Atheist's Nightmare - God's Magic Banana Factory

You know your religion is in trouble when your argument for the existence of God is the convenient shape of a banana.
Nick Gisburne's response to Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron's homoerotic video "The Atheist's Nightmare".
www.gisburne.com/
Btw I'm not Nick Gisburne.
Kirk Cameron's video.
• Kirk Cameron And Bananas
[Links to articles stolen from Gnophilist's video Re: Abiogenesis, Speciation & Genes are us (1 of 2)]
On abiogenesis and the Urey-Miller experiment, from top peer-reviewed science journals.
- Published in Science, 1953: www.issol.org/miller/miller195...
- Published in Molecular Biology and Evolution, 2002: mbe.oupjournals.org/cgi/conten...
On abiogenesis, for laymen, from Duke University: www.chem.duke.edu/~jds/cruise_...
On abiogenesis and the RNA world hypothesis:
- "RNA-Catalyzed RNA Polymerization: Accurate and General RNA-Templated Primer Extension" (Science)
www.sciencemag.org/cgi/reprint...
- "Even peptides do it" (Nature)
www.nature.com/nature/journal/... .pdf
On the RNA World Hypothesis and abiogenesis:
- "Exiting an RNA World" (Nature) www.nature.com/nsmb/journal/v7...
- "Exploring the possibility of an RNA Word" www.nature.com/nsmb/journal/v6...
On speciation:
-*** "Genetic evidence for complex speciation of humans and chimpanzees" (Nature)
www.nature.com/nature/journal/...
- "Sympatric speciation in palms on an oceanic island" (Nature)
www.nature.com/nature/journal/... 566.pdf
"Ecological Speciation in South Atlantic Island Finches" (Science)
www.sciencemag.org/cgi/reprint...
* If you only have the time to read one article, please read this one. It was co-authored by Professor Eric Lander, genetic biologist at MIT who ran the GENOME project up until it's completion and is currently the head of the Whitehead Institute for Biomedical Research. His work enabled us to map all the genes in the human genome as well as the chimpanzee genome.
[/Gnophilist]
Primordial Soup's On: Scientists Repeat Evolution's Most Famous Experiment
www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chan...
Towards synthesis of a minimal cell.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/qu...
www.nature.com/msb/journal/v2/...
Prebiotic Soup--Revisiting the Miller Experiment
www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content...
Fossilised trees mystery solved
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/6568...
The Age of the Earth
www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-a...
Isochron Dating
www.talkorigins.org/faqs/isoch...

[@GoblinXXX]

I have to admit, when you held up that nanner the first time, I did gasp in fear a little.

[@davidpoirier8725]

I don't understand. If bananas evolved from pineapples, why are there still potatoes?

[@ElveeKaye]

"Is there a screw top?" *WHAM WHAM WHAM* XD Yeah, screw-top lids make me do that, too.

[@fenhen]

You should be a stand up comedian. I love all your videos.

[@ChaosmanOne]

Oh my crap that was the funniest damn thing I've ever seen. Great video dude.

[@FlowerChild65]

I find it ironic that they've chosen bananas of all fruit to make this argument. Bananas are not shaped like that naturally, they're forced into a curve. Also, most bananas are mutants and extremely engined because they are so popular that the supply no longer meets the demand naturally.

[@NicolaMonk]

I'm allergic to bananas, how do you explain that one? God just didn't want me to be nourished?

[@Nagual32]

You are back. happy to see you in the tube welcome back.

[@ElveeKaye]

"See? Non-slip surface." *clunk* "Shit." HAHAHAHA! This video has some freaky sexual overtones; but then, so did the original with Kirk Cameron. So, God made bananas to be easily opened and eaten, but coconuts require a freakin' machete? Great "design" God!

[@ethrocksranting]

That's so funny, you could hear the bananna sliding xD Awesome video as usual man. Thanks!

[@CedricCheAzeh]

How do you know the ridges are the wrong way round if there's just four ridges, and not 5?

[@laynix964]

That was great man!

[@CauchySchwarz]

(3 of 4) It's not just light that has wave properties, all matter has like humans. But since the wavelength is given by lambda=h/mv, Planck's constant(h) is so small compared to the momentum(mv) of anything humans interact with it's not noticeable, unless if we were able to get v close to 0. It's not shown that objects heavier than the Planck mass has wave properties. For this subject you'll have to do some study yourself.

[@Bakuninite]

Nostradamus is bollocks. He just wrote vague sentences that someone might be able to say are similar to something that will happen, but they are so vague that they are bound to be interpereted to anything.

[@CauchySchwarz]

(2 of 4) Quantum field theory says: The intensity of an electromagnetic wave of frequency [i]v[/i] gives the probability, and only the probability, that energy in the amount hv may be transferred between the wave and an external object at that point in space. The wave gives the probability of finding a photon. If you perform an experiment, trying to look at the wave you will interact with the photon which will give it's quanta and it's a particle.

[@CauchySchwarz]

(1 of 4) Not sure what the wave-particle duality has got to do with bananas and evolution. This is a topic that takes some years of university studies and pondering to grasp. In classical physics the (electromagnetic) wave property is described by Maxwell's equations. In quantum physics the solutions to Maxwell's equations gives the probability of detecting a photon. If you try to look at the photons it's a particle otherwise it's a wave.

[@HitodamaKyrie]

Indeed. That's what I said. Different species cannot interbreed, but we are a type of ape. Ape isn't a species.

[@Kimbert91]

seriosuly that guy with the coconuts has to be pretty confidant. Cause i'd constantly worry about slicing my own hand off. it didn't seem like he was far off a few times.

[@OXOFiniteOXO]

Such as humans don't try to use their face to burrow into a tree in order to find insects and such inside or to make some sort of shleter in the inside of a tree. (Woodpeckers) We lack the ability to eat grass out right as our digestive systems can't process and digest the tough poly-saccharides found in grass stalks. Cows can't either, but their digestive systems contain bacteria that break it up for them.

[@fenderman21guitar]

haha when he got the pineaple and went wow god, you really fuked up ere dint u, that made me piss myself

[@Justin_WithThreeDots]

God that guy makes me nervous with the knife

[@CauchySchwarz]

When did anyone lie? There are several different methods of dating the fossils if the dates don't converge or if the sample is contaminated it's not used.

[@razeezar]

Ledwix: Did you watch the whole thing? You know the argument against God goes much further than cultivated fruit. To accuse him of having no better argument than this is a 'Strawman' of your own. But then you're just a kid, so I'll carry on picking on people who should know better at their age.

[@ActiveH1N1]

Seems like your solution is to flip sides and grip a bit tighter

[@OXOFiniteOXO]

Please enjoy my long message. You'll have to read it form the first one on up through, which incidentally, it seems the first one posted is on the bottom.

[@5688gamble]

The one I like to use is the comparison of a modern car to a giraffe. If you look at a modern car with it's ECU you will notice cables running direct from the unit to the components it is controlling or monitoring, they follow short paths and don't take unnecessary, now look at the well designed giraffe, it has a nerve called the recurrent laryngeal nerve, another God fuck up. Instead of running it straight from it's branch of the vagus nerve it runs over 4 m down and around the aorta, where it could be easily damaged or damage a major blood vessel. Or the coconut, only thing on a desert island you can drink but try opening one without tools, also, it is a laxative, so when I wash up on an inhospitable island, I can thank God for his wonderful bounty (get it, coconut, bounty.)

[@UtopiaLtd]

The banana was designed...by humans. Take a look at a wild banana, it's freaking full of seeds.

[@CauchySchwarz]

One topic: Please give the answer to the question about ascorbic acid, enlighten me.

[@HughJardon69]

Christmas was a Pagan holiday too also.

[@averagebear1]

HAHAHA I couldn't stop laughing - but you have to admit, the pineapple makes a lovely headress.

[@CauchySchwarz]

Look in the description for: "Primordial Soup's On:..." What is more complex amino acids or a God? If you think the probability of amino acids forming is low then what about God. I've answered your questions you haven't answered any so far, the age of the Earth for example.

[@coladict]

"God, ya really fucked up on this one." LMAO

[@sabertooth1980]

And Cucumbers. Don't forget cucumbers.

[@pchtermino1]

Perhaps they should do their homework before posting. The following is from Banana.com Bananas do not grow simply from seed. Man intervened long ago and crossed two varieties of African wild bananas, the Musa acuminata and the Musa baalbisiana, got rid of the many seeds that were an unpleasant presence, and improved the flavor and texture from hard and unappetizing to its present soft and irresistibly sweet flavor.

[@Lagomort]

I am allergic to bananas

[@khallex7352]

Actually the banana was created by "god" that god is called humans. The banana was designed by humans.

[@Bakuninite]

I dont recall a King of Terror in Sept 1999, and he is obviously reffering to Mars as in the Roman God of War, as in, the non-existant king of terror from 1999 will be very warlike. However it is very vague, which allows sensationalist people to say that "oh, this is exactly about the mars rover" when it really isnt about anything at all.

[@tobeface]

Nice vid MiyasmaTube, Carl Sagan was no atheist. He definitely did not believe in the Abrahamic version of "God", but that does not equate to him being an atheist. He proclaimed to be agnostic.

[@CauchySchwarz]

Evidence for the age of the earth: City of Jericho was founded 8000 BCE. Old rocks dated to ~3.8 billion yrs by several methods some containing minerals dated to ~4.1. By using Pb/Pb isochron dating methods of terrestrial and meteorite samples, the solar system formed from a common pool of matter, were dated to an age of 4.21-4.59 10e9 years (Dalrymple). Lets hear your evidence for a 6k Earth, and please explain this discrepancy of >10e6 orders of magnitude.

[@XChillX42]

Is he from sheffield?

[@HitodamaKyrie]

What is aware? At what point do we define that a conscious mind is self-aware? Many creatures exibit behavior once thought to be strictly human. Consciousness is merely a phenomenon of a higly developed brain. In truth, there is no self-awareness, but merely a perception of it. Everything you experience is a complex simulation of stimuli meant to allow you to better navigate the world.

[@Pottan23]

it's a parody... the real video is in the related tab...

[@molewizard]

Is that original video serious? Oh my God... >_>

[@todddogg7817]

This is fucking comedy gold

[@robertemmerick1900]

Many types of Onions and yes many people can and do eat onions fresh. Yes All these Fruits and Vegetable 🥒🍆 Come from a Seed and when placed in Good Soil will grow once the seed decays the Seed is an amazing creation of God, Engineered and Designed to Produce.

[@HappyWulf]

That was fun. ^.^ *bang bang!* fuckin pineapple!

[@HitodamaKyrie]

Science is the study of phenomenon.

[@jknightxx]

the fact is,the wilds equivilent to our cultivated banana looks very little like are banansas as we know it today. This guy should have done a bit of research about bananss before he posted this vid.

[@drstrangelove09]

Well, now I'm no longer an atheist!

[@CauchySchwarz]

"How does a destructive 'big bang' theory produce positive life fool?" Big Bang doesn't produce life do not confuse Big Bang, Abiogenesis and evolution. How does your competing model explain the cosmic background and the redshift?. For a theory to be taken seriously it must explain those things better, if you're sitting on this knowledge please write a paper and send it to a peer reviewed journal and you'll have a Nobel prise coming your way.

[@sptfgpn]

I always think God did rather well with the avacado.

[@OXOFiniteOXO]

I mean not long like a Foot long, or a Meter long... more like a millennia long. We know that mutations occur NOW and TODAY, evolution was based off the premise that some mutations ARE beneficial, while others aren't, such as longer than normal fingers would make it easier to type or play the piano, possibly, as well as allow you to grip things better.

[@CauchySchwarz]

"Why is the whole world God-conscious fool?" Because people need something to explain what they don't understand, also it's a opium for and a great tool to control people. Temporal lobe seizures and drugs is other explanations. "How do we discern right from wrong fool?" Luckily we do not get our morals from the bible. "What you do not wish upon yourself, extend not to others." - Confucius (ca. 551--479 BCE)

[@CauchySchwarz]

brett if you don't stop trolling I'm gonna start deleting your one-liners and if you continue I will block you. There's alot of links in the description for you to read. Argument from personal incredulity isn't a valid objection.

[@scienceminded]

*pulls out pineapple* UBERLOL!!

[@themathguy]

Yeah, I think it's pretty obvious to everyone that the banana argument is a stupid argument (or I would hope at least!)

[@grayintheuk8021]

Just seen this some 15 years later - still funny, That Ray, still peddling round on a bike spouting his nonsense 'claims'! Thanks.

[@OXOFiniteOXO]

and take their beneficial mutation on with them to their children who then will take it on further. A couple thousand generations later, you have an organism that was based off a previous existing one, but is far mroe adaptable and it is easier for them to survive in their enviornment. The banana arguement WAS stupid. Besides, the banana?

[@inthefade]

good one.

[@CauchySchwarz]

@brettlutchman Nope my own words from memory (except quantum field theory def), and as such it probably contains errors. Those formulas is taught in high school, nothing fancy nowadays. but probably not included in "creation "science"". I didn't explain something that science can't explain, and I'm not claiming that I (or anyone else) understands it but it works. ...But I'm getting the feeling that you're not the one to judge on any scientific topic, oh enlightened one.

[@SpunkySkunk347]

Are those sexual innuendos in this video intentional? And I don't see this as a valid argument at all. Mercury may be inherently fun to play with, but if god made it so fun to play with, why is it dangerous? Also, were you aware that before humans began breeding bananas that they were MUCH smaller and thinner? The fact that bananas were bred to give the "god given features" not only dispproves your arguement, but also supports evolution.

[@FlowerChild65]

@conor1148 I know. I commented before it was over.

[@AndrosRex]

This is very silly. I was laughing the whole time through, just like at the other one. The silliest part, though, is that he took the first one seriously. Imagine three sports fanatics. One says to his friend " The Cleveland Browns couldn't beat their own great grandmothers. " A bystander then makes a television documentary conclusively proving that the Browns could in fact beat their great grandmothers. Isn't this, maybe, even sillier? P. S. You know a pineapple is ripe when the top pops off.

[@OXOFiniteOXO]

I like to respond to anything and everything. No matter what "side" it may be on. I like to put out facts, such as, the US us a laughingstock of other nations not for our religious beliefs but because we still use Customary Units, while the rest of the world has switched to the easier unit system of Metric. We still teach kids in school the Customary system, but then must teach College students and upper level high school students Metric in order for them to pass chemistry and natural sciences.

[@Rabit561]

9:43 XD

[@OXOFiniteOXO]

but other harmful mutations can cause disease, or not allow soemthing to live that in all cases should have except for some fatal mutation.Evolution is the idea that Beneficial Mutations will prevail over harmful ones, and as the harmful ones die off, the benefitted mutants shall live on,

[@Bakuninite]

Good comeback, you supersticious fop.

[@CauchySchwarz]

Easy? I have supplied you with a bunch of articles in the description of this vid. If you don't understand it or it goes against your faith isn't gonna change the facts.

[@OXOFiniteOXO]

The banana you eat NOW is not the banana they ate back then. That cross section cut of some ugly fruit with large black seeds in the middle of it? That's a true banana that has not been engineered with. It's the NATURAL Banana. "Wild" Banana, "Organic" Banana "[other stupid made-up marketing adjective]" banana. Either way, I doubt you could get a Banana, "natural" or desert banana, to grow in say.. Ohio in the Winter. Otherwise, yeah, you can make many things grow year round. Hence Greenhouses.

[@jknightxx]

no

[@NickyTannock]

Hang on, only one type of man? That dosn't sound right.

[@Bakuninite]

marked as spam within 10 seconds...tisk tisk. Belief in supernatural sensationalist prophesies like those of nostradamus is a form of escape from reality. I think I can escape from that form of escapism simply by having an ounce of logical thinking.

[@Danovio]

Have anyone seen about the other athiest nightmere, a jar of peanutbutter :)

[@trickmaster616]

Well, thank Satan, the all powerful man I don't believe in for relieving me of stupidity.

[@CauchySchwarz]

"How did life begin fool?" You said you enlightened people yet you tell very little of substance. Miller/Urey Experiment showed that the building blocks of life (amino acids) can arise under conditions similar to those of the early earth, and easily to. Or perhaps panspermia. "Why are you insistant on going to hell fool?" Where is this place again? Sounds like a mythical story of some ancient tribe.

[@CauchySchwarz]

Good point I'll rephrase; a God who.. ..is responsible for the complex structure of the world ..has given humans an immortal soul ..interacts with humans, miracles ..created the universe ..fine tuned the universe for us ..shows himself in revelations ..is the source of morality ..is omniscient, omnibenevolent and omnipotent doesn't exist. You're left with the Invisible Pink Unicorn.

[@OXOFiniteOXO]

Read a biology book, or two, or three before YOU go rambling or speaking out against such things without an ... how would YOU say it? Oh, right.. "edumacation." I can forward you to some very good biology texts if you would prefer, if you want real sources. At the college I am currently studying at, there will be an entire 3 credit hour course on "Evolution" and I could get the name of the text that will be used. I would take the class if my schedule permitted. No, it's not about renouncing God.

[@OXOFiniteOXO]

Anyway, I think I have said my peice. I just want to leave you with one last tidbit... IN Genesis... in the bible, isn't god quoted to have said to Adam and Eve to go RE-populate the world? Yet... if they were the FIRST and ONLY... umm... how can they repopulate something? Maybe a mistranslation, maybe the prophet misheard god... either way, it's something to go look up and think about. Have a Nice Day.

[@CauchySchwarz]

No he's(I'm not the guy in the video) not saying God fucked up, God doesn't exist. He's saying the sweet banana has been mutated and selectively bred to our liking, by humans. You'll have to come up with something better than those mythical stories to convince anyone not already indoctrinated. "when you stand naked before him" What a strange thing to say, will it be like the concentration camps? Is your God a Nazi?. When you die you're gone, get over it, grow up, you only got one life.

[@foolsbetrippin]

was more fun when he bang banged the banana

[@Killuminati911]

hahahh

[@theletterm1787]

M

[@jknightxx]

banana hahaha! too funny. man cultivated the banana not god. \bananas as we have today did come from the wild ?

[@dave28lax]

Nice vid, but I still prefer the original. It's hard to improve on a comedy classic.

[@CauchySchwarz]

Urey/Miller and others showed how amino acids could form in a primitive atmosphere. It doesn't go away just because you're ignorant. Science doesn't work by taking the stupidest common denominator you now, if it was so we would still be in the dark ages.

[@Fancy_Clown]

lol true

[@OXOFiniteOXO]

Also, God could not have made eveyrthing from nothing. True, if he had the ability, he could make matter from pure energy as Energy is dimensionless, and therefor in theory an infinite amount can exist in ANY sized area, but it is impossible to make anything from nothing. As for Evolution? People think it is a joke as they can never see it in practice because it takes a LONG time..

[@Mizoreicewich]

@xcellken1 hahahaha This happend in my friends church that he brought me to. I wonder what would've happened if they didn't find out that i was atheist...

[@aj400ox]

Don't worry dude, The banana is probably the easiest example to use. I think oranges are good to eat but a pain to peel off all the skin. Im sorry for this dudes arrogant attempt to prove God's creation. You need to hear an argument from a much more educated believer I guess. I question alot of stuff too I still believe in him though.

[@CauchySchwarz]

Your questions lack both enlightenment and challenge. "How did the Amino Acids come from nothing fool?" The Miller-Urey experiment showed that amino acids can form. "How does panspermia come from nothing fool?" From somewhere else in the universe silly, you don't know what it is do you?. Highly more likely than "magic man done it".

[@RobDeManc]

Hey are you a manc?

[@sergiomarchelli]

So science is based on phenomenon? ;-).

[@billymodo]

Grief! All you atheists ever talk about is GOD!

[@CauchySchwarz]

@warriorprince1010 (I'm guessing you're an athesist making fun of fundies) Ever heard of logical fallacies?

[@OXOFiniteOXO]

I would suggest the same to you. tryna is not english, engrish, spanish, french, dutch, or of any other language I can think of (as far as I know). If you mean one should stop sounding like a 9 year old 'trying to' be witty at recess... then SAY THAT!

[@CauchySchwarz]

@brettlutchman Oh enlightened one, speak to us about radioactive decay. Fact: the Earth is 4.55 billion years +-1%, not just millions. I'll continue to answer you for as long as you're lying, which is common among YEC I've noticed. "For the wages of sin is death" Sooo no hell then for the sinners? Lucky i don't believe in that pile of rubbish.

[@CauchySchwarz]

I take it then that you've left the childish idea of a young earth, since neither you nor anyone else has put forth anything to support that claim. Not to talk about Noah imagine people still believe in that story 2007.

[@izzigogo]

This guy is FULL of it, non sense

[@robertemmerick1900]

Pineapple 🍍 you smell to see if ripe. Your funny 😂🤣 Notice the Pineapple is perfectly Designed and Engineered by God for it's purpose and is not a banana 🍌. Notice banana and pineapple create a good food source for both animal and man especially smoothies 😂 God Also numbered even portions throughout the pineapple 🍍when cut properly. This is more evidence of God's design in Creation.

[@Ramshobraja]

I'd respect creationists if they didn't bring up the stupidest arguments. If hey admit they believe out of faith ONLY then fine. Also, school is for science not god.