Are Lokhust Destroyers BETTER Than the Lokhust Heavy Destroyers?

[@Planet40K]

Find the Lokhust Heavy Destroyer MATHHAMMER video here ----> kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqHRZH2Jrtqne6s

[@Wasemir3]

I thought a LOT about this too... I have to say I tested it a fair bit and for me it's rather clear - Lokhust Destroyers take this one easily. Mostly it's due to the AP-2 and Dam2, because in my local area armies with marine infantry is rather common so that profile just works better, especially since it's really easy to be in cover + Armour of Contempt stratagem makes it for them so easy to throw these saves. Lethal hits are also great for anything larger and tougher. In my hypercrypt I ALWAYS bring Arisen Tyrant enhancement for the Lokhust Lord to have guaranteed full reroll of hits, when I drop them using Cosmic Precision. I just need that guaranteed firepower to deal with any but the toughest targets. I use LHD with Gauss Destructors for some heavy firepower support, but the anti-infantry gun only when I am certain there are going to be some hardcore horde armies present in the tourney (tyranids/orcs for example). Not saying its not viable, just for me Lokhusts fit that reliable firepower slot in my lists. Other than that, really good video, enjoying the content! :--)

[@matthewlohnes8897]

One big thing that i havent seen anyone mention is the physical size of the unit. The regular destroyer unit is so physically large that getting all the models in range and line of sight of your target can be very difficult outside of the hypercrypt legion. The footprint of the unit is easily screened, which makes using cosmic precision absolutely necessary. Trying to get 7 60mm bases in unit coherency is problematic, too. Realistically, getting all 6 destroyers shooting into 1 optimal target at once is not a certainty.

[@supremecourt4131]

I am researching this topic for a couple of days and was discussing it with friends and now you Drop a video about it Perfect Timing

[@Planet40K]

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[@astral_ragtime5365]

I love my Lokhust Destroyers, I remember in my second match in 10th they sniped an Infiltrated unit of marines that were way up on top of a building and just wiped the entire unit in one go! Green rods forever!!

[@autakis84]

Honestly not sure if i have any lists without the good old Lokhust Destroyers in them. Been one of my staple go to units since the bygone days of 3rd ed.

[@kylejarvis7791]

Never leave home without the lokhust in awakened dynasty. Can happily fish for lethals with the full rerolls when you hit on 2+ Lord has veil of darkness to get out of the way of a charge or to reposition late game. Undying Legions to revive d3+1 and a res orb makes them pretty resilient. I hang them back out of immediate threat range and play defensively with them. I use them to help clear mid board or when charging units get too close.

[@OverlordZephyros]

I prefer the gauss for my HD (i always take 2 of them) necrons dont need the exterminator weapon as it has very good anti horde in other units overall

[@Planet40K]

I like both types

[@MrMulligan84]

I really like the Void Dragon, great model but not an investment I want to make. Transporting that beast would be so nerve wracking I'd never want to run him on the board. It also feels intimidating to paint.

[@MchaelBarnes]

I like both units respectively but I am enjoying the Lokhust destroyers a lot more recently the awakened dynasty with overlord and the nether realm casket to give them stealth synergies really well for a lot of destroyer cult models

[@TheRealCaptCarrot]

Have you considered the amount of space on the battlefield needed for these units. LDs will need a lot more for 6 plus the Lord than the 3 LHD's plus Lord. Unit coherence may also be an issue with the LDs as there are 7 models in the unit. But I will be looking at using the LD Moe in the future.

[@missingone9185]

I'd much rather take the Lokhust Destroyers. They cover more roles than Enmitic Lokhust Heavies thanks to the Lethal Hits ability. You're usually taking them to kill infantry but thanks to Lokhust Lords making it easier to get Lethal Hits, they can punch way above their weight class and take on vehicles andd monsters if somehow your Gauss Destructor Lokhust Heavies get rekt. Still can't take them tho. Can't find any to purchase where I live lol.

[@freakenrican5321]

Ebay

[@clementcate4730]

There is the difficulty to find them, and also the fact they dont look great :l Double whammy

[@es83stevenson88]

I like the heavy destroyer against light infantry. Great fun rolling that many dice. But against meq it has to be regular destroyer for the damage 2 shots.

[@es83stevenson88]

I use heavy destroyer for anti tank and regular destroyer for anti infantry. Also the regular destroyer is more durable due to having more wounds. I like to keep them in my back field with a reanimator near by

[@newvegasify1]

I run a squad of 6 Lokhust with a lord with deep strike they get full hits easily and if the opponent isn’t careful I can get hit re rolls on overwatch. They do very well against space marines and decent against armor with the lethal hits. They can knock out a smaller knight in one valley quite often with AP-2 and Dam 2. Heavy Lokhust with gauss can be awesome when they go off, but with them hitting on 3 s you cannot rely on them. You can’t play them in Annihilation legion there is no synergy. They are best in Hypercrypt to get the line of sight and re-rolls.

[@Lothrean]

I agree with the video. The only problem are the big bases. Often it is hard to find line of sight for every model in the unit. On WTC terrain that becomes a huge problem and I actually tend towards skorpekhs there now. LHDs don't have so many models, so it is not that big of an issue for them. Skorpekhs are way worse against higher toughness, but are able to move around on WTC terrain way better and have a little more objective pressure potentional. With that being said: The lokhust destroyer won me the last two 20/0 tournament game results almost by themselves. One time oneshotting the Avatar of Khaine and one time oneshotting a nurgle demon prince. Both with the ignore modifier rule from the silent king.

[@DaBlueIghuana]

I just wish the normal LDs were easier to access, because they seem really good rn and I can’t get any. Even better would be some new models

[@Planet40K]

Yeah they need an update Reluctant to buy more

[@SuperBibien]

Lokhust Destroyers. 2 units of 3 in hypercrypt. Or a unit of 6 + lord in Awakened Dynasty (to have them lead by a character)

[@NezrahX]

I love them. I need more to try out my list of 3 wraith squads and 3 destroyer squads, awakened dynasty with 1 squad of skorpekhs to rapid ingress.

[@frogsterlicous7040]

Their better at different things. Heavy destroyers on your best turn and a poor roll from your opponent can just snag 18 wounds off any big units for a low price of 150pts and you can run 9 of them for 450pts any mess up with the opponents vehicles and monsters will just be destroyed. Light Destroyers are head and shoulders better at wiping out any infantry with their ability. Just run both Annihilation Legion isn't good for Lokhusts so their better in every detachment but Annihilation Legion meaning they are viable in every detachment.

[@es83stevenson88]

If I want to run a destroyer heavy list I run them in hypercrypt. You can relocate to line up shots or get in close to do cc.

[@Crowover]

Yah but which one looks cooler is the real question and the only answer I care about

[@Planet40K]

lhd

[@avlaenamnell6994]

lokhust lord with the deepstrike relic in hyper crypt sounds like a fun way to keep these people mobile, as they are mounted so cant use the monoliths eternity gate.

[@DaneInTheUS]

Ooh been looking forward to this! Thank you!

[@DaemonPrinceGaming]

I like both.

[@Planet40K]

Same

[@supremecourt4131]

I think LDs are more versatile but that being said i love playing 3 LHD in combination with the Lord and the DeepStrikeEnhancement so i can use CosmicPrecision for my VoidDragon or Nightbringer while dropping my 3 LHD 9“ to 18“ away from a infantry Unit which is holding an objective

[@clementcate4730]

I sort of like them both equally, the HD are just especially good at removing their preferred targets, whereas LD are good at hurting anything, really. More flexible, less optimal. They occupy slightly different niches. If your prefer flexibility at the cost of actual efficiency, LD it is. I like my HD not gonna lie :D Even without a lord they are just too good at removing their target. My personal preference is to delete the units im targeting, i would rather not leave just a few models or a bunch of wounds because my rolls are slightly off, which is a higher risk with LD units. So f i HAVE to chose, i chose HD! But if had the LD i would field them all together, i like what they do for sure :3

[@MyDestany]

they are a main stay in my list. a 6 man is great at clearing all but swarms a 3 man supports anything and a 1 man is cheap actions/objectives. no reason not to take them. been saying that sence the beginning of 9th.

[@diditokatena6350]

мне понравилось то что мои 6 лд с1 лордом быстро расправились с зомби Нургла с 2х20 штук а отряд 3 лхд ( Гаусс) с 1 лордом вынесли "комбайн" Нургла но что мне не понравилось так это то что у Лакуст Дестроиров только своя родная защита на +4 как защититься от "мельты" ? потому что 2 "комбаина" стреляли мельтой и вынесли 3х хлд

[@jameswebb4545]

No good detachment? Awakened Dynasty is great for Lokhusts!

[@Planet40K]

Was referring more to destroyers as a whole and slandering GWs attempt at trying with the annihilation legion

[@jameswebb4545]

@@Planet40K Very fair

[@lucadesimone4072]

if pitting the destroyers against the heavyes, wouldn't it be fairer to pit them against the destructor ones?

[@Planet40K]

Nope as they are damage 6 anti tank

[@livingdeadgirl40k]

not using them much bc I doont like the models, but they seem to generate some saltyness in the opponent 😁

[@Planet40K]

Hey not heard from you in a while. Hope everything is well,

[@livingdeadgirl40k]

@@Planet40K had health issues, but slowly able to get back to "normal" life. picking up again on hobbies like Warhammer and DnD. Happy to be back trying to pick op stuff 10th edition now

[@Planet40K]

Onwards and upwards. 🙂

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[@Planet40K]

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[@lloroshastar6347]

No!

[@majormojo9830]

No

[@jasonmartinez1948]

You know Lokhust Destroyers can come in units of 6 right?

[@DaneInTheUS]

He LITERALLY mentions this less than a minute in, and explains why he's comparing to 5 ...

[@Planet40K]

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[@NezrahX]

Please stop telling people to reroll everything when it doesnt math. Only reroll a hit roll if your you are going to wound on a 6+.

[@Planet40K]

Why would you not reroll everything with lethal and 5+ criticals…..

[@jaesistich3218]

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