Biblical Historicity n Consistency

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AronRa

AronRa

Күн бұрын

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• Dutko Against All Reason
This playlist addresses Bob Dutko's sermon "Answering the Skeptic"
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@ApostateMike-41
@ApostateMike-41 Күн бұрын
Dr. Josh is rocking that bow tie. Has a Bill Nye thing going on. Great video Aron!
@tehspamgozehere
@tehspamgozehere Күн бұрын
Bow ties are cool.
@thhseeking
@thhseeking Күн бұрын
The game is to see what bow tie he wears each video, and which glasses and hair Megan Lewis sports in hers :P
@exoplanet11
@exoplanet11 Күн бұрын
The Bill Nye of Assyriology
@imcarlabee
@imcarlabee Күн бұрын
Yea he's a cutie
@kellydalstok8900
@kellydalstok8900 36 минут бұрын
He’s actually an alien time traveler from the planet Gallifrey.
@Dreamspore
@Dreamspore 19 сағат бұрын
Fantastic!! Dr. Josh is always great, and love the vibe between him and Aron! Cheers! 🍷🐍
@blackfeathercrafts
@blackfeathercrafts Күн бұрын
If you watch Josh’s videos and streams you may see a painting of the Dragon of Marduk from the Ishtar Gate. I painted that. :)
@DeconvertedMan
@DeconvertedMan Күн бұрын
COOL! :D
@blackfeathercrafts
@blackfeathercrafts Күн бұрын
@@DeconvertedMan There are only 2 prints made of it. I have one. I found out that Godless Engineer has the other signed print! I was losing my mind! But Josh and Meagan have the original. :)
@DeconvertedMan
@DeconvertedMan Күн бұрын
@@blackfeathercrafts awesome :D
@exoplanet11
@exoplanet11 Күн бұрын
Well done. Thanks for tooting your horn so we can acknowledge your artistry
@DeconvertedMan
@DeconvertedMan 23 сағат бұрын
@@exoplanet11 Her art is awesome. What have you done to add to the world we live in lately?
@davidkeller6156
@davidkeller6156 Күн бұрын
When some Fundamentalist started talking about the Genisis creation story, I tell them they have it all wrong. It was Marduk that created everything after defeating Tiamat. Glory to Marduk!
@fortitudevalance8424
@fortitudevalance8424 Күн бұрын
Still disturbing, and worrying that ppl out there in this world will accept the “alternative facts” that theism provides.
@aralornwolf3140
@aralornwolf3140 Күн бұрын
Have you seen what Prophet Trump says? Truly Scary.
@AllenAnderson-b6t
@AllenAnderson-b6t Күн бұрын
​@@aralornwolf3140Trump 24
@thedrunkshinobi
@thedrunkshinobi Күн бұрын
Not only accept but will choose them over what they will admit in private are facts.
@bulwinkle
@bulwinkle Күн бұрын
Alternate fact = lie.
@user-sp8eb6iz7f
@user-sp8eb6iz7f Күн бұрын
There is no God and you can't prove it.
@Dismal-future
@Dismal-future 23 сағат бұрын
Love me some Dr Josh...former wannabe minister who wholeheartedly believed in Yeshua
@jamez1908202
@jamez1908202 8 сағат бұрын
Always love to see Dr.Josh make an appearance. You can tell there's just so much he wants to say but holds back 😂
@WayneD42
@WayneD42 Күн бұрын
I think a strong argument can be made that in the garden of Eden story the gods were trying to keep mankind down in their attempt to keep humans away from a more god-like knowledge. Josh is overly kind when he concedes that god's lie about the poison fruit was for good reasons. In other (non-biblical) myths the gods try to keep fire away from mankind, for instance. I think that this was a common motif for that particular time of human history, as the gods were not originally considered to be all that kind and loving.
@Soapy-chan
@Soapy-chan Күн бұрын
@WayneD42 common in that region, I think there are stories who the gods or spirits or whatever were good to mankind, especially since there are many cultures without gods.
@rationalpear1816
@rationalpear1816 21 сағат бұрын
yea. i’ve seen other times when dr josh talks about the assyrian myths mentioning how the gods were jealous of their power and tried to keep them away from humans. it’s quite clear that the eden story is the same. i read the tree of knowledge of good and evil as an explanation of a god-like power we have, namely that we seem to have these ideas about how we should and shouldn’t treat other ppl and animals, that the animals of the earth don’t have. so we have partial power of gods, but the gods power of eternal life was kept away from us.
@WayneD42
@WayneD42 Күн бұрын
I find it so funny that for someone like Dutko to claim that the bible is a single unified story requires them to read the bible out of context, assuming a modern post-biblical interpretation of god that must be forced into place no matter how poorly it fits. So, when an atheist is supposedly reading the bible out of context, it is really that they are not forcing in the required re-imagined context that the complainer wants to mandate.
@andrewolson5471
@andrewolson5471 Күн бұрын
I guess that's where I went wrong. I tried a plain reading and came away as an atheist. I forgot to put on the "God glasses" and make assumptions about the text. 🤦 I did it wrong.
@Soapy-chan
@Soapy-chan Күн бұрын
@andrewolson5471 how dare you
@jasa_TheRealOne
@jasa_TheRealOne Күн бұрын
Discount Kent Hovind, the best kind of Hovind! Dr. Josh is awesome! You're Awesome, Aron! Much love, all around!
@micheal-thecanadianatheist
@micheal-thecanadianatheist Күн бұрын
Josh IS the man! THE most humble expert I've ever met!
@NikkiDocherty3174
@NikkiDocherty3174 Күн бұрын
Religion asks people to believe things that are not accurate, true or possible and sometimes unethical or harmful.
@istvansipos9940
@istvansipos9940 Күн бұрын
and that's a relatively good case. In worse cases, religi0n DEMANDS these things
@Catholictomherbert
@Catholictomherbert 13 сағат бұрын
"Logical Fallacies: · Sweeping Generalization · Lack of Evidence · Appeal to Consequences · False Dichotomy Socratic Questions: 1. What specific religious teachings are inaccurate/harmful? 2. How do you define 'accurate' & 'true' in religion? 3. Provide evidence of harm? 4. Are there positive religious values? 5. Distinguish between doctrine & interpretation? Your statement relies on unsubstantiated claims. Provide specific examples & context.' Think critically!" 6 books to consider: Here are the book recommendations: "The Reasonable Doubts" by Gregory Dawes "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins "The World's Religions" by Huston Smith "Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind" by Yuval Noah Harari Or alternative perspectives: "The Case for God" by Karen Armstrong "The Language of God" by Francis Collins Happy reading!
@NikkiDocherty3174
@NikkiDocherty3174 12 сағат бұрын
@@Catholictomherbert 🥳😂
@istvansipos9940
@istvansipos9940 10 сағат бұрын
@@Catholictomherbert and the first g0d detector still not built. The g0d is like Artemis, but more genocidal in the g0d b00k. No "evil atheist" source needed. The g0d fans really should grow up. It would prevent a lot of stupid questions. Like your numbered questions with my numbered anwers bellow 1- creation is inaccurate. We know that stars, for example, are not created. 2 - accurate = real = the claim lines up with (preferably scientific) data and evidence. See the creation point above. 3 - f.e. the "teachings" of a certain steven anderson. Or the trials of Galileo. Or all the $ SCAMMED out of the ignorant with fairy tales. Jihads. Crusades. All the brainwashing about "wicked" behaviour and the harm it causes. Or 9/11. child abuse. Oh, all the AFTERLife claims always coming from MORTALS. We KNOW that they cannot KNOW anything about that stuff, because they are alive (or were alive, when they spit a claim in a book) 4 - Are there positive religious values? no. there are not. Some religi0n happens to care about some positive values. And those values are way waaaay older than those religi0ns. And religi0ns ruin it with special pleading all the time anyway. "Love thy neighbour, unless they are..." there is always an "Unless..." part. 5 - "Distinguish between doctrine & interpretation" as long as religi0ns don't provide the very 1st TESTABLE claim about the g0d... thingie, it is an irrelevant distinction. depending on the goals of a church, the g0d stuff (doctrine AND interpretation) is some sort of rant with 0 scientific evidence. F.e. hateful or less hateful. And they always pinky swear insist that the rant is totally real. The source is always "Trust me, bro". Which means that their rants, no matter how we interpret them, are LIES. Again, see the creation part. and books :- ) as if I used a book (and only a book) to explain the legend of rock water. You would trust me. Because you KNOW what ice is. Isolated villages in HOT areas, the dumbest and the smartest person there, would consider me a liar. For all the good reasons. Because my book would be the claim, and I could not show them anything with any method. religi0ns spit some claims in the public. they give some epic bullsh!t a try. But they are not allowed to kill people anymore, so the whole scam is less and less accepted these days. speaking of religi0us "values", right?
@bruce8443
@bruce8443 12 сағат бұрын
The implication from the argument by popularity is that once enough people get nostalgic for Chairman Mao, and his book resurges in popularity, that then that will be the one true religion, and all the Christians who buy the popularity argument will then switch from Christianity to being Chinese Communists, because of course they think it's super important to be consistent. 🤣🤣🤣
@thhseeking
@thhseeking Күн бұрын
Someone should remind the pastor that one reason it's so popular is because so many people were put to the sword for not accepting it.
@joshmo675
@joshmo675 9 сағат бұрын
Love how you are able to reach out and bring on knowledgeable people and experts that can communicate these important topics in different areas thank's
@firefly4f4
@firefly4f4 Күн бұрын
I actually laughed out loud when he said, "over three continents". Yeah, technically true if you overlook the fact that those writings all took place at the very intersection of said continents and therefore means absolutely nothing.
@jerryking45
@jerryking45 21 сағат бұрын
I liked when you’re introducing Dr. Bowen and have that slow zoom out slowly revealing his face with yours.
@georgeetboom7719
@georgeetboom7719 Күн бұрын
5:00am in uk!!!
@kellydavid7408
@kellydavid7408 15 сағат бұрын
If you have some "Biblical Scholars" on your program again, invite Ammon Hillman From Lady Babylon to debate their "facts". He is a PHD classicist and I think a master's degree in micro-biology.
@encarnacionvillazana3270
@encarnacionvillazana3270 Күн бұрын
You just gotta accept the FACT, that religion is man made... No "gods" nor supernatural entities are responsible for jotting down all those stories in every religious text! 👍👍
@simonsbd
@simonsbd 7 сағат бұрын
i had some greaat great uncles at the Battle of Mons - they said there were no angels or myracle intervention that day / or days - just shit mud overcast rainy conditions and great discomfort .
@trishayamada807
@trishayamada807 22 сағат бұрын
This was great. Thanks! ❤
@DarkScience0
@DarkScience0 16 сағат бұрын
1) The Bible: The best-selling book of all time, with an estimated 5-7 billion copies sold 2) Quotations from Chairman Mao Tse-Tung: At least 1.1 billion copies sold 3) The Quran: At least 800 million copies sold 4) Don Quixote: At least 500 million copies sold 5) A Tale of Two Cities: At least 200 million copies sold 6) The Book of Mormon: 192 million copies sold I just knew Don Quixote was true. Has to be right? LOL
@Tomato_Dragonzord
@Tomato_Dragonzord 6 сағат бұрын
I wonder how the Bible would do in the ranking of books that actually have been READ cover to cover. From how I see it, it's probably the most space-filling book on shelves around the world.
@kellydalstok8900
@kellydalstok8900 33 минут бұрын
So Chairman Mao’s quotations must be more true, right?
@alanhilder1883
@alanhilder1883 Күн бұрын
" there were like 40 people over a thousand years writing this story "... How much "fan fiction" has been written over the last 40 years about star wars? And yes, some became cannon. What other stories also have so much "fan fiction" written and accepted as cannon? Most don't get as contradicted by themselves as the books this pastor is pushing. BTW, Hi mr Megan... ( just pushing that joke out there, a talented family )
@pansepot1490
@pansepot1490 Күн бұрын
What’s interesting is that this phenomenon of proliferation of fanfiction is common to all religions. I remember how as a kid trying to learn about Greek and Roman mythology I became a little frustrated learning that there were dozens if not hundreds of variants of every story for each deity.
@Soapy-chan
@Soapy-chan Күн бұрын
also most of the fanfiction and official canon way decanonized just 10 years ago, similar to what happened and happens to biblical canon.
@fepeerreview3150
@fepeerreview3150 20 сағат бұрын
24:50 re. "univocality" - Somewhere along the way all these various "books" were gathered together and became one narrative. Most likely, as these books became part of a single tradition they were also re-told, i.e. edited, to introduce some uniformity to them. This appears to have happened before the oldest physical texts we have today. This not only explains the "uni-vocality". It also explains the continuity. This is not unusual in story telling, both religious and secular. Many of the famous sagas such as the Nibelungenlied appear to have been mergers of disparate stories, which were then edited into a coherent narrative. One religious example that comes to mind is the Mahabharata, which is 5 times as long as the Bible, the Iliad and the Odyssey combined. Clearly human minds are more than capable of creating these vast narratives. And what better way to pass the time than to tell them to one's family and friends, especially since there was no KZbin to watch.
@davecannabis
@davecannabis Күн бұрын
well these godbotherers are right on one thing, we will end up with god,.... because just like him/her/it we will not exist
@Happyisboss
@Happyisboss 19 сағат бұрын
"Accross three continents" as if it's more than a single region that sits on the fault line of multiple contistants lmao
@fepeerreview3150
@fepeerreview3150 20 сағат бұрын
0:07 "You have to accept the fact that there is a god." - This sounds like the voice of frustration and maybe even a bit of desperation. He's talking the way people talk when they know they've got no case to make.
@frostysnow9856
@frostysnow9856 33 минут бұрын
Being a satanist and being overfascinated with The Bible, you are seen as a "Christian who has left The Book" It's amazing that you don't know that.
@littleredpony6868
@littleredpony6868 Күн бұрын
Being written on 3 continents is not very impressive when you consider that it was written where those 3 continents connect
@alanhilder1883
@alanhilder1883 Күн бұрын
It is like the actor that worked 1939 to 1841... He worked in 2 decades ( a poorly remembered Simpsons reference )
@kellydalstok8900
@kellydalstok8900 27 минут бұрын
At the southern tip of The Netherlands is “het drielandenpunt”, the three countries point. A Dutch comedian said that it is nice there is a place where three countries meet, but to make a point about it …
@jimmythebold589
@jimmythebold589 Күн бұрын
"very same story". wow. dutko probably spent a while crafting that sentence clause, trying to convince himself as to whether to be that disingenuous, or not.
@righty-o3585
@righty-o3585 Күн бұрын
Never been this early 🤘
@francoislacombe9071
@francoislacombe9071 Күн бұрын
There was plenty of time for people with an agenda to select, adjust and edit those texts to make them into a more coherent whole than they originally were ment to be.
@manuelwatts1864
@manuelwatts1864 11 сағат бұрын
16:54 - His claim is nullified by the fact that there where libraries back then, and book vendors in the marketplaces. One could pay to have a particular book translated and copied ... These hooplehead preachers need to be prevented from logging onto websites, typing their info, and being 'hey-presto' ordained by hitting/clicking ENTER ( or mailing a check/money order to Del Norte, CO ...
@fehoward1900
@fehoward1900 Күн бұрын
The question begging fallacy - the question leans on itself as proof.
@christophercripps7639
@christophercripps7639 Күн бұрын
Angels of Mons, where were the Angels on the first day of the Battle of the Somme?
@thhseeking
@thhseeking Күн бұрын
Or Cadorna's eleventy billion Battles of the Isonzo?
@Soapy-chan
@Soapy-chan Күн бұрын
god didn't favor us that day :(
@kohinarec6580
@kohinarec6580 4 сағат бұрын
I will never accept the labeling of EU as Star Wars Legends. Heretics!
@gritch66
@gritch66 3 сағат бұрын
Joshua Bowen feels so much like Loki to me, I can't wait to see him writhe in pain from the serpent venom
@MortusVanDerHell
@MortusVanDerHell Күн бұрын
You have 66 books, written by dozens of authors over 15-16 centuries. What do you call that? That's right. A very long-lived fan fiction community. ^^
@danielhamid5569
@danielhamid5569 Күн бұрын
@@MortusVanDerHell used to be 88 as Canon, still using 88 in Ethiopian bible
@MortusVanDerHell
@MortusVanDerHell Күн бұрын
@@danielhamid5569 Doesn't change my point. 😀
@danielhamid5569
@danielhamid5569 19 сағат бұрын
@@MortusVanDerHell really? i was trying to enhance your point, not to mention the fact that there are even more books of lies and fairy tales that are even less known
@MortusVanDerHell
@MortusVanDerHell 19 сағат бұрын
@@danielhamid5569 Than I misunderstood you. Sorry and thanks for enhancing my point 🙂
@vraska8799
@vraska8799 Күн бұрын
Oh, well! then the Horus Heresy is going to happen 100%. After all, there are at least 64 books written by different authors. You might think i'm a fool now, but just you wait 27.976 years.
@randyhodges8782
@randyhodges8782 9 сағат бұрын
Interesting .
@danielhamid5569
@danielhamid5569 Күн бұрын
There is only the Flying Spaghetti Monster God, Pastafi!!!!
@Emiliapocalypse
@Emiliapocalypse Күн бұрын
Born of the virgin marinara
@AafkeArt
@AafkeArt Күн бұрын
R'amen!
@DavidSmith-vr1nb
@DavidSmith-vr1nb Күн бұрын
Pastafarii
@rembrandt972ify
@rembrandt972ify Күн бұрын
He boiled for you.
@johnridout6540
@johnridout6540 Күн бұрын
Anything apart from rigatoni is heresy.
@noone3216
@noone3216 Күн бұрын
4:52 eg, the book of Jude, (which is in some bibles, but not in others and gets labelled apocrypha) directly quotes from one of the books of Enoch (which is in 0 bibles).
@MilwaukeeAtheists
@MilwaukeeAtheists Күн бұрын
It's in one bible. The Ethiopian one. Just FYI
@noone3216
@noone3216 Күн бұрын
@@MilwaukeeAtheists oh! That's interesting, I was unaware of that. Thanks! 🤙
@noone3216
@noone3216 Күн бұрын
@@MilwaukeeAtheists Out of curiosity, do you happen to know which denominations use it?
@LogicAndReason2025
@LogicAndReason2025 Күн бұрын
Even if we had HD video of Jeebus' magical mystery tour, the most likely explanation would be an ancient illusionist/ con-man. The entire absurd narrative is something you would expect from a Tobe Hooper movie, not a divine super-being.
@brenatevi
@brenatevi Күн бұрын
Preacher: "Just shut up and obey me. These fables are why you need to obey me."
@stephenhill8790
@stephenhill8790 Күн бұрын
Didn't the hydra 🧐🤔have 8 heads, very similar idea 🧐 did someone mix up two stories?
@AronRa
@AronRa Күн бұрын
@@stephenhill8790 7-headed serpents appear in much of Asian mythology.
@stephenhill8790
@stephenhill8790 Күн бұрын
@@AronRa I thought so,much like dragons, demons, fairy, etc people talk about them but can never provide any real evidence,🧐
@fepeerreview3150
@fepeerreview3150 20 сағат бұрын
28:25 One would think that with the angel's on one's side one could defeat the Germans.
@joncraven6524
@joncraven6524 Күн бұрын
Ask an Orthodox Jew this stuff is taught and always meant to be mythology. Never meant to be literal.
@jameswright...
@jameswright... Күн бұрын
Surely you mean metaphor? If it is myth then why believe the god is true? Why follow any of the laws in the myths?
@ornos3133
@ornos3133 Күн бұрын
@@jameswright...there are pagan practitioners, such as KZbinr ocean keltoi, that refer to their foundations as mythology without the derogatory connotations. Even though they do believe that deities like Odin or Zeus do exist the primary concern is just the wisdom in the stories and how to make them work today. As for the parts like the sky is made of a portion of a skull it’s completely discarded for contemporary explanations of physics.
@jameswright...
@jameswright... Күн бұрын
@@ornos3133 You do realise I asked some questions right 🤣 Instead of answering you gave a sermon that's irrelevant 🤣 One that still leads to the same ignored questions 🤣 It's called cherry picking and twisting to suit personal bias. Those pagans are still delusional making their own religion out of myths and fables with added lies.
@ornos3133
@ornos3133 33 минут бұрын
@@jameswright...that’s literally how the process goes and technically does answer the questions. It shouldn’t too much of stretch that some religionist aren’t dogmatic. For example I choose to enjoy and keep with me something like Star Trek. I don’t go around preaching that captains are prophets nor even assume the technobabbling are scientific. I mostly focus the on the dialogues, philosophy and special effects of the day. Of course it’s not a religious thing any more than it’s spiritual experience for those Star Wars fans posing as Jedi. When I interact with materials that are actually mystical in nature this is also how treat it as creative fiction.
@jameswright...
@jameswright... 27 минут бұрын
@@ornos3133 It doesn't even come close to answering any of the questions 🤣 Your post now doesn't 🤣 There is no such thing a mystical particles 🤣 that is fictional 🤣 Nature is as far from mystical magical as possible. It's explainable and understandable.
@LogicAndReason2025
@LogicAndReason2025 Күн бұрын
Given how crappy all of human's so-called "holy books" are, any self-respecting deity would loudly disavow any relationship to them. This for me is one of the best 'evidences' against such beings.
@uninspired3583
@uninspired3583 15 сағат бұрын
Idk if it's the best, but I'm certainly here for it
@PaulGlücklich-h8i
@PaulGlücklich-h8i Күн бұрын
NonStampCollector Quiz Show (Bible Contradictions) video is all I can think about right now for some reason)
@davecannabis
@davecannabis Күн бұрын
im half way through one of Dr Josh's books the Atheist's hand book to the old testament , highly recommend it
@FreeThinker2613
@FreeThinker2613 Күн бұрын
Aron and Josh Bowen. Two of my favourite people.
@laurajarrell6187
@laurajarrell6187 Күн бұрын
Aron and Dr. Josh! And how funny that 'angel' story, considering those were probably christians on both sides! Great truths here during this good conversation, thankyou. Humans must thrive on confirmation bias!👍🏼🌊💙💙💙🌊🥰✌
@thedrunkshinobi
@thedrunkshinobi Күн бұрын
As far as I can tell the Garden of Eden is a story about a father and his children. The Garden of Eden isn't a place you can go. It is a time. The time when you were a child. When every thing was provided for you. Once you come of age and your brain developes enough to start seeing and understanding the more adult things of the world. Once your body started puberty you became an adult. Any one who has been a or been around teenagers know they don't want to listen to the adults and follow all their rules. This is what the serpent and the apple represent. The rebellious teenage years and the knowledge of an adult mind replacing the innocent child's mind. Once this has happened it is time for these now adults to leave the garden and learn to provide for themselves. Its time for them to be god make their own garden to raise the life they make with their partner, their own kids.
@dynamicworlds1
@dynamicworlds1 Күн бұрын
Except that Yahweh acts completely contrary to how a good father should act at every step. The reality is that it's a "just so" story like every other creation myth and serves no value whatsoever, even metaphorical, as every moral lesson it teaches is wrong.
@thedrunkshinobi
@thedrunkshinobi Күн бұрын
@@dynamicworlds1 Didn't say he was a good father. Nor do I believe anything in the bible. It just makes more sense to me that way. It doesn't make any sense at all as a creation story to me.
@rationalpear1816
@rationalpear1816 21 сағат бұрын
if you follow dr joshes work, it’s more likely a continuation of that area’s god myths. those gods jealously guard their powers away from humans. in this case moral knowledge was taken, and they had to be kicked out before that could get to eternal life like the gods.
@istvansipos9940
@istvansipos9940 Күн бұрын
and even if we agreed that all those stories say exactly the same stuff, we still would not know what the g0d is. Let alone what the bible g0d is or does or wants. the g0d fans assume that humans (magically) know how humans were created. they never assume that humans had a magical way to communicate and write the same stuff. religi0us special pleading gets more special every time they open their mouths
@coalcat5417
@coalcat5417 Күн бұрын
I wouldn’t care what people believed if they didn’t use fiction to justify doing bad things.
@FatMadt666
@FatMadt666 Күн бұрын
The fact that the creator of the Mons story had to debunk the myth he created and people still believe it as fact reminds me of Ray Bradbury walking out of a lecture when the audience kept telling him that Fahrenheit 451 was about censorship. After thirty minutes of arguing back and forth Bradbury had enough and walked off the stage.
@geofftottenperthcoys9944
@geofftottenperthcoys9944 Күн бұрын
Well it was.
@FatMadt666
@FatMadt666 Күн бұрын
@@geofftottenperthcoys9944 what was, was? Please clarify 'it'.
@Diviance
@Diviance Күн бұрын
Bradbury literally said it was about censorship shortly after he wrote it. "I wrote this book at a time when I was worried about the way things were going in this country four years ago. Too many people were afraid of their shadows; there was a threat of book burning. Many of the books were being taken off the shelves at that time. And of course, things have changed a lot in four years. Things are going back in a very healthy direction. But at the time I wanted to do some sort of story where I could comment on what would happen to a country if we let ourselves go too far in this direction, where then all thinking stops, and the dragon swallows his tail, and we sort of vanish into a limbo and we destroy ourselves by this sort of action." He reiterated that sentiment again in 1994 in an interview, saying political correctness was the real enemy now and made racist, homophobic comments immediately after. He has been trying to retcon it, though. But there is absolutely no denying he said it was about censorship.
@FatMadt666
@FatMadt666 Күн бұрын
@@Diviance Bradbury: I wasn't worried about freedom, I was worried about people being turned into morons by TV... Fahrenheit's not about censorship, it's about the moronic influence of popular culture through local TV news, the proliferation of giant screens and the bombardment of factoids. All the popular programs on TV, the competition programs, they don't give you anything but factoids. They tell you when Napoleon was born, but not who he was. So it doesn't matter about the date. You should never memorize dates, to hell with it. So we moved into this period of history that I described in Fahrenheit 50 years ago. I've known about this ancedote for a while and hadn't heard anything of him saying the book meant anything else. But I'm not that knowledgeable about the life of Bradbury. That's why I've always thought that the book burning wasn't so much about censorship but getting rid of the competition. Haven't read it in over 40 years so I guess I know what I'm doing for Halloween.
@Scorned405
@Scorned405 Күн бұрын
Aron Ra is God!!!
@DavidSmith-vr1nb
@DavidSmith-vr1nb Күн бұрын
He would dispute that characterisation.
@DavidMueller666
@DavidMueller666 Күн бұрын
TORAH TANAKH TALMUD BIBLE NEW TESTAMENT KORAN ETC: SPOOKY OLD BOOKS BY SPOOKY OLD MEN
@1ApeinSpace
@1ApeinSpace Күн бұрын
Great show. Thanks
@vidarlystadjohansen9829
@vidarlystadjohansen9829 Күн бұрын
Dr. Josh is so great , writes good books too
@john211murphy
@john211murphy Күн бұрын
On 29 September 1914, the Welsh author Arthur Machen published a short story entitled "The Bowmen" in The Evening News, inspired by accounts that he had read of the fighting at Mons and an idea he had had soon after the battle. Machen, who had already written some factual articles on the conflict for the paper, set his story at the time of the retreat from the Battle of Mons in August 1914. The story described phantom bowmen from the Battle of Agincourt summoned by a soldier calling on St. George, destroying a German host. Machen's story was not, however, labelled as fiction, and the same edition of The Evening News ran a story by a different author under the heading "Our Short Story". Machen's story was written from a first-hand perspective and was a kind of false document, a technique Machen knew well. The unintended result was that Machen had a number of requests to provide evidence for his sources for the story soon after its publication, from readers who thought it was true, to which he responded that it was completely imaginary, as he had no desire to create a hoax.
@manuelwatts1864
@manuelwatts1864 13 сағат бұрын
Apropos to the subject ... Orson Welles Mercury Theater broadcast back in 1938 ...
@The.BansheeRose
@The.BansheeRose Күн бұрын
Good discussion
@noone3216
@noone3216 Күн бұрын
Interestingly, according to the way its written, adam and eve were quite likely already eating of the second tree - the tree of life already existed when they were told not to eat the other tree, and they were told they could eat ANY tree except for the tree of knowledge (Gen 2:16,17). Possibly their frequent eating of the fruit kept them young, hence eternal life so long as they could eat of the tree. When they disobeyed, god expelled them specifically so that they couldnt eat from the tree of life anymore (Gen 3:22-24) THATS what killed them. It wasn't eating the fruit - it was being denied their source of eternal life.
@AronRa
@AronRa Күн бұрын
But God said that if they had eaten of that tree, then they would live forever. Not slightly longer, forever.
@noone3216
@noone3216 Күн бұрын
@@AronRa That's actually a good point, I can't refute that.
@henryschmit3340
@henryschmit3340 Күн бұрын
"..n Consistency" The critics have always had their own consistency problems.
@memecity9849
@memecity9849 Күн бұрын
According to the Catholic church, it doesn't matter whether something really happened or if there are contradictions. What matters to them is that the message of the author was understood and that God's message is perfect.
@AafkeArt
@AafkeArt Күн бұрын
Super interesting. Also, I got lots of Christian commercials in this video. 🙃
@stephengasaway3624
@stephengasaway3624 Күн бұрын
One of the most important steps in my deconstruction... realizing that "Belief in something doesn't make it true." Applied first to my own beliefs, then expanded to others.
@RickMason-yj7pv
@RickMason-yj7pv Күн бұрын
Garden of Eden? Just a bumper crop year. No fake god required.
@bodan1196
@bodan1196 Күн бұрын
To be a bit nitpicky, there was not a king called King David. There was a king, likely, but David is what we today call him. In english, or american english if you will. How he himself would name himself... that I don't know. If someone does, please explain how...
@pmaphl
@pmaphl Күн бұрын
Hey Aron, for the past few videos your Discord notification sfx seem to be leaking in. I suggest you kill that .exe and perhaps remove it from the programs running at windows startup. Keep it up :]
@hannahhodgins9516
@hannahhodgins9516 Күн бұрын
Aron, you played a huge part in helping me in my deconstruction ✨🌎your videos dive deep into such a compact, fulllll of information and knowledge insite. Critical thinking and evidence is crucial and beautiful
@noone3216
@noone3216 Күн бұрын
Haha, any old school skateboarders from south australia will see the font in the thumbnail and immediately think of the skate shop Daily Grind.
@mike62mcmanus
@mike62mcmanus Күн бұрын
Ok, Israel becoming a nation again was man fulfilled. Ishmael's hand against every man is also fulfilled. Israel surrounded by her enemies is come true. Isaac being the blessed one instead of Ishmael, well 1.6 Billion Muslims have won I think 15 Nobels with 11 being for Peace (laughs) and Literature (Islamic poetry or something) while 15 million Jews is what there's been for two millennia (give or take, Hitler trimmed them back down ) they of Jewish descent have won 214 Nobel prizes... Jews comprise only 0.2% of the world's population, meaning their share of winners is 110 times their proportion of the world's population... So I guess Ishmael didn't get the blessing.
@bodan1196
@bodan1196 Күн бұрын
@2:10 "...66 books..." (one 6 away from 666?), "... written by 40 different authors, on three continents, over a spann of 1500, 1600 years. And many didn't even know each other". This is not so surprising, considering three continents and the spann of years. No? But personal acquaintance, is not needed for the translation of ideas, thoughts, ideologies, nor illness. Is it? That sentence: "And many didn't even know each other"; is added distracting fluff. If you feel the need to add such fluff sentences when you talk about your beliefs, you are confessing a fabrication of trusswork for you belief. That you belief is not strong enough to stand on its own. Apologetics is just that, a desperate attempt to fabricate a trusswork that will support an ailing belief. How do we know that there were 40 authors? Is it not likely that there were more, considering area and time? Is it not responsible to stipulate, for the sake of honesty; that every single monk who made a copy, had the idea of changing, or adding, their own thoughts to the texts? How many acted on that idea? How many got caught? How many did not? Forty? Forty two?
@thegreatcanadianweasel9928
@thegreatcanadianweasel9928 Күн бұрын
I always latch onto the whole 3 continents thing. They do it to sound impressive when really it is just local geography. If one of the continents ended in "America" and another was Oceania/Australia then I would be more impressed.
@StorytimeJesus
@StorytimeJesus Күн бұрын
Daniel is post 163 BCE
@Simon.the.Likeable
@Simon.the.Likeable Күн бұрын
@ 15:56 - What they were trying to establish was an unshakable foundation mythology. They needed to legitimize and future-proof their territorial claims. They are still using their mythology for those exact same reasons today, as in Netanyahu's most recent UN speech. Their foundation mythology was so unshakable that they were able to build two other religions for the 70 Nations off it. The Gentiles were happy to assume the roles of Bnei Esau and Bnei Ishmael and stay in character to serve them.
@davidkeller6156
@davidkeller6156 Күн бұрын
So basically, the Bible is true because the Bible says it’s true.
@DeepDrinks
@DeepDrinks Күн бұрын
Daddy Bowen!
@kcthrower
@kcthrower Күн бұрын
I wish they could read the earliest versions
@aemiliadelroba4022
@aemiliadelroba4022 Күн бұрын
So what is the function of religion ? If it is not the truth then what ? 😮
@LeoTheMageWarrior
@LeoTheMageWarrior Күн бұрын
Where can I ask Aron Ra a question? If so, let me know, but I would love for him to explain why he only colors his beard and mustache blue, but doesn't seem to color his hair or eyebrows.
@coalcat5417
@coalcat5417 Күн бұрын
Idk but it looks cool
@jimmythebold589
@jimmythebold589 Күн бұрын
IT DOESN'T MATTER IF HE READS ARAMAIC. JESUS TALKS TO ME AND SATAN TALKS TO HIM! AND NOT THE COOL SATAN THAT ARONRA DOESN'T ACTUALLY BELIEVE IN
@jimmythebold589
@jimmythebold589 Күн бұрын
/s , just to be safe. you never know. theists and maga abound these days.
@PebblesProtein
@PebblesProtein Күн бұрын
This is why kids should stay off youtube!
@__-tz6xx
@__-tz6xx Күн бұрын
🤔
@jameswright...
@jameswright... 21 сағат бұрын
Why? To avoid learning 😂
@uninspired3583
@uninspired3583 15 сағат бұрын
​@@jameswright... learning is the biggest threat to faith
@kimjohnson4278
@kimjohnson4278 Күн бұрын
Dr. Josh takes soooo long to get a sentence out....
@Kelley_X
@Kelley_X Күн бұрын
But really worth waiting for.
@vojtechpribyl7386
@vojtechpribyl7386 Күн бұрын
Also about the Bible being the most sold book in the world is quite funny when entire prints are bought just to be handled out as street evangelisation.
@thhseeking
@thhseeking Күн бұрын
Or this guy called Gideon who keeps putting his bible in my bloody hotel room! Stalker!
@vojtechpribyl7386
@vojtechpribyl7386 Күн бұрын
@@thhseeking Are you sure it's not toilet paper delivery?
@jameswright...
@jameswright... 20 сағат бұрын
I always wondered who brought them 🤣 Big companies to hand out free not that many individuals 🤣 It also helps when the first books printed in the west were bibles and most didn't own couldn't read hence the images in churchs. What I want to know is how many sold since say harry potter and who wins on sales?
@vojtechpribyl7386
@vojtechpribyl7386 14 сағат бұрын
@@jameswright... They are bought by church organisations and handled to the preachers as well. With the images in church you have to take in to account that the Bible was in Latin and translations were not made, so it's nature was largely an arcane tome that only the clergy could use. The church scriptoriums were also the only source of the new books and only places of concentrated knowledge where they could be translated. Many more people could read, but didn't know latin. With the reformation AND the invention of print the centralised power of Rome couldn't reach everywhere and the protestants gave the book in the hands of the individual laypeople, which in the end the catholics had to follow suite, but it had to be due to books becoming far easier to obtain and translations being made and printed. After all a lot of thenpopulation in Europe was bilingual, so translating from German or French was far easier.
@jameswright...
@jameswright... 8 сағат бұрын
@@vojtechpribyl7386 That's great but everyone knows that, I mentioned some of it. That's kinda the point, people don't buy personally. My question was about recent times and sales🤣
@verycaring2387
@verycaring2387 Күн бұрын
You are such a LIGHT in their darkness. Hail SaTaN and Hail Aaron RA!!!😈❤️‍🔥
@PebblesProtein
@PebblesProtein Күн бұрын
This is why kids should stay off youtube!
@jamescastro2037
@jamescastro2037 Күн бұрын
Religion cannot point to a physical God in the world, just like a science cannot point a physical number in the world. Both are mistaken interpretations of knowledge. They are beliefs, based on thinking of things on paper. Geometry will tell you a triangle has 3 sides, but if you pick up the shape of a triangle it has a face and a back giving it 5 sides. And to balance it on its surfaces you would have 8 options counting the points.
@CotyVlassich-yf7hz
@CotyVlassich-yf7hz Күн бұрын
I living proof it's true but it's not the way it says in our bibles but behind all lies lay the truth within it and have all the evidence to prove it cause I AM the Holy Trinity and the AnitChirst and remember it says in our bibles in these last days "God" ain't going to speak threw no Prophets just thou the one true son of man that she yes I said she made higher then the angels and give him truths that no one from this generation or any other generations before have known and yes you can say it's just my opinion or whatever else you may say but I have five years of evidence that proved the solid trues and they are unexplainable things dating back to when I was two somehow till now and I'm 37;born May 20 1987
@jameswright...
@jameswright... 21 сағат бұрын
It is you opinion based on 5 years is irrelevant. Well I say irrelevant, it's actually disturbing you believe a word of your gibberish. god is make believe for a start.
@CotyVlassich-yf7hz
@CotyVlassich-yf7hz 14 сағат бұрын
@@jameswright... Opinion and irrelevant and your still talking about Jesus you ain't got enough knowledge for this debate cause Jesus is just Satan false image that the annukni or reptilian been hiding behind since the Egyptian times and made a pack with the Romans that they reincarnated into take over our world and now are the priest and leaders of our world cause the Romans never died off they just turned into the Vatican and that's why our bibles priest and churches are so similar to the times of the Egyptians and they used thier gold that they sworn they be reincarnated with to build and fund it all and then took over the blacks cause thier ancestors back then smoked they axxes and now they have most of us brainwashed and using thier money to keep control well making our neighborhoods like they do cause they don't care if we kill each other off maybe white but we were all blackish at one time and that's why most of us have freckles cause it's our original colors popping out and that jealous God of our bibles are them to cause no caring and loving forgiving God is going to make sure he's put first cause our true creator and all loving and forgiving mother they killed and casted her love and light from our world and that's when all the evil started happening and it's all in our bibles but everyone seems to just fellow blindly without looking for the truths themselves like it says within them we all know her as Lucifer cause she's been perceived as a male this whole time but they throw her in different books and give you little hints about her just changing her name threw it and that's why it's a female that comes back on the head of the dragon in Revelations and not a male and they call the dragon the destroyer cause she's riding it cause she's mother of all things and that why they all are running around like chickens with thier heads cut off right now cause they know what's coming and they trying to hide and fix it all at the same time but it's to late for them and they know it so they wait in that fear pushing out as much truth as they can waiting for the AnitChirst to appear still trying to hide the actual truth and what really happened all them years ago hoping it doesn't come but I got a feeling it's coming soon cause I'm getting tired of waiting and they all know it cause I AM the AnitChrist and the true Holy Trinity and I know all the hidden facts cause I AM the one and only true son of man that they made higher then all the angels cause I beat the Satan at his own game in human form and was given the truth that no one of this generation or only other generations before knew and that's why it says in our bibles that God will not talk threw no Prophets in the end days and the end days doesn't mean our worlds ending its just what they used to scare the masses real truth thou is we will no longer have to fight to survive and we're all come back together helping one other hand and hand to make our world a better place and bring our heavens back to earth forever and ever amen and women and whatever else maybe maybe in peace and I have the true mark of the beast in my left palm prove everything I have said and tons of other unexplainable things from that lonely dark axx road where I lost everything cause my own family and friends that's been thier pretty much all my life robbed me tried killing me and did about anything else you can think of tried using voodoo dolls witch chaft had whole coventdents after me and just all kinds of crazy axx stuff went on threw that five years of research just about everything I could like our Bibles different religion astrology neurology my horoscopes my birth numbers palmistry and just whatever else you can pretty much think of I looked into one or twice too find wisdom can't find her in the light she finds you in the dark and she came I found out that I had two anicent spirits within me one being Mother Mary and the other Lilith a transgender daughter who was the true child that Joseph and Mary hid from the church cause Joseph was actually against it and all Jesus teachings was actually his and after Johan snitched them out about the child they gathered thier raping party and went and raped and beat Mary and the little girl swearing they were witches and then burnt her leaving Mary and Joseph alive to watch and after that they chained Mary up on the edge of town so they could rape her whenever they wanted and that's why thier are two different Mary's in the bible and Joseph suffered that fate we all know about Jesus Christ and they got that name after lifting up her tunic cause it was the first thing out thier months and In my more recent research that I been doing im about 99 percent sure it all happened over here and the flood was alittle spiced up story about Noah crossing the Atlantic Ocean and the Statue of Liberty is actually the place they chained Mary like to add this mark on my hand is in our bibles and different religions all around the world in Africa it's called the transcendental Mark of Destiny wish I could sent pics but KZbin don't let you do that yet and I can prove all of this with our bibles and all the unexplainable things the universe has given me to bring these truths to light so tell me now how this is all irrelevant again cause I missed the part where you actually did the research and went threw hell when all you ever done was helped everyone else your whole life whenever they called and they always called me cause of my strength and cause I wasn't one too say no and now at the end of it all I'm stuck with the same family and friends at there house cause I'm homeless pretty much cause I lost my house business and pretty much everything else I own cause of it one of my dogs are even in lock up cause could take care of myself let alone two dogs but here now watching them go thou thier karma they brought on themselves and I stay home with my littler cousins taking care of them cause they are supposedly split up and always running don't come back for two or three days sometimes it's ok thou cause my stuff's here and I get to see it again well some of it anyway that they didn't get rid out and get thier own
@kellydalstok8900
@kellydalstok8900 19 минут бұрын
Please take your medication.
@WookWook89
@WookWook89 Күн бұрын
How do you come to terms with the scary thought of there being no afterlife? I lost my brother last week and it scares me thinking about there being no after life. I know fear is a very common reason people fall into religion but I’ve always been agnostic leaning more atheist but I’m still terrified of the end.
@sagittariusa2008
@sagittariusa2008 Күн бұрын
There is nothing to be afraid of. It will be just like it was before you were born. Condolences for your loss. We lost our son this year. Have you ever been under anesthesia, same thing, except for the waking up part. Save your worries for things you have some control over. There is nothing you can do to avoid moving forward in time.
@alanhilder1883
@alanhilder1883 Күн бұрын
To start, sorry about your brother, not trying to mess with your mourning. There is an old joke called "Why worry". It puts the christian afterlife in perspective. I only ever tell the short version.
@AronRa
@AronRa Күн бұрын
I could not be afraid of being dead, but existing continuously in an inescapable eternity that will never end? That would be a nightmare.
@Disentropic1
@Disentropic1 Күн бұрын
I'm sorry to hear that. I personally agree that death is indeed scary for those who value their lives. After all, it seems that fear exists mainly so that we avoid things that lead to death. But in the end, what you do for those around you will set the conditions for _their_ lives; we are all part of a greater whole through which our lives echo onward. There are no easy answers and no grand author to write our final chapter, but instead, like the many other organisms who coexist with us, we each contribute from the bottom-up to construct part of the tapestry of this unimaginably rich experience of life. All of the natural world's humbling beauty is a reflection of the living beings - past and present - that make it up. I hope that seeing this larger picture can be of some consolation to those who've suffered such a loss.
@fableslayer
@fableslayer 23 сағат бұрын
aron. the printing press was first developed by the chinese long before the anyone else by like a thousand yrs. or so. just sayin!
@theartsig
@theartsig Күн бұрын
My like was number 666. What do I win?
@manuelwatts1864
@manuelwatts1864 13 сағат бұрын
A lapdance from Joyce Meyer ... 😃 😶! 😏 Ok ... I'll be seeing myself to the door ...
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