Bladder Pain and the Gut Microbiome w/ Jessica Drummond

Expert Interview with Dr. Jessica Drummond, DCN, CCN, PT about bladder pain (including interstitial cystitis), gut health, and how it's all connected. We discuss simple changes you can make in your diet and lifestyle to help combat chronic bladder pain naturally!
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[@gvegan9787]

Most that suffer with IC/Endometriosis suffer with high histamine levels. Most probiotics, chocolate, bone broth, avocado, dairy, tomato sauce and aged meats will be very high in histamine and cause problems. I’ve started freezing all my meat leftovers to slowdown the histamine release.

[@meenakshim4437]

So important information. Please make more videos on Interstitial Cystitis and bladder pain syndrome

[@karenreider7757]

thank you ladies for this wonderful information! Proper diet and supplementation along with Bree's pelvic exercises have completely freed me of bladder pain from BPS. I will continue to follow the diet restrictions so I can remain pain free. This information is just another key to the problems those of us with IC experience. Thank you

[@terribishop5313]

Excellent!!!! My bladder pain started when constipation started!!! Ty for this video!

[@vibrantpelvichealth]

Everything is connected! You might like my constipation/elimination playlist: bit.ly/FemPlaylists

[@irissmusic3]

I hope you’re feeling better

[@cassandrashorse3004]

How are you now?

[@RiyaDas-pg2jj]

At least some people understand s my problem. Suffering from IC and bowel problems for the last 8 months. Trying to follow vegan diet. It has helped a lot but i still have pains....hoping for the best...love from India

[@Cssaarr]

thank you !!!!!!!!!!

[@deannalevada3011]

I have started a DNA Customized supplements. I am having flares but I'm determined to power through. I would love for you to look at this ingredients and tell me what could be causing the flares? I would be so greatful!🙇😍

[@stephanieyeager751]

Love this! Thank you! The chocolate link doesn't work anymore 😟 is there a recipe?

[@vibrantpelvichealth]

Hey Stephanie! Although Jessica's link is no longer active, you can try my recipe! It's great (if I do say so myself): femfusionfitness.com/chocolate-therapy/ Enjoy!

[@bethanyrochester9699]

This is awesome info! Thanks!!

[@vibrantpelvichealth]

So glad you enjoyed it! Jessica is FANTASTIC. So knowledgeable!

[@jafaralijaffery636]

I have Urological problems too, like testicular pain, urinary issues and sometimes my stomach bloating as well it could be IBS / acidity and I think I have a lot of food allergies, now I'm confused dietation would help me or functional medicine nutrients

[@madamhill2121]

She is on point on many things but because she is talking and talking non stop, its difficult to understand everything. She needs to slow down a bit. But overall she gives great factual information.

[@brigham2250]

I'm a 55 year-old male dealing with a health issue that I'm not sure is Interstitial Cystitis or a chronic bladder spasm or something else entirely. I have very frequent urination (every few minutes) and penile ache (and a strange stuck-in-an-orgasm type of feeling... very difficult to explain). I take both Lyrica and Amitriptyline and I think it is the latter which helps the most. But it also seems to decrease my sex drive (including that orgasm feeling stated above). On the one hand, great, I find it very annoying anyway (yes, not all men want to have a high sex drive). On the other hand, I'm so used to it that I feel like something is missing. I have been going for pelvic physical therapy for one year (a few weeks ago I was told that my pelvic floor was no longer tight... yet I still have the same symptoms when I stop the medications) and I also tried (to the best of my ability) to alter my diet this past month, eating mostly vegan. Sitting, especially in the car for some reason, really brings on my symptoms. No matter how much I urinate before getting into the car, as soon as I do I have go again and I feel a sort of penile pressure (very unpleasant and very scary). I had a cystoscopy in August 2020 and was told everything looked fine. I now see a different urologist because I was not happy with the first one, in fact, I don't even trust his statement that he didn't see anything wrong. That might sound odd but I think he was enjoying my pain and suffering. You had to be there to understand. In this video it was stated to avoid soy. That is a tough one for me because I don't eat meat but do buy Tofurky products. I also eat dairy-free cheese alternatives such as made by Violife. As for bread, I prefer gluten free, the same with pasta. I almost entirely stay away from tomato sauce and I stopped putting lemon juice in my salads and now I'm just putting a few drops of vinegar to give it a little extra flavor beyond the olive oil. I have been on several drugs to help my bladder and prostate but none of them have helped. Even acupuncture was a dud. I take Prelief when I'm eating. For a few months I watched my oxalates (I no longer eat spinach) but this didn't seem to make a difference. This has been going on for close to two years and has really destroyed my life. Whatever is wrong, to date it has been very hard to corner and defeat. I think a lot about not waking up. I just want it to stop but nothing really helps (outside of the Amitriptyline... which isn't perfect but I'll take what I can get).

[@vibrantpelvichealth]

Hi there, I'm sorry to hear about all the ups and downs on your journey. You've been through a lot! Glad to hear that you went through pelvic floor physical therapy. That's a great start. Your symptoms sound like you could still benefit from a holistic healing program that brings together multiple approaches: anti-inflammatory eating, mind-body practices to relax your mind and body **and** to rebalance your nervous system (which has been on high-alert due to an extended period of pain), hip/pelvic floor stretching, and gentle strengthening after an appropriate period of time. If this approach resonates with you, check out my 12-week Overcome program. You can get the first week for free, to see if it might be a good fit: overcomepelvicpain.com/for-men Best of luck. You can overcome this in 2022!

[@Daniel-Youtube-]

I feel for you. Try the Urology Place in San Antonio, Texas. They use a DNA test to find bacteria and do injections.

[@cassandrashorse3004]

How are you now?

[@GAIL781]

Awesome

[@johannawickham5529]

D mannose powder form really helps

[@vibrantpelvichealth]

Glad you found something that works for you. Wishing you the best in your healing journey!

[@ms_jadah]

I didn’t think chocolate was ic friendly

[@lalaloveyou5186]

I can not find Jessica chocolate 🍫 website anywhere

[@jafaralijaffery636]

Hey guys

[@robertwhite2449]

Probably goes without saying, but this also applies to men as well with painful bladder, IC, CPPS, or chronic prostatitis?

[@vibrantpelvichealth]

Absolutely.

[@Amritpalsingh-mc4kx]

Thank you very much for sharing this video. my Gf had this problem, due to she was very upset. she went to many clinics and hospitals. But the results were not good. Then her friend told her about Planet Ayurveda, then she went there and got treatment started. Now she is fine. If you have this type of problem or any other type of health problem. you should go to Planet Ayurveda

[@peggyharris7849]

Why is soy a problem food in this case? It's listed as a bladder irritant on the IC diet, too. I'm a vegan who has depended upon soy for its higher protein levels but am now experiencing bladder pain. I'd hate to give it up, but I would if I had to. I've researched this a lot, and no one has given me the "why" answer. What is it about soy products that irritates the bladder?

[@vibrantpelvichealth]

Hi Peggy! I'll message Jessica and ask her to chime in on this question as well, if she has time. But I can tell you that soy is a food that many individuals have sensitivities to; it can cause an inflammatory reaction (as can other common culprits such as gluten and dairy). Additionally, soy is a phytoestrogen. High soy consumption has the potential to impact your hormone balance, and chronic hormonal imbalance may perpetuate the body’s inflammatory response.

[@peggyharris7849]

Thank you for your reply, and I also look forward to Jessica's response. I follow Dr. Michael Greger and several other nutritionists who advocate a WFPB diet (Whole Foods plant-based). His debunking of the soy mythology (breast cancer, etc), in addition to my need for more protein (age 66) led to my increase in soy foods. I miss them terribly. They make life a lot easier for vegans seeking slightly higher protein consumption (20% is my goal).

[@momslg]

Hi Peggy... what I have seen clinically and in the research is that many women are sensitive to soy. Soy is an interesting food. For many women, it is a good source of protein, and is a useful source of phytoestrogens - to lower excessive estrogen - potentially reducing the risk of cancer in some, and raise functional estrogen - improving vaginal dryness, etc. in others. So, soy - as a food is not "good" or "bad," it's just that for some women it is beneficial and for others, it's not. For those who are sensitive to soy, they can have increased inflammation, pelvic pain, and other chronic pain/ digestive issues. They can have difficulty digesting soy, and thus it can increase digestive inflammation blocking the absorption of needed nutrients. Also, in some women soy functions to be too estrogenic, which can be a problem related to headaches, breast tenderness, cancers, ovarian cysts, etc. For the bladder, it can be inflammatory - again in some women (not all.) Plus, unfortunately nearly all of the soy in the United States is genetically modified, which could cause some issues with the gut microbiome. My suggestion is to eliminate soy from your diet for 3-4 weeks 100% and see how you feel. If your pain is reduced or eliminated (and digestion better, or any other beneficial outcomes), see how you feel when you add it back in after a week or two. That elimination --> rechallenge protocol is really the research gold standard to see if soy is a good food for you (or not.)

[@peggyharris7849]

Thanks so much for this. I'll try to absorb and digest it all (pun intended, but not really). I've been on a long, long journey with post-menopausal vaginal atrophy, leading to 9 UTIs in 7 months, leading to multiple side effects from antibiotics. Now I have trigonitis and chronic pelvic pain. It's been well over a year, and I'm weary of the search for answers. I was really healthy. Until I wasn't. You've been very helpful.

[@momslg]

Best wishes for your healing journey. And, we do see clients virtually on a one-to-one basis, if you would like a consult. We have a waiting list now, but can usually get patients in within a few months from when you register on the waiting list: integrativewomenshealthinstitute.com/resources-patients/

[@PraiseHimOnly777]

I always thought chocolate was not tolerated by people with IC. Also, most people cannot afford functional medicine drs as they don’t take insurance.