BEHRINGER XM8500 VS SHURE SM58 - Which to Buy?!

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Dark Corner Studios

Dark Corner Studios

Күн бұрын

One of the most requested videos on this channel, so I finally broke and bought an XM8500.
Gonna put it up against a bunch of other mics, including the XM1800s, SM48, SM58 and Sennheiser e835.
Wanna buy a mic or two?
US Links
Shure SM58 - amzn.to/3s3ScPM
Behringer XM8500 - amzn.to/3eQ2lvp
Shure SM48 - amzn.to/3eRT2et
Sennheiser e835 - amzn.to/3cJNuQL
Canada Links
Shure SM58 - amzn.to/3bWkV35
Behringer XM8500 - amzn.to/3lx2bdJ
Shure SM48 - amzn.to/3tLK2fp
Sennheiser e835 - amzn.to/3eRWvtz
UK Links
Shure SM58 - amzn.to/3bX9oR3
Behringer XM8500 - amzn.to/3bYS12A
Shure SM48 - amzn.to/3f0qgIy
Sennheiser e835 - amzn.to/2P2SoQG
Time Stamps
00:00 Intro
01:13 How it compares physically
02:12 Specs
02:50 Off Axis Rejection
03:15 Plosive test
03:22 Handling Noise Test
03:40 Mic Comparison - 1800s
04:07 Mic Comparison - SM48
04:47 Mic Comparison - SM58
05:25 Mic Comparison - e835
06:30 Final Thoughts
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My Gear -
Mics - RODE NT2A - amzn.to/2WWQTnn
- TZ Audio Products Stellar X2 - amzn.to/3gHTj0X
Mixer - Arturia Audiofuse Studio - amzn.to/33kSBnq
Secondary Boom Arm - amzn.to/2WBhveB
Camera - Canon T7i - amzn.to/2X3yTYi
Lenses - Canon 50mm 1.8 - amzn.to/2LxiI0k
Canon 24mm 2.8 - amzn.to/2zF96Ok

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@djtommykeys
@djtommykeys 2 жыл бұрын
If we weren't doing these A/B tests and you did the entire video on the XM8500 my ears would have been comfortable with it and I wouldn't have wished you had a better mic. That says a lot for a mic I can buy in 2022 for $20 from a major retailer.
@cmstrike
@cmstrike 3 жыл бұрын
I just think the XM8500 a really solid mic regardless of the price, and a great value when you consider the price.
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 3 жыл бұрын
I'd have to agree at the price point...it does stand alone
@occupynow99
@occupynow99 Жыл бұрын
The XM8500 is probably one of the best value mics on the planet. You just can't go wrong with them. They sound amazing and are built like a tank. In a live room setting, especially with a band, good luck telling the difference with a SM58 through the PA. There just isn't one.
@jonathansoko1085
@jonathansoko1085 7 ай бұрын
I'm going to buy one of those behringer Mike's for a little hip hop album I'm going to do over the week next. I love doing little projects like that with specific pieces of hardware because it just inspires me to get creative. 90s music was so good because there was limitations and that limitation read a lot of creativity so I'm going to give it a shop. It's less than the price of lunch
@NoProblemoStudio
@NoProblemoStudio 6 ай бұрын
​@@jonathansoko1085Xm5800 is great overall, but not great at rejecting sibilance even with an added windshield. If u got extra money, go for sm58
@skorpers
@skorpers 2 жыл бұрын
I would recommend the xm8500 for the people who are more than likely looking at it because of it's price point. There is very little being missed out on over microphones costing 10x as much. It's not bad at all, throw a windscreen on it, with just a little space between the grille and the foam and there should not be any plosive issues in normal speech.
@asfodhell
@asfodhell 3 жыл бұрын
I actually prefer the XM8500 ... Which is why I chose to use it over other available mics. It's allowing for a high output level without getting too much treble. Makes for a more bass-y voice ... Less aggressive. I'm certain it's less natural sounding, but that's how I like it. I wouldn't use it for singing or to mic a guitar/bass amp cabinet (got the Peavey PVi-2 for that). For my use, it's pretty much perfect. It's also only 15€ in Europe ;)
@LoftyAssertions
@LoftyAssertions Жыл бұрын
I can absolutely vouch for the XM8500, insanely good value and with some processing it's fantastic for a dynamic.
@jasonbodden8816
@jasonbodden8816 2 жыл бұрын
The XM8500 held up really well to all the others. Impressive. Lots of mics better than the 58 out there. I would definitely buy the XM8500 again. The king keeps its throne here maybe but definitely is dethroned by a whole host of other dynamic mics out there. That said, I will replace my stolen SM58 at some point just to have one. And yes, because it's tried and true, built like a tank yadda yadda yadda lol.
@cheeriosy
@cheeriosy 3 жыл бұрын
A comparison between the e835 and the sm58 would be great, especially in some different environment and contexts!
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 3 жыл бұрын
I like that idea...comparisons in different environments... I will look into that!
@chriscutress1702
@chriscutress1702 Жыл бұрын
As someone who has multiple SM58's and some XM8500's, It's surprising how well the Behringer XM8500 stands up against the other mics in this presentation. The Sennheiser e835 sounds best of all the mics demoed but just barely better sounding than the XM8500. I'll definately have to check out the e835 in person.
@dancurran8977
@dancurran8977 3 жыл бұрын
I bought an xm8500 as an upgrade to the mic on my headset that I use for conference calls. It is plugged in to a Focusrite Solo interface. I also use it for experimenting with Audacity as I learn about VO work. I have read that the Focusrite is a pretty solid piece of equipment. The mic will do me for a while and then I can upgrade it if I get serious about VO.
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 3 жыл бұрын
If you are serious about VO...a move to a condenser would be your best bet...
@pathmusicwriting
@pathmusicwriting 2 жыл бұрын
the 8500 is a perfectly serviceable mic, 99% of people who are listening to whatever you are recording aren't going to notice.
@thefreese1
@thefreese1 Жыл бұрын
I find the 8500 fits my voice better than the 58 ... However the 8500 required more gain to do the same job ... When working with older PA systems the 58 can be a little tougher to EQ out any feedback issues because of the 8500s having more side rejection.. The 8500 does fit someone well who likes to eat the mic...... Shure mics are good .. I need to try the e85 .... have not done that yet , however your comparison videos have brought it to my attention... Good job , really appreciate your videos That said, I bought 4 8500s for my setup in my shop ...
@itscarlosreally
@itscarlosreally 2 жыл бұрын
I commented on a few of your recent vids since I'm on the hunt for an "upgrade" for the XM8500, but every time I see it being compared to anything in the 100 USD range, I just believe I should stick with good old Behrry. Hahaha!
@From_A_Diverging_Timeline
@From_A_Diverging_Timeline 3 жыл бұрын
I own an xm8500 and for the price I like it. It sounds good. I just got an sm57 and it's a nice step up from the xm8500.
@robertocalderonabogado1427
@robertocalderonabogado1427 3 ай бұрын
I like how the XM 8500 sounds. More pleasant to listen for long time.
@tbone_yt
@tbone_yt 12 күн бұрын
I’ve been using an XM8500 for years and thought I’d upgrade to the SM58 or Beta 58a but tbh I think I like the mellow sound I get from the XM8500 which I also heard in the side by side .. Great Video 👏🏼👏🏼
@davidsillars3181
@davidsillars3181 3 жыл бұрын
The 8500 is about 30 Canadian and the SM48 is closer to 140…in the UK, so based on price the 8500 is excellent value. It does need a decent preamp and some tweaking in eq imo. That said, it's a brilliant low cost back up and starting budget podcasters could certainly use it. Nice vid.
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 3 жыл бұрын
Sm48 is 80 CAD right now on Amazon...
@davidsillars3181
@davidsillars3181 3 жыл бұрын
@@DarkCornerStudios Is that because you're closer to China? 😂 First time you compared the 48 there was virtually no difference in price between it and the 58 in the UK. Who knows how they price these things. That's a possible area of research. 👍
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidsillars3181 I am actually fascinated by that... There is discrepancy between Canada and US as well...it is almost double the price...but that isnt the same chasm when looking at the sm58... It almost seems random...
@veesoho93
@veesoho93 Жыл бұрын
Great video, new fan here ! Wind screen included!
@steinbsand
@steinbsand 7 ай бұрын
working on stage, with many teens the xm8500 is truely amazing or in pop up situations where gear might be exposed to people or weather, cuz while the sm58 withstands as well if not better, the pricing of the xm8500 makes it so easy to have a bunch of them if something fails, or as a back up on hand if something happens to the sm58, since the sound is quite similar. when I used to do audio engineering for a local teen bi weekly event, the lead singer and speaker mic would be a sm58 and all the back-up singers used xm8500 (it was a bit scuffed as well, so when someone had a fully acoustic guitar we also used the xm8500, with a decent EQ it sounded pretty ok.
@coldhardtruth333
@coldhardtruth333 6 ай бұрын
What?
@Mike-ol7xp
@Mike-ol7xp Жыл бұрын
I've had more people through the years grab for an XM8500 than the SM58. So much so that now I have just as many of them as the SM58's.
@Marshall_Brulosophy
@Marshall_Brulosophy Жыл бұрын
I *think* I can hear a slight difference between the SM58 and the XM8500, and I basically agree with your assessment of how it does with lows and highs-- the SM58 is king for a reason. Buuuuuuut, I still bought 4 XM8500 mics for the price of 1 SM58 to use as backups when I'm recording podcasts with additional guests on the road, and with a little editing in post, they blend right in with my SM7B, Heil PR40, and Rode Procaster mics.
@design1of470
@design1of470 3 ай бұрын
I've had an XM8500 for like 15 years now, I've used it for band vocals, streaming and podcasting. I considered upgrading to an SM7B, I ended up just buying a back-up XM8500 instead.
@cantamusquerbeat
@cantamusquerbeat 6 ай бұрын
I have access to both the XM8500 and the SM58. I use the XM8500. It's not better, or worse, it just sounds slightly different, and for my voice it seems to "fit" a little bit better than the SM58. A the end of the day it all just depends on what you want, what you can afford and what you like the best.
@MohamedAhmed-lo1vj
@MohamedAhmed-lo1vj 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison but in fact the XM8500 is a hotter microphone. It's sensitivity is not -70 db as listed by Behringer themselves. I believe it's closer to -50 db because Behringer is using an old method of measurement or at least of reporting their numbers. *So although the SM58 has a transformer inside, it is still a quieter mic than the xm8500.
@BangsNaughtyBits
@BangsNaughtyBits 3 жыл бұрын
Be aware the -70 dBV for sensitivity of the XM8500 is using the old method of calculating it. Using the modern method it would be a very sensitive -50 dBV or ~3.16 mV/Pa.
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome...didnt see that
@BangsNaughtyBits
@BangsNaughtyBits 3 жыл бұрын
@@DarkCornerStudios See www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-transferfactor.htm for some conversion widgets. This also applies to the XM1800S which is -52 dBV if I recall. The Audix OM7 is -61.9 dBV and the least sensitive mic I know of. It's a close singing stage mic for loud venues. !
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 3 жыл бұрын
Good to know. I noticed it wasn't much of an issue in post... Figured I was gonna have to boost it more than I did. Cheers and thanks!
@sec21
@sec21 3 жыл бұрын
You have to wonder why they did that. It's very weird.
@BangsNaughtyBits
@BangsNaughtyBits 3 жыл бұрын
​@@sec21 There are lots of numbers that have slightly varying standards on how they are calculated. The big one I tend to look at is the EIN or Equivalent Input Noise of interfaces. Some are A weighted which means they roll off the low end and the high end to model what the human ear actually perceives and some just report the raw noise. And they can calculate it differently as well. The frequency response graphs between companies can be completely useless to compare as well. I assume Behringer just never updated an old cheap mic to the newer standard spec in this case. Odd as a fairly sensitive dynamic mic in this case looks to be something requiring a very very beefy interface or CloudLifter to even work. !
@MichaelW.1980
@MichaelW.1980 3 жыл бұрын
The sound of the Behringer XM8500 is as good as I did expect it. Not as much difference to much more expensive microphones, as the price difference would suggest. The body borne noise on the Behringer XM8500 however is bad it’s basically the same as with the Behringer BA85A. I got the Shure Beta 58A to compare to the BA 85A and the Shure wiped the floor with the Behringer one in that regard. The Shure SM58 again is surprisingly bad in terms of handling noise. I Didn’t expect that.
@ptr_does_music7042
@ptr_does_music7042 6 ай бұрын
I don't know, perhaps it's my personal taste, but the (really small) missing part of the higher spectrum that xm8500 misses compared to the other mics makes for a sound that feels more round and gentle in my ears. The default is you wouldn't want a potentially muddy vocal track, so every bit of the mid-highs feels important, but after handling the xm8500 in a home studio for multiple recordings, minimal tweaking is all it needs for it to feel amazing. Best buy for a beginner!
@hellomeatrobots
@hellomeatrobots 3 жыл бұрын
The XM8500, SM48 and SM58 all sounded close enough to the same to me as makes no difference. The e835 sounded brighter. This seems a little odd because my SM48 and XM8500 do not sound that close. Behringer can't be measuring sensitivity like everyone else, there is no way it's 13dB quieter than an SM48.
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 3 жыл бұрын
Its not...another user pointed out that that was based on the old measurement. I noticed it too in post, as the 8500 didnt need as much of a boost
@TheBlueArcher
@TheBlueArcher 2 жыл бұрын
saw the XM8500 currently at 26cad on amazon decided to check a few reviews... At this price point it seems to be the absolute hands down best option... I'll get ONE SM58, but man the stuff where I need multiple mics I don't really need quality. yet at this price range, this is currently the cheapest AND the best quality.
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 2 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie...I just bought another one for a project I am doing...
@DJUwU
@DJUwU Жыл бұрын
I can hear a slight difference between the SM58 and the XM8500...but only when I am wearing 250$ open back studio headphones. Basically...like Dark Corner says...SM58 is better sonically. It has nearly the same frequency response...but the mid/highs are just a little bit more clear/higher fidelity in the SM58. XM8500 sounds just a little bit more muffled...but for 1/5th the cost...its amazing. Probably the best value for money microphone on the market today. If you are using this as a live microphone...and people will be holding the mic with their hands...SM58 has less handling noise from my experience in the past. But XM8500 should work from recitals to talent shows to small gigs. I feel like only get the Shure SM58 when you are using it for studio/a big venue contract.
@JMRSplatt
@JMRSplatt 3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how good the SM58 is.. and 57 of course. I'm a life long drummer but recently got into self recording, streaming, etc, etc.. The 58 is just so easy to work with. I'll put it on my snare bottom and flip it up for vocals the next day.. or even use it for a room mic at low volume! wild!
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 3 жыл бұрын
It is literally the swiss army mic. Plus you can prop a table up with it while waiting for the next gig.
@JMRSplatt
@JMRSplatt 3 жыл бұрын
Another use!! :)
@waimeaguyz9074
@waimeaguyz9074 2 жыл бұрын
You be the judge since you have to live with your decision. I'm a shure sm58 man. This mic can withstand abuse and still sound good after 30+ years old, mine still sounds great. I may buy the 8500 for donation, freebie gigs. Behringer makes good gear.
@ulfrinn8783
@ulfrinn8783 3 жыл бұрын
As for the SM58 vs E835, I like the E835 a lot more, especially for speaking tasks such as live streaming, voiceovers, etc because it's a lot clearer and easier to understand with a bit less bass that can make the SM58 sound muddy and incoherent, especially with deeper voices. Overall, I'm really not a big fan of the SM58 in general. It's a good mic, but IMO, overrated at its price point when you have mics like the E835, AKG D5, and others available. As for the XM8500, I feel Behringer should make a kit offering the XM8500 along with the UMC22 or UMC202HD interface for around the $65 or $90 price point depending on interface as an entry level kit. Cheaper than, sounding way better than, and being a better fit for streamers and podcasters than the Blue Yeti. I think that's where the XM8500 could really shine. Personally, I prefer microphones with a flat frequency response, giving me more flexibility with EQ to make it sound however I want a microphone to sound.
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 3 жыл бұрын
I have heard several people say the same thing about the e835 vs the sm58...
@ulfrinn8783
@ulfrinn8783 3 жыл бұрын
@@DarkCornerStudios Yeah, and with it and the AKG D5, I don't see the value in the SM58 at $100. Especially when cheaper mics get pretty close to it for a heck of a lot less.
@AutumnSky
@AutumnSky Жыл бұрын
Ik this a year old but I need your opinion. I need a xlr setup under 150. Im a streamer/youtuber. Right now, I can get a used goxlr mini with a xm8500 or a podmic/ elgato wave dx (same price) with teyun q12 (£15 audio interface which is apparently better than um2, umc22, m track solo and also can run an sm7b with max 60db). My budget includes the boom arm, the xlr cable and amy accessories like pop filter and shockmount. Both setups are equal to about £150. So what do you think and do you recommend anything else. I think the 1st setup is better for me because it has so much control for streaming with a decent mic and the other has good mic but bad control
@MatthewLT420
@MatthewLT420 2 ай бұрын
I don't own behringer mics but having borrowed them I always consider buying them because they come with cases
@JohnnyTyrone77
@JohnnyTyrone77 4 ай бұрын
For those of us on a budget the XM8500 is a great affordable choice..I used them as lead mics(with proper eq-ing) until I was able to afford cordless lead mics.I now have 4 XM8500s and they are great for background vocals.We all know the SM58 is the industry standard and worth the price but if you are on a shoestring budget the XM8500 is the way to go!
@TheDtroupe
@TheDtroupe Жыл бұрын
This mic fills a budget roll. I use it for hosting karaoke at bars and kids parties. Im way less stressed when these get dropped 🤣😂
@JC-fj7oo
@JC-fj7oo Жыл бұрын
Really depends on how many mics you need more than anything. If you are doing a podcast with just yourself, then investing in a 58 or even a sm7b or a condenser would be great advice. But if you're doing a news show with 3 presenters and multiple guests... that 8500 starts looking like a good idea. I can get 10 behringers for $300. And that means more money for the cables and the mixing boards to handle all the channels.
@AntonioMeres
@AntonioMeres Жыл бұрын
Yes! Please! We want e835 vs SM58!
@LordVictorHalgaard
@LordVictorHalgaard 6 ай бұрын
Seems the main difference is that the Shures and sennheiser have more dialed up treble, to sound clearer/more detail, in exchange for being a bit harsher.
@gillihansmobilewelding6318
@gillihansmobilewelding6318 Ай бұрын
The 58 is the best studio mic in the market if you understand mic placement. The proximity effect offers an on-board equalizer that can be controlled right at the source. Need more lows? Move it closer. Need less lows? You know what to do.🤙🏼
@deadthelongyear7486
@deadthelongyear7486 4 күн бұрын
Move it more and more closer till where u get the eat and taste that legendary mic finally? Yes?
@deadthelongyear7486
@deadthelongyear7486 4 күн бұрын
Lol just a joke but yeah i’m gonna buy one soon and get exited to test it
@gillihansmobilewelding6318
@gillihansmobilewelding6318 3 күн бұрын
@@deadthelongyear7486 awesome! You'll love it.
@meneerjansen00
@meneerjansen00 8 ай бұрын
Over my Sony amplifier and Mission speakers, my 50+ year old ears I do not hear any difference between the Shure and the Behringer. The difference, however, between the B. and the others is there but very, very small. The "others" sound a bit more "high". Squeakier, that is. Probably has more to do w/ my ears than the hardware.
@crazyeyecarl
@crazyeyecarl 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the SM48 cause of this review, and the one comparing the 48 with 58.
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 2 жыл бұрын
Aw that's sweet...hope you like it!!
@stoneyrunva
@stoneyrunva Жыл бұрын
Having used both the 58 and the 8500 in pub karaoke with repeated use I speak from experience when I say the 8500 and the 58 are both excellent mics. Each can take a beating and perform time after time. In that environment, I can't hear a discernable difference in the quality aside from the fact that I tend to require lower volume from the 8500 than the 58. I use foam caps on both mics. Plosives aren't an issue with either mic. All things considered, I'll be ordering a couple more 8500s.
@Godzillah
@Godzillah Жыл бұрын
My seinheiser mic on sale at guitar center just as good work with interface as well. Got it out of the discount box.
@DigIntoGaming
@DigIntoGaming 3 ай бұрын
OK this is like my 5th video of watching people compare the XM8500 and its sounds amazing and has very little noise. I just dont get how a $25 mic can sound this good. Or maybe my ears are just super broken. But I am listening with hyper x cloud II headphones with a motu m2. Now yes the XM8500 is muddy, but that depends heavily on the persons voice. Im just looking for a mic with as close to 0 noise as possible. I do use a fethead but I still get lots of noise when trying to hit -14 lufs.
@theoutsiderjess4869
@theoutsiderjess4869 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought the xm8500 as a as starter mic and to have fun with it
@arthurmendoza6926
@arthurmendoza6926 2 жыл бұрын
XM8500 it's a good microphone I love it I also have the sm48 can't really tell the difference
@matthewpritchard6109
@matthewpritchard6109 Жыл бұрын
I've used SM58s for my live work for years. But recently I bought a couple of XM8500s. Why? I had less than £50 and wanted two microphones that would be 'fine' for using at an open mic night where, respectfully, I didn't want someone nicking my working 58... No, it's not as good a mic. *BUT!* It does a good enough job for live work where you can EQ a bit. And you can get four of them for the price of one SM58. And, realistically, how many drunk punters are going to be able to tell the difference at an open mic night in the upstairs room of a pub? (Hint: there's always ONE f-wit in the crowd with an opinion... :))
@Kaelem..
@Kaelem.. Жыл бұрын
I’m not going to lie, I did not hear much of a difference between the xm8500 and the sm58. Xm8500 seems to REALLY hold up against all it’s competition surprisingly for the price point
@johnpatitucci7919
@johnpatitucci7919 Жыл бұрын
SM58 is the Fender Strat design for mics... Everybody has their version.
@haydenwayne637
@haydenwayne637 5 ай бұрын
I have both, I use the sm58 to brighten my voice a little and the xm8500 to darken my wifes voice a little. The xm8500 still needs a bit more eq though to sound good, without eq it sounds like it's wrapped in a blanket.
@kitcorvie
@kitcorvie 2 жыл бұрын
I listened to the comparison repeatedly and I noticed something. It sounded like you didn't level match the output of the microphones in post. On the side-by-side, the difference on volume is too conspicuous but I just told myself that maybe it's just my ear fooling me because the other mics are brighter. But then I heard the SM58 before transitioning to the XM8500 5:19 when you said "I already know what my answer is, sorry" then "and now for the final competitor". Maybe you're just closer to the mic after the transition to the next side-by-side, but even if that's the case, does that mean that the difference on the sonic characteristics of the "big kahuna" and the "knock-off" significantly diminish with just better mic technique/mic placement? Remember, the price of the Shure is three (3) times the price of the Behringer (10x if you're from the UK and you got the xm8500 for £8). Is the sonic quality astronomically better? Because if you're someone just starting out, the price of the SM58 can buy you the xm8500 and an audio interface (squeeze in a pair of budget headphones if you're good at anticipating sales). If you're someone who does gigs and wants to own your personal mic, some venues/soundman won't let you plug anything in their mixer unless it's a Shure. But since they usually have multiple SM58's, I think you're better off just buying a mic foam. :)) But if you're an aspiring content creator who's not brand conscious, then the xm8500 will be more than enough. This video demonstrates that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXrKq6F4ZZJ8edE And if you have the mic foam, you can cheat your way into cleaner audio through this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pV7XlmmemM2Dp8k Always remember, your audience will not notice the difference between the sound of any properly built microphone unless you point it out (but sometimes even if you described the differences in the best way you can, they really can't hear it lol). Audio is just like a pretty girl, expensive make up doesn't really make her prettier, she might look different but not better.
@plasmastudios6107
@plasmastudios6107 2 жыл бұрын
Thx 😁
@kitcorvie
@kitcorvie 2 жыл бұрын
@GigaDestroyer I just don't want people to think that they have to spend so much money on a mic, especially if they're just starting out. My girl started a podcast with just an adapter, an XLR to 1/4" TS cable, and a dynamic mic that they use for karaoke nights. The mic is just plugged directly into the audio input of her mac using a TRS to TRRS 3.5mm adapater and she uses a pair of bluetooth earphones for monitoring. Her sound is already waaaaaaaaay better than people who uses condenser mics in an untreated room. The only thing she needs to focus on after that is the content. That's what we should all do, focus on the quality of our material rather than obsessing on the gear.
@ymelfilm
@ymelfilm Жыл бұрын
That 50 Dollars mic also sounded better, warmer, fuller. I cant hear enough dynamics in the Behringer, I ve ordered it though..lol
@sofivdiaz_
@sofivdiaz_ 5 ай бұрын
i don’t know if i should buy the SM48 or the XM8500, what do you think? i am a singer and i need it to sound nice doing high notes, so please let me know your opinion
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 5 ай бұрын
Sm48
@TigerlilyBaby
@TigerlilyBaby 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the dynamic mic 🎤 you are using for this video ?
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 2 жыл бұрын
There are a bunch...XM1800s, XM8500, SM48, SM58 and Sennheiser e835
@badmiddens
@badmiddens 2 жыл бұрын
"better" than the sm58? I agree, no. But the whole comparison thing gets weird for me. I like to pester the afternoon guy where I work part-time with my nonsense by bringing mics in and having him do blind listens. On one such occassion, I brought in an xm8500 and recorded some material compared to a sennheiser md421. Super unfair, right? On my voice, which is not unlike yours, (a good, flexible medium range, in my opinion) My colleague's hyper-eagle ear detected the xm8500 almost instantly in comparison with the 421. On my voice, at least. When I recorded one of our awesome female voice talents on both (god i love her for putting up with my silliness) he not only couldn't tell which was which, neither could I. Well. That was interesting. Don't know if I've said it before, but I'm really enjoying your content. I have, for a long time, been a booth-junkie and bandrew kind of guy only. But now there are three. May the YT algorithm gods smile on your channel.
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 2 жыл бұрын
Lol...thanks for that! Glad to have ya!
@vishaldond3879
@vishaldond3879 2 жыл бұрын
Please compare E835 and SM58 mics
@Thestripper1
@Thestripper1 Ай бұрын
5:27 yes! of course you should! Did you ever do it? Have you done it? Are you gonna do it? Do it!
@mattcero1
@mattcero1 Жыл бұрын
I've got the 8500 and enjoy it immensely. I think the SM58 has a slight edge over it though.
@coldhardtruth333
@coldhardtruth333 6 ай бұрын
Which is better ?
@djcoolcliff
@djcoolcliff Жыл бұрын
Yo I brought this mic several years ago when the cost 9 bucks! I got 30 of them!! They now go for 35 which is still a good price!!!!
@fatfingertv
@fatfingertv 2 жыл бұрын
Good afternoon sir, i wanted to know what nice affordable mic to use to mic up an amp. Thanks!
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 2 жыл бұрын
What do you consider affordable?
@fatfingertv
@fatfingertv 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarkCornerStudios 30 to 70 euros sir.
@samnicholson5051
@samnicholson5051 3 жыл бұрын
Have both the e835 and the XM8500. I Find the xm8500 sounds okay at 5-6 inches away, but at a couple of inches distance, it just sounds way too muddy, muffled, harsh and accentuates my saliva in a nasty way. The e835 in contrast stills sound good up close, it's smooth but tight in the right places. Like most other lower cost dynamics it has its share of graininess and a distinct sizzly silibance, although a more softer whispery sounding silibance as opposed to the sharp white noise bursts you can get on other mics. People pay big money for gear that can flatter and forgive.
@harleyrider9166
@harleyrider9166 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a user correction then. People use the mic in the best suitable position to the singer. There is no standard for how close you need to be to the mic. If that were the case Michael McDonald would have disqualified from singing long ago🤣🤣
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 2 жыл бұрын
Most mics come with a recommended range... Honestly for spoken word... Singers do what they want...but with proximity effect...it can have wild swings in the interpretation of the voice
@samnicholson5051
@samnicholson5051 2 жыл бұрын
@@harleyrider9166 True, and in turn the 835 sounds very thin at further distances, but for critical situations where stage bleed or poor room acoustics need to be minimised I think it's better to have a cardioid dynamic you can eat. That or a hypercardioid, which may allow more wiggle room.
@Eapepe
@Eapepe Жыл бұрын
No is better of sm58, and the sm48 sound is very nice,im apreciating best frecuences, ¿testing samson q7? hi from Argentina.
@knight-bf2hr
@knight-bf2hr 2 жыл бұрын
It's not "versus video" .. I think we have to compare "price to price", XM 8500 is cheap but has great quality For common people.. Moving microphone test to check the noise.. It's enough to make its class
@scottmcdowall4230
@scottmcdowall4230 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't really hear too much difference Between all the Mics Until the E 835..
@robfriedrich2822
@robfriedrich2822 5 ай бұрын
In between. I buy the Beta 58 clone from Thomann in house brand.
@BakeerukumarKavi-pt7mp
@BakeerukumarKavi-pt7mp 5 ай бұрын
Xm8500 moc bass voice or sharp voce tell me
@b-ill2195
@b-ill2195 2 жыл бұрын
I just ordered a xm8500 I currently have a ev ND86 and a Shure sm48 both decent Mic's so I am going to get this one just to have an extra and for 20$ why Not
@ntonyworkshop
@ntonyworkshop Жыл бұрын
I have the XM8500 for maybe 2 years or more. It's great. But I do agree that SM58 obviously stands out, according to the sound from this video. But SM48 isn't appealing. I would choose XM8500 among SM48, XM8500, e835. e835 shouldn't be on league among SM58 and SM48. Forgetting about the price tag, I think people should perform a blind test and see. Unless this video has flawed on the recording. Which I don't think so. Otherwise, the result is extremely obvious. I wouldn't hesitate for a second to rank my likelihood among these 4 microphones. By the way, I'm not a professional. This is the perspective from a layman with fine ears.
@jimfun71
@jimfun71 Жыл бұрын
For $30.00 I like the BEHRINGER but if were just comparing mics I'll take the SENNHEISER any day, every day. They are my go to for every stage setup I do. Have been for 20 years. I have tried SHURES and they are just so flat and lifeless. The mids just mud everything. SHURE was the choice of Snoopy's teacher.
@Phantommxr
@Phantommxr Жыл бұрын
XM8500 is great for micing up a guitar cab
@carter_dj
@carter_dj 2 жыл бұрын
for vocals, the xm8500 sounds much better than the sm48 in my opinion, and almost ties the sm58 but the sm58 seems to pick up on more of your voice and seems more "real" - considering that its only 20 bucks tho, I'd pick the xm8500 for vocals over both. However, that e835 tho is super clear - I might consider upgrading to it later. I can see why some people put it above the sm58
@azariah4001
@azariah4001 3 жыл бұрын
Hi great video do you think if I bought the shure sm58 I would need a preamp I’m a singer
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 3 жыл бұрын
No...generally not. What is your interface?
@azariah4001
@azariah4001 3 жыл бұрын
@@DarkCornerStudios well I don’t have my equipment yet but i was thinking of getting the Behringer U-Phoria UM2 USB Audio Interface
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 3 жыл бұрын
@@azariah4001 You shouldnt have a problem. Just boost the signal up in post...
@azariah4001
@azariah4001 3 жыл бұрын
@@DarkCornerStudios okay thanks so much one more question lol you just seem so educated about this topic so Honestly I’m not sure if I want the sm58 yet but my price range is 1-99 and I’m looking for a mic that doesn’t pick up a lot of background noise I’m a singer and also I’m currently the using the blue yeti but it’s isn’t doing it for me
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 3 жыл бұрын
@@azariah4001 yeah...dynamic is the way to go. I like either the sm58 or the Sennheiser e835. Both will do well...the e835 has a bit more presence and requires less gain
@kevinisaacs6930
@kevinisaacs6930 2 жыл бұрын
I love the sm 58
@ChrisOh
@ChrisOh 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t like SM48 for your voice. XM8500 sounded better for your voice.
@vincentiustimothy9344
@vincentiustimothy9344 2 күн бұрын
04:27 Behringer XM8500 vs Shure SM58
@itzjustkris7964
@itzjustkris7964 2 жыл бұрын
the xm8500 sounds wayyyyyyy better imo and looks better
@thiagocursinomusic
@thiagocursinomusic Жыл бұрын
I liked the senheiser more.
@dant.6364
@dant.6364 3 жыл бұрын
I can't tell much difference between any of them even with me wearing my Senal smh-1000 headphones. Am I missing something or maybe I'm tone deaf lol or perhaps just old.
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 3 жыл бұрын
Good question. Try speakers...perhaps the headphones are losing a bit of their zest. Honestly the e835 vs the XM8500 was about as night and day as it gets...
@dant.6364
@dant.6364 3 жыл бұрын
@@DarkCornerStudios Thanks, maybe it is faulty headphones. I'll try listening through an Apple Homepod (even though those are hardly reference speakers)
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 3 жыл бұрын
@@dant.6364 now I'm curious...let me know
@sec21
@sec21 3 жыл бұрын
A cool/weird/interesting way to compare two mics is to plug them both in, get them the same distance from your mouth, record a short sample and then loop a very short section of it, so you could say the world "test" and then loop the "eeeeeeeeeeeeeee", and then switch between them in the daw. It makes the differences very very noticeable. It exaggerates them a lot, but it's kinda interesting anyway.
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 3 жыл бұрын
@@sec21 At the risk of annoying people with me screaming "eeeeeeeeeeeeee"...I think I am going to try that. Any email I can direct all the complaints to? lol... Cheers...it is a good idea...I will give it a shot
@charlesg5085
@charlesg5085 Жыл бұрын
The 8500 is the better of the two
@RobCmusic
@RobCmusic Жыл бұрын
I play live a lot. I've had my XM8500 for about 10 years. It just sounds better with my voice than the Shure and the price just makes it even better. I'm also a sound engineer as well as a singing musician and I have to say that the Sennheiser is one of the worst sounding stage mics to my ears. Just horrible. I've never heard a gig situation where it was the best fit for the job on any singer. All my own opinion and experience of course.
@crosswhite17
@crosswhite17 10 ай бұрын
Listening on my phone through headphones, I cannot tell any real difference in any of the mics.
@igg5589
@igg5589 2 жыл бұрын
In this video they (XM58000 vs SM58) sound absolutely the same, even via headphones :/ 4:48
@Epicdude012
@Epicdude012 10 ай бұрын
sennheiser e835 for me
@user-yi5yd1yj3y
@user-yi5yd1yj3y 3 ай бұрын
What is wrong with you people? SM58 is a sheitmic. THe SM58 was myh first Mic, I used it for a couple of months, then I bought an AKG. YOuj have to be very desperate or deef to use SM 58.
@FredPilcher
@FredPilcher Жыл бұрын
For the price it's acceptable.
@johnhefter3815
@johnhefter3815 Жыл бұрын
Concept was good. Jumping all over the place was not appreciated.
@jacksimanjuntak9235
@jacksimanjuntak9235 2 жыл бұрын
Sennheiser E835 is much better, but for the price XM8500 is the best
@renzoplays9332
@renzoplays9332 3 жыл бұрын
Just purchased the xm8500 for £10 pounds on amazon
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 3 жыл бұрын
That is one hell of a deal!! Good job!
@renzoplays9332
@renzoplays9332 3 жыл бұрын
@@DarkCornerStudios is this mic good for gigs?
@DarkCornerStudios
@DarkCornerStudios 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah...it should do you just fine on stage. Just know the handling noise is a bit worse than the sm58...so keep that in mind
@WellingthonCristiano
@WellingthonCristiano Жыл бұрын
I think this is the unique (but really tested and documented ) "bad" opinion of xm8500. I don't wanna buy one...
@umbertoaguiar
@umbertoaguiar Жыл бұрын
I am sorry to say but I didn't like the review . Maybe you haven't noticed but it seems clear that you were not going to like the XM8500 no matter what. It is supposed to be a comparison but you tested the off axis rejection, the plosive factor, and the handling noise of the XM8500 but you didn't do the same tests for the Shure microphone ! It makes for a rather incomplete comparison. P.S. Another review suggests that the sensitivity of the XM8500 is actually around -50. Behriinger say -70 because, apparently, they used an older measurement system.
@gillihansmobilewelding6318
@gillihansmobilewelding6318 Ай бұрын
The 58 I better though.
@Mawson6492
@Mawson6492 6 ай бұрын
e835
@Old_SnakeTwitch
@Old_SnakeTwitch Жыл бұрын
sm58 > xm8500 > e835/sm48 > xm1800s
@runorrunor5957
@runorrunor5957 4 ай бұрын
Don't believe everything what's written. xm8500 is not near close to -70db. In fact, its sensitivity even higher than sm58's. Somewhere around -54db Didn't you notice it looking at gain while recording this video?
@runorrunor5957
@runorrunor5957 4 ай бұрын
sm58 all day long
@magremaro42
@magremaro42 Жыл бұрын
i think its a point of perspective. Are you a punkband and wanna make music? XM8500! Are you like me with a tiny budget and already bought much stuff for your studio incl. the room treatment... buy XM8500! When the price is irrelevant and you dont have to look on the price tag so 100% SM58 As written its always depends on your goals i am not a pro and only want to practice better as a musician and improve my playstyle and singing... XM8500 So i think Look what your actual goals are, and honestly when you have a untreated room it is regardless if you would buy the XM8500 or the SM58. They both would be sounding terrible XD And BTW when you wanna have fun as a DJ or make a Karaoke party the XM8500 will notdestroy your wallet XD
@teddybaker7231
@teddybaker7231 4 күн бұрын
Good singer sounds good with a wide range of mics, I’m listening on 400 dollar phones, there’s not much in it, not much that will make a difference in a bar full of drunks.
@mikepimento
@mikepimento Жыл бұрын
Sm58 sin duda. Pero si no tienes tanto dinero, el behringer es una excelente opción.
@MarcFonda
@MarcFonda Жыл бұрын
Yet, why recording when all these mics are designed for live performance?
@haydenwayne637
@haydenwayne637 5 ай бұрын
The SM in SM57/58 stands for studio microphone. They were originally designed for studio use but were found to be near perfect for live use. At least according to what I have read about them over the years.
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