Behringer Model D vs. Moog Sub37 - comparing the sound (Riamiwo StudioVlog 89)

[@Sleepysidney]

I own neither but reading the comments I notice a lot of people saying that the Sub37 is the more aggressive of the two. However that is definitely not my impression. The top end on the Model D seems more aggressive to me whereas the Sub37 is really smooth. From this demonstration I'm not sure if they can be compared on that level. They both sound great and have their place. For the money the Model D just can't be ignored.

[@ronnieaux5290]

The SUB-37 has a very low range on the filter, so the really top-end harmonics are filtered out it seems. The Minimoog has one of the most open filters I've ever heard. Also, the SUB-37 has a lot more sub bass content (A LOT MORE) than the Minimoog Model D. The SUB-37 also gets much crunchier because there are 3 stages of distortion available (mixer overdrive, 'multidrive', and feedback distortion). But I would say the Minimoog Model D has the more EPIC distortion sound - it gets extremely powerful and deep.. very cinematic type of overdrive. I think the two most epic synths for overdrive are the Minimoog Model D and the Prophet 6 (the P6 has this way too aggressive distortion that sounds like a guitar pedal, so it's like an overkill of crunchy distortion that has a very cinematic, out of control, sound in a different way) The SUB-37 overdrives/distortion, to me, just makes for better EDM/Dance/Modern Electronic music kind of a cruchy sound.

[@ronnieaux5290]

@sbmphr I really do think that Behringer nailed it with their clone. I've considered selling my Model D for a Behringer one many times. But i decided to keep it only for its historic value and frankly because i know the components inside are better so it satisfies my inner purist. But if it were only that I want a minimoog model d tone in my productions, I'd get a behringer's for sure. I hear no issues with it at all. A+ job

[@nirdavidor3326]

I have both I agree with u slippy Sidney ...sub 37 less aggressive less snappy and the noise sound awful and destroy the sound ...also the lfo doesn't do good job \\\\ such a shammmmme....

[@CDA43]

The top end on the Model D is the sound of cheap transistors and capacitors from CHI-NA, that's why it sounds aggressive.

[@ArtyPartyMusic]

For me Sub37 has the most agressive tone of all Moogs I heard.

[@slipper-uk9878]

model d super snappy envelopes , very impressive

[@NotSoSilentPete]

They both sound good but it’s a weird comparison to make. A model D is a model D: smooth, creamy and deep. The sub 37 is amazing for everything distorted and dirty plus crazy modulation.

[@Konekotek]

Peter Venne I agree it's a bit of an apples and oranges situation. I think there's enough A/B tests of the original and clone Model D, so this showcases that you can get at least somewhat similar raw analog power without having to break the bank. In my opinion the sub37 is the best "recent" Moog synth, if Behringer cloned it id buy it in a heartbeat. Both are beautiful ~

[@dennismossinkoff7993]

YESYESYES ILU MAKE ONE!!! AND sell a million piecies heheheheh

[@kaitsu9608]

@@dennismossinkoff7993 these synths are possible because electronic circuit patents only hold for 25 years..... And i love it.

[@OblivionRatula]

I have a Sub37 and hesitated a little on grabbing a D wondering if it was redundant. Mine should show up tomorrow and I'm pretty sure I'll be happy to have both to play off each other. Some people are saying this was a pointless comparison, but I disagree and were I still on the fence about it, I would be convinced to jump in. I appreciate the effort here.

[@alphanumeric1529]

So what are your thoughts? How do they compare to your ears in your studio?

[@rohanpp786]

Thank you for the comparison!! Sub 37 is an obvious winner for me. Just so smooth and yet so edgy! But definitely modelD for its price is mind boggling!

[@strazza555]

The sub37 sounds more high-fi and smooth, but maybe it’s just my eyes 🤷🏻‍♂️ they’re not meant to sound the same, but nice to see them head to head. Considered the 37 but couldn’t say no to the $300 moogy box

[@intrascendente]

That's the problem when listening with eyes instead of ears :)

[@MrBasic]

I like them both, hands down! Great video

[@matsewunderlich]

9:13 Model D sounds fantastic!

[@thelostandfoundworkshop]

Listening in my studio through BM15 monitors and I am skipping the Sub37 sounds basically every time. Very harsh and unpleasant to listen to. I’m in shock at how beautiful the Behringer D is. Unbelievable Thank you for this video, I notice the effort put into it… Be well

[@jonrobertspiano]

The sub 37 has filter tracking set at 1:1 when you initialize a patch. If you don’t intentionally change this, you don't get as much top end sizzle on it as on a D. Consequently, many folks conclude that the sub 37 just sounds that way, and suggest that setting the filter slope to 6 is the only remedy. But all you have to do is reach over and turn the filter tracking knob to 0 and...there's the top end everyone says is "missing" from the sub 37. It's even more apparent on the subsequent 37 because it's harder to overdrive the mixer section, where as on the sub37, even the initial patch was getting pretty close to overdriven, and once you turn up oscillator 2, it definitely was. And as far as overdrive, the subsequent 37 has one of the most beautiful filter drives I've ever heard. If you want to spend another $300 just for great drive, send your sub 37 to Moog and have them upgrade the circuitry to subsequent37 circuits. It's worth it. Anyhow....turn down filter tracking and don't overdrive the mixer if you want it to sound like a D. In every way, the sub37 is a ridiculously more diverse and capable synth. No one should regret owning one, especially not because of some comparison to a clone of a much more limited synth.

[@elissitdesign]

One major thing to consider is usage. The Sub has memory preset recall which is far better for performance with included keyboard. With a 1500 price tag it’s more approachable. The model D is great for studio use or simple performance patching. The size does make it easier for travel though.

[@Rizamusic]

I gave this a blind listen and my ears perked up whenever the Model D played. Thanks for the great sound comparison!

[@halion9]

The sub37 and the subsequent37 with the improved filter have the huge advantage of storing patches. Having said that, patch programming on the model d is quick and easy once you get used to it.

[@jmoffitt36]

My eyes love the Sub 37 but my ears love the D. Seriously the 37 is smooth and refined and of course can be pushed to be dirty. Great modern synth worth every cent and run circles around the Boog. Still the D is so Raw and punchy just love it. Good comparison. They go well together.

[@coldwar1977]

model D for pureness of sound, Sub37 for amazing possibilities

[@riamiwovideos]

maybe the perfect summary :)

[@earthisarealm5393]

Yeah i agree! Model D take a lot of other modules and devices to bring out the possiblities. Everything is self contained within the Sub37 making for amazing hands on playing. Sound wise...the model D is nicer! I think its best to just have both!!!!

[@jaydenjo3330]

coldwar1977 great summary

[@technodrone313]

i just picked up a model D for 240 from goiter center. It's amazing even though it's my 6th analog synth.

[@redherring5532]

Always wanted a Moog. So I ordered the Sub 25 on a wild hair, wish I'd have done more speculating and research could have gotten two different units for that price, oh well. The Sub 25 looks really nice, an elegant peice of hardware.

[@cmangrum1]

John Ortiz I want the sub 37 so bad! What features are you sacrificing with the 25 vs. the 37?

[@redherring5532]

@@cmangrum1 Forgive me as I'm not very knowledgable on the differences much, I'm a guitarist venturing to electronic music. I got the 25 simply cause I wanted the nice craftmanship of a Moog. The sub 25 appealed to me cause I liked that I could bank settings (16 banks) and it was a few hundred bucks cheaper than the 37. The 37 has more octaves on the actual keyboard, but the 25 has two buttons to make the two octaves available go higher or lower, being an unskilled keyboard player I couldn't imagine myself spanning more than two octaves poking sounds around and turning knobs scouting sounds to play in my tracks. I think the 37 has duo mode and not sure my 25 does, as well a few more controls over sound. Also if I want more octaves on the keyboard there's a midi in so I could interface a larger midi keyboard if I get real into it.

[@SyncdAlien]

Very nice test. Enjoyed listening.

[@aerialgrey2566]

Awesome videos. Thanks. I recently just purchased a Model D. I love it, especially for the price.

[@monkeyxx]

Wow, the Model D really holds up well, here

[@ludotex]

2 different beasts. The sub37 doesnt shine for brightness of osc, but is great in other department (pre filter feedback is great to shape the sound). I found out that to open the filter a little more, you can use the 6db slope. You'll get a tiny bit more brightness.

[@SailfishSoundSystem]

They both sound great. Add a good analog delay and a reverb and I doubt you would be unhappy with either. It's nice to bridge the gap. Hell, maybe to bury the hatchet, Moog, Behringer and Dave Smith should make an instrument together? Come on you know it can be something awesome!

[@johngorgis]

i doubt uli behringer and dave smith would ever collaborate,as uli tried to file a lawsuit against dave

[@SlavaChrome]

Smith and Moog are passed us… =(

[@AdamTheAd-vanc3d]

The model d in my opinion has s better top end . Great demonstration.

[@riamiwovideos]

Thanks:) I agree - the top-end of the model d sounds better and more alive

[@AdamTheAd-vanc3d]

riamiwovideos Most definitly . Its incredible for the price.

[@mattwht783]

Thats fair enough when you compare the sound of these two. It all comes to the taste preference, maybe lets not forget what sub comes with in a package? Fully weighted aftertouch keyboard/sequencer/arp/glide options/assignable modulation per step/ loopable envelopes and many more functions that mode d does not have. Whatever sound you prefer, but these two units can’t go anywhere near to a comparison. If you need just a sound, yes its cheap, grab model d, if you want a full functional crazy expressive bossman mono synth you know the answer

[@randommuiscchannel1049]

This an awesome demo. I have a sub37; working on the model D

[@MELOPSMUSIC]

the D is winner for snappy bass , faster enveloppes.

[@chadsix4838]

Fantastic demonstration!

[@rareform6747]

Buy both and run them together ?

[@Sonikbytes]

that agressive and classic tone on boog gives me more goose bumps :)

[@RubiconRecordings]

Slam dunk for behringer

[@hafstrat]

I have a sub 37. I think I need a behringer D too. For that sound.

[@riamiwovideos]

definitely a good addition!

[@hafstrat]

I got the behringer for my birthday. Love it. Very different to my sub 37. Work together great. Only issue with the behringer is lack of pitch bend adjustment for external control. Otherwise perfect.

[@hafstrat]

I have a behringer d now. A great combo.

[@Sicolirics]

if you listen from min 6:57 to 7:37 you realize that the Behringer does not reach the sound warmth of the Moog

[@beatnickPL]

Great comparison man!

[@drbop6951]

Sounds like they could complement each other well. Be great to hear some actually well crafted music over this repetitive noise generation. Cheers

[@intrascendente]

I had a model D, but sold it a couple a months ago. Since I make live pop and electronic music, I didn't like the fact that the Boog did not have a bank for presets. That makes it difficult to perform live and try to change between presets on stage. Now I have a Sub 37. It is awesome. It has lots of presets banks. But it is not that portable. And you know what? I really miss the Boog. Its sound was certainly more aggressive (awesome for long naturally-distorted drones), while the Sub 37 has one of the finest top-end harmonics. Thanks for this piece of comparison. Now I know that I have to re-buy a Boog ASAP.

[@YasserAbdelmonsef]

Great comparison ❤

[@mikelo303]

Sub has more umph and roundness but for the price, you cannot beat Behringer.

[@samjones714]

I received my D yesterday and I am very satisfied, I think my Slim Phatty gets pretty obsolete the coming months...

[@han1218]

4:12 and 5:50 is why I think the Poly D is a winner, at least to my ears. (not just because it's louder) fully saturated fatness, from the punchy attack to what follows. Maybe he didn't mess with the knobs well enough on the Sub37, but he couldn't get that same tone out of it.

[@han1218]

but the fact that you can store presets and fully automate everything from your DAW, the Sub 37 is the winner.

[@kvmoore1]

I think the reason he couldn't get the same sound in the Sub37 is because he probably had the oscillators set either on the wrong waveform or had the square wave pulse width set wrong, which would create a drastic contrast in the tone of the square wave.

[@han1218]

@@kvmoore1 well, in the beginning it was definitely a different waveform, but towards the end he got to a closer tone, yet still didn't have that same saturation to it... But of course, different equipment, different voltages, different knob positions. Maybe he had the Poly D for longer. He got to what he wanted faster.

[@kvmoore1]

@@han1218 Yeah, I agree. BTW, I think you meant "Model D."

[@han1218]

@@kvmoore1 yep, my bad 😆

[@ageshero]

Is it weird that the only thing keeping me from a behringer is that the cutoff knob isn’t +size

[@rinzeheer]

You can change the OSC 2 and 3 knobs with the cutoff and resonance knobs, this way you have the size you want. I think you do need to open the synth for this, but still it's possible.

[@bryantphethmanh6689]

You can actually just remove the knob caps off and mismatch them. I took the giant tuner knob and swapped it over to the filter cutoff and vice versa. You just pull off :)

[@javierbenitez5202]

@@rinzeheer yeap . easy to do it in one minute

[@wafflestoast5228]

I think if you're buying a sub37, you can afford to get both! Use the sequencer on the moog to control the D

[@maconins123]

The Moog is a great package! However I spend the money on an ob6 used and got the model d. Good enough for my uses.

[@urbannpa]

So now you need to redo this video with the Behringer Poly D.

[@jacarpini]

wow I'm impressed with both, I had a MiniMoog years ago back in the 80's should have never let it go. The reissue minimoog seems over priced. the Sub 37 appears to be very capable and I bet it can do everything the mini does. the Behringer sounds great and could be a nice module to add however the knobs are too close together for me Im going with the sub 37

[@_EightySix]

Yeah, the extra few millimeters between knobs is definitely worth 1200 bucks.

[@umonox]

Why comparing apples with pears? Imho the D should only be compared against a real Moog Minimoog Model D - because this is the one it is based on.

[@Wolfdings]

The Model D has not only a Low- bud also a Highpass filter, so you can also tweak the upper frequencies to let it even more sound as fat as the moog. Absoluetly awesome synth! Thanks for the comparsion!

[@antiHUMANDesigns]

The behringer D is pretty decent. It suonds a bit trashy, a bit unrefined, but that doesn't mean it sounds bad. It's clearly got quite hyped top end, too. I would definitely get one if it wasn't for the fact that they're known to have awful tuning/calibration, which makes them absolutely useless. Not everyone will have this problem with their unit, but the fact that it's basically a gamble to buy one means I won't buy one. Such a damned shame that they dind't get that important part right... I just ordered a Moog Subsequent 37 CV, though. Good stuff.

[@girlinagale]

My Model D stays perfectly tuned after warming it up for 15mins and tuning each oscillator to the useful A440 hz reference tone. Then I can use it all afternoon. The oscillators sometimes benefit from micro-detuning to get a beating sound between them.

[@antiHUMANDesigns]

@@girlinagale Good for you, then, but I've heard others having serious troubles with it.

[@freddiebozwell7049]

both sound great,are you using an external sequencer? cheers.

[@inevitablecraftslab]

the model d has a noisy hiss in the top-end, is that a distorted input or is that the sound of it?. especially in the beginning with the filter closed.

[@JaymeSilverstein]

IT is true. IF you ban off the outputs of each host it helps a bit also I run mine through a empirical labs deesser and that helps a TON.

[@ltxr9973]

Interesting. It's evident that you're exited about the new Behringer though :D

[@ZenMountain]

Excited. Excited.

[@ryanphillips5218]

I absolutely love my model d. Only issue is it came from the factory slightly out of tune, but calibrating it is super easy.

[@thisjustin77]

the behringer model Ds all have this same issue unfortunately.

[@folkfingers9645]

If intro bassline was played by Model D I would buy it no second thoughts. So which one is on bass?

[@ivayloivanov3744]

Aggressive vs smooth. Can't decide which one I like more.

[@Sleepysidney]

Which one are you hearing as aggressive?

[@humanbeing_]

Great video! 👍 first I’ve seen from your channel; just subbed with all notifications. Well done! Cheers, -H.B. PS: *I JUST bought my BEHRINGER Model D yesterday.* My first analogue synth/physical piece of gear _(aside from a MIDI controller & audio interface)_ and it arrives January 6th - REALLY looking forward to playing this instrument! 😬 I was also considering the Neutron and the Roland SE-02, but in the end, the sound, the filter, and nod to the Mini Moog Model D just won over my decision. Hopefully I’ll be able to get the Neutron in 3 months or so... Then after that my eyes are on the MS-1 which I think Behringer got incredibly close to the original SH-101 sounds and feature set. Later!

[@powermix24]

Paid 219$ for the Model D at Guitar center. So at that price, it wins hands down.

[@XeonMC01]

Which synth make the arpeggio in the intro ?

[@1990EAM]

Could the intro be played with a Moog Grandmother?

[@ushnicyuvnikof2748]

Prefer the model D by a mile. Thanks for saving me a lot of money

[@hooch8395]

i think the 37 is way cleaner but this may just be as the guy said below setting differences

[@Sicolirics]

I stay with model D 💙

[@TheKeyboardGuy-f3c]

They sound identical. $300 vs $1600, I already have Two small MIDI controllers, yup, no brainer. I'm glad I went with my Model D. 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩

[@rafschoenaers3013]

Whether you prefer the sound of the Moog or the Behringer, you can't deny that the Behringer is way more worth it"s price...

[@Mabelrode77]

Big Thanks! I am a Newbie and check on KZbin the Model D Sound. Find your Video an Love the Model D! But, yes, i have not enough Money for the Sub37, my choice going to the Sub37. Why? I dont now the Word in English....Fetter.... Ahh, Deeper around my Shoes and Neckhair^^ Both are GREAT, but what i say? I am a Newbie 😁Nice Video 🎹🎼

[@DheerajSukumaran]

proud owner of Behringer Model D

[@sonicneutronic]

Proud seller of my Model D, and buyer of Subsequent 37.

[@_EightySix]

@Boofsquad Most likely over half the shit you own was "made by slaves" in China, moron.

[@robertodidomenico814]

possiedo sia il model D che il SUB 37 CV e malgrado ritengo il Model D veramente godevole e bensuonante, il Moog rimane sempre il Moog, più rotondo e cremoso, con bassi ineguaglibili se non da Minimoog, malrado i due oscillatori , si ottengono dei suoni veramente straordinari... MOOG forever

[@tomaszchrut272]

I'm sorry, but it's not true, with respect for Moog.

[@electriceyeslide5959]

There is nothing the Model D can do the 37 can’t and the 25 can do A LOT more!!

[@rdm5190]

Might as well compare it(the d) to a poly6 too(did that too,have both),apples&pears my freind. I own both,they both have their place and the d is a great "little"unit as is the sub...but 299$ is easier to justify than 3500$ for a mini,sorry purists the price is the factor on that comparison... wow factor has to go to the beringer d,way to go beringer!!, now wheres that odyssey? I wana do a comparison with my original arp.. We're waiting patiently!!!

[@jumpingeezus5080]

Who am i playing with? Would make more sense to me. Duh#!

[@kevingamache1512]

Wow i love the D. I am a moog lover from the 70s. My first was the one they made for radio shack and it went nuts from there. I do however like the D better here. Great vid.

[@recurvmusic]

Behringer Model D puts the Sub 37 to shame here. I have a Sub 37 and I was expecting this to be the case as there's certain sounds you just can't get out of the Sub 37 that you can the Moog Model D.

[@shawnsaul7759]

bad programming on the sub37. Watch Mike Pensini, model D sounds can be done on Sub37

[@lucasbacle399]

And vice-versa

[@ronnieaux5290]

@@shawnsaul7759 You have to admit the tonality is way different. You can try getting close but they just have very different personalities. I've made the exact same patch on my Model D as my SUB-37 and they are just evidently totally different timbres. Both great though.

[@Screaming-Trees]

You should turn down the oscillator volume section. Way down actually. The Sub37 starts to distort as you drive it past 12 o'clock in the mixer section. If you don't want to lose to rich harmonic content keep the oscillator levels below 12 o'clock.

[@KosmoDeuz]

When Trees Will Rule The World Again tanks

[@MadelnMachines]

Model D sounds much better for me - so in your face and that high end bite. The sub lives up to it's name - all sub not much high end. I've always wanted a Sub 37 but now i'm not massively impressed. If you want smoothness just turn down the filter on the D - if you want high end bite on the Sub - seems like you can't have it!

[@shubhashishghosh7964]

For the price of sub 37....i would by 3 behringer model d and also a neutron....then it would equal to the price of sub 37...for this i would have 11 osscilators and limitless possibilities...which sub 37 could never reach.....small knobs doesn't matter....what matters is the sound.

[@ikoukourakis]

Or a polyphonic Model D (4x voices). The only problem is that you'd need to adjust the patch for each module individually but... Imagine the sound.

[@MS-Patriot2]

John E. Koukourakis ... and today we can!

[@TheMachinesWon]

Model D all day for me...Oh look at that, there's extra money in my pocket as well haha

[@JulienDu92]

i own two synths deepmind 6 and korg monologue, the sound from model d is more "elegant"

[@Jimbo386000]

Personally I like the sound of the model d better. I think it just fits the style or sound I like more. I like the brightness while still being fat. The sub sounds like it’s just fat. Good in its own way though.

[@Fishoilification]

you could have also turned on the sub generator ya know. it adds to the fatness

[@CDA43]

The sub osc in the Moog really shines. They both sound good, but the low end of the Poly just isn't there for me. Listening on: Yamaha HS80m, mogami gold wiring from LA Sound, apogee symphony MKI. The sub in sub37 is made abundantly clear with that sick -1 octave SUB osc. Not a fair comparison really imo, but damn for $300 the behringer is up there. Anyway, a lot of mone you spend on a synth isn't just the sound. When I pay good money, I need my synth to not fuck up, to last forever, to be under quick and painless warranty, to not wear down, to last me a life time. A lot of these Model D's come de-tuned, as is a problem with analog shit, and the only fix is to get out a soldering iron and cross your fingers. A real pain the ass. And judging by previous behringer gear from the past, I can't see any of these standing the test of time. So, I'm also willing to pay for headache medicine I guess I should say.

[@mpmi7588]

Seems like those who don't have the funds for a sub37 are automatically going with the Boog instead of just being honest about the sound. Clearly the sub37 can get very close to sounding like a Boog. Close enough that tiny differences wouldn't matter to the average ear. Let's not forget that the Boog is modeled after the company that makes the Sub37. Lol. AND the Boog cannot do what the sub37 can do. BUT for the price.... the Boog is a serious catch.

[@marcosantacruz9086]

If one is to be honest, you'd have to compare a Moog model D to the behringer model D... The sub 37 is a different instrument and only being shown here for similarities comparison... Now that the model D is out, it's pretty clear that it can do and sound just like the original Model D from Moog

[@wispa1a]

Godzin

[@alpersungur6979]

Sub is clean with depth

[@clembmusic]

Toujours aussi magique !

[@aevin_io]

I own a sub37 and this video makes me wanna sell it :p

[@hafstrat]

AEVIN don’t. I have both. They are very different. Both are wonderful.

[@angel00demon]

Hmm sounds like Mauro Picotto

[@angel00demon]

New time new place... with Ricardo Ferri ?

[@darekmojsak1214]

Lke this

[@BetweenBeatsNDreams]

sub 37 sounds thicker/fuller to me

[@AdamTheAd-vanc3d]

Beats&Things Yes i would agree with you. However this ins what i think and ( i hope this makes sense). I wonder if my following statement is true. When you hear an oscillator with a brighter top end it "seems" to sound thinner and distract your perception of the lower end . Where as an oscillator that sounds duller has a more perceived bottom end presence. Maybe the fact is the whole spectrum is there but ears pick up the sweeter spots first.

[@PatrickDiAngelo]

To me too.

[@HOLODECK-MUSIC-PROJECT]

Nope

[@MrLeeCox]

You should check out the video Starsky Carr did.

[@MrLeeCox]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/porblGuIlLasqZI

[@riamiwovideos]

thanks... I watching it right now:)

[@AdamTheAd-vanc3d]

Lee Cox Yes that was a great comprihensive video.

[@MrLeeCox]

Adamski A. He was one of the reasons I bought a Sub 37. Great reviewer.

[@randommuiscchannel1049]

Almost like comparing apples to raisins ...sub37 sounds like it has the depth and raw synth character.. model D does sound good for what it is.. I am listening through head phones and have a sub37... (being objective), ...sub37 wins... it’s obvious

[@alphanumeric1529]

Even as crazy as the sub37 is supposed to sound, to my ears, it is more controllable, and more refined as an instrument. Like the 37 would work better with other instruments in a mix. I don't own the 37, and am just coming around to the D, really considering a purchase... though I'm hotter on Behringer's MS-101. That'll be first.

[@georginikolov1141]

It doesn't win shit that's not rally they are both great synths both fat as fuck the sub 37 its more capable sonically hence the price

[@Honking_Goose]

The fact u said "being objective" made me laugh when actually thats the last thing you are being you see Behringer and you discredit it

[@lambertfooks7358]

@@Honking_Goose ---- To each his own I guess.... this is a sound test, Model D is different to clarify.... I would use if if I had one

[@randommuiscchannel1049]

@@georginikolov1141 lets see how long it lasts.... I would still use one...

[@justinb9387]

D beats it easily

[@PatrickDiAngelo]

i don't think so...

[@thes.wilsonchannel203]

You crazy man

[@smeckysmellmen6182]

Let's see...should I spend $1,500.00 for the Sub 37 or $300.00 for the Model D?

[@brianlespoir6287]

I only hear 2 osc of the Model D.

[@lincolnmicrophonellc]

if you look you see the third osc is off

[@DennisNy75]

i will now be buying a Model D after watching this .. 300dollars vs 1300 dollars ..Behringer is gonna steal Moogs money all day .. they can have mine now.. i no longer need to buy a 1300 dollar synth!! fuck ya ..Love Moog ..Love Saving Money more..

[@marrymemaddie]

Sub 37 is unbeatable. Easily the greatest synth of all time.

[@jacobbrown1690]

i think the little phatty has a way nicer filter and much better sound. i have both.

[@marrymemaddie]

jacob brown Most people don't understand the Sub 37. Check out the Starsky Carr videos. The Sub 37 is a beast.

[@tekszet]

Hell, you might as well compare it to an ARP 2600 and a Oberheim Sem as well. lol

[@aknekd]

I cried

[@RoomAtTheTopStudio]

With all due respect this video isn't doing the Sub37 justice. Try putting the filter slope at 6 so it's more comparable with the Boog. 24 isn't giving it that higher harmonics that the Boog has. The envelope won't help you there so no point trying to tweak that. Resonance and Multi drive gives you that. The Frequency and the FDBK knob as well. The Sub37 can give you some of the Boogs top end harmonics once you set the filter correctly. The Model D is brighter but the Sub37 is far more adequate at those sounds than this demonstration illustrates. I have to point this out or people may think that this is a balanced comparison. Respectfully I disagree with what this video conveys

[@pco2004]

Luke Kage - so glad you pointed that out. I got the sub 37 to emulate the top crispy edge of the Boot rather easily using those tips. Big thanks for that critical tip.

[@RoomAtTheTopStudio]

@@pco2004 Glad it helped. It's the whole point that the Sub37 can sound smoother or just as raw as the Model D if you know how to program it. I'm lucky that the sales technician who sold me mine had owned both so he showed me the basics of how to make it sound like a Model D and then I just experimented with it.

[@lownrgy]

D sounds better to me

[@urbanloops]

Comparing the 2 does absolute zero good without you trying to match the synthesizers. You're basically playing 2 completely different instruments.

[@richiefamus8778]

I own a sub 37 and sound wise the Model D DEVASTATES it.

[@cvtogate]

For those that say the Behringer puts the Sub 37 to shame doesn’t own, never played or programmed a Sub37. The Moog Sub 37 has a more aggressive character and different tonality. This programmer did not do the Sub Justice...The Sub can sound like a Mini Moog and more if programmed properly ....The Behringer Model D can only mimic the sounds of a “Mini Moog”. For those that don’t own a real mini moog the Behringer does imitate it to a certain degree....and of course it’s by far cheaper in price but the REAL MOOG has a certain attack, sustain and fatness that the Behringer doesn’t deliver. Appreciate the effort but it’s like comparing apples and oranges.

[@Screaming-Trees]

Ahmm no. Sorry. It doesn't. The Model D is an astonishing effort on Behringer's part. It really is. I'd love to agree with you because I love Bob Moog but it's simply not true mate. Infuriatingly the Model D is pretty spot on doppelganger for the Mood Model D reissue. The Sub37 is a completely different beast though and if I'm honest it's a bit less flexible. It tends to be a distorting mess pretty quickly. This is why I think they redid it with the Subsequent which has a lot more headroom in the mixer section. Love the Moog but it doesn't deliver more fatness or attack and it certainly doesn't deliver "sustain" in a unique way. That's kind of a bizarre comment about the sustain actually. And I own the Moog man (I don't own the Behringer.).

[@cvtogate]

rudiger It’s not spot on at all, yes it’s a great effort, agreed. I have an early release original Minimoog, Roland SE 02 and a Behringer Model D to compare it to name a few. There is a difference in depth and roundness that my Minimoog has over the Behringer and that’s subjective in my opinion. Most people forget that back in 1983 Studio Electronics made on of the first Midi Moog clones....that was spot on.

[@Screaming-Trees]

It's not spot on with an early release Mini Moog, no. This is true. That said I think they were aiming for the re-released version Model D as a reference point and that's been pretty spot on. Moreover, the re-release model D is probably not spot on with your early release Mini Moog either. And it's probably safe to say that between any number of original Mini Moog versions there are vast differences in tone and tolerances etc.

[@F-Andre]

:D ahahahha

[@Konekotek]

Agreed on the programming bit because the sub37 is an amazing synth that goes deep in what you can do with it. Also I disagree on the differences between the original Model D and the behringer one. I own both, the only thing that differs really (which is entirely workflow oriented) is the smaller knobs making dialing in sweet spots a tad bit more challenging than on the original. Other than that, it's identical. Also while you're here, wanna buy my model D off me?😆

[@jonotwycross8998]

winning is sub 37