Semi Float Dana 60 Ring and Pinion Install; How To Best Axle for Jeep JK

[@GlassFoxGear]

I used to watch this guy work on offroaders when I was in high school, I'm glad he still does. I don't ask for much

[@gunnerblood3253]

I’m an 18 year old gear head and he’s one of the reasons I’m into cats and trucks in the first place

[@BigTireGarage]

Glad to hear!!!

[@OjaiBonsai]

Cats?

[@brandonscarfe8803]

he probably meant (cars)

[@kevinkc3onohelijeepworld953]

Finally a Vid that shows a properly built up Dana Axel Congratulations 🎉 😊 now Colt and Merlin know how to do it right 😊

[@BigTireGarage]

You gotta have all the tools to do it right....and the knowledge to know when to use what tools

[@kevinkc3onohelijeepworld953]

@@BigTireGarage absolutely mainly why I love Chrysler corporate axels with the side adjusters for side preloading. Wish Dana would switch to side adjusters. Be very careful spreading cases .005-.007 max, if you over stretch it, it’s done can not fix it ☺️

[@BigTireGarage]

I have broken them in the past...its crazy how fast it can go wrong!!!

[@IdExplorMor]

I like and totally agree with your "mild build", because there are a ton of people that daily that same offroading rig, and tons don't always make sense for everyone...it becomes a huge laundry list of extras.

[@freeidaho-videos]

Good episode. BTW, I saw how much help you were to many off-roaders on EJS. It wasn't me, but thank you for being that helpful guy!

[@BigTireGarage]

Glad to help!

[@MrMonte802]

I just watched you on a trail ride with lite brite and I was super impressed with your ability to diagnose vehicle issues! Keep going brother, can’t count how many of your videos I have watched.

[@BigTireGarage]

Thanks, will do!

[@strykerentllc]

Great tutorial Ian. Waited for Zelda to photobomb you but apparently she was busy taking a nap. LOL Keep them coming dude, as the videos are 100% enjoyable and informative. Cheers!

[@BigTireGarage]

She makes a guest appearance in the next one

[@jominator3187]

The explanation on pinion depth with the math showing measured depth vs needed depth for the housing was extremely helpful for my understanding. Easily the best explanation on this I’ve seen.

[@BigTireGarage]

Thanks

[@AtlasOffRoad]

Great episode, Ian. I've been watching your stuff for years! You're a big reason i have an offroad shop now.

[@BigTireGarage]

Great to hear!

[@supertrucker200]

this is why you make the big bucks

[@pyro323]

Ian, love content but that red brake caliper hanging by it's hose was killin me..

[@BigTireGarage]

The braided hoses are tough

[@chrismccotter5351]

I already miss seeing that Jeep on my way to/from work while it was in Tucson. A unique and classic build that should be a Jeep production rig.

[@BigTireGarage]

That's awesome that you saw it in the dirty T...my son loved having it there

[@albertmccoy9639]

Thank you never seen axe done this way spreader is cool

[@BigTireGarage]

Glad you liked it

[@HillSideKonnection]

First Ian vid I've seen since I watched PowerNation back in the (RIP) Jessi days

[@Baltimorons762]

Great advice on threadlocking the caliper bracket to axle bolts. I had one work loose in the front and destroy a wheel.

[@BigTireGarage]

Me too on a rear wheel

[@johntotten4872]

Thanks Ian, your videos are always educational and entertaining. I have been watching you for years, keep up the great work.

[@BigTireGarage]

Thanks, will do!

[@lhurst9550]

21:00 Hmmm, learned something. I have always placed the carrier shims between the housing and bearing race, where the factory puts them. Noticed the factory always used one shim the correct thickness, and when putting in an aftermarket gear set they give you all these thin shims. Way easier to pound in one, exactly right, thick shim. This always bothered me, now I know how to get around that. thks.

[@BigTireGarage]

Glad I can help

[@frankgyomoryjr6167]

Case spreader- sounds like something they used on my son's teeth braces!

[@beforedawn1065]

I wish I could find someone to do my axels with your level of precision. Let me send you my gladiator lol

[@mattbrew11]

Where do you live?

[@sylvain-paulcote5470]

Wish I could give more than 1 "like"!

[@me_n_my_jeep]

Great advice on the axle swap. Alot of costs beyond the axle in a 1 ton swap .

[@BigTireGarage]

Truth....and most people don't think about that

[@zmotorsports62]

Glad you see to use a case spreader. I purchased mine back in the 80's when I first started building axles and is the only way I put an axle together. There are multiple companies offering them nowadays and their price has come down substantially from what I paid for mine 35+ years ago.

[@BigTireGarage]

I had a bad experience with one once back in canada when i started in the trade....got a little "excited" ad broke a Dana 60 in half

[@zmotorsports62]

@@BigTireGarage yeah, a guy can definitely go too far and cause damage is not familiar using them.

[@StormbornJKU]

It’s impressive what you can do with a “mild” built jeep. So many people think tons and 40s is the only option because that’s what social media shows them.

[@BigTireGarage]

Truth

[@shanewright6958]

Another great video 👍👍

[@johnnykirkland611]

Love your videos very informative 👍

[@BigTireGarage]

Glad you like them!

[@thomasbyrne7770]

Amazing amount of tech info. Great Presentation. Thanks, Tom Byrne

[@BigTireGarage]

Glad it was helpful!

[@jeepguy1337]

I’d like to see someone build a full floater rear jk axle with the 24+ rubicon rear shafts and bearings.

[@BigTireGarage]

I don't know how you would do that

[@zakaroonetwork777]

10:08 Did you Torque the Pinion Nut? What about the magnet you had in there while measuring... ?

[@BigTireGarage]

I don't normally leave tools inside vehicle components after using them.

[@timking2194]

Great video

[@BigTireGarage]

Thanks for watching!

[@DeadMan-hk1mh]

Awesome work as usual Ian! I have been watching you since the extreme days and I know how hard the work is you do and I wanted to ask, how are you feeling these days? How’s your body holding up? Keep up the awesome content! Take care

[@BigTireGarage]

Getting older makesnit tougher...but ya gotta maintain if you want to live in the shop...

[@jonb-h2z]

I wish he would make more videos

[@BigTireGarage]

Make em when I can...busy busy

[@brianarnoets2936]

Thank you Ian, very good and informative video

[@BigTireGarage]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@Sac_Jeep]

Good width for TJ axles that isn’t JK width but still leaves room for future upgrades like coilovers or struts. I remember all big axle mfg’s had a 63.5 width. Still relevant today? Wanting to go SpiderTraxs if that helps with “off the shelf” vs custom.

[@MartinRodriguez-yr4gf]

i was wondering about using a housing spreader. I've done it in the past. They also make a pinion depth indicating tool that if you use aftermarket gears, you can read the correct installed depth and be right thr first time

[@BigTireGarage]

I use a depth tool in this video

[@newcosr67]

Great video! Learned a lot, thanks Ian!

[@BigTireGarage]

Glad to hear it!

[@dogpotter]

Thanks for sharing really enjoy watching you vids

[@BigTireGarage]

Glad you like them!

[@orocovisrockcrawleroffroad379]

Hi,Great tutorial video.

[@BigTireGarage]

Glad you liked it

[@JoeyWales]

Thanks for the great content.

[@BigTireGarage]

Thanks for watching!!!!

[@MUCKFOOT399]

its easy, i did this in the parking lot at Walmart

[@jackcash2864]

are you going to run a dana 44 in the front

[@BigTireGarage]

Yep...leaving the 44 up front...adding rcv's and some truss in the future

[@justincrook8257]

There are a couple of aftermarket axle companies now making JK D60 set 80, 5 on 5 axles. Any reason you chose Currie?

[@johngrant1337]

great video , thanks

[@BigTireGarage]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@MrRobertSpearsJr]

thank you, great content !!

[@BigTireGarage]

My pleasure!

[@tom_buljat]

Ian… Here lately I have been seeing quite few videos on portals in my feeds. I am skeptical about them. I would love to hear your thoughts, pro and cons, and are they worth the price.

[@BigTireGarage]

Yes and yes...I have a Portal build coming on my new Discovery show this year

[@marcaubertin4165]

Hi, quick question, do you pre-oil the bearing before calculating drag torque on the pinion and backlash? Thanks in advance, great tutorial!

[@BigTireGarage]

Yes...all bearing gets gear oil...if the axle is gonna sit for a while before the project gets finished....I cover them in bearing grease

[@dragoperini1628]

I read that you are planning to use a Dana 44 in the front with RCV's and a truss, will that be enough strength for the mild build you are doing on this Jeep?

[@BigTireGarage]

Yep...all day long

[@iddddaduncan]

Great episode! Were you a mechanic in a past life?

[@BigTireGarage]

Yep..Mechanic, then shop teacher, then TV guy

[@the_ure]

Did i see an uncredited load bolt?

[@BigTireGarage]

You know I don't know....I think a lot of Dynatrac axles have one so maybe

[@thepeeve]

How much was it from Currie for the basic housing?

[@BigTireGarage]

The do not offer that to the "public" only fully assembled axles

[@zakaroonetwork777]

Why Not use Gear Old to Lube the Carrier installation? So you don't have to spread it and Hammer it as much.

[@BigTireGarage]

Not why it is tight...it is tight because of carrier bearing preload

[@scottgalyk8970]

Doesn't taking it in and out put wear and tare on it affecting the part and the way it fits

[@BigTireGarage]

No....you are essentially pressing the bearing on and off.....

[@chrissavage6464]

Howdy I want to buy a welder and learn home fabrication and have enough welder to grow as skill does. I have a tj and I’m going to extend it to lj lengths but pattern after a cj-6. Please recommend what you think as I’m clueless

[@BigTireGarage]

A great machine is this Rogue 190 Em

[@johnfulater2945]

What type of locker was used in this build? I did not see any connections for it.

[@BigTireGarage]

It's a Yukon Grizzy locker...a Mechanical locker

[@dhrracer]

What about the frame brackets and the links?

[@BigTireGarage]

I might swap it to a long arm kit in the future...looking at the RPM Steering kit

[@dhrracer]

@@BigTireGarage would you be doing anything you the frame mounts?

[@BigTireGarage]

Not needed unless you are upgrading suspension.. the axle brackets are way thinner from the factory...and rocks eat em up

[@mattbrew11]

@@BigTireGaragenow you know rockkrawler and genright are the two to choose from come on brotha.

[@HoldMyBeerJeeping]

So I am looking at the possibility of doing this. I am also in a 2 door JK Rubicon Hard Rock Edition. Looking to go to 37's. Currently have 35's with factory Dana 44's front and back and 3.5" RK Lift w/ adjustable control arms. Running the factory 4.10 ratio as well. My issue is I am not sure if I should just bite the bullet and go UD60 front and rear, or UD 60 rear, and PR44 front. Here's why. I plan to drop a Hemi in it later on, but it will be a few years. So my intention is to "future proof" it, so I do not have to buy stuff all over again. Wheels included, with the possibility of an 8 lug UD60. If I went ahead and did UD60 front and back, I have concerns about how hot the 3.6L Pentastar V6 might get. Any input? Loved the video!

[@BigTireGarage]

Man there is a lot to unpack with that list. It really depends on how you plan to "wheel" the jeep...if you keep your head on straight and stay off the skinny pedal when you are in a tough spot...it should be fine with the Rubicon front and semi float rear

[@HoldMyBeerJeeping]

@@BigTireGaragethanks! Yeah I know I threw a lot at ya there. Just trying to illustrate where I’ve been versus where I want to be. Love the content and the video! Thanks man!

[@HoldMyBeerJeeping]

@@BigTireGarage I am really more of a weekend warrior. But I do a mix of muddy terrain, with some rock krawling. With the jump to 37s, I am wondering if I could get by with ProRock 44's in front, and 60 semi float in the back. Just not sure.

[@jeffreycote1182]

Would that axle? Be a good substitute for a Suzuki samurai?

[@BigTireGarage]

Little big for that....yota axles all the way!!!

[@BillMulholland1]

👍

[@jeradmiller4575]

Where are these economical 1 ton swaps you speak of?

[@BigTireGarage]

You "could" get a one ton swap finished in a JK for under 10K if you did a lot of work yourself

[@phillipcraggs6202]

Not to say bigger isn't better, But a crate Dana 44 from most aftermarket suppliers would be more than sufficient for 37s. Good stuff though.

[@BigTireGarage]

Maybe....but I know a lot of people who have tore up the lockers and R and P in those crate 44's...start bouncing the JK (like they often do) and that rear axle is NOT happy

[@raystevens687]

Question hay that tool you where talking about can you rent that tool or do you buy it. And if have to buy it how much does it cost ware do you buy it from.

[@BigTireGarage]

The case spreader? If you are getting into doing gears buy one...you never know when you might need it...you can get em on Amazon

[@tsvw2007]

Whatever happened to your vw bug build

[@BigTireGarage]

Still have it still working on it

[@Thexkidd]

Is the diff bigger than the dana 44. I’ve seen a 60 with 37s and the diff is bigger and getting hung up.

[@BigTireGarage]

The Housing is slightlyblarger...but being the semi float vs a full float 60 it is smaller than a 1 Ton..full float....but bigger than the 44 for sure

[@Thexkidd]

@@BigTireGarage thank you for answering my question.

[@kg1211]

What front axle is under that jeep?

[@BigTireGarage]

J8 Dana 44

[@robertquackenbush5547]

Rock crawling isn't off roading off reading is more dirt and hills and water holes and a lot less body damage

[@BigTireGarage]

Disagree

[@adamm2716]

hey man i roasted you on fb when you went out on your own, you probably never saw it but anyway i'm older now and wanted to say i respect your skills.

[@BigTireGarage]

Don't remember that, but it's all good everyone is entitled to an opinion.

[@adamm2716]

@@BigTireGarage cool

[@shawnslocum6850]

Hey Ian this is Sean Slocum out of Manchester Tennessee I've got an 04 Jeep Grand Cherokee that has seized up I need a motor put into it I am handicapped and can't do it physically and can't financially afford it can you help

[@jeepanimal2943]

SEE!!! That's the way a Jeep pickup is supposed to look. @2 EFFING Doors! Not 4! Of course the 37's too. BUT only two effing doors! Somebody call Jeep and show 'em this. They still can't figure it out.

[@BigTireGarage]

That's why I built it!!! Love this truck!!!

[@mattbrew11]

While I agree with the point of your comment, look at the truck market. There’s not one single midsize truck for sale today with a regular cab and there are two trims that barely sell in extra cab configuration. Less than 7 percent of wranglers are 2 doors.

[@zachburrows9842]

FINISH THE COMANCHE

[@BigTireGarage]

I will I promise...tge TV stuff just takes priority

[@ratkillaummuguma420]

$5-7,000 a piece for axles is so far from economical it makes me wanna cry😢

[@BigTireGarage]

Didn't say it was economical, I said it was a good option for the JK...one tons are 15-20K...Just yard one tons would maybe be 10K...off roading ain't cheap

[@hillarylevenworth8824]

You most certainly "dropped" the ring gear and carrier!!!

[@hillarylevenworth8824]

In too deep.

[@BigTireGarage]

I always just drop em in....it is the easiest way

[@wvjeepguy8178]

Yeah....for 7k I'll just build a superduty 60 front and 14 bolt rear and still have money left over. That tax on guys without a welder is real.

[@BigTireGarage]

I can see that option being a good one...but then ya have to plan for new wheels...steering....and probably new tires

[@wvjeepguy8178]

@@BigTireGarage That's true, and although I've only built a few rigs which comes nowhere close to the number and quality of rigs you've built, I learned the hard way to just do it right the first time as it ends up being the most cost effective solution in the long run.

[@buddyeast1928]

What stinks is all the manufacturers don't off a basic locker. It's ARB or E-Locker. What about us simpletons that just want a regule Detroit or Grizzly locker front and rear.

[@BigTireGarage]

This one is a Grizzly "Detroit" style locker

[@teranitupfpv]

I ran a grizzly locker for awhile and it did work pretty damn good but now that I run arb lockers I don't think I could go back, being able to fully unlock does make the drive more predictable I don't have to have that go round a corner with maybe to much throttle feeling "thought" haha

[@BigTireGarage]

Yeah it can get a little "spicy" on the street

[@simplefixittricks2059]

First...what did i win

[@BigTireGarage]

I will send ya shirt...shoot me an email [e-mail]

[@simplefixittricks2059]

@BigTireGarage I sent you a email

[@xTinBenderX]

Gladiator JT to JK rear brake upgrade kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6fSqIGKm9mhfM0si=GpQjLbKd5QTYj5H2

[@BigTireGarage]

That's pretty cool

[@btacmcbride]

Odd mix… $7k for axels = serious … Craftsman tools = 😂

[@BigTireGarage]

What makes Craftsman any different than any other tool company nowadays

[@mikegreer9041]

Most people would be making their dana 60 from an old full float axle. You can buy the bearing stubs and make them whatever width you want, and buy axles. 99 percent of the people watching this don't have the money to buy a custom axle. These stupid shows are just advertising.

[@BigTireGarage]

Wrong....you don't know the jeep market

[@mattbrew11]

Ridiculous comment. Most people watching this can’t weld well enough to trust that swap or have the skills, PATIENCE and tools to set gears.

[@FreddyFunderbunz]

Gd, the repetitive, awful music, ruins this vid