BMW Bluetooth: BlueBus Installation, Wiring, Demo, Mounting

This video includes the following:
BlueBus Walk-Through: 1:20
Installation: 4:41
Wiring: 8:36
Demo: 9:19
Mounting: 20:12
BlueBus Website: www.bluebus.dev
Initial E39Source BlueBus Review: • The Ultimate BMW Bluet...
Digital DSP Audio Cable: 65128361177
Digital DSP Audio Cable: bit.ly/2uLiQnW
BMW ULF/Nav Computer Bracket: 84136924547
BMW PSE Box Bracket: 84138361643
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[@martydoane1]

Thanks for the install vid. Pretty straightforward. Waiting on batch 2, and just ordered the telephone cable for the M5. Any hands free challenges (or risks) will now be addressed. Thank you Ted, and Thank you Ryan for turning us onto BlueBus.

[@emersonca30032]

What is the part number for the phone cable

[@martydoane1]

@@emersonca30032 It took me a while to find the email referencing the telephone module cable, as I had upgraded the Radio, Nav, etc., at the same time to bring my 2000 M5 up to a "somewhat" more current configuration. The cable you are looking for was an optional purchase from BlueBus, so I would email Ted at "support at bluebus.dev".

[@bmw5series12]

I actually got this about a year ago. Works amazing, it really is as good as it seems.

[@E39Source]

BlueBus pre-orders are open NOW through April 13th! Order at www.bluebus.dev.

[@DanFilkins]

Thanks for the video. I'm pumped to get my BlueBus (1st order group!).

[@mikejohnson1228]

the features of this surpass anything I could have desired for my non-Nav DSP system in my '05 E53. I cant wait to get mine and install.

[@stevepatrick5818]

Mike..,How well does it work with your 2005 E53? Did you have the original factory Bluetooth module in the vehicle?

[@slam44]

I just installed my BlueBus in my E39 with a basic cassette radio. It works great and the sound quality is excellent. (Turn phone to Max volume). Big thanks to Ted and Ryan!

[@Tuoppi39]

Did you have dsp or m audio? Interested becsuse I have basic hifi system...

[@mikez9642]

Very helpful video. Thank you for putting this together. I didn’t make the last round but will order during the next batch. My M5 needs this.

[@GstarCurtis]

I cannot wait for this to open up for the next batch of orders. After I saw your first video on this, I was hooked.

[@suschords]

Have you gotten yours yet?

[@GstarCurtis]

@@suschords Not yet, im still waiting. I have pre ordered though.

[@mattpolhamus9194]

Just installed mine, super easy and works great! Thanks Ted and Ryan!!

[@ottobong]

Matt Polhamus hey how did you order yours? I emailed him no response..thanks

[@mattpolhamus9194]

ottobong sorry for the late response. I ordered from the blue bus website back in December or so. I think they are backed up at this point. www.bluebus.dev/

[@ottobong]

Matt Polhamus no problem! Thanks for the response, finally got hold of him and mines on order!

[@your-mom_was_here]

0:15 Love the plates :)

[@dennisnelson9124]

Excellent information, I have a E39 2003 and I would love to add this as a upgrade to it. Thank you very much for the update

[@omfgwtfbbq90]

It's great to see there are still people adding new features to the original navi/radios! However I bought an M-Package E39 530d Touring (manual) recently which had an android headunit installed with the K-Bus app, which has all these features already and even more. Unfortunately it's not as premium refined feeling as the OEM 16:9 screen from BMW though, both software and hardware wise, however it's not that bad to be honest. It works just fine and it's also Android so it has about any feature a smartphone has. I wish some guy could make a module like this BlueBus for the OEM Navi screen but with all the Android K-Bus features. That would be perfect!

[@paulsachs9983]

Thank you so much for this. I can make somewhat of a video for those of us with the business units. Also a trouble shoot/navigating the business unit guide with missing pixels (need to swap in my good unit, just have done it yet). Thank you so much for this ted and ryan. Will be bringing my 02 Le mans blue 540i up to par with my wifes macan.

[@E39Source]

A video on the MID would be great and I would love to post it here on E39Source. If you're interested in contributing, please reach out [e-mail]

[@Tuoppi39]

That would be a huge one if you could👌🏽👌🏽

[@yannisx3209]

I remember this start up(in ur ohio garage with the old s62) is from a trip you documented years back

[@E39Source]

Yes, that's the clip!

[@fpb3rd]

03 E39 nav bracket has the studs which the BlueBus slips over perfectly as long as you have the cable length like Ryan does for mounting on top of nav unit.

[@tass2001]

Shhh, those extension harnesses are manual labor for me! :P

[@okdude5536]

Dope!!!

[@mailman1980]

Already waiting mine!

[@avuscnscot]

Thanks for this video, Ryan. I installed mine today and it was a big help just knowing I was looking at the right thing. Its unreal how much better the audio is over the DSP and BlueBus vs the adapter I was using with the analog cable. I do have a question... since I have another device that used to plug in and would use the old 6 pin audio, could I split the power and have that available as well, like how you have the BlueBus and your Sirius receiver? If so, is there some easy way to split the power? Nothing i have has an option for that secondary cable you have with Sirius.

[@tass2001]

That would not be possible, unless it's a Sirius tuner. Most devices that use the CD Changer wiring harness "emulate" the CD Changer on the I-Bus, which would conflict with the BlueBus.

[@farmerjoe8169]

I need this and I need that radio lol. Time to spend some money lol

[@kaszel2122]

BlueBus pre-orders open again!

[@joseluistemino1294]

Hello!! How can I get one?? Are the.orders opening any time soon?? Can I get it in Madrid, Spain?

[@joseluistemino1294]

Thanks

[@henrydelgado4006]

Could you post the connector part numbers for the SES to six pin connector on the Bluebus?

[@florinlepadatu5648]

- any chance to see who is calling on future firmware updates? - put the caller name on mid or nav display? - comfort blinker and lock/unlock works as it should? especially unlock witch is not natively implemented - I had some bad experiences with mod light2 module

[@notimeboy]

Thanks for taking the time to provide an instructional vid. Question: If I'm robbing power and digital from my cd changer, in effect, the cd changer will be non-op so logic would dictate removing it. Agreed? This would also provide a location to secure the Bluebus.

[@E39Source]

It will indeed be inoperable. I chose to leave mine in case I have the burning desire to play a CD, I could easy remove the 3-pin and digital DSP cable and restore CD changer functionality.

[@chrisgerarddelossantos2103]

I just ordered one for my 2004 BMW 330i ZHP with Navi and HK system. Could you please make a video for the E46? I would greatly appreciate it!!

[@E39Source]

If your E46 has navigation, it'll be about the same as the E39 here. You'll use the 6-pin analog DSP and 3-pin from the CD changer for connectivity.

[@justinnarz3431]

Question, I hope you can help and answer me as soon as possible 👍 would you buy a 2003 e39 m5 175k mileage car for $15k?

[@Binghatz]

Would be cool to see this setup install in non navigation radios. Like the business cd radio like I have in mine so I know what to do when my blue bus shows up

[@tass2001]

I need to document the MID UI, but it's pretty intuitive. I am able to make use of the screen space where the buttons are, so you have visual aids as you're navigating it.

[@E39Source]

I have a video coming on the CD53 (E46 Business CD Radio) UI. It should help with the MID as well.

[@Schmeax1]

haha You license plate is BOSS mode :D nice

[@makosasimakis118]

On bmws without navigation screens how do you set up the connection ? How do you know what to press ?

[@E39Source]

I demo the BlueBus on an E46 with the CD53 radio here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJ21iZ94ertjqtU

[@PursuitMode2011]

Ryan I ordered the Blubus from ECSTUNING for my 2002 540i 6-Speed manual. I also purchased the factory overhead microphone piece that I plugged in the oem plug. Do I need to buy some sort of additional harness for this phone to work via bluetooth as you me mentioned? Im still awaiting for the blubus over 2 months since I ordered it but ECS delaying. Thank you in advance.

[@E39Source]

Yes, you need the TCU adapter cable from Ted/ECS. Please use this link to view the adapter guide (red button): www.bluebus.dev/orders/checkout

[@littlemanTy]

I have a 2004 bmw 325ci convertible which pins do I need to remove on the 54 pin connection for the TCU Bluetooth?

[@E39Source]

Please contact Ted for support at [e-mail]

[@alphakennybodyy]

I’d like to see the comfort unlock when you put it in park!

[@tass2001]

This isn't out of the question, but I haven't even considered it because I have a six speed. I'll have to look over known I-Bus frames to see if the gear selection is ever broadcast.

[@portermcsorley]

So I’ve got the basic little pixel screen. In typical E39 fashion, a good portion of those pixels have left the building. With that being said, would it even make sense to buy a BlueBus? I’ve been wanting to invest in a Chinese Android head unit with CanBus integration. I’ve heard good things about those. Then again, my $15 Bluetooth FM transmitter works well enough most of the tine.

[@tass2001]

It depends. It'll work nonetheless, and you could totally get the screen repaired (several shops do it, look on eBay). In the end, you'll come out a bit cheaper (but not by much) than the Android Head Unit and whatever brackets you'll need to make it fit correctly. Personally, I like the OE look, which is why I developed the BlueBus.

[@pedroabreu3612]

Boa tarde eu tenho um e46 coupe 2005 e recentemente apliquei o sistema navegação original Gostaria de saber o que preciso para aplicar o blue bus

[@wecookingwithdrew]

Hey would you be able to post a walkthrough video on how we can check what level software we have installed on our BlueBus and how we go about upgrading as the updates roll in on Ted's open source site? Thanks in advance!

[@E39Source]

I do plan on doing that! New software adds new menus/features too, which I will soon demo in a new video.

[@omfgwtfbbq90]

Can you install one if you have original 16:9 navigation, but no cd changer cable/preparation?

[@E39Source]

I believe you do need the CD changer preparation, but Ted might have an adapter/harness for you. Reach out to him directly at [e-mail]

[@toymachine2020]

Will the Digital DSP Audio Cable you have listed in the video description work in a 2002 530i with non premium sound? Thanks

[@E39Source]

It would work with DSP (black amp), but not the base hi-fi system. For that, you'll need to use the analog 6-pin.

[@aidencrewes4807]

Hi i just bought the bluebus and installed it into my car all wires in blue light is on the box but when i go to select mode there just isn’t any bluetooth option only one that looks like a cd changer do you know what to do?

[@E39Source]

The BlueBus emulates the CD changer, I suspect it is that. If not, BlueBus support can be emailed at [e-mail].

[@EHLee1]

Can you give me more information for blue SES wiring? I didn't order wire together, So want make my own

[@E39Source]

BlueBus support: [e-mail]

[@tass2001]

Pin 1 is the top row, lowest pin (closets to the 6 Pin Audio) Pin 4 is the bottom row, lowest pin (closets to the 6 Pin Audio) right under pin 1 BlueBus 1 - Mute - SES 22 BlueBus 2 - Mic Neg - SES 8 BlueBus 3 - Spkr Neg - SES 12 BlueBus 4 - Tel ON - SES 18 BlueBus 5 - Mic Pos - SES 9 BlueBus 6 - Spkr Pos - SES 13

[@purplethumb5585]

Will this work in my 06 X3. It has the business radio with cd. No changer. And no big display but it looks like it has a nav unit in the back

[@E39Source]

The BlueBus does work on the E83 X3. It will plug in to your CD changer prewiring.

[@mikejohnson1228]

Ryan, Off Topic, what software did you use to code off your climate controls upon startup?

[@E39Source]

I have not made any coding adjustments to my climate controls, what do you mean?

[@Harry244ful]

Hi Ryan! Hope you are well! Since this video has there been any new features added to the Blue Bus?

[@E39Source]

Hello! Several features have been added, yes. The BlueBus now supports coolant/oil/ambient temperature display (oil temp not supported on M5s), day-time running lights for halos, enhanced hands-free calling, and various other fixes and improvements. Release notes for software versions are provided at bluebus.dev

[@Szelma1981]

It would be great to see folding mirrors option after close the car. Is it possible ?

[@E39Source]

That feature will come in a software update!

[@ahmada2156]

it's can work with a BMW E 70 X5 I have all the feature you said about except the Bluetooth feature my car 2009

[@tass2001]

I'm sorry to say this is not compatible with the E70 :(

[@davesmith6128]

Ryan, I have Business CD/MID-finally figured out how to connect the unit via bluetooth. All music/song info showing up on the instrument cluster display, but no volume! Yes, it is up on phone and radio, but nothing. The radio works fine. Any suggestions?? Frustrating to be so close yet so far. Also, someone needs to do an elaborate video of how to connect this to a MID. Not as intuitive as the GPS unit you have. Would love to get into the "settings" portion with the MID, but not sure you can. Thanks

[@E39Source]

I did a CD53 installation / demo here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJ21iZ94ertjqtU Volume not working means there is a connection problem somewhere. I recommend you contact Ted for customer support.

[@Lodreus]

That's a really nice looking stereo unit. On Amazon UK I hardly see anything decent and yours looks good. Where can I get one?

[@E39Source]

The BlueBus is open for pre-order NOW at www.bluebus.dev. The 'stereo unit' or 16:9 navigation display is original to the car.

[@travalash]

Just curious about the DSP. I have a Bluebus installed and had both the Analog and DSP mini coax hooked up to it. Today I noticed that in the settings it has always been set at Analog. When I switch to DSP there is no sound. I know my car has DSP, but wondering if i cannot have both the analog and digital connected at the same time? I saw you mentioned you can only use one, but not sure if thats just in regards to setting or actually plugging them in. Thanks

[@E39Source]

I have both plugged in on my M5 as well, no problem with that. Ensure that the other end of the black coaxial DSP cable is plugged into the top of your black DSP amplifier. If so, you still have no audio, disconnect the DSP cable from the BlueBus and use a tiny flat-head screwdriver to gently press the internal prongs on the cable closer to the center. These are known to fatigue over time and not make proper contact with the BlueBus. Moving them closer the center should restore connection and the audio feed. You can also do this on the amplifier side of the cable.

[@travalash]

@@E39Source thanks for the info, appreciate it!

[@likinit121]

confused about the big blue connector for the phone, i thought that was supposed to plug into the Blue Bus? Where did it go?

[@E39Source]

Big blue connector is used for the telephone functionality (optional). It plugs into the BlueBus with an adapter that uses the 6-pin rectangular connection on the BlueBus. Not all E39s will have this connector, some newer ones have a 54-pin black connector.

[@HillBent]

I have a 2001 m5 with intravee 2 Alpine ipod adapted already installed. Is the bluebus compatible with this wiring? Are there any instructions and/or diy for this install ?

[@tass2001]

You cannot retain the Intravee 2 if you get a BlueBus. Plus, there's major feature overlap in terms of the extras found in the IV. Of course, being a more mature product, the IV has more features. Thanks! -Ted

[@maeu59]

I have a 2005 330ci all pre wired what exactly would I need? Any additional wires or is the kit complete?

[@tass2001]

If you want to make calls with the BlueBus, you should also get the telephone adapter (which is $25 extra). Otherwise, it's plug and play.

[@2ndProtects1st]

I got mine within the plastic box.. I also have another problem the previous owner installed a usb grom possibly spliced in.. could locate the cd changer plugs.. ughh

[@tass2001]

Email me at [e-mail] if you need help :)

[@GiannisTsolakidis]

How does this work? I mean, how is this thing adding a new “mode” to the display? Is it “exploiting” the old wired telephone feature and changing the text on it? For example where it says “Bluetooth” on the top, it’s supposed to say the cellular network name? How??

[@E39Source]

This product uses the CD changer wiring which has an IBUS pin on it. The BlueBus emulates the CD changer but is much more useful and adds new logic to the IBUS circuit to add these new features and functions.

[@jewnak3r]

I cant get any sound of my bluebus (e53) with analog dsp, uses the 2 cables from cd changer only

[@E39Source]

Make sure the audio output is set to analog in settings. If that doesn't work, reach out to Ted directly at [e-mail]

[@tamatomlinson]

I have an L322 and my CD changer is in the glove box, how do I go about installation for my car?

[@E39Source]

I have zero experience with Rovers, but the BlueBus replaces the CD changer, so I assume it'll go in the glovebox.

[@jamiewilliamson9376]

Anyone know what that phone cable is? I added the mic but dont seem to have that microphone cable?

[@E39Source]

This is the phone cable that Ted offers (when available) with the BlueBus. More at www.bluebus.dev

[@Andi11144]

showing the connectors in detail would really help. in europe nothing is prewired and I'm trying to figure out which connectors to buy.

[@E39Source]

The CD pre-wiring connectors should be easy to find, though I will do a better job of showing the connectors in detail in the future!

[@Andi11144]

@@E39Source all EU model cars come without any prewiring

[@fredeseb]

I just installed a Bluebus in my e39 with analog dsp but nothing is changed in the radio?

[@E39Source]

It doesn't show up while cycling through the available inputs (modes)? Contact Ted for support at [e-mail]

[@henrydelgado4006]

I ordered and received the unit from ECS Tuning. I came without any documentation or instructions. I would like to know where I can source the cable adapter to the "blue" connector. On the comments below, it states from bluebus.dev, but that is not correct. Thanks for your reply!

[@tass2001]

For what it's worth, you can buy it from the BlueBus website by going into the order page and setting "Units" to 0, then clicking "Add Telephone Adapter". It's not intuitive, I know, but as I don't have stock, I'm trying NOT to sell any adapters by themselves.

[@FrederickWalters-vx4jt]

More like question can i use my cd with slave cable without sirus radio .

[@E39Source]

The slave cable is for use only with the Sirius radio to add the CD changer to the circuit.

[@littlemanTy]

I have a 2004 bmw 325ci convertible. I was wondering if it has the digital DSP in my car since the car is pre wire for the 6 docs changer?

[@E39Source]

Littleman 265 No E46 has digital DSP, you will have the six pin near the cd changer to use with the BlueBus!

[@littlemanTy]

E39Source thank you for your help and I can’t wait to get the bluebus.

[@bootayyshakin]

I’m guessing those settings aren’t available on the regular business cd player?

[@E39Source]

Most of them are actually!

[@MHD_85]

Hi Ryan Is there a way to make Angel Eyes light up even during the day? Like modern cars, daylight The second question is how to make the car's external lights turn on when I press the car opening and the car is locked by the remote control

[@tass2001]

I'm the creator of the BlueBus -- what you want is commonly referred to as "Angel eyes as DRLs" and "Welcome Home" lights. These features will make their way to the BlueBus in due time.

[@MHD_85]

Does this product meet my order? Where is it sold and how much is it?

[@tass2001]

@@MHD_85 - No, not currently, but it will at some point in the next few months. It's on soft backorder at www.bluebus.dev :)

[@vb6110]

Hi. I am wondering where I can find the microphone adapter cord?

[@tass2001]

Email [e-mail] please

[@CallFromNoobs]

Is Bluebus compatible with DSP 1 and DSP 2? Keep up the good work and effort you put in these cars!

[@E39Source]

What do you mean by DSP 1 and 2?

[@CallFromNoobs]

@@E39Source Apparently there were two versions of the DSP amplifiers: DSP 1 and DSP 2. If I'm not wrong DSP 1 was installed until 1998/1999 and after that BMW installed amplifiers that were produced by Lear until the end of production. Here is a picture of the sticker on the DSP 2 amplifier: www.google.com/search?q=bmw+dsp+2&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiWnLPdj47oAhXO-aQKHQGIDhgQ_AUoAnoECAwQBA&biw=1920&bih=979#imgrc=F6Q0EJ4u1YlpEM

[@tass2001]

@@CallFromNoobs is DSP 1 made by Phillips? If so, yes, that's compatible. It's what I use on my test bench. I'll verify the build date on the DSP soon.

[@E39Source]

@@CallFromNoobs Yes, DSP of this generation should all be the same and compatible.

[@CallFromNoobs]

@@tass2001 Yes, it's made by Philips! Thank you for the quick response. Can't wait for the Bluebus to go on sale again!

[@MilusX]

Will it work if I don't have dsp?

[@berkeleydojah]

Ryan will this allow me to use the prewired wires that go to the microphone where the interior light buttons are?

[@E39Source]

Yes, assuming you have the BlueBus phone adapter cable as well.

[@berkeleydojah]

@@E39Source gonna buy it, im over grom audio..

[@williamskagen9901]

Will the next batch of preorders open any time soon now with the crisis and all? Cant wait to buy me one! :)

[@tass2001]

It'll open today or tomorrow. My supply chain is basically unaffected, and I'm not dead (or sick) yet! :)

[@williamskagen9901]

@@tass2001 Heh, good to hear ^^

[@AfrozMunshi]

Ryan, does the "Bluetooth" option show up on your system when you toggle different medias because you have the MB53 radio or would it even show "Bluetooth" if you have BM43 ? Hope I am asking it correctly. On my system, currently, without bluebus, I only see CD, Tape, FM. Once I install the Bluebus (disconnecting/removing CD changer), would it say "Bluetooth" OR "CD"?. Please advise and thank you. I have a 2001 E38 (Build Date - 12.06.2000)

[@E39Source]

The BlueBus replaces the CD changer and will show "Bluetooth" when cycling through the inputs. I am not familiar with the BM43 radio module though, you may want to reach out to Ted for support clarification. [e-mail]

[@AfrozMunshi]

@@E39Source Thanks Ryan.

[@tass2001]

@@AfrozMunshi - You have a C43 in the E38 and it is fully supported, just as well as the BM53 portrayed in Ryan's video :)

[@AfrozMunshi]

@@tass2001 Perfect. Thanks Ted. And I read your comments on the forum about how your bluebus re/overwrites CD to Bluetooth once initiated. That's brilliant. Thanks for the great work. Can't wait to get mine 😊

[@DeathDude18121]

So does this not work without the analog DSP 6 pin cable? Because I connected the rest and when I cycle through media it only goes to FM, and CD. And I can't find it in my Bluetooth connections

[@DeathDude18121]

in case anyone else runs into this issue and you have a MKII nav unit and it shows CD 07-01: connect the bluebus via USB to your computer and follow the steps in this link github.com/tedsalmon/BlueBus/wiki/Accessing-the-Terminal then once you have putty running enter the following command and hit enter: set ui 2 disconnect bluebus from your computer, and it should work now. P.S. you can do this while bluebus is connected to the car, the only thing thats different is that after you finish everything above you will need to unplug and reconnect the 3-pin.

[@E39Source]

The 3-pin connector from the CD changer is what gives the BlueBus power, and will allow it to wake up, show in the modes list, and connect to your phone. The 6-pin is purely for audio.

[@Chris-Workshop]

I'm trying to install my unit. after connecting the 3 pin power and 6 pin audio all i get in my nav display is "CD1" and on the other slots "no disc" i dont see any menu or bluetooth on the dashboard. what am i doing wrong?

[@E39Source]

Are you using the 3-pin connector from the CD changer? Contact Ted or support: [e-mail]

[@Chris-Workshop]

@@E39Source yeah i did contact him. seems right now its not fully compatible with the BM24 radio unit. he's working on it.

[@soldaat24-channel]

Chris's Tech Box got it to work somehow? Im facing the same problem. Dissapointed after paying 200 usd. Hopefully it gets fixed soon :/

[@Chris-Workshop]

@@soldaat24-channel yeah its working ok, still bit glitchy but mostly usable. not sure if i can link the firmware here, let me try: t3ddftw.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/BlueBus/firmware/bluebus_1_1_11.hex . you need a laptop, usb cable and the update software

[@Chris-Workshop]

@@soldaat24-channel but maybe you wont have to do that yourself, since you have to send it in now for repair, as we found out today 😂🤦‍♂️

[@xbmh96]

On my e38, the cd changer 3 pin connector is much bigger then the one that fits on the bluebuss, have i missed a convertion vire or something?

[@xbmh96]

I also have two dsp cables in my video module is theese the ones i want to use?

[@E39Source]

If that is before ~2000 it may be M-bus not IBUS. I would contact BlueBus for support options, [e-mail]

[@xbmh96]

@@E39Source yeah already figured out and sendt mail 😄

[@mra4107]

Recently got my BlueBus, and have had a hell of a time trying to find a 3 pin and 6 pin pre-wired bundle to hook it up. I have a 2009 BMW X3, and it seems that my hi-fi stereo is not pre-wired for satellite radio in the trunk nor is it pre-wired for the cd changer under the centre armrest. So... I'm screwed? Ted sent me an extra long phone wire to go from my oem Bluetooth module in the trunk with the original intention for it to run to the centre armrest (where the cd changer wires should be). Having discovered that I do not have the wiring for the cd changer there, could you let me know if my next plan/idea has any merit: to place the BlueBus under the driver's side dash and run wires from the head unit and the trunk to there. 1. I ran the 10 foot phone cable supplied by Ted from the trunk to the driver's side under the dash; 2. If my car is not pre-wired for any additional inputs (neither satellite radio nor cd changer), can I order the 3 pin and 6 pin wiring harness from the dealer (?), plug it in to the back of the business cd head unit, install the missing cd changer fuse, and run the new harness to the driver's side dash? (From the look of it, it would be infinitely easier to run the cables this way rather than trying to run them under the carpet from the trunk and from the head unit to the space under the arm rest). Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

[@E39Source]

A 2009 must be pre-wired, as even the 2000 model cars were. I am less familiar with the E83 X3 platform, so I am not sure where the wiring would be. I would want the BlueBus installed wherever the 3-pin CD changer wiring is. I would all but guarantee that you are pre-wired for this. These wires are part of the factory harness and cannot be purchased separately.

[@mra4107]

@@E39Source Appreciate the reply. I'm calling my dealer on Monday and going to ask them to confirm what pre-wiring I have based on my VIN. I've looked very carefully in the cavity under the front centre armrest for the cd changer pre-wiring bundle, but no success, and there's definitely nothing in the trunk. I've also reached out to Ted for his advice on how to proceed. Hoping to hear back from him soon - I really want to get this thing working!

[@E39Source]

@@mra4107 Sometimes prewiring bundles are buried down under other trims, other wiring looms, etc. It's got to be there somewhere.

[@pdcichosz]

I don't have a changer nor the installation for it. Does it mean BlueBus is not an option for me? :(

[@E39Source]

Without the CD changer preparation wires, you won’t be able to use the BlueBus.

[@lukasvaicikauskas2934]

Already in line for one! OEM+ owners will love it for sure but can it be shipped to Europe, Lithuania to be exact?

[@tass2001]

Yes, I can ship overseas as long as you don't mind paying the shipping :)

[@skazariants]

I am interested in purchasing one. What's the price on these devices?

[@tass2001]

@@skazariants- Pricing is $235 :)

[@bostonaudi]

Why hook up both the analog and digital audio connections?

[@E39Source]

Just so I don't have any loose connections and can easily switch between the outputs while driving if one fails for some reason.

[@TOShorts]

Does the car have a prewired mic for phone calls?

[@E39Source]

If the car came with the factory phone, yes, it will be pre-wired. If not, you can easily install the microphone since all American E39s are prewired for the microphone.

[@randomrain9730]

Is it also possible to use in an e39 touring 520i with an 16:9 navi from 2001??

[@randomrain9730]

And can I still use the Navigationsistem then???

[@E39Source]

As long as it is prewired for the CD changer, it will work yes! And the navigation system will continue to work.

[@jesussanchezgarcia9701]

Hi Ryan, where can I source the telephone cable that plugs into the bluebus unit?

[@E39Source]

www.bluebus.dev

[@jesussanchezgarcia9701]

Thank you! I already ordered a module without the telephone cable. I sent an email to Ted, I’m hoping I can purchase it as a stand-alone.

[@berkeleydojah]

Been having a lot of intermittent issues with my bluebus…doesn’t want to connect from time to time end audio choppiness..

[@E39Source]

Reach out to Ted (the developer) for support. [e-mail]

[@tass2001]

Just replied to your email. My apologies for the long lag -- I must've overlooked your last response.

[@gitaarmovies2003]

How good is the audio quality compared to something like a tape to aux cord?

[@E39Source]

It's much better than the tape, and similar to the hard-wired aux cord. This is the best solution form an audio fidelity standpoint.

[@gitaarmovies2003]

@@E39Source Thanks a lot!

[@skazariants]

Hi Ryan, I have installed a BlueBus module on BMW E53 factory display. Often display shows a "TMC" message and becomes unresponsive. Do you have a record of such issue?

[@E39Source]

Please email BlueBus support for support: [e-mail]

[@tass2001]

I would to hear from you (at the email Ryan gave) about this -- I don't have access to European radios, so it'd be nice to get some logs from you if possible!

[@skazariants]

@@tass2001 Hi will do, thanks? I can even take a video of the issue.

[@TheHOSHA20]

Is the unlocked doors on pos1 should works on e53 ? Thank you

[@E39Source]

That feature is hit and miss on the E53, identifying the GM variant has been a point of contention in development. It will be fixed eventually.

[@TheHOSHA20]

@@E39Source blinkers works, but lock , unlock doors don’t work on e53, I will try on e38

[@mpineda6]

Hello there! I see there are no open orders available right now, I registered myself to get one for my Z4M with DSP Audio. DO you know when the devices will be available again?

[@E39Source]

I am not sure when the next round of orders open, but you can email Ted to find out! [e-mail]

[@tass2001]

I'm thinking about doing another run of orders in mid-July or early August. ECS Tuning purchased 50 units from the current sale for their stock, so you may be able to snag one of those when they get them in stock.

[@mpineda6]

tass2001 thanks! I did not see anything in ECS. Will be monitoring constantly. The product is not even listed yet

[@weezy88420]

I'd love that for my dad's E53. Any chance to get this in europe, best case also in german language?

[@tass2001]

You German's really love your language :). My big issue is that most German words are 17 kilometers long, and that's a bit hard to work with on displays where each line has a limit between 11 and 14 characters :(. I do ship to Europe, though!

[@weezy88420]

@@tass2001 Noo its not so bad 😅 I'd love to be able to help if somehow possible!

[@weezy88420]

@@tass2001 I mean it would be sad if we could get the 100% OEM looks with this great module, but the overall looks wouldnt fit together by language differences between main menu & the bluebus

[@weezy88420]

@@tass2001 Okay just found out that its completely open source & found the UI file with all the strings inside, probably can translate it myself for myself then as long as it will be possible to flash the firmware onto it

[@Theo-gk8lh]

Does it work in combination with the factory installed bluetooth ulf module?

[@E39Source]

I don't believe so. Isn't that completely useless now anyhow?

[@Theo-gk8lh]

@@E39Source so should I disable it and remove it, or won’t it bother the bluebus?

[@E39Source]

@@Theo-gk8lh I would probably unplug it as it offers no use these days.

[@alextorresphoto]

purely amazing!!!

[@TheHOSHA20]

What navigation cd you have ? Thank you

[@E39Source]

I use the latest available maps from 2015.

[@GstarCurtis]

If your vehicle doesnt have telephone/cellphone OEM, what would be the correct way to install that? (M Steering wheel with the correct functions for cellphone/telephone)

[@tass2001]

Simon, If your car was pre-wired for the telephone, then it's an easy retrofit to allow the BlueBus to use the OE system. Otherwise, I can guide you on retrofitting the requisite wiring, but it would NOT be easy. You can use mdecoder.com to figure out if the car was pre-wired for telephony.

[@GstarCurtis]

@@tass2001 sadly it wasn't prewired but I want to fix that.

[@tass2001]

@@GstarCurtis - Is your car equipped with the DSP, or standard Harmon Kardon Amplifier?

[@GstarCurtis]

@@tass2001 I have no idea, where is it located to check? Also would it be easier to communicate over email?

[@GstarCurtis]

@@tass2001 After looking in the boot, it would appear that the previous owner has replaced the amplifier with some aftermarket stuff. It looks like speaker amplifiers you get, in a speaker set.

[@ahmada2156]

The Bluetooth I have it's only for calling but it's not playing songs

[@DiRT3Xbox360]

I have a question... Im one of the first 250 orders, but i wanted to wait for the case. I dont have a cd changer and im from europe, so no pre wireing aswell... I was expecting that, but what i still dont really get is, do i need to put in a TCU? Thanks :D

[@tass2001]

Hi! You do NOT need to make use of the TCU functionality. It's fully optional. Do you have a plan for wiring in CD Changer support?

[@DiRT3Xbox360]

@@tass2001 yeah I do plan on wiring the CD changer, because right now there is not a single wire back there The thing is though, I would really like to use the telephone function aswell and I was hoping that it is enough to wire a third party mic into the roof If it is necessary to have the tcu for that I'll have to do that aswell...

[@tass2001]

@@DiRT3Xbox360 - You can wire everything up front and place the BlueBus in the glove compartment for simplicity. You can also wire in the Telephone signals from the radio into the BlueBus. What vehicle chassis and year do you have? Is it a Business CD/Tape car?

[@DiRT3Xbox360]

@@tass2001 I do have a 525i Limousine built on the 19th of September in 2000. It actually is a facelift e39. I do have the Business CD Radio without a integrated telephone and without a CD changer. And i do still want to put the wires back there, as it fits much better and its not the first time i rewired something in the car. (Installed M5 Seats in my car, which had mechanical seats without seat heating, about a year ago.) I am actually planning on upgrading my audio system aswell, so I could do two things at the same time.

[@mirzha001]

Does this work with eonom headunit

[@E39Source]

No, only the factory radio/nav equipment.

[@joshrainville3558]

I don’t have the blue telecommunications plug. Can anyone help?

[@E39Source]

On a North American car, you will either have the blue, black, or DB25 serial connector.

[@anthracer]

Whoever has installed this on a e46 convertible with Nav! Please do a video. For the life of me, I can't find the 54 pin connector for phone call functions. I took a part most of the liner in my truck.

[@E39Source]

From this link, click the red button to read about what to look for and where: www.bluebus.dev/orders/checkout

[@adnielroman735]

Works on 4:3 monitor???

[@E39Source]

Yes sir!

[@skazariants]

You can get OEM style monitor for 300 - 400$ , loaded with all modern features; HDMI out, Dual dash cam support, TV and more. For Example: avinusa.com/avant-4-multimedia-navigation-system-for-bmw-5-series-e39-m5.html Blue Bus does require some wiring labor to integrate, in addition you have to sacrifice the CD changer, right? I wonder if BlueBus is reasonably priced compared to the others?

[@tass2001]

Hi! The wiring labor can be completely mitigated with one of the adapter harness I offer, and that's only if you wanted to take calls with the OE system, which is totally optional. You do have to sacrifice the CD Changer, but I had no idea people still used those :P. The BlueBus is $235 USD. My target customer is the person who doesn't want get rid of the OE system in the first place, because as you mentioned, Android Head units are only $100 USD or so more expensive. -Ted

[@skazariants]

@@tass2001 Thanks for the reply. Personally, I like the way you made a seamless OEM style integration with the monitor. I will purchase one whenever I get a chance to. -Sergei

[@andream959]

Hi There I am looking at buying a 2003 M5 and I used own a 2001 M5 back in the day hence the nostalgic purchase. I wanted to know if you could help install a new infotainment unit and a blue bus, thank you in advance.

[@E39Source]

Absolutely, are you near San Diego?

[@andream959]

Hi, yes, it’s a matter of fact I live in DeLuz Ranchos which is roughly 30 min from San Diego.

[@andream959]

I’ve been following your channel for years and really miss my M5, I have a few cars and the e39 M5 has a special place in my heart.

[@E39Source]

@@andream959 ​ Fantastic! I *never* recommend the aftermarket Android-based head units. They tout a long laundry list of features, but in application, these are deplorable. Not to mention the atrocious fitment and irreversible wiring modifications they require. I installed one for a customer once a few years ago, and said never again! The BlueBus is the best move, hands down.

[@E39Source]

@@andream959 I actually hear this all of the time. It seems that everyone regrets selling their M5s! Always a pleasure to help owners get back in M5s again.

[@GRM42192]

What nav unit stereo unit is this?

[@tass2001]

The 16:9, the MKIV Navi or the BM53 Radio?

[@vincentask]

What would be a better choice, OG navi with BlueBus or Android head unit with I-Bus app?

[@E39Source]

It comes down to your personal preference. I personally prefer the stock system with BlueBus!

[@vincentask]

E39Source Could you elaborate about positives and negatives further? Or maybe do a video about it?

[@E39Source]

@@vincentask The aftermarket units, in my opinion, look very cheap and out of place. It's easy to tell that somebody has bolted in a chinese-built head unit that doesn't match the rest of the car. The BlueBus can be hidden away in the trunk, and adds seamless integration of exactly what many of us are looking for to the stock high-quality system. Sure, the menus are still 'out of date' but they're period correct for the car, easy to use, and reliable. The Android system will also look horribly out of date in a few years.

[@vincentask]

E39Source that is true, but some of those chinese units look very similar to originals

[@E39Source]

@@vincentask I just have such an eye for detail. They are similar, yes, but not similar enough. And once the display is on, it's very obvious.

[@operaatorkops7829]

Is there a (noticeable) difference in audio quality between the analog and digital dsp? Ordered my BlueBus and trying to figure out the wiring in advance. Seems like I can't find the digital dsp cable anywhere. 525i 2002/11 European market.

[@E39Source]

The digital cable is ever so slightly more crisp, and I do recommend using it. I don't know about Europe, but in the US the digital DSP was done away with in 2002 when BMW migrated from the C43 nav radio to the BM53 nav radio. You can still buy a cable and plug it directly into your DSP amp regardless of which radio you have, however.

[@lufthansatechneat]

@@E39Source Ok and what about a DSP with no Connector? I don't have a Coax Connection on my DSP. Definetly not, so I can't use the BlueBus, right?!

[@E39Source]

@@lufthansatechneat As stated above, you can buy the DSP cable and connect it to the amp on one end, and the BlueBus on the other. Boom- digital DSP. The BlueBus is also compatible with the 6-pin 'analog' DSP cable as well, however.

[@lufthansatechneat]

@@E39Source thanks for your reply first of all! Really love the idea if it comes reality to play music via bluetooth in my car. But as I described theres no chance for any connection at my DSP! No plug, no contact, just no nothing, sadly :-( So I think its not possible for me to try the BlueBus, even I would absolutely like to!

[@E39Source]

lufthansatechneat What car do you have?

[@slam44]

Can you show the installation on an E39 without Sirius and without navigation or is good documentation supplied?

[@E39Source]

I will soon upload a video installing it in my old 2002 330xi, without nav. This may be helpful to you. But otherwise, it's as easy and robbing the 3 pin and EITHER 6-pin or digital DSP audio cable from the existing CD changer and plugging them into the BlueBus.

[@slam44]

Is your CD player still working or have you just left it?

[@E39Source]

@@slam44 The last time I tried it (years ago) it was working. I left it in the trunk even with the BlueBus installed, though they will not be able to work together.

[@slam44]

Thank you Ryan!

[@liamkim0079]

@@E39Source should I plug out the DSP cable from CD changer, then plug it into the Bluebus? It does not seemed to work when audio mode set to digital. Could you advise?

[@andrewmattera6205]

I’ve got a pre-facelift e39, the TCU connector is that parallel style cable, is there an adapter for that?

[@E39Source]

There is a good page at BlueBus.dev that explains which harness you need based on your production date. Do you have the blue SES 26-pin connector? That is what my 02/2000 M5 has and uses. If you're unsure, email Ted [e-mail]