Beef VS Soy Protein: New Study Results & Takeaways

[@joerizzo53]

All you have to do is eat beef and eggs and lift weights to stay healthy and slow aging.

[@DruidzTV]

Low stress & good sleep would be a good addition

[@MB19ap]

Ok, based on what? What studies show this? It seems that studies have shown the opposite and if we if we accept this study it's only because it tells us what we want to hear...

[@bmetal2]

Based on 2 milion years of human evolution! For the last 2 million years, human eats meat. But agriculture is invented only 12 thousand years ago. So %99.5 of human species life was based on meat, its your choise if you neglect it.

[@somethingelse9535]

@@MB19ap Those studies focus on meat eating combined with heavy carb/sugar intake. Not low carb at all. That's why you think meat is unhealthy. The new and relatively small number of studies on actual low carb are showing very good results, like the one featured in this video.

[@MB19ap]

@somethingelse9535 you're right, although there aren't many studies on long term low carb atleast that I have seen. I did low carb semi carnivore for a little while so I was eating a lot of beef and my blood parameters for iron ended up getting high, which wasn't something I want.

[@UncommonSense]

In other news, eggs are better than tofu

[@Highintensityhealth]

It’s shocking I realize, but so many people just look at total protein without considering the amino acids within the protein source.

[@jvlbme]

And by better you mean it kills babies and wastes resources? Perhaps you need an update on the meaning of "better"?

[@skeptigal4626]

Eggs every day, baby!

[@swamphawk6227]

@@jvlbme… I’ve never seen an egg attack a baby

[@jvlbme]

@@swamphawk6227 I wouldn't be surprised if you have, though. Delusions are one of the requirements for joining the crapivore cult.

[@Brandon-dg9lu]

This study is funded by National Cattleman’s Beef Association, which doesn't seem to be mentioned in this video, and if a study finding the opposite had been presented by Mediterranean diet proponents or vegans, I bet he would have mentioned that. Also, the groups are very small 8 each, after they each lost 2-3 participants, which is a significant percentage in with sample sizes this small, which I think he would mention if the paper didn't agree with him also. Yes there is lower leucine in soy, but you are not going to eat just 1 meal in a day, and this probably doesn't represent the total protein synthesis if you eat even plant proteins throughout the day--See Dr. Layne Norton's video "New Science Says Plant Protein is Superior | What the Fitness | Biolayne" (Dr. Norton does disagrees with the doctor promoting plant protein as superior, but would also I think see the problems in the study HIH presents). Also, anabolism from protein isn't the only important factor in muscle mass since insulin is anabolic (or possibly anti-catabolic, since there is some debate about this), but is not to play a role in muscle mass.

[@Hh-tu5bh]

This experiment is nothing about amino acids the result was because in textured soy the lysine get damaged. Regular soy isolate or tofu does not have this problem and is basically equal to red meat if this experiment was repeated with soy isolate the larger soy product would come out on top

[@berniewhitehouse2105]

I went vegan for 6 months. I ate a lot of food everyday and was very concentrated on getting enough protein. It literally didnt matter. It was like my body couldn't unlock anything in the food. I rapidly lost weight to the point of being smaller than i was in high school. I looked like hell and felt even worst. I eventually got a bad infection that almost killed me, my body had nothing to fight with, the infection got in my blood and eventually in my brain. Now 6 years later i am 100% carnivore. Its all i eat is beef, bacon butter and eggs. My body has never felt better, i lost 35 pounds, but it was water and fat. I continue to gain muscle and am getting stronger everyday in the gym.

[@doddgarger6806]

Yeah it's the anti-nutrients blocking the "nutrition" which is sparse anyway

[@robinkleinsteuber5217]

Beef ALL the way. Actually, grass-fed beef, pasture-raised eggs, and wild-caught fish are my go-to. Let the folks who like soy enjoy their soy, without it being imposed on folks who don't want it. The food cops should just take a breath of air, relax, and back off.

[@uuzoo]

Back in the 90s, I followed an octo vegan diet. I only ate eggs once in a while, but I lost muscle mass, and I put on fat. When I went back to eating red meat and eggs every day. I put muscle mass back on and I lost fat. But, I also switch to a keto diet. I took in lots of fat and protein.

[@onionjello]

I have never eaten octopus. What does it taste like?

[@swamphawk6227]

@@onionjello … I hear it’s chewy

[@DaveIrish66]

My body is thriving on mostly red meat. Plenty of fats and very low carb. As we age, we need to take advantage of every nutrient we can absorbed. 58 and trail running g long distances is challenging on the body. Love this way of eating. 🙏

[@tomninatriolo8085]

I tried vegan for a year....caught walking pneumonia. I went to my ENT and he put me on 10 days of antibiotics by self injection. I came back after 10 days still sick. My ENT was incredulous that I wasn't better. He started questioning about my life...stress level, sleep, etc. Finally got to diet and I proudly responded, vegan! He was shocked! He told me I needed to start eating meat twice a day because my body wasn't processing veg protein or amino acids. I started eating meat, gave myself 10 more days of injections, and got well 😊

[@somethingelse9535]

What's an ENT? Congrats btw.

[@tomninatriolo8085]

@somethingelse9535 old school term...Ear Nose Throat specialist

[@The_Conspiracy_Analyst]

rocking pneumonia and the boogie woogie blues

[@anulfolantigua940]

I have been Vegan For the LAST 10 years where is My neumonia?

[@tomninatriolo8085]

I'm happy you have not had it.

[@erickscott5732]

I'm eating 2 ribeyes as I watch this video. Saved the cattle farmers!!!!

[@Lawrence72117]

I have always been stronger, leaner and energetic when I consumed beef. The false information out here is why many don’t eat beef and will miss out on its benefits.

[@kylechwk]

My sister says once she's had some beef, it's much easier to "Do all the things"that need to get done

[@Toddis]

Thanks 🙏 more confirmation of what I already suspected 🍖 I feel much better when I'm eating meat, like my body prefers it My DNA comes from Sweden/Poland too, so it makes sense since those ancestors relied a lot on animal protein

[@richardparkersmith4810]

Funny how this is still under discussion in relation to humans when we were creating formulations for animal feed in the '70s with computers to get exactly the right amount of certain amino acids as well as about 20 other parameters to sole at lowest cost.

[@Hittdogg17]

Decades of anecdotal evidence now confirmed by science ❤❤❤

[@nobukazumikami5466]

Many people are eating foods with added protein like protein bars, protein shakes WITH added sugar or sweeteners. But many do not exercise or they are sedentary. High protein diet alone does not make you gain strength necessary to walk at moderate speed. US population lacks physical activity.

[@peterpan408]

While this is true. Only giving your body anabolic food in a deficit WILL cause weight loss.. and maybe some muscle gain just from daily activity.

[@OldRoadFarm-ck3mj]

Herbivores can synthesise amino acids from non-protein nitrogen sources which are abundant in plants (yet are still included in crude protein measurements). They possess the adaptations that allow an animal to live on (mostly) plant material (because no herbivore is stupid enough to pass up a meal of meat or eggs if one presents itself). Humans require preformed amino acids. Testing from the same soybean crop found crude protein varied by up to 20% and individual amino acids varied by as much as +/- 45%! That's far too much variance to provide reliable nutrition. Dr Peter Ballerstedt explains the difference between plant and animal proteins beautifully.

[@MichaelEdwardWright1]

There is a scholarly article that demonstrates that non animal protein eaters must consume 100% quality plant protein and even then it is not enough.

[@jimbrogan9835]

Food companies should not be allowed to list only total "protein." They should have to list amino acid composition. Amino acid composition is all that really matters, not just whether a "food" has any amino acids.

[@peterpan408]

Also some sources have low availability.. which means you can only absorb some of that protein. If they used 'Effective Protein' or 'Anabolic Index'. Would it affect people that don't even read the labels anyway?? If they ever did, they would give up the processed foods. But they live in happy denial while getting worse and worse. Most people don't know they should be prioritizing protein at all.

[@CleanMachineOnline]

Funding "The project was financially supported by a grant from the National Cattleman’s Beef Association." MPS does not mean more muscle mass. They know this, which is why they design studies based upon MPS, not muscle mass accretion. Anyone who understands human physiology knows this. This is intentionally deceptive marketing, not science.

[@rrrlasse2]

The beef group were all males, the other groups were 3/5 males/females. Females have alot less protein synthesis. Didn't they control for that?

[@timbo7873]

He actually commented that gender was mixed in both groups.

[@rrrlasse2]

​@@timbo7873 Yes, I know. But he didn't tell if they adjusted for it or not (i.e. if they compared males and females separately, then took the average of that)

[@blackprincegt]

Seems suspicious to me. I doubt this Mike fella will bother replying. He only wants to hear from those affirming his bias.

[@stingrae789]

There's nothing wrong telling vegans they're wrong. Ethical concerns are often overblown and consumers would often do better to support ethical sources rather than abstinence.

[@getter_done]

Thanks a lot Mike. I look at the amino acid composition …for me, I will stick with grass fed beef.

[@hanscoumans900]

Meat meat meat❤❤❤ eggs... butter❤

[@quake2u]

Great info. but the is only talking about protein and when it comes to soy there is so much controversy about hormone mimicking chemicals and GMO to consider.

[@Highintensityhealth]

Precisely so, not to mention the anti-nutrients as well as phytoestrogens etc…

[@jvlbme]

No, there isn't. Soy has plant - non-body-like - oestrogens, e.g. dairy has animal oestrogen. Turn your attention that way. The GMO soy is consumed by the animals crapivores eat.

[@Jeffs60]

@@Highintensityhealth Mr. Rogers thought soy was a good protein substitute and as a vegetarian he ate lots of soy and ended up with stomach cancer.

[@martinh1130]

@@Highintensityhealth Didn't Layne Norton cover that as a myth, or was he mistaken?

[@davidwiechecki9205]

What about the estrogenic effects of soy? That's a major downside to any soy product.

[@ebigarella]

Scary the amount of carbs that goes along with the crap

[@lindacgrace2973]

I also include pork along with ruminant meats. Pork is slightly lower in leucine, but pork fat is identical (not close, not similar to, IDENTICAL) to human breast milk. If pork lard is so unhealthy, why are we equipped by nature to pump it out for our babies? For another example: Northern Italians cook with butter and olive oil and live longer than Americans. Southern Italians cook with lard and olive oil and live longer than their northern countrymen. So I consume pork because of the excellent fat profile.

[@shun2240]

You’re wrong about breast milk, breast milk is highly dependent on what the mother eats, and nowadays that is a lot of linoleic acid due to seed oils!

[@lindacgrace2973]

@@shun2240 I would like to read that literature! It is my understanding that human breast milk is relatively stable in composition, with fats drawn from the mother's bodily fat stores to compensate for any nutritional deficits. In other words, seed oils affect the mother a lot more than the baby. For instance, in a recent paper, Ballard O, Morrow AL. "Human milk composition: nutrients and bioactive factors." Pediatr Clin North Am. 2013 Feb;60(1):49-74. doi: 10.1016/j.pcl.2012.10.002, the authors claim, "Human milk ... is not affected by maternal diet." I drew my conclusions specifically about breast milk fat composition from three studies: (1) Bryś, J.; Wirkowska, M.; Górska, A.; Ostrowska-Ligęza, E.; Bryś, A. "Application of the calorimetric and spectroscopic methods in analytical evaluation of the human milk fat substitutes." J. Therm. Anal. Calorim. 2014, 118, 841-848. AND (2) Yang, T.; Xu, X.; He, C.; Li, L. "Lipase-catalyzed modification of lard to produce human milk fat substitutes." Food Chem. 2003, 80, 473-481. And finally, (3) Ilyasoglu, H. "Production of human fat milk analogue containing α-linolenic acid by solvent-free enzymatic interesterification." LWY-Food Sci. Technol. 2013, 54, 179-185. Fortunately, all the scientific papers I reference here are available on Google Scholar for free so it's easy to check the research. If there is research showing that the damaging effects of seed oils are passed on through breast milk, I really want to know about it. Where did you find out that the damage from seed oils is passed on to breast-feeding infants? Can you point me towards the articles where you read about it?

[@paulcallicoat7597]

There is no C15 in pork. Pentadecanoic acid is a key component to our metabolic health and found only in ruminant animals.Dairy products are high in it and every Italian has to have cheese and cream. I love to put a few ozs. of porcorino on my ribeye but butter has a good amount of C15 in it as well. Pork is tasty in its many forms but can't keep us healthy if that is the only source of fat and protein. Survival isn't optimal if you suffer from reactive arthritis linked to pork that was fed a high grain diet. No breakdown of the toxins in a pigs gut because they have a single digestive track.

[@lindacgrace2973]

@@paulcallicoat7597 Dear Paul, First, I do not advocate replacing ruminant meat with pork, I suggested that pork has been wrongly vilified and should be part of any high-protein regime. Just as I do not advocate avoiding high-Omega-3 fish like salmon and sardines because they lack C15. Similarly, I think everyone should have a weekly dose of beef liver (Nature's multivitamin/mineral pill) even though it's not a significant source of C15. No one should ever eat any CAFO meats from the supermarket; not beef, poultry, or pork! Those food products are nutritional and ecological disasters. 'Farmed" fish is likewise a disaster nutritionally and ecologically. I strongly advocate for pastured pigs and poultry and grass-finished regeneratively produced ruminates. I agree that dairy and ruminant meat are phenomenal, and should be emphasized in the diet. I just don't think that they should be eaten to the exclusion of other healthy sources of protein. You're right - pigs are close enough to us as monogasts that they pass on more diseases than ruminants (trichinosis springs to mind). Yet another reason to insist on healthy pastured pork!

[@JosephMcMillin]

@@lindacgrace2973 I eat meat of all kinds, but beef is my everyday. This back and forth was interesting to me. I’ve been wondering for a long time why it’s only cloven hooves that chew their cud that were kosher. How in the hades could they have known any science to support that? Yet they got it right, like they get so much right. They amaze and terrify me, in equal measure.

[@edwhite2255]

Any concerns about constantly stimulating mTOR pathway? Do you think it might make sense to eat meat on heavy lifting days and plant protein on rest or cardio days ?

[@JoeJordan-t8h]

Tried the soy thing back in the 70s. What a pathetic mistake that was.

[@rof8200]

If soy and tofu actually build big muscles, the asians would have the largest muscles in the world but that's not what we see in reality

[@hbrown3953]

You are missing the point it's not about having big muscles how about they have longevity and their healthier so you have muscles and I earlier and very unhealthy

[@billshearer3984]

Tell your vegan friends to read an old Jack London short story called “a piece of steak “ Says it all

[@sunnysideup5826]

The bottomline not mentioned is that if you are going to the gym and hitting each muscle with the right frequency, MPS is already stimulated and need not much the stimulation brought about by the source of protein 🤷‍♂️

[@pookiroo]

Excellent topic. Protein efficacy differential between animal vs soy has definitely been on TOP of my mind. One question mark is: are we talking gmo soy or non-gmo soy? I would be interested in soy & synergies resulting from eating it with other foods containing certain minerals & vitamins such as vit C which supposedly increases protein & iron absorbtion. Funny how muscle fractional growth still occurred in the soy group even though their was negative protein synthesis. I could eat 225 grams (8oz) of non-gmo soy which is about 1/2 container. The only problem is that it only contains 20 grams of protein; 40 grams per container; so I would have to eat 2.5 containers. No way I could or would want to eat that. Beef seems like the only way.

[@FamilySmiffy]

Again received research grants from the National Cattlemen’s Beef Association. For some reason all your research seems to get grants from National Cattlemen’s Beef Association

[@paulcallicoat7597]

The facts are not manipulated. Look up C15,Pentadecanoic acid. Its found only in ruminant animal products. Be it dairy or fat and meat it is found only in those animals with multi chambered digestive tracks.

[@jarichards99utube]

Thanks, Great Overview 😊👍👍 -70SomethingGuy..!

[@dove72]

I thought you could get a proper mix of EAAs by combining plant proteins, so it's not surprising that soy alone may not be ideal. But what if you ate the soy burger with a couple slices of high-protein bread as a bun? Would soy and wheat give a sufficient mix of EAAs?

[@paulcallicoat7597]

No,it doesn't even keep your hunger at bay for more than a couple hours,too. Look up C15. Pentadecanoic acid. Nothing but ruminant animals make it and it is essential for our metabolic health.

[@mbrochh82]

Here's a ChatGPT summary: - A recent study found that animal-sourced protein stimulates muscle protein synthesis more effectively than plant-based protein. - The study included three groups: a four-ounce beef patty, a four-ounce soy-based patty, and an eight-ounce soy-based patty. - Despite the eight-ounce soy patty having almost double the protein content of the four-ounce beef patty, the beef patty still resulted in greater muscle protein synthesis. - The amino acid composition of protein sources is crucial for stimulating muscle protein synthesis, not just the total protein content. - The study highlighted that reduced grip strength is linked with a 45% increase in all-cause mortality, emphasizing the importance of muscle strength. - The study concluded that a four-ounce beef patty stimulates muscle and whole-body protein synthesis more than a four-ounce soy patty and similarly to an eight-ounce soy patty. - Essential amino acids, which the body cannot produce, are more abundant in animal-sourced foods compared to plant-sourced foods. - The study suggests that animal-sourced proteins like beef, eggs, and lamb are superior for muscle protein synthesis compared to plant-based alternatives. - For those choosing a vegan diet, a higher intake of protein is necessary to match the muscle protein synthesis effects of animal proteins. - Main message: Animal-sourced proteins are more effective at stimulating muscle protein synthesis than plant-based proteins, due to their superior amino acid composition.

[@ryanericksen1223]

I’m not sure if most people’s mortality rates are declining due to protein deficiency. If you obtain a lot of your protein from plants you also get minerals,vitamins, fibre ,prebiotics,probiotics. I’m also a skeptic when it comes to these new plant based meats etc. Mainly due to the fact that it seems the more processed food is, the worse it is for people, though obviously in this case we’re only looking at protein.

[@eniggma9353]

CARRRNIVOOORE POWEEER. great study.

[@djmagnitize]

Insulin is an anabolic hormone so only insulin-dependant diabetics are in a catabolic state, not pre-diabetics.

[@ws7001]

How could the 1/4 burger have 27 grams of protein plus that much fat? Was it dehydrated like dog food?

[@trail.blazer]

I cannot eat soy protein. It is the only plant 'food' that I ever had a clear reaction to. It gives me psoriasis. Even when I was WFPB, I stopped eating soy. A lot of bread products contain soy flour and kibble.

[@Charvo75]

I get extremely dry skin when I eat a lot of soy. I think soy allergies are common.

[@lorimiller623]

I don't feel well if I don't eat red meat daily.

[@BluePoo52]

So you’re saying don’t be a soy boy? 😂 I agree

[@pigeonhawk4832]

How about pork and fish, in addition to beef and mutton?

[@name-vi6fs]

We've known that plant based protein lacks the full amino acid profile for years. Spending money to reprove a theory. Hemp is the closest, having all of the necessary amino acids, but they aren't in the correct ratios.

[@zedek_]

Comparing all males to a group with mixed males and females? Bunk.

[@Highintensityhealth]

Gender was evenly mixed in all groups.

[@punchodex2]

​@@Highintensityhealth 4:30 says otherwise. The table shows 4 males in the beef group vs 3 males in each of the soy groups. Respectfully, that's not "evenly mixed." I'm not picking sides here, but the beef group conveniently is the only group with an additional male and one less female which seems like an unnecessary confounding variable.

[@kateolexis6901]

The table shows males/females not males/total people. The 4/4 in the first group indicates there are 4 males and 4 females in the group with a total group size of 8.

[@gasoline1707]

@@punchodex2 plus it's a really small sample size in general

[@mxj-x2r]

"The project was financially supported by a grant from the National Cattleman’s Beef Association" - from the study cited. Maybe worth mentioning as a caveat to better inform your viewers?

[@esther.f.g]

I get sick if I eat tofu, IBS with soy is not a good match. I tasted soy milk and is really disgusting, so I don't miss soy based products

[@markme3259]

…just a simple point…Impossible Burger is soy protein…whereas Beyond Burger is Pea Protein…so the amino acid protein spectrum would be different…

[@mariamagma-k6q]

It’s processed food

[@SKINNY_BRUH]

Sir, you are jacked 👑🔥

[@dougclark184]

Good information

[@crunchynetto6979]

beef+eggs, rock hard and steady~ my gf always complaints 😅😅

[@paulcallicoat7597]

The one component in beef missing from all plant base proteins is Pentadecanoic acid C15 which has been proven to be the missing link to metabolic health in plant based diets. Essential odd-chained fatty acids are important for cardio metabolic and liver health that is only found in ruminant animal products. Dairy products have good amounts of C15 and not found in chicken,pork,rabbit or any other animals. Eat the beef!!!! You are telling us the facts and so I am not wasting my money and time to eat anything else.

[@davidleahy6169]

Sorry but authors suggest no significant difference between beef group and 8 ounce soy( figure 2). Read text below box/whisker graph, only 4 ounce soy is significantly different. Also very small group size.

[@peterpan408]

It's just under-powered to measure that difference. But eye-balling and common sense suggest that 8oz soy is better than 4oz soy, and beef is better. Maybe 16oz soy is enough to achieve apparent parity.. but that's a lot of Soy to eat! And there may be a ceiling (limit) to soy digestion. What about 8oz Beef or 16oz Beef? Does it also self limit, or does anabolism shoot up even higher? If 8oz Beef was also there (it was a mercy for the soy that it wasnt) what would it have shown? What if they also collected that data, but it would have changed the conclusion from 'Soy can be anabolic' to 'Soy can be anabolic, but its nothing on beef, eggs, or whey!'.

[@perrysebastian6928]

Well...soy makes a great laxitive

[@madhusudan]

I will never eat this corporate slop. Meat, fish, chicken, eggs, dairy does me well.

[@gambunyakiatpetri8588]

Looking at the graph, I think of bubble tea 😂

[@CleanMachineOnline]

Animals, including humans do not and cannot make EAAs. All EAAs are made by plants (and some microbes). So all of the EAAs in animal foods originate from plants.

[@v8rockz]

It's not only about protein??? What's with collagen, you need more if you are older. Don't make it too simple...

[@peterpan408]

The complexity matches the audience. He can do deep, but the audience is limited.

[@sillyhead5]

This channel has a well-deserved reputation for being overtly anti-vegan (though to his credit, he doesn't hide this), and I think the hate it gets from vegan channels is justified. That being said, this is the first video I've seen on this channel that offers at least enough sympathy to veganism as to recognize that veganism is not a diet, but instead an ethical commitment that affects one's diet.

[@Ge1Ri4]

It's an ethical commitment that ignores how many animals are killed in plant agriculture, and that ignores the fact that veganism leaves one woefully malnourished no matter how "perfectly" one "does" it. I'm not saying this to be mean, I'm just stating facts. People want to save Bambi and Thumper, but they don't want to do the research to find the facts. There's a whole lot of debunked claims about how a vegan diet is healthy and how it's better for the environment, but, again, every one of those claims has been debunked. If one is going to claim that one is doing less harm, one should at least do the research to make sure one is doing less harm, and not simply drink the koolaid.

[@paulcallicoat7597]

I think he is trying to appease the mentally ill which is a common trait that all vegans share. It's a lost cause. The pentadecanoic acid and other essential lipids that are missing from all plants will cause major problems in all vegans metabolism and mental health.

[@peterpan408]

I am reminded to thaw some beef by this video. Hm.. getting a REAL 1g/lb/day protein, you gotta eat 4g/lb/day whole soy.. thats 600g+ of Soy.. A kilo of wet Tofu a day? No thanks. Could the body even digest 1kg of wet tofu in a day?? You also missed the king of proteins, Whey Isolate. Sure it's not an ideal FOOD, but it is the most anabolic. More than Beef?? Definitely cheaper than beef 🤔 The best plant-based option would be the plant isolates (Vegan Protein Powder). A Vegan could basically pound Vegan Protein Powder if they wanted gains.

[@livelearnandteach7402]

I think we need to appreciate that ancient man knew more than modern scientists give them credit for. We hunted for a reason.

[@HansGrob]

Hunting was very dangerous, so it was often avoided, if alternatives. Do you think they liked broken and infected bones in a world without surgeons and antibiotics. Maybe you tried it, you could join a still existing hunters-gatherers group, for instance in Tanzania.

[@Ge1Ri4]

​@@HansGrobsince agriculture didn't exist until less than 10,000 years ago, what do you think modern humans and our sister and ancestor species were doing for the 2 million years prior to agriculture for food?

[@OldRoadFarm-ck3mj]

​@@HansGrob No - we weren't making thousands and thousands of arrow and spear heads for arts and crafts. We used strategies that did not require us to exert or endanger ourselves. We are persistence hunters. Our prey overheat long before we do.

[@HansGrob]

@@OldRoadFarm-ck3mj Full of myths. What do you mean with 'we'? There are different subspecies of our species. You are lucky if of West European descent, because able to digest milk, and not being very prone to metabolical diseases, with a genom from about 1/3 from original hunterers-gatherers. If someone lives like them, then me, because I am moving everyday, do a harder hiking, cycling, winter sports tour every other day, am then exposed to heat, cold, thirst, hunger, exhaustion. Consequentually, I am very fit, but have also had some injuries: three tendon ruptures in the hand, one hand and one wishbone and one nose fracture. I have no specific preference in food, especially not meat and egg. It is evident that those tools which don't decay remain over centuries - can lead to misinterpretations.

[@HansGrob]

@@Ge1Ri4 They were most of the time ape-like and ate fruit and bulbs, rarely meat. Think about how fast some folks adapted to milk. It took only centuries. GIVE US OUR DAILY BREAD.

[@The_Conspiracy_Analyst]

10:28 HEH Chud chickens need to "touch grass"

[@alwinsauer6857]

Beef breeding is healthier than chicken breeding?😂

[@robertbeckler5058]

Soy patty?

[@nazcraz11]

Wait, how do academic institutions "foist" certain diets on people?

[@RagdyAndy]

stop changing the damn camera angles

[@virojvithayaveroj256]

And what about other beans?

[@Winterascent]

What about them?

[@toology55]

They make you fart.

[@Highintensityhealth]

It’s a good question, fermented, lentils, and other beans may yield similar anabolic results to soy.

[@jdbailey442]

There is no vegetable sourced protein that is as bioavailable as any animal protein. Legumes, grains, nuts and seeds contain antinutrients that also interfere with mineral absorption as well.

[@jvlbme]

All beans are the same. They are great for you.

[@mikebennett4829]

Correct what he said it’s the amino acid profile that’s why when eating vegetables you eat a lot of different vegetables to get a combination of amino acids because they don’t have as complex amino acid profile as meat 😮but you can still build muscle and be healthy and probably live longer cause you’re not eating all that beef Meat 😮

[@sgill4833]

I went from whey to casein and now to pea.protein. I have high homocysteine, so I prefer lower methionine

[@RagdyAndy]

Never empathise for a vegan....

[@millersleathershop2458]

Life is not complicated. Eat your meat and go outside and play. That’s it. The secret to good health.

[@MB19ap]

I don't believe in studies unless it confirms what I believe. Nearly everyone here.

[@bmetal2]

Why you don't believe in this study?

[@MB19ap]

@bmetal2 I haven't read it yet, I find it's better to read studies myself rather than listen to influencers. Without reading it though I have to think to myself about whether it is really relevant to me. I can get quality protein without even eating beef, just by eating eggs, chicken, fish and dairy. Then I wonder how much of a difference it really makes to me, since I'm not a bodybuilder, just a guy looking to feel good and be healthy.

[@somethingelse9535]

@@MB19ap You can do fine on eggs, chicken, fish and dairy. But this video is about the pitfalls of attempting to get quality protein from plants. It is widely accepted it is not possible, unless you stay in the plant based echo chamber. Makes me wonder why you avoid red meat. Chicken for example is not a great source, it lacks omega 3 and fat in general.

[@MB19ap]

@somethingelse9535 I was eating a lot of red meat for a while and my blood parameters for iron were getting quite high, which isn't ideal for me. Some people need the iron and other nutrients from red meat, so for them it may be beneficial. As for chicken, yeah I guess every food has its drawbacks. Is there any that are perfectly healthy for all people? I try to rotate my foods so the negatives don't compound as much.

[@somethingelse9535]

@@MB19ap Red meat and oily fish are the only foods without drawbacks, they have everything a human needs. Eating them wouldn't give you toxic levels of iron, something else must be going on with your health.

[@sonofednawelthorpe8609]

The blue zones are where people live to around 100 years and are both mentally and physically healthy. These are usually where - eg Japan - there is a plant based diet and very little meat and high soya consumption. The most meat obsessed in the US tend to die young and are obese. You don’t see vegetarians and vegans on My 600 In life.

[@somethingelse9535]

Also, Okinawa (which that fraudulent book targets) has the highest consumption of pork in the world. You don't see vegans presented as a picture of health, degraded lot they are.

[@Highintensityhealth]

Blue zones are BS.

[@leemanwrong]

People from blue zone areas eat a wide variety of food which includes plenty of animal products.

[@OldRoadFarm-ck3mj]

The Blue Zones have been debunked by the scientific community many times over. Japan is 8th in the world for T2 Diabetes rates.

[@mynexusca]

Asalamalaikum God.bless you brother for this wonderful information very informative. Please everyone one day read the Holy Quran in its entirety you will learn no prophets including Jesus Never ever ate pork. Friendly reminder God loves us and sent prophets to follow not to follow what man allows like Paul etc.. Jesus Never ate pork. God bless all God fearing religious people no matter what religion you are to the right path InshaaAllah. God bless for everyone.

[@RajeshPatel-fe8rn]

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[@KJSvitko]

Go vegan for your health, whole food plant based. Go vegan for the animals. Go vegan for the planet. Go vegan and be healthier and happier. A lower risk of heart disease and cancer for you and a better planet for everyone, human and animals. Eating healthy is not a diet it is a healthy life style. Go out and look around. The vast majority of people you see are obese or al least over weight. People do not need to be fat shamed BUT being over weight is not healthy and leads to a host of illnesses. When you look around you can see all the unhealthy people without taking a blood test or a fitness test "NORMAL" for the average American is "UNHEALTHY" The health of society is in decline.

[@Ge1Ri4]

Everything you said is just the opposite. More animals are killed to produce vegan food. Plant agriculture is destroying the topsoil (we don't have much topsoil left), forests are cut down to grow more plants, thus releasing more CO2, going vegan decreases health longterm and makes one more likely to die of lifestyle diseases. Archaeology and biology are in full agreement that humans are evolutionarily designed to be carnivores and were almost entirely carnivorous until the end of the last ice age when the megafauna we preyed upon died out. We invented agriculture to survive. The animal husbandry allowed us to thrive, but developing grain agriculture just allowed us to survive, and develop diseases like arthritis and dental caries that didn't exist prior to agriculture.

[@jamiem3115]

Good luck with that, although you might want to research how many animals die as a result of monocrop agriculture. EVERYTHING dies to optimise output. EVERYTHING above and below. Let’s also not forget the extensive over use of Glysophate which penetrates into the crop. Good luck with that.

[@somethingelse9535]

Go vegan to destroy your health. Go to a crop growing region in Australia, silence. Go a 1,000 miles north to the desert (but still cattle grazing) and you hear the sound of birds everywhere. Because monocropping means wildlife extermination. Also, cattle grazing has zero environmental impact, uses rainwater falling free from the sky and zero carbon impact since cows merely recycle carbon in the environment. Win for cattle grazing, big L for monocrops.

[@leemanwrong]

Why would eating in a way our species has not eaten for the vast majority of its existence be healthy? Makes much more sense to eat the way that our species has eaten for hundreds of thousands of years and that is a predominantly meat based diet as shown by stable isotope analysis.

[@jamiem3115]

@@leemanwrong precisely. 💯

[@madhavameegaskumbura2691]

Plant proteins don’t have saturated fats. So while eating animal sources of protein think also of how your life will shorten. A bit more muscle, shorter health. Span.

[@leemanwrong]

Nope there nothing to show meat shortens lifespan.

[@stepheneverhardt4731]

Where did you get the idea that meat shortens life?

[@peterpan408]

​​@@stepheneverhardt4731 Ancel Keys, the Vegan Mob, Havard 😉

[@Jeffs60]

All plant proteins and all plant foods have some saturated fat even raw broccoli has a small amount of saturated fat but you would have to eat 100 calories to get some and even human breast milk has some saturated fat so it is in your genetics to have it.

[@Ge1Ri4]

You need saturated fat in your diet to make hormones. Meat doesn't shorten lifespan.