Attaching Molle Straps to Alice Pack

Here is a video on attaching the Molle straps to an Alice Pack. I have gotten alot of requests about how to do this, so I hope this helps.
You will need the Molle II straps, Waist belt and the Modular Sleep System Carrier (if you choose), the Alice pack and frame.
I tried to to this video quick to keep the time down, however if you have any questions comment or send me a message.
Thanks

[@Skills2survive]

Thank you for watching ! I hope this has helped you out. Please feel free to comment, like, share and subscribe.. Thanks again.

[@yukoncornelius8066]

building one alongside this video as we speak ! thanks for posting this 12 years ago ahaha !

[@thomasnugent7602]

Very informative and educational. Thank you very much

[@3charter]

Thanks Bro...I have the Rifleman pack and I hate it. This looks like a great way to make my old alice packs much more useful and comfortable!!!

[@paulstockmasterjr1777]

Thanks! you just got me through my final MALICE/Hell cat upgrade!

[@Skills2survive]

+Paul Stockmaster Jr Glad it helped. Thanks for watching

[@kevincollins6617]

Great video. I just upgraded the straps & belt on one of my ALICE packs. It was real easy. Now I have to do the other pack only I have the enhanced Molle II digital straps so that will take a little thinking. Thanks for the tips!

[@Skills2survive]

Thanks for watching.

[@makailavalu]

Thanks brother, am looking for one and now I see how to do it. Cheers bro!

[@Skills2survive]

Maka Ta'ufo'ou I hope it helps.. Thanks for watching

[@usmchs2993]

I also put the Molle plastic pack frame on the alice with molle kidney pad and shoulder straps. it's like a custom made system and comfy as hell to me...nice vid.

[@Skills2survive]

Thanks for watchign

[@Skills2survive]

@FutureOfUSMC They make it alot more comfortable. I would recommend them. Tactical Tailor offers some straps that are even thicker, however they are about $40.

[@RealitySurvival]

Good Stuff! Thanks for the tips!

[@Skills2survive]

Thanks for the share !

[@Quadrant14]

great thanks

[@TurtleBushcraft]

Great video I think I will have to do that to my alice pack

[@Skills2survive]

@3charter I had the same pack, and I too didnt like it. I kept going back to the old trusty Alice. This make it more comfortable and you can attach the molle pockets to it as well.

[@trangia12]

Thanks for your help.

[@alros1212]

hey man this is awesome, thanks for taking the time to do this. this is the hellcat mod, right? mad fucking impressive. I ordered one of these before I got out of the Corps just because of how much I heard about it.

[@Auszie]

For a little extra support, leave the O.D. Standard Issue belt ON and THEN put the MOLLE II belt on top of it. There is AMPLE room on those large oval rings to accommodate them both! It should also keep your MOLLE II belt from being stressed, improving your comfort level by not strangling your guts so tight to hold the load to you. Just FYI. Putting mine together now, have a lot more gear for my pack on the way too, including a brand new MSS and Carrier! =]

[@Skills2survive]

@classickbass Thank you. Yes, I saw his posting. He did and awesome job.

[@Skills2survive]

@GradeApe I am glad this helped you. Thanks for watching.

[@crrr83]

Sweeeet, thanks for the help.

[@Skills2survive]

@Auszie I will try that. Thanks.

[@bryceallen8317]

Great video. Interested in making my ALICE a hybrid with the Molle straps. Where did you get your straps from? I can only find tacky ACU pattern straps.

[@Texasoutback]

Thank you so much for this video. It really helped to make the Alice pack carryable for me. I will add that on the top straps I added two small caribiners to the allice hooks at the top, giving me a place to hook the top straps which you have tucked away. Just a little added security.

[@Skills2survive]

@CSXboy1 You can find the all of the items on ebay and military surplus stores online. The pack will usually run you $25-50, the molle straps $10-20, pouch $10-20, sleep carrier $10-25.

[@RestlessBear70]

I like the way you did that , I have been trying to find the molle waist belt and shoulder straps but am having a hard time. any ideas on where to find them?

[@palv9094]

Great video of the molle2 assambly..Is it possible to use the molle2 enhanced straps like you do in the video.Only with the molle frame 1609 or 1606?

[@robertingram3161]

Good video. I mounted my belt upside down to give me a lumbar pad.

[@Skills2survive]

awesome, i will try that.

[@uscgalpha91]

Hey thanks for making a great video. I'm 6'4 and the alice for me needs work. I think that this might be the answer. I travel all over the US and always have a alice in my trunk with bare essentials and a glock'

[@Skills2survive]

I am glad it helped. Thanks for watching.

[@Skills2survive]

I am glad it helped you. Thanks for watching.

[@Skills2survive]

@MrObveous777 That is up to you. I would get one with them, that way you have an extra pair.

[@Skills2survive]

@rainmechanic I have owned both. Personally, I would go with the Alice, belt and straps. I didn't like the Molle II pack.

[@Skills2survive]

@Auszie I am glad this video helped you. Thanks for watching.

[@shanewhetstone7977]

just about every set of straps now they separate the load lifters out and sell them for crazy amounts.

[@Jake.Rose.]

@charper3006 u can also get cheaper straps from allegheny surplus

[@Skills2survive]

Did you buy it like that or add them yourself? I have seen some packs with the molle similar straps without the frame, but they are not the same.

[@XtremlYDementeD]

I added them myself, i had them on a large alice pack/frame setup but wanted to go to a medium pack without frame so i just adapted them..

[@FedFire8404]

Kind of an old vid, but a good one. Fast buckles work better for ease of setup.

[@Skills2survive]

No. You cannot attach them to the pack without the frame. Thanks for watcthing.

[@ContraIsBased]

can you do a 2022 edition? the camera back then was kinda blurry,cheers!

[@scoutingfreegermany]

Hey thank you very much for the video. I just modified my AP with the Molle II straps and hipbelt. But I think there is a difference between Molle and Molle II (sorry I'm from Germany, so I'm not well informed in US Military-stuff). The Molle II shoulder straps have not such a middle strap to pull over the top of the frame, I had to wrap it over the middle of the frame. Have I done something wrong? Actually it works perfect, just wanted to know.

[@Skills2survive]

As long as it works.... Thanks for watching.

[@lowphoenix]

I just got my Molle straps in today but i'm missing the 2 load lifter straps and associated buckles. Any idea where I could find them online?

[@Skills2survive]

The ones i have are from the molle frame as well. I would try ebay.

[@Skills2survive]

Most of them are stiff. Its much more comfortable than the original, however it still lacks some padding IMO. I dont think you got a bad one.

[@GruntJoe0341]

I'm having trouble finding load lifter straps like the ones you show. I can only find the ones that are for the MOLLE frame. Know where I could get them?

[@Skills2survive]

Even with the Lumbar/hip belt on there?

[@Auszie]

Sucks there really isn't a way to double the woodland MOLLE II straps that come with the frames, with the MOLLE II back-padded straps... I might play around with mine to see if it can be done. That would be a HUGE improvement! BY THE WAY, THANK YOU FOR THIS TUTORIAL... WAS HAVING A HELL OF A TIME GETTING THE STRAPS ON LMFAO!

[@PKPreach]

Is there a way to attach the Molle straps to the Alice without a frame? If so, is it similar to the original Alice strap setup w/o the fre? Thanks!

[@rnaviglia]

Great video! Have you (or anyone else) tried this with a digital camo strap set? That's what I was able to obtain easily, but it took some experimentation and referencing to your video to attach it. The center attachment strap is different and that's where I had to figure out the best way to put it on the ALICE frame. It works well and it doesn't clash too bad with all of the olive drab like a desert camo assembly would!

[@Skills2survive]

I have not tried the digital camo. I am glad you like the video, thanks for watching.

[@kevincollins6617]

How did you do the Army digital shoulder straps? I bought one pair of digital and one woodland. The latter went one easy just like the video but the digis are different...

[@rnaviglia]

Kevin: Basically you will attach the shoulder straps the same way as the woodland camo assembly where he shows the mini straps holding it to the upper frame. The shoulder strap back pad will end up in the center and you will attach the horizontal straps on the back of it between the ALICE frame center crossbar and the ALICE pack back pad. Bring the free end of the Y-strap down and around the triangular bar on the ALICE frame on the left side (you're facing the waist pad) and pull it through it's metal buckle. That's all there is to it! -Ron

[@megadeth2thenwo]

i ordered the molle kidney belt but it's stiff and not that comfy did I get a bad one?

[@rainmechanic]

There is a guy on Ebay selling the Molle II plastic pack frame for 4.99... and he sells a complete setiup, Frame, Waist belt, and shoulder straps for 26.99 + 9 dollars shipping. What im wondering is is it better to get the complete Molle II pack frame or the Alice pack frame with the molle II belt and straps? Im need one of these to carry a used aluminum tree stand.. However it had no carry straps and Bass Pro near me wants like 25 bucks for some lame ass made in China shoulder straps.

[@MrObveous777]

should I get an Alice pack with no?

[@Skills2survive]

@lowphoenix Check ebay or you might have to order another set from a military supplier online.

[@cthulhu6697]

I've always wondered how A.L.I.C.E. clips work, exactly. I've always assumed it lets you attach more gear to your ruck, like a MOLLE from the past. I was thinking about getting a large ALICE pack in MARPAT CAMMO with 3 large pouches on the front of the 40 liter (approx) main pack with 3 more smaller pouches on the front under the flap because Coleman's milsurp catalog has them for a good price right now. I'm not familiar with the ALICE pack, but figured it would be worth getting a large ALICE pack since the world speaks very highly of them. Can I attach MOLLE pouches to it with ALICE clips, or even those M.A.L.I.C.E. clips which I assume work both with ALICE and MOLLE? If not, how could I use my MOLLE pouches on them without turning pouches to the side ( so my gear spills ) and attach MOLLE pouches to places more than just the front straps ( if I have to, I'll use gear snake, gear cobra, para cord, titan cord, nylon rope, slick sticks, or whatever, but what would you do?) Were you in NAM, and, if so, how could I use the ALICE system to it's fullest and what kinds of additional pouches and gear do they make for them? I can't seem to find ALICE pouches on any milsurp site and catalog and I assume U.S. soldiers and Marines had them. I realize this is a lot of questions to bombard you with, but in 45 years I'm still trying to figure how to use the ALICE system and it's attachments. Thanks if you answer.

[@Skills2survive]

Alice clips are just that.. clips. They are similar to a large locking paper clip. They allow you to attach pouches to your gear. Obviously Molle has now replaced Alice. You can attach Molle to Alice, it just won't be as secure as Molle. Molle is the way to go now. Much easier to use, attaches better, more secure. And no, I wasn't in Nam..lol... I way to young for that... lol 😂. I hope this helps...😁

[@cthulhu6697]

@@Skills2survive Thanks, bro. I wasn't expecting an answer so soon, guess we were online at the same time. Would you recommend the large ALICE to add to a prepper collection for his rucks. I hear of so many vetersns saying they always gravitate towards their ALICE packs, and lots of countries use them. Major Surplus and Survival even has a water/weather proof version and Coleman's mil surp catalog has what seems really nice in MARPAT camo. seems like a good ruck for patrolling my perimeter ( I live way up in the rural Great Smokies on the NC side of the NC/TN state lines) surrounded by woods in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by woods and mountains and zoned for livestock, so I shoot my guns and run my guns and gear regularly with no cops or neighbors for miles). In your opinion , is the large ALICE worth it for $60 for the MARPAT large ALICE? And where do I get the pouches designed for ALICE? Thanks, brother

[@Skills2survive]

$60 for a large Alice isn't bad. But you need the frame. The medium can be used without a frame although I don't recommend it. The large cannot. So make sure it comes with a frame. Then you need to upgrade the straps to the Molle II straps, this makes it more comfortable. But the old Alice is tried and true and a go to for many people. Ive used my Alice on many trips over the years. You can find the Alice pouches on eBay usually as well as the pack components.

[@cthulhu6697]

@@Skills2survive Thanks, and the ALICE packs in my catalogs come with a black metal frame. Thanks for the education on a system I'm not familiar with. I don't use sternum and waist belts as they impede reaching my plate carrier and pistol belt ( I prep for total SHTF/WROL/societal collapse and yes, I will be looting ( not someone's house, but pharmacies, gun stores, grocers, hardware, auto parts stores, mil surp stores, Bass Pro Shop/Cabellas, automotive stores, dept. stores, etc...... A guy looting a controlled drugs cabinet, something I legit medically need, he can expect a 7.62 round in his dome, lol)

[@nomadmarauder-dw9re]

I don't do vids. But I know people who would hold a phone for a couple of cold ones. FGS you guys kill me.

[@XtremlYDementeD]

I have Molle straps to a frameless medium alice pack...

[@Skills2survive]

@a227144 Thanks

[@TreF68]

If you are following this tutorial, make sure you have the MOLLE straps and not the MOLLE II straps. I have the MOLLE II, and cannot figure out how to attach them in a way that is adjustablefor different torso sizes.

[@Skills2survive]

+Trevor Fronk It's my understanding that the only difference is a little more padding and Velcro instead of buckles. It still should attach fine.

[@robertdelamare4129]

Malle 2 frame pout the mountain patrolled bag on a Malle 2 frame can you help me

[@Skills2survive]

The patrol pack will not fit on the Alice frame

[@GHILLIEOPS1]

You moded your pack into a HELLCAT ALICE PACK I set mine up the same way

[@Skills2survive]

Mike Klaput Yes, pretty much.

[@Filip7370]

Is it possible to make a alice pack with molle straps and WITHOUT frame?

[@Skills2survive]

Filip7370 I dont believe you can, because you need the frame to attach the straps to.

[@Filip7370]

Well I would need to see on a exhibit.

[@freedog632]

Skills2Survive the medium pack can be used without the frame, but i dont know if the molle straps can attach

[@Skills2survive]

freedog632 yes that is what I am using here. The medium Alice.

[@freedog632]

Skills2Survive i know, i was using your video to put my pack together with the molle accessories. Found out i dont have those small straps for the top of the frame. dont suppose you know where you could get or fabricate those....though mine seems different because the straps ove the shoulders look like the ones that secure it to the bottom of the frame. im not sure

[@Skills2survive]

@RestlessBear70 Check ebay. That is usually the best place.

[@Skills2survive]

@Vyppaaa11 LOL

[@MrObveous777]

with no shoulder straps*

[@Skills2survive]

@NKGMAN check ebay

[@phillyphilhouse79]

Got my shoulder straps in, but they didn't come with the load lifter support straps. The shoulder straps are pretty much useless without them. Pretty pissed off because I had to pay another $10 for a pair of them!! It didn't say that in the description when I bought it. It said complete set. Bullshit!

[@Skills2survive]

+phillyphilhouse79 I would send them back to where you got them and tell them that... Ridiculous...

[@phillyphilhouse79]

+Skills2Survive I contacted the seller. He's sending a pair in the mail.

[@phillyphilhouse79]

Skills2Survive Well, got the load lifters and everything's assembled. It does feel a whole lot better than the standard ALICE shoulder straps. Someone suggested that I get the shelf for the frame so that the main pack isn't sagging down. That wont leave any room for the MSS carrier though so I'm not going to add it.

[@Skills2survive]

Yea.. I thought about adding the shelf, it makes the pack more versatile.. But, like you said, there is no room for the MSS carrier.

[@phillyphilhouse79]

Skills2Survive It's funny because when I was issued the ALICE in my infantry days, I hated it. Up until the molle rucksack came out. Than I was like oh ALICE, how I miss you. LoL. One good thing about the molle rucks was that they were pretty water resistant if not completely waterproof. With the ALICE you definitely have to add the wet weather bag. But it's good for what I need and I'm happy with the Hellcat mod. Best idea ever. I was thinking of sending the main pack in to Tactical Tailor to get molle panels on the lower sides attached. For now I'll leave it as is.

[@PKPreach]

*frame

[@e93gsx]

Why is the whole thing slightly out of focus? Can't watch it.

[@Skills2survive]

Sorry !! This video is over 10 years old, so…