Beating Pokemon Platinum How Nintendo Intended

[@PaPaSea]

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[@adwaitdhoju]

Yeah

[@charyxard5086]

I smash the like button!! Platinum is overall the best. No doubt there's a reason to why so much like these games.

[@brevinbeard900]

Hello papasea, let's see you do this in pokemon conquest

[@TheShadow1347]

do a "as Nintendo intended" video for Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl when they come out

[@bluelobterz]

Chaddd the bunnery

[@potatolegs1305]

Funny watching this a year later and realizing Platinum is, indeed, still the definitive way to experience Sinnoh

[@obviousalias132]

Yeah that intro didnt age well

[@theonlyshinyumbreon]

"Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl; another set of games that are going to improve upon the Sinnoh experience." Yeeeaah... the intro absolutely aged like milk left outside on a summer day.

[@yourbootyholeisyourbeautyhole]

i intended to use this exact guidebook for bdsp to see if i could play it using an outdated guide if i needed a hint instead of using clickbait websites, and... it didn't work out. ):

[@thevenom2731]

I don't know about that. BDSP introduced some cool new things that Platinum didn't have. I'd argue they both are the definitive way to experience Sinnoh, for different reasons.

[@paranixoussouxinarap4090]

Oh yeah it's so good I skipped it

[@pkmntrainerlilly5]

"Steal into the base to save the captured legendary" is just fine as a sentence. In this case, "steal" is a synonym for "sneak". It's an uncommon by valid use of the word.

[@nathancansell4390]

Instantly came to say the same… maybe it’s us that are nitpicking?

[@thunderhammerx2966]

It's a slightly more old-fashioned turn of phrase; perhaps those familiar have older relatives who've said it in the past, or possibly have seen it in older media. (edit: typo)

[@xenagabby9501]

I was going to say the same. It's essentially saying "be stealthy"

[@warwerewolf777]

Actually, that's also why people say, 'Steal a glance' as well

[@everythingpony]

@@warwerewolf777 I thought that meant I steal your eyes

[@sammyog6274]

Man I'm so glad you still say hammer away to keep his legacy alive. That's why you're a goat

[@Silvs1212]

Who’s legacy

[@Val.Kyrie.]

@@Silvs1212 the man, the legend.

[@robertlupa8273]

@@Silvs1212 Eric "ECM" Mylona's, the guy who made the Fire Red guide and has sadly passed away.

[@sammyog6274]

@@robertlupa8273 yeah man. When I hear hammer away it brings a smile to my face. Homie will keep living through us

[@jianchristian1367]

lay waste lay down the law in two shakes of a lamb's tail hammering away dispatch

[@coolguytoughguy17]

21:12 Ah yes, Gabite the Cynthia, my favorite pokemon.

[@bonganindlovu7969]

On today's episode of game theory we are gonna prove that Cynthia is actually a Pokemon

[@ani3168]

@@bonganindlovu7969 pokemon is a species Humans are also a species thus proving cynthia is a big 'ol pokemon

[@nyls1717]

I also noticed that, can’t stop laughing 😂

[@yogurtyearner]

i misread that as Cynthia the Gabite like fifty times and was confused as to why you were being so pedantic. then i realized I'm just dyslexic...

[@Keydicken]

If not for Platinum, I believe Sinnoh wouldn't be as popular as it is

[@lutoooluis]

facts

[@androidoficeandfire9667]

Answer is no it wouldn't be

[@jordanthejq12]

SAVING A LOT OF DATA...

[@rhino269]

I agree. I didn’t bother with Diamond and Pearl back in the day and just got Platinum instead haha

[@blackops9696]

I somewhat agree, but the biggest saving grace that diamond and pearl had (before platinum came out) were the new evolutions to older generation Pokémon.

[@yvngbullet]

It's insane to me that I bought platinum in 2010 and only found out about wayward cave a few months back. This is why I love the older games. There's always hidden things in the games that you have yet to discover

[@joshackroyd500]

Get yourself that Gible from there 👌

[@yvngbullet]

@@joshackroyd500 I will when I play bdsp. I used to have to wait till the end of the game to use garchomp, which sorta defeated the purpose

[@robertlupa8273]

@@yvngbullet That's assuming they won't block the other entrance with a Strength boulder like it was in DP. In Platinum, the secret entrance isn't blocked but the main one is.

[@shifting3306]

@@joshackroyd500 i always thought you could only get gabite in victory road and considering gible is the perfect Pokémon imma defenitly get him in bdsp

[@BaconNuke]

@@robertlupa8273 With all the tiny changes that seem to come from Platinum version that we saw in BDSP trailers.. I kinda assume it may be unblocked.. or Gible will just be able to be found in those underground hideaway things

[@matthewdaley4403]

The Sudowoodo art that is used was the only official concept art that existed at the time. Not sure why Houndour got updated art early, but most Gen 2 pokemon were depicted with their Gen 2 art until much of it was redone for HGSS

[@KizzyJay]

"bdsp will improve upon the sinnoh experience" i almost died

[@Bluerock121]

I laughed out loud. We had so much hope back then

[@antonioscott5791]

@@Bluerock121 we surrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre did 🥲

[@IllusoryCrescent]

why does everyone hate bdsp???

[@xivCatumin]

@@IllusoryCrescent They shipped incomplete and required a patch to add in the music and entire post game. And to this day they are really broken. Awkward lag when entering battles, you can get hardlocked in the ice gym because of auto save, and so many more bugs. Acoustic Harmonia has a good video essay on it. Bugged Diamond and Shipped Early Pearl

[@alexanderhorter1287]

I felt that lmao

[@CaptainKirbyCK]

16:38 You are able to get Spiritomb that early, and it's super useful throughout the game! It just need you to greet people 32 times in the underground!

[@CryoticMienshao]

i think its 50 people

[@00SNIVY00]

@@CryoticMienshao I thought it was 32. Either way it's a lot of interactions and it will take a long time lol

[@HybridAngelZero]

Platinum definitely gets the "Most Improved Third Version" award I actually have this guide, though I got it on clearance long after Black and White were out. I never knew it had so many weird mistakes xD

[@Kairos_Akuma]

Sad that the remakes didn't use it...

[@karatesoccerbaseball]

That Scott Pilgrim getting ready reference was hilarious. Edgar Wright is such a genius. I can't wait for Last Night in Soho! I also can't wait for BDSP and LoA

[@castform7]

15:07 Definitely. A baseline look at their stats, where to get them, how to evolve them and their level up moveset. Really detailed look at a Pokemon.

[@antant9523]

4:42 sudowoodo only receive updated artwork in HGSS. Since this is released before HGSS, it uses the original artwork. Some johto pokemon (like houndour) receive updated artwork in FRLG so they are used here. 16:40 You can catch spiritomb before national dex.

[@jesaea]

didn't Sudowoodo get another artwork in Emerald?

[@antant9523]

@@jesaea nope. the guidebook still uses Gold Silver's artwork. same for the sinnoh games. only in hgss it is updated

[@jessebellepianzin1915]

“Nintendo hates Australians” Me, an Australian: well you’re not wrong

[@angelhunter1901]

also an Australian who has a similar thought of "seems like it"

[@SAWFD1413]

though i feel not just Nintendo but all gaming companies...that or our dollar has a 2X exchange rate(1usa for about 2aus) yet we have the same minimum wage(pay rate). i also feel the same when "coming this winter"(i see it in sept. for a global announcement) is put on an ad for any game, as many people who cover any/all hot topic games make it confusing.

[@danielsolano330]

You think Nintendo hates you? Try being a South American for a while

[@evansyang2091]

@@danielsolano330 *cries in Pacific Islander

[@exploded_hemroids5597]

Tis the hurtful truth 😔

[@YTUBE508]

With how many times Professor Rowan says “boy” you’d think he’s Kratos

[@acehealer4212]

“I of course have an honor battle against her Garchomp and win.” Heck yeah, that’s what we come here for! This was actually my first Pokémon strategy guide! I learned a lot from it, but honestly I can’t say young me put any of that knowledge to practical use. Which is to say, I used an overleved starter Pokémon for most of the game until that no longer become a viable strategy and never beat the Elite Four. 😅 I’d love to replay Platinum but sadly I lost my cartridge years ago. Maybe later down the line I’ll get the chance. It’s nice that Platinum ironed out some of the complaints people had with Diamond & Pearl. You can find more Fire Types like Houndour, Magmar, and Flareon, for example. Ponyta still evolves late, but you can catch one much earlier and they now learn Flame Wheel from leveling up.

[@GabrielLopez-zr7gz]

"Cascoon, which then evolves into Beautifly" Cascoon, who evolves into Dustox: hol up

[@keksidy]

the cascoon is trans

[@RedDragonForce2]

@@keksidy actually Gender plays no part in that evolution line. Well, I mean it does, but it’s not the ONLY part. Trust me, nerds who know the formula for this evolution line will explain in great detail why it’s actually random!

[@specimen057]

@@RedDragonForce2 if there is a formula doesn't that mean that it's actually not random and can be quantified to always get the one you want?

[@RedDragonForce2]

@@specimen057 it involves manipulating the code of the game, which is illegal in competitive, regardless of how often they let people get away with it. Also, Nintendo does frown on hacking. So, if you want to manipulate the code, then go ahead, but if you look at the code itself, there’s multiple factors going into which Wurmple evolve into Silcoon and which evolve into Cascoon.

[@specimen057]

@@RedDragonForce2 once again if there is a formula that can be quantified doesn't that mean that it isn't random?

[@0V3RDR1VE]

Way better than diamond and pearl, thank god they used platinum pokedex in new games....

[@joeyterheide5426]

has it been confirmed that the platinum version of the sinnoh dex is used in BDSP?

[@0V3RDR1VE]

@@joeyterheide5426 Yes, Pokemon from platinum dex are present

[@neiiko5712]

Platinum dex Pokémon are found in the underground

[@Y0G0FU]

Thank god they also didnt use the dmg calculation speed from Diamond and Perl

[@shifting3306]

Now if only they gave us sparkling platinum too considering d/p are fucking boring af compared to platinum

[@ryanchase2092]

“Accidentally kill azelif, then accidentally kill uxie” Mespirit 👁👄👁 ✌🏼

[@dbzmaster1213]

I'm from the future: BDSP did NOT improve the Sinnoh region

[@PhantomDusclops92]

4:58 Well, actually a few Gen 2 Pokémon got updated artworks with the release of FireRed and LeafGreen. More precisely, Pichu, Cleffa, Igglybuff, Togepi, Marill, Murkrow, Espeon, Umbreon, Misdreavus, Unown, Wobbuffet, Heracross, Houndour, Houndoom, Phanpy, Donphan, Kingdra and Elekid got their updated art before the remakes.

[@BlackTempleGaurdian]

I still find it incredible just how much your lexicon's Evolved over the course of this series.

[@twentypandora96]

Pokemon platinum was my first ever pokemon game i ever played, and when I got it I was still in elementary school when it was released, so this is a blast of memories just for me alone since this game itself was my childhood.

[@jetstreamjackie3437]

Man, this brings me back. I still own my copy of this guide, and I’d look through the Battle Frontier and Pokédex sections for hours

[@Shugunou]

I really wish that BDSP had the distortion world. I would've loved to see a 3D version of it and it's still my favorite part of Platinum.

[@Kairos_Akuma]

BDSP should have just used the entirety of Platinum and it's features like the post game. And then put the D/P exclusives for each version and call it a day...

[@mosstits]

BDSP was such a bad idea in the first place. DP were revealed to be rushed games, which is partly why Platinum exists as a "fix" and improvement. So creating a faithful-but-rushed remake of a rushed game was never gonna turn out good.

[@Shugunou]

@@mosstits If they didn't make BDSP, there would be no remakes of generations that came after. I'm sure a lot of people are looking forward to the Black and White remakes and those couldn't exist if they just stopped making remakes. So, even if the remakes were the worst Pokemon games in existence, they were still important.

[@mosstits]

@@Shugunou I only said that DP remakes were a bad idea because Platinum exists. Sinnoh remakes were inevitable, but they should've done Platinum instead. A rushed remake of a good game is better than a rushed remake of a rushed game.

[@Shugunou]

@@mosstits They have never done remakes of the third game in the series before and that would set precedence for future remakes. the reason that is bad is because some generations don't have a third game/sequels. Gen 6 is one of those. They were originally planned to have one but never got one which would essentially make it so that there would never be a gen 6 remake which would mean there would never be a gen 7 or gen 8 remake either.

[@thogameskanaal]

Platinum is stil the definitive way to experience Sinnoh. BDSP was a major letdown... Also, 'write a report' means save the game. Parts of this guide are likely translated from Japanese, where the save option is called 'レポート' (report).

[@tarvivor]

I love this particular strategy guide - just the sheer size of it made for a lot of fun reading while bored. And now with WFH, it makes for a nicely-sized stand to sit my laptop on. BTW can confirm the Australian price, mine's still got that overpriced sticker on it. 😂

[@thoughtsforthebuilders]

Hi, I'm from the Future. Pokemon BDSP released. Platinum is still the hallmark Gen IV experience 😭

[@v1tr1us2]

It still amazes me that Gen 4 originally launched with 2 fire lines prior to beating the elite 4.

[@patg148]

You mean 2 evolution lines of fire pokemon?

[@isiahbraun5836]

Seriously tho game freak wtf???

[@13Jordanator]

I hope Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl don’t do the same

[@rogue1248]

@@13Jordanator they wont obviously

[@ZenoDLC]

And for some reason it's also the gen where they decided to make an Elite 4 a fire trainer...

[@Dru_Stephan]

That description about Rowan's fridge was just...flavor text.

[@liolovestheworld]

Yo that shoe tying clip was flipping awesome easily the coolest part of the whole video

[@yvngbullet]

Cant wait to get a beating brilliant diamond/shining pearl the way Nintendo intended later this year

[@FreakigesSternchen]

“Brilliant diamond and sniping pearl, that will improve on the sinnoh experience”, well that aged poorly…

[@rainstormfr1838]

0:31 Papasea: Pokemon brilliant diamond and shining pearl are going to improve the sinnoh region Literally everyone else watching this after its release: “so that was a ****ing lie”

[@lynz01.]

bdsp clears gen 4

[@OminasCrowe]

“Feet dont fail me now” is a phrase often said (in a comical way) when someone is trying to run away. It sounds weird but its a common phrase.

[@blademasters4346]

Therapist: "Professor Kratos isn't real, he can't hurt you." Professor Kratos: 7:22

[@robertlupa8273]

I, on the other hand, can't help but hear the "BOY [it's a scorcher out there]" in this particular scene.

[@B-Randall]

I like the Scott Pilgrim homage in the beginning! The shoe tying had me rolling lolol xD

[@crimsonfury949]

30:00 Now that's some bold choice of words there sir!

[@Ziel..]

First game I ever completed! Hence why my favourite legendary is Giratina! Can't wait for the remakes

[@wolfinator754]

0:23 “We are so close to the release of Pokemon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl. Another set of games that are going to improve on the Sinnoh experience.” Oh, you poor sweet child.

[@andychua2766]

Dude that strategy guide awakened a forgotten memory jesus I never owned such a thing but I remember flipping through that before

[@timeslider-0135]

When it comes to bringing balance to the KZbin, joy is not something taken into account. But seeing the berry page But this… this brings a smile to my face.

[@gecko2993]

I'd definitely like to see a gen 7 game next, this series is so underrated

[@jrlaps521]

I had this same guidebook as a kid and I read this thing to death playing Platinum. I lost it I have no idea what happened to it and still kinda miss it today

[@hhjan594]

I think "Say no and write a report" just means if you are not prepared for the fight yet you can just say no and save your game. I believe "Save a report" is the term for the Japanese Pokemon games as saving you game (The option on your main menu for saving the game is literally called "report" in Japanese), so basically this is just a mistranslation.

[@KairoWolf]

Maybe, but with all the puns and such, I feel like it's more likely a joke about you being a kid dealing with this situation. Realistically, you should just leave and call the police. Helping them write up a report.. Don't see the point in saving the game, since all you really lose is a bit of money.

[@_EllieLOL_]

@@KairoWolf Poke police being useful challenge (impossible)

[@KairoWolf]

@@_EllieLOL_ You're not wrong, lol

[@Scout819]

@@KairoWolf I honestly interpreted it as writing a report about the ruins lol

[@DragoonHashira]

This guide was actually clutch for me as I hadn't played a game since Crystal and it was a big help for the new Pokémon and informing me on the special and physical splits

[@TheStigHCE09]

Fun fact - AU$39.95 on March 22nd, 2009 (the release date of Pokemon Platinum in the US, since I don't know when this guide would have released) was ~US$27.95. So yeah, Nintendo does in fact hate us.

[@zazbi2359]

Just to clarify for anyone who cares, Pokémon doesn't hate Australia its just that the Australian dollar(AU) also uses $ sign however is valued at .75$ United states dollar (USD) hence it appears to be twice the price. I live in Australia, it super annoying buying anything online cause its usually presented USD but ends up being twice what I thought it would be so I always double check or use a currency converter if it isn't inbuilt in the site. 3:49 in case you want the relevant time stamp

[@idisappointmydad3115]

Glad to see you’re still hammering away at these

[@zephadusjoltspark6951]

5:26 I understood that reference! Brought a little smile to my day. lol

[@grinbrothers]

17:55 - It's no wonder Mothman didn't win against Maylene when you have him use Tackle. Whilst it is a shame that the guide was underwhelming, despite it's nice coverage of move-sets and berries, it was really cool seeing a fairly distinct team. Tangrowth was a unique choice for this fun run of what is my 2nd favourite Pokémon game.

[@saxmasterproductions]

The Platinum Guide was my favorite nintendo guide, read through it a lot as a kid

[@Val.Kyrie.]

“Steal” can mean sneak. “Steal inside” is understood to mean concealment, to gain entrance without being seen. You’re sneaking around. Hammer away in two shakes of a lambs tail.

[@Luke-nc6fj]

"Hammer away" God bless a legend :,(

[@atraxian5881]

Early 2022, Sinnoh remakes released and... Platinum is still the ultimate way to experience the Sinnoh region.

[@foosh366]

Hi from the future here and pokemon platinum is still the definitive way to experience sinnoh Yes even with the slow ass health bars

[@diegodebeer1]

"While it's still the definitive version." It still is over 1 year later xD

[@WailfulSeeker82]

I remember having that bulky book as a kid. I got the ones for Black and White 1 & 2, Heart gold/Soul silver and platinum.

[@Agent719]

23:20 is probably a reference to the "observe and report" philosophy where companies don't want their employees to get hurt stoping people from doing illegal or otherwise dangerous things.

[@CAVEMANsean]

I just watch these to catch up on the "story" because even though I'm 28 and haven't played a pokemon game since original gold and silver the new game is finally what I wanted as a kid

[@delikatessbruhe9843]

6:16 When you said "a Wii video game console" I thought you'd gone Scottish on us for a second

[@knickknack4338]

Love the Scott Pilgrim reference starting at about 5:27 :)

[@SinnohGreen]

I bought this guide for £1 at a car boot, 3 years after buying platinum but it’s actually come in handy. It’s also therapeutic to flip through the Pokédex too.

[@MaxWelton]

He followed my guidebook! He did it!

[@FiveToedSloth]

Haven't met anyone who doesn't have Platinum amongst their favorite Pokémon games!

[@chocokittybo]

Nice to meet you, and apologies for breaking your perfect streak

[@ICE-ek8zj]

@@chocokittybo Same bro

[@FinnishAlien]

I had this guide when I was a kid! I remember reading through it like a bible multiple multiple times! I teared up a little when you pulled it out :D Good times!

[@tiagomatias6667]

0:04 My god people RELY didn't like your opinon on the starters

[@animatingangel7946]

“Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl witch will only improve on the Sinnoh experience.” Ah. Aged like milk.

[@urmadasf]

I also skipped Platinum (and HGSS) and I just finished both in Sept. my fave era of pokemon gaming

[@Lord_Saladin_BDO]

0:33 "Improve" the sinnoh experience xd

[@andymcloughlin3105]

Platinum is definitely still the definitive sinnoh experience. I’ve never finished bdsp

[@Hexmonkey]

I loved the guide, read it cover to cover pretty much daily till the weekend when I could play games.

[@Sarve98]

This is the one guide I actually own nostalgia is crazy

[@swayyt6132]

Ima just say it ur a real king and deserves WAY more subs and likes then you have rn. Your my favorite youtuber thanks for making my life easier with your vids.

[@MrRichieRides]

Wow I just realized you passed 100k subs! Awesome job man! Keep it up I love your Nintended videos they’re always fun 😁also congrats on over 100,000 subscribers!!!

[@LegitScar]

finally my fav pokemon game of all time! I've enjoyed all of the nintended videos, but this... does put a smile on my face

[@SophiePf]

20:15 The "Feet don't fail me now" sounds like it's from the Anastasia song "Journey to the Past" 🤔

[@mizusenshisongs]

I totally thought the same thing! In the original song the line is "Heart don't fail me now." Also just gotta say... the Anastasia movie is SO underrated. I loved it as a kid and I'm pretty sure it's the first movie soundtrack I ever bought. I'm actually really glad it got a Broadway adaptation recently so that it can finally get some love. (Disney buying Fox, the company who made Anastasia, did also bring it some attention).

[@ProCrastinatorJay]

28:28 That is technically correct grammar, but I've never seen this Olde English phrase used that way. It's usually used like "to steal away", which means "to sneak AWAY quickly and quietly". But this writer used it to mean "to sneak INTO quickly and quietly".

[@beanceline]

that comment about BDSP releasing and improving on the og games aged like milk

[@sub-zero294]

lol

[@FrostGlader]

I actually got this guide for free with my Platinum Preorder at Target in Australia! It’s such a bulky thing, and my copy has definitely seen better days, but I do know a few things about it. During the era around Platinum’s release, they were actively advertising the events for that Level 100 Regigigas, the Secret Key, and Oaks Letter, which explains the Regi’s showing up early in the book, and Shaymin Sky Form on the cover. I also believe Platinum was released at a time there wasn’t updated Sugimori art for most of the Gen 2 Roster for whatever reason.

[@Charsept]

I already feel called out by the intro. I liked Shield and have never finished Platinum. xD

[@K0IBEE]

“and games they REALLY dont like” *proceeds to show my favorite games from the franchise*

[@PaPaSea]

that was the joke

[@Numba003]

I haven't played Platinum in ages. I'm not sure what happened to the copy I used to play growing up. I wonder if my big brother has it 🤔. I still have Diamond though lol! Thank you for another fun video! Stay well out there everybody, and Jesus Christ be with you, friends. ✝️ :)

[@Jdozjsnwj783]

Such a cool concept!! I'm definitely subscribing, bless the algorithm 🙏🏿. Followed these guides as a kid and this is a flash from the past haha

[@Lucaccino17]

I played Pokemon Platinum as a kid and had fun, but there is absolutely nothing memorable about it to me other than the weird dimension where you walk on walls. Maybe it was a good game but to me it was just a game to play until the next one Love the Scott Pilgrim reference though!!

[@EvenirX]

I had this guide as a kid and I loved it, not for the gameplay tips, but I used it for the Pokédex. I loved drawing Pokémon as a kid, usually just directly imitating the art I saw but it was still so cool

[@fatlinesofyeast]

“feet don’t fail me now” lana del rey read pokemon guides

[@pokelogikx]

18:48 massage girl is actually mentioned on page 90 as giving you an item as well as where she is vaguely

[@roshandinesh6701]

Pokemon x and y are good games. It really needed Pokemon Z ,I hope it happens in the upcoming years we get kalos remake or sequel. If it happens then it will be best games ever

[@dabmonstr7403]

Really kalos is awesome. Just being easy is why people hate it

[@peanutbutter6720]

@@dabmonstr7403 exactly, the world is incredibly detailed, the variety of available Pokémon is vast, but not overbearing, and it has my personal favorite art style out of the 3D games. If they were just a bit harder they would be the Platinum of the 3D games.

[@cephery8482]

Nah still the worst region since gen 2. It looks worse than all the other 3d games, and worse than the ds 2d games at the same time. Its the easiest game by some margin and the game just hands you some of the best pokemon instead of working for them. Like in sinnoh you get a lucario by beating a mini dungeon, hatching an egg, maxxing its friendship and levelling it all the way from 1. Meanwhile kalos just gives you a mega lucario, one of the most broken pokemon in the game, and it’s mandatory. It adds barely any new pokemon, and so many routes are empty. Nothing like the mansion, old chateau, valor resort and lost tower (in d/p) which are all completely optional side areas.

[@ZenoDLC]

@@dabmonstr7403 I do rather not like how there are so many rivals at once that they don't really get developed, how Mega Evolutions were supposed to be the big thing the region introduces but limit what you can use severely and gives so few to the opponents you face, and while this last one is completely subjective, I also hate how it basically started what I consider to be the Charizard Oversaturation

[@inkognito3145]

Omg hilarious how we actually thought bdsp is gonna improve on the sonnig experience. I even packed out my old ds to play platinum again because I was so disappointed. The underground was awesome tho I really liked what they did with it

[@tena2013]

Pokemon platinum will remain the definitive way to experience modern sinnoh. Legends arceus is its own thing and BDSP will not replace it at all

[@haunteddreams1498]

nah, the reamakes with quality of life changes while looking different will most likely play better. let alone the game speed. the og gen 4 games are just so damn sluggish

[@peanutbutter6720]

If they just make the exp share toggleable, I think bdsp could have a chance at replacing platinum. Unless they make it ungodly easy, that is.

[@tena2013]

@@haunteddreams1498 they look terrible and qol doesn't replace everything platinum had. Its wait and see now but if oras removed the battle frontier, bdsp might do the same

[@CEDL0W]

Yeah seems to be the case unfortunately. I wanted BDSP to be the definitive version just like how HGSS was for GSC.

[@tena2013]

@@CEDL0W remakes haven't been the same since. They don't put in the same care or effort

[@flygonmaster14]

21:11-Definitely love that "gabite the Cynthia" line~

[@jameskpolkastronomyhistory5984]

I've Been Looking Forward To This

[@tomasluna9460]

Platinum is still the definitive Sinnoh game, even with BDSP being released

[@emmeeemm]

I wanna finish watching this video completely, but this intro did not age well, as BDSP turned out to be trash that badly missed the mark with how Pokemon remakes are supposed to be done. BDSP did not, in fact, "improve upon" the Sinnoh Experience.

[@jesterpenetrator]

Yep

[@bb-yv7jr]

i remember as a kid getting this guide and the little origin forme giratina that came with the preorder

[@antic_proto]

Ah yes, my favorite party member: Gabite the Cynthia

[@luisantoniovacamolina2362]

I asked for Pokemon Platinum way back thinking it was a sequel at first I felt dissapointed but eventually came to love seeing all the changes and improvements from DP by myself.

[@jaydenlobbe7911]

0:31 That statement did NOT age well 0:40 It still is, BDSP isn't good lol 30:05 What did the Distortion World do to you? I personally love the Distortion World despite how little there is to do there, it's just a great set-piece for the Final Cyrus Battle and the Giratina Encounter :V

[@PaPaSea]

no, it aged just fine. the vast majority of people like it

[@jaydenlobbe7911]

@@PaPaSea Despite the fact that it's arguably the worst Remake so far because it includes almost none of the Platinum Exclusive Content (Unlike HGSS which included most Content from Pokémon Crystal) nor does it have Brand-New Content focused on Giratina (Unlike ORAS which has the Delta Episode) and no the method to obtain the Griseous Orb doesn't count

[@kageokami5]

Platinum was one of the first pokemon games that I played and the guide really did help me and that guide book was very well worn, torn, and written in. I replayed platinum so many times