ARE GRAPHENE COATINGS SNAKE OIL ?!?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

⬇🔶 LINKS TO PRODUCTS MENTIONED IN THIS VIDEO ⬇⬇ 🇺🇸 For people in USA: 303 Graphene Spray (Amazon): amzn.to/3no10gE 303 Graphene Spray (Car Supplies Warehouse): bit.ly/37jSeeI 🇨🇦For people in Canada: 303 Graphene Nano Spray Coating: bit.ly/3nl4lxr 🇬🇧For people in the UK: 303 Graphene Nano Spray Coating: bit.ly/3q7aAaQ Chemical resistance test of graphene coatings: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYu8i5Zvqqmsm80 Watch of few of my graphene coatings reviews and application tutorials: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnnNqZSIr52cn6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnnIl61pjbJ-Z8k Watch some other interesting graphene technology discussions in these videos: Pan TheOrganizer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJbZpJKfftetjKs Chicago Auto Pros: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZPJo2ZrjtB3sM0 Larry from AMMO NYC: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5-TdaloYpyLftE The Rag Company ft. Yvan Lacroix: kzbin.info/www/bejne/opyopKdqj5WUack

[@altillman1448]

This was by far the most informative and humble video I have ever viewed between an end user and a manufacturer. Truely spoken at a level we can all comprehend. Spot on what every prosumer seeks out prior to purchasing a currently (SOLD OUT) online $20+ product. Thank you Pan for making these professional connections for your viewers. I will use 303 products with a renewed understanding for their integrity in achieving end results!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for the kind words and feedback Al. It's nice to see that my viewers appreciate me coming up with a variety of different content and getting more information out to you guys, so you can make more informed purchase decisions and just learn more about the technology in the car care industry.

[@amesbears]

Yes I totally agree with Al! He is spot on!

[@JWL-UK]

Why is it that graphene oxide and not pure graphene is being used? The simple answer should be because it's the most appropriate derivative for this type of application. It's not that difficult of a concept to grasp. Hats off to David and Pan for the great and informative show.

[@josequiroz4605]

Because graphene itself is very expensive trust me you wouldn't want to buy if you could

[@rocken8899]

He answered this and explained this.

[@JWL-UK]

@@rocken8899 I know, I was aiming at the naysayers who still don't understand.

[@williamthomastaggart5080]

Pan, great interview, need to do more. David was honestly generous with his time. 👍👍

[@shawnrudd4234]

You do, but you don’t know how much of an impact your videos have on DIYs across the world! Thank you for being awesome and thank you for doing videos like this!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Wow, thank you Shawn! It's really nice of you guys to give me such great feedback. I really work hard to produce videos for y'all, so it's nice to get recognition, as I also try to vary my content and always keep fresh ideas coming your way, it's always a surprise what the next video will be about! :) That being said, what's your favourite video on my channel so far?

[@shawnrudd4234]

So so awesome you replied and so quick! One thing I am curious about is if I want to do 2 applications a year but want to do at least an IPA to get back down to the clear coat will that remove the graphene coating?

[@shawnrudd4234]

@@PanTheOrganizer well I discovered you looking for for a foam cannon so I’de have to say the one where you did a comparison and I was hooked. But so many have been so so helpful. Thank you so much!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

That won’t remove the graphene, but it’s still a good idea. Wash, iron remover, ipa, reapply graphene coating.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@VictorySpeedway]

I succumbed to the hype and bought a bottle of 303. Per your initial review, I will apply this over all the sealant I have on all three cars (Turtle Ceramic and Bead Maker). As long as I don't have to remove existing sealants (a lot of work I don't feel like doing!), I'll give this a try. As previously mentioned, I have used 303 silicone protectant on my cars' interiors and rubber gaskets for years. As for the longevity of the product (Seven years? Really?), I remain skeptical. No matter, because I apply a sealant or quick spray after every wash. Thanks, as always, for the BEST auto detailing channel on the internet!

[@JWL-UK]

303 estimates a year worth of protection for their spray coating.

[@waxmanvids5015]

7 years was referring to some sio2 coatings not this 303 product

[@clbdyc]

I got the Adam's graphene spray and put it on top of the Black Ice ceramic coat that was on my car already. Car looks better than ever. 2016 Elantra outside 24/7.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Pete, but I think you are confused with other products. The 303 Graphene Spray Nano Coating is claimed to last up to 1 year, not 7. And yes you can apply it on top of your existing protection without removing it. However, to get maximum performance and durability out of this, there's nothing better than stripping everything and starting from scratch. But you don't have to.

[@AZGT350]

I tried this product last month on a few vehicles. One was my daily driver, a black truck. The coating that comes out of the bottle is black, not sure why. It seems to give the black paint a nice depth and nice shine. But, it doesn’t give it a nice silky soft touch. No comparison to Hybrid 07 sealant for softness. Second vehicle was a Shelby Daytona Coupe with a high end newer paint job. This finish is so smooth, a microfiber cloth just sides off when laying flat. 303 seemed the remove the silky finish and made it a little less soft. For $20, it’s not bad but it’s not all that...

[@Youknowitbby]

Very true the “slickness” that was advertised aka “hype” was not as slick as other competition in the same category

[@404notfound.....]

Excellent discussion on a very promising product. Thank's for putting these questions forward pan. 👍👍🇨🇦

[@PanTheOrganizer]

You bet!

[@brianhickey5949]

Pan - great stuff. Graphene has been around as an industrial lubricant for many years. The innovation was finding a molecular structure that would serve as a coating. David really clears things up for us - excellent interview. Thank you so much!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Brian!

[@shawnsteen8169]

I bought the glassperency graphene coating you recommended. So far I love it. Can’t wait to see how it last during the winter.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Great to hear!

[@lemosley01]

It's 7 months later and Winter is over! How did it hold up?

[@shawnsteen8169]

@@lemosley01 I have no complaints. It’s an outstanding product still beads like new.easy cleaning. I recommend it!!!

[@gardenparty3288]

For years we have used 303 products with great confidence. This interview grounds the 'why' of why we trust in their products . Thank you both.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Jax! Glad to hear you enjoyed the interview.

[@IntervalePC]

Well done👋🏼👋🏼 Thank you Pan & David for giving clarity to the Graphene community👍🏼👍🏼✌🏼

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Our pleasure!

[@82abn58]

This video was excellent many thanks to David, great to see passion. 303 is a honest company and that works for me. Thank you Pan for hosting this. Great Job!!!!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@Technobosse]

j'ai hâte d'avoir une vidéo sur les protections graphène en Français !

[@fishingmedic1]

Damn Pan!! this was an awesome educational video and look forward to the others. Thank you for digging up the dirt on this topic.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Hey thanks for the feedback Cory! Nice to see my audience appreciates the efforts I go to bring you guys fresh content.

[@mcalette]

Excellent video. Very informative. The bottom line for most of us is, does the product work?This 303 spray coating sure seems to. Graphene in some form or derivative is being used in many applications like golf balls and other high performance products. The R&D folks across many business lines are starting to explore and implement graphene based products. I think that is super cool and look forward to trying this product once available in Canada. Thanks Pan for arranging this interview with the 303 lab manager. Super interesting!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Glad you thought so Mark!

[@joe_rc350]

I think ill stick to turtle wax ICE seal n shine... Or the sonax trio.

[@Darkhunter218]

Use seal and shine with turtle wax ice spray wax as a topper

[@DearSX]

I'm am using Seal and Shine now and several of the Hybrid Ceramic products and I'm liking them a bit, but I want to give 303 Graphene a try as a Seal and Shine replacement partly because it requires less prep work to last 6 months (probably). Still relatively new to his detailing stuff. Looking for products that make detailing fast, long lasting and easy. Products like TW Wet Wax.

[@mynsxt6]

I will continue to use seal n shine, fusso coat, hydrosilex recharge, meguiars hybrid ceramic wax, beadmaker, colinite 915 and 845, basically I will continue to use all the products I purchase...comes down to what mood I am in, plus it's fabulous to have many choices when it comes to detailing!!!!!

[@chadh6478]

Thank you for bringing the chemist to your channel, I look forward to trying this on my vehicles...just have to buy the stuff when it's available again as I was too slow on the draw.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thank you!

[@michaelwilliamson70]

Thanks for this video. I have always loved spending time with my cars. A few years back I had a professional coating done and it sent me into a rabbit hole. Just did my first DIY ceramic coating with Adams grapheme advanced formula and followed your tips and turn out amazing. Now I’m going to do my girls car just cause I loved the process so much. You do a great job bridging the gap between professional and DIY. Thanks Pan!!!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Michael. I appreciate the feedback and I'm glad I can serve as an inspiration for people to learn about detailing and enjoy taking care of their vehicles! :) Welcome to my channel. You discovered one of the biggest car detailing channels on KZbin as we surpassed 855,000 subscribers and 108 million views! I have been detailing for 25 years and I love to share my knowledge and passion with my viewers. You found the right channel to help you learn everything about detailing.

[@eddie3064]

Pan: "There is a lot of misinformation on KZbin..." Sound familiar? Yep, just pick a topic...😏 Anyway, thanks Pan and David. Personally my 3 favorites for my car have been Seal and Shine, Meguiar's Gold Class Quik Wax (slight edge over Seal and Shine IMO) and Collinite 845 for that long lasting shine. I do want to give this 303 Graphene spray a try though. Great info! 👍

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for watching Eddie.

[@mynsxt6]

I have my launch edition bottle waiting to try once the weather is optimal, I detail year round outside mostly. In the Raleigh NC area very mild winter, so as long as it is above 35 degrees I am washing our cars and detailing!!!!!

[@brianconner1389]

Pan, I can't thank you enough for being you, and also for sharing this with us. 1. I applied this product evening into darkness (with lights setup), but I don't think I really ever saw it cure to a "white" haze. It's a dark grey metallic car, and I might not have waited long enough before removing. It just looked kind of wet, mostly clear-ish when I removed. Did I just wipe off tentative layers that should have stacked up? Clearly something is on there now because beading occurs, especially after the prior step (see #2 below) 2. I used CarPro Spotless on the CQuartz coated car (with layers of Reload and Hydro2, so who knows which layer the water spots were between.) It expectedly removed any hydrphobic properties of the coating, after neutralizing with power wash spray followed by an additional wash with Reset soap. Water spots are still showing, particularly on the roof, so did I just lock them in under this layer (rhetorical question I guess), but it leads me to the actual concern..... By NOT claying/de-ironing the si02 layers (I was under the impression it is not recommended), haven't I also now sealed in contaminants? Ultimately, would you recommend "undoing" all these layers and just compound/polish down to the clear coat and start from the correct prep level, or just keep going with this 303 product, topping every 6 months or so? 3. Lastly (sorry), Just wanted to report that after a normal washing of my my microfiber towels right after this application, they are stained black and still smell like petroleum distillates, and do not have that "grabby" feel to them. They're soft and seem to need an additional washing. I'm wondering if they're junk now since maybe the product sat long enough to "stick"? (1 hour?) Thanks again for your time, and especially for your effort if you happen to see and answer any of these!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Hi Brian. Thanks for the kind words, I appreciate them. I'll try to answer your questions, but I must admit you lost me there as there is lots of text and it's getting late lol. In your case, as your paint seemed to have been affected by water spots, contamination and mineral deposits, then it would have been best to fully strip the paint and start from fresh, that's 100% sure. Wash, chemical iron removal, claybar, machine polishing (which is what really removes the water stains), IPA wipe down and then start fresh with a coating application like your 303. I think you would have had a much better experience. There comes a point where there are so many layers of protection on a car, like seems to have been the case with yours, that it gets difficult to obtain the best results when applying a new product like 303 Graphene spray coating. Multiple layers of CQuartz, Reload, HydrO2, etc. Your paintwork was saturated most probably. And no worries for your towels. 303 said that if you wash the towels and applicators after use (1 to 2 hours is ok) no problem, you can reuse them. It's normal that they are stained black, as that's the graphene oxide that has a black tint. I hope this helps!

[@brianconner1389]

@@PanTheOrganizer Thanks so much for your time and reply.!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

My pleasure Brian. Thanks for supporting my channel.

[@superk9letsplays419]

Thank you pan for the shout out I appreciate it very much and will give you a shout out as well in my next video

[@KevinAClassA]

Thank you Pan and David, I appreciate your time in doing this. Stay safe

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for watching Kevin!

[@josefernandoduran7373]

That was a great interview, I always wanted to find a discussion were technical and phenomenological aspects take place. In addition, I understood that the surface temperature lowering effect could be explained in terms of the rates of heat transfer vs the rate of evaporation and slicking of water droplets. The rate of heat transfer is generally described by an overall heat transfer coefficient, as well as the heat capacity, naturally, that parameters are function of the chemical species involved in the system, in this case graphene oxide structure. From this perspective the overall heat transfer coefficient should be lower (and/or the heat capacity should be higher) than the one of the SiO2 structure, basically due to the presence of Carbon species. This situation would allow the graphene oxide structure to act as a reservoir (or sink) of heat, avoiding the fast rate transfer from the surface of the coat to water, which in turn, would minimize the interaction of the hardness of the water by increasing the time for the droplets to slide to the ground without being evaporated, or eventually, to be dried by air or by contact methods.

[@peterholmes2089]

Awesome video. Pan, if you have chance to ask him some more questions, i have a couple: 1) What would happen if you tried to apply multiple layers of their spray coating? Would you end up with an every increasingly thick layer, or would it basically replace the layer that was already there? 2) Can other products, such as quick SI02 detailers, be stacked on top of this product?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Peter! To answer your questions: 1) 303 said you can apply up to three layers 2) yes

[@petroleo4]

What a great guy! Loved the interview Pan! Definitely trying this.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Isaac!

[@christopherfoxwallace1291]

I am not the normal user. I was about to formulate a Graphene coating for true testing to determine it's efficiency. I have serious doubts that these Graphene products are effective beyond the carrier agents effects. Most are infused with GO , Graphene Oxide, which is 1. Water ... Hydrophilic. It attracts water, not repellant. 2. GRaphene does not automatically bond to itself or another surface. 3. The Graphene coatings available are using Silane, which is Concrete water proofing Poly. So the actual effect is not from Graphene, but from the waterproofing Poly. Now Graphene does not mix into anything else easilly. There are specific ways it must be manufactured and handled, which are not inexpensive. You cannot stir or cook Graphene. Graphene only melts under temperatures of 9,000. Deg. Kelvin, which The 303 company does not have the capability. So how is this supposed Graphene being manufactured. It may interest anyone reading this that there is a Company that owns the Patent in US and Internationally for all five known way of manufacturing Graphene coatings. Google bought them. International in 2017, and in US in 2018.

[@noelroga4593]

Now that's interesting

[@sooocheesy]

It would be interesting to see a TEM / XPS spectroscopy analysis of these coatings. For those unfamiliar (most people), that's basically using an electron beam to very slowly drill through a material (TEM) and then use xrays to determine the material composition at a given depth (XPS). We've used this where I work to engineer multilayer laser optical coatings and it gives very precise information about coating thickness and what elements are present at a given depth. My guess is that the ceramic (SiO2)/graphene component is probably a tiny fraction of the carrier liquid (Silane as you say?) which is what's really doing the majority of the hydrophobic 'work' that people want from coatings. It's also likely that the SiO2/Graphene is only present in some areas (ie there's gaps between them) across the surface and the majority of the surface is just covered with the carrier epoxy (silane). This is not to say these coatings are BS or don't work - I use them and they do work - but it's probably more accurate to say that only 0.1% of the bottle you buy is actually ceramic or graphene and the other active ingredient that makes up 5-10% is Silane..

[@christopherfoxwallace1291]

@@sooocheesy Silane is a polymer of Si (silicone), so it is difficult to distinguish from SiO2, Silicone Dioxide. G, or GO , Graphene Oxide binds easilly to Polymers, so it does work to some degree. In this case , many Auto Paints are Polyurethane. So GO and Silane will bond to it. The problem I have with these companies is that they claim they have a proprietary formula, but this can also be an excuse to avoid scrutiny. Also None of these companies can claim they have done any serious testing. One You Tube video claimed they could install a 7 year Graphene coating. I laughed and told him such a claim was impossible seeing the coatings haven't been around for more than a year, and I dare any company to prove me wrong with proof. I think one Detailer read on one bottle a company claimed that using their Graphene could make the paint surface cooler. Now a real GO coating could do this, and it is one reason why I was going to manufacture a Coating for testing which would eventually go towards aerospace use. But to make these claims without having done the proper research is irresponsible, false advertising bordering on fraud.

[@JayTdub13]

Seal and shine still has my pick... interesting, though.

[@clou1969]

Top up your Seal and Shine with the Turtle Wax Ice Spray wax you’ll get a crazy gloss and extra protection.

[@JayTdub13]

clou1969 I’ve got them both in my garage 😁

[@lymanellsworth4727]

Seal and Shine is awesome, long lasting and effortless to apply, at a great price. My pik too.

[@loganalmanza675]

Fk425 is the best trooper out there

[@Darkhunter218]

@@clou1969 Same, I use seal and shine and I top off with turtle wax ice spray wax every 2-3 washes

[@stephenmoxley3004]

Great video, Pan. After your last video, introducing the 303 Graphene product, I found out that it was totally sold out. Fortunately, I'm on an email list, to let me know when it's back in stock. I'm looking forward to trying this stuff out. Keep up the good work.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Stephen!

[@mattduffy2023]

Wow... I was blown away with the difficult questions and honest answers . Pan you were on the ball and asked everyone's questions about this newer technology. I wanted to purchase this but still sold out....grrr.. Would love to see you interview other companies like the last coat , turtle wax and even hand applications products like SPS & Artdeshine....BTW I will take all of the care products you don't want..lol

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Glad you enjoyed it! And I'm also glad to see that you thought I did a good job with keeping the discussion flowing despite me asking those tough questions. It was nice to see a company not backing down from this kind of an interview, and actually just replying to everything I asked without even saying "I can't answer to that" or "Can you cut that out in the editing?"

[@mattduffy2023]

Did you watch Chicago Autos interview with Beasley products about graphene?? I don't think the owner if automotive products understands the concept of graphene oxide. He kept talking about graphene as a electrical conductor...yes it is ...as an retired electrician...yes it is used in my field BUT.... He needs to put graphene oxide in the automotive field..not just putting graphene in a bottle of ceramic coating and slapping a label on it......sorry for the rant. Pan I trust you and your expertise in your field and you are hell of a nice guy too. Please continue doing content, that we all love and enjoy buddy !!

[@chargerman165]

I bought a new 2020 Silverado RST Midnight Edition and decided to order the 303 Graphene. Six months ago and truck shines as they say ‘like new money’. Today just detailed a 2014 Ford Escape Silver with 106,500 you would not believe the difference. This vehicle had been taken care of but this made it look brand new. Do it right and it is so easy to apply. Recommend it highly.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for sharing your real world experience.

[@newtyp_technologies]

Great interview and many thanks. Always appreciate the new knowledge, as well as other options as the detailing and automotive industries continue to excel with new technology.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@bsto5000]

This guy is being honest, the only thing i see is his educational level is high, and he is struggling to put it in to layman's terms. LOL Seems like a very nice guy.

[@carlosorengo1809]

Great interview Pan, as always no matter what always we are going to see what I call Hallway Attorneys or Hallway Chemist that because they use a product that makes them expertise or even a degree in. You always going to have the Keyboard Warriors which they are on this category Mr. or Mrs know it all. Thanks PAN for another great video. 💯👍👍👍

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Hahah I totally agree with you Carlos! There are so many so called 'internet experts' ahaha!! Thanks for watching!

[@Raymo2u]

I remember Graphene from "Super Batteries" back when I was in highschool almost 20 years ago...its nothing new but man, do they market it as so many "amazing" things. When asking if what a company sells is legit, why would you believe a word of what the company or those that depend on the sales of the item says? A man will ignore the truth if his income depends on it...you need third party testing to get truth. Im not saying the product doesnt do what he says, but I wouldnt take them without a grain of salt.

[@TimberWulfIsHere]

Okay but if they make a claim and its false, they can be sued you know? so also take that into account.

[@garyhopkinson-hz8nu]

Many thanks Pan, that was an incredible interview both from you with your understanding of chemistry etc,and remarkably honest from David. I 1not be happier as I purchased this product after watching used it on your Porsche,also the long term review on your girl friend’s car. It pretty expensive down here in Australia,$59-00. But the results on my eight year old white Santa Fe are sensational. I have always placed you opinion of a product to finalise my decision go ahead as you are passionate, professional and honest.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for the kind words, but I think you are perhaps confused with which products I used on which cars. On my Porsche we applied the Roar Coatings professional grade coating. And on my girlfriend's Nissan Rogue we applied the Adam's Advanced Graphene Ceramic Coating when she took delivery of her vehicle in October 2021. The 303 Graphene Nano Spray Coating was applied to a Nissan Qashqai in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnnIl61pjbJ-Z8ksi=57lJ7mbmMfFPVf-R

[@tonyjoe5707]

Great vid and plenty of questions answered in plain English. For me the ease of use, durability and the instant cure time makes this a winner. I don't have a garage to put my car so the cure time is a big plus for me and I'm looking forward to this, hopefully, coming to the UK.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Tony!

[@turbalejo4999]

I am getting graphene coating tomorrow locally. They are using Adams? Do you like this brand and will I be happy? Thank you for your expertise here!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

The Adam's Graphene Ceramic Coating is better than their Adam's Graphene Ceramic Spray version.

[@Oher58]

Wow what a great discussion! Should have more like these conversations. Good Pan and David.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Glad you enjoyed it Omar!

[@VictorySpeedway]

Finally got a decent day to wash and apply 303 Graphene. It certainly is black! I followed the directions, waiting for a light-colored haze, then remove / buff. It doesn't smell like strawberries, peaches, or mangoes. It smells like it's a dedicated industrial product. That's fine. It's more difficult to remove - lots of drag. Good exercise! There were no streaks. My paint is shiny, but not slick by any means. I like slick. Solution: Top with Bead Maker next wash. Now THAT'S slick! Longevity: I have no idea, and probably will never know. I use a spray detailer (almost always Bead Maker, Turtle Seal & Shine once in a while) every time I wash. I have no comment on any other claims (surface temp, etc.). 303 Graphene is economical to use, and well worth taking a chance. I will never pay big money for a tiny bottle of XYZ Razzmatazz. Not for a daily driver. If I had a Ferrari or a Mercedes for entertainment, I would consider it. But a 10-year old Honda? Not a chance. I'll put that money in the beer fund. I'm still a huge Bead Maker fan. I'll use it 'til it's gone, then will order some more. I will also buy Turtle Seal & Shine, and 303 Graphene. They're all good, solid products, and I would never have known about them if I didn't watch "Pan the Organizer!" I'd still be using Turtle Ice Paste.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for sharing your real world experience Pete! Just out of curiosity, did you do any prep work to the paint before applying the 303? Iron remover, claybar, polish, IPA? And did you have any protection already on your paint before applying 303?

[@VictorySpeedway]

@@PanTheOrganizer I always clay bar in the spring. I applied Bead Maker, and used after every wash. On your recommendation, I tried Turtle Wax Seal & Shine (improved); liked it. I haven't done much of anything in the last two months. Paint still beads, but didn't have that slickness (I use the "fingernail test"). I have never used iron remover, IPA, and I'm too timid to use a machine. I'll give some serious thought over the winter to getting a DA polisher and trying it in the spring. I'll re-watch your videos for instructions and take my time. (It's really nice to be retired!) In the winter, I visit a car wash (I know that sounds horrible to purists, but dirty is dirty!) and spritz w/ Bead Maker. This is the time of year I just try to keep up with the lousy weather (New Jersey - there must be a salt mine around here someplace). Thanks, and Best Wishes!

[@edwinnegron7761]

Pan, love your videos, your enthuthiasm and knowledge!!!! Just began learning about graphene as a weekend warrior. Will be contemplating placing a coat of graphene for sure on my brand new car.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Cool! Thanks for the feedback. If you're thinking about applying a graphene or ceramic coating, watch my latest tutorial: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaK0iomgraukgZI

[@Enemji]

My Hi-Res earbuds contains Graphene coated PEEK diaphragm and the smooth, clear treble gives vocals an elegant sound.

[@the_1iron]

yes they are... there's so little pixie dust in these coatings due to cost it's a mktg spin graphenes been around for decades🙄 something else will take hold soon enough great vid panny👊🏻

[@freddygarcia4588]

Pan, excellent interview, very informative and easy to follow. Thanks to you and David for your time.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@larrycricketruss1738]

EXCELLENT EXCELLENT video. David was very knowledgeable and broke it down so it was easy to understand.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@4score]

Nice interview PAN! I'll admit I only watched about 80% (skipping around) and I'll go back sometime soon....but curious if there was any mention of dust resistance?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks! We didn't get into the dust discussion, but graphene coatings in general, at least the ones I have tested, seem to attract less dust compared to other paint protectants.

[@4score]

@@PanTheOrganizer Thanks...the leading reason why I want to try this 303 product. I have a black car that seems to be a magnet for dust.

[@mattbarnett9681]

Great video Pan! Love the tough questions and the honest answers. I think I’ll give this product a try! Keep up the great content, love your channel! 🇨🇦

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Matt!!

[@mynsxt6]

I will continue to use seal n shine, fusso coat, hydrosilex recharge, meguiars hybrid ceramic wax, beadmaker, colinite 915 and 845, basically I will continue to use all the products I purchase...comes down to what mood I am in, plus it fabulous to have many choices when it comes to detailing!!!!! waiting for the weather to get better so I can use this new Graphene Spray Coating Launch Edition.

[@carmenmisquez2988]

Thank you, this was amazing to hear from the chemist. Great job David!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@AlboAl8]

Great info, a lot of people don't understand that pure graphene is more towards electronics (batteries. Cars, tvs, cell phones) and super expensive. If they're to break it down to use to protect our cars that's crazy especially at such a good price. Otherwise pure graphene being able to use on our vehicles with all that tech we would probably be looking at $100 a bottle.

[@a3rocks851]

Thankyou for the Graphene info. I own stock in Graphene and love cars. So this is a very important topic that I enjoy hearing.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Glad you enjoyed this! There's another special video discussion to come soon! Stay tuned. ;)

[@ptfitness7392]

Very impressed with David and his background. He was so very humble and eager to explain the science in easy to understand terms.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Yup, straight forward down to earth guy. Nice guy.

[@Mario-si5fi]

Thanks David from 303 and Pan for a transparent and understandable video congratulations on inventing such a promising and user friendly product can wait to buy and try it on the lc500 !

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Mario!

[@MrBallisticbob]

Thank you Pan for this interview Clear, concise, to the point and informative. There will always be skepticism on a new product, and through your work it is being addressed. Great interview with "detailed" answers" , are very much appreciated. Keep doing what you do! Thanks!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks! Another cool video will be available Thursday on my channel. Stay tuned!

[@thomasuniat2939]

Awesome video Pan!!! This will take a few days to find the time to get through. Im about 30 minutes in. As an observation I question the claim that it lowers the surface temperature. It sounds like David is describing how it lowers the surface temperature to prevent spotting when it is applied, not to a fully cured coating several weeks after application on a hood sitting in the sun. I think he indirectly answered the question anyways. Graphene is great at heat transfer in the x-y plane and heat energy travels from hot to cold. It is simply "good" in the z plane. If the entire hood is the same amount of hot I dont understand how the graphene will make a big difference especially considering how thin the coating is since there is no "cooler" spot to transfer the heat to unless it was in partial shade. For example I used a graphene pad to cool my wife laptop because it transfers heat from the hot cpu over a larger area that is cooler since the cpu is significantly hotter than the surrounding materials which increases the convection. I would think convection would be the most significant form of heat transfer to cool the surface of a hot car and that's primarily determined by orientation and surface area, neither of which the spray would significantly alter. I'd also suggest the coating is pretty thin so the temperature of the clear coat and the temperature of the surface of the car would be within a fraction of a degree. The only argument I can think of is that when it rains on the car it transfers heat to the rain drop better than say a wax but I would expect that to make spotting worse, not better as it would accelerate evaporation and again due to how thin the coating is I'd suggest the difference is trivial. Perhaps David can correct me if he is reading the comments and has time but I understand he is probably pretty busy so I certainly dont expect him to. Thanks again Pan!

[@peterjurenovskis5933]

Jason from Chicago Auto Pro did a video on graphene vs ceramic. He did a test panel and showed just what Thomas is indicating: left outside in the elements, the graphene side was hotter than the ceramic and showed more water spots. For me, the is still out. 303 still makes great products, but I’m not all in yet on graphene.

[@jimrogiokos9690]

I would like to see Gtechniq Crystal Serum Light and how it is applied and whether this coating since it is a sheeting coating really benefits from any toppers. Sheeting is absolutely superior to beading as it is doing exactly what ceramic coatings should do by keeping water off the car . Do we really need toppers , or a 3 month detail wash ie fallout, panel wipe to restore sheeting again. And are there any ceramic toppers on the market that sheet more the beed.

[@TsLeng]

For the price it seems like a decent product. But here in the UK, I can get sonax extreme brilliant shine detailer spray in 750ml bottles for 7.50gbp or less so I am sticking with it. It is incredible stuff.

[@5hift6ear]

Yes, it is a bonafide sealant disguised as a quick detailer.

[@aznprodigy17]

Watching this again and super impressed by the granularity and logic of the questions. Particularly from 28:00 onwards!

[@decoservices]

Outstanding discussion! Just found your channel…immediately subscribed and have been binge-watching for a couple days now. Also…now a fan of the 303 product line given the candidness of Davids answers to your questions. Great job!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for the positive feedback! How did you discover my channel by the way?

[@decoservices]

@@PanTheOrganizer I just purchased an E450 Cabriolet in gloss black and did a deep dive into the world of “quality detailing.” Watched a couple other channels that didn’t resonate until I saw yours. The rest is history. Keep up the great work.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks I appreciate it! You discovered one of the biggest car detailing channels as we celebrated surpassing 710,000 subscribers recently. I have been detailing cars for 25 years and love sharing my knowledge and passion (ok, obsession! HAHA) with my audience. Cheers!

[@neilwalker5041]

Great video and thank you for helping to educate everyone. I think graphene is just beginning and will get a lot better. Ceramic coatings are still getting better too. Good time for us car enthusiasts!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

I agree Neil. I have never seen this many great brands and products in my 23 years of detailing experience. It's a great time to be detailing.

[@Salvaba]

Pan, phenomenal interview! Really felt like you led the discussion well. Awesome!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Glad to hear it! I'm practicing my interviewer skills more and more !!

[@carratala59]

Outstanding video and 110% transparency. So informative. Please keep doing these awesome videos. Thank you again.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thank you! Will do!

[@peterlabiak1051]

The hob-knobbing at the end was legendary ;) :D. More seriously, absolute legend David truly is! Thank you PTO for organising this one, amazing content!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@peterlabiak1051]

@@PanTheOrganizer There is nothing better than proper science explained by proper scientist so whatever enjoyment I might have had I certainly spent that hour well listening to your interview. Interestingly I went on to watch Kosilla's vid you linked to and what a different story, and for the better imho. It seems Larry realized he bet on z wrong Horse and missed the graphene boat, at least for the time being. 303, Turtle Wax- tests are amazing, especially multiple soiling and washing tests. That combined with how easy it is to apply and how resilient to enviro conditions etc. makes a real winner. Thanks again.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for the feedback Peter! How did you discover my channel by the way?

[@peterlabiak1051]

@@PanTheOrganizer Frankly I cannot remember since I have been a subscriber to your channel for a while now. If I was to hazard a guess it would a Google search for a product review. You exploded since then, great job!

[@oli31]

Respect to David for coming across as genuinely honest.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

👍🏻

[@raymondpiccin4214]

Hi Pan, love and appreciate the channel. I was wondering whether additional products can be used on top of the graphene coatings such as Bead Maker, or is this even necessary? I've used Bead Maker on my Ceramic Coating with success but I just upgraded to a Z06 Corvette (Black... what was I thinking ..lol) and I'll be trying out a Graphene product in the next week or two.. PS... I'm in Florida and water spotting has been a constant annoyance with my last Ceramic Coated Corvette. Thanks again and big fan of your channel.. keep up the great work!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

It's a good idea to do a maintenance topper once every two or three months, like with ceramic coatings, to keep peak performance going, and why not boost gloss and slickness. Yes you can continue using Bead Maker on top of graphene based coatings. How did you discover my channel by the way Raymond? Thanks for the kind words!

[@raymondpiccin4214]

I've been watching your channel for about a year and I always give it a go round before I make a final decision on car care products including hardware... I trust your channel because I find it to be honest and intended to give unbiased information (the way the real mainstream media is supposed to work...lol)... So I greatly appreciate your dedication and I hope my more viewers discover the benefits.

[@raymondpiccin4214]

Also I purchased the GP graphene product and will be applying in the next week or two after some paint correction but I'm sorry I missed out on the special edition Pan the Organizer bottle...lol

[@davidf9027]

Excellent video/interview! Thanks! Now I’m waiting for the email that more 303 is available since it’s sold out! That said: do you know if I can use the 303 graphene spray as a topper/maintenance spray on top of the Glassparancy graphene coat? The chemist said that it can be used on top of other products so I would assume this is ok but...??

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks David! Yes you can use it as a maintenance topper.

[@timothyconway6563]

This was a 1 hour, 20 minute video that I thoroughly enjoyed!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for watching! How did you discover my channel by the way?

[@timothyconway6563]

@@PanTheOrganizer I was looking for opinions on graphene coatings and found you. I also wanted to hear more about layering over the 303. Can the Adam's graphene detailer be used with it? Thanks for the information.

[@matticusmac6452]

Pan, loved this, probably the most helpful and informative vid. Love 303 stuff anyway, this truly solidified my trust in the product

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Glad it was helpful!

[@donreid3465]

Thanks Pan. Keep producing these great informative videos.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks, will do!

[@ivanramirez4838]

I’ve learned so much from this channel. Very educational .

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for the feedback Ivan! I’m always happy to hear that my viewers learn things through my videos.

[@dtna]

I have had very good luck with 303 brand products and am very loyal to them. There are so many detailing brands and products out there right now. So for now, I am sticking with 303!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for sharing your experience! How did you discover my channel by the way?

[@batvon39]

So for the laymen, the biggest takeaway is graphene is supposed to reduce water spotting. Otherwise it's almost identical to ceramic in performance, right? I may have missed it but did he mention anything about shine/gloss? Think I'm going to wait this one out. The market is too fresh, need more competitors to enter the ring. Dave sounds honest & like he knows what he's talking about, but at the end of the day science is science and gets better with time/more real world tests/more brains working on the new technology. Great video Pan. I just heard about graphene in the past few weeks and this interview was a huge help to know what it's about.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks! More veeeery interesting content coming very soon. Stay tuned! ;)

[@markfletcher_atx]

Good morning from Texas, Pan! Thanks for providing such great content for all of us. After I saw your first video on the 303 Graphene product, I immediately ordered a bottle and it just arrived. I plan on applying it to my truck and my wife's car, but do you know if I can apply this to my boat? I've been using TLC2 on it which has been working pretty great. Also - if this product was to get on rubber, will it harm it?

[@303Products]

Good questions! We mention boat use pretty late on in the video. The short answer is yes but we haven't gone through our entire testing process yet so we'd recommend testing it on a small spot first. It will not harm any rubber if it gets on it too

[@markfletcher_atx]

@@303Products thanks for the quick reply y'all! Great products and a great channel!!!!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for watching Mark!

[@samueltorres767]

Very informative video. I like that the chemist that develop these products are still trying to better the product. Thanks again for the video.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thank you!

[@shockwave1111]

Watched this and bought a 303 Graphene Nano Coat. Love the results (topped it with Carpro Reload). Does 303 have a Reload type formula?

[@christianhernandez9172]

David's honesty will be the reason why I will buy this product.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Yeah it was a great talk! And I have another special discussion coming with another special guest later this week. Stay tuned!

[@trinova8991]

Nice job David! Great interview Pan. Love the video.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Much appreciated!

[@angel31142]

Wow, this is great! Learned a lot of helpful information!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks! Glad to hear that.

[@angel31142]

@@PanTheOrganizer Thank you!

[@blackbloodedgoth]

Adams graphene ceramic coating chemist i watched your video of their product an I'm almost done apply the coating and would love to hear from the makers of how they got it to glow under u v light

[@maintenancethrottle]

I enjoyed the interview, Pan. I thought it was well done and quite helpful -- thank you! One thing I didn't hear, maybe I missed it, was what, if any, downsides are there to using the 303 product as a maintenance topper over a ceramic coating? I have Gtechniq Crystal Serum Ultra as my ceramic coating and have been looking for a good maintenance topper that will "work" with it.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

No downsides. You can use this on top of ceramic coatings.

[@Mr.Jones1983]

Alright Pan... now for a comparison of 303 vs. TW SNS 2.0

[@jasonmurkin3364]

If you want a more intellectual take on car detailing then look no further than PTO. Sets you way apart from the other detailing guys....not taking anything away from them because they have great channels too. Thanks Pan

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Jason! I truly appreciate that! I try to keep my content fresh, interesting, educational and entertaining so it’s nice to see that you guys appreciate it. 👍🏻

[@dtna]

Thank you! I will wear a mask or respirator, gloves and eye protection when applying a graphene product to protect my respiratory system. Thank you for asking my question.

[@derekjarembo9709]

What a wealth of great information Pan, thank you!!

[@davidwerst7238]

Thank Pan and David. Very informative video. Answered all my questions I had on Graphene. I am a big fan of 303 products. I always have a gallon of the aerospace protectant on hand. I can’t wait to try the Graphene spray once I can get ahold of some. Seems to sell out quick. That I would call a good sign. 👍

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Glad it was helpful!

[@amill1563]

Hi Pan what is the best cleaning fluid to put in an extractor vacuum?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

I don't use an extractor

[@Dubnlove]

Didn't know there were so many professional chemist within youtube comments.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Hahahah very good one! Yeah you know how the internet goes. Everyone is a so called "expert" on every topic! :) People with no chemical backgrounds discrediting new technology just based on what they might have heard elsewhere... Hmmmm Thankfully, the majority of my viewers appreciated this episode to learn more about it, and I have another few interesting ones like this coming up soon!

[@watchman6141]

Great job Pan and David you guys went into a lot of detail regarding graphene and I have a better understanding. However, until 303's Graphene is more readily available I will continue to use Turtle Wax's Shine N Seal in the meantime. Currently, the demand has exceeded the supply.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks!

[@JuanPerez-yy5hr]

Excellent information and discussion thank you pan fantastic as always

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Juan!

[@jayz313]

Pan, fantastic idea for a video/series. It's the ol' saying "Knolwedge is power.1" Kudos and thanks to 303 and David for candidly connecting and educating thier customers. I firmly believe the more education the consumer has on detailing products the more likely they will buy them. I don't know how to fly a helicopter so I'm not going to go out a buy one. One question I would like answered is how do all these companies seem to come out with a new technology/similar product at the same time? Did all these companies on the same day say " I have and idea let's in invent a graphine based coating starting today and have it to market in x years. Probability says no.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for that Jay! It's nice to see my viewers appreciate the original content I continue to bring and all the efforts I put into my videos. To answer your question, it has actually been over one year since car detailing companies have been releasing graphene based coatings, but I was always disappointed with the early products. So I promised myself I'd only release videos on those that actually worked well, and so this is my second graphene product review to date. And I know for a fact many others are working hard to get their products out too. Chemists have been playing with graphene oxide and graphene (in the car care world) for the last 2-4 years already.

[@Dusty.Spinster]

I came here bewildered by Matt's video, trying to figure out why he hates graphene coatings. I'm still not sure why after watching this video. Graphene seems to be its own thing especially when in this spray form. Maybe I'm not aware of over hype going on in the graphene world but I was surprised to see an entire video dedicated to (literally) smashing graphene coatings. It's also the first obsessed garage video I've seen. I have Adam's uv graphene coating but if I could go back I'd pick a higher end ceramic coating from one car pro or similar. I'd consider myself very meh on the 60mL solvent based graphene coating. They don't seem ready for prime time.

[@jaysoncarlos8651]

Thank you Pan for doing this Video. You nailed it, great video!🚘❤️

[@richardseem7948]

wow.amazing info and episode Pan.truly informative

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Glad you enjoyed it! I love digging into new technology! Even after 23 years of detailing, I still get excited about the new stuff and can't wait to try and test on my own!

[@richardseem7948]

@@PanTheOrganizer wish 303 didn't sell out so fast.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

You can put your name on their waitlist on their website.

[@richardseem7948]

@@PanTheOrganizer already did.thanks

[@acdii]

For the Graphene to be functional, it needs to be an atom thick. Harder than steel, but brittle. Can't have one without the other. I saw a test where 4 different products were used on a hood, three were Sios based the fourth the 303 Graphene. One product, CarPro Reload is what I use. After a few chemicals were thrown at it, end result the only product that still showed some protection was the 303 Graphene. Guess who will be switching products.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

I also did a super popular chemical resistance test recently, involving two graphene spray coatings (303 and Adam's) against another popular sealant here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYu8i5Zvqqmsm80 Graphene coatings are the real deal, at least the ones I have tested so far, from reputable companies.

[@tonyyetman6896]

Fantastic interview! Very informative. I would love to hear from any other company's chemists that you can get permission to interview. It offers great insight into their product development process.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Absolutely!

[@J1Z06]

Very thorough, easy to follow video. Excellent! I really enjoyed it. Thanks to both of You for sharing this.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@J1Z06]

Pan TheOrganizer it’s amazing how they come up with ideas and products like this. Have a nice weekend. I’ll be buffing/coating My vette.

[@Op_Danny]

What is the level of chemical resistance? Not just cleaners but an acid? A lot of ceramic coatings protect against acids like bird droppings, bug guts and tree sap.

[@TraumaChaplain]

Graphene vs Florida love bugs....the true test!

[@brandonbeers7923]

For that try Rejex

[@ohboy2592]

TW hybrid ceramic spray wax held up well against them for me.

[@davidcoghill8612]

There's also a lot of misinformation coming from the manufacturers. Graphene coatings work and have a lot of benefits, but the marketing is very misleading about how they work and what they do. These coatings appear to work primarily by shearing off in layers over time, constantly exposing clean surface to allow the coating to keep its hydrophobic properties for much longer, whereas the marketing is entirely focused on promoting graphene coatings as a super duper hard single layer thick coating that lasts forever. They're also misleading due to the fact that graphene and graphene oxide are highly hydrophillic. This of course means that it's useless as a car coating unless it contains the right balance of more traditional chemicals such as waxes or ceramics to give a hydrophobic surface. This then undermines 303s argument in this interview that the hydrogen bonding in graphene oxide makes their coatings very strong and difficult to remove without strong acids. Firstly hydrogen bonding is strong but it also means that water is a perfect solvent to dissolve this. Secondly there has to be a high enough percentage of hydrophobic additives to fully coat the surface of the graphene oxide that this is likely to reduce the bonding between layers significantly. On the claims of surface temperature effects of graphene, his explanation is that the phase changes during the curing of the coating absorbs heat, this is plausible, but a lot marketing is implying that once fully cured the coating will keep the car cooler while sitting in full sunlight and this doesn't happen. I don't accept the explanation that the temperature effect has a big impact on water spotting either, what's more likely is that minerals in water just bond much more easily to the ceramic coatings than graphene and the polymer/wax hydrophobic additives, as for any waterspots being easy to remove with your finger, see the first point regarding layers of graphene shearing off to expose clean coating.

[@jacktorse2145]

This seems like a great product! Wondering how it protects on the black plastic trim lots of newer cars have? Will it stop the trim from fading to gray?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

yes