BMW M2 vs Porsche 718 Cayman S | PH Battle | PistonHeads

[@yungdro5702]

m2 just looks so aggressive love it

[@DamianSupra]

Great car the m2 I prefer the 981 caymans though

[@crimsonpirate1710]

If you understand Porsche know this. This is the first attempt at the new Cayman engine, they will get it right in time. You see. Evolution to perfection is the Porsche way. But for now, i would have the BMW.

[@d0718]

as someone who recently bought a 718 (non-S though), I can tell you that on real roads 718 is faster and more fun to drive (even the non-S). The M2 has a firmer suspension (maybe unexpectedly) and you can feel that 140kg or so weight difference. Whereas the M2 jumps around on bumpy roads and you keep fighting for the balance of the car, the 718 stays absolutely planted on the road even when the road surface isn't that great. As a result, you have more confidence, and you end up having much more fun than you would in the M2. Sadly, when I was ordering my 718, the TT RS wasn't yet around, I would be happy to test drive that as well to see how it compares, I think it might be a good balance between the two. But from my perspective of an actual customer, 718 is the car to go if you don't need the rear seats and if you want to have the most fun and fast car on actual UK roads

[@MrAchilles113]

Disagree. I had a 2014 Cayman and it has short travel harsh suspension, tons of interior noise, cramped interior and a rough ride. I'd never road trip in that car. It also felt a bit hollow and cheap somehow, perhaps the lighter weight? My 2016 M2 rides better, slightly quieter, has so much more torque but is also no long distance cruiser either. Honestly, both are very entertaining and put a huge smile on my face, the Porsche mostly for the music of the flat-6 at max rpm, which was heavenly. However, I'd say I personally like the M2 far better than I did my Cayman. It just seems to have a bit more personality, is a bit more practical, and muscular. Now, if we bring my 2014 911 manual into the equation, it gets harder still to decide. That car, again with a beautiful sounding flat-6 and incredible dynamics (once you get accustomed to the rear weight bias), had more personality than either of these two, for me. But its PRICEY. Also, drove an M4 and C7 GS. The M4 was surprisingly dull for me while the C7 GS shocked me with how entertaining it was, despite its horrific, plasticky interior. Still, cost & all considerations, the M2 is my favorite to date.

[@shaylenehoffman2476]

@@MrAchilles113 The 2014 is a very different car to the one in this comparison.

[@muzithandonxumalo9790]

The 718 anyday..... everyday

[@nessuno5403]

It's the best VW Beetle one can buy. Sounds like one too.

[@mpanayi1]

A lot of these comments seem to be ignoring the elephant in the room... that 718 is £25,000 more expensive than the m2. £25,000!!! Sorry, that is just ridiculous from a fun per pound perspective. M2 wins this hands down for that reason.

[@nobiggeridiot]

Not to mention the price difference in subsequent trips to the dealership for maintenance and whatnot. Those carbon rotors are going to be fun on the wallet to replace. But congrats to both for making wonderful little cars. Preferring one doesn't mean the other is bad.

[@xkrnxboix]

You can tell that Porsche 718 Cayman S was very highly spec'ed. I'm not sure why the reviewer mentioned that it is 25k more when clearly at 0:33 the price diff is really 21k. If you take out the Carbon-back seats and the Carbon-Ceramic brakes it will be more than 10k savings. If you take out the Sports Chrono package and those ugly wheels that would be another 5k. That brings you to about a $6k diff from the BMW, without losing any necessary options.

[@paulwood862]

Doesn’t have to be - a base Boxster S is very close in price

[@benpharrison]

In considering a new car I was thinking about the 718 Cayman S or BMW M2 so this video is helpful. The M2 for me looks a little boring and despite being cheaper to buy cash is no cheaper monthly, perhaps due to lacking residual values compared to a Porsche. I've driven the Cayman S twice now, one with a sales person and again on my own and I have to say it definitely is a lot of fun as I'm sure the M2 is. What I loved was also just how easy it was to use as a normal car, it was effortless to drive and didn't feel like a sports car just cruising along, BUT when you switch to Sport or Sport + mode and put your foot down it comes alive! Although I have pretty much decided on a 718 Cayman S I would still like to drive an M2 to see how it drives.

[@felipemautei]

nice driving!! great video! I love this channel

[@fazer12779]

25k left over says it all. M2 with a JB4 :)

[@101ktm]

3:20 says it all. 718 is a true Porsche. BMW is a better car in many ways but on a racetrack against a 4 cylinder Porsche the M met it’s match. Crazy.

[@delboy2596]

I don't think the performance of the 718 was ever in doubt. It's been the naff sound of the engine that's disappointing.

[@HowTo-ys5el]

Great review Golf Clubsport S vs 718 vs TTRS vs M2 vs A45 vs Alfa Quad? (Might be a bit unfair as 3 of the cars would belong to the same umbrella and the fabulous A45 is also due for replacement). Add the Honda Integra Type R old school brilliance into the mix...

[@ggkik]

Not a fair compare though for the money...Should have been 718 Cayman vs Μ2 which cost nearly the same money and are closer in terms of bhp/tone

[@M135iboost]

porshce was always going to win. but I'd much rather own the BMW. the M2 is a fantastic looking car.

[@user-hr2xu1db8p]

I will never get to where I prefer the sound of the 4cyl Porsche. I own a 2017 M2 and still deeply miss my 2010 Cayman S...

[@boblast5582]

you can't time on a track day? where'd you come up with that line? I time myself at every track day I go to...

[@dlg5485]

It always annoys me when reviewers talk about huge price differences without mentioning the cost of all the unnecessary options on a typical Porsche test car. Anyone spending nearly $8000 usd on carbon ceramic brakes, and they're not on track daily, has more money than brains, not to mention all the cosmetic bits with absurd stratospheric prices.

[@winoss]

Audi TT RS vs BMW M2 please !

[@RichardAucockCars]

This is brilliant! Lolz at the edit from 3:10 too... :-)

[@TheJacobshapiro]

The thing I never got about the 718 was that it lacks the two advantages that small, turbocharged cars are supposed to have. It's heavier than the 981 cayman S, and gets the exact same gas mileage. What's the point.

[@paulwood862]

It’s a second quicker to 60, better handling, steering and braking than 981. It has more usable power (from 1900 rpm) and a subjective one, looks better. Quicker round Nurburgring than a base 911 - not sure how many more reasons you need but I could keep going

[@danmog1502]

Nice Video

[@AGC828]

How about the fact that the Cayman is a mid-engine car? Makes a huge difference in handling. :) I prefer the previous gen cayman gts ::)

[@noordada2491]

great channel

[@kvo1976]

the M2 is a better car, the sound and looks agresive, just look the porsche is 25,000 pounds more expensive, with this money you can tunning your M2.

[@muzithandonxumalo9790]

If you drive the M2, you drive a BMW........ If you drive the 718, you drive a Porsche.... One will always be better the other, ALWAYS!!!!!!

[@yungdro5702]

Id rather be in a BMW. Looks and Sounds better

[@LegendInThaMakin]

Arnold Hall I'd rather drive a high end bmw than a low end Porsche.

[@xkrnxboix]

The BMW M2 is by no means a "high end bmw". And in the Porsche lineup, high-dollar (high-end whatever you wanna call it) does not mean more fun or prestigious.

[@LegendInThaMakin]

Qu4ttro it's an m car. An M car is a high end bmw, performance wise anyway. As for Porsche, we'll of course a 911 is far more fun and prestigious than a boxter.

[@xkrnxboix]

+LegendInThaMakin Just like a Cayman S is a high end Porsche vs the Cayman? Have you driven a 911 and a Boxster/Cayman? People who have driven both have more fun in the "low-end Porsche". The 911 Carrera/S have very much become a Grand Touring car. If you get a chance, go test drive a Cayman. It might make you want to trade in your BMW for one.

[@michaelp472]

The 718 Caymans PDK with lowered chassis, 20" wheels, all the "Sport" gear, is the way to go. Car & Driver magazine ran a 3.6 second 0-60 mph with it, and Automobile Magazine hit 186 mph/299 KPH on the Autobahn. M2--really? The car beat the M2, M3, and the M4 on Magny Cours GP Track. Times? 1'59":80 for the M3 with competition pack, 2'01"10 for the Porsche 911 Carrera S, 2'01"20 for the Jaguar F Type SVR; 2'02"20 for the Mercedes C 63 S, 2'03"20 for the BMW M2, forget the M4--way down the list. The 718 Cayman S PDK: 1'59"70. The number of cylinder and engine displacement no longer are indicators of top performance. Porsche has created a supercar for $100,000 US which is stunning. Sound? It kind of like listening to the new album for your favorite band and getting accustomed to the new music...and music it is coming from the new Porsche. It's sound is sharp, aggressive and unapologetic. The torque is amazing, and power and incredible handling trump just about everything else. Should you buy it? Oh yeah. Hold on!

[@srimasis]

Michael P Errm! Don't you think that will be a ridiculously priced Cayman, while the M2 is hardly above 60k with all the necessary options.

[@henzo7087]

BMW is better

[@leonandre8858]

For some reason the person driving the m2 reminds me of statman dave.

[@williamk1800]

Personal tastes: Boxster > M2 > Cayman.

[@matthewrobinson9047]

Euro cars still get 997 GT2 carbon seats - interesting

[@BongWeasle]

Had the cayman, sold it and bought an mx5

[@shaylenehoffman2476]

What insight were you hoping to provide there?

[@andrewbrown5636]

Although the M2 is very capable, owning a car which is based on a basic average family runabout has little appeal. I ended up buying a 718s after 3 yrs with a 981

[@aproductofboredom]

Impeccable

[@fabscams4136]

If I could have two cars - I would have the Porsche as a second car...if I could only have one car, it would be the M2.

[@shaylenehoffman2476]

You've never driven them have you...

[@fabscams4136]

@@shaylenehoffman2476 completely forgot about this comment from over a year ago. I now own an M2 competition, my decision was based on practicality rather than driving experience, as yes, I test drove both cars and the cayman feels better, much better, the steering feedback is is totally different, however I only have money and space for one car and the M2 offers a lot more practicality (more seats, much more luggage space).

[@MagicAyrtonforever]

991 indeed!

[@joeweaver5712]

My god the 718 just sounds awful, such a gruff engine

[@thespectralsorrows]

nothing a full exhaust can't fix though.

[@optidejyadubenko1165]

If it's written Porsche on it ... ; )

[@kirk5434]

Porsche is better that's all we need to know.

[@TheTallAbacus]

25k goes a long way in modifications

[@ethanmiller1050]

There is no way on earth that if I had the money of what the 718 is worth would I buy a car that sounds like a vaccum. Probably would spend the cash on an older cayman/911 or the M2 and have a fortune left over to play with.

[@tomlee45]

When you say the words "its fun for different reasons". you lost. good car though.

[@anotae]

M2 looks superb.

[@muzithandonxumalo9790]

Number 1

[@Neil2022]

M2 has 15bhp more and a lot more torque. School boy errors mate.

[@aidenp5768]

This time bmw has the least amount of money wow never though that would happen

[@aidenp5768]

Top speed of the m2 is 180mph

[@AlexOliver555]

The camera sound quality in the Porsche is terrible.

[@Alby911]

Don't rely on computer/mobile speakers to assess the sound of cars, and especially music.

[@AlexOliver555]

I think you misunderstood. I didn't mean the sound of the Porsche, I mean the quality of the sound as he was talking. The camera mic in the BMW was a lot better.

[@henzo7087]

You could make better time in M2

[@radost0514]

2 sec on small circlet is a lot man! 25k more but wow but that porsche has bespoke sport car chassis!

[@gabrielflores1149]

TT RS please.

[@TheFunkyair]

On real world tt rs

[@vip_supercars3652]

Porsche ruined the Cayman, the previous generation was so much better

[@gabrielflores1149]

M2's rear needs fixing, still ugly.

[@khoaphan8490]

the m2 would be a beast on the track but i'd still take the 718 as a daily driver.

[@hamizi13]

porsche anyday, bmw cannot keep up no matter how good it is

[@lapamful]

Porsche had better pull their finger out. All this green bollocks and downsizing engines is history. Trump's in power, the EU is dying and that's a double whammy to all this co2 reduction pressure on car companies. There's no way a 718 will sell in the US if Trump's going to levy a tax on foreign cars, the 718 will be even MORE expensive, and sorry, it's just not going to be able to compete with all those lovely V8 engines that are so commonplace in the US, not to mention Trump's energy independence initiative.

[@Alby911]

I think it's best to leave the marketing and engineering side of things to Porsche. The company continues to thrive after all these years. At then end of the day, so long as we, 'the consumers' are spoilt for choice - we win!

[@troo1918]

...not a contest at all....the porsche is a tried and true sports car and the overrated, dime-a-dozen bmw is a sports-car wannabe and overpriced SEDAN that still touts itself as the "ultimate driving machine"....

[@TheJacobshapiro]

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