Avoid These? Most Reliable 2023 Midsize Trucks Ranked by Consumer Reports

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@clintperry799
@clintperry799 Жыл бұрын
Stay away from Ford, gmc , Chevy. I would go with the Frontier 👍
@propertypreparedness6846
@propertypreparedness6846 Жыл бұрын
I like Tim, I grew up in Michigan, he's got that dry delivery..just the facts lol. Like a warm blanket
@bruceleonard81
@bruceleonard81 Жыл бұрын
I bought a 2021 ridgeline and have no issues, they extended the warranty on start stop ignition for 10 years
@tuffr2
@tuffr2 3 ай бұрын
I now have a gas powered 2017 F-250 and and thinking I may get the 2025 Honda Ridgeline.
@todddembsky8321
@todddembsky8321 Жыл бұрын
Interesting to look at all midsize at once and see the trends across segments. Most seem to revolve around electronic issues manifesting in mechanical symptoms (aka transmission or engine issues)
@dlg5485
@dlg5485 Жыл бұрын
I owned a 2020 Tacoma TRD Offroad for about a year and I absolutely hated it. The worst driving truck I've ever owned, by far. I always take CR rankings with a MASSIVE grain of salt because their data pool is extremely limited, so I wouldn't take it to the bank.
@ramrider1453
@ramrider1453 Жыл бұрын
Just like the Full truck rating survey. GM and Chevy in last place again. They must be hurting? Even though Ram was 1st place. I must say Toyota has a lot more consistency with higher ratings over the years. Why can’t the others keep the same consistency as Toyota? Nice video Tim as always. 👍
@IamGroot786
@IamGroot786 Жыл бұрын
Because other automakers want to reinvent the wheel every few years by doing complete redesigns on their models. Toyota on the other hand is very conservative and only does mild refreshes and incremental changes, that's why the Tundra took forever to be redesigned and it became a bulletproof model as far as reliability goes.
@CMS069
@CMS069 Жыл бұрын
​@@IamGroot786 been driving Toyota since 2000, have had 5 Toyotas over the years , still have two of them but they are not the new-generation 22^ 23^ nor would I want to buy one.
@Aaron-or6ov
@Aaron-or6ov Жыл бұрын
@@IamGroot786 I was a Toyota tech for just about 23 years and the process Toyota has works great. I can go into details as in how but it’s very long.
@IamGroot786
@IamGroot786 Жыл бұрын
@@CMS069Exactly. I kept a Toyota for 16 years. In that time besides oil changes and other regular maintenance I replaced one belt and did one brake job.
@IamGroot786
@IamGroot786 Жыл бұрын
@@Aaron-or6ovThey’re rock solid. We still have a Sienna and the damn thing just runs.
@Gene1969
@Gene1969 Жыл бұрын
Good save on the CR comment Tim. Glad the guy helped point it out. I agree that this is going to be an exciting year for the midsized market. That 2.7 in the GM twins is a killer and I am optimistic that they "tuned" the transmission for better results.
@johnwhitneykokalis9990
@johnwhitneykokalis9990 Жыл бұрын
Personally, I don't mind if I have to take a new Truck back to the Dealership one time for a new transmission as long as I am in love with the way the truck looks, drives, comfort, ect, ect. Its my money, my time and my life and how I choose to live and make choices is my bussiness. Being a GM retired employee also helps on knocking of 4 or 5k on the MSRP. I just ordered Canyon btw.
@Velkanis
@Velkanis Жыл бұрын
the only way to know if GM's 8 speed revision fixed anything is to touch 75k to 150k or dismantling one, as it has been well documented that any kind of power will make that transmission grenade in spectacular ways and since the new 2.7' has a higher power celing... im eager to see if either GM will get bit in the ass for their awful product or they finally made it decent...
@ricardorodriguez7590
@ricardorodriguez7590 10 ай бұрын
What about the diesel canyon/colorado with the 6 speed auto? Is that in the data?
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 10 ай бұрын
Yes, it is in the data, but the data isn’t broken out by engines. I’ve never found that broken out in 14 years of doing this.
@RobustArid379
@RobustArid379 Жыл бұрын
We are not buying nothing this year. The recession in banks is real
@smittysmitty481
@smittysmitty481 Жыл бұрын
Cool video & thank you for the info
@thomaswipf7986
@thomaswipf7986 Жыл бұрын
What is the GM 8 speed trans brand? ZF 8hp trans is great
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk Жыл бұрын
GM makes their own transmission.
@tbone9405
@tbone9405 Жыл бұрын
Honda V6 has cylinder deactivation on the back 3 cylinders. It makes the truck stumble when it turns those cylinders back on. It also causes the plugs to foul as miles pile up. They should have a switch to turn off this feature.
@liamcarp7113
@liamcarp7113 Жыл бұрын
Bro check out used Ridgelines on Edmunds. There are Ridgelines with over 300k miles all over the place. Don’t be a clown 🤡
@Pro-zy6ip
@Pro-zy6ip Жыл бұрын
Most reliable 2023 midsize trucks??????? How could they be rated when most of these trucks are not even on the road yet? What is CR talking about?
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk Жыл бұрын
Simple - past performance. You can't wait until they are on the road. People need information to help their buying decision. I get asked about reliability on future vehicles all the damn time.
@IamGroot786
@IamGroot786 Жыл бұрын
They're looking at data (Owners feedback) on the same model for last few years, especially if it hasn't been fully redesigned. When there's complete redesign, like with the Colorado now, my guess is they have to take into account the brand's overall performance in the past.
@gordmonteath6090
@gordmonteath6090 Жыл бұрын
Well that sounds bogus. Past performance!!??? Yes we are rating your totally new,totally redesigned, new engine new exterior and interior Colorado but looking at a 2021 Colorado!! Whose pulling the wool over your eye's? Even my dog is laughing
@ScoobyFermentation
@ScoobyFermentation Жыл бұрын
@@gordmonteath6090 what “data” do you use to buy any product? What if your girlfriend cheated on you 5 times, but you married her anyway based on your predicted reliability?
@FrameRot
@FrameRot Жыл бұрын
​@@ScoobyFermentation 😂😂😂😂😂
@JBUCKNE
@JBUCKNE Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tim, I really enjoy your videos about dependability and durability. For me this is the topic I am most interested in. On and off road capabilities and fancy electronics are great but pointless if broken. I also subscribe to and follow CR, any thoughts on going out and doing an external video of their testing? Could even reach out to other sources like JD Power as well as well.
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk Жыл бұрын
I’ve been invited just can’t seem to make it out that way.
@dennisbethards3231
@dennisbethards3231 Жыл бұрын
Never trust consumer reports they are one sided
@johnwhitneykokalis9990
@johnwhitneykokalis9990 Жыл бұрын
CR hates American products. I bought a GMC Sierra Elevation , brand new in 2019 and have had zero problems with it but CR says its a piece of crap.
@tomjohnson8737
@tomjohnson8737 Жыл бұрын
Lol he said the maverick is cheap. When it 5k to 10k over msrp.
@fordmaverickmaniac
@fordmaverickmaniac Жыл бұрын
It is cheap if you order from a dealer that charges msrp they are out there. You will have to wait for the build but it's worth it. I own 2 Mavericks. Ask any questions on my channel.
@tomjohnson8737
@tomjohnson8737 Жыл бұрын
@Ford Maverick Maniac it's not worth it. I have a maverick xl ecoboost awd. Rust bottom. Cheap plastic. When u accelerate it sounds like a drill. The cab is so noisy. The materials they used to build it so cheap. If u get the lariat trim it's almost 40k. At that price a tacoma and ridgeline is a better buy.
@timjohnson1199
@timjohnson1199 Жыл бұрын
I have a Maverick. Some of the parts are cheap but they work well and look good, simple. I got it at MSRP and very happy with it. No rust. I have the hybrid- drives quiet and acceleration is good. I have a loaded Lariat. With everything I wanted it was under $34k and getting 46 mpg in mixed driving. Very worth it and I could sell it for more than I paid for it.
@pecanstamped4522
@pecanstamped4522 Жыл бұрын
@@timjohnson1199 what is the msrp? I am looking to get a smaller truck.
@timjohnson1199
@timjohnson1199 Жыл бұрын
@@pecanstamped4522 Hi Amy, I bought my Maverick Lariat for about $32 loaded with everything I wanted. I traded in a XLT Maverick that I bought for about $28 (also with the luxury package and a few other nice options. I'm very, very happy with my Maverick. The downside was I had to wait a long time after I ordered it. I think they've raised prices a little bit but they are still a better value than most other vehicles. I'm also getting in the mid 40s mpg in mixed driving.
@bwaters698
@bwaters698 Жыл бұрын
Nothing Personal my friend, But when you Google what you're talking about There Are So Many reports saying something different, they All have their own opinions who's the best ,worst and who last the longest 🤔
@fossil9440
@fossil9440 Жыл бұрын
I've filled out those CR surveys. The questions are pretty much worthless. Not sure how they get quality data from those owner surveys.
@josephbreen9955
@josephbreen9955 Жыл бұрын
They're still using the eight speed even though they say it's a second gin that has been too indifferently. From what I understand the transmission has to be totally redesigned to fix the issues
@kevinpaulson2659
@kevinpaulson2659 Жыл бұрын
Have a friend with the 8 speed at 107K miles. The tranny just gave up the ghost. Ridiculous.
@wilmarbarrick3194
@wilmarbarrick3194 Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing the compacts score high based on how fuel economy is weighted.
@ScoobyFermentation
@ScoobyFermentation Жыл бұрын
You would only be guessing and likely wrong.
@rondail5675
@rondail5675 Жыл бұрын
They are all pretty much reliable.
@ramiroescamilla7263
@ramiroescamilla7263 Жыл бұрын
The last Chevi I owned was pure junk.
@IamGroot786
@IamGroot786 Жыл бұрын
@@ramiroescamilla7263It was Chevy that finally pushed me towards the Japanese brands.
@rondail5675
@rondail5675 Жыл бұрын
@@ramiroescamilla7263 I have been lucky with all brands except for an AMC. It sucks when you get a lemon.
@chrisb9478
@chrisb9478 Жыл бұрын
Toyota, Honda, Nissan are reliable. Ford is ok, but feel cheap. With Ram & GM you’re just rolling the dice if it’ll have problems.
@michaely936
@michaely936 Жыл бұрын
Consumer Reports ratings are based on subjective surveys and are worth much.
@markf8256
@markf8256 Жыл бұрын
There is also the psychology that is not accounted for in CRs surveys and rankings. It’s about the type of people that purchase various brands and models, and that they are willing to fill out a survey, etc. In addition to that the age of those that rely on CR and complete these surveys trend to the older demographic.
@scotw67
@scotw67 Жыл бұрын
Consumer Reports…😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@digital_0630
@digital_0630 Жыл бұрын
Tim hates the fact that foreign automakers are always on top of reliability lists. Lol it’s so easy to see he’s partial to domestic, especially Ford products. Which is fine. But we just want facts. Not him trying to sprinkle his biases to try to change views 🤷🏻‍♂️
@Boobtube.
@Boobtube. Жыл бұрын
I don't see that. He reports it as he see"s it, unbiased. What i disagree with, is him using CR as his "data base". CR is not on the up and up like they used to be.
@Gene1969
@Gene1969 Жыл бұрын
I completely disagree with this. Tim knows that the Tacoma, Tundra, Ridgeline, Frontier, and Titan are all made in the United States thus making them Domestics. He has videos defending the quirks of the latest Tundra. His viewpoints on the Frontier have been similar on reviews like Sarah-N-Tuned and others.
@Garlander
@Garlander Жыл бұрын
​@@Gene1969 I could have sworn tacoma was made in Mexico
@ScoobyFermentation
@ScoobyFermentation Жыл бұрын
@@Garlander so is the Maverick
@ScoobyFermentation
@ScoobyFermentation Жыл бұрын
@@Boobtube. Source?
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