safe more than anything.

[@Giliver]

​@@dogwithdabutter4no it isn't? Any PvP game that adds a 3rd person camera is instantly ruined. You can literally stand near the corner of a wall and camp players that would otherwise not see you coming. In a 1st person game this isn't possible.

[@dogwithdabutter4]

@@Giliver it’s just a thing you have to get over. There are many Third person PvP games. if you refuse to play them because of your closed mindset, then good for you. I and most others don’t mind corner peeking.

[@iceybrice]

I played the playtest, the devs have thoroughly thought about this same discrepancy you have and dealt with it. Once people play the game they'll be able to tell it's not an issue.

[@Ant_370]

Not really understanding why everyone is hating that it changed to PvPvE… adding real players to the game will keep it fresh. If it was just PvE, after one play through, I would probably never go back to it again. But now that there’s PvP, I’ll be invested in the game a lot longer. The Division is PvE (unless you go in the dark zone) but the PvE for me got old quick

[@spaceghost8891]

Damn, when I see the words "battle royale" and "extraction shooter" it already turns me off. We need more arena shooters where are those? People like to roll the dice to win more than just be good at FPS games.

[@dogwithdabutter4]

battle royales and extraction games are nothing alike, why are we comparing them here? BRs are old and oversaturated at this point, but there's barely been any extraction games to come out, let alone high-quality ones like arc raiders. And if you want a good unique new arena shooter, go play The Finals it's made by the same devs as arc raiders :))

[@spaceghost8891]

@dogwithdabutter4 I did not compare them. Just said both are not what I like for an FPS. Thanks for the suggestion.

[@InvaderShane]

The old version of the game looked so kuch better. We have enough extraction shooters and similar games. I mean we also have enough looter shooters too but the old one looked unique enough. The only extraction games i wanna play is Dark and Darker.

[@TroubleShotVFX]

So long ARC Raiders. We barely knew ya.

[@TheRealKinetic-q1t]

L

[@torthepro7660]

Its the most promising extraction game since the cycle, this time they have a box price, which that game didnt have, which lead to its complete downfall, I get you want a looter shooter, but fact stands, there hasnt been a good looter shooter made in a long time, only one ive enjoyed personally is borderlands 2, and not any other looter shooter, doubt this game would be any different with its original direction, and if it was, cool, but its not, this game is unique, and thats all that matters, nothing else.

[@MuShinnen]

​@@torthepro7660There is nothing unique about another pvpve looter shooter. The art direction sure. The mechanics, and problems that will plague the game are as old as time. They decided to forgo making an interesting looter shooter game in favor of Tarkov with a new coat of paint. The game won't last.

[@torthepro7660]

@@MuShinnen played alot of extraction shooters now, and this game is unique, like alot of those games, the cycle was unique, tarkov is unique, arena breakout... not really, this game unique, i played the beta for about 50hrs, doing mostly pvp because thats what i enjoy in these games, and it felt alot different from all those games, in what you can do ingame and take to your advantage, like ziplines, the grappling hook, which was awesome to get high ground with or flank people camping, and time to kill in this game is perfect, its so good that if you get shot my a camper, you still have enough time to get out your weapon, and kill him if your better than him, which happened to me, a few times in beta wtih people extract camping, problems will be the same as the other games, but problems are fine to have, aslong as their is solutions.

[@MuShinnen]

@@torthepro7660 There aren't solutions to those problems. That's the point. Every game in the genre has fallen prey to the same exact issues: rampant cheating, stagnated content rollout, and a shrunken player base. Extraction shooters oversaturate an already niche part of the market, and adding one more title to the pile will not change that dynamic. It's unfortunate.

[@indorr]

unlike yourself im not a fan of pvp extractions and was hoping the same-for another great open world looter shooter-so sadly not touching Arc Raiders,and gutted even more seeing this looking really good and having division movement(my favourite character movement of all)EDIT-they really should follow Division (Dead zone)scheme-you want pvp go specific map/area,if not ,stick to pve-but what's this became it reduces player base drastically

[@StephenHutson]

This was the most fun gaming experience I've had in over 10 years. The play test has been over for weeks but I'm still thinking about it. I don't get the hate for the mode. I'm new the genre but I found the gameplay thrilling, strategic, immersive, frustrating, rewarding, and overall fantastic. From a technical standpoint, it was perfect on my end. Ran great, the audio is SO GOOD, and I love the world they've built. Feels like it's positioned in a really unique spot. Can't wait for the full release.

[@Morthy1992]

You're new to the genre, that's why you don't get it (yet). I played Arcs, and sadly it feels like any other extraction shooter just with another skin. Gameplay-wise, it's a copy past of a classic extraction shooter.

[@jake152]

Yep, it has a great setting with perfect graphics and performance, hopefully full release is soon

[@do_wuh]

If I could only add a clip of Gary Oldman from the Fifth Element to convey my thoughts on the genre switch. Why can't the game have a choice, so we can play the way we like. Picking PvE let's you enjoy the game as a looter shooter, grinding for rare drops and power. Picking PvEvP lets you enjoy the game as an extraction shooter, competing for loot and progression. TBH, I no longer enjoy my time playing multiplayer games, I prefer coop and solo games. Probably has to do with me getting old and not wanting to spend time with other humans unlike myself. Great video by the way. I rarely feel like I need to be skeptical before watching one of your uploads.

[@OutOfReach_AU]

So sick of Extraction/Battle Royal reskins. It's upsetting they shifted direction.

[@husbandrew]

Looter shooter enjoyer here, with how little enemies there are I really think extraction is absolutely the way to go because the burn out would happen as soon as you get semi-confident gear. Extraction games involve risk and reward instantly. I extracted with wires and a few engine parts? I was definitely hoping to god I could just extract. We can't have another Destiny 2 live service garbage happen again, either you make the 1 or 3 hours I play incredible or memorable or it's just gonna be 'grinding' for weeks just for godroll that ends up rotting in some vault space.

[@henridenafel]

fyi some of the people in embark studios were the "Dice" OGs behind BF1 and BFV. instead of opting into the dogshit 2042 project, they instead formed a new studio called Embark. W devs!

[@Cluxiu]

and made a free to play masterpiece.

[@ThMindFdr]

They left because of BF1😂😂 rubbish for cod kids..

[@ThMindFdr]

And they didnt make BFV,they started to leave after bf4, they knew what was happening.. where are you getting ur info from??

[@CloudyB_MT]

Been following this one for years! It really has a Star Wars battlefront 2 and Battlefield 1 element to it which i love so much(the fact that they're actually some of the same developers makes it all the more lovely). Its a real shame it became an extraction shooter imo, but hopefully this game finds success.

[@daryl3701]

I think the only problem they will run into is a mass wave of cheaters 😢. Unless they do pve servers also

[@sascha.kiefer]

I had an absolute blast in the techtest. I was sceptical at first because of 3pp and I would still prefer 1pp but everything was so polished. I loved the atmosphere and the world and the AI opponents added a lot to the experience and were more interesting than in similar games I have played. I would not play this without PvP so I am happy about the direction.

[@KeyboardSavant]

“PvEvP Extraction Shooter” sounds like a Dark Zone vibe from The Division. Most of my time playing TD games was exclusively spent in the DZs… so that’s a plus.

[@Lvl99_]

The division survival mode was peak gaming. Especially first month of the games release

[@Giliver]

The Division would be a significantly better game without the dark zone. All that crap does is cause the vast majority of players to quit. Cool idea but it doesn't work in the modern gaming landscape.

[@tissuewater]

@@Giliver by "modern gaming" you mean gamedev companies catering to casual players who love to complain a lot when things don't go their way?

[@86ericg]

Well the change i was looking for this game not anymoore with this bullshit pvp good buy of my list

[@parkerloney]

Unpopular opinion but I don't think there is anything wrong with it becoming PvPvE. I haven't found any extraction shooters that I really enjoy but Arc Raiders is just different. I played the beta and really enjoyed it, definitely will be buying.

[@tawsibprotik2777]

why every game wants to be tarkov when they never succeed

[@dogwithdabutter4]

this game is nothing like tarkov

[@purposly]

@@dogwithdabutter4 It's yet another PvPvE extraction shooter where you have to rely on the kindness of absolute strangers and the chinese to not kill you immediately and take your stuff. It's exactly like Tarkov and that's the exact reason for all the hostility towards this direction the game is going in

[@iceybrice]

This game is absolutely nothing like tarkov. Tarkov is a game you play if you want to piss yourself off. Arc raiders was super accessible in the playtest.

[@gregor1001ad]

I was very keen on this as a looter shooter but this shift in core concept means I'll not be jumping in on this. Why? Time value. I don't get to play games much these days, like many family, commitments, work, etc. just soak away leisure time. So if I get a handful of spread out hours a week to play something and relax it's gotta be something I'm going to enjoy and make progress on. A looter shooter I can jump in with friends or by myself and play for a mission or two and come away with progress on goals and having relaxed with the time I have is worth it. Same with any single-player game, I can just do a bit while I can, get through some more story or whatever and come away feeling more rested. PvP in any form though, which I'm not against at all and do enjoy, depending on how the play session goes, can leave me with basically no progress if on a losing streak or too worn out from life to actually perform well making the time spent frustrating rather than relaxing. So with this game, while it looks and sounds good, having the competitive element means progress, growth and gain by way of development or experiences is less of a certain or known commodity when being bought with precious minutes and hours even if the gameplay loop is very quick. In a broader way this seems to be something a lot of game studios have lost sight of which is where so many games have pivoted to PvP focus when being limited on time player-types (at least from those suggested by Bartle's Taxonomy) tend be worse served by PvP than by PvE generally speaking.

[@richsilvestri7704]

Yeah, I'm with most the looter shooter being no longer the main focus, kind of kills the game some for me. I mean it still looks solid, but BR's and extraction games aren't that big on my list these days, lot of my long time gamer friends have moved from these type of games. We'll see I guess. As always very in depth review!

[@dogwithdabutter4]

extraction games are not in any way comparable to BRs. They are completely different and more of a niche. If you don't like BRs, that doesn't mean you'll automatically hate Extraction games. Plus there's been... maybe 2(?) actually good extraction games currently on the market? so there's not much competition here despite what some youtube commenters here will have you believe, especially not for console.

[@DisgruntledDoomer]

I don't really like 3rd person shooters, but it's nice to see you can at least switch from shoulder to shoulder here. Why don't more games let you do that?

[@Nammjahtan]

I agree with shoulder switch so much. Especially because I'm a lefty and most games have you looking over the right shoulder. I always feel like I'm missing something.

[@ForeignFabric]

They fxcked this up,we was looking forward to pve looter shooter,now this shit the same generic extraction,for what ?

[@shallot4991]

Ah too bad they didn’t cater to you specifically, what a shame

[@GTmaster09]

​@@shallot4991 brother open your eyes, game's overall reception totally shifted when they announced their new direction. This game will flip after a month 😂

[@OfficerMighty]

​@@shallot4991him and most players in general are asking for more pve games because every new shooter that comes out is some form of pvp

[@thelast749]

​@@shallot4991 it did to a lot of people when it was announced. Now the fanbase got alienated

[@shallot4991]

@@thelast749 i wonder who has the authority to choose what video game they make and if they’re comfortable making it, too bad it wasn’t us

[@yokorose]

still a huge disappointment that they changed it from a pve game to a pve-pve game , its a huge skip for me and just not what i want anymore from games, i find pvppve to be so boring and over used now

[@dogwithdabutter4]

overused? can you give me some examples? (rhetorical question- there aren't any good PvPvE extraction games out right now aside from Hunt and maybe tarkov. but both of those games arfe so different from arc raiders that they are hardly comparable.

[@milkmanhasthemilk1860]

Just theorizing this, but considering the shift to Pvevp, I think this shows how Embark may have not been confident in creating a gameplay loop that entirely revolved around a singleplayer/coop third person experience, while also relying on a freemium moneytary system due to their promise to release as free to play. I also understand that people are not confident in playing another extraction shooter but considering this is Embark, I have confidence they will implement features that will distinguish Arc Raiders from the rest of the extraction genre.

[@mrumck]

Meh.... i wanted this to be a looter shooter sooo bad . Petition to change it back !

[@shallot4991]

Nah

[@iceybrice]

Played in the playtest, I want it the way it is, imo they would ruin this game if they reversed course. It's incredibly accessible, it's not like tarkov, so I guarantee you're going to play it and enjoy it at some point.

[@JensenStark-y9m]

Glad it's still looking good, excited here. Agree with you on the "change of direction"

[@foulplay99]

PvPvE extraction - ugh... I was really hopeful after that initial preview trailer, but after learning its PvPvE extraction I'm just not interested.

[@xfreedombuckO5x]

What a dealbreaker.

[@Umiriin]

Everyone complaining about “another extraction shooter”… “it’s already so saturated.” Like looter shooters aren’t saturated. There’s only like less than a handful of good extraction shooters. There are so many great pve coop/single games out there already. This is an awesome game, coming from playing the alpha.

[@TheSense13]

The most saturated part of the shooter market is military shooters, and they never complain about those. Everything else is few and far between. People just love the bitch about everything.

[@hoopla5502]

Looter shooters are saturated? Name 2 solid looters besides warframe or destiny 2. Borderlands USED to be good . The looter genre is not saturated, and I wouldn't say the extraction genre is either , bit I would also say the extraction genre isn't even remotely as popular as tarkov makes it seem . There has been a number of failed extraction shooters just in the past year. None of them succeed.

[@Umiriin]

@ You’re absolutely right. Besides Destiny, Borderlands, Division, First Descendent, Outriders, and maybe Warframe, there really isn’t a lot of “true” looter shooters & you can barely even justify the last three that I mentioned. So I agree with you. Comparatively speaking though more options than the extraction genre that really does not have anything like you said, besides Tarkov & failed games in the past year(s) (RIP The Cycle). We’re all starving for the next big game within the two genres. All I’m saying is I’m glad that we’re getting a promising looking game & people shouldn’t write it off just because they decided to pivot by adding pvp.

[@hoopla5502]

@@Umiriin outriders was good, but iirc the servers are no longer active. I just don't think extraction shooters are as popular as tarkov makes them seem. I'm not saying it should be written off , I just don't think nearly as many people want these games as devs seem to think everyone does.

[@Nathdood]

Weird, I've had this on my wishlist for a long time now. Nice to see some news on it