Ban Nairo

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[@Technicals]

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[@Luxtton]

Chad technicals puts in his own dislike button

[@stareatmyprofile9872]

I love disliking your like button (youtube is dumb)

[@shadow_flame2223]

Hahaha jokes on you i can see this has exactly 13 dislikes at the time of writing this

[@CaptainWwowW]

This was just supposed to be a fun party game where Mario punches Donkey Kong

[@XadePsyconic]

It still is. I love Smash and consider myself a fan, but I don't want to associate with most of the North American Smash community because when they're not imploding with new drama every week, they're doing dumb shit like what is discussed in this video. It's especially frustrating for me becaused I used to respect these idiots.

[@allyourbasearebelongtous2191]

Nah. He be Donkey Punchin Dat monkey

[@FlamePurple]

“I’m just a Guy who wanted to make a Fun Little Party Game” - Masahiro Sakurai during Sephiroth’s Challenger Pack Presentation

[@glassroom135]

Ah look! the lighthearted sentiment that arises every time the community is supposed to reckon with something.

[@Flunkass]

@@FlamePurple 🎵 Sephiroth! 🎵

[@canyounotmydude9155]

I miss the time when the biggest Smash controversy had to do with a crustacean.

[@user-s9eu8ce9fw]

Tf are you talking about?

[@Matthias27182]

@@user-s9eu8ce9fw Someone threw a crab at HungryBox on stage one time ROFL

[@user-s9eu8ce9fw]

@@Matthias27182 OOOOooh, I remember that one.

[@xael-the-artist7708]

same

[@josephlowe2628]

It was a silly controversy

[@HWTDoomsDay95]

As the adult, it was my responsibility. Period. -Dabuz

[@L3thalShad0ws7]

@@rcube0171 watch the video bro

[@davidk4082]

@@rcube0171 don’t worry Dabuz didn’t do anything wrong. He just rejected zack.

[@davidk4082]

I’m straight(I promise. I even have a gf) but this is my chance to get this off my chest. Dabuz has the Biggest DE in the whole community. You can just see it in the way he carries himself(it?) that he gives no shits and is real.

[@carsondubs]

KING OF NEW YORK

[@IwillThinkofOneLater]

The only reasonable response. Anything else is just bullshit to save face at this point

[@swagtoaster9782]

This aged so well, especially the part where he says "If you don't ban Nairo, I will do everything in my power to make you regret that decision." Like fine wine.

[@Sockren]

its funny because hes done so much damage yet hes treated as a boogie man. imagine people in ww2 bein like "ohhh that mysterious force just captured an entire country.."

[@user-fm1ro3bx2x]

​@@Sockrenthats what they did until germany invaded poland

[@Sockren]

@@user-fm1ro3bx2x so what you are saying si that technicals needs to invade poland?

[@praetorian9823]

​@@Sockren nah, Czechoslovakia first.

[@adamyohan]

"Popular commentator, Coney, EE, TK" "Commentator, Max Ketchum." I fucking choked on my dinner.

[@lokks2130]

😂😂😂😂

[@diargakande6740]

Same

[@Saskaruto16]

IDK what Max did to him lol

[@nolimitgaming9226]

He definitely tried to fry my boy LMAO MAX the GOAT fuck outta here.

[@oishhh]

@@nolimitgaming9226 tried? no its too late, he already got cooked. no one knows who tf that nigga is.

[@jackyboii4486]

Popular commentator - TKBreezy Popular commentator - EEVisu COMMENTATOR - MaxKetchum Had me dying 😂

[@TJCozy]

YO SAME LMFAOOOOOOO

[@ghandig8771]

Yoooooo that was funny af! Technicals geeks haha

[@charliecampbell6851]

Lol, pretty funny. On a serious note, tho, I wonder if we will ever see other people become popular commentators. Seems like Ee, TK, and coney sort of have a monopoly on it at the moment.

[@ghandig8771]

@@charliecampbell6851 cinnpie was encroaching that territory before she got nixed. It’s definitely possible

[@charliecampbell6851]

@@ghandig8771 people liked Cinnpie mostly because she was Wadi's girlfriend

[@poppinpineapples3481]

“As the adult it was my responsibility” its fucking shocking that this has to be said out loud

[@somerandomguy3768]

smash players when the tournament prize is a bicurious 15 year old

[@neo6411]

People make fun of Dabuz in the smash community but he's actually one of the most mature people in this scenario smh

[@deepspacedive3345]

No disrespect to dabuz but thats pretty sad

[@jovamoment]

@@deepspacedive3345 lmfao

[@charliecampbell6851]

@@deepspacedive3345 nah, if you watch his streams or get to know his personality, you'll know it's true. He's pretty quirky in some aspects, but he's mature outside of the anime shit.

[@G.dot_]

@@deepspacedive3345 don’t disrespect the king Ny like that mane put sum respect💯

[@bashura_0019]

Off-stream he does seem to be pretty mature and how much self-awareness he has

[@TheSpedOG]

“I would burn this whole community to the ground” The thing is I believe him

[@zviedelman9015]

It might need that.

[@giomedina6980]

I felt that

[@ShishioTheSavage]

This community needs a cleansing purge. Fire is just his choice of metaphorical purifier. Not sure if this could be seen as a joke or a fact. And that's the sad part.

[@rumblebird9888]

12:24

[@chairmanmoo1362]

It's not about money... It's about sending a message.

[@MildlyOCD]

Myself included here, people grossly misunderstood what was being presented. Basically, Zack is a manipulative POS, but Nairo fed into it. Even if the flirtatious nature was joking, he never really took up the stance to put a hard stop & say, "This has gone too far." & That's just giving the benefit of the doubt that they weren't dating in the first place. & To explain shortly, if I'm finally understanding correctly, & since most Smash players seem to lack reading comprehension: Nairo, ZeRo, & Zack should all be banned from tournament settings entirely, but they all should be allowed to make content & live their lives outside of it.

[@maxhall622]

6 hours ago huh

[@cdc.drippy_]

@@maxhall622 fr lol

[@sure6411]

@@maxhall622 Weird

[@MildlyOCD]

@@maxhall622 membership, bro.

[@ViewtifulFGC]

@@maxhall622 sub to the patreon.

[@christophertufaro1337]

Nairo said he has potential, but I don’t think he was talking about smash.

[@GammaRayBill]

The physical kind of smash

[@gungaginga-zr2cz]

​@@GammaRayBill that's crazy💀

[@Dannst]

The fact that this video continues to age well overtime really shows how bad the smash community really is.

[@chiimichunga]

Hey could you explain how this aged well? 😅 I havent been paying attention to the smash community since like the end of 2021, I know that there were allegations against Nairo but then he make another response saying they were false, but that’s all I knoe

[@hyperstargaming6150]

@@chiimichungabottom line, Nairo was guilty as fuck, it’s not debatable at all. Technicals has also remained the most consistent and correct among all commentary channels and has yet to be proven wrong. Technicals is extremely methodical and does his research, making him extremely credible and it’s only gotten stronger as time has passed.

[@frankieloinandgroin]

​@@hyperstargaming6150 I have poor media literacy, and I did watch both of Technicals' videos on this, but I just have a question. It's very clear that Nairo is guilty, but does the information/consensus of Zack being a predator still hold up or has that changed?

[@hyperstargaming6150]

@@frankieloinandgroin it holds up immensely, Nairo wasn’t the first time Zack sought after male adults, Nairo was the only one he managed to go give a blowjob to cause Nairo was dumb enough to let shit happen after the first incident. Zack successfully dated 3 adults while he was underage, outing at least 2 of them on his own, Ally and Nairo.

[@Dannst]

All of the people involved in the case were proven to be terrible. It's just that one was more terrible than the other

[@EtienneYT]

I think even if people don't agree with most of the shit you say, the main principles that you've illustrated in your videos is that there are definitely moral inconsistencies/biases within the smash community that are so jarring to the point where they need to be addressed. If people can't seem to agree with or even acknowledge that virtue alone, then there's definitely something wrong with the upper echelon of the smash community.

[@Soswuo]

I just got done watching videos from you so its funny to see you here, but i agree with what you said.

[@falcotic6702]

holy based ettienne moment

[@somebonehead]

The Guitar Hero II Deluxe Edition Discord server is a toxic shithole and you were in the right to leave. It really needs to be addressed publically how toxic the moderation is over there.

[@defaultusername4203]

Etienne on a fucking Technicals video goddamn

[@Strider1Wilco]

It's cause people want powerful positions to escape their shitty problems. They don't wanna acknowledge they're shitty people so they blame the beasts.

[@kissconsider]

This is funny because this is the exact stance LTG of all people had when nairo was first banned and no one listened to him.

[@mashonem]

“Broken clock” n such with LTG tho

[@yungmuney5903]

Well it's ltg soo...

[@anthonystone9897]

Everyone buys into the bad guy Schtick but ltg is right about a lot of things if you actually listen to him when he’s being serious

[@theluigifan42]

the rare LTG w

[@Jesus-hu4lq]

Ltg has those moments but since he's an asshole no one would believe him except a few who would listen to him.

[@MrJohnthegamerHD]

"If you do not ban Nairo from tournaments, I will do everything in my power to make you regret that decision." Truly prophetic words.

[@ofresco2]

how can one man be so based

[@Jl2damax]

Lol yes

[@jmann531]

He is a man of conviction...

[@ApexGale]

Did something happen recently?

[@wacktastic1]

If the Dabuz can find hint of inappropriate behavior, you have no excuse. This is Dabuz we're talking about, the same guy who prayed to his anime waifu during competition

[@JACOBLEWIS671]

Lol right

[@unkn0wn_persona545]

This

[@Smashfan258]

People made fun of the guy who just loved his waifu, but at least he didn’t touch no kids!

[@charliecampbell6851]

People like to flame dabuz, but he's honestly the most mature pro smasher I can think of. He legit has a really good head on his shoulders. Doesn't get involved in anything stupid, makes the right decisions most of the time, etc.

[@perpetual_suffering1458]

@@charliecampbell6851 dabuz really is a homie, i hope more people start realising this

[@Sun_Downer]

Technicals Joker arc.

[@coop1563]

happened to my buddy eric once

[@kachosuffer7]

@Mr. Slick wdym

[@dvdmoreno2010]

Doesn't Joker get locked up in Arkham at the end?

[@balther10]

@@dvdmoreno2010 can you really lock him up in Arkham if he just leaves

[@BBWahoo]

Looking cool Joker!

[@DarkSage861]

To think this detailed analysis was done by a guy who used to be called XFaZeLinkX

[@christopher7252]

The fact that a 15 year old was left unsupervised throughout this whole event, and in addition the escalation to oral sex shows this community cares more about virtual loli dlc than protecting children.

[@cloutjumper4852]

What 🤣

[@saulvasquez4350]

I was s banging chicks much older than me when I was 15. I wasn’t a kid and I knew what I was doing

[@cloutjumper4852]

@@saulvasquez4350 you know you Mom doesn't count, right?

[@saulvasquez4350]

@@cloutjumper4852 does your mom count?

[@Lilhajxjk274]

That 15 year old is the one scked. Nairo in his sleep without consent

[@redblood6654]

Man there's so many lies, but you present the info with such a clear cut and easy to understand manner. Appericate the work your doing!

[@fupalover]

What are the lies?

[@greatlife1047]

Wait how is your comment older than the video?

[@sebastianrodriguez8692]

@@greatlife1047 Hol up. Damn, it's true. Dafuq?

[@alexboisvert9288]

@@sebastianrodriguez8692 Patreon

[@SmoothAsFelt]

@@fupalover I don't think he means Technicals is lying, I think he means other people are lying and its hard to find out the truth but Technicals makes it easy

[@francesco3588]

This community should really fucking appreciate having this one dude, who can actually think for himself and isn't afraid to publicly state his views and goes against the general opionion with critical, logical thinking.

[@Gospelgg]

Wish every community had a Technicals

[@jovamoment]

@@Gospelgg fr

[@znerd3664]

Ive said it before and I'll say it again: he is for smash what verlisify is for pokemon Both their communities hate them. Both their communities need them. And every community needs someone like them

[@chenklazer2069]

it's quite obvious they dont, considering they treat him like "another keemstar"

[@jovamoment]

@@znerd3664 technicals good and furry dude bad. Verlisify is a shit person and can’t even keep up a good argument, but technicals has so much evidence supporting his case.

[@m.xdmcbangalter3653]

They hated Technicals because he told the truth

[@dhruvsubramanain2117]

people need to stop talking down on dabuz's social cues. He is such a nice guy and is the definition of "just chillin playing smash"

[@madMILL3R]

I don’t think he’s talking down at all, you would be ignoring the elephant in the room if you think that he’s not even a bit socially off. Even with that he showed great social awareness with the statement he made. It shows the clear contrast that someone like Nairo someone, who does seem very socially intelligent, still didn’t make the same correct decision Dabuz made given a similar situation. This is one of the most important parts because it reminds you that Nairo was the adult not the victim.

[@davidgjonaj6134]

@@madMILL3R deadass there is no way even with the disclaimer that it isnt talking down to a certain extent, buddy had more self awareness than anybody in that community although he did ruin that entire thing after he vouched to unban him lmfaooo

[@Caught_You200]

Dude prayed to a loli plushie before a set. I think there’s some underlying issues there, but I’m sure he’s a good guy.

[@davidgjonaj6134]

@@Caught_You200 ok that is super fair

[@Jajuan44]

@@Caught_You200 But he won the set so clearly it works

[@damnumonkeyballs]

"Never meet your heroes kid, cuz heroes are people and people are shit" - Cid Highwind

[@onesonicguy]

When does Cid say that?

[@damnumonkeyballs]

@@onesonicguy FF7 Abridged

[@onesonicguy]

@@damnumonkeyballs Ah.

[@poyobotyahoo7494]

So basically: both Nairo and Zack deserve to be BANNED and the smash community is filled with hypocrites. in other news, the sky is blue. and Technicals likes peanut butter

[@Zevoices]

actually I thought sky was black?

[@bruhbridgesburner9831]

Lol LTG

[@johnnynguyen2621]

Nairo does not deserve to be banned but zack does. Zack was the one that instigated and before you come saying Nairo should’ve denied it, Nairo as he himself said is not used to sexual advances and is very dense in situations in which people try making advances. He didn’t realize and as he said was shocked and froze up when Zack was raping him. All in all Nairo is still innocent. #UnBanNairo

[@illmatics2456]

@@johnnynguyen2621 You're a lil ass kid that doesn't understand the real world. Nairo is a grown ass man.. don't let him fool you. He consented every bit of it

[@trevorhannan6428]

@@johnnynguyen2621 This is a he said she said argument with zero facts behind it. In a situation like this it is typical for the adult to be punished for not saying no since children are legally not able to have any form of sexual interaction with an adult. Surely an adult would be able to realize what is wrong over a 14 year old child. Just like tech said dubuzz even could tell in the same situation. The difference is nairo wanted to have a relationship of some kind with this particular child. Its even funnier when Nairo says he did something wrong and takes it back saying it wasnt him lmao. The answer is right in front of your face i really recommend watching the video again while checking all your bias. I was skeptical coming into the video but it seems very obvious by now what is true. In the world of twitch at least they will keep him banned until he is proven innocent as they are allowed from their terms of service. Until he is proven innocent smash will not allow this guy to come back as a pro repping their game.

[@kai2082]

Love the video! Even after the Zero video these guys wanna still fuck around and blatantly lie and delete afterwards acting like we arent on top of their shit. Keep up the great work!

[@letsgobubblegum]

As a parent of a young kid who is super into smash bros this whole thing makes me sad. To think that this happens in a scene for a childrens game is disgusting and scary. Thank you for exposing this and never stopping.

[@c.k.harrower8672]

Thank you so much for looking deeper into situations like this. These words right here are ones spoken by a truly responsible parent. So many problems with many of today's parents could be solved if there were more ppl like you tbh.

[@diamondminer5459]

Chances are, you have nothing to worry about.

[@letsgobubblegum]

@@diamondminer5459 I agree but my statement still stands. They're should be no place for this type of behavior in any eSports scene but especially smash which is marketed towards children

[@Ki-gz8ve]

@@diamondminer5459 nigga what, the two biggest smash players have evidence proving that they willingly did inappropriate stuff with children...parents should definitely be afraid whats wrong with you 🙁

[@ichirosuzuki2252]

@@Ki-gz8ve people should be more worried about taking their kids to church lol

[@ButtonZBruh]

You're the perfect example of chaotic good

[@TheOnlyDTM]

fighting the good fight

[@Cheesesteakfreak]

That crap is annoying. Stop sticking people in boxes to attempt to simplify your life. Deal with complexity and unknowns.

[@ieatcereal4dinner489]

@@Cheesesteakfreak i'm sorry what

[@Smashfan258]

@@Cheesesteakfreak you good bro?

[@greatlife1047]

You’re the third

[@IGP]

13:24 YO OK HOLY SHIT

[@eagerinspirit]

that was the wake up moment for me. i already understood the general repercussions of this specific case, but this made me see the bigger picture. the nairo situation only was caught because of both the people involved's noteriety. this could've happened before, and been covered up easily with no reprecussions.

[@IGP]

@@eagerinspirit same.

[@michaelhernandez7978]

Oh man..

[@insmashbaby4347]

@@eagerinspirit yeah same, my God it all just clicked with me

[@liquidjackson7172]

Watershed moment

[@themostdeadmeme1609]

Technicals is a man of sheer, unadulterated passion and conviction. The fact that he won't ever jump the gun on a subject, and after being maligned and treated as the community pariah, never letting himself be swayed in his moral stance is beautiful to see. Technicals is one of the only instances I've ever seen on this platform that actually inspires justice. And I hope that'll inspire more people to do the same quality of work and investigation that Tech does.

[@Dannyuh7]

Very well put.

[@theswooper1151]

nice profile picture

[@themostdeadmeme1609]

@@theswooper1151 Thanks bro you too

[@kneegmode3232]

he makes good points but it's not that serious he's just a guy who doesn't care about what people think and actively tries to piss his haters off

[@user-wd4yd9qz3w]

He could make a pretty good lawyer.

[@onewingedakuma6835]

Technicals you are doing gods work exposing people like Nairo.

[@ziblorg8667]

Still crazy how ZeRo is the devil and nairo just did a little oopsie.

[@wedead4309]

Hivemind.. People will believe what they want to believe.. Even disregarding all the ups and downs surrounding the incident/incidents, Zero's case is nowhere near Nairo's case in terms of how messed up the crime is.. But people loved Nairo and Zero was apparently disliked even before the infamous Smash controversy last year.. So, we really shouldn't let idiots on the internet do ANY sort of bidding or judging..

[@yoder6162]

@@wedead4309 They just didn't like him because he was winning a lot. A lot of people didn't care for him, especially after his year long winning streak. They treated Mew2King the same for a while with Melee too.

[@dugtrioramen]

I think people were harsh against Zero cuz he gave such a long bs response to all the allegations first. Nairo kinda just let it happen, and came back with a legal team. It was always best to handle this legally and Nairo seems like he's ready to do that

[@yoder6162]

@@dugtrioramen Disagree with that. Nairo did the same thing ZeRo did, but remember in the Jisu Document, it was revealed that they purposefully fabricated information and Jisu engineered multiple people into doxxing and creating stories and changing its context to make the situation more damning than it really was and timed it so whenever someone says something, it would be easier to pressure them, like ZeRo dumping women if he can't get with them. She just described 98% of regular men there.

[@zentazym1]

@@yoder6162 Could you imagine going to extreme lengths to ruin someone’s life over video games? Especially when that person isn’t even competing at a professional level anymore and is just making videos online for a living… it’s actually insane to me tbh

[@LilGabri94]

This guy is a straight menace and I love it 😂

[@chronosyrus7843]

I will say that I was one that was hyperfocused on Zack being the biggest problem in that situation; I had thought, yes Nairo did fuck up, but he wasn't completely to blame here, Zack was a huge issue. Though it still didn't feel right, for Nairo to get off so easily. I'm glad this video opened my eyes to this.

[@TheVoidisEternal]

Nairo was an adult! He allowed a child in his bedroom without said child’s parents. That’s irresponsible and should be, at the least, ban worthy. He accepted all the consequences of having said child in his room. That shit is wrong! Don’t feel bad, let this situation help you to avoid the same stupid shit he chose.

[@edgelord8337]

The fact that Zach was there just shows how bad parenting fallen.

[@Smashfan258]

This is what I was thinking myself. I think we all wanted to strongly course correct what was happening by pointing the finger at one individual and not at all individuals. This video opened my eyes to information I didn’t know, admittedly I didn’t look into things further altogether when I should have.

[@catastrokan8947]

@@TheVoidisEternal I'm sorry to break it to you and a lot of people, who can't act educated on the most basic things but a 15 or 16 year old isn't a child. If you can live by the mentality, that you magically become an adult after you hit 18 both phsically and emotionally then you should be able to tell the difference.

[@Ego-Fiend]

@@catastrokan8947 Hard agree 15 and 16 year olds are dumb but they're not children

[@brentleymeersman2169]

he may not be the hero we deserve but he sure as hell is the villain we need holy fuck mad respect

[@offdeez21]

Hey technicals, great research as per usual. Just to clarify I just wanted to ask you, do you hold Zero and Nairo with the same level of accountability (meaning they should be banned from events, but shouldn't be robbed of a career), or do you think Nairo should be banned from streaming as well due to there being more evidence indicating that he actually had relations with a minor? Hope you see this comment.

[@jefflee67]

He has said in previous replies that yes they should be treated similarly and that Nairo shouldn't be banned from content. His problem is that he's getting unbanned from tournament series.

[@Technicals]

This is actually a hard question. Because while I agree I hold Nairo’s actions to a higher degree, I’m not sure youtube does anything without a conviction or enough media attention. So my initial conclusion is that they should both be allowed to continue on YT until ruled otherwise.

[@daotherkorean2509]

@@Technicals if the guy that shot and tried to kill Ronald Reagan is able to hold a KZbin channel, I'm sure Nairo will be allowed by the YT bigwigs to keep his.

[@ClassicBentobox]

@@daotherkorean2509 I think banning KZbin would be futile. Unless he was using it to solicit minors, and even then he could switch to another tactic if it was that serious. At least if he’s on KZbin it’s a little easier to keep an eye on him. With that said, I don’t think Tech discovered a pattern of behavior. I think he just displayed more incriminating information from a singular case, with an admittedly toxic victim (Zack)

[@Mayonaisa502]

@@daotherkorean2509 the difference is that that guy was a hero because ronald reagan 🤢🤮

[@AE86_]

The cockroach never misses. #RoachGang

[@greatlife1047]

Ayo you’re the first comment

[@zelz3011]

I can't go further...

[@theluigifan42]

still don't know why people in the community hate technicals, it's like supporting anti-consumer policies... as a consumer

[@Saltyoven]

it's the same type of people who say "all journalists are evil attention seekers." people need to remember even though some journalists are like that, they are usually the ones who expose corruption in the first place.

[@chromberries7329]

They say he's biased and has "bs arguments" despite him providing evidence and explaining his thoughts. I trust the dude because I don't think he's actually that invested in all of this, sure he wants to see the world burn, but it doesn't seem like he has any incentives for doing what he does outside of that.

[@joshuashoults6709]

@@chromberries7329 I don’t think it’s a matter of trust dude lol. He’s just presenting facts. You don’t have to trust technicals at all?? That’s the point bud. You’re feelings don’t matter, the facts do

[@damarihanson3876]

@@chromberries7329 Well the thing is that I think he’s biased and I think he completely despises the smash community (not for completely irate reasons), but out of so many people in the smash community, I can trust him. Technicals, the “villain” of the community I can trust. Why? Because of everybody, he does not try and block and hide everything and create echo chambers for his own opinions (although I am doing that right now, damn) unlike people like Esam or DDee who mercilessly control a crowd and are shepherds of impressionable people who want to seek validation and hide away the reality of these mini-celebrities and allow them to warp their perception of situations

[@zuki4607]

Good content but I’m not going to feed into everything he says(keyword: everything). He presents facts and forms his opinions around them. Respectable but can’t always agree

[@joesmother23]

Who knew a children party fighting game that was first released in 1999 would have this huge impact today

[@claytoncd]

Based

[@ohthatickles]

You do realize there's events for this game intended for kids? And adults attend.

[@FullMetalNull]

@@ohthatickles And? That doesn't change what it is.

[@oliz5063]

This has absolutely nothing to do with the game and absolutely everything to do with all the problematic adults involved

[@yokuutsu9097]

Now the players are having a children party

[@bigmandem01]

Damn. Zero got his life back cause of you, and now Sky Williams. Lots of ppl have been shitting on you, but what they don't realize is that you revived the lives they destroyed. While people should be held accountable, I don't think we should be taking their jobs from them. "Taking a man's livelihood is akin to killing him" - Dave Chappelle

[@dap0zx]

Black Jesus

[@Technicals]

Nairo can still upload. He just shouldn’t be allowed at events

[@MrSterling254]

@@Technicals doesn't he already not go to events?

[@ChipnDipz1]

@@MrSterling254 He doesn't on a technicality due to not being on Twitch.

[@guayasplm4496]

@@MrSterling254 The thing is Collision unban him.... If Zero is banned how the f*** Nairo isn't, is just so weird...

[@Lewt_2B]

I always thought it was weird that people jumped on the "unban Nairo" train so quickly. Same thing with ZeRo after your video. The public is just a hivemind that doesn't really think at all. They just believe what someone else tells them, and that's where the thought process ends most of the time. Very often they don't even go into the details of what is being said. You clarified your position here but I feel like it's weird that people even need to hear that in order to understand why ZeRo can't be at events.

[@aw98000]

Oh no buddy we understand we just don't agree

[@jensatzema2625]

@@aw98000 ZeRo should be back at events, why not after all?

[@Tohlemiach]

I jumped on both bandwagons because I wanted to see them go back to making content. If Jeffrey Epstein and Hitler both made youtube channels, I'd watch both. I have no power to affect them or what they do, so consuming their content is a net-zero action. It doesn't matter what I think of their personal history or moral quality. If they record a video and upload it on KZbin and it looks entertaining, I'm going to watch it. I mean FFS, the Wolf of Wallstreet guy is literally a content creator now. He's got interesting stuff to say so I give it a listen. These aren't people I'm friends with or have anything to do with them personally. If they're gonna put themselves out in public for the world to watch, I'll watch.

[@guayasplm4496]

I disagree personally with that part, Zero's record in tournaments is clean, his thing was a situation that happened outside of a Smash event while Nairo is literally being weird with a kid ON the smash enviroment. In Nairo's case especifically the guys that manage the tournaments should do something, in the case of ZeRo is a different shit that should be determined on court. Obviosly the guys that run this tournaments can do whatever they want... But they need to follow their own rules! If Zero is banned the of course Nairo should be banned...

[@brehella770]

The instance with ZeRo happened years ago, not to mention the fact that he’s never done anything of this questionable nature at a tournament. I agree with a lot of what Technicals is saying, but I don’t see why ZeRo shouldn’t be able to attend tournaments, other than for his own safety. It’s been shown that he has had no weird interactions with underrated people in the span of the Smash community and has changed as a person. It’s like saying someone should be in jail for their entire life for a crime they committed 4 years ago, without any consideration of they are now or who they will be in the future.

[@ShinSHOGO]

I’m glad that Dabuz had that quote. Cause that’s one thing that I kept saying about Nairo’s case for a while. He’s the adult, and he allowed it all to happen. It was completely his responsibility.

[@coladapo3]

Dabuz encouraged a 17 year old to kill himself none of these people are clean

[@jaspercoggins3590]

@@coladapo3 hold up when was this?

[@justinianthe1st790]

@@coladapo3 you cant just say that and not provide a source.

[@johnnynguyen2621]

Dabuz actually believes Nairo is innocent so I feel like you’re using a source that contradicts what you think. But that aside I think tech is wrong and actually skips over the main argument in which Nairo is straight confirmed by all of his friends and even Zack. In other words Zack instigated as he does, blackmailed as he does, and Nairo being quite dense to sexual advances according to himself did not see it happening. Therefore I feel like Nairo is still clear.

[@coladapo3]

@@johnnynguyen2621 Zack at minimum has a rapey account in his own words of the encounter

[@NotViridium]

honestly ngl i supported and still watched nairos content because i enjoyed it. this whole situation sits at the back of my mind years after it happened. i'm done supporting nairo. i feel like a shitty person for still watching his content.

[@tinyt.w.i.m7291]

Ban Nairo…but let him keep his YT channel. I’ll decide for myself what I want to do from here regarding being subbed to him or whatever. Thank you, Technicals. You don’t have to tell me what to think. Just continue bringing the facts.

[@ensanesane]

I'm I guy that has been in a situation where I was being sexually harassed (in public no less) and "frozen up" and "let it happen". It was a horrible experience and I'll never forget it as long as I live. People not thinking this happens is actually ridiculous.

[@chromberries7329]

I think people take more issue with the fact he didn't do anything afterwards and let the situation happen a second time. Paired with the flirting, if you may, it seems fishy. But I totally agree with you, while never having experienced something like that myself its believable he just froze and shut down.

[@sptflcrw8583]

If it was one time, then fair enough. But it wasn’t once, he “let it happen” again, and continued flirting with him.

[@Chario_]

@@sptflcrw8583 Nairo's claim is that the subsequent instances were because Zack was trying to blackmail him. I'd hardly dismiss that as just "letting it happen" again. For the record: I'm still fairly undecided on this situation and have a lot of thoughts that I need to sort out, but I just wanted to clear that up since a lot of people are acting like how Nairo just did it again with Zack all willy-nilly

[@sptflcrw8583]

@@Chario_ who the hell cares?

[@Chario_]

@@sptflcrw8583 Apparently you care enough to make a reply lol. In all seriousness, I'm just pointing out how the subsequent instances wasn't just Nairo "letting it happen" and were, according to Nairo, as a result of Zack blackmailing Nairo, which would mean that Nairo unwillingly partook in it instead of just going along with it as you implied in your original comment. If you can't tell the difference between someone doing something willingly vs doing something because they were blackmailed, then you're either ignorant or just straight disingenuous

[@DKMRFCBrlz]

Dude just imagine the dozens of adults that saw these two hanging around super happy… and no one called it out. Everyone’s fault here

[@danabarakat1816]

What was said in this video does make sense, not sure how anyone can fully deny that. All the things that have surfaced over the years, the allegations, the accusations, etc. have proven one important thing: the smash community is not immune to bad things happening or scandalous things happening and that the way the community goes about it all at times can be... not the best. Being a great smash player does not equate them to being a great person. It's time idolization stops and accountability is made to happen, always, regardless of the status of the player.

[@finnmarr-heenan2397]

Some of them aren’t even great, they have a circle of gate keeping, access to the pre release builds, network of best players practice and learn from, armies of simps telling them what’s optimal in chat for every situation. Half of them just find some broken tech with a teir whore character and just rinse and repeat. Like sure they have honed skill of winning but there’s waaaay more to being great than just grinding out set play on lesser players

[@michalkopij7356]

Idolization in general needs to stop.

[@jeanosorio1]

when this all came out i was shock about everything IMO i dont know how the situation was and how they felt but being young people do stupid shit like this.. i always been a fan of him thats why i was skeptical a first but soon realized how bad the situation was i really cant imagine waking up with somebody giving u oral sex and u not waking up having ur pants pulled down.. also the next morning too. captain zack also is at fault. to be honest i think the broadcasting a smash tournament on tv was the highest the community will have. in my personal experience people are fake they only see the top players and they get more privilege' than others like for example i took a game out of the #1 player in my region that was a big deal for me, it was a chance to be sponsored but a guy who was #2 or 3 did the same thing and he got it not me. idolizing is a really bad thing and the community is ass.

[@KingVergil]

Well, no you just believe in a guy who bathes in toxicity. Captain Zack disappeared out of pure guilt after the nairo situation. I love that just because he didnt release the 30 page document everyone wants to just throw him under the bus. Its not idolization its understanding the situation. Technicals does nothing but try to get clout by hating people EVEN if they are innocent. Not everyone he calls out is innocent but no everyone he calls out is guilty. Zack was 15 and nairo was 20.a 5 year difference but just because his age hes a predator right? Or just because he didnt know what to do under pressure makes him a predator right? All of this and yet he still resides and Zack disappeared. Yall are on techs d*ck.

[@Shmicah1235]

Mad respect to Dabuz for being the only mature person around this entire fucked up scenario

[@reiendowo]

Also Dabuz: #unbannairo

[@alexknight81]

Did you finish the video yet?

[@huh9400]

yeah but he double backs and joins the unban nairo hashtag lmao

[@bonnjust4001]

You didn't finish the video.

[@ErdeneIsMad]

Dabuz looks like the type to talk to kids. "WATCH ME FLIP THIS LAPTOP"

[@falconmain252]

Once this is all done. Hopefully we can actually make a good guidelines for events like these. Not just using feelings and mob powers

[@blazingbowman9295]

@Hue I hope

[@Sorakingdom4]

I actually thought the “Unban Nairo” tag was referring to getting him unbanned from Twitch, not tourneys…guess that shows how much I actually know about anything.

[@hatboi124]

Well, I think the tournaments are being streamed on twitch, so he can't attended them since he is still banned on twitch. So unban Nairo is a movment to get Nairo unbanned on twitch, for the purposes of enabling him to enter tournaments again.

[@buddyguy5557]

This is a community that is more concerned about the inclusion of Fire Emblem characters than the wellbeing of players. Seems like the best time for a purge

[@juannaym8488]

I mean the wellbeing is more important but man fuck the FE characters

[@imsoready1114]

I like Corrin though :(

[@MarcoDToon]

The amount of important figures in the community who support the unban Nairo thing is insane when you consider how none of them seems to be willing to even welcome back ZeRo to KZbin with a comment

[@gojiboy69]

A lot of bias. Especially since ZeRo did in a way kinda help Alpharad in his early KZbin days. ZeRo points that out in a video. I forget which one.

[@bebopknux5857]

To take it a step further Zero was pushed to the *Literal* edge and basically *none* of his "Friends" were trying to help him(Nux as I'm aware was there but I mean in the smash scene and welcoming him back) (he said this in the video once he came back) So then I can infer from those words and this that most of the people who are in the smash community are having 50 shades of unreliability. Am I wrong?

[@delzermitch]

to be honest i do think alot of them did that because of the info they had infront of them, they decided to pick a side on a complete dumpster fire of a case at the time, only to realize that oh shit this is completely utterly messed up and they walked away from it

[@MarcoDToon]

@@bebopknux5857 Yeah, it's sad that people who are asking for Nairo to be unbanned were actually long-time friends of ZeRo but havent even left a "I'm glad to see you're ok" under his video

[@bashura_0019]

Probably because those known pro players just jump into conclusions without even pointing out a single discrepancy of nairo

[@enma2982]

I'll admit, a lot of my initial "support" for Nairo stemmed from the fact that I always knew Zack was shady. Even my friend who only vaguely knew the story was skeptical of Nairo's innocence. Regardless tho good job in pointing out Nairo's lack of clarity about the situation and just the Smash community's lack of consistency in general. They only call you the Keemstar of the Smash community because they can never actually disprove your points lmao.

[@AnchorTea]

There's no concrete proof that Nairo was raped yet why would he LIE about it? Wouldnt it be an extremely foolish decision to lie about being raped to save your career? Why do we have to put pressure on victims?

[@ShadowCeltic]

@@AnchorTea when you are raped, yes that is something that messes you up mentally, but that doesn't justify Nairo. There was always an age difference for the years they knew each other and Nairo still allowed himself to hang around Zack. Also Zack doesn't have a good reputation around the community as well and Nairo still allowed himself to be around him. There is only a certain amount of leyway that can be given to someone when you intentionally put yourself in situations that is not beneficial to you whatsoever. If you are friends, learning new setups for the game you both love, fine that's cool, but when shit goes down the way it did, don't pull the victim card and expect ppl to jump on your bandwagon.

[@enma2982]

@@AnchorTea You just said it yourself, there's no concrete proof so who's really to say who's the "victim" in this situation? All I was trying to say was that it sounds really convenient to have 30 pages of "evidence" that only your closest friends have seen. And for the record I really hope Nairo is innocent because like I said, I always knew Zack was a pos. But the fact of the matter is that Nairo did the bare minimum and everyone was fine with it

[@rey-sg8rp]

well samsora points arent real and not believing a rape victim for freezing is just being a dickhead

[@banditoftheeast7488]

You have really made me realize things. TBH, I always thought Zack was sketchy, and when Nairo said he was raped, I believed him, and felt that your video on captain zack matched my beliefs. I need to be honest, I did no research, and I probably won't only because I have other projects I focus on. However, you have made it clear to me that sometimes, the person who calls you an idiot, is the same person telling you that you have the ability to learn more.

[@ForeverAbroad]

Not saying that you didn't do your research. But as someone familiar with trauma and sexual assault. There are 4 common reactions known in psychology when encountering a traumatic event such as sexual assault. Fight, flight, freeze and fawn. Nairo exhibited classic signs of both freeze and fawn in the scenario of both the initial event and the following day. Freeze is when someone goes into a "shock" like state and doesn't do anything. Fawn is when you actively let things happen to you, similar to freeze but even worse so. Equally, to your point that the therapist was "so good" that he didn't realize it after... I didn't know any of these reactions existed let alone were normal prior to learning about them... So yes, it is definitely possible he didn't realize what had happened until going to therapy. Sorry if this is an assumption. But, it's clear you don't understand sexual assault, trauma, or mental health in general. So please do not speak about it so matter of factly. Otherwise, good video Here are classic signs of a fawn reaction: You might: agree to whatever your partner asks of you, even if you’d rather not constantly praise a manager in hope of avoiding criticism or negative feedback feel as if you know very little about what you like or enjoy avoid sharing your own thoughts or feelings in close relationships for fear of making others angry have few, if any, boundaries around your own needs

[@ryangarza5513]

Well said!

[@centurion9726]

Bro if freeze and fawn is being a grown man and letting a fucking kid have their way with you , no matter your mental bro you do not belong around children at all. Ban Nairo but let him continue to do what he does on twitch and youtube etc. There is no debate when it comes to shit like this. Say all the shit that you want but letting incidents go unchecked like this only creates a precident. Can't wait for future players to play the same card and get off scott free.

[@ForeverAbroad]

@@centurion9726 those are not reactions you can control, they just happen, and could easily happen to you as well. However, your point is irrelevant. He is already banned from tournaments and twitch. He's only doing KZbin... So I don't get the outrage?

[@centurion9726]

@@ForeverAbroad As for your initial point, I agree. It can happen to me or for everyone else. If this happened to me, ban my ass from being around children because obviously I cant keep my act together. As for the second point. It seems there was a push to get him to get back into in person events. Personally cannot confirm if this is true but if it is , it's the wrong move. As I have iterated before, Nairo should still be allowed to do Twitch and live his life doing content. The smash community needs to be held accountable is all that needs to happen. When children are being diddled and the higher echelon of the community says "that's alright champ come on back" it's fucking disgusting.

[@ryangarza5513]

@@centurion9726 So you think Nairo should be punished for being a victim of sexual abuse and extortion? I don't gaf about who is this age and who is that age, a person was assaulted and assault is bad in case you didn't know. And for you to tell a victim of assault what they should or shouldn't have done, gaslight them for their response, and shift any kind of blame onto them makes you a scuzzball

[@kronek99]

Imagine Nintendo looking into this and canceling their partnership with the smash community. Technicals ain't playing here

[@Puncake]

Smash Reddit would start riots

[@nit0134]

To be honest, as much as I love that Nintendo is finally supporting something Smash related, I kinda want that to happen. Simply because no one is going to do anything about this, if Nintendo actually cancelled it because of this that's at least some kind of consequence for people trying to ignore everything.

[@matthewjenkins4391]

I'm not going to pretend like I know how rape victims will respond or act after it happened, but I don't think Technicals can do the same either. Let's remind ourselves of how cancellation nearly led to Zero suicide, and in the best case scenario, strip you of all your friends as well as your job and income. At least until your name can be dragged out of the mud. Which only happened several months later. So he likely knew what the blackmail would do to him and wanted to keep his life intact. Which some would say, his life should be shattered for what happened, but again he was supposedly just raped the prior day. Anyone's mental state would be fried. Also, the difference between this and other pedophile cases as Technical's asked, is usually the victim doesn't come back asking for seconds, with blackmail. If we're going to use Nairo's account of the second encounter, then we have to look at the fact that it shows Zack is the one pushing this, and not Nairo. Should he have done more to stop it, yes, but again context, he was just raped, and his entire livelihood was just threatened, which again, as we saw, will drive people to suicide. Also, yes Technicals, he was confused if he was at fault for the rape, as you literally spent the first half of the video trying to show how he may have caused this. Maybe he was having the same internal argument about how he fed into Zack behavior and blamed himself for it. So if you believe Nairo should have immediately known it wasn't his fault, then I feel like education in mental health and the responses people have to trauma is in order, and also half your video should be ignored, because then why is he at fault for enabling Zack? The rape wasn't his fault. You see the issue that saying he should have known it wasn't his fault brings up?

[@cristianrivas2870]

I understand your point, however the problem with that is that Nairo has been seen to be "flirting" with Zack during that same event BEFORE the thing took place, this "flirting" was allegedly seen and testified by multiple people. This suggests that Nairo has some weird tendencies to say the least, and makes him less believable.

[@matthewjenkins4391]

@@cristianrivas2870 I'm aware. That's what I'm referring to when I mentioned Technical's first half of the video, where he shows the flirtatious behavior Nairo did. I also mentioned how Nairo was confused about if he was actually raped when it happened because of the flirting that was done before, and how that may have made him believe that it was his fault. Which is why I say Technicals may have invalidated half the video when he said he didn't believe or understand why Nairo may have been confused about the fact he was raped.

[@jesperkha3425]

This is exactly what happens when more and more people start idolizing online figureheads. It comes to a point where you are defending someone/something you know nothing about, and because so many people agree with you, it becomes infinitely harder to convince you that you are wrong. Thanks for the informative videos

[@GuardianAngelEatos]

Not just online figureheads. Any kind of celebrity or person that you don't know, but especially popular people. But yes It's dangerous and not smart to blindly believe and defend someone that you don't know personally.

[@brunoayala5925]

i like to return to this video from time to time, just to taste the different taste of wine aging is getting for every update occurs, isnt that right Alpharad?

[@fullm3tal90]

Just the fact that people still think captain zack did nothing wrong

[@jdcloudff7]

Honestly, I've had the same sentiment from the start. Nairo's an adult. Despite everything that happened, he should of stopped it then and there.

[@CaptainFracture]

Saying someone isn’t allowed to be molested because they’re an adult is asinine. By your logic somehow being an “adult” means you can’t be the victim of molestation because you “should’ve had bigger balls to stop them”. It’s ridiculous

[@jdcloudff7]

@@CaptainFracture Damn, I don't know how you got to that conclusion. I never mentioned in my comment that "someone isn't allowed to be molested". But if it fits your narrative, whatever. 1. With the information provided, they were flirting before Nairo was molested. 2. Even after the molestation he tried to hide it, which was pretty clear with Samsora. Now, as an "adult" he shouldn't of had a flirtatious relationship with a minor. That's plain and simple. Even after what happened to Nairo, as unfortunate as it was, he still continued with it.

[@Plumbly]

Captain Zack: "if you don't let me give you head I'm gonna ruin your life!!!" Nairo using a Bruce family guy voice: "oh noooo"

[@Toasty2478]

PLUMPY !

[@Plumbly]

@@Toasty2478 TOASTY MY NIGGA

[@bronyel3212]

actually it could be possible. After freezing during the 1st intercourse (if it was actually a rape) Zack could easily blackmail Nairo that "if he doesn't go his way he would make public that they had oral sex", which would ruin Nairo's life.

[@Plumbly]

@@bronyel3212 so youre telling me time was frozen when zack raping nairo, what the heck this changes everything

[@lmao2302]

@@bronyel3212 Would it though? Nairo got cancelled in the first place because many of his friends testified for Zack because it seemed like they were dating. Zack would have no evidence to stand on if he decided to have the same exact twitlonger but significantly earlier in a timeline where Nairo took the risk of getting blackmailed, and Nairo's defense that he uses now would be more valid.

[@partysqu1d]

Damn, bro. I miss the good old days when the most scandalous behavior in the smash community was either Salty Suite or an aerial crab.

[@zadenexcalibur7694]

That crab's Nair has a ridiculously disjointed hitbox and should've never hit Juan.

[@alecrutz6979]

@@zadenexcalibur7694 actually the disjointed hitbox is how it was able to hit him. from what I saw though, it looks like it hit him directly, so holy fuck

[@hyprolink1029]

@@alecrutz6979 He had to get back onstage somehow.

[@zelz3011]

@@hyprolink1029 PFFFT!

[@zelz3011]

@@alecrutz6979 FFFF---- all I shouldn't be laughing at this.

[@Carlisho]

To this day I still wonder where are the parents of all these kids going to tournaments

[@faded9581]

Most helicopter parents aren’t letting their kids anywhere near a Smash community, which is infamous for its lack of security infrastructure. You could be a murderer, and no one would know, no one questions who is who until after we get to know them. The kids who do go likely have very hands off parents.

[@mortezz1268]

Bro why are they all "popular commentators" and Mex Ketchum is just "commentator"😭

[@fullduck97]

Technicals really about to change the pgr list without going to any tournaments

[@Tyler_Gill_Music]

Most toxic video game community I’ve ever witnessed. It’s really a shame and I don’t understand why it’s so bad. Great video dude

[@557deadpool]

It's been this bad for decades

[@KMacDawg21]

"I will burn this entire community to the fucking ground" Tech is giving off some Loki vibes lol

[@dey2x313]

So let's see... Zero who had a creepy chat interaction/being a creep vs Nairo who actually had sexual intercourse.... Look I like both of these guys but I always thought that Nairo's case was/is WAY heavier than Zero's. Doesn't mean Zero's case isn't bad too but you can see who did the greater Evil right? Plus I thought we all knew that both are never able to go to Events anymore, right? I thought the unbann Nairo thing was to get his Twitch account back and nothing else...

[@VenatorXVenator]

Don’t forget just how long ago the incident was with zero too

[@DillonFshing]

Zero definitely got the worse end dude zeros crime was severely less worse. At the same time though there is a ton of evidence supporting Nairos story also. Many pros either supported him or didn’t say anything from the start to not ruin their own career in fear of cancel culture. There is pro Nairo evidence which is being displayed because the case is now being compared to zeros and people are mad zero is on the same level of allegation nairo is but no one is supporting him

[@johnnynguyen2621]

The thing is the incident was completely by Zack starting and blackmailing Nairo so comparing them isn’t really fair. Also if you believe Nairo really had sexual intercourse, he’s confirmed to be straight so it makes 0 sense. #UnBanNairo

[@trevorhannan6428]

@@johnnynguyen2621 CONFIRMED straight huh? Tell me how tf somebody get confirmed that? Shit dude i could tell you i am straight and pretend not to like bois but who knows maybe i do lmao. What a trash can of an argument. Although assuming i am the idiot i would love for you to attempt and set me straight cause aint nothing proving this guy did nothing to a child.

[@illmatics2456]

@@trevorhannan6428 He's a lil ass kid bro that doesn't understand grown man actions. His argument is complete trash.

[@anacc9261]

Nairo took smash bros a Lil too serious.

[@nydalnotlive]

Every time I get an ozempic ad on this channel it just feels right

[@LuigiLonLon]

My main take is and ALWAYS has been that the reason WHY this agreement that prevents everyone who saw the document to talk was made it was because it would not only drag down both Zack and Nairo, but it would also affect an unprecedent amount of thrid parties While Zack is a reprehensible manipulater, Nairo is also an idiot for followinf Zack's game, when it was more than obvious that this was not okay

[@jarl_jake2329]

Dang man, strong statement at the end there. I definitely agree with the sentiment of banning Nairo, but we need to be careful when throwing everyone under the bus with him who helped get his tag to trend. Just saying it very easy to be manipulated into believing someone’s side in a story. That doesn’t mean they were actually involved in the incident whatsoever or had any knowledge of the truth. Not saying some aren’t abusing their platform to knowingly help cover up Nairo, we just need to really investigate before we witch hunt everyone. Personally I don’t give a fuck who’s guilty, so long as they actually are. But I will end with in general I think you’re doing a great with your channel. I’m new to your content, the first video I watched was about Zero. You were very fair with him, just make sure you keep that level headedness about everyone.

[@darkspeler2677]

From my understanding from his multiple vids, is that he is mostly fed up that they are discredeting him, the one with actual proper proof instead of just words or the "trust me" attitude. Instead of actually listening and at least understanding that demanding a unban is the ethical thing to do.

[@fukunaga-kane]

You’ll need actual lawyers and judge for this, you don’t simply believe biased KZbinrs showing screenshots of conversations as “proof”. Both sides are overly biased with their own argument (obviously) and there’s no telling which side is telling the truth

[@bringinthedope5929]

@@fukunaga-kane who do you prefer? new here.

[@duke_8747]

I mean I don’t think he is being biased. He looked at all the evidence that was laid before him and made a decision, at the end of the day it’s a KZbin video with an opinion and there is nothing wrong with that. However, based on the evidence it does seem like Nairo is at fault. Popular smash players Posting tweets staking their reputation on Nairo’s behalf unfortunately doesn’t mean anything.

[@fukunaga-kane]

@@duke_8747 My point is people are going to listen to these kind with bias. For example , meat eaters are going to side with What I've Learned (pro meat) about the why meat isnt bad, and vegans are going to side with Earthling Ed (vegan) in an argument about why the other guys is wrong. There is no judge in this and people are likely to believe with who someone that validates their own biases. Technicals fans are going to be on his side right away and people who happen to stumble upon this video with no idea who technicals is such as myself going to take everything with a grain of salt. And after searches about technicals reputation many suggest that technicals thrives with drama (like the rest of his content) so theres double amount of salt to be taken. Be it detective youtubers or famous youtubers like Critikal or anybody , KZbinr words dont hold any weight.

[@wesleyem3]

I love how you present your arguments. Because yes, at the end of the day, Nairo is far from innocent. But the bigger issue at large is this community's mishandling of allegations. It's so crystal clear I can't imagine why people just purposefully turn a blind eye to these double-standards.

[@spracketskooch]

They're what's called "animus possessed". They are possessed by an ideology, and their standing within that ideology is all that matters. Truth, fairness, accountability, all are secondary to the ideology. Read up on what happened in Nazi Germany and Communist Russia, it's the exact same thing, the oppressor vs the oppressed. The only difference is that instead of being a class thing, rich vs poor, it now focuses on group identity; race, sex, sexual orientation, etc. The most frustrating part is that the whole thing is clearly a divide and conquer tactic committed by the "elites". They get us to be at each other's throats over arbitrary characteristics that don't matter in any important way, all so they can rob us blind and take more and more control. They think they're doing good, but in reality they're contributing to destruction of all we know, love, and hold sacred.

[@Starlight_Luve]

All imma say is that when you said “I will burn this community to the ground,” I GENUINELY smiled!

[@randomdude9367]

Tech really deserves more than what the smash community is giving him. God I'm glad I didn't get sucked into smash.

[@sicko5821]

Same lmfao Smash community really makes not to enjoy the game anymore

[@Left-sh1db]

As a rape victim, freezing up is real and a genuine response to something like that. Its like a deer in headlights, or thinking the train is moving away before it hits you

[@LanceSKLTR]

Yeah that COULD have happened, but everything else makes no sense so even this is questionable.

[@sonicsucks2961]

Lmao.

[@sptflcrw8583]

Yeah, that’s why he gave that one a pass. But it happened again.

[@Left-sh1db]

@@sptflcrw8583 this post was more of a reassurance for those morons who still dont belive this is real

[@vvelux7018]

@@Left-sh1db it doesn’t matter if it’s real or not in the overarching context of the situation.

[@MultiPerson555]

@Technicals - I think there are two nuances you're missing. And I think it's possible that what you're saying and what Nairo is saying are simultaneously true. Disclaimer: I think he should stay banned, and I think your general thesis is correct. He was definitely accepting and returning advances from a minor, and that alone should ban him from that space to keep it safe and on principle. 1. If you're struggling with you're sexuality, it's VERY common to have the "but we're just bros" mindset. "Oh, we're not -really- flirting, we're just weird like that." Nairo, as far I've heard, is still straight. It'll probably stay that way for a long while because of the consequences of his actions. It's possible that he could have been flirting with a male minor, been enjoying it, while -also- convincing himself that it was not flirting and it was therefore okay. Note: THIS DOES NOT EXCUSE THE BEHAVIOR. I'm just addressing your incredulity for HOW someone could possibly get into that situation and also feel used. We see people abuse this denial all the time and hurt people when they're repressing the sexuality and the truth of their actions. 2. When you're raped, you really do freeze up. You really do. It's possible that Nairo was flirting with Zach so Zach had a, "You want it, don't lie to me," attitude but ALSO Nairo was confused by so many things in the moment and ultimately was in fact raped. When I was raped so many questions when through my mind: Do I want this? Should I want this? Did I ask for this? The answers were all no's for me, but it's not so easy to figure that out in a few minutes. When you're with someone you trust and who you love. I trusted my ex, and it only clicked 6 months later that I was used - that I ultimately didn't want that to happen. It sounds like he was also pressured into sex before he was ready (again, -he- never should have been entertaining the idea because he was dating a minor, but even within the relationship he probably wasn't ready. I think it's totally possible Zach was pushing Nairo because of the mixed signals Zach was probably getting - which is still rape, because full consent is enthusiastic and without pressure, but definitely both at fault.) I think both nuances fill out the picture and with your points actually explain why Nairo feels the way he does while also explaining how he got into the situation and why he's at fault. Anyways, have a nice day. Nice suspenders.

[@MultiPerson555]

Replace the strikethrough words with bold lol

[@damarihanson3876]

@@MultiPerson555 ^^ also, how did you get strikethrough on KZbin comments? I’m pretty sure my method doesn’t work anymore. ~Lemme check~ Edit: it didn’t work. Help me please

[@MultiPerson555]

@@damarihanson3876 Dashes instead of squiggles ;)

[@damarihanson3876]

@@MultiPerson555 ahhh I see -what kinda dashes though?- -just checking all of them, don’t mind me- -I hope your day has been good- Sickkkk I’ve got it. Thanks man

[@rumblebird9888]

What about his glasses do you not care?

[@GD9195]

No wonder you can afford to get a 15.000 dollar Tails necklace when you keep living rentfree inside the Smash Community's collective head

[@PPMasster69]

I’m glad that you put out what’s actually happening, and make people aware of things. I’ve learned so much watching your vids. Thanks for being you man.

[@frostea7043]

Nairo should be banned still after all that's happened. Captain Zack needs to be punished tho instead of getting away with shit cuz he's a kid. Kid or not he's a disgusting human being.

[@TheAsianGmer]

12:24 This statement has aged quite nicely.

[@torchthe62nd63]

Of all the fucking times for KZbin to remove the dislike button. Of all the fucking times.

[@LouieG2112]

You mad your favorite smash player is a pedo? Take the goggles off.

[@Galaxia53]

19K likes and 3K dislikes is what I see. One of the highest dislike ratios on his channel from what I can tell

[@parias_sky9845]

I really don’t see how people dislike you man like you got straight to the point and everything you’re saying makes complete sense. As a Nairo fan I am gutted and guess let the fan in me blind the clear evidence in front of me. So thank you for this video

[@davidk4082]

His humor is a little much for me sometimes but I agree with you. Good work should respected and never overlooked.

[@guayasplm4496]

So, for me the thing is. I don't think this should be an example about what to do, but instead a call for making things actually work in some kind of sense. We know that the guys controlling this game are a bunch of guys that know nothing about how to create a safe enviroment. If they are banning Zero they should ban Nairo and if they unban Nairo then the zero ban does not have any sense... They should follow their own rules and not treat people different for who they are in the community. Be profesional.

[@vDeadbolt]

People don't like him because he questions the status quo and challenges it

[@Retrodice114268]

I hate to say this, being one my self but the smash community as a whole are just a bunch of sheep, you acuse someone big of doing something like this, your gonna be burned to a stake. I use to be like that, but then I grew up

[@Psych0boost]

I think it's his crude and edgy presentation

[@Blackatchaproduction]

I don't think zero is trying to go back to competitive smash. Especially when the smash community is heaving garbage

[@wakapout630]

Yep he wasn't trying to come back when he was at the top and loved by a lot of people. Now that he is contreversial it's impossible. I would love to see him return to events but right now it's impossible plus I don't think he wants to come back to the community of people that validates the persons that tried to destroy his life

[@patoa3481]

Who would go back to smash events full of people that will look at you in disgust who'd rather have you dead. Not me thats for sure

[@elricmeme]

video's got me scratching my head real hard i understand some points, but then random stuff is thrown in like 1- Zero: "I saw them doing normal stuff you do at tournaments" 2- pretending like twitch is reasonable at all with their ban system 3- "nairo went to tournament organizers and even THEY couldn't say he was innocent on all charges" *immediately shows screenshots of said tournaments unbanning nairo after reading his appeal* 4- pretending like a sexual assault victim staying silent is at all out of the ordinary 5- pretending like you can't be fed up with being blackmailed even if you think the origin of said blackmail is your fault 6- "i will burn this community to the ground"... *turns off light epicly* 6.5- "here's a trend for you... ban nairo." yea he already is 7- calling other pro players with no close connection to nairo who defended him "unethical" and comparing them to a child sex trafficking ring without knowing their motives or knowledge of the situation, including the one praised earlier in the video for not being a pedo (???) 8- pretending like you can't prepare a legal defense without first thinking the legal situation was partially your fault 9- pretending like being 20 automatically overwrites fight or flight responses gotta say, this video's script reads more like a twitter rant than a thought-out hit piece. kinda leaning on being punchy and having "gotcha" moments more than actual substance or forethought. I know that's because technicals thinks it'll be easier to get a response from the pros that way, or even possibly just knows that being dramatic gets views (not hating on the grind), but not being super invested in the plotline makes it grating and edgy. I saw some of the screencaps of the nairo flirting with zack and was like "oh maybe this vid actually has some good backing", however the counterpoint from nairo's brother was solid (still should 100% avoid those jokes with minors), and the rest of the points in the video (besides the lap laying, still suspicious) were circumstantial.

[@JacobPDeIiNoNi]

I agree, if he wasn’t trying to be so edgy and ‘cool’ with a lot of this stuff his points that are actually good would shine through more

[@hotnready1542]

12:23 bro thinks he's an anime super villain 😂

[@javi994]

Didn’t he help get SWT taken down for security reasons? 😂

[@hotnready1542]

@@javi994 Nintendo said it was because they needed a license to run the event and they violated health & safety guidelines. But we all know that's a load of BS, and yeah, pretty sure the dude was behind it, lmao.

[@javi994]

@@hotnready1542keep in mind that Double Down had no security when Tech invaded Grand Finals

[@javi994]

Smaller budget tourneys did a much better job than SWT circuit events when it came to security

[@javi994]

So I guess the health and safety thing wasn’t Nintendo propaganda Panda would’ve made the community some crazy amount of money and grew their audience Instead, the Smash community shot themselves in the foot once again Nintendo and Panda didn’t screw Smash Smash screwed Smash 😂

[@bronyel3212]

I agree that Nairo should have drawn the boundaries between him and Zack. Now as for the allegedly rape and blackmail from Zack, I think it is plausible that actually happened. Nairo probably knew that if Zack made public that they had oral sex even without his consent, his carrier would be over. Also don't forget that a rape can really screw up one's mental, and as the adult, he probably thought he should have been able to stop it, therefore it is possible he thought it was his fault, as he let that happened instead. The therapist probably told him it is common to froze in this situation and he shouldn't blame himself for that.

[@iLuvMapIeStory]

He had a teen in his hotel room alone at night while he was knwon to he flirting with said teen. Already should be banned despite whatever happened that night

[@umbranzettaivdb391]

your scenario is not possible there is screenshot of nairo paying zack and asking him to shut up

[@bronyel3212]

@@iLuvMapIeStory yup, I said that Nairo should have drawn boundaries, he is at fault for that and deserve the ban. I'm just trying to explain that the rape+blackmail case might be more serious that tech think it is, and he might be victim shaming if it's the case, which is not cool.

[@bronyel3212]

@@umbranzettaivdb391 I thought the hush money was later denied by Nairo who added context to it and said it wasn't to silence Zack but that it was Zack who asked for money ? And even if it wasn't the case he could think that giving Zack money will make him stop blackmailing him. I'm not here to defend Nairo he deserve the ban, I'm just trying to raise awareness about rape blackmail and their repercussion.

[@coladapo3]

@@iLuvMapIeStory his friends demanded he let Zack sleep in his room

[@anacc9261]

Wow all those people defending nairo makes me sick. Makes you wonder, if they partake in these kind of things.

[@dejanae5523]

I have to admit. I've watched and supported Nairo until I found out about this news last year. Unfortunately, it has definitely slipped my mind as if nothing happened and continued to watch his content. (Not that I denied the allegations. It didn't implant to my head how horrific this is). Now, looking deep into this again, I've questioned myself, "How did a 15 y/o come to an event without any parent/guardian besides Nairo???" I feel so ashamed that I brushed this off as serious this case is. I won't be supporting his content anymore.

[@popahtrj]

i love the fact ZeRo just comes clean while nairo wont even clear up obvious rumors and the community welcomes nairo back without a problem. not that ZeRo deserves it but literally what nairo did is way worse

[@its_truema_6754]

It not our problem anymore that between him

[@chrisjackson6149]

Because ZeRo is an actual groomer, whereas Nairo was practically a victim.

[@popahtrj]

@@chrisjackson6149 na…he flirted widd dat lil boy stfu💀

[@orangegba5816]

@@chrisjackson6149 "Nairo" and "Victim" in the same sentance lmao

[@chrisjackson6149]

@@orangegba5816 We get it, you stan ZeRo.

[@Guwi]

Roll it up light it up smoke it up inhale exhale just got an ounce in the mail! Keep it going! Keep blazing bro!! Fellow blazer here!

[@larryflaco8320]

holy shit this video aged well

[@PhtevenPineapple]

“Top 3 player tweek” I love how you phrased it that way. Tweek stans have been coping so annoyingly

[@Alleis]

Tweek OP.

[@xeli3046]

I think a lot of us are coping that our favourites have just let this happen...

[@TheShogu]

HugS donated 1250 to Jisu's gofundme, publicly. Extreme simp manlet behavior.

[@ParrotMan01276]

The whole "freezing up" thing, I understand to an extent, but he should have stopped it after that. As far as the flirtation beforehand...that could be construed as leading someone on. You gotta set boundaries, especially since you are the adult in that situation. Of course, boundaries and other concepts might be much for Smash players nowadays. Point is, I don't think Nairo is a pedophile/ephebophile. He's not a predator either. He's an immature moron that got his friends to cover him after the fact.

[@bashura_0019]

Nairo was not definitively aware of his actions and that he took the bait from zack.

[@elliotgarcia6244]

I don’t think it’s fair to tell someone what they should be doing during a sexual situation. It can get very confusing to comprehend what is happening in the moment, and people on the outside will always say “i would’ve done this/this is what you should’ve done” but it gets very sticky in the midst of it all.

[@taskmagician4289]

Technically everyone is an ephebophile since that’s including 18-19 lol

[@elliotgarcia6244]

@horriblepancake I’m not sure if you’ve ever been sexually assaulted but no things aren’t as clear sometimes. Sorry to surprise you

[@elliotgarcia6244]

@Shin Shaman i feel you. Everyone’s response is different.

[@devildeer292]

If all those tournament organizers ban him again after this, as if they couldn’t be bothered to find out any of this themselves, I’m laughing my ass off to New Years.

[@HeroponMan]

I didn't even know the second instance with the "blackmail" existed until you brought it up. It's horrifying that this impromptu cover-up story of his has worked till now. Nairo should be banned

[@ivrydice0954]

Relatable.