bonnie prince charlie

[@MadMonarchist]

Scotland forever! May the Stuart kings rest forever in the embrace of God.

[@rickdavis6514]

Some steuarts still live. Remember the rest of the prfecy of Pete and when this horrible time rises on the highlands the true kings and lords of Scotland shall rest for awhile just acroos the water and when once again they return and the 13 are summoned again Scotland shall at last have freedom.

[@KaelVidos20]

@@rickdavis6514 House of Wittelsbach of bavaria are female descent of stuart in spain House of Fitz-James Stuart the duke of alba are the male descendents of illegitimate son of King James II

[@marypetrie930]

Divine rule nonsense!

[@KaiColloquoun-gt7kw]

The Stuarts sold Scotland's independence. Charles Edward Stuart was not fighting for Scotland, he was fighting to put his father on the British throne. He was more Polish than Scottish. The Highlanders from Scotland & large swathes of English people, mostly from Lancashire & Yorkshire, backing him were Episcopalians or Roman Catholics who wanted to reverse the Reformation in Scotland & England.

[@PomorskiWilk]

@@KaiColloquoun-gt7kw The English throne is of no interest to me - that is the business of the English. Scots did not want to have Germans as kings, as the English did.

[@mullofoban]

Bonnie Prince Charlie may have ended up a drunken sot but this man arrived in Scotland with no money and no army - yet came within a whisper of dethroning the Hanoverians. Yes, undoubtedly a flawed human but his tragedy embodies all that is glorious and pitifull in human endeavour. Excellent song and video.

[@KaiColloquoun-gt7kw]

Reaching Derby is hardly coming "within a whisper"

[@NeilBrown-rz5ll]

@@KaiColloquoun-gt7kwhe was nearer London than Edinburgh a whisker means near to completing the journey he strived for and that was taking back what was rightly his by birth…the Stewarts were the rightful heirs to the throne,of course people surrounding the then king were a bunch of desperados they would do anything to keep their own status intact!!..

[@PomorskiWilk]

@@NeilBrown-rz5ll In my opinion, the Stuarts should have demanded that London end the Union and take Scotland, and left England to the Hanoverians.

[@NeilBrown-rz5ll]

@@PomorskiWilktoo many lords with lands in England after the joining of the crowns..many fought on the side of the then king of the UK…the lands in England would have been lost if the Stuart’s took control of Scotland….greed was one of the main outcomes of the defeat of the Jacobites…money if not used wisely is detrimental to the outcome of many countries who seek change and independence!!..

[@clairewest2015]

Anyone else hear the bagpipes yesterday? The spirit of Scotland can never be broken

[@alextripney3812]

Hi Claire and they never will.🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@BlackasVelvet]

A beautiful haunting song that goes straight to the heart .

[@raulmundoalvaresrivaz769]

Bonny Portmore (Loreena McKennitt) Great for me too...

[@TMMQUINN2011]

Wonderfully romantic tale of highland clans rallying to their former kings grandson and their gallant fight against a traditional foe. Niven whose father was a scot and mother french is the perfect young Prince, inspiring hope, loyalty and dreamt triumph. In reality never had a hope of succeeding, but it was in the scots character to try!.

[@McroyOfficial100]

Long live the stuarts 💜

[@Gillian1746]

The film is called 'Bonnie Prince Charlie' and it was made in 1948 starring David Niven and Jack Hawkins.

[@Ggdivhjkjl]

Thank you!

[@patriciajrs46]

Agreed. Thanks.

[@jacobkeppler1984]

Beautiful music

[@BillDFC]

God bless Scotland and the House of Stuart.

[@patriciajrs46]

Amen!!

[@alextripney3812]

God Bless my friend.🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@ZeitgeistWI]

The Flower of Scotland is not one person or one figure in history- it is the spirit of Scots who paid the ultimate price to offer a brighter future to the generations that came after. It is the spirit of generations moved to action to preserve liberty and freedom. That watch now falls to a new generation and they must now heed the call. God bless Scotland and let her be free!

[@jasamkrafen]

Greetings from Darwin Cameron of Alaska. My uncle had heard of Camerons from eastern Canada... Anyhow agreed, tears are easily shed.

[@JustaScotsman]

Just returned from a visit to Culloden today............the valour and courage of the brave Clansmen who met their fate that day with honour and dignity will NEVER be forgotten........nor will the brutality and rape of the Highlands by the British army for years afterwards.!

[@patriciajrs46]

I love the series Outlander, and Highlander was one of my all time favorites.

[@Radagast-eh5sc]

🇨🇵❤️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿...🙋.

[@ZeitgeistWI]

I teach history at the secondary level and I don't live anyone else's history, I learn from it. In learning about history, you can't cut yourself off from learning and you must learn as much as you can. Along the way, some people specialize. By learning about the past, we can avoid making the same mistakes in the future. That is what I do. I learn about my heritage and I honor that heritage, nothing more and nothing less. My history is mine alone to make.

[@Aolian]

I'm English but my name is McKay and my heart will always be with the Clan.

[@ZeitgeistWI]

Don't doubt it for a moment, the love for our heritage is just as strong and maybe a bit stronger because we have been away. Put yourself in our place. We have heard the stories and read the history and lived with that in our hearts since we were born for most. How does that make our determination any less?

[@patriciajrs46]

It doesn't.

[@DivaJefferson]

I wish this movie was uploaded on KZbin...I've been wishing to see it for such a long time now...:(

[@Outdoorsman1968]

It was a few years ago, but it was taken down a couple of months later. I still love the film, even though it was not a commercial success.

[@apoksi]

archive.org/details/BonniePrinceCharlie1948 here is the movie

[@Outdoorsman1968]

@@apoksi Thankyou so much.

[@apoksi]

@@Outdoorsman1968 you are welcome!

[@alextripney3812]

God Bless the house of Stuart.True King Of Scotland,and God Bless Bonnie Charlie and those who fought and died for him and for what was rightfully ours.🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@alextripney3812]

I agree my friend God Bless The House Stuart and our Bonnie Scotland Forever.I Absolutely Adore Being A Scot.We are a different kind.👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@postkonserwatysta]

Hail to You, Scots, you fought for honour, for faith, for real king; better living under republic than alien kings. Greetings from Poland. For our freedom and yours.

[@Duncansbroadsword]

The name of the film is Bonnie Prince Charlie starring David Niven you can buy it on ebay thats where i got mine.

[@earlofmar7987]

Thank you. I've never seen this movie. I'm learning about my family tree and this would be fun to watch.

[@LordTheProut]

Aukd Alliance !!! Auld Alliance !! Hourra !!!! a so beautiful music, a so marvelous story !!! "L'Auld Alliance n'a pas été écrite sur un parchemin de peau de brebis mais gravée sur la peau d'homme, tracée non par l'encre mais par le sang" - Alain Chartier XVème Siècle ." "Dans chacun des combats où, pendant cinq siècles, le destin de la France fut en jeu, il y eut toujours des hommes d'Écosse pour combattre côte à côte avec les hommes de France" - Charles de Gaulle, Edinburgh, 1942"

[@Gillian1746]

Beautiful song - Bonnie Prince Charlie was considered to be the rightful King of Scotland and that is why he was and is loved even today; he was the grandson of James II who was deposed by six English protestant Lords and fled to live in St Germain en Laye in France.

[@patriciajrs46]

Wow! I looked up ancestry lines: related to all four: English, French, German, and Scottish. I'm a mutt.

[@ThePostbear]

The Great Getaway the new epic based on the life of Bonnie Prince Charlie is being filmed in Scotland at this point in time....release date some time in 2017

[@matrix8930]

For Scotland and Prince Charlie.

[@jeanlucplancher872]

Vive l écosse libre, vive bonny prince Charlie

[@matthewwiddowson9817]

I'll never be ashamed to say that Prince Charles Edward Stuart is and always will be my hero and inspiration. No more we'll see such deeds again!

[@selectheowl]

the guy who legged it to Italy?

[@matthewwiddowson9817]

+selectheowl Ok, well that's just historically inaccurate. He did not flee to Italy, after 5 months in Scotland avoiding capture in Scotland he was rescued by a French ship and taken back to France. In France he spent every effort trying to convince Louis to raise a French army to try again, and then a Spanish army. he petitioned Russia and Sweden to support him and was weeks away from leading a Swedish army of 9000 soldiers but was foiled by the Hanoverian spy's who ransacked the Swedish ambassadors house and found the plans. He even raised his own force of around 60 men to capture London but was foiled when the King didn't arrive. He only returned to Italy 30 years later when King James (his Father died) It wasn't until then that Charlie stopped actively trying to regain the British throne from the Germans. It's amazing how many people don't know their own history and you should show respect to a British hero who tried to save the country from a German tyrant.

[@englishjacobite5317]

agreed Mathew

[@englishjacobite5317]

A lot closer to the throne then George of Hanover though. Charles never wanted to retreat from Derby and was reluctant to leave England but was left with little choice. I believe he fully intended to come back and relieve Carlisle when it became possible. I also believe he vastly underestimated the level of brutality that Cumberland and the Hanoverian army would use against those they captured, which was very different to the treatment of Prisoners by the Jacobite Army. As regard to my getting a life, I already have one and a very happy one it is too, but cheers for the concern

[@Theagchm]

Yes that make his cowardice and murder of his men so much more worthwhile....because he intended to come back!!! Cumberland was a sadistic fuck of a human and had previous so the foreign fop has no excuses for his cowardice and murder of the Scots under his command. I know the Highlanders were desperate but bonnie fucking prince charlie - the Highlanders themselves have no excuse.

[@arialbati4011]

C'est vrai que l'on a le Coeur Serré ! quand on pense à l'ECOSSE et à Bonnie Prince Charles....On pense aussi aux valeureux chevaliers et soldats servant la Couronne de france avec notre héroine JEANNE D'ARC..

[@ZeitgeistWI]

I am ashamed that such a beautiful land so full of pride and promise as Scotland seems all too ready to turn its back on those who came from Scots who gave up everything to leave and start a new life in a strange land. It took more courage and strength of character to do that in those days than to sit back now and call Scots abroad less than Scottish. Yes I am a Scot and an Yank and I bow no knee to any King or Queen and damn glad of it too. I will wait for a day when my Scotland returns.

[@patriciajrs46]

Good for you.

[@ZeitgeistWI]

Personally, if I were living in Scotland, I would feel pretty good about the fact that over 11 million people plus in the United States claim Scottish ancestry. That is huge! An enormous pool of people who are willing to help out the country of their forefathers and their ancestors. That says volumes about Scotland and how those who are Scottish, even those of us across the pond, feel. Yeahbuddy, myself, you , spr65 and others all share a common bond and that is, to me, all that matters.

[@KingEdwardtheTurbulentNeill26]

Not just Americans that have Scottish heritage and ancestry, here in England there's also people who have Scottish heritage and ancestry like myself which my family on my dad side of the family fought in Scottish regiments, one was in the blackwatch during the Victorian era and my dads dad fought for a Scottish regiment in WW2. And I'm proud of my Scottish heritage and ancestry.

[@ZeitgeistWI]

Being across the ocean doesn't mean we would not and will not. That love for our heritage is stronger than any distance and you might be surprised when you see how many Scots too long away come back should they be needed. I would be only too proud to come to Scotland to help her realize her own destiny. On that you can bank!

[@algs229635]

Thanks for sharing, Acerb !! you is great friend From Brazil

[@hahaimpatrick]

It's the same with me. But, I have to say, it is kind of fun to be swept up in the romance of it all.

[@aelmat6036]

Thank's for the video , and the music Loorreena Mc Kenny

[@Rhymemaker]

Nice montage with a good soundtrack. Well put together.

[@zodri]

out of comment... lovely done

[@benigerb]

This man had such courage and spirit in him that nobody can ever attempt to minimize the impact he had on his followers and on Scotland itself... of course he was human, and of course he may have had flaws, but think a bit before you judge: would you have behaved better, if you had to live a terrible life such as the one he had to? He never gave up hope, he never betrayed his people, and he hence sacrificed most of his life to his cause.

[@jerrymorris3466]

My father only seen this movie when he was young recently ordered this movie but won't play on DVD player saying wrong region any help with find one for region 1

[@BuckDanny2314]

"O bonny Portmore, I am sorry to see Such a woeful destruction of your ornament tree For it stood on your shore for many's the long day Till the long boats from Antrim came to float it away. O bonny Portmore, you shine where you stand And the more I think on you the more I think long If I had you now as I had once before All the lords in Old England would not purchase Portmore. O bonny Portmore, you shine where you stand And the more I think on you the more I think long If I had you now as I had once before All the Lords in Old England would not purchase Portmore. All the birds in the forest they bitterly weep Saying, "Where will we shelter or where will we sleep?" For the Oak and the Ash, they are all cutten down And the walls of bonny Portmore are all down to the ground. O bonny Portmore, you shine where you stand And the more I think on you the more I think long If I had you now as I had once before All the Lords of Old England would not purchase Portmore."

[@patriciajrs46]

Thank you. Could you please tell me who sang this for this video?

[@alextripney3812]

Thank you so much for dictating these beautiful Scottish words.I don’t love being Scottish I ADORE BEING SCOTTISH.Thank you again.❤️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@LittleDragon2000]

@wallyozzy There are a number of books that explore the idea that it was the Scots more than anyone who created Canada. The best is probably "Great Scots! How the Scots Created Canada." It has a good section on the Battle of Quebec/Battle of Canada/ Plains of Abraham The best book on the battle is "1759: The Battle for Canada" by Laurier LaPierre But there is also this "1759: the battle that won Canada" And the Canadian Encyclopedia online has lots Hope this helps

[@tomwotton1066]

A really nice video Thank You Love Tom

[@ZeitgeistWI]

Scotland, Ireland and Wales can all realize their potential and their bright futures and I hope that I am alive to see the Scotland of my dreams and my heart become independent of ANY outside influence and rule herself. Thanks much for your comment in reply to mine. I appreciate your comments and opinions and appreciate your bringing another point of view to the conversation. Take care.

[@jockstewartredmond1093]

ENTIRE FILM ON SATURDAY ON TV 2PM I HAVE THE RARE VIDEO OF IT FOUND AT A GARAGE SALE IN TEXAS

[@ZeitgeistWI]

Scotland needs all of her sons and daughters, even those who went abroad, to make the dream of sovreignty a reality. It is good to remember and mark the past so we do not make the same mistakes but Scotland must be free and all Scots must come together to make that happen. One Land, One People Free to choose their own path!

[@lorenheard2561]

Very true..What about now with all this forced exile with globalist tyrants pushing us to take the damn poison or no rights to travel!!😡🤬🤬

[@ZeitgeistWI]

All those patriots who gave their lives in the past stand with Scotland today and they wait for that which they had fought for in their time, a free Scotland ruled by Scots and for Scots. They are there with you today in the cities and towns in the glens and the valleys. They stand there waiting welcoming all who would come to the aid of their nation. Who will answer the call?

[@SilkeBrigitte]

What a great video, my compliments!

[@americrevolutwar1777]

@mikeybhoy12345 Thanks everyone! What you said helped, and also reading the book Rebellion and Savagery did as well. Thanks again!

[@BillDFC]

My Scotland will again be a nation one day. By the heart of The Bruce and the soul of WALLACE.

[@Ggdivhjkjl]

A nation is in its people my friend, not in the soil.

[@alextripney3812]

SLANJ MY FRIEND TO SCOTLAND.🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@am1314]

Here's tae the jacobites, god bless them Alba gu brath

[@alextripney3812]

God Bless you to my friend. We are a rare breed.I am so Blessed that I am Scottish.🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@Djunisijevic]

Thanks for sharing acer

[@ZeitgeistWI]

I think we can all agree that most politicians are self-serving and only concerned with their own power but there are some who can and should reach for a higher good and do what they know they can for the greater good. I think, given the right atmosphere and independence, Scotland's politicians might well come together and start seeing themselves with a real opportunity and do some good for the people. What can I say, I am an optimist but I think we all might be pleasantly suprised.

[@robertmacisaac]

@stefansmom Good for you. I'm exactly the same , and I'm trying to teach my 9 yr. old about Scottish/Celtic cuture. He loves this music Can't wait to make the trip.

[@westernwarhorse]

Being descended from a Jacobite is something to be proud of. King James II and Bonnie Prince Charlie only went through all of this because they were Catholic and supported religious freedom. The English were Protestant and wanted to make sure only a Protestant could rule them. All of the problems in Ireland stem from the same anti-Catholic racism perpetuated by the English. If you are disgusted by your ancestors, you obviously have no idea why they fought.

[@JustaScotsman]

Nice one thanks will search for it.

[@BillDFC]

Your eyes have been opened!

[@benigerb]

@UnitedScots - I couldn't agree more... it took so much courage, and, as Samuel Johnson said, "it was a noble attempt". Actually, I've never come across anything more noble myself.

[@ekdecay6371]

Ok its Hollywood fake............but as a scot it still brings a tear to my eye.! Here a toast to the Bonnie prince we would dae it all again no matter the cost.

[@MonaRenee]

When I first saw this film, I really liked it for David Niven's sex-appeal and the beautiful costumes, but it made me laugh out loud that an Englishman was chosen to impersonate Bonnie Prince Charlie ... and that the film was so anti-German. ;-) The historical background including religion, constitutional issues and Great Britain's conflict with France and Spain got totally lost. And King George and the Duke of Cumberland had the worst immitations of a German accent ever. I remember the actors were in fact Czech ... ?

[@oarfrost]

Barget Monika Renate To be fair, David Niven probably had more Scottish blood in him than Bonnie Prince Charlie.

[@ekdecay6371]

Still gave it a go unlike many of the scots at that time .... better to have tried and failed than never have tried at all..!!

[@oarfrost]

EK.DECAY PUNK ROCK Well yes and no. A lot of Scots gave it a go but they were on the English side. I imagine that they felt that they were better off with a semi constitutional German (who probably didn't know where Scotland was) as king, rather than some dim, but energetic and autocratic Pole who really expected the Scots to do as they were told.

[@donaldr.rhodes5465]

EK.DECAY PUNK ROCK you would have scottish descendents join you.

[@yukonnahanni]

PERHAPS, THS IS NOT MY PLACE TO SAY ,,, I love my ancestory !!! But, ,, as sad as it hurts to see the losses in Culloden & the losses in Ireland ... We are a proud People & we , also have travelled in many Lands & Settled , retaining all that is Dear , thru Generations ... But time & the World has changed & Now !! We are needed more than ever , to come together !!! ALL OF US !!!

[@Otylias]

and my king :-) Bonnie Prince Charlie was a great grandson of the Polish king Jan III Sobieski

[@johannfurstvongiallio869]

Muh hero and role model.

[@ZeitgeistWI]

AngusBalfour, I consider myself to be a Scottish American. A Knox and of the Clan MacFarlane who were have defended the crown of Scotland. I recognize and appreciate your opinions friend and this is the kind of discourse needed to make things happen. I hope you will see that as I offer you my hand in friendship.

[@LittleDragon2000]

@oarfrost Galbraith once said that he saw himself as a kind of prophet. And the role of the prophet was "to comfort the afflicted - and afflict the comfortable."

[@ZeitgeistWI]

I see your point friend and it makes sense to me. She needs to be strong to unite and a central figure to help unite her is important. I guess my view was that perhaps, if it cannot be so, we should be prepared to rely on ourselves and then bring back the King. So we are not so far apart in our thinking. Thank you for your enlightened opinion and I hope to speak with you again.

[@elizabethosler]

@gaconnochie Thanks for this info. I am fascinated by the English, Irish and Scottish history.

[@oarfrost]

@ThePoorhillbilly "Charlie and the Jacobites were so close to taking London. why the hell didn't they? " They couldn't have held it. The Jacobites were in an odd position. They kept winning battles but didn't pick up much support., particularly from the French who were supposed to send an army of regulars to their aid. So they had to leg it back to the Highlands before the government got its act together and sent in a first string team.

[@DivaJefferson]

I want to see this movie...but I can't find it anywhere :(

[@BillDFC]

Come now gather now, here where the flowers grow, white is the blossom as the snow on the ben.

[@ashweck]

Have you heard the song "Bonnie Prince Charlie," as recorded by the Clancy Brothers?

[@oarfrost]

@ThePoorhillbilly "They recieved 1,500 muskets, 160 barrels of gunpowder, 500 grenades and about 120 horses from Carlisle, 1,500-1,600 flintlocks in October from the French, 300 men from Manchester. " Exactly. The Jacobite army had about half as many muskets as they required for their army of 5,000 to 6,000 and nothing like the tens of thousands of English supporters that had been expected. And when they reached Derby, they found that Cumberland's army was only 26 miles away.

[@GibsonBagpipes]

Bonnie Prince Charlie starring David Niven I have the VHS of it it came out in the Fifties

[@Ggdivhjkjl]

Thank you, that's what I was looking for. I'd give you two thumbs up if I could. Now any idea where to obtain this film please?

[@marypetrie930]

What! VhS came out in the 50's!...er I think not.

[@greymalkinfilms]

@ogreoh i´m curious about what you mean with the king and the difference between the kingdoms.

[@ZeitgeistWI]

I have said it before and I will say it again, Scotland has a bright future ahead of her without being part of any union and without being tied to policies of a "United Kingdom". Ireland and Wales too. Each should be independent nations working together with Great Britan as a bargaining block in the WTO and NATO. Scotland will lose nothing if it becomes independent. It will lose no allies, it will lose no commerce, it will lose nothing.But it will take forward thinkers to make it successful.

[@lunabranwen]

what year did this movie come out?

[@McAroe]

O flower of Scotland When will we see Your like again That fought and died for Your wee bit hill and glen And stood against him Proud Edward's army And sent him homeward Tae think again

[@knightswoodbear]

Wallace may have been a patriot but he was fighting for the nobility, it's often forgotten that he was fighting to reinstate King John. If he was fighting for freedom it was for the freedom of aristocratic privilege rather than freedom for the vast majority of people living in a feudal society. There were also a great number of supporters for Union and the decision was taken by the Scottish Parliament - who actually drove an incredibly hard bargain with the English.

[@LittleDragon2000]

@gaconnochie Thanks for the clarification. But it's not only the Americans that mix things up. Australians have a bad habit of doing that, too - especially if they star in American movies.

[@orckiller91]

May Scotland yet see her freedom, once more to take her place among the countries of the world.

[@gaconnochie]

@oarfrost Plus back in Scotland the Jacobite govt had ceased to exist as soon as the army wasn't there to enforce it. The prince's army was only as far as Dalkeith when Edinburgh was back in Hanovarian hands - and Edinburgh Castle itself had never been in Jacobite hands even when Charles was ensconced in Holyrood Palace. The prize in his eyes was the throne in London.

[@oarfrost]

@ThePoorhillbilly "this is a man who had miltary training since he was born, and had witnessed battles across europe" Actually, Charles military training was limited to ten days at the siege of Gaeta. He was there as an observer, which was understandable as he was only 13 years old

[@englishjacobite5317]

Greetings to the loyal men across the border in Scotland GOD SAVE KING FRANCIS II

[@oarfrost]

@glasfurd31 "The loudest cheer went up when Bonnie Prince Charlie, who wasn't even the King of Scotland. Whatever else people think of Charlie, he was loved & continues to be loved." That was because he was played by David Niven. The real Bonnie Prince Charlie was a half Polish illegal immigrant. If he had turned up the locals would have asked if he was good at plumbing and how much to fix the sink.

[@Ghostwriter2702]

Loreena McKennitt, "Bonny Portmore" from her CD "The Visit"

[@PTroubadour]

Those of you that have seen the David Niven film, do any of you know the name of the song that runs throughout? The song that Flora's father catches her singing at the start?

[@andrewmcdonald6780]

I believe it is Somebody, version here by Connie Dover. Now this is a poem by Rabbie Burns so that would make it impossible to be song in 1745 of course. My heart is sair-I dare na tell, My heart is sair for Somebody; I could wake a winter night For the sake o' Somebody. O-hon! for Somebody! O-hey! for Somebody! I could range the world around, For the sake o' Somebody. Ye Powers that smile on virtuous love, O, sweetly smile on Somebody! Frae ilka danger keep him free, And send me safe my Somebody! O-hon! for Somebody! O-hey! for Somebody! I wad do-what wad I not? For the sake o' Somebody. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIi3nXyQmKZnhck

[@tommirautiainen8629]

Bonnie price Charlie was hero of scotland. He is our man. He have place in filanders heart. Allways.

[@TheHighlandPiper]

Wonderfull vid I hope you will do some more vids like this!!! I love scotland and his history almost I like the Bagpipes! I think!!! This is the best vid you did?????

[@gaconnochie]

@oarfrost Och it is one of these we'll never know "what if" situations. Another one is what if they hadn't invaded England? What if he'd been happy to consolidate in Scotland. Supposedly Edinburgh was back in Hanovarian hands by the time the Jacobite Army hit Dalkeith. They only controlled when the army was in situ. That may have changed had they consolidated. As for the retreat I suppose one has to take the councils overall view into account. The Scottish commanders and chiefs had no wish to

[@Duncansbroadsword]

@Bagpipermuntagner its a film called Bonnie prince charlie starring David Niven & Margeret Leighton i was able to get it on ebay its a good film

[@ianlogan9415]

This is Bonnie Portmore by Loreena McKennitt, not Bonnie Prince Charlie. According to Loreena it's about an oak tree on the shore of Lough beg in N Ireland.

[@Thompsonf1001]

@donegal2 No man that brings scotland that close to achiving her god given right to freedom will ever be forgotten "for so long as 100 of us remain alive"

[@Duncansbroadsword]

@ bigdeeHD, The song is Bonny Portmore by Loreena Mc Kennit

[@oarfrost]

@gaconnochie Bonnie Prince Charlie got as far as Derby and wanted to continue the march into England. However, his council insisted that the army retreat to Scotland. Who was right? The council or Charlie?

[@JustaScotsman]

Soar Alba...our time is approaching and freedom will be ours again.!

[@ZeitgeistWI]

hydra8888-You are in part correct my friend. While not immersed directly in the current culture in Scotland, Scottish Americans are very much into their heritage and so preserving a part of Scottish culture that perhaps different than it is currently in Scotland. In the U.S., Scottish Americans embrace and envoke their own kind of Scottish culture through fellowship in various fraternal organizations, gaelic language preservation, heritage societies, etc. This is documented and easily checked.

[@settlebrrd]

there is alot of gaelic students in america now. gaeli was aspoken langauge in n.carolina until after the first world war.

[@gaconnochie]

@wallyozzy What part of the Borders did your family come from? I was born in Selkirk, brought up in Jedburgh, and have lived in Kelso for most of my adult life.

[@gaconnochie]

I will get that for you later though might be hard to find as it is more than a century old. It has its faults but does have transcripts of various letters etc which make fascinating reading. For instance Charles seems to be almost traumatised after the Battle of Prestonpans as he can't stand the thought that most of the casualties were English. He writes that he's heard Dutch troops have been brought to assist the Hanovarians and wishes all the enemy were Dutch so that he didn't need to shed

[@MrJimmyboy1972]

@oarfrost he couldnt speak a word of english or gallic, only french or italian, Oh! his mother was polish. quite a mixture for a scottish prince.

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@LittleDragon2000 A good book on the Scots in Canada is "The Non-potable Scotch: A Memoir of the Clansmen in Canada)" by J.K Galbraith. It is the famous economist's memoirs of growing up in Elgin County in southern Ontario and if for nothing else, is well worth reading for the story of when Galbraith was out walking with his girlfriend. Passing a field they encountered one of Galbraith's bulls doing what bulls are supposed to do to cows.

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Of course, the upside of all of this is that Highlanders who fought against Wolf at Culloden fought FOR him at Quebec. The Highlanders charged and the French ran away. 1759 and all that.

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we have traced the paternal line back to my great-great-great-great-grand parents who are actually buried in Greenlaw kirk yard. Third stone in on the right. They were born just after the 1745 rebellion and she is almost certainly local but we believe he's probably moved down from the Highlands at sometime in the 1760s or 1770s but we've kind of hit a brick wall with the tracing it.

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@jeaherendeen I think you mean his grand-father - that is James VII of Scotland and II of England. Once he lost his English power base the Scots Parliament met to decide whether they would keep James as monarch or offer it to William and Mary instead. Both James and William wrote letters putting their cases. William's was concillatory - but James (who had many enemies because of his religious persecution of the Scots Presbyterians) wrote what was seemingly an arrogant letter confirming his

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@dmax631 Of course they were fighting for Wolf, just as the French were fighting for Montcalm.