B-Team Avengers Save The Day! | Avengers: No Surrender

The Earth has been STOLEN! The sky burns while mysterious cosmic objects crash down from above, wreaking havoc across the world - and the Avengers are the last line of defense between Earth and the mysterious forces threatening to tear it apart. It's time to ASSEMBLE almost everyone who has ever been an Avenger! All of the Avengers you know and love come together to face threats beyond any they've faced before - including the Black Order and the Lethal Legion. These two teams of powerful villains bent on destroying each other have arrived on Earth, and they don't care who gets caught in the crossfire. And when the mysterious Challenger faces off against the Grandmaster, can the Earth survive the destruction they unleash? The Avengers are engaged in a game of cosmic proportions, but they don't know the rules...and not everyone will survive! Plus: Who is Voyager? Valerie Vector, the forgotten founding Avenger, is revealed. And fan-favorite Avenger, Hulk, returns to the fold as the stakes in the battle for Earth become clear! Tension is high and peril is imminent, but there's no option to surrender for the relentless Avengers! Never miss an episode by subscribing today! bit.ly/2WYvgkt #avengers
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[@timshady237]

The Lord said, “Let there be Back Issues.” and it was good.

[@tjjordan4207]

AMEN!!!

[@lachy3485]

It iiiiiii

[@lachy3485]

@@tjjordan4207 a

[@jamesmason7979]

"The NPCs are playing!" 😂😂😂

[@bergerchicken]

I just realized that rather than saying "Fantastic Voyage", Ethan says "Incredible Journey" - The 1961 Disney movie about two dogs and a cat making their way home 200 miles across the Canadian wilderness. I guess depending on the era Beast could be Tao the cat.

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

Kudos to Waid for turning the Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes theme song into a story.

[@comixproviderftw_02]

ASSEMBLED WE ARE STRONG! FOREVER FIGHT AS ONE!

[@jeffrosicness]

There came a day unlike none other before

[@SeekerLancer]

I wish that show had kept going.

[@InfinityReached]

Why'd you have to go on and remind me of yet another Marvel animated show that had a catchy theme, was actually good, and taken from us too soon (the first show being Spectacular Spider-Man)?

[@qliphalpuzzle5453]

First the dumbest daredevil storyline and now this

[@ianmckee4726]

The thing im most impressed with about this book is thst the other writers managed to keep Waid from turning this into another of his terrible Kang stories.

[@Bizarrejoe]

im sure that he literally had a gun against his head

[@ianmckee4726]

@@Bizarrejoe I like to imagine that the whole story was typed on a single typewriter in a locked room at marvel, amd each writer got a half hour a day. The others would come in and have to spend most of there time whiting out and rewriting all of waids stuff. Then they all take turms sleeping in front of the door to make sure waid didnt break in and redo the whole thing with Kang.

[@jonathon862]

@@daelen.cclark some people really dislike Kang. Always been that way.

[@daelen.cclark]

@@jonathon862 I can get why. It’s one of those characters you need to think carefully about when writing them.

[@InoMercy]

I love how Ben just tries to end the show when they get to the "Seeing memories" part. It's just so stupid he can't continue.

[@Ubermensch9240]

Honestly, that made me hit my head on the nearest hard surface over how dumb that was.

[@ToonGal12]

The part where Beast shrunk small enough to read Jarvis' mind, and Ben threw the book down and was ready to leave, I lost it. XD

[@Ubermensch9240]

LOL.

[@andrewwestfall65]

Hulk has weird awareness of being in a comic book. In Fall of the Hulks, his powers were taken away, and he immediately planned on getting his powers back. People asked how and why he was going to get them back and he would just go, "I don't know, but every time I lose my powers I get them back shortly afterwards. So I'll probably have them back in a couple of months."

[@luisgomez8635]

"World's largest Alka-Seltzer tablet"....?? Sal, you savage! 😂😂😂😂

[@comixproviderftw_02]

Living Lightning and Quicksilver was the MVP’s of this.

[@MrFtpforlife]

ComiXProvider FTW_02 the quicksilver spin off was awesome

[@comixproviderftw_02]

@@MrFtpforlife He was in the Marvel Speedforce.

[@captainvimes6079]

Kevin Alleyne that’s the terragen crystals thing right? Where he speeds up so fast he goes forward in time?

[@MrFtpforlife]

Captain Vimes idk

[@nathanlee1373]

No give up, no surrender, NO DISASSEMBLE!

[@comicpop]

Number Johnny Five!

[@KRSeriphem]

So... They beat him with a combination of both friendship is magic and a care bear freaking stare... That is kinda awesome.

[@flywheelshyster]

Immortal Hulk brought me back, can't stop the back issues when on a good binge [until I have to leave for work of course]

[@InfinityReached]

Big Mood. Just finished Immortal Hulk, and realized that I really like Back Issues, particularly the episodes with plenty laughs to go around. I'm off today, and prepared myself into Binge Mode. Any suggestions for any really stand out episodes of Back Issues, or should I just work my way backwards?

[@flywheelshyster]

@@InfinityReached apologies i usually respond to replies but there was a half year where i accidently turned them off. Or i meant to get back to you and just forgot. my playlists should be viewable and i have one called Best Back Issues albiet they are VERY random and in no type of order. for older back issues i love what i call the Trilogy of Terrible: Zero Hour, Convergence, and Darkseid War. But man 2020 had some of the best back issues if you haven't kept up, Bendis' Superman / Man of Steel, Heroes in Crisis, DCeased, Dark Nights Metal, etc. All the star wars episodes are a must too. Hope this helps and if you didn't get into back then maybe this will help ya now. or not. to each their own and all that jazz. better to reply late than never at all ;-)

[@TheForgottenwan]

Another stellar episode of Back Issues that is full of laughs. I so very much appreciate all the hard work you all put into this channel. Please know that what you all do brings joy to so many of us and brightens our day!

[@josephupchurch7138]

Thank you for your channel, Sal. You, Tiff, Ben and Ethan make me feel like I'm checking in with old friends and it's been nothing but good times and laughs. 'Back Issues' is my favorite part, man. The banter you all have is hilarious and entertaining. Again, thanks man. You all have gotten me through some tough times in my life.

[@sandy34740]

Funny thing about Nadia, her name is actually the short-form of the Russian word for "Hope." You know, the movie synergy doesn't bother me anymore, but I really wish they'd just admit it.

[@jtverland7224]

Didn't know that. In the MC2 universe, however, Hope Pym was a villain called (iirc) Red Queen.

[@JoshMunroe]

54:04 The perfect response to Wonder Man. I hate you so much, Wonder Man. Hulk's right; you're a total snob, Wonder Man.

[@jonfrombuckland_3784]

One hour and twenty minutes?! Why don't I bring popcorn to work??

[@thatHARVguy]

🍿

[@megamonmon]

7:56 goddamn it Ben that was a good one

[@GeminiTasiri]

16:50 I... also didn't know Toni Ho existed If they had Toni Ho this entire time... why didn't they make her Ironheart when Tony was in his coma... you'd think like being related to one of the original Iron Man inventors would give her taking up the mantle more gravitas

[@FearTheLivingDFG]

You're talking about Bendis, continuity isn't exactly his forte. That being said I'll give him a pass on not using Toni Ho. She was created less than a year before Riri's first appearance and was heavily used in both New Avengers & U.S.Avengers which didn't allow for much wiggle room for her own side stuff as well. Lila Rhodes on the other hand... The young African American genius tech wizard who's the niece of James Rhodes could have and should have been used instead of Riri. They have the exact same character and physical traits only Lila has the benefit of already being established to both Rhodey and Tony and having a direct relationship to Tony's best friend who at the time just died. The story potential of them working out his death by building suits together writes itself then after building their relationship and Tony going into a coma that Stark AI mentor thing to take his place would have a lot more meaning to it. ....but nah Bendis be Bendis and had to recreate the character minus the potential.

[@knightofkorbin888]

How many super geniuses has Marvel made in recent years?

[@thegloriouswizard5270]

@@knightofkorbin888 Yes.

[@the_rose_garden01]

@@knightofkorbin888 It'd be easier to count the heroes who aren't geniuses at this point, I think

[@zachcouch8654]

Ethan is really funny.

[@mitchbray6637]

Yes, yes he is.

[@captainvimes6079]

Mitch Bray “move your feet iron man, don’t get stuck on the ropes” from the transformers episode - Best Ethan imo. Also he was Quail Man for Halloween!!!

[@eqs1782]

a new book is coming out called, "the UnKillable Hawkeye"

[@hollowichigo24x]

So it’s not mentioned but living lightings greatest moment is actually the biggest bluff ever because when the grandmaster asked him what cards he had that he was so confident in. And he responds “I don’t even play cards” and tosses them away. KICK ASS

[@asiydah.6817]

I love the little Tangent at the tail end of the episode. That is a very awesome and welcomed addition!

[@theadmiral7471]

I’ve been watching you guys for a little over a year now. (God time flies) when you guys drop episodes like this sometimes it really makes my long day a bit more bearable. So thanks Sal, Tiff, Ben, and Ethan 😁

[@tannerhudson3382]

Ah yes, Occupy Avengers, striking while that iron is blazing hot.

[@Grievousish]

I'm gonna have to rename Wednesday to ComicPOPday cause between Back Issues and the twitch stream nothing else matters on this day!

[@lukang7408]

I second this motion.

[@matthewtdunn]

The Peak (SWORD’s space station) was destroyed in Secret Empire. Yeah, I know we don’t wanna talk about that one though...

[@langleymneely]

I now understand just how and why this back issues episode would be a beast to edit down! 16 issues! 16 weeks of Avengers celebration goodness! Excellent choice sir! Excelsior!

[@fabianleon8180]

At 12:50 I thought one of them would say that black panther never freezes

[@Ninjamaster227-]

Joining the Avengers is like renewing your drivers license, everyone does it at some point in the marvel universe. The Justice League is much more picky in DC

[@changvasejarik62]

Unless you’re a duck named Howard. Yeah the jla is more picky that’s why lex luthor, killer frost, lobo, Harley Quinn, captain cold, and black Adam were allowed to join.

[@Sicod79]

Never go against Lighting, when Earth is on the line.

[@mthcomics4002]

All of y’alls summary of part 8 (red Wolf and Hawkeye) has me DYING😂 41:50 seriously it’s my favorite issue but y’all s commentary is so perfect “dude hawkeye you just helped red Wolf kill himself!” “Nah dude said it’s cool” “First the hulk now Red Wolf!?” “*thunk* oh falcon said he wanted to get shot” you guys got a sub from me!!!! I’m in the small minority that really enjoyed occupy strictly for Wolf and Hawkeye so seeing them (mainly Wolf) get such a big moment was awesome for me (even though it literally played out exactly as you guys said xD it’s great)

[@TheVogelsnest]

Wow, a modern Marvel event where Hawkeye is somewhat in the forefront and isn’t killed or ruined by a bad story (Civil War 2). Hey, if he’s got the classic suit & is hanging out with Red Wolf, that’s better than getting erased from existence or having sex with Doombots (Avengers: Children’s Crusade). - Allegedly.

[@mthcomics4002]

Dude yes definitely give Occupy a read!! Clint and Wolf have such good chemistry and it’s really a wacky read!

[@anthonylynch423]

S.W.O.R.D is sheathed.... lmao

[@AiggEbe]

The Falcon tangent is one of Back Issue’s best.

[@kevinkruger1686]

Voyager is Marvel's Triumph from DC , but 20 years later.

[@rydergoodrich3346]

Triumph was also made by Mark Waid. Coincidence? I think not.

[@Martin_TheCollector]

I'll have to skip this episode until I finally read this book myself, but I do love all of these "back issues".

[@bacsilva]

Voyager, Challenger... did NASA write this?

[@cisnerd_2093]

A) love these longer episode B) Ben's hair looks great.

[@Ohmargod]

Guys guys guys. Thank you for making my way to work glorious and funny! You had so much fun in this episode and it's contagious.

[@xJasonHatx]

This show never gets old and ive been watching it for years. One of my favorite series anywhere. Keep pumping out content. I need it in my brain.

[@linknlog]

I absolutely loved this story, and I really enjoyed that it came out weekly. It turned me into a huge Jim Zub fan as well. His Champions run has had a very similar feel to this.

[@RealWrestlingWFI]

05:58 : Why Comic Pop is amazing lol

[@stelmaria-mx]

Falcon is Bran Stark confirmed

[@iDIEG0FUEG0]

The genuine thank you from Sal in the "it's not a tumor" bit.. just waiting for the opportunity... 😂

[@zachcouch8654]

Sal is wearing a great shirt.

[@mitchbray6637]

Yes he rocks that suit.

[@hazelcoleman6744]

Ikr, I'd wear that shirt

[@Chenso2099]

I think I own that shirt...I should start wearing it.

[@xanastarlight4833]

His shirt is louder than the weed I buy

[@tacofriday5395]

Another great episode I hope we get more future rebirth stories

[@anthonylynch423]

Love this episode!!! So excited to see a new back issues pop up. I don’t get these often enough lol.

[@TevyaSmolka]

awesome avengers no surrender

[@rodney2x48]

This was a long and stellar Back Issues. Nice one!

[@drewstevens2532]

One of my favourite marvel stories

[@Darkgreenfangirl]

Man I really need to get this book, it is so up my alley. Awesome episode as always

[@thomasarcanine]

Challenger blasting Grandmaster is exactly like Krona blasting Grandmaster...

[@AREJAYMOP]

Alas, fellow viewers! The promised day is here! We no longer have to wait for one of the stories we have longed for. Let this blessing lead us away from the temptation of asking for another episode of Ultimate Spider-Man

[@R.J.Godzilla81]

The Challenger has the power of plot requirement facilitation...in other words plot device, lol :-)

[@frailmachinemeen4288]

BACK ISSUES YYYYYEEEEEEETTTTTT!

[@langleymneely]

The Black Order book just started last week. Lol

[@antdujar]

HIlariously entertaining as always! But man, Ethan's laughing to Falcons abilities to see through the eyes of all of the birds in existence had me dying haha

[@Ubermensch9240]

The only thing I feel bad about is that Red Hulk got depowered, despite this cigar chomping, sunglass wearing version is the best version of the character. At least there is a sequel with Herc. Love me some Herc.

[@jonfrombuckland_3784]

A fifteen part mega event?! Awesomr!

[@manuelrosas5889]

Can you do a back issue on unworthy Thor or Thor God of thunder the god butcher and the godbomb please and thank you and keep up the good work guys

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

Yes. It's in the pipeline. Do not worry, friend.

[@manuelrosas5889]

Thanks for telling me man I really appreciate it

[@barofsoap12]

Yes! So excited for this!!

[@lhakumei1345]

The excitement is growing

[@darkturnwabler]

I keep forgetting falcon is kinda a mutant

[@infamouscavalier9446]

Loved No Surrender. Favorite avengers story easily

[@sammysamiam5219]

Can we all finally stop giving Aquaman shit for talking to fish? At least he can talk to the kraken, falcon can talk to a pigeon or penguin or Bluejay amazing!

[@comicpop]

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[@adrianluna5916]

Comic pop can you do DARK CLAW comic book 😻😻😻😻😻😻

[@marcushamner5994]

Whenever you guys get a chance, you should do Secret Wars amd Secret Wars II from 1984-1985! I mentioned it before 😂😂. To quote our friend Stan Lee: EXCELSIOR!!

[@comicpop]

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[@AGuyWithTheFace]

When are you guys gonna do No Road Home?! I know it's not as good but I think the guys would dig it.

[@kazen16]

Back Issues sooo good thanks guys!

[@mrboykins4619]

these long back issues help pass the day ...

[@FifthHorseman23]

Hey Ben, I haven't finished the episode, but I didn't want to forget to comment. I wanted to say that as a person who's only been reading comics for five years or so and hasn't delved too deeply into the classic books, I totally thought I had somehow missed Valerie (Vector) and bought the fake retcon right away. The reveal didn't make me angry though; it was a genuine surprise that I enjoyed.

[@QueerComics1994]

I seem to remember not too long ago there was a advertising campaign from Marvel about the USAvengers where each state was assigned a hero, kind of like the 50 state initiative. I was happy my state got Bucky.

[@rydergoodrich3346]

Nova is the Avenger of Arizona

[@thomasarcanine]

USAvengers?? So it's United States of Avengers?? That's a whole lot of Aven- oh it's just them... ohkeeeehhyyy...

[@the_rose_garden01]

Sunspot claiming to be the strongest Mutant is so fucking funny when you remember that people like Nate Gray, Absalom Mercator, Legion, etc all exist and could just snap him out of the universe.

[@hasthehighground8560]

I think he means physical strength

[@the_rose_garden01]

@@hasthehighground8560 I also think so, but that's not necessarily what most people mean when they say "Who's the strongest Mutant?" or "Who's the strongest Avenger?"

[@mikesmith145]

@@the_rose_garden01Sal and the others literally specify what sunspot was talking about tho

[@lucyinchat]

Gimme a Squirrel Girl episode, eventually.

[@kr555wizard]

I still wish they kept the idea of red hulk, I liked the idea of him.It was so cool.

[@stelmaria-mx]

When it was Ross it was cool.

[@hapokas112]

Interesting.

[@chopinthehouse1438]

YES!

[@jeffrosicness]

I really liked this comic felt like a comic some cool characters we haven't seen ina while **coolbeans**

[@Junior2000625]

Can't wait for you guys to eventually go through The Immortal Hulk

[@jonathanshaw9704]

15 parts? Damn.

[@liverusrock6789]

16

[@comixproviderftw_02]

ITS A SUPER MEGA EVENT!

[@flywheelshyster]

I ended up really enjoying this one. I feel I forget about GBU episodes and must get a new tab with the playlist to go through

[@jpetros25]

Love me some Back Issues!!!!

[@bwanabeast3169]

Kareem Hunt was let go by the chiefs

[@AGuyWithTheFace]

The black order and the grandmaster do team up in a mini series after this but it's very unremarkable.

[@tjjordan4207]

43:21 Holy shit! Marvel Universe and Gravity Falls crossover confirmed!

[@freack3333]

That thing with falcon that he can see what other birds see, is just facepalmingly stupid.

[@Full_Metal_Angel]

Inside the marvel base of operations- Boss: so we basically have this team as the space avengers but we cant call them that. Any ideas? Guy 1: galactic avengers? Boss: No! No more avenger names! Horrible idea. Guy 2: guardians of the galaxy Boss: Not horrible! OK STICK WITH IT

[@nickrottkamp4933]

They are doing a black order book now. Voyager is gonna be in it soon

[@qliphalpuzzle5453]

Ah Mark Waid....dear god

[@chibbykill]

Ya gotta get on that Al Ewing train

[@codystahl5935]

Damn... how many times has Hulk been punched into orbit...

[@yolanda8563]

In a crossover I want to see Barry Allen become the Grandmaster because then we would have Grandmaster Flash 🥁

[@fun2building]

I was super iffy on this back when it was announced but I ended up enjoying it a ton, it got a bit tiring as it went on and on but at a certain point it clicked that that fatigue was shared by the characters in the story and so when the tables finally turned it was really satisfying Looking forward to listening to y'all talk about it for over an hour Hey don't bully Nadia and also get her legal name right ya dorks

[@gar55rocks1]

Very lovable and entertaining episode Once again! Loved it

[@milesupshur9869]

“Oh honey, I don’t play.”

[@ATroknya]

With this story digging down to the bottom of the barrel for obscure Avengers, you'd think they'd have used Black Knight....guess he's too much of a big name for this? Or the writers forgot about him.

[@zachcouch8654]

Benny hair cut is looking tight.