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Best Irons of 2019 | Players Cavity Back

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@thechaa3176
@thechaa3176 5 жыл бұрын
Ian is the gold standard for all fitters. This is THE best channel by FAR for golf nerds. The content that you guys put out is the most complete, thorough and exhaustive on KZbin. If there was an award for Best Golf Channel for 2019.. it should go to you boys. Merry Xmas !!
@allant.9152
@allant.9152 5 жыл бұрын
I've got the Srixons, main selling point for me was because I play at both a windy, hard links and a softer inland course. The Srixon cut sole means turf interaction is so much better off both surfaces, they don't bounce or dig! They don't balloon into the wind and are very easy to hit knock downs. But the biggest plus is repetitive distance, I've never been pin high as often (but that may be down more to modern tech - knowing exact distances to flag (laser/gps) and knowing the distances/gapping for each club trackman/flightscope)!
@willemkilian6002
@willemkilian6002 5 жыл бұрын
After watching you guys review the P790's, I am happy to report that I recieved them today after getting fitted. Thicker grips, taller shafts and change in the lie angle. Awesome shafts! Thank you guys for opening this new world up to me. I would definately recommend fitting and your channel for all new club buyers. Yes it was an investment, but my new irons will also last me for the next 10 years like my Taylormade R7's did! Well done guys!
@ianfrasergolf
@ianfrasergolf 5 жыл бұрын
Willem Kilian great to hear Willem!! I’m sure the investment will pay off for you over the coming years!!
@willemkilian6002
@willemkilian6002 5 жыл бұрын
@@ianfrasergolf thanks sir!
@mangelarsson7774
@mangelarsson7774 5 жыл бұрын
This launch monitor training has really made Matt extremely consistent. Great skill to have! well done boys!
@uwrossl
@uwrossl 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you kept the Srixon's in. Absolutely phenomenal iron. You nailed it with flattening out the flight and slight spin reduction. Exactly why I ended up in them from my fitting. Still hoping to see you test the Z Forged!
@bryceboring2615
@bryceboring2615 5 жыл бұрын
This is a Godsend going into my fitting this weekend! Ever since y’all started this series I was hoping you’d roll this video out in time.
@Knickerson
@Knickerson 5 жыл бұрын
What are you leaning toward?
@bryceboring2615
@bryceboring2615 5 жыл бұрын
@@Knickerson I'd say Mizuno at the moment. Funny enough, I didn't even know they made anything other than baseball equipment before finding this channel a few months ago.
@Knickerson
@Knickerson 5 жыл бұрын
Bryce Boring - good luck with the fitting. :)
@7UpYours1234
@7UpYours1234 5 жыл бұрын
Just fitted for 9i - 5i in the Srixon 785s. Waiting for the build and delivery.
@drew20238
@drew20238 5 жыл бұрын
Ian fit me into the T100's as well and I love them! Great looks, especially the top line and retain excellent speed and spin. Thanks guys!
@Richsgbox
@Richsgbox 5 жыл бұрын
All outstanding performers. Not sure if it could get any better than T100. Ill be looking to replace my MP18 soon. Thanks for the analysis.
@JeremyLevis
@JeremyLevis 5 жыл бұрын
Love to see HMB's compared to it's rivals. Good stuff guys.
@Inkskey
@Inkskey 5 жыл бұрын
Still absolutely loving this channel guys, I was able to test out drivers and was finally able to digest launch monitor numbers to make the right choice myself thanks to the content you provide!!!!! Would love to see a ball catagory in this format as I still cant choose a ball to stick with. Keep up the great work guys, Merry Christmas!!!!!
@ianfrasergolf
@ianfrasergolf 5 жыл бұрын
We’ll certainly do that Ian. Merry Christmas to you too!!
@blakeg.1093
@blakeg.1093 5 жыл бұрын
I'm currently playing the Apex Pro and love them. Hard to believe the T100 looks better, but I'll take your word for it!
@kylesinclair203
@kylesinclair203 5 жыл бұрын
I play to a 6. I live by one rule I read long ago.... play the most forgiving iron you can stand to look at! 😉 It pays dividends on those C- swing days.... Currently game the PXG 0211’s (military discount)
@jballoregon
@jballoregon 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing work that you two continue to do here. Exactly the kind of data the good golfers need.
@mylesberg5731
@mylesberg5731 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Concise, thorough, unbiased and informative. Thanks!
@rdickens1
@rdickens1 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Another wonderful comparison, but please tell us how Matt hits it so consistently!!!
@steinfonell4915
@steinfonell4915 5 жыл бұрын
Iron Byron delivers as always. My goodness...
@mazzerattimike8695
@mazzerattimike8695 5 жыл бұрын
I'm gaming ten year old Cleveland 588cb irons......and I love them. Would like to see you guys gather and test a bunch of irons from around that era.
@stephencarroll5346
@stephencarroll5346 5 жыл бұрын
Mizuno 🙌 just got a set they are superb. I’ll take consistency all day and that top line is smaller than my old ap2 plus little to no offset. Great iron i would pick it outta that 5 everytime. Gotta look great and feel great 👍
@jacobmccain8082
@jacobmccain8082 5 жыл бұрын
Currently playing Z785/Z-Forged combo set. Tried to go to Mizuno 919T couple months ago and they didn't last a week. The turf interaction with these are just hard to beat.
@stanthomas9890
@stanthomas9890 5 жыл бұрын
In conclusion............they are all pretty damn good!
@ianfrasergolf
@ianfrasergolf 5 жыл бұрын
Stan Thomas amen!!
@ryang1910
@ryang1910 5 жыл бұрын
I play srixon. I loved the p760 and but didn’t have a great combo option. I wanted to love the 919 feel but I didn’t like the feel. Srixon gave me extra distance which I needed and the best option of a combo set.
@ianfrasergolf
@ianfrasergolf 5 жыл бұрын
ryan g great irons!!
@freddiefrazier5751
@freddiefrazier5751 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I love that you had all lofts/lies equal. Great Video.
@richardsdiaz1
@richardsdiaz1 5 жыл бұрын
OK! I've watched it, rewound it, took a snapshot of the results and listened to your conclusions! First thoughts: I am amazed at how close these are all when their lofts and lies are normalized! My further thoughts, If they are all so close, I'd want to go with looks, feel and sound. For me there was a clear winner. Because I am looking for an "all around" club for me it's the T100. If I was looking for the best distance club in this category, which I'm not, I'd probably go with the Callaway or the Srixon (at their stock lofts). Thanks for doing this guys! It was really eye opening!
@christressler2178
@christressler2178 4 жыл бұрын
Love these videos. You guys are great for all of us golf geeks.
@zacharymilos392
@zacharymilos392 5 жыл бұрын
You guys nailed this test, 10/10.
@sievans79
@sievans79 5 жыл бұрын
I've played 150+ rounds with my 919 Forged and love them. Playing off 12 the larger head size is confidence inspiring, obviously not something Matt needs with 6 iron in hand. Only disappointment with them is heads show a fair bit of wear and tear with being 1025e, good excuse to change them next year. 😂
@brandoncjgrimes
@brandoncjgrimes 5 жыл бұрын
Great content guys! does the T100 have the same amount of tungsten than the 718 AP2? Wondering if "forgiveness" is the same
@robcouch81
@robcouch81 5 жыл бұрын
Brandon Grimes I’d also like to know because you can get ap2 at a great price right now
@CoryLancasterYT
@CoryLancasterYT 5 жыл бұрын
How would forgiveness between the Mizzy 919F and the new HMBs compare? Great roundup!
@geoffc15
@geoffc15 5 жыл бұрын
Bummed not to see the X Forged included. I know it was a 2018 release but is still current and I would have assumed it would have been a top performer this year.
@hbyrdut
@hbyrdut 5 жыл бұрын
Which is more forgiving, the 919 Forged or the MP 18 MMC?
@brandoncjgrimes
@brandoncjgrimes 5 жыл бұрын
i think on mizuno europe site they have a forgiveness chart that shows the Forged being a bit more forgiving....from what I can remember.
@hbyrdut
@hbyrdut 5 жыл бұрын
@@brandoncjgrimes Thanks. I'll see if I can find that.
@brandoncjgrimes
@brandoncjgrimes 5 жыл бұрын
hbyrdut www.golfworks.com/images/art/MPF_MIZUNO.pdf here’s an old one. It’s called MPF... Malty playability factor. The higher the MPF... the more forgiving basically... example a blade is like in the 200s and the hot metal is in the 700s I think. I bet there’s an updated list for mp20 line somewhere
@stephendibari5010
@stephendibari5010 4 жыл бұрын
Great comparison! Would have liked to seen Ping i210’s in this mix too. I’ll be going for a custom fit next spring and the 2 irons I’ll be looking to compare will be the i210’s and the Titleist T-100’s.
@TheMuffs2004
@TheMuffs2004 5 жыл бұрын
After using blades for years my next set will probably be a players cavity back. Just because of the 2-5 irons. Don’t get to play and practice enough to always be on point with those so I’ll probably get a utility for the 2 and/or 3 and go with a small cavity the rest of the way down. Mixed set is a possibility as well but I’ll just have to see how they suit my eye.
@jaredm109
@jaredm109 5 жыл бұрын
Hollow/players distance iron category incoming? I hope so!
@mh_golfer
@mh_golfer 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting results, definitely makes me want to check out the Srixon as I hit the ball a bit too high and have a bit too much spin in my opinion.
@Oswood1010
@Oswood1010 5 жыл бұрын
Love your channel/podcast. One of the best out there! As a beginner i would appreciate a Review on beginner/game improvement irons with an actual beginner. All the reviews out there are from very good players which of course is less informativ as if it would be "one of us" ;) keep up the great work. Much appreciated! Cheers from Austria
@michaelglassockcoaching
@michaelglassockcoaching 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, would love one targeted at the mid to high handicapper 👍🏾
@stevetroiano9902
@stevetroiano9902 5 жыл бұрын
Would you guys consider a similar review that would feature clubs for the next level of handicap, such as 8-16. Possible entries: Srixon Z585, Callaway Apex 19, TaylorMade P790, etc. 2nd Swing just did this but I’d like to see your take. Great reviews guys.
@robp.7769
@robp.7769 4 жыл бұрын
PING I210? I get the sense it rarely wins out in fittings because it's higher spin, not particularly aimed at distance, and certainly a larger profile than something like the T100. But for consistency/distance control in relation to forgiveness, I think you'd be hard pressed to find anything else on the list that can beat it. Not flashy but they get the job done.
@parnopsiripornpak5632
@parnopsiripornpak5632 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loving my MP18 MMC right now but thinking of trying out JPX900 TOUR. I'm not a big fan on the newest models, worth buying the previous model when its cheaper. So I will consider this video again next year. LOL. Great video guys.
@MrMacJD
@MrMacJD 5 жыл бұрын
Good stuff gents. Curious if any of those tested have a similar sole profile to the Srixons (v sole)? I game Miura MB-001 and they also have some leading-edge relief that helps get through the turf if you get a lil steep on it. Like what the T100 offer in this with more spin and more height but likely would want to continue with a sole that offers that kind of turf interaction. Any thoughts appreciated.
@ianfrasergolf
@ianfrasergolf 5 жыл бұрын
MrMacJD P760 has the best sole design for turf interaction.
@Scott_Bishell
@Scott_Bishell 5 жыл бұрын
Would have thought that the mizuno 919 tour would have been a better fit in that category? I did a mizuno fitting, im 18 hcp, and the 919 forged was the best for me. Very forgiving. I'd say more forgiving than titleist t200 (which i was also fitted to), but without the heat/speed. In saying that, i loved the 919 forged so great to see it included in a good comparison.
@coreyceleste4323
@coreyceleste4323 5 жыл бұрын
The trees are a nice touch 😉
@Sonnycheese
@Sonnycheese 5 жыл бұрын
that galv green top is so nice!
@justinstephenson9360
@justinstephenson9360 5 жыл бұрын
When I changed my irons this summer I tried some of these. Oddly the P760s were really disappointing, possibly because I was expecting too much from them, the feel/sound was just not there for me (but I really liked the feel of the P790s). JPX919 Forged was lovely but the head was a little to long from heel to toe for my eye - but the 919 Tours were stunning and so easy to hit but I need a bit more help in the 5i & 6i. I have since tried the MP20-MMCs and they are stunning. I remember trying the previous model, MP18-MMC which I really struggled to control a draw with, the MP20s had no such issues and to my looked better than the previous model. For completeness I actually bought i210s - great look, really nice spin rates, and I am comfortable with the feel
@satisfyingbuzz332
@satisfyingbuzz332 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your vids.. Keep up the good work.
@tableshaper4076
@tableshaper4076 5 жыл бұрын
Good job guys... I'm down to the 785 or PTX PRO, need to control some height issues. I was a little thrown back this week when I learned Shane Lowry uses a mix of 785 and 585 which is why the PTX PRO popped back into consideration for forgiveness.
@jacobmccain8082
@jacobmccain8082 5 жыл бұрын
I find the 785s pretty darn easy to hit. The 585s are ridiculously easy to hit and dont look a lot different from the 785. If there is one dig on the Srixon line they are a bit lower spinning than most players irons. But if you have a medium/steep swing there isnt much out there better.
@harriszg
@harriszg 5 жыл бұрын
My day in day out golf buddy plays the BHpros and loves them. Being lefty I cant hit them but they sound and look amazing. For the dollar and shaft combos its hard to beat.
@tableshaper4076
@tableshaper4076 5 жыл бұрын
@@jacobmccain8082 Do you play with a full set of 785s, I was really shocked with Lowry playing 585s, not that I have a problem mixing clubs but I'm 6'6" tall so I can't just try clubs I have to buy them fit to me and hope for the best. I was set on the 785 till I saw the WITB with Lowry, now I'm shaky.
@tableshaper4076
@tableshaper4076 5 жыл бұрын
@@harriszg They were my pick till I contacted them... I'm in Canada and they won't ship the trial clubs here. Not to mention I'm 6'6" tall and although they can bend the clubs 4 degrees they won't go past 3 degrees and they even designed the woods and hybrids to be bent but the mold is too worn so they won't bend them anymore. I find their service to be terrible. Which is why I was now leaning to the Srixon.
@jacobmccain8082
@jacobmccain8082 5 жыл бұрын
@@tableshaper4076 I played with a full set (5-PW) all of this past year. Recently replaced the 8-9-PW with Z Forged but still have my 785s. I added about 6-8 yards and my handicap dropped from 12 down to 4.2 in that year. Buttery feel and a bit more forgiving than the 919 Tours I demo'd.
@xxpatssoxfanxx
@xxpatssoxfanxx 5 жыл бұрын
Why mizuno 919 forged? Why not mp-20 mmc
@mcmacdaddy3460
@mcmacdaddy3460 5 жыл бұрын
because it doesn't come in left-handed
@ianfrasergolf
@ianfrasergolf 5 жыл бұрын
McMacDaddy 👏🏻
@ianfrasergolf
@ianfrasergolf 5 жыл бұрын
Its Us 🤣🤣🤣
@johnk3024
@johnk3024 5 жыл бұрын
I know a lot of players irons golfers tend to go against offset in the irons - but I was wondering if you knew of any that had a good amount but aren’t in the game improvement category? I grew up playing with the 981 DCIs and keep going back to them despite all the tech out there.
@mattparsons946
@mattparsons946 5 жыл бұрын
Oh baby, excited for this
@MikeDoba
@MikeDoba 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man, I'd take any one of them.. but I would have to test vs the MP20 cause those are sexy beasts
@brentjewell9641
@brentjewell9641 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent guys!! Nice job being subjective
@OpaKnows
@OpaKnows 4 жыл бұрын
Not a huge PING iron fan, but it would have been interesting to see how their offering in this class would have faired.
@davido5496
@davido5496 5 жыл бұрын
Why was the Mizuno Forged in this and not the Mizuno Tours? Isn't the Mizuno Forged a Players Distance mix head? For instance, the T100 and Tour are surely a lot more comparable?
@deannamcandrew2562
@deannamcandrew2562 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Ian - you guys are great. Currently play the 716 AP2 but thinking about moving to the 919 Tours. At the range, couldn't tell much of a difference. Any opinion on forgiveness (and if it really even matters)? Thank you!
@joeyjoejoeshabadoo
@joeyjoejoeshabadoo 5 жыл бұрын
surprised that looks and feel were bundled together into the one category. Surely they're 2 seperate buying criteria.
@maccarossi
@maccarossi 4 жыл бұрын
I'm an 18 handicap and was fit into the Mizuno 919 Forged's with PX 6.5 shafts, I fit what Matt accurately described as a good ball striker but rubbish with the putter, really need to work on that........
@JamesThompson-zl2sk
@JamesThompson-zl2sk 5 жыл бұрын
Another good video I was recommended srixon because I tend to flick at the ball and cause a high ball flight nice to have it confirmed off somebody I respect in fitting Went for combo set which I think srixon do a great job of.also price really good.
@frmacleod
@frmacleod 5 жыл бұрын
Do you guys have any recommendations for who I could use a a fitter in Vancouver?
@insufficientfunds5603
@insufficientfunds5603 5 жыл бұрын
Playing with mizuno mp 52. Found them at goodwill for around $25 for the set. Not quite ready for them but its all I got. Would love to be able to afford any of these! Best feel from what I was able to demo would be the callaway apex irons
@paulbrown313
@paulbrown313 5 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with MP52s bud, really nice bats.
@insufficientfunds5603
@insufficientfunds5603 5 жыл бұрын
@@paulbrown313 not saying there is. I just know they arent right for me personally. Also missing the 6 but there was a mizuno mx100 6 iron that came with it at goodwill. Great find for goodwill really.
@insufficientfunds5603
@insufficientfunds5603 5 жыл бұрын
@@paulbrown313 I was using 1st gen tm rbz irons but I broke the shafts on the 4 and 6 irons so I have to use the mizunos
@ryansones1626
@ryansones1626 5 жыл бұрын
Some of you reflective markers on horizontal center for the Quad, look a groove/score line low according to recommended placement... do you think that matters?
@plus2golfer12
@plus2golfer12 5 жыл бұрын
I've got the jpx900 tours and wondering if I should upgrade to the mp20 or mp20 mmc
@ianfrasergolf
@ianfrasergolf 5 жыл бұрын
Plus2 Golfer I’m a huge fan of the MP20 MMC, great profile and so forgiving.
@plus2golfer12
@plus2golfer12 5 жыл бұрын
@@ianfrasergolf I looked at them the other day and a shop and omg it was like my wife just walked in the room naked.. My heart was pattering lol...I like my jpx's but top line doesn't suit my eye perfectly and I've always been a lover of the mp line... May have to pull the trigger after Christmas
@plus2golfer12
@plus2golfer12 5 жыл бұрын
@@ianfrasergolf I really need to figure out what driver replaces my 2017 m1...I just got my dad a g410 plus and he's going to give me his m3 head but I'm thinking I may go g410lst or speedzone tour model
@mikerausch50
@mikerausch50 4 жыл бұрын
How on earth are you only getting 1 yard of roll out displayed with 5200 at 15 launch on foresight? Landing angles looked around 48/49?
@ignorance123
@ignorance123 5 жыл бұрын
Wow...would not have figured P760 your top seller in this category
@ianfrasergolf
@ianfrasergolf 5 жыл бұрын
Mike really great iron.
@mrfirewood6215
@mrfirewood6215 5 жыл бұрын
Would the srixon be better if you added 2 degrees of loft, for spin and ball flight?
@TheVirusOfHumanity
@TheVirusOfHumanity 5 жыл бұрын
Why is Matt the machine not on some tour? Seriously though. I desperately want that short powerful swing.
@todpharis4996
@todpharis4996 5 жыл бұрын
Love the channel. I run the Apex pro currently but mine must be broke because The 6 iron does not go 210🤔🤔🤔. Unless I hit the cart path!
@kourt2469
@kourt2469 5 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a test on iron blade length. Listening to a golf podcast with ping engineers they mentioned good players can “work” a blade better than a cavity iron mainly because the blade length is shorter not because of the tech. So essentially a shorter blade length is easier to control face delivery. I’d like to see Matt test a short blade length and the longest out there and see if it’s true or not.
@jeremyrepp6544
@jeremyrepp6544 5 жыл бұрын
More good content. I recently put the Apex Pros into the bag, because they have that "players cavity" size/shape I prefer, but are really very good on my typical miss, which is towards the toe.
@jacobmahoney6764
@jacobmahoney6764 5 жыл бұрын
Even though the Ping iBlade is considered a blade, I think it almost falls into this category as well? Would you guys agree with that?
@angelounelli2515
@angelounelli2515 4 жыл бұрын
I know you did this some time ago. Do you expect to get the zx7/5 soon to review?
@danielwinterbottom5531
@danielwinterbottom5531 5 жыл бұрын
I would like to think this would be my category for me. I currently have cf 16 but less jumping. I play off 18 but improving would like playability with forgiveness
@colinschrank5576
@colinschrank5576 5 жыл бұрын
Love it as I have the Mizuno 919 Forged. And yes for forgiveness with all my off centered hits. Looking for a Putter boys so I would love see that one!
@mangelarsson7774
@mangelarsson7774 5 жыл бұрын
Mizuno makes great players irons. Ive used the Mizuno 825 pro, which is a predecessor to your club, and it really has everything you can ask for.
@johnandrews1959
@johnandrews1959 5 жыл бұрын
Matty is a robot demigod. Does he ever miss or ever hit a bad shot. Please do more course vlogs. Come over to the uk and challenge rick shiels and peter finch. Would sell more tickets than tiger vs Phil for sure.
@richardsdiaz1
@richardsdiaz1 5 жыл бұрын
I was really looking forward to this one.! So much so that I am commenting without even watching it yet! I'll add more to this once I've actually watched it! :0)
@ianfrasergolf
@ianfrasergolf 5 жыл бұрын
Lefty SoCal Golfer 😂😂
@LostArkitekt
@LostArkitekt 5 жыл бұрын
Are you putting the Hogan PTx Pro in the Game Improvement irons?
@lhk1951
@lhk1951 5 жыл бұрын
great session. all in all, top flight performance across the whole group. Matt hit all of them really well. i play ping i210 irons but based on this i might take a look at the 919 forged. look forward to other 2019 tests. keep it up guys-- love your stuff.
@darylhickman7793
@darylhickman7793 5 жыл бұрын
Good test, proving that they are basically all the same, performing at the limits the regulations allow!
@whiskerrub
@whiskerrub 5 жыл бұрын
I just watched this entire video with so much indifference to any of the manufacturers, or getting all gaga over how one club looks compared to another... what have you done TXG, you’ve crushed my bling approach to buying golf clubs. I don’t know if I should get fit at TXG or enter a recovery program for Golfer Agnostic, I fear missing out on the first clubs to come out with RGB lighting controlled from your iPhone. 👍 TXG Openhouse this Saturday followed by TXG Saturday Night Live can’t wait!
@banditbaker1675
@banditbaker1675 5 жыл бұрын
I Booked into the UK Golfers Anonymous (I can't spell Agnostic) branch yesterday,....guess what they give out complimentary TXG Bucket hats when you check-in and their toilet paper has the face of Mark Crossfield on it.! I would have stayed for longer but evidently, I am being elected as Prime Minister tomorrow....What can I say "My Country needs me"!
@whiskerrub
@whiskerrub 5 жыл бұрын
Bandit Baker LOL I will remember at Saturday’s live to acknowledge your new title. 😂👍
@banditbaker1675
@banditbaker1675 5 жыл бұрын
@@whiskerrub I hope to be there, but I may be with Her Majesty getting sworn in (or whatever they call it) so please pass on my apologies if I am otherwise engaged, or maybe locked in the Tower of London for swearing at the Queen. "Off with his head"! LOL
@DanielRodrigues-hn8cx
@DanielRodrigues-hn8cx 5 жыл бұрын
good video as usual boys. T100 for me in the looks as well, but I have been accused of being a titleist fanboy!
@LukeChristo
@LukeChristo 5 жыл бұрын
I was expecting the the JPX 919 Tours in this, why were the forged chosen instead?
@austinlauer1910
@austinlauer1910 5 жыл бұрын
I would say the tours are more in kind of a blade category rather than cavity back. In my opinion.
@PatziW
@PatziW 5 жыл бұрын
What about shot shaping, are these all equally capable?
@claytonjohnston25
@claytonjohnston25 5 жыл бұрын
I’m that ropy short game guy! 2-3 putt average!
@thegingerstig7387
@thegingerstig7387 5 жыл бұрын
Ping i210?
@ianfrasergolf
@ianfrasergolf 5 жыл бұрын
K T not one of our top performers
@thegingerstig7387
@thegingerstig7387 5 жыл бұрын
@@ianfrasergolf mizuno forged or hot metal pro. Hcp 12. Just watched linseys video on hot pros and after the same good looks no offset, but added dist nice.
@Warrenar117
@Warrenar117 5 жыл бұрын
Currently a 15 handicap and use 718 AP2. I go to the range 2-3 times a week... but haven’t spent more than 20 minutes on the practice green all year. I think I fall into category of good ball striker whom 2-3 putts the majority of his birdie/par attempts away. It’s just not fun for me to practice putting!
@mangelarsson7774
@mangelarsson7774 5 жыл бұрын
I think you couldve added the Ping i210 in this category (no, Im not one of those: "why the hell didnt you???"....just saying) since a bunch of the Ping staffers use it, and I suspect it would win the consistency category, at least a very strong contender to the Mizuno. So solid, but of course, thats just my 2 cents.
@ianfrasergolf
@ianfrasergolf 5 жыл бұрын
Mange Larsson wasn’t one of our more popular irons in the store in 2019.
@mangelarsson7774
@mangelarsson7774 5 жыл бұрын
@@ianfrasergolf ok, so you went by sales in the store. Totally respect that. The i210 is kind of an oddball, not a classic looking club, but guess thats the way Ping has always been designing clubs, although I think they stepped up the design the last couple of years.
@nickphillips2099
@nickphillips2099 5 жыл бұрын
How did you get the same distance with the 919 Forged? Those irons are stronger than the others.
@clubchampionmedia
@clubchampionmedia 5 жыл бұрын
we put them all to the same loft for our test
@nickphillips2099
@nickphillips2099 5 жыл бұрын
@@clubchampionmedia gotcha
@jadamane
@jadamane 5 жыл бұрын
Which irons of 2018 and 2019 produces the straightest flight ?
@mrainero
@mrainero 5 жыл бұрын
I think the most overlooked irons are blades. They aren't hard to hit and feel so much better than the p760's. I play the MP-18 blades and they have unbelievable feel compared to coming from the p760's.
@멘탈리티-y5x
@멘탈리티-y5x 5 жыл бұрын
How about long iron? I think that forgiveness of p760 is better than others.
@brandonlabrie162
@brandonlabrie162 5 жыл бұрын
Why did you use the 919 and not the mp18 sc? Seems like that belongs with the others
@ianfrasergolf
@ianfrasergolf 5 жыл бұрын
Brandon LaBrie we no longer have the MP18’s in store since they were replaced by MP20’s.
@brandonlabrie162
@brandonlabrie162 5 жыл бұрын
Ian Fraser and the mp20 hasn’t been out long enough I’m assuming? Plus the mp line doesn’t have many lefty options
@stickittodamanyeah
@stickittodamanyeah 5 жыл бұрын
surprised you guys went with the 919 forged over the 919 tour. Assuming your going to go with the MP20 over the 919 tour in the blade comparison video. Any particular reason? i bought the 919 tours this summer and i was curious how they compare with other lower handicap irons as well
@stephendibari7704
@stephendibari7704 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video/comparison ! Loving this series ! Surprised the Ping i210 isn’t included ? I was custom fit for Apex Pro Forged (smoke) this past March by Club Champion, NJ location. Ive played 20 rounds this season with them, love the feel and they’re very forgiving heel to toe and confirmed what Ian said! Great fitting but after diving into the back spin issue I’m now concerned they’re spinning way to low for me! My fitter & myself were blown away by the distance gains compared to the X-Forged gamers (I gained 10-12 yards with the 5 iron) and we both overlooked the low backspin. here are my stats from my fitting using Trackman: 5 Iron: 119.3 mph ball speed; 3,938 rpm back spin, 179 yards carry, 17.3 launch, 1.42 smash 7 iron: 108.5 mph ball speed, 4.465 rpm back spin, 155 yards carry, 18.0 launch, 1.36 smash 9 iron: 96.7 mph ball speed, 5,875 rpm, 128 yards carry, 19.1 launch, 1.24 smash Ive seen various KZbinrs back spin #’s of the i210’s 7 iron and they are typically in the 6-7,000 rpm range. I’m at 4,465 rpm and this has to be too low!?!? My plan is to go back in the spring 2020 and get refitted for Ping i210’s. What are your thoughts on the low backspin & launch angles stats i listed above ? Thanks Steve
@albertofernandez-sanguino3373
@albertofernandez-sanguino3373 5 жыл бұрын
The great thing about playing Quail Hollow on the simulator......you don't have to repair all of those pitch marks!!! 🤣🤣🤣⛳🏌️
@bryceboring2615
@bryceboring2615 5 жыл бұрын
Quick follow up: How would you compare the JPX 919 Forged to the MP 20 line?
@Richsgbox
@Richsgbox 5 жыл бұрын
If you're looking for a cavity, MP20 line is for you. 919 Tours are 👌
@bryceboring2615
@bryceboring2615 5 жыл бұрын
@@Richsgbox Thanks!
@moreme40
@moreme40 5 жыл бұрын
Which iron club(loft) are you hitting here ?
@hughmunkulus7598
@hughmunkulus7598 5 жыл бұрын
Can you guys test the Srixon Z Forged?
@wallstreetoneil
@wallstreetoneil 5 жыл бұрын
Funny how the summary of each of these all match my own experience Srixon - lower spinning Apex - Hotter Mizuno - more consistent Titleist - more spin Taylormade - combo set
@gimbalair
@gimbalair 5 жыл бұрын
Just sold my apex 19 combo set as they flew anything from 160 to 177 yds and I cannot play with that unpredictability. Hoping my i210 will be more consistent.
@stevevetovich6771
@stevevetovich6771 5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, Andy. Sold my Apex Pro 19 set because of unpredictable distance in the long irons. If I hit the sweet spot it would go too far. Too much tech in the longer irons. Good luck with the i210s !!
@nickphillips2099
@nickphillips2099 5 жыл бұрын
Subjective I know but Z785 or 919 Forged?
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