Evolution - Comparing Tesla's P85 to P100D!

[@MikeAndTum]

The exterior size is almost exactly the same as the P85. The only panels that are different are the hood, bumpers and rocker panels. The weight on the P100D is about 200lbs more than the P85. I think it feels smaller due to the dark headliner and center console; and lighter due to tuning improvements with additional power.

[@BlackTesla]

Thanks for the comment and insight agree on almost all points. However on further inspection and confirmation from both the design team and techs at the service center they all confirm that the dimensions of the car have been changed to make the car "tighter". So the hood is different as is the pitch of the roof and angle of the windshield as a result, it's slight but noticeable. I corrected myself because I know it's heavier but definitely feels lighter as you say. I'll post some side-by-side pics on Twitter to show the difference visually.

[@lkendrix7782]

Great job with the comparisons!

[@marshallangelo4000]

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[@jaxonkabir3034]

@Marshall Angelo flixportal :D

[@marshallangelo4000]

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[@jaxonkabir3034]

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[@stage1greg]

great video BT! as nice as the new P100D is, you make me appreciate my old '13 P85 even more. thank you for posting this!

[@BlackTesla]

Both are really great cars, win-win and first world problems for sure.

[@jonathanmcrisp]

I'm watching him drive and thinking "Why does this road look familiar??" He's in NJ! lol

[@SilentDrex]

As a Tesla owner, you should ALSO tell people that they can get a 5 year extended warranty if they use your referral code to get Tesla Solar Panels. This is a huge thing that one very well spoken Tesla Energy representative explained to me but I hadn't considered until late last year. For a long time I was under the impression that Tesla solar panels would be really expensive. Until he explained that because Tesla is one of the only solar companies in the US that ACTUALLY manufactures their own solar panels within the USA (Gigafactory 2 in New York) they are able to avoid the Trump tarrifs on imported solar panels from China. So while others raised their prices, Tesla actually reduced it's prices this year. In addition to this, Tesla also offers a payment plan in California, where you can order the solar panels with NO DOWNPAYMENT!!! You simply finance (I would never LEASE solar panels) the cost by paying a very low monthly payment that would effectively replace your electricity bill. i.e. instead of paying PG&E $140/month for electricity (which is my rough average bill), I am now paying Tesla $150/month for the next 10 years......And this implies that I am more or less BUYING my solar panels for $100 a year for 10 years! And after that is done, I will be powering my home AS WELL AS my Nissan Leaf (hopefully, I would have a Tesla by then) ABSOLUTELY FREE for the next 15 years (under warranty)!!! I am also told that you can add a Powerwall to this FINANCING plan for some extra $50/month I guess, and still NO DOWN PAYMENT! That is amazing!!!

[@Richard-ie1if]

that yacht floor is a winner! never seen that before but would take it, the super deep console they put in now is bizarre, can almost stick your whole arm down in it looking for stuff

[@Chrisb8s]

Thank you. It makes me still love my p85. I know that the newest cars are quieter and tighter smoother but they also cost 2 times as much. You have the best comparison videos. My last loaner was a p85d and I could feel that handling improvement. You will love that car and whomever got your first kitt will love it too

[@BlackTesla]

Agreed on all points and I still have love for the P85, whomever gets it will love it too and get it for way cheaper than new!

[@JohnNguyenVincent]

great comparison, exactly what i was looking for. A owner's perspective.

[@davidgarcia8781]

The steering things are because they changed the suspension setup when they introduced the dual motor cars in the previous generation

[@InternetDude]

I have a 2015 85D and 2018 P100D, I like the softness of the new seats but I miss the bowling alley (yacht floor).

[@bchdds]

What’s the highway acceleration difference? Say if you floor it at 70mph, if you are not in ludicrous mode is it the same?

[@tyrek78]

bchdds oh big difference

[@benkanobe7500]

Help me understand: With the Executive option you can not fold the rear seats down or you can not fold them down without removing the cup holders? I am making up my mind on the P85 vs P85D. I could really use some clarifiacation. Thank you!

[@BlackTesla]

You cannot fold the executive rear seats at all m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5e5kneQoal9bKM

[@ronnimathew]

Great and insightful video...kudos!!!

[@rkz0694]

Prospect ave I used to live over there. Im. buying a p100d soon thanks.

[@AmadeusRE]

As far as the lights go you can get aftermarket upgrades pretty good quality and good prices to get the brighter lights back...

[@BlackTesla]

Good to know thanks!

[@tristanskylark]

3:20 how does it stay in?

[@BlackTesla]

Seat belt latch that hooks onto the safety hook on the rear of the seat.

[@medpilot]

Thanks for the comparison 👍🏽

[@viper5ko]

I might be mistaken but I think you mean it can now support 5ghz wifi, not 5g

[@FamilyFirstJ]

Some of those things I never knew.. and I thought I was pretty knowledgeable on model S

[@buzzofftoxicblog791]

Agree 👍 especially when pointed out like details 👌 led lights day light instead of yellow light ✨ 💛 😄 Me like white light led's and didn't now early cars bigger funny but early Teslas feel bigger know I now 😉

[@Tgian854]

Can I ask where you get the rear seat center console for the p85? Thank you

[@BlackTesla]

Tesla used to sell it, but the latch had a flaw so they discontinued them.

[@michaeltavares2690]

@20:34 I noticed that your P for parking appeared on the left side is that something new?

[@BlackTesla]

Nothing new just a false positive to the right for a parking spot. A real spot on the left based on the distance of the cars in the left lane but obviously not a proper parking spot.

[@evolv.e]

Love that rear center console. I want one for my P85+ but haven't been able to find one yet as they apparently have been discontinued, so I'll keep my eyes peeled for a used one. Black Tesla, see if you can pick up a standalone seatbelt buckle piece from a salvaged/wrecked Model S and insert that into the center seat seatbelt latch to eliminate the need to use the center belt.

[@BlackTesla]

Thanks for the tip. I hear there is a software update that will allow you to disable the warning, will wait and see before going that route.

[@allenpickett5307]

Get the belt that clicks in then you wont need the belt going across the back center thats what i did to my P90D

You can partition one USB drive into two drives and use the same USB drive for both TeslaCam and music. Then you'll have one port free.

[@BlackTesla]

Thanks for taking the time to comment! I've tried using the partition but the problem is that there is a bug with the dashcam (as of 42.2-.4) where if you do not pause recording the drive gets corrupted and is unrecognizable by the car until you fix it, so rather not have my music inaccessible if/when that happens.

Black Tesla That makes sense then! Nice channel, subscribed.

[@JustinCrediblename]

I wonder if you can find a standalone male buckle for your rear middle seat belt concern.

[@JustinCrediblename]

'not sure about your aesthetic sense, but perhaps you could get a company to build you custom wheel covers to increase the efficiency. certainly there would be other S and X owners out there who would like to have aero wheels. Since Unplugged Performance is getting into aero mods, they might benefit from creating custom wheel covers that pop onto the wheels.

[@BlackTesla]

Yeah that's possible but Tesla is also supposed to release an update to address situations like this.

[@BlackTesla]

There used to be aero wheels for the classic model s but they discontinued them with the new design.

[@danielwhite7793]

Well now I feel like I'm in the Stone ages lol!! I'm driving a 2012 S-85 Signature. @ 73K miles. No plans to get rid of it though. I might have to add a second Model S ??? Hmmmm. ???

[@BlackTesla]

I have to tell you I was quite surprised at the pace in which Tesla iterates it's cars and tech that requires you to upgrade to keep up. 2 months before I took delivery they announced dual motors and the first deliveries were 3months after I took delivery 😔, then they announce 90kwh packs, then ludacris mode, etc all within 2yrs.

[@Richard-ie1if]

wait for 2019 battery upgrade and interior refresh if thats your thing me thinks they'll up the models to 90/120, add horsepower to beat the porsche taycan down before it ever exists and the new battery cell is CHEAPER and BETTER in multiple ways

[@Richard-ie1if]

@@BlackTesla the 3 for better or worse has gotten most of their attention since 2017 :(. the 1850 cells are showing their age badly sucks when their flagship has less range than a 55k 3 that they requested have its range reduced by the EPA even >> the new cells are cheaper lighter and even put out more power I think, so you'll get more and more power per cell even. couldn't care less for the air vent upgrade and the concept artwork for the screen setup makes it look identical to a 3 but the drivetrain upgrades will be amazing

[@BlackTesla]

The next battery update and/or refresh for the S/X will allegedly make those cars like the Model 3 with a single screen, one of the reasons this was the BEST time to upgrade IMO.

[@BlackTesla]

Strongly considered the PM3 but preferred the S, and now have the same range as the 3 and so far the 100kwh pack seems to hold up well.

[@Cloxxki]

I'd love to seem them next to each other on a long test oval. From a stop, pedal down, and never lift. To see what actually happens. How do top speeds compare and how far will they get before the first car runs out of juice?

[@BlackTesla]

Working on this...

[@svenlobeto9123]

Where can I find the info about the 5G antenna in the mirror? Sounds cool.

[@BlackTesla]

Not likely to be a lot out now on it, but once 5G ramps up I'm sure Tesla will announce it.

[@burntwafflz]

Another awesome video from Black Tesla! I didn’t know that this contained a dormant 5g antenna. I wonder if Model 3 has as well?

[@BlackTesla]

Most likely yes

[@Ifyoudonttakeitucantfakeit]

But when you consider the cost to change and immediate loss from depreciation is it worth changing? Certainly not for me and my p85. I reckon the change will have cost you £50000 over next 2 years....how much would repairs to p85 cost if you took out extra warranty? Makes no sense to me but hope you enjoy. 👍

[@BlackTesla]

Thanks for taking the time to comment! For sure upgrading is not ideal for all but was for us. Cheers.

[@Ifyoudonttakeitucantfakeit]

Its a beautiful car mate, enjoy!,

[@steverupert6988]

Do either of the glass roof panels open or slide like a sunroof? Also, do either of the panels have shades or does the sun always shine through?

[@BlackTesla]

The front panel of the sunroof opens fully. Both are tinted and has UV protection. Sun shines through but it rejects heat as well.

[@Rick9482]

Nice video! The most desirable car on the planet and.........it's yours. Got some good information from your videos as I continue looking for my used Model S so thx for the content. I detest the front end on the M3.....sorry, had to say it.

[@GKAllen]

What's up man.. I am thinking of moving to a 85D or 90D next year.. Love the 1.0 Enhanced driving... From my 2013 85.

[@BlackTesla]

Congrats! I'd suggest the 85D because the first few iterations of the 90kw packs have serious degradation issues and the odds of making sure you don't get those packs are 50/50. I'd also suggest looking into newer >2016 75D as well or new M3D.

[@InternetDude]

Are you sure there are P100D door sills? I need them!!!!

[@BlackTesla]

Yes check your local gallery you'll see them

[@InternetDude]

We have no Superchargers or stores within 500 miles so I can’t (middle Canada). I will search for pics though and look into that. I am also interested in lighted sills, that would be a nice thing to have.

[@Nomad556MMD]

Did you ever try "Chill mode"? Maybe that would help you get back down to the 300 Wh/mi for the P100D.

[@BlackTesla]

I tried chill mode and range mode still didn't help. I do however find that autopilot gets closer to 300 than I do somehow

[@davidalford7165]

Great video as usual but curious why the 19" over 21" rims I have my ideas why but just wanted to hear yours. Thanks for the info .

[@BlackTesla]

Not a fan of the turbines that come with the car standard nor do I like the black arachnids on a black car. Therefore I went with the 19s since winter was coming and then will swap to the silver arachnids we already have for spring - fall.

[@DP-sm3su]

The key word is refinement.

[@tranquility701]

Rear camera wrong - left and rigth. Watch it closely. Why so?

[@buzzofftoxicblog791]

Great 👍 review 👏 I am looking at getting a Tesla new 3 or second hand S ? 🤔 thank you 😊 Buzz Great Times 👍

[@BlackTesla]

Thanks for watching!

[@buzzofftoxicblog791]

@@BlackTesla just subscribed. Thinking 🤔 early Tesla S classic increase in value?

[@BlackTesla]

Thanks for sub. Go with the 3 if you are looking for an S earlier than 2019. They will lose value even further once the new 2021 models start delieveries.

[@buzzofftoxicblog791]

@@BlackTesla pleased to sub people who help Tesla and our earth 🌎 green revolution for all life 😀 👌 so much toxic in position of global power☠⛽☠this must end. Good point the new Tri power 2021 Tesla S looking 👌 👀 very good 👍. We drive a brilliant i3 lease coming to a end so Tesla is hopefully next car 🚗. Me thinking 🤔 Tesla company looks like it will tack off like a rocket 🚀. The Model 3 quite common already hear in Wales! thats with out China just coming on line and when giga Berlin starts production end 2021🤔😀👍 with Y and 3 price come down? Then the mass market cheap Tesla 2 ? Tesla will hoping kill toxic 🙏 But there are very few original Tesla S 2014 to 2019 hear in Wales I like non mass market cars! Agree with you thinking price gos down but could it be the HOTEST CLASSIC CAR EVER GOOD INVESTMENT OR ONE BIG PAIN???? Guss I will buy with heart ❤ good to see 👀 electric EVs tack off. Thank you keep up the good work and Tesla 🌏💚 big toxic oil and banking are sadly still there🙄. What got you in to evs? Buzz #buzzofftoxic #ConscienceLand #ChangeWednesday 👍🌏💚

[@scottbennett3119]

Great comparison video! I also recently purchased a Model S P100D which is replacing a Model S 85D that we have owned since new (2015). I am having a bit of an issue with regard to charging the new S P100D that I hope you can shed some light on for me. The problem I am having is when using the supplied charging cable (which is 32 amps) I am only getting about 21 mph charging rate @ 240-243V ( it should be at least 23 mph). When I use the charging cable from my model S 85D (rated at 40 amps) to charge my model S P100D I get 27 mph charge rate @ 240-243V. When I use the 40 amp cable to charge my 85D, it charges at 30 mph @240-243V like it is supposed to. Could you please tell me what mph charge rate you get with your model S P100D with the suppled 32 amp cable? If you have ever tried a 40 amp cable I would like to know the mph charging rate results with the 40 amp cable as well. I have discussed the issue with the service department at the dealer I bought the car from and have not yet gotten a satisfactory answer to this under spec charging issue. And yes the amps setting is set at the appropriate 32 and 40 amp settings. I would very much appreciate your opinion and input on this. Thanks for the great videos you post, Scott

[@BlackTesla]

The supplied mobile connector has me at 26mph @40amps 245v. Perhaps try using another 32amp cable to see if it's consistent.

[@scottbennett3119]

@@BlackTesla Thanks for checking. When I use the 32 amp cable that came with my car, it automatically sets the amps to 32 and I get a 21 mph charging rate. (the spec sheet says it should be a 23 mph) Is your supplied cable 32 amps rated or is it a 40 amp cable? I also have a 40 amp cable which charges my P100D at 27 mph, which is under spec. The same 40 amp cable charges my old 85D at 30 mph. The tesla tech says he is looking into to the under spec charging issue, but hasn't gotten back to me. If you have the 32 amp cable, what is the mph charging rate at 32 amps? If you have the 40 amp cable, what is your charging mph at 40 amps? I greatly appreciate your helping me with this issue. Scott

[@scottbennett3119]

I just want to clarify: Is your supplied cable rated at 32 amps? And you are getting 26 mph charging rate with the supplied 32 amp cable when it is plugged into the NEMA 14-50 240V outlet? (I`m getting 21 mph, which is below the advertised 23 mph and not acceptable to me considering how much this car costs). I realize this is taking time from your day and I very much appreciate your help in giving me the info I need to determine if I have a defective onboard charging inverter in my model S. Thank again for your help and for the great videos.

[@BlackTesla]

Sorry for the delayed response, I have a 40amp cable so I get 40amps and 26mph on the nema 14-50 outlet

[@scottbennett3119]

@@BlackTesla Thank you for checking, my charge rate is about the same as yours and other Tesla owners I have contacted using a 40 amp cable. Thanks again.

[@cky12a]

Nice rides.

[@TheTriko93]

Hey man, why dont you introduce yourself???? :D

[@TheTriko93]

Im Waiting you in the next video! I mean 3 Tesla? Is a lot of money

[@MountEdgeFightClub]

Neil deGrasse Tyson

[@DrEarbuds]

I disagree with you P100D is bigger your P85 is perfect

[@BlackTesla]

Look at them side by side and then sit in them back to back and you will see.

[@DrEarbuds]

@@BlackTesla I have ...... 2015 Model S in the rear has less head room than a 2018 Model S . Also rear wheel drive is the better Tesla

[@JamesTechJackin]

Good ish bruh.

[@lutherblue2826]

I don’t think you should spend the whole video showing viewers the steering wheel.

[@lkendrix7782]

The new Tesla! Keep it Black!

[@MountEdgeFightClub]

I think this is Neil deGrasse Tyson? Im 99.9% sure it is

[@Richard-ie1if]

hands down worst time to pickup a P100D/100D identical outside of 2.5vs2.0 hardware "that can be upgraded" to 2016.5 models 4k tax credit gone cutoff october no supercharging cutoff october refresh is on the way most likely in 2019 likely 90/120kwh will replace with newer battery cell higher power output, cheaper battery 4k mile P100D's going for 15% off .5years old might as well pickup a clone from 2016.5 for 25% off or wait till 2019 for P120 with new cell/interior or as the youtube channel dude who cuts things in half did pickup a P100 showroom model for a hefty discount no idea how you get the opportunity to get those but he got 10%+ off with

[@Richard-ie1if]

honestly surprised they have the nerve to ask the same price for it as it was in september. easily makes them 50%+ profit margin and they won't cough up the 4k credit loss nor give anything for supercharging loss