07:42 - That 1-20 scale on the outer ring is a telemeter. It essentially enables you to measure distance between you seeing and hearing something. Say you see a lightning, you start your chrono, and when you hear the thunder you pause it - the telemeter will give you approx. distance, in kilometers. I have it on one of my Citizens as well.
@JustOneMoreWatch4 ай бұрын
Ahhh, that makes sense! 343m/s!
@paulpederson30774 ай бұрын
Awesome dude! Thank you for the information nugget. That makes this watch so much more interesting. (Though knowing the Seagull is only $100 rn is gonna force me to purchase it and not the Proxima).
@389Lee4 ай бұрын
Would you share the model number of your Citizen with the telemeter ring?
@zwerko4 ай бұрын
@@389Lee Sure, CA4559-13A. Next to my Bulova 96K111 (the 'small' Lunar Pilot), it's the largest watch I can still comfortably wear without it looking like I strapped a wall clock to my wrist.
@zwerko4 ай бұрын
@@389Lee YT not publishing comments/replies strikes again 😒So, to repeat, my Citizen with a telemeter is CA4559-13A. It's the largest watch, besides Bulova 96K111 (the 'small' Lunar Pilot), that I can still wear comfortably on my wrist without it feeling like I'm lugging a wall clock.
@mrstraiban4 ай бұрын
Baltany has just introduced their new chrono with a solar movement (Epson VS71). Can't wait to see a review of that model. I'm hoping that solar movements will be used for more Chinese watches in the future.
@e28forever304 ай бұрын
That would be awesome indeed .
@themotleycow4 ай бұрын
The 20-step outer ring is a telemeter scale in kilometers, it's just not marked as such.
@MichaelB-qx1eh4 ай бұрын
Neat strap, but I hope it lasts. Seems like the elastic will stretch quickly and make the pin buckle holes stretch out of shape and place.
@WATCHingJames4 ай бұрын
I really like it and I’ve heard lots of positive comments about the quality of their watches.
@Zelma-j4n4 ай бұрын
What an amazing outcome for a beautiful watch. Always a pleasure to see MAMACOO work your magic. Thanks for sharing this transformation with us!
@adammordo4 ай бұрын
I love that this seems to be an original design instead of an homage, doesn’t even look like a bitser. Might be worth keeping an eye on during the sales.
@rogerweerts75054 ай бұрын
I wear an elastic Nato like this from Zuludiver on my Bulova Lunar Pilot. Great strap!
@jonathanlavery72794 ай бұрын
Watchgecko do them as well. Really comfortable
@stephenmorrissey12544 ай бұрын
This channel has the best intro visuals and music. The reviews are pretty good too.
@lordirek14 ай бұрын
Just got my origin 38 purple and a couple straps to put on it. It's just perfect (maybe an extremely slight bezel misalignment, but probably less than a quarter millimeter so I'm good) and I put it on a near-perfect matching purple sailcloth strap and it is just beautiful. Very bold color through and through, especially in the sun. I love it, thanks for knocking it out of the park, Jody! Exactly what I was looking for at a great price.
@michaelrost36464 ай бұрын
This would have been a good 10 round watch boxing match. Always loved those videos.
@zektron81184 ай бұрын
Discoverd these channel yesterday. Its amazing
@JolynDehne4 ай бұрын
Picked up a amzwatch's watch as my first watch last month and I’m absolutely in love with it. Perfect size, looks elegant, very comfortable. Now my only problem is holding off from buying more watches so quickly!
@bozo5724 ай бұрын
The Seagull 1963 is one of my favorite watches, my wife hated the NATO strap so I wear it with a brown leather strap, and love it!
@thetattedpharmacist32154 ай бұрын
That 1-20 scale baffles me also. I’m happy with my choices of a 1963 and my Baltany vertical bicompax ❤
@rickrounds51504 ай бұрын
I immediately thought of the Vario Trench watch when I saw this one.
@renngretsch4 ай бұрын
These elastic double-pass straps have been a game changer for me. Started buying them off AliX about a year ago and I now have loads...they have made almost all my NATO-style straps and MN-style straps and perlon straps redundant.
@adk79624 ай бұрын
I’m team Baltany amongst these for sure. Thanks for showing us the watch(es)!
@victorutomo72444 ай бұрын
The quartz movement of the Baltany is a win for me. But all of them are good. Thank you Jody for giving such a comparison.
@sharpe88884 ай бұрын
My fave is the Baltany Chrono with lateral sub dials!
@davidcooper86214 ай бұрын
I prefer the Proxima Pulsometer chronograph which comes on that strap which is ace and a dial that is really interesting. Proxima are doing a well made range of watches at an affordable price point, particularly in the sale.
@jaydub95094 ай бұрын
Great comparison review Jody! I think I'll stick with my Red Star 1963, though. Best looking of the three IMO, and one of the few decent quality Chinese watches that isn't pretending to be Swiss. Also, despite the comfort of the elastic strap on the Proxima, I'm not a fan of the excess fabric (one reason I don't like NATOs in general).
@glitchedoom4 ай бұрын
I thought I was done with Chinese specials but that telemeter is just cool enough to tempt me...
@the5th20004 ай бұрын
Me too on both counts
@P_Ezi4 ай бұрын
It is interesting, but one could also just remember to divide seconds by 3 to get km... or by 5 to get miles. Admittedly, that is less fun than having a special dial. Another commenter mentioned that the citizen ca4559-13a has this feature on an Eco-drive Chrono.
@martinkavanagh1964 ай бұрын
Well - at least it's not another 'Dive Watch'.
@mattewj12684 ай бұрын
I like this but there's some Sugess watches winning the St19 chronograph game for me
@TCL_Dasler4 ай бұрын
Fascinating video Jody, really cool.
@artswri4 ай бұрын
Another great presentation and comparison, thanks hugely!
@pauloliver68134 ай бұрын
It really is like a symbiosis of the Baltany and the Seagull. Baltany for me represent fantastic value watches and looks. Personally I'd change the strap out to leather (I know you seem to love it!).
@vitmat77794 ай бұрын
Excellent review Mister , great presentation
@artphotodude4 ай бұрын
This is lovely! BUT the one thing ALL of these get wrong, is that hour/minute hands are TOO BIG and often block the chrono registers - meaning you often have to wait 10 minutes or so for them to get out of the way - should you actually want to use the chrono.
@kaledev4 ай бұрын
I'm so tempted for the 1963 at that price...
@larryfromwisconsin99704 ай бұрын
The double pass NATO strap saved my Omega Seamaster when it caught on the door parachuting. It broke a spring bar but I landed with the watch hanging by the remaining spring bar. I like this watch but I just ordered the parts to build a big dial pilot watch.
@megamega3623 ай бұрын
I feel Chinese mid range watches have the swiss, Japanese on the ropes in terms of quality and finishes some truly superb watches for the money
@slaphead29654 ай бұрын
Hey Jody, You're not fooling us with that elasticated NATO strap mate. Next, you'll be telling us to wear elasticated pants! Great review btw Proxima is a bit too expensive as I already own the Baltany and Seagull thanks to you. Cheers 👍🙂🇬🇧
@RonsTremoloHarmonica-lh4fq4 ай бұрын
I really like the arabic numerals, very much a nod to many of the original WW1 field watches.
@SkysaxonDragonslayer4 ай бұрын
I know it would make the watch even thicker, but when they choose the ST 19 automatic, they would have a real standout feature.
@zwerko4 ай бұрын
I'm not sure if it's really a 'new contender', got mine more than a year ago. Even at that price, it's awesome. The only minor niggles I have with it is that the red indexes don't really work well with that yellow, would probably look even better if the hands and the hour marks were deep orange.
@anthonydevono88334 ай бұрын
Looks pretty good
@SagaSynthetics4 ай бұрын
Only thing I dislike about Chinese watchmaking is that they do some of the best-looking ones, homage or not, with decent movements, but when you see the level of dirt and possible rust at 4:11 that makes me really sad. Yes, they are most likely paid with cents to the dollar assembling these movements, but I wish they stepped up the game here. This could be a Seagull problem and not a Proxima problem. I have ordered a Proxima PX1722 and will be doing an inspection and re-lubing the seals when getting it. This is a model no one seems to have gotten around to acquire yet!
@giorgiodelpalatinato6718Ай бұрын
I'm soooo tired of fautina! I'll wait for the version without since otherwise this is a beautiful watch and all my Proxima watches are top quality.
@chillausmc4 ай бұрын
Proxima lookn pretty good as a brand. PX1703-1A avocado? nice. I cant wait to see new line up for next year
@SteveOSpielberg4 ай бұрын
That looks like a nice 3 watch collection.
@DonaldJoeKennedy4 ай бұрын
Very fun movement to watch in action.
@karlsenula94954 ай бұрын
Smartest move Proxima ever did was get rid of that unicorn logo - ok on the dial ... apparently it is still on the warranty card.
@kobusvanrensburg40924 ай бұрын
Thought it was a Zebra wearing a party hat.
@AlexanderB.4 ай бұрын
The Baltany is the best watch but the 1963 is the most charming watch out of these three.
@mercster4 ай бұрын
Interesting, thanks Jody!
@Plexcom604 ай бұрын
Another nice little watch.
@zektron81184 ай бұрын
What would you say is the best 36mm datejust from these Microbrands? I am personally thinking about thinking to buy the san martin one. But i am open for other sugestions!
@rodiow3694 ай бұрын
I do like Proxima and that one is aesthetically pleasing but I think I've seen enough ST19 iterations, if you want or like the movement I would just stick to the Seagull 63,
@michaelhargis70364 ай бұрын
Are the spring bars removable or permanent? NATO straps aren't my jam. Bracelets or leather straps only for me. Great looking watch. Im interested.
@brianmccord73874 ай бұрын
So if they didn’t want to use the third register of the 1902, why didn’t they just use the 1901? Am I missing something?
@jozsefizsak4 ай бұрын
Mechanical watches are a glorious expression of human ingenuity and brilliance, just as the later quartz movements are. My computer has no vacuum tubes but it's far better than the ones that do and to me, it also has a soul. Well, probably not but it isn't a requirement for things to discuss spiritual matters with us anyway so we can let all of that go. Good technology is a gift from the best of us to the rest of us. I just made that up.
@empierce83374 ай бұрын
Wouldn't the 1-20 scale equal 3 second segments? I might be overlooking something & totally wrong but anyhoo.....This video is serendipitous, I was just about to pull the trigger on a Seagull 1963 this weekend, this has given me food for thought BUT at the price the Seagull is currently selling at , add to that its heritage and provenance, hands down it's gonna be the Seagull! For me it remains number 1 still, it's gonna be difficult for someone to deliver an alternative at a similar price point and overall execution.
@P_Ezi4 ай бұрын
Others have pointed out that this reads km distance when you time from flash to bang. This is based on speed of sound in km/sec.
@empierce83374 ай бұрын
@@P_Ezi Ah!!!! Interesting, that would certainly be useful on a military field watch, making this proxima even more tooly in nature and function. Thanks so much for the insight.
@jojiikeda54954 ай бұрын
Oh yes! Nice watches.
@Yoshikaable4 ай бұрын
Nice and readable! Love it
@jamesblonde22714 ай бұрын
Yeah, my brother stole my '63 but im more tempted by the San Martin 62 Mas chrono than this although it's quite pricey too.
@DaFox134 ай бұрын
I recently got a Proxima watch and I am amazed with the quality. Quickly became one of my favourite watches.
@allrightknight4 ай бұрын
If this was a mecaquartz with a slimmer case and at a lower price I’d get it! I was hoping you would have the answer to the mystery of the #20 unit outer ring too!✌🏼🇺🇸☺️
@rich54084 ай бұрын
Yo, just got an orient SEL0A001B0. Sickkkkkk!!! Thanks man!
@artieshell92054 ай бұрын
Looked at your link for the 1963. Then clicked on the 40mm with bracelet. Only $14,000+. 😆 go have a look, just for fun.
@NotoriousK_I_T4 ай бұрын
Proxima also do a chronograph with the same case but a standard 1963 dial, which looks nice
@RodrigoBarbosaBR4 ай бұрын
Is it me, or do the 1 and 2 of the 12 are misaligned? The 1 looks a bit taller/higher than the 2.
@MrOceanus4 ай бұрын
Yes AND the 10
@paulpederson30774 ай бұрын
Hey Jody, What strp do you have on your 1963 and would you recommend buying a new strap after following your link to buy the red star 1963?
@OHJAJOH4 ай бұрын
4:11 are those rust spots?
@kaledev4 ай бұрын
Oof, I don't think it's rust but it looks like gunk zooming in...
@OHJAJOH4 ай бұрын
@@kaledev it doesn't look, that's for shure...
@LymanPhillips4 ай бұрын
It's a nice stsrt, but with that weird, huge, shiny under chamfer and that weird 20 segment outer track, it makes too many missteps to tempt me.
@nickfoster36374 ай бұрын
Be it quartz, mechanical or automatic they are watches. None of them have souls! Great video as always, but as far as the watch. Meh! Cheers 🍻 P.S that doesn't mean you can't put some soul into your watch! Too many cocktails tonight. Peace out everyone!
@nauticski4 ай бұрын
If I buy a Seagull 1963, is it worth spending the extra $25 to have a swan-neck regulator?
@kaledev4 ай бұрын
I've always heard it's a gimmick and you wouldn't be able to personally regulate it anyway, but that could be wrong.
@Spectrecontrol4 ай бұрын
I like it but I am still going to get a Vario which I think looks better
@drnick404 ай бұрын
These Chinese watches are getting dangerous. Good and cheap.
@jamesdupuch29444 ай бұрын
Like the Japanese in the beginning of their journey?
@dl7034 ай бұрын
Not another wanna be watch brand taking the easy way to making some easy money …yucks.
@WATCHMEGOPOOR4 ай бұрын
Facts..too bad they're communists cause I love their watches
@TheGrenadier973 ай бұрын
And the swiss themselves too.
@gregtolley34554 ай бұрын
Down to about $160 in this sale, whatever it is. Is it just Mr or is there a sale every other week now?
@AbdulRWatches4 ай бұрын
The Chinese Watches are already better value for money than the Japanese, not long before they compete with the Swiss entry level watches.
@DonaldJoeKennedy4 ай бұрын
"Price is always very important to me. But I'm not gonna talk about the price quite yet." Uh oh, so it's thaaat expensive then... 🤑😄
@DadgeCity4 ай бұрын
Proxima are great, but I'd like this more if they didn't copy the text on the watchface.
@bobyoutube40374 ай бұрын
Morning jody, this looks great, so I have 1000 euros to spend on a chronograph, any recommendations? Anyone, anyone....
@thomasgregory19184 ай бұрын
I thought it was a telemeter...thought many/most/all? telemeters were gradated to 20 kilometers. I have a Zenith Pilot Big Date Special with a telemeter, and I think it goes to 20 like that.
@mattsmiley81564 ай бұрын
Definitely a looker. Best of these Ali dual registers. But that movement is just DOA. Loud junk. And to me it’s so roughly machined, not worth it to have an open caseback.
@thomaslinton57654 ай бұрын
Solar? Radio or GPS-corrected?
@e28forever304 ай бұрын
That would be nice!
@danielleavitt54114 ай бұрын
I bought a few of those straps from Vario several years ago. They do not last long. Even with sintered pin holes, they fray very, very quickly. The buckle on the Vario was also too beefy for the thin strap and made it feel a bit awkward when wearing it. Interesting watch though. I like it. Nice to see an original design mechanical chronograph at this price range. I think someone else pointed out that the 20 scale is a km telemeter.
@franciscozaragoza71934 ай бұрын
You like it because it looks just like a 1963.
@kevinbarnbrook47284 ай бұрын
The Simon Cowell of watches, trousers pulled highly above its chunky waist.
@johnjones9284 ай бұрын
The Seagull would be my emotional, YOLO purchase, the Baltany my pragmatic daily driver. The Proxima doesn't really fit either role IMHO.
@kobusvanrensburg40924 ай бұрын
Glad Proxima ditched the Zebra-wearing-partyhat logo.
@danim53734 ай бұрын
Can you tell them to drop the Studio Underdog watermelon copy?
@johnleonard39514 ай бұрын
Looks like who ever put the case back on it went into a sneezing fit before they put the back on. I have seen that movement in other watches a lot cleaner than that one is.
@andreleverettejr37474 ай бұрын
9:51 incorrect Jody, high rise trousers make you look slimmer and elongate your legs. --Master Tailor
@neli5p4 ай бұрын
Gorgeous ... can't wait for the mens version.
@J0hnny8ravo4 ай бұрын
😂
@e28forever304 ай бұрын
👍
@svbskarp14344 ай бұрын
1-20 scale for telemeter
@ctxrider75854 ай бұрын
They should experiment with other color combos, polish the whole side of the case, and lose the Chinese characters. I still like it though!!
@handsomewong24694 ай бұрын
Another stunning watch
@johnsrabe4 ай бұрын
Hasta la proxima, baby.
@Robban.D.Jonsson.4 ай бұрын
Less than 30mm thick doesn't seem like a particularly high bar...
@peterfoskett4 ай бұрын
Hi Jodie, great review. Does the gooseneck spring device make much difference to the accuracy of the 1963?
@JustOneMoreWatch4 ай бұрын
All it does it make it easier to adjust if you do need to tweak it. Cheers!
@michaelgreenhalgh33694 ай бұрын
I don't get that nonsense about a mechanical watch having soul.
@nooclue004 ай бұрын
good design, but i fear thoose chineese movements, i'd rather also pick meca quartz
@e28forever304 ай бұрын
And what about Chinese movements?
@lilchaparro91264 ай бұрын
Prox-E-Ma (Spanish)
@kyledriscollmusic4 ай бұрын
I'll take mecha quartz all day
@gregtolley34554 ай бұрын
Both your subdial hands have counterweights, OG should just be one. I like it better on both but...
@avavaviv14 ай бұрын
The back is inpressive.
@pascaldelaunay47404 ай бұрын
Expensive, to shinny and big, Baltany 100%
@e28forever304 ай бұрын
to shinny? Too shiny.
@J0hnny8ravo4 ай бұрын
Careful with those elastic straps! I wore my watch on a MN strap for 8-9 days and I got a terrible pain in my wrist bones. I ditched the strap and it took about 2 weeks for the pain to go away.
@RogerSartet0074 ай бұрын
A little too much lug to lug for a 38, imho. Yet awesome dial