Hands-on: Patek Philippe Nautilus 5712 - Unsporty Sports Watch

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Hi Guys,
A watch collector who watches the channel allowed me to explore his amazing watch collection. One piece that really stood out was his Patek Philippe Nautilus ref. 5712. The Nautilus is a grail watch of mine, this thing is amazing! And craps all over Rolex, but then it is 5-6 times the price!
Let me know what you think.
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[@michaelbrady9364]

I like the scrapes and dings on it. Wear it don’t keep it in the box.

[@nicholasevennett8231]

That strap is so long, does your friend wear it on his leg?

[@ajdhill]

On my last trip to London on the train, a guy got on at Stockport and sat across the aisle from me. I noticed his Nautilus and said he had a nice watch. He took it off and handed it to me to check out, it turned out to be a forty year anniversary 5976/1G in platinum with diamonds as hour markers. It put my Daytona 116520 to shame. Patek owners seem to be very nice, approachable people.

[@ajdhill]

Sorry, it wasn't platinum but white gold. It felt as heavy as Platinum.

[@bigc208]

The reason they can be approachable is that only another watch enthusiast would recognize his watch. A sport Rolex is much more recognizable and easier to fence by criminals so the Rolex owner has to be a bit more careful.

[@ritinsharma5330]

I’m the guy sitting next to you guys watching you both in amazement and envy! 😕

[@jassechan]

If someone notices my watch and compliments me, I almost always ask if they would like to check it out! I'm glad to hear that others are like that too.

[@eahmhelmoa]

This was the watch that got me into this expensive hobby. It is really cool looking watch and absolutely beautiful in metal, people who criticize the dial layout need to see it in person before judging. The movement is absolutely amazing and that micro rotor is so charming. The only flaw is the clasp and the bezel being scratch magnet. Thanks for the video

[@kentvonseverin1257]

I had one (gift) and dumped it, its a watch for people of poor taste.

[@blaket2047]

This is my favorite nautilis. Mostly for the lack of symmetry. It's quirky and different, but it's not boring, and that's why I love it. Now granted this might be one that I admire from afar and if I ever get a hold of it in the metal, it may change my mind. But for now.... Ill keep dreaming, and love it.

[@j.j.h.atemycereal]

Great video. It’s just ugly. And it’s $40,000 of ugly.

[@SGM805]

J.J. H I had a tv that looked the same as that watch 50 years ago lol

[@hln2235]

5712 looks so f*cking good. Congrats.

[@vaughanatkinson8421]

It's a Patek...hell yes we would all buy it, at the retail price....but at the pre-owned price??

[@sumofall3991]

Great video Adrian. Thanks for not being an obnoxious Australian😉

[@BarkandJack]

Haha. Thanks for watching buddy. 🍻

[@martinnewton1984]

Thanks for the review....I have owned a 5712 for just over 5 years. Awesome piece and I wholeheartedly agree with your comments other than those on the clasp. Delicate....yes, weak....hell no!! Of all my watch collection...APs FPJs, Rolex, Blancpain and VC, the finish on my nautilus has stood up better to scratches than all the rest (bar the bathyscaphe ceramic). Nice to see the 5712 getting some love.

[@devinamari9786]

I realize it's kinda randomly asking but do anybody know of a good website to stream new movies online ?

[@eddierylan2647]

@Devin Amari ehh I watch on Flixportal. just google for it :P -eddie

[@devinamari9786]

@Eddie Rylan Thank you, I signed up and it seems like a nice service :) I appreciate it!

[@eddierylan2647]

@Devin Amari Glad I could help :D

[@LondonLex]

Great video...this watch is a real grower...the asymmetrical-ness of it is a strange grower too!!! I really enjoy taking time out to share in your enthusiasm too...oh and great macro work sir! 🤓

[@derekshearer9049]

Rich people buy it because other rich people own it. It's like really bad art that because someone of notoriety bought some everyone else just must join in. This is an ugly watch. Put those beautiful movements in equally beautiful watches. Cheers

[@Hortidave]

That’s uglier than my first girlfriend

[@ID-Guy]

But is it better than a Bremont? ;)

[@BarkandJack]

Well buying this won’t get into the Bremont club 😉

[@ID-Guy]

@@BarkandJack You are never actually a part of the Bremont Club, you merely hold onto the invitation for the next generation

[@damachine3]

@@BarkandJack Just like buying a Bremont won't get you into the Patek Philippe club. ;)

[@BobbyDazzler888]

Dude your knowledge on watch mechanics is simply superficial. Dont go preaching sheet you know very little about. Quit with the paid subscribers too if you want to be genuine.

[@BarkandJack]

Hi Greg, I know what I know and I do state that my knowledge is very limited. I’m learning and exploring. I’m not sure what you mean by “paid subscribers”.

[@dlhussain81]

Patek never used COSC.... do more homework buddy. Only lesser brands need COSC.

[@tim462]

Great content! I‘m relatively new to watches (24yrs old), but in future I‘d like to buy an Tudor BB58...love that watch! Greetings from Germany 🤙🏼😄

[@asiandatu]

Ka Neu would love to own one.. such a flawless watch!

[@steelstunners1862]

BB58' is beautiful, the finishing is almost on par with a Rolex and versatile enough to wear with almost anything!

[@tim462]

Yeah I think so, too...goes also well with a suit or more casual 👍🏼

[@Tal-wb9jn]

The BB58 would be a great choice!!

[@dpw1989]

Tudor is a solid watch.

[@jdstarek]

Fantastic piece. My fav Nautilus.

[@sypen1]

5712 is way better the the 5711. That power reserved is one of the most useful complications and more automatic watches need to add this

[@Vingtenier]

You need more snobbery!

[@davidb5720]

Wow, what a contrast from the last vid! Loving it and why this channel is the best. What a watch and who wouldn’t want one if money was no object 😍

[@BarkandJack]

Thanks a lot David. Glad you liked the video. 👍🏻

[@davidb5720]

Bark and Jack, you definitely made the correct decision to do this full time! You show the rest of you tube how it should be done

[@amcluesent]

I got a lovely 5711 off DHGate

[@CaptCanuck4444]

Unpopular opinion but I find most PP dials ugly compared to other top watch makers like Lange and JLC.

[@BarkandJack]

That pretty much sums up my view point too. I’d take Lange or JLC over any patek.

[@damachine3]

I absolutely love the 5712 and my dealer said that it's highly likely that mine will arrive sometime this summer. Can't wait!

[@dlhussain81]

It’s not a sports watch it’s a luxury sports watch, a segment created by the Royal Oak. You cannot compare it to tool watches from rolex aka the sports watch.

[@GrantMLang]

My grandfathers two watch collection consists of the 5712 and the 5712r. Absolutely insane watches.

[@BossHugo84]

To me the 5726 is way better hands down .

[@Oathar]

more of this, less shitters please

[@therealkiasu]

This is a really awesome watch. I like the 5712 more than the 5711. The Nautilus design was unpopular and deemed ugly back then and now it is selling for double the retail. Crazy..

[@philj212]

apart from logos etc you cant point to a single detail on a submariner that does not serve a purpose. this is just design for the sake of design. the sub wins

[@suitedandbooted363]

Amazing Watch. That is all....... Oh and as always great video 👌

[@roelstolk3915]

Great vid, you're really advancing in your videography! Thanks for the effort!

[@Watchatete]

Is this London Watch Collector? And what a move from Christopher Ward! From watches of 0 value to masterpieces. You are overreacting to criticism of your videos. Better reviw watches like the Tudor FastRider.

[@terryfranks7521]

Very cool my all time favourite

[@MohammadAWaly]

I love it! Amazing piece, the nautilus is also a grail of mine, but I’m shooting for the annual calendar

[@TheBadGuy1974]

Take Patek off the dial and if someone put this up on Kickstarter it would be laughed off the site. It's a SHITTER plain and simple.

[@eco8gator]

When your a Rich Phucker this is as sporty as you need. The 5712 is a fantastic sports watch!

[@edjack1993]

“Rolls Royce Wraith of the watch world” 😆 Nice one.

[@BarkandJack]

A little lead into the next video. 😉

[@WristDistractions]

Don't like how it's not symmetrical... I guess some might like it.. some not... but for me.. not really... I always like symmetrical watches like the no date sub. I like the pp5711 though..

[@d.wilkins3976]

Patek 5711 is also my grail watch. I have debated with myself if the price point is truly justified. Ultimately, I reached the conclusion if I can afford a $30k+ watch then I deserve to treat myself to the finer things lol. Also, I really like how this hands-on session was filmed with the lighting and blacked out background to focus only on the watch.

[@brucetheshark266]

Beautiful watch.... the 5712 is one of my favorites!

[@lucioledizerot196]

Does it belong to the London Watch Collector?

[@BarkandJack]

No it doesn’t. But he does have some great watches.

[@lucioledizerot196]

@@BarkandJack He has this exact one, and I could swear I recognized his hand in one shot!

[@dlhussain81]

Luciole Dizerot is he the only one in London with a 5712?

[@wincrasher2007]

the dial is asymmetrically horrendous. nothing beats the simplicity of the 5711.

[@mikebarnard5339]

Another high quality vid. Thanks for all the effort.

[@BarkandJack]

Mike B thanks for watching Mike. 👍🏻

[@thelifeofjools8384]

Looks like a Joe 90... 1970's watch...... good for wearing whilst one prepares that fondue in a set that one bought from a charity shop :) Bit harsh...but dude...the design feels very dated to me, not timeless....

[@cbsection8]

Best watch channel on KZbin.

[@dhuwdhuwdhuw]

I think Pras explained it pretty well in talking watches about Nautilus. They don't care if you are Jesus Christ, you gotta fill up the application and wait.

[@napilut]

I know this video is a bit old but I’m just enjoying going through your videos as I just entered into the watch world a few months ago and discovered your channel. You mentioned that the PP stamp/seal shouldn’t be there as it isn’t necessary. Patek logo is already there and Patek wouldn’t sell a watch with a movement that doesn’t comply with their standards. However, is it not the same as the superlative label on all Rolex dials? I think they’re doing it (as Rolex is too) to differentiate the old movements from Patek/Rolex that didn’t comply with Patek/Rolex current standards. I’m just starting to get into watches but it feels it could be a good reason for the PP stamp/seal. BTW: love your channel and how you communicate your passion and information about watches. Thank you. Sorry for my English, I’m still learning.

[@mccstuff]

I agree with you the blue dial (5711?) is gorgeous and would be the first watch I'd buy if I won the lottery.

[@terrybrigden7605]

I'll stick with Rolex .. but quality video as always ...

[@chi-towncalifornia5916]

Terry Brigden Rolex durability!

[@lurox5183]

According to him this watch "craps on Rolex"

[@lurox5183]

@Will Harris my point was that it is such a stupid comment to make for someone who makes a living off these videos. It is just a blanket statement and doesn't say why he feels that way. It also doesn't say which Rolex.

[@dlhussain81]

Terry Brigden do you really have a choice? Hahaha

[@dlhussain81]

Luke M just to clarify, it cr@ps on every single rolex bar none....

[@johndoe-ln4oi]

I am so thankful that Patek doesn't appeal to me. The Nautilus aesthetics wouldn't interest me at $1,000, but at $20k-$40k, a water-themed "sports" watch with only 60m WR is ridiculous. Add in an embarrassingly pathetic 2 year warranty, the same as low end watches, and I find nothing to recommend Pathetic Philippe.

[@collectableinvestor]

1. That watch goes for about $70,000 on the market. 2. You can't get on a waiting list for it in America, unless you already have an existing relationship with the authorized retailer. Don't believe me? Try calling a retailer.

[@BarkandJack]

Yeah the preonwed market is crazy for Patek sports watches.

[@RichBuddy]

I have an existing relationship with a patek dealer and I went there a few months ago to put a deposit on a 5711 and they said Patek is no longer taking orders. they're backed up 5 years plus. no waitlists. also fyi patek waitlists involve leaving a deposit, but yeah no go on this one... same with aquanaut which I already secured with them. no more deposits accepted.

[@damachine3]

@@RichBuddy Luckily, I'm in extremely tight with my dealer and they expect to deliver my 5712 by this summer...and I just asked for it about a month ago. Then again, you wouldn't believe how much money I have spent on Rolex with them and how fast they have delivered the hardest to get watches to me. There's almost always a way for them to direct a watch a certain direction--at the expense of another, if needed--a lot faster than you would think. By the way, they said they could get me an Aquanaut even faster.

[@RichBuddy]

damachine3 wow i paid for my aqua Nov 2017 . still not here yet. awesome congrats! good to know. I even bought direct from a patek boutique.

[@collectableinvestor]

@@damachine3 I agree, I've had a similar experience

[@Sam-be4yy]

I think they tried to put too much on the dial and feels very cramped.

[@benwong1111]

Great detailed review once again. They moved on from Geneve seal because they feel some “lower” quality watches like Cartier was able to attain the seal. And they don’t want to be accompanied by Cartier. Omega Meta is 0/+4 i think, not -2/+2. Regarding the clasp, they don’t have that much choice to be honest. Maybe other option would be push button butterfly clasp but that would be harder to make it this thin and elegance. The ball bearing is very hard to open on my dad’s example too. So it’s not feel like coming off. It’s even annoyingly tight that my dad always complain when he wear it on special occasions. (It’s 5711R though, not sure if the steel clasp are this tight too)

[@throwingdartsandbreakinghearts]

Without snobbery bro? Let's be real. I support you and your channel, but you do have a little snobbery in you.

[@dlhussain81]

Frosafrost sadly snobbery comes with owning luxury watches 😞

[@simonrobert8518]

I’m a Patek fan but I really don’t like the 5712, I hate this dial, also I find it too thin for a watch with that much of complications. That is why I much prefer the 5726 wich is bigger

[@DavidMoore-lz4bh]

Great video Adrian, a Nautilus would be my Grail watch don't think I could justify the cost .

[@brysoga]

I know you can play this game at every price point but for the same price you could have: a fifty fathoms milspec, a yachtmaster, an explorer, an explorer 2, an aqua tera and that jlc master control secor dial. Is that one watch worth the same as all of these really? Or does it become a way of displaying wealth a la richard mille all be it in a less garish fashion?

[@BarkandJack]

I’m totally with you. I’d much prefer that line up than one Nautilus.

[@FatSamEIE]

You can only wear one at a time though and its quite likely someone who owns one of these will have had rolexes and other brands prior to the nautilus.

[@ericpignatore5317]

I know that I am in the majority of the population in that I will never be able to afford a Nautilus of any kind. That being said I am in the minority in saying that there is no amount of money or any situation that would make me buy one. I find the Nautilus line to be horrendously ugly. They look like they are bad props from an episode of Lost in Space. I can appreciate the engineering that goes into the movement but as for the design...that’s a no for me.

[@alphamike7548]

What is fascinating is the Chinese are able to replicate This watch to a 1:1 compared to the genuine one with a high finishing at a price of 1000$…. I let you admire

[@ritinsharma5330]

I wonder what sport one plays wearing such expensive watches!

[@ameeral-shammaa9012]

Adrian, I’ve never seen you drooling over any watch as you did over this one!! And rightfully so…

[@bosullivan5462]

For me the Nautilus never suits having Chronos in the face.... It always looks a bit crowded for some reason

[@DonLee1980]

I have the 5726 1A, where the size and bracelet feels much more sturdy and sporty.

[@francorui2493]

If add to choose from this two whish one would you take and why ? Please Patek 5712 Rolex Daytona green

[@kingflum]

Cool video mate. Just note Master Chronometer tests set by the Swiss Federal Institute of Metrology (METAS) have a criteria of 0/+5 seconds per day... Not -2/+2 as you stated 🤷‍♂️

[@BarkandJack]

Oh no. Sorry about getting wrong.

[@kingflum]

Bark and Jack 😂 no issue. Just thought I'd share fyi ... 👊

[@raymondrichardson6061]

Nice video, and interesting analogies. I would say it was a Riyal Oaks, ugly cousin. It doesn’t work, it has dated. My motoring analogy would be a Morgan Aero Super sport, the boss eyed one, with the “ I married my cousin” sort of demeanour. Good job we aren’t all the same.

[@LondonLex]

Raymond Richardson 😂😂😂

[@gratefulot360]

The movement is extraordinary! Maybe I would have to see the watch in person to appreciate it's design because on-screen it appears visually dissonant. Excellent review!

[@AliasHSW]

Saw one in the wild. It’s gorgeous

[@wolfdna788]

Awesome video I just fell in love a little bit with a watch that is unattainable

[@BarkandJack]

Our website: barkandjack.com B&J NATO straps: barkandjack.shop

[@saevans63]

Beautiful watch. Would love one

[@jarodstevens2710]

Outstanding video Adrian as usual man definitely one of my top three channels and my favorite NATO's

[@gilliebrand]

5711, yes indeed, a classic.

[@Unit_of_g]

Hey, Adrian! Really starting to enjoy your videos and the content on your website! I was wondering if you ever plan on releasing any leather straps on your shop. I recently bought a TAG Heuer Carrera 5 for my birthday and was considering switching to a leather strap. If you ever do release a leather strap I'd almost certainly buy one, I'd love to support the channel. Thanks for the videos!

[@BarkandJack]

Hey Gabriel, thanks a lot I’m glad you like the content. I will have leather straps in a couple of months. 👍🏻

[@pizza.doctor]

Power reserve is balanced by the small seconds, moonphase and date are balanced by the logo text - it is not entirely disorganised

[@BarkandJack]

I hadn’t noticed that. Well spotted.

[@kofiofosu9051]

I would buy a 5711 but they’d never sell one to me and I could not afford one anyway.

[@jeanlefranc3817]

Never been a Genta design fan, irrespective of the brand. But the video is, as usual, the best spent 15 minutes this morning.

[@OilBaron]

yes you’ve misunderstood the micro-rotor vs full size rotor

[@BarkandJack]

Thanks. I’ll do some more research into it.

[@OilBaron]

Bark and Jack in very simple terms force = mass x acceleration. If accel is constant (ie when you flick your wrist you accel the rotor the same be it micro rotor or full size rotor) then force and mass are proportional. So if you design a micro to weigh the same as the full size rotor the winding force generated will be the same

[@allthestroke88]

Great video. I'd love more of these personal reviews of watches we don't see everyday. Hopefully more viewers open up their collections. Why haven't you people subscribed yet?

[@BarkandJack]

Thanks a lot Darryl. Glad you liked it. More videos like this will be coming very soon. 👍🏻

[@torqueofthedevil8145]

My grail but only at RRP, not the stupid grey prices

[@drshahid1007]

Whats up Adrian👋🏻?

[@BarkandJack]

Hey buddy.

[@Gaming.Labs_GL]

How do we "charge" or "recalibrate" the Power Reserve?

[@andychang7137]

Are you sure omega metas accuracy is -2 to +2 ? Not 0 to 5 sec a day....

[@trevormajula8462]

Just say Rado bro. ..great video

[@BarkandJack]

Yeah Rado are doing som crazy watches.

[@AliasHSW]

I would equate the 5712 to a Mclaren more than a Ferrari or countach

[@blaket2047]

Loving the last couple videos. Like where the direction of the channel is going. Keep using the exposure of the channel to show us some awesome watches! Cheers!

[@watchmedicine7747]

I like the symmetry on the dial and feel this is a bit busy ...Wearing a 5711 feels like butter and the dial is cleaner...Also the annual calendar is nice ...Your quality of video is great

[@BarkandJack]

Thanks Watch Doctor. I bet the 5711 feels great.

[@watchmedicine7747]

@@BarkandJack There has to be some chaps in London who would have a 5711 for u to borrow...Orherwise come over to the US of A :)...Anyway the thinness of the watch makes it light on the wrist unlike any Rolex as u probably felt...The clasp leaves something to desire for but when it closes the bracelet looks uniform...I have the white dial which I like because it's more legible

[@verykeen2please]

unlike bell and ross, you get what you pay for

[@scottallan3327]

Love the watch always love Patek but I've got an 8 and a quarter inch wrist looks like a little tiny toy on my wrist

[@Agentxphile]

The 5712 is the best Nautilus of them all.

[@jharris947]

Not a fan. For me the dial is too fussy, too much going on and looks unbalanced. Agree with you, much prefer the looks and balance of the 5711. £30,000???...If you can find one out there they sell for £60,000+ Shocking mark-up over list. Nice video as always.

[@Andrewolf79]

Grate Video as always and I love this watch its one of my 3 dream watch, one day.. one day... lol... a true everyday every occasion any outfit watch I agree the display is some how odd and if I hat to chose it would be the 5726 hands down for display balance, maybe in 10 years time depending where I am.. I'll sell my whole collection for one of these. Only contender to this watch would be a Vacheron 4300V/120G B102 or the A.Lange & Sohne Zeitwer Striking 145.029. I also have to say that like any passionate person I saw evolving in to the watch collection world the true collectors become more interested in the history and workings of time peaces than living off the status that some of these make apparently give you. Snobbery exist anywhere loads of money is involved and can be a good thing, is a learning curve on how to select and evaluate products so you become more judgemental on what gets sold at what price point, as long it's not offensive to who can only afford a timex, a Casio, a Longines, an Omega a Rolex and so forth it maintains a separation between levels of prestige. There will always be someone out there with more money, but everyone can achieve better taste and knowledge and from those we can learn.

[@imranchowdhury4972]

Is it a sports watch? Come on Adrian the comparison with Rolls Royce actually suits. Comparing with Ferrari the 1st issue is the water resistance it is only 60m!!! The dial is really not anesthetic, I should say it is more a a dress watch because if the thinness. To me the 5711 is much better for Nautilus line. You are really going deep with lots of information. But whatever you say the best sports watch to me is either the Submariner/ Sea Dewller/Deep Sea. Why to pay $40,000 neither a sports watch nor a dress watch.

[@SuperLitherland]

I think it looks like something from Argos

[@jurajbrugos6411]

Fantastic watch but agree with you sports watch is a watch I take on a 2h run or all day hike into the mountains, so Polar,Garmin, Suunto not a Patek :)))

[@jasperhoek8304]

Juraj Brugoš but you could......😉

[@SiGoodchild1]

Not an attractive watch in my opinion. To answer the “is it worth it?” question, I think individuals have to ask what else they could get, watch-wise, for that kind of money. Only when you know what you’re turning down can you make that judgement.

[@Tal-wb9jn]

Great watch not particularly robust...take it off before you wash your hands...don’t ever bump it...servicing is very expensive...love GG designed watches...the Ferrari comparison is spot on great car but not something you drive everyday and very finicky...

[@chowychow]

After owning both the 5712 and 5711. Your comments on the dial being disorganised is really true thou. In contrast the 5711 be it white or blue dial the symmetry of the 5711 is perfect.

[@therapiststeve3294]

I know this is Blasphemy, but I'm so not a Patek fan. With the single exception of the 5524G Pilot Travel Time watch, I find them stuffy, frumpy & thoroughly uninspiring.

[@excelerater]

a fool and his money are easily separated