Awareness Without Intent? Daunte Wright and Kim Potter Case Analysis

[@zblackness2510]

The fact that she was a field training officer is mind boggling 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@loralieisa]

What are you talking about? Potter did an excellent job of training the the officer about what not to do.

[@KelzG1]

@@loralieisa 🤣🤣

[@cpesq.5884]

Boggle boggle

[@9sheri9]

@@loralieisa You are not wrong; agreed 💯

[@melleetheka]

Well now this little POS criminal can’t cause another good person to make a tragic mistake because he’s dead . Boo boo

[@3001Goran]

Best asmr ever. Gentle quiet talking, I enjoy falling asleep with Dr Grande's "not diagnosing" just speculating.

[@rebel4466]

Diagnosing someone through media reports is highly unprofessional in his position. That's why he has to repeat this over and over and over again. You know how the internet is

[@mumtazsheikh690]

Why was she a training officer? She became so hysterical over such a tiny amount of stress that I can't believe anyone thought she would be suited for that position

[@paulajohnson139]

I'm a retired social worker. Years ago I walked into my building only to see a man jump over the second floor (higher than a normal second floor) railing onto the atrium floor. He barely missed falling on people standing in line at a service window. He landed on his back. I immediately walked over and knelt by his side to provide comfort and aid. His hair was long and mangled. I thought the back of his head may have been seriously effected. Many people gathered around and watched. It was scary dealing with the man but it was necessary. After I returned to my desk a supervisor came over and apologized for being one of the onlookers. He said he felt very ashamed for not acting. I hadn't noticed him as one of the onlookers and said something to make him feel better (which probably didn't actually help). Anyway, this supervisor was a crisis response trainer! He found out that day - - as did we all- - that he wasn't cut out for crisis response. My own supervisor came by my desk and asked how I was doing. I said I was fine. She said I could take time off. I repeated I was fine. About an hour later I began shaking like a leaf and couldn't stop. Someone said I was in shock. Who knows? The entire experience will be something I'll never forget.

[@afdgxzghzgfhgfzhazghzdfhxf]

11:03 According to the law, she was negligent, not reckless, as she believed she had a taser in her hand. For it to be reckless she would have had to consciously created an unnecessary risk.

[@barba5537]

She is the person in her dept who teaches safety and training officer.. How could she f.. it up.

[@calliew311]

Incorrect. Reckless is what the jury had to find in order to find her guilty of first degree manslaughter. Here's an excerpt from USA today: "To convict on the charge of first-degree manslaughter, prosecutors must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Potter caused Wright's death while committing a misdemeanor - reckless handling or use of a firearm "so as to endanger the safety of another with such force and violence that death or great bodily harm to any person was reasonably foreseeable."

[@andyp2000]

@@calliew311 I wonder if these are the differences among the state; searching throught the internet, pretty much everything boils down to "In criminal law and in the law of tort, recklessness may be defined as the state of mind where a person deliberately and unjustifiably pursues a course of action while consciously disregarding any risks flowing from such action" If it was a mistake - as it seems it was - she didn't deliberately pull the gun while cosciously diregarding any risks flowing from that. So I wonder if the particular state is different in that regard?

[@RickMcQuay]

A highly trained officer deliberately pulled a pistol and shot someone. She knew it was wrong when she did it, she said so. The only way you could possibly believe it was an accident or unintentional is if you want to believe, and convince yourself with nonsensical arguments.

[@andyp2000]

@@RickMcQuay Are you telling me that knowing that she fired a gun after the fact proves that she didn't mistake the gun for a taser before the act?

[@sikaifu5509]

My understanding of "recklessness" is that the person needs to be aware of the unreasonable risk. For negligence the person doesn't need to be aware. Guess they can figure this out on appeal, but if the prosecution didn't claim she was aware of the risk, I don't think that can normally be "reckless" unless MN has some weird precedents.

[@TheOwenMajor]

It doesn't. The prosecution deliberately confused the two terms to the jury, and the Judge refused to clarify it for the jury.

[@npcimknot958]

@@TheOwenMajor which is why the defense said prugery they're lying to the jury. and the idiot judge allowed it

[@npcimknot958]

@@alisaforster28691 yup liek the prosecution. laywers are litearlly ripping grande apart. twice.

[@ReubenAStern]

"Whoever wrote this law committed manslaughter against clear writing" LOL

[@wrmlm37]

One last comment: when watching the arrest attempt, it almost seemed as though the rookie "tripped" into Wright, as if he had got wrapped in Potters foot, she was SO CLOSE to them both st the point he falls into the car. And again, they let him leave the car running, so after she shot him, she then created a traffic hazard. The more I learn about this. Anyway, that's what I thought I saw during the beginning of the close encounter. He wasn't resisting initially...then he seems to kindof fall into the car sideways...

[@anonymousperson3023]

Seems like you're just believing what you want to believe rather than actually amking conclusions based off the video. Wright clearly wriggles his wrist in an attempt to escape. And when she shot him, it was too late to turn off the car as it was gonna zip by them milliseconds later

[@therycharles]

@@anonymousperson3023 Seems like you are believing what you want to believe, what you are being led to believe and not the actual FACTS. Facts are the glock Potter fired had a manual safety she had to disengage, facts are the gun was metal and the taser was plastic and bright orange, facts are the gun weighed 2 times more than the taser, facts are the gun and taser were on opposite sides of her waist. Facts are Potter the 26 yr veteran was a police union president and advised officers to be able to "protect themselves and obscure accountability" as she had successfully advised 2 officers in 2019 when she was the first on scene to an officer related shooting where yet another black man was killed, they were not charged, again facts. If you take all of these facts into consideration maybe her shouting Taser and her cries of her shooting her gun was an accident was her protecting herself and obscuring responsibility.

[@frankiefernandez5252]

@@therycharles Glocks don’t have safeties that switch off...I own Gloks and carry one 8 to 16 hours a day.. Stop spreading misinformation.

[@denisefrescas1488]

That’s what I thought why was the car running in the first place that they asked him to get out of the car why was the car running they should’ve asked them to turn off the car and give them the keys that’s what they always do. So that was wrong and she should’ve told him that and why was she standing so close and creating such chaos she she is to blame for that whole Fuckery and she could’ve shot and killed somebody else the other passenger the verdict was correct why don’t you have that analysis about the other passenger in the other police officers the bullet hit the officer in the face part of the bullet hit him in the face if you watch the video and if you watch the trial

[@therycharles]

@@frankiefernandez5252 smh, the Brooklyn City Department Manual cites the Glock 17, 19 and 26 as standard issue for the department. Glocks have a trigger safety that can be felt when touching the trigger. This was testified to in the court proceedings but please look it up on the Brooklyn City PD website. I don't know if your whole statement is a lie now but it sure is an elaborate one so I salute you, why don't you stop trying to spread misinformation.

[@comfortouch]

What would have swayed me as a juror to a guilty verdict is what Potter said, right after she shot Wright. 'Oh shit I shot him, I am going to go to prison' Her first thought was for herself, not for the man who was shot. IMHO, Her thought should have been 'oh shit I shot him', then got on her radio to call for an ambulance. Not 'poor me, I'm in trouble'.

[@warriormanmaxx8991]

@Lets Gossip - re: "IMHO" = Above is your "humble opinion?" Nothing "humble" about the opinion. Do you use that meaningless phrase much in daily life as well?

[@SomeplaceScary]

@@warriormanmaxx8991 IMHO is also very, very widely used as an acronym for "In My Honest Opinion".

[@carrielange2692]

@@warriormanmaxx8991 an opinion is an opinion, period. What the commenter was acknowledging was that it WAS only their opinion, duh. that's what IMHO means. It means: hey, I acknowledge that this in only my opinion and not a statement of fact, and others might have different views than me.

[@Therealtrollking]

@@warriormanmaxx8991 snowflake Republicant

[@freezinhotroniz]

@@Therealtrollking for real that was the most fragile shit lmaoo

[@joeMW284]

All I want are police to be held to the same standard of quality and safety on the job that most of us are. Screw up a couple times and you're done. Blacklisted from policing forever. So many of these murderous cops have had lengthy records of infractions and complaints... sometimes driven out of one department, only to be employed by another shortly thereafter.

[@anthonybates7307]

One thing for sure. she will not be a police officer anymore. She has been convicted of two felonies.

[@razorbeard6970]

@@anthonybates7307 A conviction that may be overturned.

[@chikushodiz91]

@@razorbeard6970 won’t happen

[@churblesfurbles]

They won't be because merit in selection is against "equality". Also the people who are most concerned with harm will not volunteer themselves as deep down they know how they'd react against the dangers of criminals, the risk adverse are the least courageous themselves. She gave a second chance when she had reached full authorization to use deadly force, no officer in their right mind would reach for a taser now. Many more will be put down now, and the crime figures show the consequences. The only officers left will be the sub par and the cynical, progressive agendas always result in inverse outcomes.

[@joedirt2862]

@@churblesfurbles You get it.

[@valkyriesardo278]

How is it Alec Baldwin remains home for Christmas but not Kim Potter? Both of them shot and killed someone. Nobody disputes the fact. Both fired a weapon in the performance of their work. Both claim it was not premeditated and never intended. Most believe that to be true. How is it that Potter is tried and convicted, but Baldwin is not even charged?

[@vikramgupta2326]

Assuming you're really asking a serious question, these are very different scenarios. If I have to explain, well....

[@Tiger-zo2gn]

I think Alec Baldwin can afford a better legal team than Kim Potter. If they intend on charging him, they will be patient.

[@wrmlm37]

I will say this, as I have on other videos: Everybody's life was put in danger when the rookie AND Potter failed to have Wright TURN THE VEHICLE OFF! Isn't that standard procedure? It is in the Stste I live in...

[@groundcontrol436385]

Another serious mistake was that Officer Lucky did not close the driver's door - that would have prevented Wright from jumping back in the car.

[@bthomson]

Also never reach into a car! This put extra stress on the other officer!

[@blueboats7530]

Also it concerns me that Luck told Wright he was being arrested while still in the car and before being handcuffed, if that's all true

[@bthomson]

Yes! Really all around dangerous procedures! Police rules MUST not have been followed!

[@melvynobrien6193]

Potter's obvious lack of training and her incompetence caused a death, guilty as fuck.

[@affinity0327]

I just can't understand how a 26-year veteran could mistake a gun for a taser, they're totally different in numerous ways including the trigger mechanism, but even if it was some kind of rare bizarre mistake a person's life was tooken and there still needs to be accountability for that.

[@kevinhornbuckle]

Go and watch the expert witness psychologist who testified for the defense. He explained how these cognitive errors happen.

[@florencia2771]

A lot of people have cognitive issues, from mild to severe. If a person notices they are “losing it” they should be honest with themselves and leave any job that requires 100% accuracy.

[@kevinhornbuckle]

@@florencia2771 What job performed by humans, produces 100% accuracy?

[@honestyisadyingvirtue]

@@florencia2771 what if it's their first time having cognitive issues?? You know there is a start to it at some point. While driving, while working, etc. This could've been her first time experiencing something over even to a degree for her to take notice.

[@TheRealHelvetica]

It’s pretty understandable when you realize. 1. She’s a woman 2. Those 26 years were mostly spent behind desks

[@agathayoung1893]

After watching all the video footage of the incident, it is clear that the male officers were handling the situation quite calmly, then she jumps in all panicky and hysterical ,yelling,' I 'll tase ya, taster , taser, taser'...then shooting the kid creating all that chaos. ..the thing that hurt me the most was the way she cried and hollered afterwards that she was going to prison and not showing any concern about how badly injured the kid was or if he needed medical attention..she was a lousy cop and a callous human being.

[@TomikaKelly]

Dante wasnt a kid he was a grown 20 year old father. He caused his own do we death

[@garmtpug]

@@TomikaKelly Not really. Potter caused his death. There is no question about that.

[@kathymachen8342]

@@garmtpug If he hadn't resisted,he would still be here.

[@kathymachen8342]

Because that was the first thing that piped into her mind doesn't mean that she didn't suffer for his death.

[@lotusflowerinbloom]

@@kathymachen8342 so you think people who resist arrest deserve an immediate death penalty. Wow

[@senseofstile]

According to the US Department of Labor, "police officer" is not classified as a profession. It is classified as a service occupation.

[@cablehogue599]

Cops shouldn't be considered above the law. Anyone else would be convicted for manslaughter if they did this. Cops should actually be held yo a higher standard due to the extreme power they're given

[@robertrinehuls9099]

Anyone else? Why has Alec Baldwin not been charged with anything yet?

[@fivestar3452]

@Robert Rinehuis because it’s still under investigation.

[@kathrynelkin1519]

She was charged and convicted of manslaughter

[@psychdocdooley]

Agreed👏🏽

[@sargentd3125]

@@kathrynelkin1519 1st and 2nd degree manslaughter

[@Indigenousinsight]

Resisting arrest is not a death sentence. She is trained to deal with high pressure anxiety situations, not the civilian. He panicked and tried to leave the seen (resisting arrest). She, as a trained professional panicked, and killed a man.

[@honestyisadyingvirtue]

Just as he was human and "panicked" as you say, she is also human and made an error. Resisting is not a death sentence but it needlessly escalates the situation. Without that frankly would any of this have happened? Sure she is a trained professional but that doesn't mean she's perfect. Every human has the ability to make mistakes just as he did and just as she did.

[@groundcontrol436385]

It's a death sentence if your resisting puts the lives of others at risk of serious bodily injury or death and that is exactly what Wright did.

[@picachicaasmr260]

@@honestyisadyingvirtue shes a cold blooded killer...thats why she's smiling in her last mugshot!

[@PorkFork]

@@picachicaasmr260 Truly the coldest of killers go 26 years with no complaints and managed to avoid using their weapons the whole time, you are a true genius, I am in awe.

[@janinebarron2691]

@K lake yep there is a reason she was a training officer and not on the beat.

[@sacmom3]

It’s hard to believe that she was a training officer. My brother was a LEO. He said the first thing you do when asking someone to step out of their car is move them away from the car, to avoid this exact situation. That’s what she should have been training her officer to do.

[@lins_z2]

Yes, but even Johnson, the Sargent supervisor of both Lucky and Potter, said that what he would’ve done generally in that situation was to correct the trainee after the fact, not in the middle of it happening. Of course, it was a big mistake and they didn’t foresee that the guy would go inside the car. Also nobody really recalls if the car was still running or not, not even the passenger that was with him can say with certainty. But yes, Lucky should have done that, and he should’ve known that too because it was not his first time as a police officer. He was just a trainee for Brooklyn Center.

[@sacmom3]

@@lins_z2 , I think this just shows their training needs to be reformed. Correcting after the fact is too late. The training officer is there to show them how things are done. Telling Wright to turn off the car, step out and walk to the back of the car is what the training officer should have showed Lucky how to do. The fact that Johnson and Potter both thought this situation was ok, shows their own training is lacking and they should not be training others.

[@lins_z2]

@@sacmom3 I agree, but I think it’s unfair to retroactively punish people for future laws and reforms that people wish… :/

[@warriormanmaxx8991]

@YL G - re: LEO = For those not into acronyms ... LEO means "law enforcement officer" ... not the 5th zodiak sign ... nor "low earth orbit."

[@michelesmith2620]

@@warriormanmaxx8991 People need to take a second more to type words out. It's lazy and rude as he ll.

[@rtwice93555]

Take this for what it's worth. Whether you are a police officer or anything else in life, our brains go into nuetral in a panic situation. Serious mistakes happen that you just can't imagine. Consider this, I have worked in the same shop for over 15 years. Next to the bathroom entrance is a fire extinguisher hanging on the wall. About half the time I walk by, my elbow hits the extinguisher. I often commented we need to move it. Last year a fire broke out in the shop and spread fairly quick. In my panic, guess what I couldn't find? I ran all over the shop looking for a fire extinguisher while forgetting the one 10 feet away that I had racked my elbow on for 15 years. Eventually I found an extinguisher on the other side of the shop; one that I had never noticed before. I got the fire out before it did much damage. My point? I think stress does strange things to our minds. No matter how well something is embedded in our minds, panic seems to erase what we know. Sometimes with deadly consequences. It would be difficult for me to convict Kim Potter

[@metalman6708]

That's your own fault. Also your job doesn't require you to be in stressful situations constantly like a police officer. In EMS you can crush a human beings sternum and know what drugs to inject directly into their veins while talking about what's for lunch after a few times of doing it. You get used to stressful situations. It's why you see videos of people casually walking around a warzone while bullets are flying. You get used to it.

[@at920]

I agree. I put my keys down. Panic about time to work and then forgetting I just put the keys in an easy location to recognized.

[@agathayoung1893]

I'm going to prison. Those words were prophetic. She knew she was wrong from the moment she did it. We are all human but you can't make this kind of mistake and not be held accountable.

[@girlwhomustnotbenamed4139]

Well, police usually can, luckily this time it was different.

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

True, Potter was a senior officer who should of retired in 2019. Many cops; male & female work much longer than they really should. Newer standards say 25yr not 20 as some municipalities had. Florida uses a state pension system. You can cash out after 7 years. Most civil service employees leave after 25yr.

[@princep1398]

@Brett MShe still would have been charged. The only reason that this case is as high profile as it is may be due to the political climate and white/black racial tensions.

[@God-ec8ni]

hey your wrong you can shoot a school as long as you are bullied says a certain family of a mass shooter.

[@zarablue2020]

@@princep1398 actually most lawyers have said they’re shocked to see they actually charged her because mistakes shouldn’t be criminalized so it is because he’s black

[@triGRIMM]

Daunte Wright was initially pulled over for having an air freshener hanging from his rear view, just to keep in perspective. A lot of mistakes were made by all, but starts with such policing tactics, using the trivial to justify escalating enforcement.

[@orcpeon4520]

He also had a warrant for his arrest for running from the cops in a previous encounter

[@thepostofficeprince8819]

How could they pull him over for that???

[@marlenejenkins5534]

I believe his tags were expired. That was most likely the reason.

[@kathyclark8274]

@@marlenejenkins5534 The air freshener was also mentioned in the report as having caught their attn.

[@suryadas6987]

Why is it that in your country when it's a white and black incident the media is race specific but when it is black and black races are not mentioned?

[@Hannah-zw9ow]

The bottom line is if ANYONE else made this mistake it would be considered manslaughter and they’d go to jail. Cops aren’t above the law. If it was an accident then I feel terrible that she’ll have to live with this forever, but I think it’s a good thing a cop is being held to the same standard as the rest of us.

[@ChristinaTodd1970]

Same

[@freebirdjackson5511]

I used to live in the world of absolutes and used terms like ANYONE…but I graduated from college, been to foreign countries and worked in the real world with all kinds of people in very stressful situations. Ironically this led me to be a more rational person. I sure would have a difficult time making decisions about another person’s fate. Also, I would never want to be a police officer and I wonder who would

[@ChristinaTodd1970]

@@beadyeye2312 It's not the same thing at all.

[@ChristinaTodd1970]

@@beadyeye2312 It's Christmas Eve and I don't want to debate today. It's not the same thing at all. Law enforcement has power that the average citizen doesn't and with that power comes responsibility. Alec Baldwin wasn't trying to take away someone's freedom, nor was his victim trying to evade arrest. The circumstances surrounding these events are not at all alike. It's apples to oranges. That said, want time a life is taken it's tragic

[@ChristinaTodd1970]

@@beadyeye2312 I respectfully disagree. Happy holidays and Merry Christmas.

[@phalanx1790]

this situation shows the lack of training in police departments.

[@BBD40]

..by a field training officer too!? She should know her right from left and gun vs stunn gun.

[@BrotherBoresIsBest]

I'd say they go for people that aren't kind or bright. Sure, there are great cops, but military and police want police that are easily manipulated, and will follow orders, certain mindsets, without empathy or individual thought.

[@mariee.5912]

She was a 26 years veteran. If she did not have enough training, how was she a trainer?

[@AB-qe8cs]

And said “I am going to go to prison” when simply saying “I’m going to prison” would have sufficed 🤣 Dr. Grande you’re too much

[@MrAwombat]

Lol, that was the real crime here

[@jodievukmir3187]

I love the fact that she was a certified crisis counselor and yet in crisis she had no idea what to do

[@joanneblack7697]

Having taken martial arts classes, where everything takes place in a (usually) controlled environment, and also having been assaulted on the street, it is clear how different the two are. She may have been certified, may have been an FTO (!?) ... but clearly, the real life situation completely threw her off.

[@44VW44]

First she is a human being which means she’s vulnerable and subject to error. It’s ridiculous to make judgments about her when all of the information is still not available. It’s likely that there was some kind of psychological problem that made her behavior drastically different than her behavior within the police department for 26 years. It would be wise to look at the stress level within the department & provide treatment to prevent further avoidable crises.

[@plnbdy]

We need better 1. Police training. 2. Police Screening 3. Public education regarding how to handle traffic stops.... she shouldn’t have been on the street as an officer... he shouldn’t have been on the street as a dumb ass...

[@marmite.]

I totally agree she never used her training at all,and as she stated on the stand she had been on many crisis situations in the past.. Crisis Negotiator talks people down they don't go in for the kill..

[@grilleFire]

What is there to love about it? Maybe you should be shocked at how unprepared people get certification. There needs to be a public investigation regarding the certification office.

[@maureeningleston1501]

It's tragic this happened, but it's frightening that the same mistake has been made 15 times before.

[@Chaoitcme]

"Mistake"...

[@patrickhall6627]

There's over 300 million police interactions annually. That 15 represents the totality of this circumstance, which is to say this almost never happens.

[@chieflordbossking4707]

@@n8vscience842 wrong wrong you get an F Actually African-American officers killed more than any other cops and it's not even close.

[@Lovely-sv1ye]

Only 15 times?

[@rylandavis2976]

You would be amazed how hard it is not to make mistakes in adrenaline dump situations

[@marshdweller01]

This is the reason why tasers are holstered on the opposite side from the duty weapon. It requires a cross draw. She was also a field training officer. Don’t know if they went into the type and frequency of her training and periodic refreshers. Her actions in this encounter would seem to be a panic mode vs muscle memory ingrained by repetition in training.

[@tiffanyyoung9671]

She may of been a field training officer but that doesn't mean she was well skilled at her job. She may of been the least skilled person for the job yet given the job as a field training officer in order to meet the required quota for females. Job positions need to be filled by meeting affirmative action quotas first before skills and experience.

[@Chevy-hw6lw]

@@tiffanyyoung9671 sadly you’re right.

[@rickjames5998]

certain departments tell u to never cross draw, she'd be taught to hold the tazer with her left hand. This way you'll hopefully reduce the chance of drawing wrong. Tazer = left hand only. Gun = right hand only.

[@pinkgoddess5428]

@@tiffanyyoung9671 yes it’s truth. I totally agree. I have seen this happen over and over.

[@Melinda8162]

@@rickjames5998 ha. I’m left handed. Can’t do a thing right handed.

[@spitfirestake54]

I wish you’d mention how no one requested medical assistance for the people injured as a direct result of her actions.

[@anonymousperson3023]

How'd you know that? And even assuming that to be true, where'd you want the medical assistance to go to? Cause we have no idea where Wright went after being shot

[@beverlydegrate3042]

@@anonymousperson3023 he died after he was shot.

[@kimlarso]

@@anonymousperson3023 The cop herself even knew she was in the wrong by screaming:I shot him-“I’m going to prison!” (In her own words!) Justice was served! 🦋

[@felixjohnston3402]

@@kimlarso aww that poor baby Daunte :( who hasn’t shot someone in the head and fought police

[@kimmyg3483]

So dumb, no wonder the world is so messed up. I’d rather the police preserve their own lives than risk being show by that piece of scum. The caution they took before approaching the car was justified. How about saying, geez that young man had his life ahead of him, it’s a shame he wasted it by thugging and wreaking havoc on so many others lives. If he only took responsibility for his actions and faced up to his crimes he would be still here today. You and your ilk are doomed, you have it all the wrong way around.

[@juliefisk8066]

You hit the nail on the head: she was not cut out to be a police officer and she (and Daunte Wright) found out at the worst possible moment. She panicked, and pulled the wrong the weapon. She came across as unlikable in her testimony, she testified like a cop instead like a person who's is depending on 12 strangers for her very "life/freedom."

[@californiacobra527]

Hell, I had a car accident almost a week ago in which the cops had to be called because I couldn't get my car into park and the telephone pole I hit had cracked and was in a bit of precarious state. I ended up having to go to jail because my boyfriend had left two loaded handguns in there that I didn't know about. It was an absolutely MISERABLE experience because not only was I in a lot of pain, being handcuffed and riding in the back of a cramped cop car really set of a couple bad panic attacks. I was hot, I was thirsty, and my hair was in my face and I couldn't brush it out of the way because of the handcuffs. I was scared they were gonna leave me tied up in the back of the car for a long time and not being able to really move around at all for a long period can be really distressing to people like me who have anxiety and panic disorder! I was REALLY lucky that I didn't actually have to go through the full booking process though because right as they were going to take my booking photo, they were told that I was being let out and the same cop that took me to jail was told to take me back to my home city's police department. I still had to ride handcuffed in the back of the car, but at least he locked them in front of me for the ride home. I was SO HAPPY I got to go home the same night because I REALLY didn't want to have to spend the night in jail! Anywho, during the investigation at the scene of the accident, one of the cops lied to me and told me that a part on my boyfriend's Glock was coming back as stolen and while I was pretty sure my boyfriend would never knowingly own any kind of stolen property, it scared the shit out of me because I knew I was still going to be held responsible for the fact that they were in my car, loaded, and I was driving (I was the only one in the car). I'm still really nervous about going to court for all this in April and I'm definitely a little scared of cops now, too after having one lie to me and also not believe that I wasn't going any faster than 35-38mph when I hit the curb/telephone pole! Also, the reason I got into the accident is because it was raining REALLY HARD and even though my windshield wipers were going as fast as they could, I still couldn't see where the line in the road was because there were no reflectors along it. I don't understand why cops always seem to think a person has to be on drugs/alcohol for them to get into a car accident in bad weather conditions.

[@bethtrautmann6901]

What a horrible experience! I can understand that this situation would cause anyone to have a great deal of anxiety. I am not sure of the law, but I would believe that if your boyfriend had a permit to carry a loaded gun in a car then everything will be ok. I would advise you and your boyfriend to contact a lawyer though. It could really help.

[@californiacobra527]

@@bethtrautmann6901 Oh, I am DEFINITELY getting a lawyer. The problem is that it is illegal to carry a loaded firearm in your car in the state of California. The ammo must be separate from the gun to be able to legally travel with a gun in your car. I just had no idea that he had put them in the car. I didn't even know where he had put mine in the car.

[@bethtrautmann6901]

@@californiacobra527 I just hope that the police believe you. I guess they will have to question your boyfriend too.

[@1chienandalou]

I can understand wanting to vent. But every experience I’ve had with Police, in the US, but while I’ve been in countries where I bet it’s worse, has taught me no after who you are no matter what the situation, they are indeed unnecessarily aggressive, but it’s not gonna do any good to fight it. I don’t mean in the long term I mean in the moment. But I’m guessing you’re probably gonna waste your time trying to find in the long term as well because they’re usually “right” somehow . On the other hand, I do think there’s a significant probability that this woman was flustered And made it very very very very costly and fatal mistake. I don’t mean the police are always wrong but the culture of the police is certainly to be aggressive and establishing dominance over you no matter what the situation. And they don’t care that you were having a panic attack or anything like that. Maybe an epileptic seizure of a projectile vomiting or something like that would catch attention. But even under such a situation in this country if a cop didn’t takeoff the handcuffs or I don’t know his knee from your back, it varies how severe it is but don’t expect kindness or any kind of human treatment from cops. That’s all I have seen from the culture of police.

[@1chienandalou]

@@californiacobra527 You said California I hadn’t noticed your name. Loaded guns in the car, I’m afraid you won’t have a case. You can try but I don’t think you’ll go much other than you’re already free so you should be glad and while I believe you, you will just be muddying the waters with this whole panic/anxiety thing. Good luck…

[@TheAllianceEnt]

"I'm going to go to prison." Missed her calling as a fortune teller.

[@chieflordbossking4707]

She should have said well I only shot him once.

[@rockybrown4164]

She was a trainer. She had never worked the streets as an officer. It was an accident and accountable would be 2nd degree charge. She instantly admitted the mistake and knew she would be held accountable.

[@TheAllianceEnt]

@@rockybrown4164 so she was a trainer? but pulled her gun, held it for 5 seconds, and didn't know it was a gun?

[@THE-id1by]

@@TheAllianceEnt yep amazing isn't it

[@TheAllianceEnt]

@@THE-id1by amazing indeed

[@JadedDelight]

"Emotions rarely give people the right answer to any problem" this is a life-changing quote that I will carry with me and reflect on for the remainder of my life and I deeply thank you for this.

[@pastelpanda7309]

That's not actually true. Emotions are just signals. They don't tell us to do anything but pay attention to how something is being experienced. If people don't know how to attend and respond appropriately to their emotional state things like this happen. She was scared she did not listen to it, If she had she wouldve taken a step back to think of what to do, and possibley made a better decision. What she did as a response to fear was, "I'm scared, therefore shoot the threat that made me feel this way." She was most likely unconscious of this process because she wasn't in touch with how she was feeling and wasn't receiving the signals her emotions were sending her. Being unconscious was her problem.

[@williamkirby3552]

@@pastelpanda7309 Fear and stress make it difficult to think straight. It's as simple as that.

[@klee4d]

I agree it is a profound statement. If it was life changing for you then that's your own business and I'm happy you feel that way. Why is everybody trying to tell you how to feel? I mean what's with all the negativity from you people? 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@RAYROD]

@@klee4d comment sections are filled with know it alls.

[@wintercomesearly]

Except it's wrong.

[@reefislander]

I just saw the conviction and immediately went to KZbin to see if Dr Grande covered it and here we are!

[@IdeologieUK]

Always dependable this man! 👍

[@prschuster]

@@IdeologieUK I'll have to do the same in the future.

[@bpoydras1503]

I think we all are guilty of doing this. Haha

[@rustyshackleford8473]

I would encourage you all to look into Daute's *vast* criminal history. He had shot at least 2 people in two separate robberies - one individual in the head who survived but is now a vegetable. He had also very recently robbed a choked a woman at gunpoint just prior to this incident. He was someone who never should have been out on the street in the first place. There's a saying that you live by the sword, you die by the sword and this tragic accident may have been karma coming around for Daunte.

[@aldersmoke1]

Wright wasn't a gold star human being by any stretch, but that doesn't mean Potter's mistake gets a pass. Because of her actions, he can never be held accountable for everything you listed because he's not here anymore. She is, and she made a lethal mistake regardless of the character of the person who died. So she can be held accountable, and by the law of civilized society, should be.

[@rustyshackleford8473]

@@aldersmoke1 The charges were wrong and she was innocent of what she was accused of - intentional recklessness and conscious negligence. We can't just interpret the law differently or invent new definitions every time we need to "hold someone accountable." We have accountability for situations like this and that's what our civil courts are for. Do you know how many doctors kill people unintentionally making mistakes while performing surgeries? Do we put them in jail?

[@scabbarae]

He certainly wasn't an upstanding citizen to say the least, but that still doesn't mean Potter was right to fatally shoot him during a regular traffic stop. I think manslaughter is a fair charge.

[@rustyshackleford8473]

@@scabbarae Tell me you don't understand the law without telling me you don't understand the law.

[@rustyshackleford8473]

@@AlbertHess-xy7ky Yeah BS. You can be a criminal and not have convictions. He literally had an open warrant and a restraining order at the time of the incident in question. There is also a civil suit against him stemming from a 2019 shooting where he robbed someone named Caleb Livingston after shooting him in the head. During the trial, they also went over his extensive background with his run ins with police and his history of either fleeing or not showing up for court dates.

[@agathayoung1893]

So many police tend to overreact instead of staying in control of the situation and then there are those who can stay in control and do there job in a professional manor .

[@ellamitchell1270]

Agreed - and she certainly did not do her job in a professonal manner.

[@StationRussification]

Stupidity is learned & practiced, goes back decades & comes from the top Brass in Police Departments.

[@pollypuffington2243]

And this is why there needs to be more stringent police training they need a 4 year degree with 2 years of that intensive training for situation management, bias education, and better physical training etc. Basically it needs to be extremely harder to become of cop its the only way to weed out the people who shouldn't be doing this job.

[@animal1nstinct394]

unless you've worked as a police officer and been in these life and death situations, you really have no room to pass judgement

[@66limelight]

@@pollypuffington2243 Making it harder for people to become cops will result in much fewer police. I'm not saying it should be easy but I don't think requiring a 4 year degree is the answer. Kim Potter was negligent in her actions but what if Daunte Wright had managed to get away, speeding down the highway and killing a pedestrian? He wouldn't have been going for a Sunday drive, I can tell you that. A lot of people are saying we need police reform. Well how about some citizen reform? If Daunte Wright hadn't resisted and cooperated with the police he'd be alive today. He was a thug who (1) already had broken the law prior to being pulled over and then (2) resisted and fought the police resulting in his death. In other words, he made bad decisions that put him in that situation. I see so many of these commenters that don't put any blame on DW. Would you want your 20 year old daughter to be dating Daunte Wright?

[@michaelcarter266]

Nobody is above making an error. You don’t know what you will do in a situation till you are actually in that situation.

[@The_Red_Pill__]

Doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be accountable. And, all people in authority should be held to a higher standard because they assume high responsibility. Police officers undergo intense training to be able to handle these difficult and stressful situations… No one is above making errors and no one is above consequences for their actions!

[@Preservestlandry]

@Brett M not every crime requires intention. You are just making up definitions.

[@ChoLovingVampire]

@@The_Red_Pill__ You sound pretty blue pilled with this comment. In many states her using a pistol to stop him would be totally legal.

[@ShadowWizard123]

@Brett M the whole lack of intent thing is precisely why the manslaughter laws exist.

[@Satanthony]

Wrights other victims have already filed lawsuits against his mother for the money she will be trying to get from the city. I think she gets off on appeal.

[@ParchedGoddess]

His crimes are not his mother's, and will have no bearing on the wrongful death settlement.... I don't understand what legal standing "they" (how many victims are you talking about here?) would have to file lawsuit(s) against the mom? Are you telling me I could file a lawsuit against the mother of the drunk driver that killed my brother?

[@andyvanm1]

Daunte Wright should have been in prison and not driving around.....

[@dearbh1736]

Thank you Dr Grande. There are a few things, minor as they may be, that I would like to point out. Just for accuracy, the piece of paper that Potter had in her hand, she had pulled this from Daunte Wright's jeans pocket and not from Officer Luckey. I found her testimony on the stand to be very cold and hostile and she only became very 'upset' when she talked about the 'scared look' that she saw on Officer Johnson's face but was quite calm when talking about the actual shooting of Daunte Wright. As soon as she shouted 'Taser, taser, taser' Officer Johnson stepped back from the car to avoid getting tased so there was no chance of him ever being dragged, but Officer Luckey maintained the hold he still had on Daunte Wright's arm in an effort to prevent him from fleeing the scene and so his head and shoulders were inside the car to the point that when she shot Daunte Wright, the ejected casing literally hit Luckey in the face. Having followed the entire trial as it unfolded I never got a sense that Kimberly Potter had any kind of remorse about the fact that she was responsible for the death of a young man and her own testimony only compounded this. I have never seen a colder affect on a person and even when she heard the guilty verdict she remained stone faced and didn't even blink so it makes me wonder about the histrionics on the stand without a single tear on her face throughout the whole thing. I understand that part of the story is the fact that Daunte Wright had this outstanding warrant and protection order which led to the struggle and all that happened after that but I don't see how any other part of his criminal history is relevant to the case which is why it was not allowed to be brought up in court. To be honest, Dr Grande, I was surprised that you went down that rabbit hole too in providing the background story. Daunte Wright was not on trial but the media are having a circus with these background issues which have nothing to do with this case yet he is being villified and portrayed as a thug. He was only 20 years old and the father of a young baby and none of us know how Daunte Wright would have turned out in life because it was taken away from him in an instant. Kimberley Potter made the mother and father of 'mistakes' and killed a man. We don't get to make mistakes like that without having to take responsibility and the verdict that was reached will result in her taking responsibility and maybe even having a little remorse for the person who she wiped out with a gunshot although judging by her prison mugshot in which she is grinning from ear to ear one has to wonder if she understands the concept of remorse at all.

[@Moleda1986]

Agreed!

[@tabbylynn4130]

Agree 100%

[@fbxx9845]

They put the taser opposite the dominate hand for a reason. The taser is bright yellow for a reason. I think the taser has a couple steps before use.

[@PHlophe]

@@fbxx9845 Naw, the taser has a few steps before pulling it out of the left pocket.

[@fbxx9845]

@@PHlopheSo what did I say you disagreed with? Or do you not have comments of your own? Qh wait, you did claim it was pulled out of the 'left' pocket, but clearly that applies only to right hand dominate people. So now that you've added zero to the conversation, are you thru?

[@Optics2024]

As someone who served in the army I can tell you in the heat of the moment you’re not going to have clarity of thought. Yes you could mistake a like fire your weapon instead of a tazer. I think her conviction was harsh. Though I do think she was negligent and certainly should have been fired as a cop. But she was carrying out her job in an extremely stressful situation and made a mistake, I don’t think she deserved the manslaughter charge. Wright himself was as responsible for his death as she was.

[@animal1nstinct394]

I was in the Air Force and agree.

[@tellall23]

she had way too much experience to make such a basic "mistake": Manslaughter was well deserved!

[@Jumbo37279]

True but if there both just as responsible then she should get the charge because he’s dead , that’s forever. She got manslaughter with negligence. She’s going to get out.

[@ultimatetruthteller4169]

If a cop doesn't have "clarity of thought" then perhaps the job isn't for them. A 26 year, vet of the force, wasn't supposed to pull a weapon of any kind when a driver is sitting in the seat of a car. Her own department guidelines forbids that. The nonsense of seeing the fear in Sgt. Johnson's eyes was all after thought and made up as her defense. She knew she screwed up immediately after the shooting. That's why she said she's was going to prison. This was trial was about Kim Potter and Kim Potter only.

[@Optics2024]

@@ultimatetruthteller4169 well unless you’ve invented Robocop unfortunately any human being is going to react emotionally in a stressful, potentially life or death situation. They’re cops not robots. But I would agree with you and the video itself in that she wasn’t the right person to be in that situation. I personally don’t think many women are if I’m honest. Not trying to upset anyone. But I’ve seen all sorts in pressure situations. People throwing grenades with the pin still in, accidentally firing their rifles. These are mistakes people wouldn’t normally make, but you can’t really recreate these things in training. I agree that she was negligent, absolutely. It was a mistake and she deserved to face punishment. But I’ve seen people intentionally do far worse things and get less.

[@cuppycakey5013]

It was clearly an accident, but he deserves no sympathy. Someone who shot two people and held a gun to a woman’s head, demanding she give him her rent money, then choked her is a POS. Also if he would have complied and not thought he was smart and tried to run, he would be alive.

[@melmel4712]

Accountability is important. While I feel bad for Ms. Potter having to live with her mistake for the rest of her life she needs to serve time.

[@ChristinaTodd1970]

I agree. Betcha she gets 3 years, will serve half and with time served she'll be out in a year.

[@JW-ce3os]

@@ChristinaTodd1970 no, this judge clearly isn't going to play favorites. She's going to stick to the guidelines. She already said she wasn't going to treat her differently than any other convicted felon.

[@ChristinaTodd1970]

@@JW-ce3os I didn't pay attention to the guidelines. What are they?

[@ChristinaTodd1970]

@@Lou-xq9br Blaming the victim for his own death isn't cool. Resisting isn't a death penalty crime.

[@JW-ce3os]

@@ChristinaTodd1970 she told the defense that she would not let him out on bail, that she would treat him like any other case. Effectively saying that she was not going to play favorites on this. The judge understands this is a highly publicized case and she's not going to have an appearance of favoritism. You can Google for sentencing guidelines Kim Potter for more info, but it's about 6.5 to 8 years. The presumptive sentence is about 7 years and up for parole after about 5 years. It might be factored up or down a little bit, but will almost surely be within guidelines.

[@jayneweaver8695]

No one deserves to be executed for not obeying a police officer. Resisting arrest is a gross misdemeanor in the state of Minnesota, it is not a death sentence by execution i.e., a police officer mistaking their taser for their firearm. Every person saying this is a "miscarriage of justice", "the jury is wrong",, what if it was your child, relative, loved one? Willing to sacrifice your family for a police officer mistake pass? Fifteen "mistakes" means police are at fault.

[@jayneweaver8695]

@@Warriorcock6969 Police Officers have NO right to execute suspect's period. Kim Potter meant to use a taser, her admission, she KNEW she cost a man his life and it was HER fault. She is getting a just punishment for her mistake, she CHOSE to be a police officer, learn your equipment or STAY behind a desk.

[@leehelppie4544]

resisting arrest has created almost every single one of these sensationalized police killings. in my state 'reckless' means 'with heedless indifference to the consequences, perversely disregard a known risk'. the 1st degree charge would never fly, unless the jury were all morons; which is certainly possible. negligence under the laws of my state means ' a substantial lack of due care'. possible here, even though i disagree with not only the verdict, but also the entire prosecution of this officer.

[@andyvanm1]

Amen.society will suffer for this verdict ....The police now are not allowed to do their jobs.....

[@websurfer8670]

British cops literally disarm people with knives and guns WITHOUT killing them.

[@leehelppie4544]

@@websurfer8670 maybe we should ship all our criminals to england. that would solve the problem.

[@side-eyewarrior823]

I felt she came across as arrogant and aloof at various points in her cross-examination. The crocodile tears made it even worse.

[@dustyndewynd8]

I agree with the majority of your analysis of this case. You speak of the hypotheticals if Wright were able to move the vehicle and the danger to the officers, yet nothing of the FACT that Potter endangered an innocent passenger and Officer Johnson reaching across the passenger holding Wright's arm. I saw two officers on either side restraining Wright and pulling him in 2 directions as Potter shot the wrong weapon. The officers apparently weren't too concerned about letting the vehicle proceed nearly 500 feet until stopped by hitting another vehicle AFTER she shot Wright though. Just my thoughts...

[@lins_z2]

By the same argument, you can say that Wright endangered the other two officers and the other passenger by resisting arrest, getting into the car and trying to flee… fleeing police leads to reckless driving, which could have resulted in the same outcome, and even could have dragged Sargent Johnson and potentially killed him or gravely injured him. It has happened in the past and no one knows if that’s what would’ve happened in this case, but it is surely one of the scenarios that in a couple of seconds, went through all of the officer’s minds

[@Preservestlandry]

@@lins_z2 police killing someone has to be the same requirements as the rest of us using self defense. Fleeing, driving away, and being restrained would not allow you to kill anyone in self defense.

[@lins_z2]

@@Preservestlandry for police it is different. Because their job is law enforcement, they have permission to use force than normal citizens wouldn’t normally be allowed to, as long that it is reasonable according to the situation. In this case specifically, according to the testimony of every single police officer, except for the use of force expert for the state (who was a police officer that worked mostly in paper work for 5 years, 15 years ago, and was never in a critical position), she was justified in using deadly force. Problem is, for this justification to apply, she has to intent to use deadly force, instead, she decided to use the taser. Why was she justified? Because it is reasonable to infer that : 1- a person fleeing arrest in a vehicle is generally done at a high speed which can most likely endanger others and himself with the passenger, 2- officer lucky could have been ejected and injured out of the car and Sargent Johnson could have been dragged with the car and potentially get severely injured or even killed. She was not justified just because he was fleeing and driving away, there was other conditions that made it reasonable. Now, what it is debatable here is if because she didn’t intend to use deadly force, if that immediately revokes her right to use force and if the fact that she used the gun, makes her reckless of not foreseeing the consequences of the use of it, when in reality, in her mind she was using a taser. You can also absolutely not believe that she was really intending to use a taser when she yelled “I’m going to taser you” twice and “taser, taser, taser”. But this fact was never discussed by the prosecution, they accepted that it was a mistake and by law, it is the duty of the state to reach a degree of beyond reasonable doubt to send someone to prison. Yet here there was plenty of reasonable doubt for both charges that they made. You can also 1- disagree with the charges made or 2- disagree with the law, but both are not a justification to take away someone’s liberty. Lastly, this doesn’t make Kim Potter not liable for responsibility. Just like any other citizen and professionals in other jobs, we have the civil court that can get retribution for her negligence in the line of duty and she can be sued to bankruptcy and loose her ability to be a police officer. I really recommend you listening to Lucky and Sgt. Johnson’s testimony for the state (direct and cross) , the defense’s use of force expert Stephen Ijames (which different from the state’s expert, he has 40+ years of field experience and has instructed many officers all around the world) and the “slip and capture” expert testimony (both direct and cross). For more than it is out of our moral compass to just allow police to kill people, we have to also follow the guidelines of the law, that are at most murky in Minnesota for recklessness. Simple negligence without intent doesn’t reach the burden to criminally charge someone and strip them of their freedom.

[@ljmarino1]

This is why training is so important. It comes down to muscle memory. If you have to think about what you are doing in a situation like that, you are doomed. She was not cut out to be a cop. It is too bad that she didn't retire sooner.

[@larswhitt1549]

And, Police training in USA is horrible! In denmark the basic education is 2 years and 4 months. And then you start your police specialisation. Danish police have very very few violent confrontations, despite we have 186 officers pr 100.000 inhabitants. (and this covers ALL kind of police work including border patrol and security services), while USA have atleast 40o.

[@kimbaptempura4073]

Also having fathers in the house and stop excusing degenerate behavior BASED on race - the kid was filth, he was begat by filth and he returns to filth.

[@colind7678]

She was the trainer!

[@ljmarino1]

@@colind7678 I know. She should not have been.

[@stoneyswolf]

This was clearly unintentional and she was charged swiftly. Now waiting and waiting and waiting for Alec Baldwin to be charged.

[@MrOsasco]

I followed this case and found confusing. I don't think I would be able to eliminate reseonable doubt in my mind.

[@melvynobrien6193]

If you kill someone by accident, you're still guilty of manslaughter. The verdict was clearcut.

[@dontbelieveeverythingyouth8173]

@@melvynobrien6193 Actually its quite a bit more nuanced than that.

[@nighttrain1236]

@@melvynobrien6193 1st vs 2nd degree. The conviction for 1st degree looks very shaky.

[@anonymousperson3023]

@@melvynobrien6193 it's a lot mpre nuisanced than that. Manslaughter charges comes in different degrees. And each one is more nuanced than the oversimplified version which is only used to help uneducated civilians in the legal courtroom

[@jgjgjg739]

@@melvynobrien6193 a quarter of a million people die each year due to medical malpractice. Rarely though are these cases seen in criminal court but instead in civil court. This case belongs in civil court, not criminal.

[@dreamprescription8852]

She had every right to use deadly force on a resisting suspect engaged in fleeing.

[@rullmourn1142]

If either one of Daunte Wrights trials for attempted murder or for aggravated robbery had not been delayed he would have been in prison instead of out on bail driving around, then none of this would have ever happened.

[@skywalker01974]

So what you’re saying is guilty until proven innocent would have saved his life from officer too stupid to tell the difference in weight of a gun vs a taze?

[@nieshamccoy9419]

@Rull Mourn. STOP VICTIM BLAMING. This is about the actions of Kim Potter

[@M.J.R.]

quit finding excuses. things happen for a reason. but let me give you some "excuses" why it took so long for them to put a handcuffed on him? im not a cop but if i was to arrest someone ill take him away from his vehicle so he wont have a chance or even think to jump back to his vehicle, and none of these would have happened

[@cpesq.5884]

This is not the marvel multiverse

[@ButterBallTheOpossum]

Smiling in the mugshot kind of shows what type of person she is. If I just killed someone I think I'd be just a little bit upset and definitely wouldn't be smiling like I just won an academy award. It really shows her attitude about the whole situation

[@sacmom3]

Yup. Agreed.

[@sir7544]

She killed a horrible person so who cares

[@turnthepage867]

When officers have to take action in front of their supervisors, they over react...

[@tessharte1307]

Merry Christmas 🎄 Doc next year 1 million subs for you

[@justnoted2995]

Thank you for your analysis Dr Grande. Both Potter and Wright were at the wrong place at the wrong time, given who they were. I believe she was genuine in her expression, but yes, not a true policing professional

[@oriolesfan61]

She lied about mistakenly using her pistol instead of her Taser

[@jamesk7256]

Criminal recklessness requires intent. She, by definition, was not reckless, and therefore could not have been guilty of manslaughter. That doesn't stop a jury from reaching a verdict when the jury instructions are terrible and the prosecution misrepresents the law, though. The most absurd part of this whole thing is, if she *intended* to use her gun and employ lethal force, she would have been _legally justified._ Basically, she was charged with manslaughter for intending to use less-than-lethal force; if she said "stop or I'll shoot!", then shot intentionally, she would have been a free woman. The lesson for police? Never use less-than-lethal options for dealing with those resisting arresting and creating risk for themselves or fellow officers. That, or just mass resignations in the Twin Cities, if not all of Minnesota.

[@OneManParade]

If the piece of crap had complied. None of this would have happened. End of story.

[@chasinglighttoo]

Merry Christmas Dr. Grande to you & all your family! Hoping and praying that 2022 will be a great year for our country and the world!

[@IdeologieUK]

Merry Christmas Dr Grande and Family! Thank you for your consistently excellent content. As always my fondest regards and my encouragement for you to take a day off! 🎄 How about a livestream to celebrate 1000 000 subs?

[@bthomson]

Vacation! 🏕🏖🏜🏝🏞

[@IdeologieUK]

@@bthomson nope I don’t think he’ll take a vacation. We’ll probably get an analysis of Judas Iscariot and his co-defendant Pontius Pilot tomorrow. 😄

[@warriormanmaxx8991]

@Up Your Food Game - Nahhhhh !! What does anyone need a "livestream" to celebrate 1,000,000 subs for? Nothing better to do in life?

[@IdeologieUK]

@@warriormanmaxx8991 i have many other things to do in life thanks Sir. A belated Merry Christmas to you and yours, and wishing you a happy and prosperous new year 👍

[@espai99]

I find it so hard in these situations. Basically, that untrained public are meant to be fully calm and never make a mistake when confronted by armed police (so in many cases, any hesitation or mistake in exiting the car etc can result in the person being thrown around, tased, and arrested). And in this tragic case, the poor kid was shot for resisting arrest and arguing back. Sure he shouldn't have resisted BUT you could argue that a stressful situation like that makes you act irrationally. And yet, the supposedly highly trained police force, who receive training in wielding both tasers and firearms, often claim to be "scared and mistaken in their choice of actions" when they end up shooting or injuring the public. In other words, the bar is set that the public must act perfectly in the presence of the police, and yet the police can make stupid mistakes like "pick the wrong gun" and this has fatal consequences

[@espai99]

@Henzo88 even with an active criminal record and an arrest warrant out for him, i don't believe he deserved to be shot to death in the street 🤷‍♂️

[@Blackcatsaregoodluck11]

If a police officer tries to arrest you DONT RUN. Teach your children better

[@acepilotson3331]

Absolutely correct. Citizens shouldn’t have to treat police officers like they’re wild animals or risk getting killed.

[@St.FighterZ]

@Henzo88 carrying a gun without the states permission isnt a crime. Remember that 2nd amendment we have that officers forget about? So no warrant should ever had been out to begin with.

[@ChristinaTodd1970]

Well said! I couldn't agree more.

[@OGitGirlJess]

We’re tired of cops shooting people and getting to say “whoops, I made a mistake.” When does a civilian ever get that luxury?

[@nieshamccoy9419]

I agree. I think that there’s not going to be too much excuses for mistakes that result in someone's death.

[@Layla-in3fm]

We’re tired of low lives being non compliant and crying racial discrimination

[@whoever6458]

It amazes me that somehow she can get convicted when this was clearly a mistake that she made but cops who intend to pull their guns and kill an unarmed person are sometimes not even charged. I have really mixed feelings about this one. On the one hand, this was a complete accident even though it was a stupid one. On the other hand, we simply can't have cops just shooting people in our society, accident or not.

[@robingalbraith323]

The reason why she got herself into this is because she admitted on her own body cam right after the fact, that is was a mistake. Unfortunately her being honest is what got her arrested. Had she done like most coos and held her ground that she meant to shoot in fear of her life, she probably wouldn't have been arrested. But she admitted herself to making a mistake that killed someone That was her issue and what makes her different than the other cases.

[@glee21012]

Daniel Shaver's SWAT shooter was acquitted, he was killed for pulling up his shorts.

[@glee21012]

@@alisaforster28691 Me too. Jury acquitted him. I think people are starting to get pissed off at cops using force too quickly. We are going to see more convictions like the Potter one.

[@shyreetaallen2306]

If there is so Much confusion why doesn’t it happen the other way why doesn’t they pull a taser when they meant to Pull a gun

[@matttilley8620]

I appreciate your commentary in general, but I disagree with your analysis. She was a cop on the beat for 26 years. Until this incident, she never pulled her gun. She was training a new cop and may have been sending a message about being "tough on crime." We will never know what was going through her head at the time, but she wouldn't have been a cop for 26 years if she wasn't qualified to do the job. What happened took place in basically the blink of an eye, and it's easy to talk in retrospect as if she had a lot of time to think about what was going on. The repercussions of this unjust verdict will have an effect down the line. Basically, the verdict means that if a police officer makes a mistake they are going to jail. Also, this verdict and denial of bail was a political statement and should serve as a reminder that judges should not be voted in by the public. That's like asking your local Starbucks barista to elect one doctor over another. I'm a "bleeding heart" liberal who is very suspicious of police activity, but this verdict was wrong. p.s. It came out during the trial that given the circumstances, lethal force was justified. I'm not saying that it right or wrong, but details like these tend to get lost in political back-and-forth.

[@tommymitchell2306]

I appreciate your thoughtful, fair and through analysis of this tragic situation! Thanks Doc G!!

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

That was nicely stated. Very civilized. We need a LOT more of that on KZbin!!!!! And in the world.

[@06Joybells]

He speaks with great eloquence, grandeur and respect.

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

This is a completely tragic situation. I see it equally both ways but not racially, which is how this will play out. she will be made an example of after 6 years of service. But then I think, if after 26 years you don't know the difference in weight, colour etc of your gun from the Taser.... Not good. Recklessness that should be aimed at the city for underfunding police training. But, as Daunte's aunt stated, she holds the gun straight out in front and we can all see it, definitely long enough to see that it is not a bright yellow taser. There is a saying: hard cases make bad law. This is one of those cases.I am thinking of sending her a card just to be decent. We are all human and make bad errors. I still think she would have had to see that she wasn't holding a Taser but....

[@danielx555]

I'm surprised she didn't go with the George Costanza "was that wrong?" defense.

[@louniece1650]

🤭

[@gertrudewest4535]

I have seen police officers do worse. Here in Tucson, an unarmed guy in a wheelchair was murdered for resisting arrest by wheeling away. Similar thing in Phoenix. Neither stood trial, both are men. Can’t help think sexism had a lot to do with it.

[@californiacobra527]

That's so terrible! While the guy may have been resisting arrest, the situation certainly didn't warrant the use of deadly force!

[@earlscheib7754]

In Arizona the police are above the law. Even sheriff Joe was pardoned by the president.

[@KingSlayer_.]

You sound like another person that can't grasp the concept that correlation doesn't equal causation. Just because a man is found not guilty of a crime doesn't mean that all 12 jurors let him off because he was a man. Learn to fucking think critically 🙄🙄

[@inelhuayocan_aci]

Jesus H. Christ. Everything is sexism. You're right; all things from resisting arrest to climate change . . . sexism . . . all of it. Everything is about you.

[@ellie1595]

Are you serious? You neglected to mention that he was brandishing a butcher knife, refusing the commands of the police officers all while heading into a Lowes that was full of customers. Just because someone is in a wheelchair doesn't mean they aren't fully capable of walking. Get all the facts before you spew your ignorance.

[@paulabrown6840]

100 % Agree Dr. Grande. Your thoughtful analysis of this tragic incident is appreciated. 🎄

[@kristinej.4182]

I totally agree as well!

[@kib7292]

I honestly believe she should obviously get fired, and probably a light punishment even, but a prison sentence? I just don't see it. I don't like how the case ended.

[@danielothberg2740]

totally agree

[@dustin628]

Makes you wonder why they allow such emotional people on the police force. No officer should be reacting with emotions, and they should stay level headed when something happens.

[@poisonclarinet]

“One tip for surviving encounters with law enforcement is not to commit a felony or misdemeanor in front of them. It’s actually a good idea to never commit a felony or misdemeanor under any circumstances but it is particularly dangerous to do right in front of a police officer.” Love it!!! Merry 🎄 Dr G!!!

[@huntingtonbeachanthony4957]

Littering is a misdemeanor...you can see the death penalty for that? 🤔

[@pgbrown12084]

So it's the victims fault he got shot instead of tased. Got it.

[@EyesonEnforcement911]

Once again Dr, phenomenal analysis of this case. You never seem to disappoint whatsoever. No bias, no hate, no judgement. Only an educated opinion based on facts. Wish you all the best and I hope you reach 1 Million subscribers soon. Cheers!

[@bthomson]

Bet you get a heart!

[@prschuster]

I do refer to him all the time. He never goes on an emotional tangent. He could have bantered on about racist white cops killing black men, like your usual political activist does, or side with team blue and rant about criminals gone wild in the streets. But he doesn't.

[@bthomson]

Both these comments show why this channel is so treasured!

[@melvynobrien6193]

Potter was guilty as hell; no gun experience, no taser experience, small in stature; who hired this woman?

[@alisarsour8552]

This guy who calls himself Dr. Grande is a mortal and biased like the rest of us. How calmness is to cloak his seething anger and biasness. Do you actually even listen to his worda that are judgemental and biased

[@judymarais12345]

Love your channel Dr Grande. A quick comment I am in no way for or against the judgement. I think she should have been given some credit for not using her firearm in 26 years on the force.

[@TSidez]

Have you seen the video of her coaching other cops who killed an unarmed suspect to shut off their cameras right after the shooting?

[@Charmander009]

Hey pretty women

[@denisewhitaker5116]

Not really. It sounds like she was never really engaged in the field much. We have no idea why she never even tasted someone. The PD would know.

[@debraburrows8435]

Did she ever work in the field in her 26 years? Union presidents, don't usually do field duty.

[@dianej1714]

She should be given credit for only killing 1 unarmed black man in 26 years? Omg.

[@johnhooks9401]

I’m really struggling with this verdict….Seems like there is no evidence to support the intent component of the charges….In fact, the evidence (both the video of her saying “taser, taser, taser” and her own testimony) confirm she thought it was a taser. So where is the intent? That she “intended” to use the taser but accidentally used a gun is not manslaughter unless one imports strict liability principles….This will be interesting to see how the appeal goes….

[@emilyplaying8330]

It’s negligence, it’s a violation of the leges Artis of her field. she did it because she ignored procedures that are in place to avoid these outcomes.

[@knaks4162]

she will probably get off on appeal. They tried to overcharge to make an example.

[@janechambers9980]

So we don't need an FDA, protection from corporation poisoning, etc. They didn't know, so they are not responsible?

[@realBobJohnson]

@@emilyplaying8330 Negligence isn't a criminal offense. Negligence is a civil offense. We prosecute recklessness. The jury got it wrong. She needed to "consciously disregard" the risk. That means she had to have been aware of the of the risk, then disregarded it. There was no evidence presented to show that.

[@ninamullen742]

Well since she didn't have to have "intent " since it wasn't a murder charge

[@fromala2U]

Good analysis. I think Wright was more responsibly for his own death than Potter, but she should not have been a police officer.

[@realistbob7178]

you said it your self, resisting arrest and trying to flee caused his death,,,, the us against the police is not a godd mindset

[@alanmoore2897]

I always felt this was a civil matter rather then a criminal matter, They threw her under the bus.

[@Rose-ez2fm]

She spoke her own destiny into existence. “I am going to prison.” She should have kept her mouth shut and it probably would have been a civil case.

[@felixjohnston3402]

@@Rose-ez2fm no, she made the mistake of shooting a black man. Hardly news if it’s a white guy.

[@alanmoore2897]

@@Rose-ez2fm AGREED!

[@myratraney]

Yup

[@gertrudewest4535]

HER under the bus.

[@QuinnieMae]

Christmas came early this year! This one has been heavy on my mind and you're nothing if not timely, Dr. Grande. Just going to grab my coffee and I'll meet you back here. Thank you as always, and I hope these next few days treat you and yours very fine 🎄

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

'Just going to grab my coffee...' Are you sure you aren't me? That's my line for sure. I don't care if it's ice cold either.

[@LDiamondz]

A very thorough and balanced analysis, Dr.Grande. Merry Christmas to you and your family. 🎁🎄🎊🎉🎀🍾❤

[@cottontails9003]

Merry Christmas to you my beautiful friend, hope you have a beautiful holiday 😚❤💚🌲🌷🎁🎁🎁🎄

[@LDiamondz]

@@cottontails9003 Sending many hugs your way! ❤❤❤❤❤

[@Lawofselfdefense]

I doubt any of us would like to live in a country where people are put in prison because it feels like the right thing to do. Feels that way to who? Also, at 11:08 you apply a colloquial definition of "reckless" in a legal context. Talk about "whoops." If you ask the wrong question, you're unlikely to get the right answer. No offense, Doc, but you're out of your lane--but probably merely negligently, not recklessly.

[@larryholmes9924]

She not guilty. He was getting arrested and wanted to run. He got what was coming to him

[@leonievanheerden7090]

This was a tragic event for so many people.The jury did their job,now it's up to fellow officers to learn from this situation. Insightful analysis as always Dr Grande 🌵💐

[@bthomson]

Yes! Lots to learn from!

[@Chevy-hw6lw]

@@bthomson yeah , sadly people still haven’t learned , have a warrant out for your arrest, break the law more unregistered car, resist arrest, then attempt to flea from a police officer. The only tragedy is the charges excessively brought on a police officer for making a mistake .

[@jguenther3049]

Yeah, I'd learn to resign and be a hardware store greeter, rather than have a judge do a job on me like this one did.

[@sherunswithscissors]

@@Chevy-hw6lw - Everyone is responsible for their mistakes - doctors certainly are.

[@owlobsidian6965]

It's also more importantly for fellow citizens to learn from this situation. Learn to not raise children to be a criminal like Wright. The officer made a horrible mistake. Wrights horrible actions throughout his life were intentional.

[@mr.goodbullet3077]

You earned my subscription along time ago with your content, but it's the dry humor that keeps me.

[@cynthiatolman326]

I just saw the verdict and it was confusing. She was found guilty of the convoluted first degree manslaughter charge. Glad you're on top of this, I'm not familiar at all, and this is convoluted. I do wonder that the other officers didn't see it was her gun, they are so good at seeing one when a perpetrator has one.

[@Paige98]

Oh brilliant comment!

[@MrDeathRay]

Perhaps they were paying attention to the person trying to run them over, just a thought

[@Charmander009]

They can be holding a laptop and they’d think it’s a gun lol

[@dontbelieveeverythingyouth8173]

Convoluted, as in you quietly think it should have been a Murder charge?

[@knaks4162]

they were fighting with the motorist and she was behind them. they weren't looking at her.

[@daskritterhaus5491]

opposite hip. different heft. different grip. different colour. oopsie?

[@tmeservey2723]

As I understand it, Minnesota has some great police training that involves deescalation BUT it isn’t implemented. Maybe it’s time they take that philosophy seriously and mandate it so that they can save lives and any remaining respect citizens have for the police. People shouldn’t be killed for traffic stops or misdemeanor warrants.

[@churblesfurbles]

Female police officers have very few options for deescalation, they chose this.

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

I have had the privilege of watching a police officer de-escalate and it really changes everything.

[@RMcCoy-fb4rs]

This police department was defunded. They have desk officers and class 3 officers left. All the top of the class moved to areas that appreciate police.

[@Ryfinius]

People also shouldn't be career criminals.

[@jaymike3302]

This was felony fleeing and using a car as a deadly weapon.

[@Riva2025]

I agree with what you said at the end, that she may not have been emotionally cut out to be an officer. Not only did she cry and say she's going to jail, but she also sat on the curb hysterical while Wright's car went out of control and was rolling down the hill and hit another car. She did not go to see if her partner, Wright, Wright's female passenger, or the people his car hit were OK or offer assistance. In fact, her hysteria prevented other cops from giving immediate assistance either.

[@davidmenke7552]

Thanks, Doc! A very thoughtful analysis. Really educational too. I look forward to more awesome analyses in 2022!!!

[@ColletteGeeCoach]

No room for error when you’re an officer with a gun. Some professions don’t get a second chance because it’s life and death. I worked as an RN and have made errors in spite of being trained. Fortunately my error didn’t cost anyone their life though many do lose their lives in the medical field and depending on the severity, there is punishment. Pilots like to drink but do we want them drinking while flying a plane we’re on?

[@alphablobmom5521]

But would there be criminal punishment if someone died because of your errors? Would there be a mob of angry people outside the hospital demanding your head? And would all of this hinge on the race of your patient?

[@oddjob914]

@@alphablobmom5521 Well, nurses don’t carry a reputation for indiscriminately killing poor people. Cops do. I mean, people actually admire nurses and doctors. Cops are too political nowadays. Like, I remember I got pulled over a few years ago for speeding. I wasn’t mad but I couldn’t help but wonder, “How often does this pig hit his wife when he gets home?” because I’ve seen these types of stories in the paper. Now, had I been black and got pulled over, there’s no doubt this pig would have splattered my brains all over the windshield.

[@alphablobmom5521]

@@oddjob914 Try leaving your license and registration at home next time you're speeding. Don't cooperate when you are pulled over, and put up a fight when they arrest you.

[@DavenportBarr]

@@alphablobmom5521 what? I deserve to die for that?

[@Jen39x]

@@oddjob914 There are cases of neglect/intent by nurses that were so egregious that criminal charges were found for nurses.

[@zeegorman1865]

I am thinking: If she had not broken down both right after the shooting, and in court, but instead, emphasized that there was danger in that situation, and she did make a mistake in pulling out her gun, but not in reacting with force, she would have been found not guilty ...

[@JWH808]

Absolutely, her reactions made her look more incompetent.

[@christinepedersen5511]

She is guilty but it was an error. Intention should be important.

[@davel7014]

Yeah, she made a mistake, but cost him his life. On the other hand, if he hadn't tried to flee, this wouldn't have happened. I don't think the 1st degree conviction was fair.

[@areyouavinalaff]

a few things to note: you don't mention potter unlatching her gun moments after unlatching her taser. My opinion is that her mind was split between two courses of action when she should have only committed to one from the beginning. i.e only unlatched the taser. When a person has 2 outcomes in mind before any action has been taken, then the actual outcome can be a strange mix of the 2 possible outcomes. For example, there have been times I've been speaking and have two words in mind which I might say later in the sentence, it should be a case of one word or the other since they pretty much mean the same thing, but when the time comes to say one I've said half of one word and half of the other and combined it into a word that doesn't even make exist. Similarly, there have been many times I've made a cup of coffee and gone to put the coffee jar in the fridge instead of the putting the milk back. Fact being I just put the milk back already before trying to put the coffee jar where it belongs. But the point here is I never put the coffee in the fridge, just opened the door and extended the jar before realising immediately. Potter pointed her gun for at least 5 seconds, she had time to correct her action. Potter's statement of "I'm going to go to prison" was the correct phrase because, at the time of saying it, she was looking ahead to a future time when the "going to prison" would occur. How could she be "going to prison" if she hadn't even been arrested yet, let alone charged, tried and convicted. If she was already on her way to prison, at the time of passing comment, only then would the correct phrase be "I'm going to prison". Even if deadly force could be justified, she only gave warning of using a taser so she should have used a taser. If you are to warn someone that you will tase them, then actually shooting them instead becomes excessive force because it is action beyond that given notice of. It's like threatening to stop a child's pocket money for misbehaving, but then beating them to death instead. However you slice it, and regardless of law or interpretation of law, potter deserves prison time for unnecessary fatal shooting.

[@felixjohnston3402]

I think the mistake is balanced out by the fact she killed an out and out sociopath who was already neck deep in a life of violent crime

[@ursodermatt8809]

@@felixjohnston3402 ahhh, yes, that is exactly how those cops shooting people think. "it is only a sociopath" , so no harm done. i live for those moments. i like shooting (people)

[@felixjohnston3402]

@@ursodermatt8809 are you admitting he wasn’t total scum? His record speaks for itself- tried to execute his friend who is now a vegetable, choked, terrorized, and robbed people…all before his 21st birthday.

[@rullmourn1142]

Wright should have never been out on bail for attempted murder to begin with. I guess he's a Saint now, like Saint George Fentanyl Floyd.

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

Perfectly argued. Thank you. You'd make a great prosecutor.

[@melstiller8561]

I have my own impression of the reasons why Kim Potter was found guilty. She HAD to be found guilty -- or else!.

[@loralieisa]

The jurors got out in time for Christmas, and riots were forestalled until next time.

[@steverogers2603]

It does appear that public opinion, and the desire to avoid rioting has managed to effect our courts. The pendulum has swung too far in the other direction now as is often the case.

[@thomaspicone8837]

U. Have. To. Ask if. It. Were. 2. White. Males. Instead of. George. Floyd. N. Dante. Wright would. Outcomes. Let. Alone. The. Acts. Of. The. Cops been. The same

[@melstiller8561]

@@steverogers2603 -- I agree, Steve. Besides, many people don't bother with statistics (or don't even know they exist) so they can reach rational -- not emotional -- conclusions in order to engage in meaningful discussions.

[@tankthearc9875]

jurys dont care about that conspiracy bs, iv been on a few. we look at the case, and truthfully she was imo negligent and caused his death.

[@anerby1]

If he wouldn't have tried to resist arrest he would still be here!

[@OGitGirlJess]

She also put a bunch of civilians at risk. That had to do with her charges also. It’s a blessing that the girl in the car didn’t die in the crash, or all the other civilians around for that matter.

[@tinawindham6958]

Girl in car was high on marijuana just as was Dante.

[@SomeplaceScary]

@@tinawindham6958 What does being high have to do with whether someone deserves to die in a car crash? Like, regardless of your stance on Marijuana?

[@Applest2oApples]

Why, was the officer the one that got in the car and sped away?

[@jen6306]

It’s the innocents harmed the most that makes me the most pissed off

[@rItA589]

Wow this video came out do quickly. I just read the news this morning 😅 I would say "Dr. Grande go enjoy your holidays 😋" ...Although here I am in YT too 🤣 So... this case is so painful to hear because yeah a mistake should not mark us forever but the love of the USA towards guns is so strong. Anyone risks being killed in any random interaction with the police 😔😧 You said this lady lacked the "calmed under pressure" personality needed to be an officer... but I would argue "calm and in control" does not represent the USA police force at all. I may be wrong though. Im not from the USA and I have never lived there. Just visited as a tourist. Thanks Dr Grande. Merry Christmas to you and your family! I have nothing but respect and admiration for the way you see and talk human behaviour ❤💖

[@tomgardner5006]

..."'I'm going to go to prison,' when simply saying, 'I'm going to prison' would suffice." Deadpan. Like a boss.

[@spoookytooth]

When she really should have said: "I killed someone. That poor person!" There are several videos of cops killing people reacting with "oh no, I'm going to prison". No respect for human life whatsoever.

[@tomgardner5006]

@@spoookytooth thanks for not getting it. Also, thanks for your opinion on how those who risk their lives daily should react under duress, especially since you have no experience in the matter.

[@spoookytooth]

​@@tomgardner5006 What a childish response. You appear to have no awareness of how abysmally bad and violent US law enforcement is. If you're American: shame on you, you should know better

[@tomgardner5006]

@@spoookytooth I have a vastly better informed opinion of law enforcement in the U.S. than you do, but thank you.

[@spoookytooth]

@@tomgardner5006 You're absolutely wrong. And apparently incredibly self-absorbed. Probably a bad cop. The funniest thing about that is that being a cop doesn't make you an expert in law-enforcement or anything else because the training cops receive is so incredibly brief and bad in the US. Enjoy your 3rd world country with a Gucci belt.

[@halilzelenka5813]

I don’t bother reading news articles about these things because I can count on Dr Grande to provide a balanced and insightful overview

[@jen6306]

🖤 dr grande and facts. Agree he is cool. Also think we can agree on going to the source to make your own decision because it will be filtered through your own biases and experiences and therefor be truly your own. Your Truth. Don’t be afraid to speak it. PC is annoying. This political correctness of today. And I ❤ cupcakes, esp. homemade. If u don’t bother reading, aren’t u censoring your own opinion? Anyone can call themselves a Dr on SM. Your 12 yr old can probably show you how to use a free iPhone app to create him. That’s why it’s always nice to meet in person. That’s why the world sucks-Covid, stranger danger. I can’t wait to go off the grid.

[@notjohn439]

That's a terrible way to stay informed. You should view multiple reliable sources, not rely on a single individual to tell you what's going on.

[@halilzelenka5813]

@@notjohn439 I agree with you but ultimately it’s a question of bandwidth and areas of interest. If I have a casual, dilettante, interest in a particular topic (e.g. criminal psychology), I would rather keep up in my own field by reading journal articles than splitting my time seriously researching for a topic I have a serious interest in and one in which I have a dilettante interest

[@imacomputer1234]

yes, this could happen to anyone in a high stress dynamic situation. more training might even make this more common: more training often results in a more automatic/subconscious response. when compared to what other LEOs have done without repercussion, it's surprising she was convicted. RIP Daunte, and condolences to all involved.

[@wallaceorin7887]

He had been living a lifestyle that only leads to jails, institutions or death. I feel aweful for all of the lives that have been negatively affected by his selfish, careless actions. I feel sorry for his daughter. Not just because of his selfish, dangerous and immature behavior the day of the stop. She was deprived of having a good father long before his death. Very sad

[@jguenther3049]

Yes, the so-called "subconscious" or "automatic self" (Richard O'Connor) takes over when triggered by an emergency, bypassing the frontal cortices. From there on, habit, training, and instinct are primary. The "automatic self" AKA "the Guardienne" is semi-sentient and has no conscience. Most LEOs have over-sized Guardiennes, which also predisposes them toward alcoholism and spousal abuse. Nice analysis, Dr. Grande, more nuanced than the judge's decision. It will be interesting to see if an appeal is successful.

[@sherunswithscissors]

Training can be thinking skills, and not just weapons.

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

I disagree. I'm a Army veteran 4yr 🎗 & a armed G security officer. I've toted guns, gear since 1989. I never looked at my M9 9mm or my Glock 22 .40 then had confused it with another duty item. Potter was a FTO. She worked the road for years. I doubt Potter never had a non compliant suspect. She was not inept. She was the PD union rep.

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

@@wallaceorin7887 Yes like George Floyd or Florida: Trevon Martin, the media & lawyers love to gloss over the bad points of the deceased. Even Brianna Taylor was not the sweet innocent angel the media wanted.

[@thefryinallofus]

As you said, the charges refer to requiring 'conscious' knowledge with regards to the actions. I don't think a reasonable person looking at the events of that day would see this as anything other than an accident. If manslaughter requires 'conscious' she's not guilty. You can't criminalize accidents. That's what civil liabilities are for.

[@Nall412]

@@tedged lol. Thats not good tho boss. By law this woman should not have been convicted. As the original poster was saying i have no idea how a jury could get convictions on these manslaughter charges. It makes no sense

[@Nall412]

@@tedged You cannot criminalize accidents. Different types of negligence. Civil and criminal. This woman has been wrongly charged and convicted

[@Nall412]

This is what happends in Jury trials. Very unpredictable

[@Nall412]

Her defense team i found in closing arguments didnt drive this conscious disregard home enough. In my opinion. I think they did a fairly good job during the btrial. But could have been better in closing. But I believe this jury already had her guilty from the get go. Id say a good 10 jurors knew from the beginning that they were goiing to look the other way when it came to reasonable doubt* kim potter was fucked soon as the body cam footage was released. And it couldn’t have happened at the worst time. During the george floyd derek chauvin trial.

[@loki2stunt]

Tell that to the truck driver in Colorado..😑