*BIG UPDATE* 2025 Mazda CX-70 gets Official Pricing // Mazda 6 coming NEXT?!

[@Stinger430]

CX-70 should've just been a CX-90 trim option. I so hope they do a new Mazda 6. I hope it looks like the Vision coupe.

[@Math-zl8kq]

We need a Mazda 6 wagon in North America!

[@felixli5279]

There is...since 2013. It just branded as CX5 and CX50 with much taller ground clearnance than the original Mazda6 wagon which N.American car buyers love(actually, more like demanded) these days...

[@FlatSixBoosted]

Trim to trim: Would expect 90 to have better residual value than 70 due to 3rd row alone.

[@Thejustin84]

I was interested in the cx70 until I found out it was the same price as the cx90. I don’t need the 3rd row but was looking forward to the extra cargo space. Doesn’t make sense to me.

[@candlercando]

The release of the cx70 has me increasing my decision matrix points on a last model year Durango. And the Durango wasn't even on my matrix at all for being too big.

[@Chiroman527]

​@candlercando Just a caution point on the Durango (Jeep)....look into their service issues like the Jeeps have. Mazda has a very good rating, drive great with excellent handling. Just Sayin....

[@stromghouls]

my local Mazda dealer told me nobody in their dealership is happy about the CX-70. and he told me they better price it at a good price. now i see they did exactly the contrary of what he told me. i have to admit that copper color is incredible.

[@AhujaEnt]

That’s exactly what my Mazda dealer folks said too - they weren’t happy with it.

[@raymondgraber9629]

Right, I had just calmed down from seeing it's the same size as the Cx-90 and now the prices are the same except they dropped the 2 trim levels that I liked. And the kicker is this upcoming Mazda 6 is 193" long...exactly the size I wanted the cx70.

[@markcoopers1930]

​@@raymondgraber9629let's hope. When the CX-70 came out on the same wheelbase as the CX-90, I was starting to think we'd be more likely to get a 929 replacement instead of a Mazda6 🤣

[@ms.b9093]

My Mazda dealer was not happy about it either and they hate their are so many trim levels, not only for the CX 90 and 70 , but across the entire Mazda range. They need to consolidate trims and features and simply their offerings like Honda and Toyota.

[@RealKevGotEm]

Hahahaha 😂 it’s gonna fail so bad

[@chillaxinn]

Recently quite a few of my co-workers have bought Mazdas. I've recommended them for the last 5 years. Just in the past 6 months I've gotten 5 co-workers to buy Mazda3, CX-30, CX-5, CX-50 models. After test driving them, they bought the cars!

[@romeropostali520]

Oh fuck. Depreciation rockets. You screwed them.

[@2004cyrus]

@@romeropostali520wrong. People are making $6,000 more than normal on selling their Mazdas. Myself included. My $21,000 3 year old Mazda CX-5 sold for $28,900 on Monday.

[@bonilla1240]

​@romeropostali520 Negative. Mazda is on the come up. It's filling the void Toyota seems to be leaving behind as they over price their vehicles. Especially considering many Mazda models are MADE IN JAPAN 🤩

[@Chiroman527]

I had 2 Mazdas in the past 15 yeasr or so. The 6 ws an excellent mid sized Sports sedan with it's V-6 engine...True Zoom-Zoom . They are the Poor Man's BMW !

[@serbzero]

As much as I love Mazda, this is just a flop, they cost exactly the same as CX-90... So the third row erase doesn't save you any money, total bummer.

[@blackwhirlwind1245]

That’s basically same thing when some companies priced the same for bench seats and captains chairs such as Subaru Ascent.

[@AlphaDino]

@@blackwhirlwind1245 Yeah but they don't go out of the way to rename the car something different because of the different seats. Instead of deleting the 3rd row as an option on the CX-90, or a different grade trim, Mazda spent millions in marketing and trade marking the CX-70 name.

[@ztekz]

It’s worse in Cda as CX-70 $5K more than CX-90! It doesn’t make sense! THIS IS A FAIL FOR MAZDA!

[@jibosnjak9840]

The CX-70 is such a oddball choice. It’s massive, would obliterate the space in my garage. Why wouldn’t they bring the CX-60 instead?

[@faheemabbas3965]

The CX-5 and the CX-50 exist. Otherwise we would’ve gotten it. There’s already spy shots of the next CX-5 online as well.

[@th003g]

Because the 60 is too narrow and close to the 5/50 in interior space. They are trying to say the 70 has class leading interior space for a 2 row midsize Crossover but they leave out the fact that it's a foot longer than the class they want to compete in. Buyers don't care if it is bigger inside if it is a foot longer overall.

[@jeffo1728]

Yep, won’t in my garage, so it’s a no for me.

[@jeffs6090]

I don't understand the size of the CX-70. Every article for months was saying that the 70 will be the same vehicle as the European CX-60 but a little wider. That would make sense between those two. For it to just be a third row deletion of a CX-90 doesn't make any sense at all. No other brand gives a different name to a vehicle because they take out the third row. A GV80 can come with or without a third row. Genesis doesn't call it something different for the two row.

[@BIgDubyaGanoosh]

I agree. Hyundai stopped making the 3 row Veracruz and called it the Santa Fe XL lol a 3 row Santa Fe. It made so much more sense. I'm a huge Mazda fan, and this whole cx70 design and pricing is a disappointment.

[@2004cyrus]

Mazda isn’t a copy cat that’s way: do you want Mazda to be like everyone else ? Such stupid logic garbage. You’d be the gal to bash them if they copied. Smh- pathetic

[@OSUBoxkator]

​@@2004cyrus calm down, child. You're entire comment was brainless nonsense. Read a fucking book.

[@MyMovie5858]

This price strategy does not make much sense. It almost seems like the point of the CX70 is to boost the CX90 sales. I think the CX70 is setup to fail.

[@AhujaEnt]

I was really hoping for a lower price point on the CX70. That’s ridiculous for the same to same.

[@DM72513]

It’s actually a few thousand cheaper and for some reason the CX-90 trims were lowered to match.

[@AhujaEnt]

What?! Really? lol. Goodness. Still a little higher than I hoped but maybe in a few years I can grab one!

[@miketwotwenty]

It should honestly start at 36k

[@styner3]

@@DM72513 So it's still the same price as the CX-90

[@moedollars7050]

After this pice announcement for the Cx70, i can't see a reason why anyone would opt to buy a cx70 when you can just get a cx90 with a 3rd row that you can fold down when not in use. I believe Mazda undercut themselves buy not offering the cx70 for at least $2500-$3000 less. Time will tell. For me, i am going to hold off and keep my cx50 turbo, which i love, and wait for the hybrid version of that model to come out.

[@alwaysiyi272]

I personally don’t get the point of the CX-70, in the outside it is the same size so you’re not getting a smaller vehicle that can fit into smaller spaces. On the inside the 2nd row can not be adjusted for more legroom so it has the same amount as the CX-90, so why not just get the CX-90 and just fold the 3rd row seats?, and it’s not that much cheaper than a CX-90

[@MattPSU02]

you get storage where the seat would have been.

[@kenl3157]

I wholeheartedly agree with you.

[@Michael-li3id]

wow. just googled it, because I couldn't believe that it was the same. They are both the same length.

[@njswampfox474]

That's what I did. The CX-90 makes a lot more sense and the beautiful artisan red color [really maroon) won't be available for the CX-70

[@francisgallozzi2595]

I just checked the Mazda Canada website and to my surprise, the top trim inline 6 (Signature) CX-70 is only $1000 cheaper to start in comparison to that of CX-90 Signature.

[@arhamkhakwani5851]

It makes sense honestly, considering it’s a 3rd row delete CX-90.

[@peterjordan2738]

I agree with some of the other comments. Bring in the CX-60 at a lower price than the CX-70. The CX-70 to me does not make sense since it is a CX-90 without the 3rd row. Way too expensive. Still waiting on the CX-5 Hybrid. Kirk, if you have not read ALL of the comments below, please do.

[@Tomorrow32]

How can they have the same price when CX-90 has a third row? In that case, why did they need the CX-70 model? They could just make the third row optional.9

[@rightlanehog3151]

Kirk, The Mazda 6 that interests me is the wagon. 😉

[@littlestinker9716]

Wagon or bust!

[@ThePilotGear]

i'm also down for a wagon. I was just b*tching about this the other day how our European siblings have tons of access to wagons and we keep getting the less practical versions, to which others respond 'Just get an SUV then'. I'm very glad Mazda is considering bringing a Mazda6 back into the North American market; us Canadians love our wagons, hatchbacks and compact cars. We'll happily have a new Mazda6 even if they never bring a wagon here.

[@michaelkovalsky4907]

@@ThePilotGear You don't. There's a reason they stopped selling the Mazda6 wagon there. North America doesn't buy wagons, it is lame, but they don't.

[@ThePilotGear]

@@michaelkovalsky4907 I know and it's pretty sucky. They were really popular here. Cars like the Golf Sportwagen outsold every other variant of Golf and the Jetta. But decisions are made and we no longer have access to them despite that they are fully developped and built for other markets. Pretty discouraging for anyone who wants a non-SUV family car.

[@JimmyXie]

We need that Copper color for the Miata!

[@KirkKreifels]

Yes

[@awepossum1059]

I still don't understand the point of the CX 70. Why is it the same size as a CX 90 with one less row? Why didn't they make it smaller

[@DeadAir21]

They wanted best in class cargo space.

[@awepossum1059]

​@@DeadAir21 Are people going to buy CX 70s to haul around massive amounts of cargo? They should have made it in between the CX 50 and CX 90.

[@DeadAir21]

@@awepossum1059 Americans are buying bigger vehicles so they can carry more stuff so yea they are probably going to carry cargo. The problem is everyone thought the 70 was going to be a sporty compact but they wanted a mid size crossover. IMO 2025 will be when you’ll see a better comparison between the two vehicles. The pricing is the same now but we’re comparing a 2024 CX90 to a 2025 CX70. Once the 90 hits the 2025 model year the price will go up and for many those savings will be enough to consider a 70.

[@blackwhirlwind1245]

Passport with 192 inches long might have bigger cargo space than CX70 with 200+ inches 😂 Mazda sucks when it comes to utilizing space.

[@tommy13965]

@@DeadAir21 if that is the case then those people would end up getting a grand Highlander or a Honda pilot they got all the cargo space you need.😂

[@sanderanocic]

The Iconic SP has a firm chokehold on me ever since they revealed the car. After 15 years of having multiple car crushes, like I think we all sometimes have to a certain extent, this car is designed with the understanding of what a car lover feels without them knowing it, it quite literally visually translates an emotion indescribable for any car enthusiast. I have no more interests in new cars, just the SP. I hope it comes out soon - with a manual please. AHURA!

[@miketwotwenty]

I’m hoping the upcoming rx sports car will look more like the Mazda rx vision concept from 2015!

[@gregorskiff]

Don't get your hopes up too high, it will not look like the concept after marketing, lawyers and accountants are done ruining it. A manual is not what they want. I hope they prove me wrong but confidence is not high.

[@Michael-li3id]

Gobble up a cx90 while you can. because 6-8 months from now when the 2025 comes out, they're going to cost $5-10k more for each trim.

[@Johns1stGarage]

In about 5ish years I'll probably swap my CX-50 Meridian for one of these. I was impressed with the CX-90 PHEV's performance and have been dying to try the Inline 6 ever since.

[@senorgato70]

The CX-70 is priced the same as the CX-90. Not sure that makes sense since it doesn't come with a 3rd row. There should be a price advantage for the CX-70, unless there are other features that I am not aware of that justify the identical pricing. There isn't any advantage to getting a CX-70 vs. the CX-90 unless you are just hell bent on getting differently styled bumpers. Sorry, but the CX-70 will be a fail. I was very intrigued at the potential for the CX-70. Of course I was envisioning a lower-priced 2-row option with somewhat more dynamic styling and eliminating that horrid rear hump. But, alas, Mazda did this and none of it makes sense. On top of that, I believe the black wheels we saw at the CX-70's intro are only available in the lower trim levels, at least based on one journalist.

[@parsley0120]

Whelp, maybe I’ll end up getting one if dealers have to discount them because of the horrible pricing structure against the CX-90.

[@charles_.l]

The Mazda 6 is going to be a 1-row CX-90

[@tommy13965]

😂😂😂

[@Karysignature]

😂😂😂😂

[@tommy13965]

@@Karysignature 😂😂😂😂😂

[@WScott-gd2mj]

Even if I actually wanted a 2-row this big -- which I do not -- I would buy the 90 in case I ever had to stuff a couple extra people in the car.

[@tmascrown2815]

I have been waiting for the 6 since the vision coupe concept.

[@AJ-bh7vm]

I am glad Mazda gave option to people who want a bigger size SUV, but don't need the third row of seats. However, I think they should have called the CX-70, CX-90 sports. I think they would have had a better response from consumers if they just called it a CX-90 sports by removing the third row seats. I don't know whose idea was to have the same size/practically same vehicle as the CX-90, but called it a different name.

[@Chiroman527]

Kirk, good review of the dizzying foray of Info, Models, and price matching to the CX-70 vs Cx-90. As a matter of opinion, my 22 Acura MDX Advance lease comes due in August. I don't need a 3rd ROW (I often wonder why the Craze for 3 Rows , I don't see them being used at all) and the CX -70 caught my interest when I heard the News of it coming out. The CX-70 in Europe is totally different. Far better actually. It is slightly smaller with better MPGs too!. There is Rumor of a release of a CX-60 (being closer to the European CX-70 ??? Confusing as hell). Having said this, at the price point of $56-57K for a fully Loaded CX-70 (or CX -90) 3.3 L Turbo Premium Plus is over $10K cheaper than a new 2024 Acura MDX Advance ($64-65K) AND if you want the HP /Torque of the Mazda you have to up the Anty to a TYPE S MDX at $75K . The new 2025 MDXs were just announced with the News Flash of the emination of the fandangled Touch Pad InfoT. to a Touch Screen. Other subtle exterior and interior refreshes AND a price Increase to $78K ! I will have the decision to Buy my 22 MDX which will have Lease equity with only 21K Mils on the clock for $38.5K (bulit into the lease) , lease a new one for lost more $$$$$ or entertain a new 24 Mazda CX-70 Premium Plus ! A point not made here is regarding MPGs! The Type S MDX (having very comparable HP /Torque numbers to the CX-70 Premium Plus) is about 15% lower than the Mazda on Premium Fuel!. Kirk made the best point about the price differnces.... Mazda should have reduced the price on the 70 vs 90 for the 3rd Row....$1500 at least!

[@Patrick-sd5bz]

@Kirk Kreifels The price of the Turbo S trim levels for the CX-90 have dropped by almost $5,000 as per the Mazda Newsroom. Interesting Value proposition for the higher trim levels.

[@InuranusBrokoff]

CX-70 is a no go, what a bummer. I'd buy a 6 if they brought it to North America.

[@realtalk5931]

That Iconic SP looks so frickin good

[@bbskoemi]

Mazda6 please, bring back the zoom zoom!

[@amycole5093]

Totally agree with everything said here: I very much want a sporty and powerful 6 as my next car; and the CX70 pricing is bizarre as listed. When nobody buys it they’ll have to come down 😂. Overall I love the company though- my husband and I have purchased 7 Mazdas in the last 25 years and loved them all! My current 2015 is still awesome with high mileage and no problems!

[@dlg5485]

Kirk, what are your thoughts on the fact that Mazda hasn't held a press event for the refreshed ND3 Miata? This is the most substantial update the ND has received, so I would expect them to do a press event for journalists, but the car is already on its was to North American showrooms, and I personally have a ND3 RF GT on order that is scheduled to be built next week, so it makes no sense to me that they haven't promoted the refresh in North America.

[@KirkKreifels]

Small volume car. They would probably lose a lot of money flying and lodging and feeding journos for a niche vehicle.

[@dlg5485]

@@KirkKreifels I guess that makes sense, but I still figured they might put a few cars in circulation with journalists, even without holding a dedicated promotional event. Mazda is a small player in a big game, so it's probably is just about cost.

[@oldkid6]

where are all the other models and trims? i need more choices for crissakes

[@dioralcide8490]

Customers better wait for the redesign CX5

[@2004cyrus]

Not going to happen. I was at Mazda today and they the CX-70 was the eventual replacement and CX-5 is phasing out. I’m not sure if they are right but that’s what they said they were told my their area manager on some zoom meetings

[@ag4allgood]

Interesting that Mazda is doing so many SUVs. Appreciate the updates Kirk & glad to see Mazda sales are doing so well !

[@Roby9453]

Wish they come asap with a new CX-5 totally redesigned for 2025

[@andikahaikal]

I guess to shortened the rear is costlier than to elongate the rear?😙 they can make the cx8 & cx80 differs from cx5 & cx60 on the side profile & on the back but cx90 to cx70 they can't?😅

[@PastTime777]

I’m 59 and interested. The GF and I have a CX-30. We’re moving to Ocala to be with my daughter. The extra space and ability to tow are positives.

[@Soravia]

Mazda SP can put a generator attached straight to electric motor, and on Power Mode, use engine to go faster, and use battery for slow city mode. Then engine won't just sit there and drone like MX-30 Rotary Extender PHEV

[@tinohardy5697]

Any tweaks to smooth out the PHEV powertrain?

[@Jascadet]

I am with you on the CX-70 and CX-90. I kind of don't get the point. If it was supposed to be basically the same with a third row delete, why not just make a CX-90 with that option. You would just have more storage available. I know the styling is slightly different, but overall I am disappointed. But, I don't care now anyway, I am waiting to see what happens with Mazda 6. I have a 2004 Mazda 6 now and love it, it's my baby. I have done a lot of custom work on it. I really wanted a Mazdaspeed 6 back in the day, but couldn't afford a new one at the time. I have been waiting for years for an all wheel drive version of the 6 to come out. So if this happens, I know my next car. If they make a higher output version like you mentioned, I will be super happy. I am wondering if they might end up doing that, but only have it rear wheel drive manual or something though. I want AWD, I refuse to buy a new car without it. I am happy with having an automatic, but manual would be fine as well. I am eyeing the Acura TLX Type S, and want a new car in the next couple years, so I will be keeping tabs on Mazda closely!

[@leeedens9497]

It would seem like the CX-90 is the better buy, the CX-70 is 5k too high

[@FLEXNIVORE]

My last 2 vehicles have been Mazda 3, and wifey owns the CX-9… we love our cars for the feel, look and overall performance. Would love to upgrade wifey to cx-70 since 3rd row is no longer needed, and I’ll continue to patiently wait for that Mazda 6! 2025 is going to be a great year! 🤪🙌🏾

[@MichaelSchneiderTexas]

These online colors look much different in real life than on a computer screen. The zircon sand is actually a pretty cool color on some of the other models.

[@cdashian777]

I'd love to see a cx30 refresh. . . Drove it once and preferred it's driving dynamics to the CX5

[@robertmurdock7530]

Thanks for some great info Kirk!

[@brucedowdy]

Great Info!!!Thank you!!!

[@TalismanPHX]

MAZDA 6 with the twin turbo 6..... and maybe a station wagon variant of the new 6 too? Mazda, are you listening?😊😮

[@styner3]

What a major disappointment, I passed up a good deal on a GLE waiting on the CX-70. I was looking to downsize in cost from my usual German SUV and a smaller CX-60 type SUV would have been perfect. The fact that it's the same price as the CX-90 is deal breaker. Unbelievable.

[@MattPSU02]

They did exactly what they should not have done. Pricing them the exact same is bizarre.

[@Quinton0520]

Mazda is not a luxury car brand and never will be! they already tried that and failed! Also the cx70 is wayy too large for a 2 row suv!

[@kduff85]

This CX70 pricing is wild to me. Who is this vehicle for?

[@davewilson7602]

Old people without kids, although I feel like an RX or a Murano if they have a lesser budget already suit that market I’m gonna guess this is super low volume or they’ll kill it after low sales, which isn’t the worst for them since they didn’t put any separate engineering into this other than a third row delete

[@LoveToCode7]

Great news! I love my 2017 Mazda 6 GT. It's my 6th Mazda after 2 Proteges, 1 2007 MazdaSpeed 3, 1 Mazda 3 and a 2014 Mazda 6. I was starting to search for a replacement and was "settling" for a 2025 Toyota Camry XSE, but will hold off until further news on the next-generation Mazda 6. Crossovers aren't for me and I'm not "downgrading" to a Mazda 3 again. I was sad to leave Mazda as a loyal customer, but these news will make me wait.

[@marclemar]

Honestly, with the pricing of the new Rivian that’s been announced it’s making it a hard case for me in the CX 70 but I really wanted

[@davidanderson-22]

Yes! Mazda6 news is very welcome.

[@Jmort93]

At least the CX-70 has more under floor storage. That is more valuable to some buyers than a third row they may never use.

[@styner3]

Not for the same cost as the CX-90

[@njswampfox474]

Really. Who?

[@thunderjenkins920]

I wish they would bring back the Mazda millennium or 929 that would be the large luxury car.

[@2004cyrus]

Those are beautiful models. So ahead of their time. My parents who are 75 owned both of them back in the early 90’s for about 6 years.

[@patriciapitts3505]

Been asking them to bring back the millenia or make the 6 the size of the millenia just wider and luxurious

[@c-square7375]

I really like the design of both the CX-90 and CX-70: long hood and flat side panels, yet artfully sculpted. Somewhat reminiscent of the big sedans of the 30s like Duesenbergs.

[@franciscourbina7113]

The prices on the CX-90 were lowered to meet the prices of the just introduced Mazda CX-70. Basically you'll get better standard equipment in the CX-70 for the same trim level of a CX-90 in exchange for not having third row seating.

[@Salazar824]

Woahh! What a let down. Price wise and also with the vehicle itself. At home my wife and i had the cx 9 we traded for the cx 90 i love it, then our lease for the cx 30 is coming up I was thinking about the cx 70, but now after this no way.

[@mbenton6]

Looks like the turo s PP is the cx70 is cheaper of $4,000. Also, i do nit see artisan red?

[@olegnesvirskyy8775]

You are right. Cx-60 cheaper diesel option with 200hp is RWD and 250hp one is AWD

[@PowerMacG14]

I think an updated Mazda 6 with a wagon option would be enough. Not sure if I am a fan of a RWD Mazda 6. I almost bought one, but I couldn't find one that wasn't too high on miles or too old.

[@l.seventh7954]

If this was going to happen then Mazda should have just offered the CX90 with a third row delete option instead, and then for a standalone model, have the CX70 as a identical size but redesigned CX60. Could have been among the best in the compact luxury SUV segment.

[@l.seventh7954]

Here what could have been: Mazda could have made the CX70 sized identical CX60, which if equivalent to the overseas car equipment-wise, would have had the options below: -Nappa Leather seating -Heated & Ventilated Front Seats -Heated rear seats If you want a car in this segment that has these, you’ll either have to sacrifice one of these, or you’ll have to get a car with a Transverse FWD platform. Even the big 3 German luxury makers (BMW, Mercedes, and Audi) don’t have a compact luxury SUV that has all of these features in one car. If we had a CX60-identical car in the U.S., we’d be able to have a car in this segment with a top-class option list while having a great driving longitudinal RWD platform while having the capability of achieving class-leading fuel economy figures.

[@ms.b9093]

@@l.seventh7954 Everyone was hoping the CX70 would be the size of the Euro CX60. Not everyone wants a gigantic SUV!!

[@l.seventh7954]

@@ms.b9093 Yeah, especially if the car is literally just around 1K less than the CX90. I was anticipating this car for months and I can’t even put into words how disappointed I was when I found out the truth about it.

[@lancenater3870]

Agreed. I was looking forward to the CX70 release. I was not looking forward to a CX90 with a 3rd row delete. I have a 2020 Mazda 3 sport. Great car. I also have a 2017 AMG GLC43. Also a great car. My hope was a CX70 to replace the AMG. Sadly that will not happen

[@l.seventh7954]

@@lancenater3870 Although it’s larger than what I wished for, if it turns out to be fun to drive then I’ll consider it.

[@daniellugo265]

Any updates on the possibility of equipping a future Mazda 3 HB with the Toyota 2.0 or 2.5L hybrid engine? Would it weigh too much compared to its current engine and take away even more handling? If they could get 200-230hp and 30-45mpg…that would be a nice sweet spot for a future Mazda 3.

[@ms.b9093]

MAZDA just needs to get fully into the hybrid game already! They are so far behind!

[@cameronekaw8700]

Just a thought, would Mazda consider the CX-60 as a replacement for the CX-5 in North America? Thinking that may reduce the backlash of the CX-70 controversy...🙂

[@markcoopers1930]

I'm confident if they made a mazda6 styled exactly as the current 3 sedan but with the longer hood/rwd proportions of the large platform they'd have an instant hit on design alone. The '21 mazda6 still had some of those 2016 "restart" design traits (like that chrome strip on the trunk, interior layout, etc) hanging on and aging it. Which made the 3 sedan the closest we ever got to the vision coupe concept (silver). As far as engine the cx-90 powertrains will be pretty potent in a vehicle significantly smaller and lighter. Starting power of 280hp & 332 lbsft, TurboS @ 340 hp and 369lbs feet... plus a phev? I mean Honda Accord and Camry aren't even in the conversation. I'd actually like to see (either in a mazda6 or as the entry powertrain in an RX esque sports coupe positioned above the Miata) the inline 6 removed of their turbos, tuned for higher revs and hp with less torque, and paired to a 6 speed (280 to 300 naturally aspirated hp from an inline 6 in a midsize rwd manual sedan or supra sized sports coupe wouldn't be something to ignore). High torque is what disintegrates manual transmissions, and earning hp from higher revs can add a lot of enjoyment. And for reference the Supra starts at 255hp from a turbo-4 auto.

[@essspada64]

Maybe it’s just me, but I always been in love with the newer Mazda 3 front design. I always felt like it would be an instant hit design wise to have that big low and thinner grill out on the 6, but that’s just me. Looks more sleek and sportier

[@RedsoxVenom]

Something he didn't really mention... it's a bit misleading to just compare trim names and their prices between 70 and 90. If you look on the press release or builder the number of trims were reduced from 11 to 7, and with that comes more features at each level. For example - you're getting almost every feature on the base Turbo S trim for 52k that you would have gotten for 59k on the top Turbo S trim of the 90. Only major thing it's missing is the brown/orange seats.

[@amoszander047]

So what will be different if you just fold the 3rd row of cx90? I wanted that blackout cx70 but 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@DarkMerchant2222]

What kind of bogus pricing is this? The basic cx-90 is 39k now because it ain’t selling. How can a car with one less seating row, literally the same car cost more? Their pricing strategy, ugh.

[@crawfordjason]

At this point, I anticipate a "new model" called the Mazda4, which will essentially be the same as the Mazda6 but without the back seats. However, they'll likely retain the rear doors, similar to how they kept the 3rd-row cup holders in the CX-70.

[@ibanezmakki]

Kirk! Any chance the Mazda 6 might get a manual transmission? I would be head over heels to get a 300hp+ rwd midsize JDM sedan here in North America! If they market and price it right it could be a huge hit!

[@joanaowens]

I do not understand the CX 70 strategy. I was waiting to see where pricing would land but after seeing this, I will be getting either a X3 or a Q5 Sportback instead.

[@winstondeocampo699]

CX 70 is a massive fail for Mazda now that pricing has been revealed. What were they thinking???🤔

[@mistertee5000]

the same pricing is going to make this such a fail. people will buy the higher model for the status even if they don't need the 3rd row (3-row SUVs also have higher resale value). the 90 is also nicer looking in and out. i hope they surprise us with a cx-60 one day to make up for this.

[@TimmyRollins08]

Maybe I’m missing something or the only one noticing the difference. On Mazda’s website, the base Preferred Trim CX70 is a much of hybrid. The base CX90 is a ICE. Perhaps that’s why it’s more expensive. The CX70 on their website is either hybrid or PHEV only.

[@boristeplitskiy7632]

If they launch a cx70 with 400hp I’d consider it

[@NeoGee]

The CX-70 doesn't really make sense to me, especially in light of the CX-60 which we aren't getting in the US. The 70 was said to come here because the 60 was too small. But compared to the 50 the 60, while the 60 is only an inch longer it's wheelbase is over 2 inches longer.

[@gamelauncher9821]

I have too admit the two new colors MELTING COPPER METALLIC and ZIRCON SAND METALLIC are gorgeous but $59k fully load is crazy for two rows. Give me the updated front end on the CX-90 then I’m good

[@njswampfox474]

The CX-70 doesn't come in artisan red, the best color for the CX-90 by far

[@bluearcherx]

there is so much to hate about these configurations that I don't even know where to start. I waited 2 years for this garbage.

[@bobbyjones2112]

Not a lot of young couples that don’t have children yet are gonna be spending $70,000 on a vehicle. There will be some people that have that kind of money, but I would guess a majority will not have that kind of money that early in their careers to spend on a vehicle.

[@kevinchen2948]

Agreed, there was an article about a couple who went into deep debt because they bought a $70k KIA EV9 on a $90K salary. Poor financial decisions aside, these new car prices are getting ridiculous and it’s frankly unsustainable

[@chhoyla]

@@kevinchen2948That article was awful. They didn’t go into deep debt, and they could absolutely afford the car especially because their rent was so cheap. It was a nothing burger unless we’re talking about different stories.

[@steveguillory7568]

Not sure I get your point. Base price is $40k. Wait for the base model. Still has plenty of features

[@markcoopers1930]

Good thing they can still buy the vehicle new and pay almost half of that. Is there something I missed where the price of all units of a model is that of the top trim with all options, a service package, plus sales tax, then rounded up?

[@Striker50_]

This car starts at 37k

[@DM72513]

Something happened to the CX-90 pricing on the web site. It’s now a lot cheaper. Whether they did that intentionally or not is for you to find out but the CX-90 trims got dropped to match these CX-70 trims. Could be a mistake by the web site? Could be they’re lowering the price of the vehicle mid year?

[@InexplicableBill]

Regarding the return of the 6, I think the renderer of that image is off. It's seldom that renderers nail an actual Mazda model pre-release. Interesting stab at the dimensions though - it's shown as 2" longer, 2" wider and the same height as my current vehicle - 2015 Lexus GS 350 F-Sport AWD. Yes please Mazda!! That extra 2 inches could make for a useable back seat. Mine is very tight, especially for my tall family. My 6'-3" and 6'-5" sons love my car, but only from the perspective as a front seat passenger or driver. But yeah, I've dreamed of Mazda coming back with an AWD Mazda 6S, rear-drive with AWD options, and though I know it's not at all likely I'd LOVE to see a return to a 6-speed manual!! A guy can dream. 😉

[@AmanRajput01]

Plugin hybrid in Canada has only 2 trims of cx70 and the top trim gets body coloured cladding 😮

[@Jana-x1n5h]

Auto insurance increases with third row seats.

[@rlsedition]

Why didn't Mazda just delete the 3rd row seat on the Cx-90 as an option? The CX-70, as currently priced, makes no sense.

[@JK-rh1rv]

I sure hope they make a new Mazda 6, I would buy one for sure if it looked like the one you showed in this video!

[@hinglawrencelau5045]

it would make more sense if it comes with the adaptive suspension system.

[@princea9615]

We have had 3 Mazdas currently we have a 3 turbo sedan that we love great brand good quality.

[@GoofieNewfie]

So they messed this cx70 up entirely. Wrong size, wrong price and filled with reliability issues since its basically a cx90. Better off going Toyota which has a much better hybrid.

[@njswampfox474]

Better off just getting the CX-90

[@stevennguyen3240]

Its a lot but please chuck in a manual into the future mazdaspeed/msr 6 with the i6

[@PineappleGamesTV]

Are these being assembled in USA or Japan?

[@cleverdood]

This is nuts. In Canada the CX-70 GS-L inline 6 is 5K MORE expensive than the Cx-90 GS-L inline 6. ???

[@daneharris2242]

I just saw that . First thought came to my mind was if this is an error or something on the website . No way this is selling more expensive than the cx90

[@cleverdood]

@@daneharris2242 Oops, turns out there is no base model (GS) in Canada for the CX-70. Comparing the GS-L versions of both the 90 and 70, they're basically the same price. Weird they'd have no base model on what should be a cheaper vehicle.

[@miketwotwenty]

I’m hoping that the upcoming rx sports car looks more similar to the Mazda rx vision concept that came out in 2015!

[@aksakalo]

CX-70 is the disappointment of the year.

[@kurtgrundel4045]

Disappointed that the CX70 wasn’t smaller and similar to the 60 but it becomes encouraging that it he 60 platform may be the foundation of the next 6.

[@chowchow3335]

quite confused on the cx70, people buy big SUV because of third row seating, not sure who are their target customer? Genisis GV70 and Lexus RX buyers?