Are Your Beauty Products Safe? The Real Science of “Toxic” Skin Care with Dr Michelle Wong

[@marias.5645]

This is an Avengers level collaboration to me!

[@DrKaran]

Haha science avengers

[@7663226]

It truly is!! It's amazing to see the two people I watch collab on a video!

[@LivingWithGout]

It’s sad to see professional experts doubting their own knowledge, while fools are so sure of their stupidity.

[@kspade1788]

Real professionals know their self limitation. Thats why never listen to fools or arrogant doctors who are "SURE" they can't be wrong.

[@pronayghosh]

No way! Two of my favourite medical youtuber in one!

[@DrKaran]

This was an awesome episode!

[@GoldenKoiFish]

Same reaction!

[@christinelindberg-gilhus1590]

My thoughts exactly!

[@ana-mariazait1800]

Yes! I'am grateful for these two amazing humans. ❤

[@yukisnoww]

@@DrKaran HOLY, didn't expect this, it just seems...right.

[@itchysheets1222]

Have watched Lab Muffin Beauty Science for a long time, LOVE HER!!

[@DrKaran]

She’s excellent!

[@NeoUno866]

I’m currently studying Chemistry with Medicinal Chemistry, might have never come across Dr Wong if not for this! Thank you!

[@DrKaran]

Welcome!

[@rechellegissane1424]

Dr Wong is our Aussie legend!❤🐨❤🦘❤ 🇦🇺 Michelle makes scientific facts super easy to understand with her awesome down to earth analogies that are often humorous. So glad you have discovered Dr Wong 🙌😊

[@snestah]

Two of my favorite people on KZbin!

[@DrKaran]

:)

[@mysteryegg340]

I bought a serum a couple of months ago that was described as ‘Botox in a bottle’. It was Argireline. I’ve been using it for two months (have a little bit left) and there is literally ZERO change in my skin. I was going to buy more to give it a bit longer but after watching this, I don’t think I’ll waste my money.

[@DrKaran]

Good plan!

[@Jennyonthehill7035]

Nooo! I've just bought some. Dammit. I hate science sometimes 😅

[@luckyyyinlove]

@@Jennyonthehill7035It does work. The irony is that people expect dramatic change in 1 bottle. You need to be consistent and go through many bottles. Also, wrinkles are better improved with other ingredients. That ingredient just mildly disables your muscles. Skincare only works if you’re consistent and are willing to invest your money into it.

[@kappleby8503]

I’ve forgotten his name but that man behind Mad About Skin has a clip about Botox in a bottle that I have not watched.

[@yogarcia6066]

@@kappleby8503 Yeah Rob

[@sharekpain9303]

TWO OF MY FAVOURITE, TRUSTED PEOPLE FOR HEALTHCARE ADVICE AND SKINCARE. I ABSOLUTELY LOVED THIS COLLAB GOD BLESS YOU BOTH!

[@DrKaran]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@yibambe356]

@@DrKaran would you consider posting you're blood work and maybe clarifying other parameters of you're health. I'm sure you implement a lot of what you speak about ....would be great to see the results🤔👍.

[@erinsirohi5631]

Omg!! This is a match made in heaven!! I’ve been following her since her blog came out over a decade ago! This is a brilliant video to share with the world - thanks Dr Karan!

[@DrKaran]

Welcome!

[@rosemangofairy]

It's crazy how Dr. Youn the American plastic surgeon blocked Lab Muffin, after her correcting his wrong information on a skincare ingredient... Meanwhile Dr. Karan here is out here inviting her out to educate us all in this interview. I think doctors get a lot of bad reps sometimes as high-ego professionals who never admit they're wrong, but Dr. Karan has shown himself to be such an incredibly humble, knowledgeable and fantastic doctor. Glad I subcribed to him 😊💛💛

[@hopelesshaddy3332]

Thanks for this video, I was going down a rabbit hole in social media glamorizing all kinds of extreme skin-care and this video stabilized me a bit. Thanks again

[@DrKaran]

It can all get a bit much!

[@_negentropy_]

Yaaaay! Thanks so much for having Dr. Wong on your podcast!

[@DrKaran]

She’s awesome

[@_negentropy_]

@@DrKaranx a zillion!

[@becsutherland4506]

Dr. Wong is a fantastic source of impartial and factual information. Great collaboration.

[@DrKaran]

She is!

[@okiewowzerswow]

Im so excited to watch this one!!!!! Labmuffin is sooo cool!!!!!

[@DrKaran]

She is !

[@kagitsune]

THANK YOU for inviting a real skincare expert on your show!

[@babygrill01]

The chapters/timestamps are incredibly useful. Thank to you/whoever put them

[@thumbsarehandy.]

I second this! If it wasn't for the chapter titles, I would have stopped watching 1/4 of the way in! Knowing what discussion and information is coming is so helpful! Especially when referencing at a later date.

[@thumbsarehandy.]

Dr. Karan, you are exceptionally skilled at interviewing! Thank you for keeping the poscast informative and letting the guest talk!

[@DrKaran]

Of course - gotta let them talk otherwise it wouldn’t be a great podcast haha! But thank you :)

[@jonathanfoster4202]

Thank you for giving Dr. Michelle Wong a larger platform to speak on! She cuts through so much viral bs and debunks all sorts of online fear mongering. Such a great source of reliable scientific information

[@christinelindberg-gilhus1590]

As a subscriber of her aswell, Dr. Karan and Dr. Wong, yes! Was so excited to see this collab! 😍

[@DrKaran]

Hope you enjoyed!

[@ruthobrien4765]

OMG the ultimate two for one labmuffin and Dr Karan on the screen together. Dreams really do come true 🎉🎉❤❤❤

[@DrKaran]

Heheb

[@dominiquedcosta]

Omg yeay! Dr Michelle and Dr Karan together discussing sciencey things 🤩

[@DrKaran]

:)

[@emediongnamkere8056]

Yes...💃💃 Two of my favorite KZbinrs teaming up to create this beautiful and educative video.❤

[@lakshaysiwach3652]

Thank you for doing this type of content it really helps a lot to make better decisions and understanding

[@DrKaran]

Welcome, enjoy!

[@angyeliz]

Great collab, love Michelle!

[@DrKaran]

She’s awesome!

[@zanzabar7878]

Love your interviews, very useful. Also thank for for including chapters, personally i don't watch any interview that doesnt have them, and wish more had them.

[@jyotisukhnani3235]

The collab we’ve all been waiting for!

[@DrKaran]

Yessir!

[@pampoovey6722]

What a lucid, informative chat. I really appreciate both you guys fighting the good fight about health nonsense.

[@darkydoom]

In Perth Western Australia I don't think the UV index is ever low (1-2). It's winter here and still 5.6! So as someone with olive skin, I avoid the sun, have clothing for driving, and save sunscreen for "a day outside" and covering my tattoos religiously. The untattooed skin can get more sun and I generally won't burn unless it's high rating, but still, prefer to just cover and protect. Don't need a whopping hole from melanoma

[@yibambe356]

@@darkydoom you guys have one of the highest skin cancer rates in the world. Especially among the non natives. Adaptation takes time I guess.

[@Mynervas]

Oh I LOVE her videos! Awesome team up

[@DrKaran]

:)

[@swordswordsdev]

2 of my favorite doctors who fight misinformation :D woohoo!

[@DrKaran]

:)

[@drawanna3135]

I has about to purchase skincare products although i was a bit worried about the ingredients..I don't really know trust them so thank you for making this video, the timing could't be more perfect!

[@DrKaran]

Welcome!

[@MariaJimenez-ye9sn]

A fantastic podcast! I absolutely loved every minute of minute. Not a big fun of all those lotions and potions and sooooo simplified. I loved it. Thank you to both of you. Real information with no sugar coating. Just how I like it.

[@wendyhmochi7751]

What a great, informative episode, thank you. Not to mention that Dr Karan is a skilled interviewer, not talking over guests like a lot I’ve seen.

[@kellyofthehead]

I follow her for everything! She's just amazing! 😍

[@Flyguy6025]

Awesome information on skincare as we have more misinformation to gain views instead of a community.

[@DrKaran]

:)

[@fatine88]

This was a wonderful video. Michelle is a gem in the youtube space ❤

[@SomnusLucisCaelum]

And here I am, with my pile of Chinese and Korean beauty products on the shelf 👀

[@DrKaran]

Haha

[@shumi885]

YESSSSSS THE COLLAB WE WERENT EXPECTING BUT NEEDED!!

[@rolldecode]

FINALLY! The collaboration I have been waiting for!!

[@daniellecurtis6605]

Yay. Such an exciting collaboration. Love watching lab muffin.

[@DrKaran]

Fun podcast with her!

[@loventa]

I use Gabriel Cosmetics. Vegan, cruelty free, certified GF (I have celiac), and natural ingredients with no synthetic chemicals. I also use sunscreen. The only thing we make is lip balm since we can’t find affordable ones without coconut (I’m allergic to coconut). I was tempted to try to make my own deodorant.

[@arhamjain8751]

Me watching this video after ordering skincare products worth a 💍🌚

[@DrKaran]

Haha!

[@RedLya]

OOPP

[@KS-lf6gj]

Me too❤😂

[@LivingWithGout]

Return it.

[@user-ig3mj3tp9j]

Live within your means. U only need cleanser and moisturizer and then add from there to address ur specific needs. It's quite fun to learn about the different active ingredients and experimentation of adding it and removing it. There's also no real need to spend so much more money on certain brands. If u feel like treating urself and can why not BUT KEEP IT DEMYUR.

[@karimamckimmie]

I could listen to Michelle all day 🙏🏻❤️

[@darkydoom]

YAY!!! Lab Muffin Beauty ❤ go Michelle and Aussie scientists 🎉

[@christopherwilson7497]

I really love your podcasts they really are knowledgeable and a breath of fresh air knowledge is power without we do not learn thank you for these great podcasts.

[@DrKaran]

Science over sensationalism !

[@christopherwilson7497]

@@DrKaran thanks for the reply i am honoured that you have replied to my reply to your podcast.

[@hwon_oxo]

omg Dr Karan AND Dr Wong???? Lord has blessed us

[@DrKaran]

Enjoy!

[@7thCobweb]

it's simple: i see Labmuffin i click! 😍

[@martingundersen6164]

I love just listening to Dr Wong's voice, she's has such pleasant smooth voice, I've learned a lot from her chanel.

[@tinedanielsson1531]

2 of my favourites! Thanks to both of you!

[@unnahakala9372]

Love it ❤ I wish latest Huberman podcast about skin had an inch of the information from this but I guess it's too much to ask 😅

[@maalikserebryakov]

Huberman’s podcasts are all a waste of time iwnatched the Sinclair one and booberman didn’t even let him talk about the main subject of age reversal just kept yapping about Muh intermittent fastinf 🤓🤓

[@web3free]

This is the crossover I needed.

[@DrKaran]

:)

[@vickyvratti6652]

Goooo Dr Wong! I love,love ,love Michelle and her book is a mast read ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉

[@raitaamin956]

This video reminded me of everything I love about my degree

[@DrKaran]

:)

[@shadowgirl11]

I have been waiting for this crossover ❤️

[@DrKaran]

Haha enjoy!

[@Min-Taro]

May I also add that a lot of people who avoid wearing sunscreen also always claim that it blocks vitamin d synthesis. Most people can synthesize vitamin d with limited sun exposure while wearing sunscreen except for people with thalassemia which is an inherited blood disorder and often leads to vitamin d deficiency. In which case, burning yourself to crisp will not help, you'll only end up with burnt skin and still be vitamin d deficient. Should get a blood test to confirm and get vitamin d supplements.

[@yibambe356]

I guess when you say 'most people' or 'burnt to a crisp' you talking about light skinned people. Anyway rates of melanoma don't concern me. Non of my people ever had a problem with the sun.

[@MicaBlue-s2h]

Yay! I love both of you

[@DrKaran]

Danke!

[@reneeisabel1141]

I ❤ labmuffin, haven’t even watched and I know it’s gonna be a great ep 😌

[@DrKaran]

Let me know what you think!

[@gracied.3599]

Best crossover episode

[@DrKaran]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@NationalHooeyLeague]

Yes anti bs collab ❤

[@razia6046]

I was scared there for a moment and thought you think she is spreading misinformation. So glad.

[@Sherirose1]

People are trying to get me to train for Boxox injections. My conscience wont allow me. The money is excellent but my brian can't engage to sell my soul. Hey, if others are okay to do rhis job, no judging but im judging myself.

[@rosemary5005]

I love Michelle LabMuffin 🥰👍👍🌼🌼

[@jalvarez2777]

love this combo

[@yyyy622]

Love lab muffin and her book is great!

[@DrKaran]

She’s great!

[@flyygurl18]

Awesome collaboration!

[@a.wonttellp1791]

Can we get the document/ link to that australian sun exposure guideline in the next "Dr Karans weeky dose" please? 🥺

[@DrKaran]

Absolutely

[@DrKaran]

I’ve made a video about it , can find it on insta. In fact my recent reel about this had the study details

[@svetlananana9609]

Yiheee❤❤🎉 about to watch 2 folks that are up to date with facts. Love your science communication and medicine communication to the public Aahhh😊😊😊 Aaa

[@DrKaran]

Enjoy! :)

[@ayshanusrat3509]

We need Dr Eric Berg here for the topic of sun exposure

[@eevahaapala5991]

What about dr Alexis Cowan and her work in red an uv light benefits?

[@zrinka1972]

Thx. ❤️

[@dellmktr4152]

I wonder if face serum is really beneficial for the skin/ does what it claims. And also castor oil.

[@georgerubio6317]

POWER DUO ❤

[@kyliessave8454]

Dr. Muffin, yeah!!

[@DrKaran]

Haha! Doc muffin indeed

[@wrathc53]

Lab Muffin!!! 🙂🙌

[@a.wonttellp1791]

About the toxicity of absorbed products... Is the retentio in the body also included in these studies? I mean 2% or 6% might not be harmful but if it's a substance that just doesn't / only very slowly get filtered out by the body and u use it on a daily basis that percentage should add up to maybe even a more serious percentage.... right? Edit: The same question could also be asked about fungicide and similar stuff on food btw😅

[@thegreaterconundrum]

Yes, as Dr. Wong pointed out you can actually look up some of the assessments toxicologists do, but bioaccumulation is a very very very important element in toxicological testing.

[@sofia_c_1]

Yeah toxicologists actually found both things exist (against what the industry wanted them to say) and have been studying (and fighting for regulation) for decades. I would trust them to do what their entire job description says they do, but you can look it up a lot of it is on the web, even some channels, you can also look up how passionately they hunt down people who have gone against the ethos of their profession and basically deal with them themselves (so like in academic circles) because the government doesn't take them and their concerns seriously. Lovely people. The opposite of politicians and cops.

[@user-ef3vu8jy7c]

Interesting 😊

[@ivegotchu]

i feel so dumb just calling her michelle even after watching her so long

[@saniainez]

Here's a funny thing, he created a clip of this podcast out of a QUESTION. HE POSTED A QUESTION (26:26) AS "DOCTOR EXPLAINS". Look, he is not wrong in _most_ of what he said there. Darker-skinned people can wear less sunscreen and lower SPF, *but* him saying "7 or 8" is... No. As she said, it is much better to rely on vitamin D supplements rather than the unstable weather. You did not include that in the video. You just said "Caucasian needs sunscreen every day but darker-skinned people only need sunscreen at 7-8 UV index"

[@telperionmo0n]

Can anyone find the 'Inky Dakota' app Dr. Michelle mentioned? I found the Cosmile app but not this one. Thanks in advance!

[@meganwalker27]

INCIDecoder - hope that helps!

[@raraavis7782]

​@@meganwalker27 Thanks for translating, I didn't get it, neither...😅

[@cow6969]

initially, i thought he was framing the questions rly weirdly? like these r sounding kinda super biased & lack nuance? then like 10min in then i realised he's just regurgitating the nonsense online, & not that he actually thinks that way 😂😂😂

[@SRDW6]

The subject of microbiome should have been developped. We have discovered lately how essential microbiome is to our gut and its impact on our physical and mental health, it must be the same for our skin, our largest organ, on its health and appearance, nature does not make any mistake, skin microbiome has a purpose. What is the impact of excessive cleansing, excessive layering (organic or chemical) on our skin microbiome (since products use preservatives to kill (good and bad) bacteria? Having said that, I guess that a "good" skin microbiome differs from one individual to the next, like our gut microbiome.

[@cheriestolze]

Oooooo!

[@darkydoom]

Dr Karan, your red room is giving Vadar feels 🔪

[@_DROM_]

"Correlation not equal to causation" is what I say to people, just to find out they don't understand the difference between the 2 😮 Politicians love to use correlation and sell it as causation Great video, guys! 🤩😍

[@RedLya]

YESSSSS!!! (*^▽^*) MICHELLE! So Proud of her 🥹☺️

[@meganwalker27]

💛💛💛

[@BartekKowalski-qi4rj]

👍👍👍

[@jdwcreate]

🎉🎉🎉

[@DrKaran]

:)

[@Jay.B.2046]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@ryanpriye1402]

15:47 does anyone know what he said? I can’t figure it out.

[@thegreaterconundrum]

Psoralens

[@didopop8877]

🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

[@emilyh50]

I don't use any products on my face. I wash my chin with soap in the shower. No makeup. No sun. I'm 50.

[@maalikserebryakov]

bald jeet coping with a cap lol Take it off jeet

[@maalikserebryakov]

Send bob and Vegene saar😊

[@monsitime9370]

Bring Dr. Dray instead ❤

[@thegreaterconundrum]

Dr Dray is a dermatologist; Remember that dermatology focuses on the treatment of skin, while cosmetic chemists are better suited for discussing skincare and ingredient function. Dr. Dray would not have had nearly as much training on this topic as Dr. Wong.

[@darkydoom]

Dr Dray would gather their knowledge from scientists like Dr. Wong.

[@dhoot_bhoot2578]

An unexpected collab ,but i'm all for it 🫶🏼

[@DrKaran]

Hehe