Aston Martin Valkyrie - Silverstone Record - CLOSER LOOK

[@edmundfung]

3:10 It’s mind blowing that the Valkyrie can take Copse on road tyres at the same speed as a GT3 on slicks.

[@juniuschan3701]

now I want to see the Valkyrie with slicks followed by the AMR Pro with slicks on Silverstone, it would be great to see Aston push the limit with how their road legal + track only cars can compare to F1

[@davidajayi1207]

The Valkyrie cannot have slick tires as it uses 20 inch wheels at the front and I think 21 at the rear. Slick tires have a maximum of 18 in wheels. The brakes are too big for 18 in wheels. You would need car on carbon brakes but those are not road legal and do not last long.

[@n0ch91c3s]

​@@davidajayi1207which slicks have an 18" maximum? A quick Google showed Hoosier R7 with 20" sizes

[@MikeJoseph1190]

@@davidajayi1207 Wouldn’t the AMR track pack have to be on slicks? (Not the AMR pro, the AMR track pack without active aero). The car is capable of making 4,000 lbs of downforce which is way too much for the most advanced road tire. The track pack would have to come with slicks, and different rotors/brakes?

[@davidajayi1207]

@ idk probably, it’s not street legal anymore but idk

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

@@MikeJoseph1190 I don't remember if it has slicks but I know the suspension set up is different, I think the brakes are exchanged for carbotanium instead of ceramic and the aero, the front wing and the floor and ducts are changed. I have seen a few driving around on the road and they're all using Cup 2R's and you wouldn't really know the difference if not for the front wing and wheel arch vents.

[@leoa4c]

Another aspect to note is that the F1 and GT3 car does this on rubbered-in track. The Valkyrie did this on virtually green track.

[@samuelgarrod8327]

Irrelevant.

[@scordatura9259]

​@@samuelgarrod8327relevant

[@mikeiso8963]

@@samuelgarrod8327im curious how so? Doesn’t a rubbered in track give more grip? Or are you talking about the f1 and GT3 cars rules on power, aero, fuel etc limiting their ability compared to a road car?

[@zXPeterz14]

@@samuelgarrod8327can you expand on how track conditions dont impact a track record please

[@DWillis7]

I think if they ran the car on a properly rubbered in track with Cup 2Rs and the optional AMR Track Pack installed it'd be 5+ seconds faster no problem.

[@maz4304]

That Track Pack shaves 8% off lap times according to Aston, so more like 10 seconds if true. Crazy!

[@aswadsaswad1759]

But if the F1 car could run unrestricted, without fuel flow devices and using full revs and new soft tyres,.. it too would be 5 seconds quicker

[@toori6413]

​@@aswadsaswad1759cup 2R and optional amr track pack isn't the same as being unrestricted, they're still legal/within road car regulation

[@Jay-jb2vr]

Blah...

[@jamsbong]

The Adrian Newey effect is incredible.

[@abnfalcon3901]

One of many beasts created by the genius Adrian Newey. If that thing is competing up to F1 level, I just can't imagine how Fast RB17 will be

[@Shadowboost]

It's not even competing at LMP2 level

[@854gabryel]

You can actually imagine, and spoiler alert rb17 was not as fast as the Merc in 21 on Silverstone. Seems like there might be more than only one genius

[@shadowwsk3507]

It looks slow on board due to the early braking and twitchy steering inputs, but this proves that this car is indeed exceptional by matching gt3 grip levels(high speed only) with rosd tyres

[@utuberme1]

F1 lap record - 1:27.097 Moto GP lap record - 1:58.895

[@ejune98]

Finally a real hypercar that deserves its name

[@_bstr_ct1832]

With so much active aero, it’s a surprise to see oversteer in high speed braking while still having to work so hard to get the nose in at club corner

[@The_ZeroLine]

It’s just amazing that F1 cars go nearly flat through Copse corner.

[@zelcpavle5494]

And now we need the new RB road car that Newey was on board...

[@DevKumar-bi2ld]

Excited to see how w1 and f80 will perform compared to this

[@jansedlak8505]

They have no chance on this track. Totally different concepts. Valkyrie is super close to a race car and you can barely get into the cockpit. Maybe on the Nordschleife the F80 could reduce the gap. I wonder what is stopping Aston from making a lap on the Nurburgring.🤔

[@DevKumar-bi2ld]

@@jansedlak8505 let see, ferrari aerodynamic efficiency is outstanding, sf90 is the fastest road car at topgear and at angelessy tested by evo beating likes of gt2rs ,pista ,765lt, even when sportauto test the pista it clock 7min lap, only 2 sec slower than gt2rs, lap was done by same driver, I think it will be very close between f80 and valkyrie, As for the nurburgring aston martin lacks the skilled drivers like Marco and Kevin Estre which mercedes and porsche possess

[@jansedlak8505]

@@DevKumar-bi2ld SportAuto also tested SF90XX on the Hockenheim and it was slower than AMG GT Black Series, McLaren Senna and AMG ONE, beacuse it lacked the downforce and had narrower tires. I'm talking only about the SF90.

[@DevKumar-bi2ld]

@@jansedlak8505 let's be clear sf90xx is only a fancy token required for the f80 allocation, only 10kg of weight reduction which only comes with optional carbon seat is joke, and only 30hp increase in power, ferrari clearly hold back on sf90xx, giving it aero equivalent to senna and gt3rs with further weight reduction will make it to rival the halo car f80,plus I think sf90xx lap was sandbagg by sportauto ,only a second faster compared to 296gtb at hockenheimring is a joke , I am pretty sure sf90xx can do better than that, let's see if evo and topgear tests the sf90xx, which will showcase how it really stack up to the competition

[@jansedlak8505]

@@DevKumar-bi2ld F80 actually has proper downforce levels and bespoke, wide tires. Also that fancy Multimatic suspension. I was also surprised by the SportAuto's SF90XX lap, but I wouldn't say that they were sandbagging. Why would they? Maybe not enough preparation or those Cup 2R's were worn off after some tests.

[@muxiku]

What really slows down the Valkyrie are the tires Aston Martin decided to not make a custom tire with Michelin and instead use a standard cup 2 rs which can take a certain amount of load, so the Valkyrie has to bleed downforce at a certain speed to not overload the tires that coupled with the increase weight of the car which is more load for the tires so less max downforce, and you have a slower than expected car.

[@zontetaji506]

Great video

[@BSport320]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@augustortiz]

10 seconds faster than the JCR 2RS which is insane.

[@stuffedcrust4522]

Motogp lap record is 1:57.3 btw

[@CAM010BEEZY]

"Road car on road tires, turning into Brooklands @ 200+ kph" Tires: 🤬🤬 "high-level complaining" 😂😂 kudos to them for making this a reality.

[@zlm001]

Thanks.

[@mmessina4321]

Cool analysis, do you have any information what tires were used? Originally the test cars were all equipped with Sport Cup 2 while I saw some cars lately that came with Cup 2Rs. Depending on which tire they dis the run with there might be even more performance left to explore with more extreme road tires

[@K3b1bisLtu]

Aston martin should put racing slicks on it

[@slaughterer97]

Its was completed with the regular Cup 2 tyres, not the Cup 2R.

[@pierrekuchmann3944]

interessting video, i left a like

[@BSport320]

Thanks a lot!

[@bucketslash11]

next up would be to see the AMG One vs Senna vs Valkyrie at the same track at the same time, all 3 cars got announced around the same time so it is a logical comparison even if the Senna is a bit of a simpler track-biased roadcar approach

[@GTAracingUK]

Hey B-Sport, I see a lot of people comparing the Valkyrie to the AMG-One, but I think the Valkyrie is a class of its own, what do you think?

[@BSport320]

I think you cannot compare the two

[@creativeearthian1702]

Should do 6m10s at Nurburgring at most

[@kovarikristof3754]

Mishaa, though very experienced and certainly a talented driver, didi a 6:05 I believe in a simulator. Give the car the right suspension tuning, and setup, during summer time with a test driver at the wheel. The 6:05 is defo achievable

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

6:10 is very optimistic here. Personally I expect 6:35-6:40 stock on Cup 2R rubber. Maybe it could be significantly quicker, like simulations suggest but I think we are relying a lot on simulations and underestimating the effect the surface will have on the cars ability to have consistent grip over the lap. The car has active aero and suspension that already has its work cut out, dumping downforce so the tyres can make it through the lap. I feel like it will take the Cup 2R beyond their limits for the times you're asking here, the car is already traction limited at conventional circuits like Sakhir and Silverstone.. This is if btw, (which I doubt), if they can find a decent set up after all. Anything under 6:20 is calling for unrealistic conditions imo. I just don't think you can expect that same level for the Nordschleife but.. even if it's just to prove a point, I hope they try.

[@theracingban]

@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks its def quicker than that maybe not 605 but closer to 6:10 than 6:35 considering its specs compared to the amg one, lighter more aero and same acce

[@jansedlak8505]

I am still waiting for the new Valhalla. It might be DOA, but it will be the only Aston Martin supercar that you can normally get into and drive. It's also prettier than the Valkyrie.

[@einautofan6685]

...and Valhalla will be as fast as AMG One too!🤣👍

[@aaronsorensen5165]

It’s crazy an F1 car is 32 seconds faster than this.

[@thomasmatewe]

This car should lap the ring of hell Nürburgring Nordschleife .

[@sepg5084]

I think GT3 power restrictions are too much, to the point that road legal, emissions compliant cars are more powerful nowadays.

[@chrissmith4022]

I’d love to see how it compares with a Moto GP bike

[@R1j0hn]

If you watch Aston's official video, the driver missed the chance to use the ERS button for 5 seconds between 1min/7sec and 1min/12sec... 💯

[@fruhlingsbilder]

Let’s be real… a GT3 car is more comfortable and way cheaper than a Valkyrie. It’s not much of a road car when you can’t even talk to your passenger without a headset because the thing is so loud.

[@DonLee1980]

I doubt a GT3 car is more comfortable. The Valkyrie, you can drive to the track with it. You can drive it to car meets. You can't with the GT3 car. And besides, people who buy these, aren't worried about money. They want the experience. What you should be arguing is that a Mclaren P1 GTR wasn't even as fast as a Mclaren 650s GT3, and both are track only, and both are on slicks. One you can use to race in FIA certified races, the other, nothing.

[@MV-yp8il]

No the point Is a GT3 car has to follow the regulation. The power is extremely restricted, some cars like McLaren 720s from 720 hp of the Road car to the 510 hp of the gt3

[@DonLee1980]

@@MV-yp8il remove the air restrictor =)

[@test987665]

There is a big issue with comparing speedo speeds to GPS speeds. The fact that the Valkyrie speedo shows the same cornering speed as a GT3 car (which is much slower in the straight, but does a similar lap time) indicates that the speedo probably overreads a lot.

[@sandromartins20]

There's something else at play: braking. As discussed in the video, the GT3 car is able to brake substantially later and gains the time there. Lap time is so much more than just speed traps and Apex speeds... 😅

[@MikeJoseph1190]

@@test987665 Journalists were hitting 320 kph down the start finish straight at Bahrain according to the cars speedometer. Sport Auto clocked it at 300 kph GPS down the same straight. Still mind blowingly impressive for a road car, but I guess Newey feels the need to exaggerate his product as opposed to Mercedes AMG.

[@toori6413]

​@@MikeJoseph1190every road car has to have a speedo that overreads not just aston, it's legal requirements for safety reasons

[@MikeJoseph1190]

@@toori6413 Yeah I know (actually it can’t over read by over one tenth, and it can’t under read true speed) I would like to see what Turner does around a track with accurate telemetry though, this feels like false marketing again with this car. Mercedes AMG included telemetry on their record lap attempt that they recorded around the ring.

[@augustortiz]

This was all on CUP2’s and not 2R’s right? Insanity if so

[@jamarcus_OG]

It apparently was... I can only imagine how race track slick tires could improve times. I guess it could shave off at least 5 seconds or more. Just imagine : you can brake later, accelerate quicker and turn faster. Even if it's 0.2s per corner, at the end of the lap is worth around 4 seconds, and I think there's more to it. What a gorgeous car ❤

[@somecallmetim42]

Don't know if this is true but I read that it was on the new Cup 2 Rs but the track conditions weren't ideal, green and slightly damp in places and Darren Turner said he could certainly go a few seconds quicker with better conditions.

[@baraaamir7891]

Really makes u think how fast the amr pro is compared to an f1 car. Those who drove it say it's easily lmp1 level if not more savage but there is yet to be an objective test or analysis

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

The Laptimes it did at Bahrain was closer to LMP2 than LMP1 but that car has a conventional journalist/customer set up. With a more professional set up, I wonder how fast they can actually make it.

[@baraaamir7891]

@F1ll1nTh3Blanks I saw video posted by Mr jww driving with some pro drivers with the amr pro. And they said that it is wayyyy faster than an lmp2

[@RCmaniac667]

LMP2 time 1:43:404 LMP3 time 1:55:016 Valkyrie time 1:56:42

[@baraaamir7891]

@RCmaniac667 but the amr pro is track only version that is essentially a leman prototype with slicks wayyy more downforce and less weight. It's significantly faster than the standard valkyrie

[@RCmaniac667]

@baraaamir7891 ah i misread, thought you talking about the amr track pack. Amr pro should be 19 seconds faster to catch LMP1

[@cncit]

And to think the AMR pro is another level above the Valkyrie.

[@einautofan6685]

I don't care about Valkyrie AMR Pro!🤪 That car makes no sense! No Race Class to compete! Not street legal too! Completely useless! Valkyrie on the other hand IS ROAD LEGAL!😎👌

[@cncit]

The AMR Pro is a track day car with huge potential.

[@freyala024]

@@einautofan6685 The AMR Pro is essentially an unrestricted version of the initially cancelled LMH project, the new Valkyrie LMH is based on it, so its DNA will see some race action.

[@somecallmetim42]

@@einautofan6685 The AMR Pro makes much more sense. You'll never be able to fully exploit a Valkyrie on the road so you'll have to take it to a track anyway where it's limited by the road tyres so you might as well get a track only PRO with popper slicks. The mega rich who are the only ones able to afford cars like this have no issue in hiring a track and mechanics for the day. Road going Valkyries are just going end up sat unused in car collections.

[@chrisbackhouse5730]

The professional driver to set the lap time was obviously Lance Stroll...

[@RCmaniac667]

For real?

[@somecallmetim42]

@@RCmaniac667 Nope it didn't end up in the gravel trap and it was in fact Darren Turner.

[@poke0043moto]

That is insane. It’s closer to an f1 car than a gt3.

[@freyala024]

It really isn't

[@CITRUS--]

I believe the fastest GT3 time around Silverstone was set in 2022 and was a 1.56. The Valkyrie does a 1.56 on non slicks. So maybe it will get down to a 1.49 with slicks on. George Russel did a 1.25 this year at Silverstone. This car is factually closer to a gt3 and nowhere near an f1 car.

[@fabiansfish]

Seeing this, I’m wondering why they made the AMG One 😂

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

The AMG One did very respectable times around the Nordschleife and Hungaroring.

[@lovelehstuff]

​@@F1ll1nTh3Blanksnot to mention it's goal is bringing an F1 engine to the road not performance

[@CITRUS--]

The AMG one is a way better engineering marvel than this. This is literally just a race car with zero road refinement that barely passed legality for road use. Amazing vehicle for its purpose but let’s be adults here, the fact that you need to wear headsets to drive this on the road and have literally zero space for storage and your arms rub against your passenger cause the cabin is a tin can, and your 2 million dollar car doesn’t have a radio…. This and the AMG one aren’t in the same league.

[@schmoo99]

Yawn..

[@isaacbarbosa7593]

Who cares about a record at Silverstone? I want to see a lap at the Nurburgring.

[@vincentwong1477]

Disappointing for a car that claimed it is a F1 but only a GT3.

[@RCmaniac667]

LMP3 and LM GTE are a little bit faster. Also Renault Sport Trophy and Formula Regional almost on the same time