Black Widow - Clumsy, Dumb and Disappointing

[@TheCriticalDrinker]

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[@trizz1350]

Watch attack on titan

[@jeffgrey2746]

Do a review for dark city directors cut!

[@milktea6676]

Wow that was fast Also first furry

[@leonardceres9061]

I gotta say. I love your fresh honest no BS takes on movies and pop culture. But during the opening moments of this video you said something along the lines of “one of marvels most beloved characters…” I read thousands of comics in the 90’s during marvels heyday. Black Widow was always more of a background character. She had moments here and there sure. But was never a major player. I feel like the MCU in this day and age felt like they needed more stronger female characters and when scarlet took the role of Widow and the writers didn’t totally eff up on her character, then all of a sudden she became this major presence. That she never was… I mean in the world of Marvel and comics in general she isn’t even a true superhero. She would be classified as enhanced. Thanos could have flicked a booger at her with such speed and force that it would turn her into atoms. Let that sink in. Because in a particle accelerator a particle the size of a grain of sand colliding with another similar minute-object can create antimatter. Or At least a big effing explosion. Especially since Thanos could throw objects at around re-entry speeds.

[@TwillzDGawd]

Evelyn o'Connell never hurt nobody sir.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@khfan4life365]

“It’s just like Budapest all over again!” “You and I remember Budapest very differently.” The movie we should have gotten.

[@toneman8478]

Yeah I thought for sure Hawkeye would be in this.

[@OfStarrySkiesandFireflies]

Exactly! This would’ve been a MUCH more interesting story than “oh guess what happened after civil war?”

[@themarsman5155]

I honestly thought that was what movie would be about, giving a more meaningful emotional loss to when you see black widow die, since it will build on the relationship between Clint and Natasha

[@Nangalad]

@@toneman8478 He was mentioned after the end credits. Yelena is tasked to kill Hawkeye and that will be a plot of "Black Widow but not so much Black Widow 2" i assume.

[@subzfit]

I think the movie should have been "Hawkeye and Black Widow" where they reference Budapest through flashbacks and deal with the demons and consequences of what happened in Budapest.

[@cadengericke5652]

They had an opportunity to make a really dark spy movie featuring Natasha. But marvel blew it with the typical whole save the world plot. It was really good in the beginning but then towards the middle I kept rolling my eyes.

[@UhOhUmm]

I thought the beginning was a joke too. They tried to show that whole experience of a fake family and make it heartbreaking, but it was just strange and poorly timed. Overall this movie was written in the wrong theme. It should have been the Black widow version of Winter Soldier. A dark gritty drama with her learning that the program isn't over. And it also should have been more down to earth when it comes to effects, Atomic Blonde comes to mind.

[@willobrien8325]

its a fucking comic book. thats what comic book characters do.....they save the world. write your own god damn movie then

[@alexcinx]

@@willobrien8325 “wRiTe YoUr OwN gOdDaMn MoViE tHeN” Yeah no, we are the audience, we are paying to watch this. If it sucks we have every right to criticize it.

[@LAMODÉLISTE]

@@willobrien8325 you haven’t read all bw comics. It’s dark. Darker than you’ll ever know. That’s why most of us comics fans are disappointed because they ruined such a beautiful character with a beautiful story arc.

[@willobrien8325]

@@LAMODÉLISTE just stop...

[@facelessjake9842]

Black widow : the red room is impossible to find IS LITERALLY A FLYING FORTRESS THE SIZE OF ASGARD

[@davidmclean9972]

I found this weird too. Surely, on a beautiful cloudless day you would notice a big assed flying fortress in the sky.

[@mathewchild2492]

@@davidmclean9972 I thought perhaps maybe it made it's own clouds, somehow - but then i was trying to make sense of the senseless

[@davidmclean9972]

If It did make its own clouds, it would still look damn weird on a clear sunny day why there are on clouds in one part of the sky.

[@TheScarletSlayer]

Didn't we have this same problem in captain marvel

[@ribby9069]

The part that bugged me is… you’ve told us every black widow is sedated before entering and leaving to keep it secret, and they’re MIND CONTROLLED but who are all these dozens of soldiers working on the base? Do they live there permanently? How could that possibly be kept secret? Are they all mindcontrolled too? I presume not, since we’re supposed to feel no guilt about their deaths It would’ve been much better if it had just been the widows up there, but I guess they needed faceless goons to beat up.

[@dare3266]

In the 90s scenes, Yelena holds a My Little Pony character that won't be invented until 2010.

[@awildsnorlax3075]

Never thought I'd be impressed by a strangers My Little Pony knowledge.

[@SansDaManz]

Not only that, she's holding a version of the character that won't exist until 2013

[@awildsnorlax3075]

@@SansDaManz Never thought I'd end up even more impressed a week later by a different stranger's My Little Pony knowledge one-upsmanship.

[@dare3266]

@@awildsnorlax3075 Oh yeah? Well how about this, My Little Pony didn't even create toys from 1992 to 1997 in the United States, and the movie doll appears in pristine condition (as well as not existing).

[@thirdplanet4471]

Maybe it's one of those alternative timelines

[@klxo14]

She should’ve survived the drop in Endgame according to what she went through in this movie

[@SpittingSEA]

You forgot the part that she sacrificed her soul for the soul stone to exist.

[@grelgen]

you don't know what she landed on... that could have been special soul stealing stone that no living being can withstand

[@JustChillingNahhhhMean]

Heheheh yesss

[@wonderboy5509]

this commet is not about how the fall is deep or what the ground is made of. It’s about mocking the stupid amounts of crazy stunts they pulling off and somehow surviving with no movements restraining injuries in Black Widow which are equal or even crazier than Furious movies.

[@terrarune]

Thank you.These chicks were just highly trained normal women with zappy fists not the terminators they failed to make them look like.

[@bravediomedes217]

I wonder how many more times they’re going to try their “masked man is actually a masked woman” bit.

[@nanakakitano9724]

Literally the first thing I assumed when Task Master first showed up in the film was that they were going to reveal it was *gasp* really a woman at some point towards the end of the film

[@cesar6447]

only assassins creed did it right

[@HaydenRising]

@@cesar6447 and legend of Zelda ocarina of time (or was it majoras mask I can’t remember)

[@karateparty100]

@@cesar6447 and Sky High, but I don’t think anyone else remembers that movie

[@johnnyb1505]

@@karateparty100 hell yeah

[@gochi6542]

What a waste of Taskmaster as a character, antagonist or otherwise. A badass assassin with photographic memory(or some shit like that) that allows them to perfectly copy the fighting styles of those they study. I mean cmon you can’t get much more Marvel than that.

[@merlin-ju6fu]

Over the past decade, Marvel Comics has been nerfing Taskmaster to a " meh whatever " level. So the movie is just a continuation of that.

[@MrTeamFoolish]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Taskmaster return. There's definitely room for it.

[@ronnordan7323]

Taskmistress never studied the weaknesses of a locked glass door. Cut her some slack.

[@blueguygaming1330]

Awesome profile pic I love Let it Die

[@little_dandelion]

@@MrTeamFoolish Of course, Disney had Palpatine to return, just like Snoke. So it wouldn't be any surprise if they recycle Taskmaster in a similar way.

[@wjzav1971]

Damn, when they hinted at Natasha having a dark past and having been turned to the good guys by Hawkeye, I was hoping to see that in a movie like Salt or Red Sparrow (and I don't even like Red Sparrow). Beats me why instead of an origin story they told a pointless spin-off side story.

[@chriswhinery925]

Beats me why they'd bother telling either story post Endgame. Anything having to do with Black Widow is something they should have done years and years ago BEFORE killing her off. The whole movie was pointless from the beginning even if it had been an origin story. And the people running the MCU knew it, which is why they gave the movie to a bunch of unqualified nobodies with no accomplishments. They made it to bolster the number of movies with a female lead and that's it. They didn't care if it was good or not, they just cared that it had a female lead, so why not hand it off to a bunch of nobodies who will work on the cheap cheap.

[@annexamv2776]

"Pointless Spin-off Side Story.".... sums it up, perfectly!

[@annexamv2776]

@@chriswhinery925 😰thanks for opening my eyes with your wise words, magic man :)

[@Zoroff74]

The scenes where Nat and Hawkeye are dealing with the sacrifice demanded by the soul stone, are the most deep and emotional in the entire MCU, and no one in production saw a point in working with that chemistry ever again... :-(

[@Tential1]

Red sparrow was at least coherent... This was not. It just jumped around.

[@willprae2992]

Made her Endgame demise a little less poignant since her superpower seems to be falling off things.

[@tomlevier3615]

They should have done a stripped down "Bourne Identity" style thriller movie, with Black Widow trying to disappear after the events of Civil War.

[@danielarcher369]

no, an R rated spy thriller with black widow super thriller suspense scenes and sex!

[@Pacbandit13]

@@danielarcher369 okay Jiayra

[@Bolter024]

@@danielarcher369 Agreed!

[@ryanatorryanson9535]

That would’ve been really good. Can’t have that.

[@zerodark3505]

Could’ve also been about the time between infinity war and endgame with hawkeye

[@HK-47E]

Said it once and i'll say it again: This movie should have come out before endgame for maximum emotional impact. Instead we got... that

[@RebornVengeancex]

Exactly

[@SheldonAdama17]

(Cue Sam Neill Event Horizon scream as we zoom in on Brie Larson)

[@smooveayy]

It should have come out way before!! Maybe after the 1st Avengers movie considering she was one of the main original cast. Captain Marvel should not have been the first female MCU superhero with her own movie when we didn't know/care about her

[@haku8135]

Actually, instead we got captain marvel.

[@bigduke5902]

Yeah you're really original in this opinion.

[@catherinepohlman6957]

You missed the bit about "severing the nerve" to kill Black Widow's sense of smell, with a bunch of hand gestures suggesting that there's one nerve that controls the sense of smell that for some reason runs down the middle of your forehead on the outside of your skull. The actual nerves controlling your sense of smell lie on the inside of your skull (funnily enough) and it takes major brain damage to destroy your sense of smell. If Black Widow had hit her head hard enough to sever those nerves, she'd have lost a lot more than her sense of smell... So that's two movies Scarlet Johansen has been in now where she should have been drooling on the floor.

[@haydenwhitbread724]

Maybe not breathing for a couple seconds while she unloads a clip into draykov would have been a smarter plan?

[@mayhemmcfly4229]

What's the first? Does she get drooling in Lucy? I can't remember..

[@mrbillsix]

@@mayhemmcfly4229 what a tease she is, haha.

[@justforever96]

And here i was thinking that the surgical head bashing was totally scientific and plausible. You crushed my illusions, i am devastated to find out that you can't actually sever your olfactory nerve by breaking your nose in a perfectly judged and executed table smash. I can't say for sure that that's the dumbest thing i ever saw on screen, but it gives that impression, thats for sure.

[@even1313]

Nevermind that the Taskmaster has the body structure of a male through out the entire movie. lol

[@nameless1881]

That's what irritates me the most , marvel mislead us with the trailers

[@subzfit]

Mate, I could see that too. That was clearly a man's body doing all the stunts. How dumb do they think we are?

[@15thobserver]

@@subzfit Very, they assume we are very dumb.

[@EvilDoresh]

They clearly subverted all of our expectations.

[@jamess.8279]

@@EvilDoresh subverting expectations truly elevate films from good to masterpiece level… it worked for Star Wars: The Last Jedi, in my opinion, which is objective. But it’s my opinion. The best subversion is when you expect a good movie but you get an amazing one! /s

[@chickuna7854]

When I was on my way to work, about a week ago, I heard an ad on the radio that said "Critics are saying that Black Widow is the best Marvel movie to date" and after hearing that I laughed so hard I almost crashed

[@josephsalmonte4995]

Translation: *Paid* Critics were told to say...

[@SC_eternal]

I literally think it's the same fucking guy from like 5 years ago who they just keep quoting

[@Serene903]

Don't be distracted gee,you would have died ,your life matters 🌸

[@chickuna7854]

@@Serene903 Thanks king

[@PKMN37]

That's why I don't trust these "professional" critics, anymore.

[@coath514]

The fact the widows have to give up their ability to have children is something pretty heavy they learn to live with. In this movie it's used as a punchline when Red Guardian asks if it's their "time of the month". What. The. Fuck.

[@stephw1702]

Thank you. I've seen so many people commenting how it's one of their favorite moments from the film. One article even called it "brave" and "a great blend of humor and insight into the horrors of the Red Room." Note to self: having a woman discuss such an event with someone she cares for in a mournful way = demeaning, stupid, and bad. Having a woman crack jokes about it because it doesnt matter while talking down to a man = brave, hilarious, and insightful

[@Whatsup_Abroad]

At least the lack of a womb made some room for that big green you know what I mean?

[@meti326]

I hated that scene too it was such a serious and sad Story and red guardian should feel what a bad thing he has done to the Girls.instead they make it loughable. What is it with Marvel and new Movies about there weird Moral.

[@GlynTaylor]

I think the scene worked well to start with, but it should of ended with showing that Yelena was deeply effected by it to the point her rage makes her unpredictable. Then by the end of the movie Yelena should be so broken by her brainwashing and abuse that she turned into a villain because she has blind rage against the whole world. But nah, just tell her hawkeye killed her sister. Dumb. She would of been an epic deep and complex villain

[@eli_are_ftw]

@@Whatsup_Abroad 😳

[@cosmicblip2862]

Gotta hand it to Scarlette tho , she remained consistent throughout the film , she just fell victim to bad writing , still she managed carry it till the end somehow .

[@sstrykert]

A payoff. Pretty easy motivation

[@random-jn8ec]

@R Coffee imo, this was the most illogical movie i ve seen in my entire life. She couldn't survive a fall, she survives 69420 explosions(near the bridge at night, blue car when taskmistress shoots the explosive arrow, in the red room, outside the redroom...), her sister was the most annoying thing to ever exist. Red Guardian was a logical, rational, intelligent person, who didn't get caught every goddamn time*sarcasm intensifies*, a floating castle as in fantasy/magic(cinderella, beauty and beast...) movies. Of course, they had to make all male characters either misogynist monsters or useless or bad or stupid dorks.

[@LAZZAMCPE]

She survived some questionable scenes lol

[@schoolboymakhaba7462]

I am your first comment pal, hit that like

[@fabiobaldan556]

This whole movie was a plot armor fest, and to make it worse we all know nothing is going to happen because is a prequel, so all the action scenes feel empty and lacks urgency/risk to the characters.

[@oneigboboy]

I personally counted 3 lol

[@editorjared]

I enjoyed the first act of the movie, but the stuff aboard the sky thingie was absurd. Nat could've doubled for Spider-Man the way she performed in the air up there.

[@19Derek82]

Umm.. it's a super hero movie, what did you expect? When you watched the hulk movie, did you really believe shit in that movie is really possible? No, but you watched it anyway. And do you guys really expect the main character to die right away? Lol

[@Nexus-6]

The Drinker's opening remarks, "Oh for fucks sakes.." Enough said..

[@leroyvermilion7708]

This guy doesn't like films with alot of action😒

[@route77productions]

It's basically every film he sees. At this point it's tiring, like go do yourself a favor and see some indie films. There are some good ones out there.

[@lukeskywalker6809]

Yeah, he had me at "for fucks sakes."

[@vvcreative2628]

@@leroyvermilion7708 *cough* *cough* Aliens 2 *cough* *cough* terminator 2 *Cough* *cough* Infinity war *Cough* *Cough* Predator Damn I think I'll get asthma.

[@gidondejong1802]

@@route77productions Mate I am glad you are not a film critic of any caliber, people that love movies and watch them for years pick up quite quickly when the quality gets dropped for some other reasons. They start to see the gaping holes in the story and other nonsense that makes no sense in the story arch.

[@Connor.SG-1Ring]

It would've been better have Taskmaster as a mercenary hired by General Ross to hunt and capture the remaining rogue members of the Avengers. That way, Black Widow is cought in a difficult situation where she has takedown the Red Room while also evading a deadly new opponent. While Dreykov's daughter Antonia would instead be revealed to not only have survived but is also the one who took control of the Red Room after her father died.

[@wiseguy3675]

I definitely like this idea better.

[@jamiemcaloon5548]

now this is writing, they should hire you.

[@slosubies4845]

As long as the ending was already, I totally expected the "red jizz" to have no effect on TaskMaster. I expected her to get up and be like "I didn't do this because I was being controlled..." It would have made much more sense if Dreykov controlled his daughter the old-fashioned way: through grooming, manipulation, and the promise of revenge. It also could have set up Taskmaster for the Thunderbolts, but it looks like we'll get Yelena instead. I like the character, but I was hoping to see Yelena in a new Avengers team with Sam/Cap instead of joining the Thunderbolts (aka Marvel's Suicide Squad).

[@damienhouse7706]

@@slosubies4845 YES! I wanted her to just keep attacking Nat, and have it be her saying that she still wants Nat dead.

[@VFFP54]

i bet you didnt spent more than 3 minutes to form this idea. but just look how superior it is to the actual plot of the movie.

[@XAMS]

Why do all the characters in the movie speak with a Russian accent when they spoke perfect English in the opening scene?

[@danwally14]

I mean, i used the term "speak with a Russian accent" very very loosely

[@DarkLight6Tv]

The Russian "accents" were cringe af...except for Yelena..

[@Aqquila89]

Why do they speak English among each other at all when their native language is Russian?

[@Aqquila89]

@Joker I didn't mean the time they were in the US, but later.

[@khfan4life365]

The Widows speak perfect English because they’re taught it practically at birth. In Agent Carter, we see a scene with the Red Room spy, Angie, learning English from Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. The same might be true for the Red Guardian but we never really got backstories on the Widow and Guardian programs. Only people who read the comics know who and what they represent. The movie was as vague as possible when it comes to the Red Room’s origins and the Red Guardian’s and Melina’s early history.

[@kids.cats.crazy.]

And here I thought we were going to see more about her upbringing, training, life before she joined SHIELD, so we would know exactly why the organization was so evil and show us how she came to be the person she was later. But nah, we’ll just do a lot of shooting and explosions and fights and stupid jokes, that’ll be fine.

[@Jimmy9298]

That's all Marvel has become now. They want all their characters to be fucking comedians, all witty and charming in the manner that Robert Downey Jr. portrayed Tony Stark. A supposed serious movie about assassins and a new world order, and they manage to fit a joke in every 2 minutes at least. It wouldn't even be as bad if they wrote good jokes too, but they don't. It's just cringe as fuck Tumblr-esque dog shit humor made for teenagers. What can you really expect though when Disney owns Marvel.

[@yevgeniyaleshchenko849]

@@Jimmy9298 I think WandaVision was pretty dark...

[@keondacook4387]

Thank you! I was so here for it but naw woke culture is king now 🙄

[@singhatishkumar]

@@Jimmy9298 yep they want everyone to be tony stark because he's popular

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

@@Jimmy9298 It came out too late. By the late 2010's, the MCU got too carried away with humour and were having too many moments of tonal whiplash. Her character got sacrificed in Endhame and just now they release her solo film?

[@ncwordman]

Most movies these days: "I wish they hadn't even bothered."

[@darthkek1953]

The Tomorrow War was okay. A mish-mash of better films but no agenda other than servicing a plot. I caught Daylight's End (2016) and it was pretty good, the best "I Am Legend" since Omega Man. The Outpost is pretty amazing.

[@anonymous3637]

The Drinker video is better than the actual movie 90% of the time

[@amberslahlize7961]

@@leroyvermilion7708 What? You don't think movies today are generally really lack-gluster and watered down? Sure there have been a few good hits, but the majority of them have been either eh or less then that.

[@ncwordman]

@@anonymous3637 "The Drinker video is better than the actual movie 90% of the time" At least 90%. I watched his videos on movies/TV shows I'd never go near: Charlie's Angels! Batwoman! And watched them multiple times.

[@Vollification]

All I think about is the money and time that is wasted :(

[@BaronR]

Me, a Taskamster fan: "I sure hope my boi gets a nice adaptation in the MCU!" *Somewhere in the world a Monkey's paw finger curls*

[@TheMaestroMizerous]

And you'll never see me coming...

[@dhilipans5412]

Task master in the animated spiderman show was better the one with super nova and the white tiger girl luke cage and the other guy

[@jonathand.4088]

Looks like they really didn't want to have a competent male adversary

[@Jonkenstonk]

That show was my childhood.

[@Bigbean2999]

Yeah i don't understand what was wrong with the white fit he had

[@TheDeadsideofYouTube]

The MCU unfortunately has become the Call of duty of movies, in way that its copy paste with too many of the same beats, but with a new skin.

[@russiankodiak6849]

Facts COD = MCU

[@sup9542]

Phase 2 is a copy/paste of Phase 1 but with women substituted for men, and heavy feminist themes, "men are all awful" and "women are all victimized, but no more, we won't take it anymore." And all these women happen to be extremely attractive and therefore the most privileged people on the planet, so their victimhood doesn't ring quite true.

[@random-jn8ec]

@@sup9542 exactly. People who are defending this movie should name a single male character that is either useful or not bad or not stupid. Isn't this sexism? Or reverse sexism? I wouldn't know. But reverse sexism is not the answer for sexism.

[@TheDeadsideofYouTube]

@@random-jn8ec it all went downhill after the cat took Sam Jackson's eye 😔

[@KaiKrimson56]

@@TheDeadsideofKZbin I was hoping he'd lose his eye getting blasted by a Kree. That would've made way more sense.

[@Nazxul360]

Everyone for the last ten years: "Give us a solo Black Widow movie!" Marvel: "Ugh. Fine, I guess."

[@imant126]

What we actually should have said was give us a good black widow movie.

[@Miranox2]

@@imant126 That's like telling a pile of crap to not stink.

[@kiwiangeldust6912]

@@Miranox2 not even close

[@danielawesome36]

Marvel: "-you _are_ my little pogchamp. Come here."

[@Miranox2]

@@kiwiangeldust6912 I'm talking about Hollywood, not your beloved comic book character.

[@TransformersBoss]

Movie theater security: “sir, you can’t bring a held-empty bottle of Jack Daniels into the theater…” Drinker: “nah, it’ll be fine, ahm goin te see black widooooo”

[@darthkek1953]

Movie theatre security: "sir, you can’t bring a held-empty bottle of Jack Daniels into the theatre…" _Verifies it's Critical Drinker_ Movie theatre security: "sir, here's a full one. You'll need it. And the half." (PS, British dudes deserve the British spelling: theatre)

[@alfredvickers4054]

Movie theater security: "ah, say no more, sir, go right on in."

[@legionarybooks13]

@@darthkek1953 to be fair, the British usually refer to it as the "cinema", with "theatre" most often referring to live stage productions. But yes, I agree with using the appropriate spelling. :)

[@darthkek1953]

@@legionarybooks13 I'm only joshing with him.

[@PNWAffliction]

oh you're here to see black widow, well come on in!

[@strix3d609]

Is no one gonna talk about how they wasted taskmaster on black widow, AND THEN MADE HIM A MENTALLY 12 YEAR OLD GIRL WITH BURNS. In taskmasters first appearance in the comics, he goes up against all of the avengers, and almost wins! Taskmaster isn't even a black widow villain. For the amount of hype and advertisement it was mediocre.

[@alvarodiazrodriguez2603]

@Marlo Kartel We will always have Marvel vs Capcom 3 Taskmaster, though. As someone who's been his unofficial Stan since the MvC3 days, this is probably the shittiest thing to happen to me since hearing MF DOOM and DMX died.

[@juniorjames7076]

@@alvarodiazrodriguez2603 This is worse than the Mandarin reveal in Iron Man 3, and I thought Marvel swore they would never do something like that again.

[@alvarodiazrodriguez2603]

@@juniorjames7076 Remember the 4-5 issue run in 2010? That was some nice hokey superhero fun. Also kinda explains why he doesnt have too much of a history. Also his r63 version in Deadpool Max was fun too. I miss the late 2000's/early 2010's

[@strix3d609]

I sighed so loud that my family shushed me

[@Fil-AmFishing]

I said throughout the whole movie that they butchered task master and that comic book version would've killed black widow on the bridge.

[@NightWatch0997]

The fact that dreykov, just a REGULAR human being, survived from the explosion back then, unscratched, while her daughter, that is only few meters from him, barely alive, is very stupid 😂.

[@matthewquach2705]

Agreed, it just goes to show how poor the writing was for this movie, which is not surprising given that the script was written in eleven days.

[@dakariusashby7968]

I just assumed Dreykov was never actually there, and it was a double who ended up dead.

[@Spidey-oi5sn]

Bucky Barnes: has PTSD about killing people while being mind controlled Yelena: *fUnNy JoKeS*

[@samuelabbottchannel]

Plenty of dumb shit in Flacon and the Winter Soldier.

[@yasminelucman4827]

yelena was not even funny she was annoying as fuck

[@CirBam24]

@@yasminelucman4827 I guess humor has only quality in the eyes of the beholder. Yelena for me was the best part of the movie that made me and my whole family chuckle or laugh

[@radegast2346]

@@yasminelucman4827 she pretty.

[@cauaviniciusguedes2004]

And people think She's funny i think she was annoying, but yeah, MCU fans.

[@danielherrin]

Never thought Harvey Weinstein would be a Marvel super villain.

[@RandomAmerican3000]

Didn't he kidnap Mary Jane back in the nineties?

[@danielherrin]

@@RandomAmerican3000 That's right, I forgot that.

[@philanderphillips2309]

Daniel Herrin DO NOT say that name 3 times or he'll end up behind you.

[@JohnSmith-hh2nz]

First thing I wondered was, "Is that Drew Carey?"

[@danielherrin]

@@philanderphillips2309 Bigee Smallzzz, Bigee Smallzzz, Bige....

[@stefanods7256]

I love how Steve Rogers gets walloped by Bucky in Winter Soldier and ends up looking like Steve Harrington after his fight with Bill. And then, Natasha, gets smacked and punched by a clan of Widows simultaneously, head smacked on wooden table, punched by Taskmaster, and still looks hot and cleansed. What the actual shite…

[@TheWayoftheSith]

Its not supposed to make sense...

[@stefanmakara373]

Bucky was trying to murder Steve. He was trying to crack his skull open with his fists. Widows were instructed to make Natasha suffer before killing her so the punches were held back for awhile.

[@stefanods7256]

@@stefanmakara373 It doesn’t explain why her face isn’t bruised or a little cut by the end of the movie. Punches are punches. And she receives even more than just fists…

[@stefanmakara373]

@@stefanods7256 because it is just a movie and they wanted to make it clear she can keep fighting

[@stefanods7256]

@@stefanmakara373 It would have made way more impact if she looked bruised and still managed to fight back. Because all I saw, was that women remain beautiful even when fighting, and that’s really stupid.

[@arielishere176]

Can you believe this thought-provoking, well-written marvelous movie script was only written in *11 DAYS?*

[@trinaq]

It's a shame that Scarlett's final entry in the MCU is going out with a whimper, rather than a bang!

[@rjofusetsudzin8011]

I liked movie however they should have made years ago

[@calemr]

Well, it was that or going out with a splat.

[@sir-dragonheartx8711]

Yep it is sad

[@tjroelsma]

It seems that Kevin Feige has completely run out of idea's and decent scripts for the MCU. And as the rest of the Avengers has either been killed off or faded into obscurity, this sounds more like a mercy killing for Black Widow than a movie to do her justice. Feige is just tying up loose ends, as over the years many fans have begged for a Black Widow movie. And this was all he could come up with....

[@michaeljames4904]

Hulk already got the banging out the way.

[@Ryclops1057]

"Instead of throwing her off a cliff." That caught me by surprise.

[@SpiceCh]

@John Mateus I hope you're kidding rofl

[@ernesttobler6014]

"I can't tell what this movie is trying to be." Thats because it's a film written for people suffering from a form of psychosis.

[@leroyvermilion7708]

😂😂😐😂😂

[@Interneter1245]

@@leroyvermilion7708 Ah, you found it funny I see...

[@myrtle1234]

Thor got Taika Waititi. Black Widow got an uninspired amateur. They could have asked Katherine Bigelow, or Susanne Bier, or Catherine Hardwick. But no. Disney was never serious about giving Natasha the send off she deserved.

[@TheJonklerofjonklers]

Hilarious 😆 and filled with people who don’t know who taskmaster is!!

[@GeorgeMonet]

BY and FOR

[@hyprspd]

Taskmaster is meant to be this big intimidating person with a deep voice and cocky personality They turned him into basically a robotic wannabe Captain America

[@sasheelkarthiksathyamurthy5283]

Nah bruv they turned him into a senseless bitch..

[@JR-ju3kj]

That's right,he's also really funny and sarcastic in the comics,too.

[@JR-ju3kj]

I would have been fine with if they had Red Guardian be more like the wannabe Captain America because that's basically what he is in the comics,anyways-he's Russia's answer to Captain America and their own super-soldier but here,Marvel made a joke out of BOTH Taskmaster and Red Guardian.

[@liamphibia]

That's what the Spider-Man game nailed perfectly.

[@alisterfolson]

That's why Disney hires not-so-famous directors and writers; they won't argue when Disney makes changes to the script (as they do)

[@krakenaz8168]

Great point! Any prestigious, established director/writer wouldn't touch a Disney Movie with a 10 foot pole. Unless they are of course at front of this insane woke agenda!

[@PranavTheGreat1]

Yeah for example taika waititi brilliant director and writer even with only one movie in the mcu he is arguably the second best director in mcu after James Gunn of course.

[@borngeek]

I think edgar wright directed some part of Antman movie and then he left/fired.

[@6thgraderfriends]

Yeah that makes sense. The more I learn about filmmaking is that when a movie is bad, it's almost never the actors. It's not even about the directors most of the time. It's producers and studio executives that mess things up.

[@gabiloganimations8566]

@@PranavTheGreat1 that didnt age too well

[@amoose1163]

The “they’ll never know what you sacrificed for them” will never not be funny.

[@guilhermehank4938]

The line itself doesnt have anything special but the context and the sheer insanity that makes you question the moral integrity of the people involved is what makes it legendary

[@HulkCrow]

I'd laugh if it didn't irritate me so bad

[@ThePunisher_88]

@@guilhermehank4938 Explain it for me please?

[@salmonmankingoftheocean7624]

@@ThePunisher_88 Spoilers for WandaVision: Scarlet Witch enslaves a town of innocent people to make her feel better because she’s sad that Vision is dead. When she finally releases them, they’re understandably upset that they were turned into dolls for Scarlet to play with. Then some FBI lady or something reassures her that they’re only mad because they don’t understand how much Scarlet gave up by ending the fucking mind control spell on them.

[@SheldonAdama17]

Me: (debates whether or not to break into a house and steal everything, decided against it) “They’ll never know when I sacrificed for them”

[@christopherjones5446]

Remember when these movies started out being helmed by capital “D” directors? Now they’re handled by no name ideologues who tick all the right boxes. To quote Anthony Stark “Not a great plan”.

[@TomEyeTheSFMguy]

Anthony Edward Stark.

[@JohnSmith-bs9ym]

Communist infiltration route: Universities --> Hollywood --> TV shows --> Mainstream media --> Every fabric of our society.

[@davecullins1606]

@@JohnSmith-bs9ym I'd say that's just generally how a lot of ideas are spread, like a love for democracy, gay acceptance, and sacrificing your life for the sake of absolutly everyone else.

[@MurderMostFowl]

I am actually ok with no name directors getting their chance to prove themselves… James Gunn had very little credits to his name before Guardians and even the Russo brothers basically only had one movie before Winter Soldier

[@JohnSmith-bs9ym]

@@davecullins1606 It's a leftist ideology sponsored by China. How can you tell? Well, anytime anybody says anything bad about China, they get censored.

[@LAMODÉLISTE]

What’s missing with the Black Widow movie 1. darker tone, though they did that at the beginning. But it’s not enough. They could’ve done better. Ever Anderson is good though 2. Back story of the red room training. Like winter soldier training the little widows and nat herself. And the psychological effects of the red room on Nat and Yelena. 3. Budapest. What really happened right? How did Clint and Nat became solid bffs? That should’ve been covered… 4. Iron Maiden or Melina should’ve been the main villain. Like in the comics. They destroyed Tony Masters aka TASKMASTER character. It was a waste. 5. Alexei Shotstokov should’ve been Nat’s love interest like in the comics. Enough of the male hero body shaming. 6. Ivan Petrovich should’ve been present in this movie. He was mentioned as nat’s father in Endgame. But why isn’t he present in this film? In the comics Ivan adopted Nat. And he recruited her to be part of the red room spies. 7. THE RUSSO BROTHERS should’ve written and directed this film. Cate Shortland and jac schaffer had a lot of SHORTCOMINGS. The movie was so badly written. 8. The film should’ve been released after civil war or winter soldier. It’s came a little too late for Phase 4. Don’t get me wrong I love Scarlett and how she played this character through the years but this movie was so late. A lot of us fans were expecting a DEEP DIVE of her PAST but we never get the chance to see what really happened instead we got a pixie dust and twisted stories. TO BE HONEST… It feels like the movie was a swan song, the origin and an apology. Basically overall it was confusing. I also hate the fact that Natasha was a secondary character in her own movie. Give this women her deserved Spotlight! I love Florence playing Yelena but noooo Yelena is bitchy, cunning and evil in the comics. They basically changed her. Changed her overall persona. MCU basically ruined Natasha Romanoff And now they’re moving on already with Yelena? Noooo she deserves so much better. I love Yelena and Florence but I hope MCU realizes the mistake they’ve done with this movie. Cate Shortland, Jac Schaffer and Ben whatever did an awesome job of ruining one of the greatest comic characters out there. Lols 😂 they should’ve hired David Hayter and the Russo Brothers instead.

[@quadchairman4895]

The worst thing about this movie is how they wasted and completely butchered taskmaster. It’s one thing to turn him into a woman, as long as the character is still good I usually don’t care even though it’s an established character. But to make her a mindless drone with no personality is just a shame. And how do you have taskmaster on your team and not have him being the one training the widows. That’s like the whole reason you’d recruit him.

[@churrocharcharm]

Not only that, now Taskmaster was "saved"/reformed/whatever you want to call being freed. Thats an issue with SO many Marvel villians now, they are one off villians when they used to be multi-story in size. what could they possibly do to TaskMaster now??? Make her a hero?? I mean, whats the fun in that? lol Also man they really only said "they copy your movements" once and didnt touch in on that in other scenes 😂

[@Benjamin-mj9pd]

Let’s not forget what they’re setting up with Loki. Parallel universes.

[@torrancemoore6152]

Taskmaster was wasted in this tbh. Was barely in it and treated as a winter soldier clone. Maybe he would have been better off in falcon and winter soldier.

[@Raccon_Detective.]

@@churrocharcharm Same with killmonger they turned him into a one off villain.

[@dakodablack7312]

@@Raccon_Detective. can’t rally be mad since the main actor passed away there def gonna do shuri instead of white wolf

[@elliotwalton6159]

So, basically, there's a million 'Black Widows' out there now, so we don't have to worry about the that special, unique one that we lost. I wish i could rewrite my past so conveniently.

[@stevenscott2136]

Would have come in handy during that alien invasion back in 2012.

[@EvilDoresh]

Her sister will become the new one. Unless they find a more diverse alternative.

[@aligmal5031]

She is special to them as the person they knew for a decade not as a black widow 🤦‍♂️

[@Papa_Straight]

@@EvilDoresh One where it's a transgender black full of widow energy LoL

[@DanielSzilagyi]

That's the thing with a LOT of the Marvel characters, none of them feel overly special and if one dies or goes away someone else can take the name or mantle easily, look at Spider-Man, Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, Venom, Iron Fist, Daredevil and on and on. All of these characters have copies or others that take them on at one point and it's what kills them from being truly unique.

[@MrNickPresley]

"He uses the power of smell to protect himself." It's the Old Spice (TM). That's how you smell 'em who's boss.

[@emperorrat3036]

"Did you know I was riding this horse backwards?" 😆

[@PNWAffliction]

Purple Man could control a good chunk of an auditorium before boosting his powers. But I imagine he represents the higher end of being able to do this...

[@dangazobiton9774]

Not to mention that it doesn't make a single bit of sense, breathing the pheromones through your mouth will still allow it to reach your nervous system...

[@trustmemysonisadoctor8479]

@@emperorrat3036 LOVE IT!!!!!

[@emperorrat3036]

@@PNWAffliction He could even control an entire hospital via PA system when his power got booster and commands last up to 72 hours unlike his previous 24. Loved how they abuse the loopholes in his commands, specially the bullet in the head scene.

[@mongorians22]

6:28 Medical person here. This is strange to me. In order to break your nose in such a way to where you couldn't smell anything anymore, you'd need to break the cribriform plate, which is located directly between and below where your eyeballs sit within their orbits, to sever the olfactory nerve as it passes through. The problem is: 1. This would most likely lead to complete and irreversible loss of all olfactory function 2. Any force sufficient to break this structure would probably also cause a skull fracture and/or an epidural hematoma and would certainly knock the person unconscious. 3. Because the cribriform plate is a direct part of the anterior cranial fossa, you also would probably have cerebrospinal fluid leaking from the nose, followed by massive septic meningitis in the next few days as bacteria bypass the blood-brain barrier. I don't expect Hollywood screenwriters to have medical insight, but they should at least get someone smarter to proofread this stuff. Also, why not just pinch your nose closed with your hand and go grab a clothespin or something? I guess that would have looked stupid but probably better than fracturing your skull.

[@ct-117]

There's also the fact that no matter how much of a beating anyone takes, they're fine. Kicked off a bridge? Fine. Broken nose and a merciless beating? Fine. Explosion to the face? Fine.

[@air1das]

Also remember how drinker said escapism makes imposible possible?

[@sbuderlenyora]

Exactly I noticed that too! And the movie was so bombastic with explosions, isn't the whole point of black widow's character is that she's covert, agile, and efficient?

[@Crime_Mime]

@@air1das True, but there comes a point where if a fictional property violates its own internal laws and consistency, it breaks the suspension of disbelief.

[@alansteelful]

Almost like it's a Captain America movie. Except the only super soldier in here is a "toxic" male

[@TheKing-qz9wd]

I remember one time in school a girl figured out I am ticklish. Feeling asphyxiated and unable to break into a sprint, I swung wild to get her off. I was later informed I hit a melon of hers and she fell to her knees much like when a dude gets kicked. (I regret nothing, I need to breathe damn it.) Why mention this? Well, unless leather suits are like Black Panther's Vibranium costume, then why aren't all these explosions, falls and beatings slowing these people down? Like if I go to a scene over here... there's probably some ballistics analyst who'll explain how the shockwave is liable to affect someone.

[@Jsssddfgffghshdhdhusjsjd]

The fact that they have to drag men down to lift women up should say a lot about their opinions of women in the first place.

[@EvilDoresh]

Even magical girl anime have at least competent male _villains_

[@gmonkman]

iirc Drinker has made that very point before. Was that actually a direct quote? Either way, agree man.

[@levi_exiled8579]

Same shit in Loki. Disney is trash.

[@RottenHeretic]

They even had to make taskmaster a woman.

[@gwell2118]

why did the movie do it?

[@user-gu1ed1kb8x]

idk what's worse, the pointless genderswap reveal, or that they took away Taskmaster's personality. He was built to taunt his enemies.

[@EverettBurger]

Was that the plan all along? I seem to remember reading the wiki on this movie back in 2020 and taskmaster was played by a man.

[@benmcgill2018]

They got literally everything wrong about Taskmaster

[@Auzzie015]

My biggest disappointment about the film. I didn’t expect it to be great, but I was really interested to see Taskmaster in film. Completely ruined the character for the sake of a plot twist.

[@user-gu1ed1kb8x]

@@EverettBurger obviously the stunt double is probably male, there's no way a woman could pull off this stuff and not look feminine

[@loonety]

@@EverettBurger wasn't evan mc gregor supposed to play him or was that just a fever dream i had

[@MachoMan_Vert]

The Big Reveal: The Taskmaster is actually a Taskmistress.

[@NeilYoungHorne]

I hated what they did with Taskmaster so much. They ruined him

[@asc3nded397]

I totally agree, the way they handled taskmaster was what I was the most disappointed about. Not only do we barely get to see her powers in action, but she doesn’t even do that much outside of the first part of the movie.

[@torram4388]

Same for Mandarin and another disposed iconic villains that I tend to forget

[@Smedleydog1]

Don't you mean they ruined "her". 😆

[@LAMODÉLISTE]

I agree! Tony masters was murdered so hard

[@waaargh2985]

And Ultron

[@n00bplayer72]

The 'Break your nose to resist pheromones' stunt sounds like something straight out of Jojo: "I set myself on fire to resist your ice powers!"

[@EvilDoresh]

I could swear there's at least _one_ anime/manga where someone als blows out / punctures his ear drums in order to resist some sound-based power.

[@Pinnaporaptor]

That's just the Sky High fight

[@Krysnha]

@@EvilDoresh In saint seya, Shiru of dragon take his eyes out in order to endure the Medusa attack, and he figths better blind, and i am not sure if in BTX there is something the sort with a sound attack, not sure watch it a long time ago

[@bradleylindsey3540]

Krillin fights someone who smells terrible. He's on the ropes, until he remembers that he doesn't have a nose

[@EvilDoresh]

@@bradleylindsey3540 _Goku_ reminds him.

[@Sliider36]

note how the drinker wisely refers to this villain as Skeletor. beyond the costume, theres no Taskmaster here.

[@phillewis2630]

Kind of like Iron Man's "Mandarin"

[@NexusKin]

I thought the costume looked like Crysis's nanosuit.

[@marko-gj1uj]

When I read a comic of Amazing Spider-Man issue no. 307 or 308, I imagined Skeletor's voice while reading Taskmaster's dialogue.

[@homanism6438]

Movie with male mc: exist Drinker: good movie! movie with femalec: exist Drincker: fuccccck this shit. Whoever like this is a simp!

[@parkerriggs3861]

They did ma boy dirty!!!!

[@smugumin3448]

She wouldn't have even stood a chance against actual taskmaster

[@InvitalPulse]

This movie should have come out 10+ years ago after her introduction in Iron Man 2. Maybe also it should have been a Black Widow/Hawkeye movie.

[@Endtimescoming]

100% This movie talked about Budapest, what I wanted was to SEE Budapest a Hawkeye Blackwidow movie shortly after The First Avengers would have been amazing, instead we got this trash. Even the ending was stupid Whathisbucket with the water prison comes up with 500 cars supposedly filled with badasses to try to collect Black Widow and all we get is a cut to 2 weeks later? What....BULLSHIT give me a fight scene or a captured but got away scene or SOMETHING but we got nothing a terrible terrible ending that you dindt even mention Drinker. Also the end credit scene...are we really to believe that shoehorned in Little Sister must go kill Hawkeye now....oh wait is he going to be a stumbling stooge in that movie...he's male...this is the modern MCU....yeah I guess so.

[@kronozord8346]

I dont agree, 10 years ago this character didnt had the same weight with the audiance. This movie is Marvel capitalizing on the emotional tone of BW death in Endgame.

[@cchavezjr7]

I think they spent all of her screen time with her being part of every other Marvel film. I honestly got tired of her being an important part driving all the other movies she was in. I wish they had just given her her own movie early on and let the other characters have their own movies that weren't so heavily relying on cameos on steroids.

[@Bateluer]

Thats really the only way a Black Widow movie could have happened. Releasing it now . . . it shouldn't exist.

[@tradengaming2023]

It should have came out before infinity war... But instead MARVEL pushed back the movie to release Captain Marvel.

[@ElValuador]

Disney thinks they can have a “diverse” production staff, not based or merit or talent, and people with either not care or notice. Hopefully they will be proven wrong.

[@ElValuador]

@@nillynush4899 I hope the rumors of erasing the last Star Wars trilogy are true.

[@BoneistJ]

@@ElValuador Does it matter? It just means there will be more shit star wars movies from disney.

[@asongforthemostbeautifulwo6476]

I kinda agree with you but at least Scarlett Johanson is incredibly talented. She even got oscar nominated for 2 roles in the same year (2019)

[@ElValuador]

@@BoneistJ The Mandolorian was at least watchable and the last five minutes of season two, unfortunately, was the most emotionally satisfying Star Wars scene in almost forty years. I do believe the reaction/outcry from it didn’t go unnoticed by Disney. Whether a new trilogy would be good or not I personally believe nothing could be worse than the abomination we were given.

[@TransWomanTalksOnYouTube]

@@ElValuador dude I'm a huge Star Wars fan , and I really hope so

[@LordVulcan93]

"Aw, for fuck's sake." Drinker describing how most of the fans feel.

[@carolpulma2734]

Speak for youself ..

[@pierrebegley2746]

@@carolpulma2734 Found the sheep guys

[@rickmorty5215]

It really disappointed me. They really had a lot to work with here but fumbled it so badly. I actually took a break during the movie just process the shock at how bad it was. It felt bland and had none of what made Black Widow fun to see in the other Movies she was in. Hardly any comedic charm in the dialogue.

[@cornelius8617]

And it already sold 13M. Why people are so foolish :(

[@williamdunbar2449]

Im never paying for another Marvel movie ever. Unfortunately Ive already bought tickets for it, but I just wish I hadnt.

[@everythingthrice]

The movie was basically a backstory on a character whose backstory we already had a firm grasp on from moments of previous movies.

[@jmace2424]

“Giving one of the MCU’s most beloved characters a fitting sendoff” Oh great, what are they doing to Spider-Man now?!

[@paulheisel2469]

You mean Spider-Woman

[@ghostprojekt]

The MCU has Spider-Man? I remember Tony's adoptive son Ironlad but that's it.

[@GOD-vo2ns]

spider-man will come out as gay for an epic sendoff.

[@shadowpathfinder7723]

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one lost here. Who ever cared about Black Widow aside from thinking the post-wall actor is attractive? Was there someone compelled by a useless low-tech superspy standing next to superheroes in combat?

[@RolandDeschainee]

Lol I'm sure spider -girl is on the way to take over the spiderman mantle

[@TheB00tyWarrior]

"Everything burns" Disney is on the way out the door.

[@calmgoodfire4662]

Probably not they can make 100 flops and still make money from a tax right-off

[@Gibsonnnnn]

"everything burns" including originality that old Disney had

[@trinaq]

Yep, it's prove that the Disney higher ups are only concerned about the money now! 💰🙄

[@rjofusetsudzin8011]

Nah they will be fine After all they still have their *Glorious Purpose*

[@xpressjustice542]

@@calmgoodfire4662 yeah I’m not a fan of Disney or the current MCU

[@kickey]

When I first heard this movie was coming out, I was hoping it would be more liken to LOGAN. A gritty, more realistic, lower budget film that focuses on character over spectacle. It's too bad. An actress like Scarlet would have really shined in a movie like this.

[@emperorrat3036]

I was actually hoping for something like Logan. The timing of this movie was already bad (should have been release after civil war along with homecoming) but they could have still pulled something close to Logan that would make the Endgame sacrifice a lot more emotional and gut punching instead we have another generic marvel film more busy setting up the new black widow and a clunky plot.

[@ShadowSonic2]

Logan was just a generic Western, predictable start to finish. Take out the blood and cursing and there's little memorable about it.

[@hillbillysamurai]

@@ShadowSonic2 I think you watched the wrong movie

[@jwrecka231]

@@ShadowSonic2 I agree, I actually thought Logan was below average at best but because it's slightly better than the most recent X-Men movies it gets hailed as some sort of masterpiece which it certainly isn't.

[@lye27]

@@ShadowSonic2 still better than 90% of the whole MCU

[@mr.nostalgia8404]

„The emptional tone of this film is all over the place. Swinging wildly between dark serious drama and ridiciulous slapstick comedy with absolutely no warning or common sense .“ This is what absolutely f*cked me up the most during the entire movie! Glad, I‘m not the only one.

[@camerongunn7906]

Disney to fans in the US: "It wasn't made for you. It was made for China."

[@AmericanNope]

Exactamundo. American dollars are a bonus not the main goal anymore. People need to wrap their head around the fact gigantic multinational corporations have never been your friend and now they are increasingly treating you like garbage…cause they can.

[@YoGranDaddyEvil]

@@AmericanNope Yeah man. Disney totally only makes movies for China. That's why Shang Chi, Eternals and Dr. Strange 2 will not be shown there. China only allows a handful of foreign movies each year.

[@jamesrawlins735]

@@AmericanNope Absolutely - although we are disappointed with this because almost all of the MCU films have been pretty good, even great.

[@TheRestedOne]

Hmm.. should I market for 300 million, or 1.5 billion?

[@davecullins1606]

But Chinese people are on average muuuuuuuuch more conservative than the average American. Far most of them thoroughly dislike LGBT-rights, actual female empowerment (i.e. what we had before feminazism took over), and social justice. They don't give a crap about racial equality because to them being ethnically Chinese makes you automatically worth more than anyone else (unless you are a high-ranking celebrity). So pushing an SJW-agenda would be commercial suicide if you want your movies to appeal to the Chinese market.

[@julia-6195]

The Critical Drinker: "I watch shitty movies so you won't have to."

[@InfernosReaper]

Reminds me of Nostalgia Critic before Doug Walker realized he was a one-note comedian and started resenting his character

[@alexanderulv3886]

It’s not a shitty movie, it’s more like lukewarm piss that’s been on the stove for a few too many phases.

[@thecircleoft.e.d2121]

Honestly, he just watches the movies I have no interest in, the superhero sub-genre’s so bloated and annually, that I’m just treating it like white noise.

[@Pentti_Hilkuri]

We're probably watching these movies anyway. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@Dsturb85]

@@InfernosReaper I like the nostalgia critic. His videos are always hilarious.

[@michaelbarnard3636]

Your montage of Black Widow that played throughout this video was the best send-off that character has gotten yet. Your editing is always fantastic, but the way you showcased her 12 years on the screen was thoughtful and touching. Cheers mate!

[@nickmiles2862]

Slapping muted video clips together = pro editing?

[@ThePosseEGS]

@@nickmiles2862Good choice I get

[@walterkoziol3822]

@@nickmiles2862 You try doing it when your vision is blurred and doubled from drinking.

[@HarlanShakey]

@@nickmiles2862 let the man have a compliment god damn bro.

[@wowt]

Ehm wtf. He just loops trailers.

[@Mysikrysa]

The avallanche which killed innocent people and dogs in the prison was caused by that bratty sister of Natasha, who claimed she loved dogs. She also made disgusting jokes about their death, like "cool way to die". Let this sink in.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

I stopped watching The Witcher in the first episode when this chick killed her own dog to sell it to someone so she could go away with Superman...

[@kebokev7519]

Terrible things are fine just as long as women do them 😂

[@hassathunter2464]

"He uses the power of smell to defend himself" Hmmm, must be that Internet Gas...

[@VerilyViscous]

Oh god no you reminded me of that. Please no save me from the cringe.

[@utrak]

oh my word, that old chestnut? How did your brain manage to store such useless information lol?

[@kalesmart1]

I'd like to imagine internet gas gives you vivid hallucinations of rule 34, feminist screeching and building clay houses with swimming pools

[@bemotivated8443]

@@utrak I can’t forget the horror of that comic no matter how hard I try

[@MASHo1992]

Nerve gas. Not even once.

[@edorn9972]

Ah yes, Black Widow, the superhero with the incredible power of Kicking.

[@TomEyeTheSFMguy]

And legwork

[@Dorkster81]

Lol, in comics she has super serum

[@Aeric98]

And shooting

[@Vinaysheel1]

Don't forget her pew pew pistols

[@samuelhunter4631]

Was that a family guy reference?

[@--Fenix--]

Black widows fighting prowess should have been secondary to her tact at being a spy/double agent. Think avengers when she extracts information from loki.

[@stefanmakara373]

She extracts information from Dreykov too. She even says "thank you for your cooperation".

[@justinhunt4767]

Fax

[@bohlalenchabeleng1370]

@@stefanmakara373 😂😂 I laughed so hard when she Syked Loki, like damn girl you're good. 🙌🏾

[@moonknightish]

@@stefanmakara373 True, they tried to remake that scene. But I don't think they were successful like in Avenger. Maybe it's the way it was edited, but it felt clumsy from a writing stadnpoint

[@randomclonetrooper1]

@@moonknightish in the avengers, the audience were sold that Loki was tricking her, but in Black Widow, we know what Natasha was already trying to do, so the payoff was not that exciting

[@captainhowlerwilson508]

The Winter Soldier was definitely not a pointless movie in the MCU at all, it is one of the best. It was a well-written, well shot movie and one of the most incredibly important ones, setting up Captain America's crumbling faith in the government that would ultimately cause him to side against registration in Civil War, and put him at even more odds with Iron Man.

[@calmgoodfire4662]

I can’t believe Bucky showed up as the winter soldier and began to shout how bad the orange man is

[@matiasfermandois264]

Wait, that happens?

[@sebastiankarlsson7358]

I don't recall that happening

[@lolhuh6682]

@@sebastiankarlsson7358 looooooks like the joke flew over your heead.

[@davidmauro8947]

@@lolhuh6682 and mine... no clue what he's talking about.

[@ty194]

@@davidmauro8947 Yeah I'm lost too...

[@InfernosReaper]

I wonder when they'll ever realize that lowering men in order for women to stand above them is not anywhere near as impressive as a woman =standing above a man through her own merits and effort.

[@andrewstepke7779]

Watch the movie your self and you will see the latter happening.

[@theraven268]

@@andrewstepke7779 You are deluded.

[@superstraightpride5348]

simpo soyboyo

[@stevenbobbybills]

@@andrewstepke7779 all the men she has to face off against are pretty low tier scum, it's not like overcoming a competent combatant.

[@leroilapue15]

Ellen Ripley...nuff said

[@kma6881]

I laughed harder each time the “don’t know” shruggy guy showed up. Well played.

[@harryhoffer9804]

In Costco, every year we do a safety video and guess who shows up? They even edited a high vis vest on him 😂😂😂

[@johngrotefeld6302]

Drinker spoiled us with a strong multi-combo 'don't know' onslaught here ...

[@LonMoer]

Unfortunately "don't know" appears to be the answer to the whole movie......

[@WompWompWoooomp]

You mean Discount Gordon Ramsey?

[@PaulPauliePabloPaolo]

Haha...thats my favourite line as well.

[@caronstout354]

Black Widow got a reverse "Female Superhero" treatment..after being a strong sidekick to the other Avengers, she got a less-than- stellar origin movie.

[@bloodrunsclear]

People ask me 'What's your problem with female centric films? Are you AFRAID of strong women?' My answer is 'No. I'm AFRAID the writer/director will consider women so WEAK they never give them any meaningful challenges or decisions. That makes for a BORING story.'

[@D2Kprime]

Or, you could have said I detest of BAD female-centric films because they don't do _anything_ to help the cause of so-called "diversity." If you think men and women are equal, wouldn't/shouldn't you demand that a female-centric film be done with the same care as a male-centric film?

[@bloodrunsclear]

@@D2Kprime 'wouldn't/shouldn't you demand that a female-centric film be done with the same care as a male-centric film?'

[@janetuss6496]

just tell them you will praise a female centric film if it is as good as Kill Bill

[@steel.9714]

My answer is : I'm not Afraid of Strong Women. I'm afraid of toxic feminism they spread by legit handicapping everyone else and making them fall in the position of Mary Sue.

[@gw7911]

Yeah there weren’t many areas where widow was actually challenged. In the beginning of the movie we thinks she’s cornered until it’s revealed she’s no where near where we think she is and is 10 steps ahead of them. Again we think she’s cornered at the end of the movie but instead it just cuts off and apparently she escaped capture somehow and now she’s going to break out others.

[@michalkrasnodebski8709]

"Clumsy, Dumb and Disappointing" - sounds like a perfect Disney description

[@Flome810]

@@TacticalShinebox Uhhh-

[@ronald8792]

Biden supporters

[@bmoneydollasign]

@@ronald8792 alright ronald get out of here before someone gets offended

[@ronald8792]

👏Bi👏den👏Sup👏port👏ers

[@bmoneydollasign]

@@ronald8792 ronald!

[@booshmcfadden7638]

Important thing to note: We're not allowed to be attracted to the women in this movie or we're bad people.

[@migthulhu]

mission accomplished

[@placebo0815]

Well good, i cant find sjw's or feminists attractive anyways...for me - like most men- visuals alone are not enough, it must be backed up by a propper character... So only the simps left to like the movie

[@thepsychicspoon5984]

They've all hit the wall now, anyway.

[@chronicallyboredenby]

I mean one guy in the theatre shouted “ looking fine as wine” at the beginning. It was awkward…

[@GOD-vo2ns]

I don't find scarlett attractive anyways, especially after her whole de-sexualization rant.

[@Seifiros]

I love how in these movies (and videogames like Tomb Raider) Siberia, being a region that encompasses like half of Russia, is always portrayed as this desolate snowy land of eternal winter and depression, with gulags full of dangerous babushkas guarded by bears with balalaikas&ushankas. Also I remember reading the Civil War artbook and in the chapter on locations there's an interesting passage about hydra base at the end that goes something like: "The setting was a region of Siberia...so we google mapped some 360 shots from Iceland"...Probably because when (if at all) they've tried to goooglemap Siberia they got themselves some cognitive dissonance and panicked.

[@Mysikrysa]

:D :D :D Spot on!

[@Sanctus-Susanin]

So true, i gonna necropost it

[@rengarcia5189]

Black Widow: just holding the door open until Diverse Fantastic Four can come through.

[@scottking8189]

Let’s goooo, can’t wait for the first dysfunctional family Smh they’re not gonna do them justice are they?

[@TheJonklerofjonklers]

Naw man I feel like after cheap eternals cosplay and Jackie Chan wannabe ant man quantumania doctor strange 2 multiverse of madness and Spider man no way home might fix all this shit!!

[@HungryWanderer86]

We already had a Diverse F4 movie and it was a huge pile of manure.

[@jamescourts1030]

I thought they already had a diverse fantastic 4 and it was awful

[@Daustarticmon]

And dont for get diverse x-men or who ever they will be call now.

[@samgott8689]

Hey, remember how in Winter Soldier, Black Widow *and* Cap were allowed to be taken seriously? I liked that, that was good.

[@quicksilver2k97]

Red Guardian, the only Man in the whole film was a literal laughing stock from start to finish

[@kaijusoshingeki7214]

Fat Thor #2

[@marypoppins989]

He even was useless in the entire movie, the one thing being him taking them to their MOTHER.

[@TheLifesentence2278]

Played by a communist who demanded violence against the American people.

[@KRYMauL]

@@kaijusoshingeki7214 At least Fat Thor had a reason for being like that. He had depression and was suffering, but the writers wanted him to act more like Laborsky.

[@shayla106]

@@KRYMauL They also gave away his throne to the diverse chick.

[@gimblyv]

Finally got around to watching this after long last. So on point. There are so many good themes they missed. The comics did a good job of looking at the Black Widow program, and how they could've worked that in. Or a humanizing look at the avenger's home life when they aren't away. They touched on those, and some were seemingly poignant, to immediately have to drop a stupid joke or kill the mood. The sister is talking about how she's crushed that her only "real life" was all fake, and how her "dad" only wants to talk about himself which is well done ... until they just squander it. Ugh this would have been a solid storyline (done better) to drop after civil war and before endgame to make it make sense. I think you said elsewhere it wouldve dropped where Captain Marvel came out which would have been so much better. Like too many other things - it's so frustrating to see the potential just squandered.

[@FreedomCompatriots]

This is why I never watch Disney corporate-owned script-written-in-the-boardroom films for several years now. Its just better to watch Drinker and Mr. Plinkett explain away how ridiculously convoluted and uninspiring these movies are.

[@CsykKrit]

100% 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🏅

[@GuiiBrazil]

True. To be honest, not even worth pirating it.

[@Bob.martens]

@@GuiiBrazil I did and I agree. A waste of time, even for free.

[@belldrop7365]

@@Bob.martens It's one of those shows that you just keep alt tabbing away from, lol. Even accidentally closing it for porn because it's been paused for a whole day and it's porn time.

[@zt2019]

Just so you can get wound up? Seems a bit depressing

[@newt3786]

I wish they focused on the red room side more - a psychological horror would’ve been cool

[@thisthatvibe]

mmmm that's too creative, how does cookie cutter for the next 5 years sound..?

[@lemon_fruit7]

I agree, it would have been cool to explore the actual red room stuff more

[@FreekyPower]

well they told us YEARS ago that they wont because with Red Sparrow we already have that backstory so if you want you can watch that

[@FreekyPower]

@@thisthatvibe really creative to make a movie thats already out there called Red Sparrow right?

[@akashsadhu1430]

They even casted out dr strange 2 from that genre. Now I'm just afraid it would turn out like this

[@ReplayStation]

I feel like this movie's sole purpose was to sledgehammer new characters into the MCU. This movie should have been made right after Civil War... By a better director...

[@johnconstantine1604]

so true!

[@kamizumoku]

Spot on.

[@AhseemCarter]

Ik right

[@normadgarmez7026]

That's for sure and had the Russo brothers direct

[@israelgarcia5342]

I agree that’s why sjw women shouldn’t direct comic book movies. Get ready though they are going to get more WOKE. Kevin Feige said he wants to get rid of the name X-men to xthem. And that is going to be worse and more woke. He’s said is how it is.

[@jonburkitt3729]

The thing that annoyed me the most in this film is how flippant the girls are about having being sterilised, making jokes about it with their “Dad” to make him feel uncomfortable. In Age of Ultron we see how traumatic it had been for Nat, so much so she goes as far to say she’s a monster because of it. But now she’s just making jokes about “lol no periods because remember they took out muh womb”. Really undermines her character.

[@animaloverload7465]

Scarlett Johansson: stop sexualizing women in movies. Also Scarlett Johansson: yes I'll take the money from Lucy where I get felt up by a complete stranger.

[@philanderphillips2309]

I was trying to forget that movie existed, so... Thanks.

[@bigduke5902]

China, though.

[@animaloverload7465]

@@bigduke5902 doesn't matter, she took the role.

[@NexusKin]

"Lucy" absolutely sucked. "Limitless" with Bradley Cooper pulled off that premise a whole lot more effectively and realistically.

[@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299]

@@NexusKin LOL Sounds like a sequel: Limitless Lucy :P

[@jeremybosworth2275]

We do know why Red Guardian was in a Siberian prison, because that's where he is as at the end of the last season of Stranger Things. Disney is so unimaginative these days.

[@CapnArrich]

Ah, makes perfect sense. Thanks for that :)

[@digiscream]

Having watched it last night, I can honestly say that the best thing they could've done was make this a TV show instead. It would've given us a chance to see her time at the Red Room, where it came from, the origins of Red Guardian, how she ended up pulled into Barton's orbit, what Taskmaster actually _is_ , and more time with Dreykov to explain the conflict that killing his daughter caused in Nat (which, lest we forget, was originally set up in the original Avengers film, along with "Budapest", which we never got to see either). These were all things that I was really looking forward to seeing, and...nothing. So much potential, and what we got was a light spy thriller without much actual spy content.

[@wanderingthedesert5599]

I still think a Black Widow defection movie would've been boss, and no I don't think ScarJo would've been overshadowed by Jeremy Renner's Hawkeye. The problem with that kind of movie is that it's something that would've made more sense during MCU Phase II.

[@ambientoccluser]

I thing they are setting piece for tv show - if I'm not mistaken, after the end credits, our Valentina Allegra de la Fontaine from falcon and winter soldier give Yelena name to "avenge" black widow by order to kill hawkeye. And that TV series is coming at fall.

[@louisduarte8763]

I also would have like to see them SHOW us Hawkeye and Black Widow's mission in Budapest rather than TELL us about second-hand.

[@The_Moons_Heart]

it would've been so cool to see an actual "natasha perspective" movie from beginning of her story at the orphanage, to the end of her sacrifice (or maybe even a small funeral after the events of endgame). We got a tiny bit of the first part, but after that it was just a team gathering to take down the big bad, along with some fake family drama. Black widow was such an interesting character that always gave hints to her past through most all of the phase 1&2 movies she was in, but we ended up with near nothing to tell of it.

[@JackMadness91]

Marvel, gender-swapping iconic characters is not a “hard-hitting shock-inducing progressive” decision, it is a slap in the face to those who enjoy comic book characters that we’d like to see in a live action setting. Disappointing is an appropriate word.

[@good-tn9sr]

Yea and there are plenty of female superheroes to put on screen but they don’t want to do that

[@chronicallyboredenby]

Taskmaster would have been so cooler as a mercenary.

[@NormanReaddis]

@@chronicallyboredenby press F for Tony Masters sacrifice for the name of "Equality"

[@waseem__600]

@basedweeb The comics are so dogshit nowadays can't read something without vomiting

[@guyvizard549]

Like Marvel EVEN cares about the ethics or politics at all. They just want to make sure "the modern kids like it!" $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is ALL they care about. Just look at "What if?.." I know its based on the comics, but it's the series equivalent of Taco Bell's menu. Same ingredients, different arrangement. Eat it, morons.

[@thelaughingrouge]

So the turned Taskmaster, one of my favorite villains, into a woman with a crap backstory for reasons because of course they did.

[@SupremeCommanderBaiser]

Thats Taskmistress for you!

[@Skycube100]

Well Disney really love their twist villains ey

[@thelaughingrouge]

@@SupremeCommanderBaiser I read that sentence and my heart just sank. God that's probably what they are gonna call her too!

[@lewidavies304]

IT'S MA'AM

[@Darkness1984]

He was always a C grae villain that barely anyone knows.

[@tinad8561]

I wanted the story of Budapest, with Jeremy Renner in the cast, and more than 30 seconds of “hi, I blew up a child” angst for character arc. I wanted to see Black Widow do what she was good at before the Avengers. I wanted to see the Widows do something other than one dance number the eurythmics troupe at the local high school could choreograph, and a beat down. (It actually reminded me of the end of Buffy, “everyone’s a slayer now, gurrlpowerz.”) I didn’t want a watered-down 2-hour episode of The Americans with the family angst on steroids. I didn’t want a Red Room montage that bled the horror out of the trauma, to be replaced by idiot-man-doesn’t-understand-periods jokes. I didn’t want a miniboss battle where Black Widow stands around while Dreykov pontificates (although I gather the idea was to mirror that interrogation from the Avengers. They missed.) I didn’t want a boss battle that was, oddly, anticlimactic, and out of character. Why, exactly, would a practical person like Black Widow release the Big Evil from the cage when she didn’t have to, and had no mechanism available for either safer containment or rehabilitation? This felt like fanfic, fan service (ooo, look, girl-on-girl fights), not an MCU addition with any kind of point except maybe to introduce Yelena for future cameos in 4th wave farm team movies.

[@TheDkb427]

Hawkeye wasn't even in this movie???? Did Nat and Jeremy say something about Budapest in avengers?

[@tinad8561]

@@TheDkb427 yep. No Jeremy. We get an abbreviated flashback of her part of the Budapest op, and she reminisces about the two of them hiding out in the subway station…but no relationships were established, fleshed out, buffed, or otherwise depicted outside the family.

[@TheDkb427]

@@tinad8561 well that's just down right lame as hell. Figured they would have at least made good on Nat and Jeremys relationship. Ooh well thanks

[@tinad8561]

@@TheDkb427 Lame? Yeah. Sorry if I spoiled it for you, but I expect if you’re here & watching this video you weren’t planning to fork out for the theatre ticket anyway…

[@diegomorales4028]

“clumsy, dump and dissapointing” basically 70% of the MCU movies.

[@schoolprojects1835]

This movie just ruined all the intrigue and mystery behind this character and made her backstory way less dark and horrifying, that 2 second scene from age of ultron was way more interesting

[@rekrn12345]

Pretty sure they heavily implied she started much younger than that. It's not even tragic at this point. She just became an assassin because why not.

[@babayaga9805]

The only thing Joss whedon did right with age of Ultron was wanda messing everyone's mind and everyone suffers from that trauma

[@GeorgeMonet]

Even Age of Ultron was changed in post to make it stupid. You can clearly see in AoU that she wanted to say that killing her parents to graduate made her a monster but they changed to line being sterilized even though that's nonsensical. No one would call themselves a monster because they were sterilized.

[@netoak7]

@@GeorgeMonet In one of the drinker's review he talks about it and he says that being sterlized is important. As one of the characteristics of a female is giving birth, the moment she was sterilized, she resigns being a woman, the idea of start a family, a relationship, or anything else, from that point she's no more than an effective weaponl, it's psychological and I don't think it's stupid. Also sorry for my broken english, still learning.

[@alvinoflys7504]

@@netoak7 great points and all are easily understandable! Certainly she wouldn't consider herself a monster for not being able to have children but that would absolutely psychologically traumatize some women. Keep up the good work dude!

[@xgkrampus]

They ruined a spectacular character to fill their “woman power” social agenda with Taskmaster like why would they do that to him

[@romelmunoz7957]

Because "subverting expectations" everybody knew...

[@simpelfrietje4865]

Just make a character called taskmistress or some shit and then introduce taskmaster later not this

[@takodachi1239]

taskmaster even has a daughter with the same power in the comic

[@kelechiojobor933]

@@simpelfrietje4865 so the theory was true and expected all along ,they gender swap Taskmaster

[@takodachi1239]

@AudiTheKNIGHT I'm just saying that they have the audacity of genderswapping taskmaster instead of saying this is his daughter and the original one was a legend during 1950 or some shit

[@erinwebb2725]

I am even willing to overlook those flaws. What I’m not willing to overlook Was the unrealistic notion that she died her entire head a flaming red hair to platinum blonde with one drugstore box dye kit. Lord have mercy.

[@hollowmenrule]

Dude you are so funny. I love your videos the editing your sense of humor it is all spot-on and very enjoyable

[@Waterbug1591]

Natasha's hidden superpower and every girl's idealistic dream: De-age 10 years right up to The Avengers incident.

[@Barbro247]

Task master is played by a man the entire movie except for that awkward 30 second reveal! Identity politics at its worst.

[@Barbro247]

Apparently that 30 second reveal is photoshop so taskmaster is played by a man 100% of the time.

[@rupertsmith5815]

It isn’t necessarily identity politics it’s just needed someone capable of doing all of the physical parts and then someone to do the acting tons of films do that and the twist actually fits with the story it just needed better writing

[@j0hnf_uk]

Ah yes, the trademark, 'subversion of expectations', trope that was totally unpredictable(!)

[@derekhofstetler3998]

@@Barbro247 Its so obvious that she doesn't fit in the costume.

[@Youngnrrwhtjwtjetk]

@@jestersreign7530 Honestly, yes. As a woman the film was stupid and bordering on offensive. It's like marvel is so desperate to prove that it's woke that instead of just making a cool movie with a woman, they try to shove fake girl power down our throats. From the villain being super lame, to the evil scientist dude's exposition about girls being worthless (why not make his reason to choose girls something different like society feeling safe or something), talking about how the women were rendered infertile as if that is somehow important to the story. It was such a mess that it would have been better if it wasn't released at all. All this did was give incels ammo to say "see women superheros suck." They didn't deliver at all.

[@DarkSithBarbie]

"Why did she and her sister try to kill each other for no reason?" Clearly spoken by an only child.

[@lunaamakura7683]

😂😂

[@GreatGreebo]

I am 💀

[@imtoddhowardandimadeskyrim6553]

You aren't siblings unless you fight to the death 5 times a day.

[@janetuss6496]

a sibling relationship isn't complete unless one or more of you have ended up in the hospital due to accidental damage during fights growing up

[@gw7911]

That part actually made a lot of sense. At first they were skeptical if they could trust each other then it became a thing of pride of who was the better.