Bonnie-WI | Is Pro-Abortion BUT... | Talk Heathen 06.18

[@MattMsk]

I think the way she keeps confusing marriage with having sex is telling

[@andrewabuckle8207]

"2 American kids doing the best they can." I lost it.

[@lebojay]

Oh yeah, life goes on.

[@aitorgonzalez4657]

What always intrigues me about people who claim that fetuses “are a human life…they can feel pain”, somehow forget that a pregnant person is a human life, that can feel pain, and could potentially die from a pregnancy. I want to know why they diminish the life of the pregnant person.

[@billmcdonald4335]

Body autonomy, Bonnie. Your sense of morality takes a back seat to another person's body autonomy. Every. Single. Time. That's just the way it is.

[@walnutoil100]

Body autonomy, - except for the covid jab- right?

[@billmcdonald4335]

@@walnutoil100 Not the same thing. That's a bad argument that's was debunked on the very day it was first uttered, lightweight. Go bother someone else.

[@2l84me8]

@@walnutoil100 Taking safety precautions against a virus with over a million deaths is not the same as providing your body against your will to something else.

[@walnutoil100]

@@billmcdonald4335 Not the same thing.- Oh so hypocrisy is foundational for the atheist infanticideist?

[@billmcdonald4335]

@@walnutoil100 What part of "Go bother someone else." did U miss? Ur grate at quotin' me - but U cherry-pick. Like all dishonest interlocutors. Ur shtick's old with me. I do not take U seriously. U are wasting Ur time. Me? I got nothing better to do than keep responding, coz the folks that read this thread will see how to clown with a clown. I'm doin' it for them, see? U? U are just another rando who is gonna be my entertainment for the next little while. So ya better be comin' back with the good stuff. . .

[@terryg652]

I really wish you would've pushed Bonnie harder on Jack and Diane's birth control not working. You let her deflect and not answer it. Because it totally destroys her 'irresponsible' & 'stupid' argument. Also on the 'only an abortion if you turn in the rapist'. Well what if you don't know who the rapist was? What if you're afraid of harm from the rapist?

[@tph2010]

I never understood the argument "you were too irresponsible to use birth control, therefore you must now have the ultimate responsibility stewarding a human being for the next 2 decades"

[@robertshindeliii]

@@tph2010 good point. These kinds of people always worry about the "unborn," but don't give actual babies and children a second thought. It's always "put it up for adoption" (but they won't adopt) or "you dared to have sex, so now you have to live with the consequences." But what about the real children that will grow up in terrible situations (poor, hungry, unwanted, abused, shunned, etc) because you think sex is a sin that should be punished, to hell with the collateral damage to the child. These people grind my gears every which way.

[@nonyabidnazz7487]

my virginity was violently taken from me in the middle of the night by a STRANGER.. I was 13!! thankfully there was no pregnancy.. but.. WHO would I "turn in"??? Bonnie has put herself in a box that she can't escape from and it has EVERYTHING to do with judgement borne of her religious beliefs and NOT from anything solid.. like logic.. reason.. or medical knowledge or legal expertise

[@teresaamanfu7408]

Bonnie seems to be upset because she can’t have kids of her own and it took her and her husband 10 years to be able to adopt a baby so she thinks women should be forced to carry the baby to term so that it would be easier for people like her who are trying to adopt.

[@robertdullnig3625]

Which it would not necessarily even be. Adoption is not a simple issue of supply and demand.

[@nonyabidnazz7487]

THAT is selfish AF

[@brandonschneider4984]

Mind you Bonnie did say in the beginning, that cases of rape or incest were understandable. Then went on further to mention forms of contraception. She Never mentioned "Forcing" the mother to carry. Just wanted to know why people aren't willing to deal with what happens when you have sex.

[@YY4Me133]

@@brandonschneider4984 People *are* willing to deal with what happens when you have sex, and sometimes dealing with it means having an abortion.

[@brandonschneider4984]

@@YY4Me133 Explain. Because there is contraception out there. Be honest IF they can't afford a condom or other means then just don't have sex. I mean is it really that hard to control urges?

[@kristablake715]

Adoption is NOT the answer. Forcing a pregnant person to birth a child is never the answer!

[@laurenferris2223]

And killing babies is the answer?

[@OswaldBatesIIIEsq]

You're absolutely right.

[@PhysicsGuy1000]

What’s your justification for that?

[@nonyabidnazz7487]

y'all neglected to even mention that UNWANTED pregnancies become UNWANTED and ABUSED children!!! do NOT call terminating a pregnancy "irresponsible"!!! it's the MOST responsible thing EVER.. signed.. an unwanted and abused child who is now a great grandmother

[@corky3550]

But overturning roe vs wade is going to magically make parents want their children 🤨🤨🤨 and who's going to love, financially support, feed, house etc

[@greeneyedlady5580]

I'm sorry you went through that, but so glad that you came out the other side. As a former manager with Child Protective Services, I know that not all children survive. Some parents best their children, kick them, lock them in closets or dark basement, rape them, and otherwise torture them, burn them, down them, stab them, and shoot them. Very often the most horrific abuse and neglect happens with parents who didn't ever want to have children in the first place. The new restrictive abortion laws mean they're will be far more women dying from pregnancy complications like ectopic pregnancies (50,000 every year in the US), more pregnant women who are killed by their husbands or intimate partners (now the leading cause of death for pregnant women in the US), far more miserable believed and abused children, and eventually far more criminal teenagers and young adults. Nobody should be surprised when the US crime rate starts to shoot up in about 15 years.

[@crystalw8050]

Well said. You summed up my outrage and concern perfectly. I’m not in academia but I am planning to put together a paper of sorts showing the domino effect for children born to those who don’t want them. Not to mention the negative outcomes for adults of abusive children like poor wellbeing, addiction, chronic illness and mental illness.

[@crystalw8050]

Sorry I mean adults of abusive parents.

[@Irishandproud101]

I love how at one point she’s talking about how hard her and her husband tried to have a kid, so much so that they looked into adoption. Follows that with saying that adoption was too difficult to go through, admitting that adoption isn’t a great solution. She follows up 5 minutes later saying “if you don’t want the baby then have it adopted!” Does she not see the irony there? That’s my biggest issue with the most common prolife argument of “just put them for adoption”. They don’t realize adoption isn’t always a good thing and that’s if the kid ever is adopted. If all kids got adopted it would be a better option but that’s just not the case. They seem to think that once the kids in an adoption center they can wipe their hands clean. They don’t care about the kid at all. They want to force their view upon others.

[@wabbajack2]

Bonnie screaming at 8:55 sums up the amount of logic involved in anti-abortion arguments.

[@wabbajack2]

And again at 16:25. What a piece of work.

[@unkaumanguy1439]

Great job guys! Bonnie is deep into her backwards religious beliefs.

[@barbiedahl]

I'm wondering if Bonnie had her own negative experience with an abortion and is trying to assuage her feelings of guilt because, as she said, back then they didn't know any better.

[@arthurunknown8972]

"Prove" rape or incest before terminating pregnancy? How'd you like that to work, Bonnie? Who decides? What's standard of proof? Who pays for "proof" system? How do you solve timeliness issue?

[@tph2010]

Apparently the fetus can't be terminated because it has to be living evidence against its rapist father.

[@arthurunknown8972]

@@tph2010 kinda off the point don't you think?

[@crystalw8050]

Yeah that argument is completely tone deaf. Do people think you can just show up to court the day after you find out you’re pregnant and the defendant will always be found guilty? Trials can take years. And in a he said she said accusation, it’s not always clear what happened. Not to mention the trauma of a trial and seeing your abuser. Best case scenario (I guess), the defendant is found guilty in an ideal timeline and now the woman is having an abortion at 7,8,9 months? Isn’t that what they wanted to avoid? I just can’t…

[@livingart2576]

Bonnie is too angry and seems to be stuck in a loop. She doesn’t seem to want to listen right now.

[@teresaamanfu7408]

Bonnie seems to be upset because it took her and her husband 10 years to be able to adopt a baby so she thinks women should be forced to carry the baby to term so that it would be easier for people trying to adopt.

[@ReverendLondo]

Kenneth, this video is old, but I just wanted to say that I recognized that you suffered for Bonnie. I understand what that feels like and I appreciate that you suffered through that hurt. You're a good person. Johnny is, too, but I just wanted to recognize your suffering. I'm sorry, man. You tried.

[@sophieevans4620]

I saw a great short documentary where a couple went to get an abortion because they already had a severely autistic child and didn’t feel the he or they could deal with a baby. They were well educated married people making a really tough choice. Imagine standing outside an abortion clinic and yelling “murder!! You’re going to hell!” How insane to just assume anyone’s reason for an abortion isn’t good enough for you

[@yarnpower]

Bonnie needs to understand that all forms of birth control have a 3% failure rate. So that is a lot of unplanned pregnancies. And she can not compare her success with birth control to other women because they might be much more fertile. Plus married women who already have children, get abortions, too. They are being responsible if they know they can not afford another child for either financial or psychological reasons ( like if one of their other children is seriously ill or if one of the parents are).

[@cnault3244]

If you are a Christian you believe that abstinence isn't 100% effective.

[@alicelaybourne1620]

Yeah, my Mom used three types of birth control and now has three daughters. She kept us all, but she will tell you that her hyperfertility drove her to her breaking point when she had three kids in diapers barely a year apart. Sterilization was her only option. I really wish people understood nuance.

[@YY4Me133]

@yarnpower She also thinks that every woman knows she's pregnant in the first month, by her missed period, but some women continue to bleed during pregnancy, and some women on the pill have irregular periods or none at all, so it's possible to *not* know one is pregnant that early.

[@greeneyedlady5580]

​@@YY4Me133 My mother, back in the days before the pill, was so stressed when she left her very isolated family farm to go to the city to go to college, that she didn't have a period for an entire year. It's not uncommon for women who are very stressed, or very athletic, to have very erratic periods. Other women normally have irregular periods. A six week abortion ban means that by the time a woman's period is 2 weeks late (if she has regular periods 4 weeks apart), she's already too late to get a period. A woman would have to take a pregnancy test just about 3 days after her period should have begun, in order to find an abortion provider and get a very rapid procedure scheduled. That's just not realistic. A six week abortion ban is just that: a BAN on abortion.

[@greeneyedlady5580]

​@@alicelaybourne1620 At 23 years old, with 3 children 4 and under, my sister knew she was done, and asked to have her tubes tied. Doctors refused to do it because of her age. She wasn't able to have the procedure until she was 30, and then only with her husband's permission. That was an unnecessarily nerve wracking 7 years.

[@danbailey2964]

I wish you had asked her why aborting an intended or accidental pregnancy is murder, but aborting a pregnancy from incest or rape is not. The fetus is blameless in all circumstances. Here confused logic only serves to show her lack of intellectual self-awareness.

[@honeychurchgipsy6]

Poor Bonnie - she seems like a decent person but boy is she confused.

[@DANISEVIL]

Nope she is obsessed with shaming and punishment rhia ol hag is not someone anybody would want to know

[@vincentsolis5149]

Bonnie's off her rocker

[@honeychurchgipsy6]

@@vincentsolis5149 - I'm not so sure - she comes across as having very limited education and she is arguing with her emotions rather than using any logic - but I don't think she's nuts.

[@vincentsolis5149]

@@honeychurchgipsy6 That's generous of you

[@honeychurchgipsy6]

@@vincentsolis5149 - maybe - I try to be when I can - don't always succeed though. But something about Bonnie made me think twice. I have nothing but sympathy for her - growing up as a JW has stunted her reasoning abilities - she is irrational - but not crazy - we can all be irrational when our emotions are running high

[@DonnaPrather1057]

And, Bonnie, Dear, I was a child of 60’s, too. I will fight for a woman’s right to her body till they lay me in the ground. It’s not your business.

[@TrippyKenpachi]

And I thank you. ❤❤❤

[@annaschofield]

Let’s say she has a boyfriend and she gets pregnant- and now she wants an abortion- ok what part of abortion don’t you agree with? Oooh only rape or incest- nothing like she may die or anything insignificant. As long as it’s quick? How quick is quick?1 week why not 1 month or 2 or 3? What is your exact cutoff and why? Contraception- ok what contraception , what about women who can’t get it? Allergies? Contraception failure is a multimillion dollar lawsuit because you have to keep the child? Is every menstrual cycle that you don’t fertilize a potential life murder? Why or why not? What part do you remember about being in your mothers vagina - were you aware of pain or even capable of being a human with awareness?

[@jessicaashworth5036]

Kenneth, you are doing an EXCEPTIONAL job with you therapeutic communication and civil discourse. Johnny, Thank you to your calmness and NOT the dismissal of Bonnie's feelings and beliefs. Is there resources for people like Bonnie who reminds me of patients in here age group that WANT to understand but have such a conflict or maybe not the knowledge that the beliefs that one grew up with can be changed and ought to be always reevaluated.

[@shinykazzadragon]

Bonnie is judgemental.

[@jonammons5882]

and selfish. "I wanted a baby faster so everyone should have to carry babies to term so I can have a baby faster"

[@elodiemaurel9921]

Poor Bonny is so confused. She mixes up so many different things! She doesn’t take into account the fact that contraception simply fails sometimes. Abortion rights aren’t dependent on how Bonny feels about it, or the perimeter within which SHE feels it’s acceptable! It’s unbelievable to be so riled up about something you can simply CHOOSE not to do if you disapprove of it!

[@demetricorcovelos1114]

I'll never understand why anyone would ever advocate to restrict another person's health care choices all abortion should always be available for any reason zero restrictions

[@MiniEquine]

In some ways, she seems like she might be close to breaking through. It would just take deconstructing some of the walls that prevent her from seeing the reasons why these people might need an abortion even if everything they did was right. The part that got me most, is that she is okay with it for rape but not when it’s originally consensual because “it’s murder”. Well, if it is murder (which it isn’t legally or morally), it would be murder even in a case of rape. You don’t have to like the implications of abortion to see that it is sometimes necessary.

[@caseyconnell9336]

Bonnie is very privileged and unable to understand that others have different perspectives and circumstances than her.

[@gruntybear]

I had to scroll down way too far to find this comment. This was at the top of my mind the whole time she was talking….’geez lady put yourself in someone else’s shoes for two seconds.’

[@alexmarkadonis7179]

If someone is basically ready to give birth and/or the baby would survive outside the gestator, the solution to the pregnancy is inducing labour or performing a cesarean section, not an abortion. This is ridiculous. Permit abortion as soon as possible. Provide sex education and health care before abortion becomes necessary, and it will not become necessary. Make parenthood and livelihood easier, so people can freely have children without guilt.

[@vilmareynoso7343]

So a fetus with arms and legs and a heartbeat is a human but one without is not? Um, okay. My body, my choice whether I gestate or not, period.

[@lozferris1719]

I don't understand what you mean by "one without"?

[@Wilhelm-100TheTechnoAdmiral]

According to Bonnie, a fetus that developed irregularly and only has one leg is not, in fact, a human being. Pray to God you don't become an amputee in Bonnie's world and become a non-human.

[@ReverendLondo]

And you did amazing Johnny.

[@G0thFarmer]

Bonnie doesn't want to face the reality that just causing someone to suddenly exist without a solid plan of what to do with/for that human being is what is wrong with the world. "Dump them in the failing system overflowing with broken unwanted children" is the worst answer possible.

[@edwardwatson9877]

Will someone pour Bonnie a glass of fucking wine? Jesus Christ!

[@Rage867]

Right off the bat she wants to force people to have to justify health care by using not medical aspects of your life. Would you demand that of any other medical treatment? Should cancer patients have to prove they have never been exposed to any cancer causing chemicals before being treated? Is the cancer their fault? No and a pregnancy is no one's fault and if you want to end the pregnancy the only thing that matters is the pregnant persons choice to do something.

[@arthurunknown8972]

Terrible argument. We know what causes pregnancy & how to prevent it. Cancer causation remains a mystery. So, bad analogy.

[@stevepierce6467]

@@arthurunknown8972 We do know how to prevent or reduce the seriousness of Covid infection, plus many other infections and conditions. Oh wait. Conservatives would like to restrict those treatments too.

[@arthurunknown8972]

@@stevepierce6467 agreed.

[@alansmithee920]

Kenneth is a SPECTACULAR host. and johnny was spectacular too. Moar plz.

[@OswaldBatesIIIEsq]

If a young girl or a woman has been raped, should she have to carry a child for nine months and relive that trauma? Abortion should be a woman's choice and her's alone.

[@ryant32u]

Bonnie likes to go off on tangents!!! Good job trying to reel her in

[@Jprimus]

SO, "My daughter is pregnant and cant afford it"...and is THAT the responsible course to take? She talks about adoption being so difficult, and it kind of should be to make sure the parents can take on the kid, but there are orphanages FULL of kids with nothing. I guess that's cool so long as the unborn have more rights than those born.

[@Void7.4.14]

- Getting an abortion isn't as easy as she makes out and it's only getting harder. - Essentially nobody takes abortion lightly. Yes, there are some videos of weirdos joking about it and I've even met a couple of people who have had multiple abortions and still have reckless sex, but they're far from the norm. It's serious and it often weighs on those who have them til the day they die even though it shouldn't. She's making out like people just don't take precautions that are supposedly readily available and use abortions as birth control which just doesn't even deserve mentioning it happens so rarely by such a small population that it's insane to hold others accountable for it. - Adoption is difficult for good reason. As horrible as it is to see people who want kids unable to get them, kids who need homes and families unable to go to them, and as bad as the conditions can be in group homes and the foster care circuit, we don't wanna see a world where adoption doesn't come with mad hoops to jump through. It would be a very ugly one. Idk what incoherent worldview Bonnie is living in where it's murder if you just had sex for fun but it is if someone was assaulted it's perfectly fine, but it's either murder or it's not, the means are irrelevant. I'm glad the Bonnie's of the world have all these opportunities and resources but many do not and that number is rapidly growing.

[@ren17x50]

Just a lot of judgement and opinions based of feelings from Bonnie.

[@LoveProWrestling]

Two minutes in and it's clear Bonnie is well meaning but very confused. I dont think I need to hear her flop around anymore. Heres a like for the vid anyway, have a nice weekend everyone.

[@bigdaddygoon828]

it's crazy how these people like this don't use that same standard for other creatures murder has a particular definition so you can't discard things murder if it doesn't meet the criteria of murder

[@ryandaley3351]

Roe V Wade has to do with the viability of the fetus. Roe V Wade says you can have an abortion all the way up until the baby could be viable outside the womb.

[@duncanbryson1167]

Personally I don't give a 💩 about what stage somebody gets an abortion but the anti-abortion lobby ignore the fact that the vast majority do so at the earliest convenient time.

[@LILITHDMN]

Johnny's face was saying everything i was thinking

[@ry2402]

So frustrating to listen to this caller. Either not listening or can’t comprehend the conversation.

[@R4M2K]

You not being able to have babies is not the concern of other people.

[@cathytadder1760]

I am very glad Bonnie has control over nothing. She doesn’t seem to grasp the whole picture here.

[@lebojay]

She votes.

[@alexmarkadonis7179]

Bonnie sounds almost like a Coen Brothers character.

[@Dizzybee123]

Really weird flex seeing religious people say something is murder, murder is wrong, but also murder is okay *sometimes.* I wonder where else they think "murder is okay sometimes"? Abortion is *not* murder, its a medical procedure. "don't you think it (fetus) would feel pain?" Sure?........... Do they not think gestation and birth causes pain, and/or could kill someone?? Why is the pain of an unborn fetal organism, depending on someone else's organs, more valid than the pain of the person who's organs its hosting who already exist as a human being? A fetus isn't a human being. It is *potential* human life.

[@Dizzybee123]

Adding, this caller was extremely judgemental. There are women who *cannot* take birth control, who are allergic to it, who's body does not process it correctly, etx. There are a myriad of reasons a woman might not be on/might not *want* to be on birth control. For someone spouting so hard about birth control, you'd think this person would understand the side effects and the fact that people exist who medically *cannot* take or use birth control for health reasons or contraindications. Not only that, but there are plenty of women who simply do not like the side effects of bc (depression, anxiety, low libido, weight gain) and do not want to take it for that reason. That is valid. They should still be allowed to get an abortion if they become pregnant and no longer wish to be pregnant. The privilege of this caller is so stinky. Stinky poopy doody. Yes, you still need a medical prescription for birth control and *to this day* it can be increasingly difficult to get a hold of for oppressed people in certain areas, IN THE USA. Many women are allergic to OTC spermicide and sponges/vaginal blockers AND birth control types. They exist. Abortion is not "birth control" its termination of a pregnancy. Plan B is a contraceptive, NOT an abortion pill. Plan B OTC (generic) is close to $40-50 after tax last time I checked. Not only that, but Plan B itself is only effective up to 150lbs, so some women have to buy multiple tablets. I don't give a fricc what this lady thinks about the 60s. "oh it was so hard to get birth control, now its soooo easy" sure, when you're privileged, don't have an issue with the horrible side effects and are not allergic to its contents, or contraindicated because of other necessary medication they have to take, AND can afford it or have it covered by ins. My depression was at it's worst when I was on birth control tablets. I am currently on an alternative that works for me and doesn't give me these issues. It took close to 10 years to not only get a hold of an alternative, but to have my insurance cover it. If my insurance did not cover it, I would not have it.

[@thegreatcanadianweasel9928]

First medical ultrasounds 1956 First Oral contraceptive passed by FDA 1960 Roe vs Wade 1973

[@thegreatcanadianweasel9928]

oh yeah and latex condoms were invented in 1920

[@capthavic]

"I don't think they can afford it" So you'd rather a child live and suffer poverty and hunger?

[@saffronhammer7714]

As I see it, it’s about bodily autonomy . It’s not logical to say it’s wrong to “kill a baby” unless it’s rape or incest….then the baby is no longer innocent.

[@chillinsquirtle]

Very literally being punished for the crimes of their father

[@cathytadder1760]

Love love love the Jack and Diane reference

[@Ajax1063]

One of the points they could have brought up IF they read up more on this issue is that she has her scientific facts wrong. Thus, her passion is misplaced. The brain of the fetus is NOT fully developed at 3 months, hence it cannot feel pain. Additionally, the nervous system has yet to fully form. Physically attacking it would be like stabbing a leg of a person in a wheelchair. The body will react by bleeding but the signal of pain is non-existent, there is no brain to process it YET. The fetus will have to wait around the 5 month mark, right at the beginning, that period right at the end of the 4th month/beginning of the 5th month, for enough development to occur that one can say conclusively that the fetus can feel pain. I really really hate when the anti-choice/anti-women side misquote and misinterpret science to support their false narratives. Science is NOT on their side.

[@dr.fjoer_the_crazy_scienti5841]

A yes its mürder and immoral for doing abortion But their religion and deity and its followers had slaüthered hundreds of millions of innocent people ….. is completely justified 😐😐😐

[@tph2010]

Wow, she is all over the place.

[@banjarqueenee]

Word salad Bonnie!🌶🍄🍏🍐🍈🍇🍉🍑🌰🍒🍊🍋🍓🍌🍅🍍🍆🌽🍎🙄

[@marinagarza1803]

I guess Bonnie's daughter in law now knows how she really feels about her pregnancy! LOL

[@annaschofield]

Or is this a law you want based on your religious belief?

[@markaykeith5316]

Almost like there is this desire to punish women for daring to get pregnant. How dare she!?!?!

[@TheSnoeedog]

I really hope that the nurses where Bonnie lives keep her away from sharp objects and fertile males

[@JDO6715]

Girls will usually know they're pregnant within 4 weeks, but also they might have a spontaneous abortion and never know about it 2-3 months in I think Bonnie might struggle a bit with consistency

[@russellmyers934]

None. Of. Your. Business. Bonnie. NONE.

[@TheDahaka1]

Personally, I think that bringing more children into the world is stupid. We are already too many, and there are way too many children waiting for adoption. You want a child? Adopt one. If you don't have the financial stability to adopt a child, you shouldn't have one even by natural means. Before the existence of an actual central nervous system, the fetus isn't a human. If you believe in souls, there's nothing in the human body except for the brain that a soul can attach itself to, so before the brain, there is no soul. Any complaint about abortions before the brain is functional is moronic and evil. WHEREVER abortion and contraception are legal, talked about and allowed freely, abortion rates DROP SIGNIFICANTLY. That means that if you fight against the right to abortion YOU ARE ACTIVELY MAKING ABORTION RATES HIGHER! You are EVIL in your own definition, because you make adoption MORE FREQUENT. Anyone that fights against the right to abortion is a complete idiot that doesn't understand anything about the human condition. They just want to force people to adhere to their personal, medieval moral code and that abhorrent. Ignorance on human rights disgusts me on a deep level.

[@ReverendLondo]

I don't accept her position, but I feel for Bonnie. She seems like a good, confused person.

[@KL-uu2vq]

This woman is the reason I’ll go to a pro life march this weekend.

[@FoxtaleHi]

Lol I had this same conversation with my mom yesterday and called me a pro murderer. Shrug.

[@robertrathswohl9983]

Education is a big problem in The USA. I doubt that she has ever been to a museum?

[@keithulhu]

Birth control doesn't always work. I have a niece who has a hormonal condition that reduces its effectiveness by half.

[@banjarqueenee]

Bla Bla Bla Bonnie...🤦

[@ReverendLondo]

Sorry you had to suffer through this, Kenneth.

[@uncleanunicorn4571]

I understand her sentiment, but I don't see any such abortion means-testing as practical. Adding more restrictions will just send us back to the days with Hospital Wards overflowing with botched abortion patients.

[@rudai123]

Turn down Bonnie's volume

[@cmack17]

More accurately.... There are measures you can take to reduce the probability of pregnancy.

[@krisaaron5771]

Bonnie, dear, women don't always know they're pregnant until the fetus starts to kick! Obese women may not know they're pregnant until they actually go into hard labor. And if you want to call a woman who aborts a fetus in the second or third trimester a "murderer", then you need to donate every non-vital organ and body part you have to save another human life or YOU are also a murderer! A good friend is in renal failure and needs a donated kidney to save her life. Isn't she as deserving of someone's body part as a fetus? If a woman can be forced to donate the use of her body to a fetus for nine months why can't every adult -- male and female -- be forced to donate their non-vital body parts? What makes a fetus more precious and special -- and deserving of life -- than a child or adult in organ failure? If you oppose abortion rights you'd better get yourself to the nearest transplant center ASAP!!

[@Sunflower-qu9lm]

Dear Johnny and Kenneth, as an athiest, pro choice advocate. Can a man be a woman?.

[@KB-Crystal]

Bonnie is a liar. She at one point said it's not hard to avoid pregnancy because she and her husband prevented pregnancy for 20 years but then admits later on she struggled to get pregnant. It wasn't hard because she couldn't get pregnant. She calls people stupid and she isn't looking within.

[@ryugrieger7244]

projecting.. she said her daughter is so she is just ranting to vent.

[@TheSnoeedog]

do you think she has even the slightest clue that she is explicitly calling for (more?) false rape allegations?

[@ReverendLondo]

Christ (lol) this hurt to watch

[@suburban-vampire]

"oh my gosh, I don't know anything about sex doncha know?!"

[@bttrflykiss7701]

Bonnie…. Put down the margarita.

[@AJ-vm8ft]

6:16 congrats Bonnie, you’re going to be a mother again.

[@PhysicsGuy1000]

Pro choice arguments are so confusing.

[@alansmithee920]

5:31 dude, you're a god. or you would be if I wasnt an atheist. completely thought out question. (that was of course ignored as evidenced by the next 17 minutes)

[@cedarandsound]

Bonnie is having a mental block via her excitement and it’s overriding her ability to converse

[@AntifascistAllDay]

Bonnie seems rather anxious and quick to judge people she knows nothing about, not good mom material imo. No one owes you a baby Bonnie.

[@Djr67]

People put too much value on human life and not enough value on other life forms on this planet.

[@banjarqueenee]

👍🙋

[@Fizbin1701]

So. . .Bonnie believes women have the right to get an abortion. . .but doing so is. . .murder. HUH?????!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[@AJ-vm8ft]

Bonnie is not the voice of the Midwest. Just to be clear.

[@johnatkins3017]

Bonnie bases a lot of life on Guilt.

[@MonicaHernandez-yn8ct]

If you don't want to have the baby, you can give him or her to adoption, instead of killing.

[@TheLegendOfRandy]

How does that solve the unwanted pregnancy?

[@gottfriedosterbach3907]

She talks like she is carbonated.

[@AMore429]

Dragged out useless conversation.

[@KL-uu2vq]

Too many diet pills.

[@funkmasterlovecraft3577]

Contraception can and does fail. Yes, the young are stupid and irresponsible. That's almost their job. Most unwanted pregnancies occur among the young (roughly 17 to 25 or so), before the prefrontal cortex is fully developed. This is the portion of the brain that governs risk analysis and is largely why the young tend to consider themselves invincible. In point of fact, brains of this age range actually encourage novelty-seeking and impulsive behavior. Those who most engage in sex are, arguably, the least able to weigh the consequences. It's easy for Bonnie, as more mature, to judge the actions of the youth, but she is no longer in their hormonal shoes, so to speak.

[@artistjoh]

Dropping the call just as Bonnie seemed to be slowly getting it was an A hole move. Bonnie was confronting arguments she had never before thought about and sounded like she was on the road to understanding that things are not black and white, and you “step in” to end it. Sorry, I am not impressed.

[@johnnyphilindablanq8536]

Apparently you don't know how time works. As in: we ran out of time, and actually ran the show *over* time to stick with Bonnie. If I could have spent another hour, I would have, becauseI think we were getting somewhere with her. Completely unrelated, a great example of an "a-hole move" might be shooting your mouth off in the comments section, completely uninformed.

[@artistjoh]

@@johnnyphilindablanq8536 Thank you for replying. It seems you are a little over-sensitive to critical feedback. Like most people, I know how time works, however, I also understand how diplomacy works in a situation like this, and were it me I would have kept going, even if it meant inviting the caller to stay on the line while closing the show, and continuing in my own time. I guess I would not have called it an A hole move if the call wasn't ended so abruptly, and at a point where it was showing signs of being productive. I found that frustrating, and that is the source of my comment, not being uninformed. I apologize for upsetting you.

[@johnnyphilindablanq8536]

Clearly not upset, just mirroring your language. And I really appreciate thought-out feedback. It's the only way I can ever hope to get better. But I'd love to see how you handle situations like that on your show. Maybe you share a link?

[@ready1fire1aim1]

1) Names of God (NOG) Bible. Critical differentiation between shards and avatars of God. 2) cross reference to the Gods and Demons fandom wiki (for bios and pictures). 3) get Good, nerds 🤓

[@DeetotheDubs]

How is this in any way related to the topic of the video? Is this just some copypasta crap?

[@laurenferris2223]

I am so glad that justice will be served and people WILL be judged by Christ for these evil deeds! I suggest people repent while they have the chance!

[@kidslovesatan34]

Be quiet.

[@laurenferris2223]

@@kidslovesatan34 Trust me! I will not be silent! I do not answer to you!

[@banjarqueenee]

Please get your religious beliefs ⛪ off my freedom!!!.🚫🗽

[@laurenferris2223]

@@banjarqueenee Am I stopping you from killing your babies? No... God has given us free will, if you want to kill your child, you can... I'm just saying, don't think you'll get away with it! You WILL answer to Jesus; there are consequences to these decisions and you don't get to choose those.

[@kidslovesatan34]

@@laurenferris2223 Jesus isn't real though. And you are judging others, including threatening, based on make-believe.

[@nicciswainhi]

400000 kids in foster care system 100000 up for adoption

[@MyFireElf]

15:12 The rage that just washed through me was so strong my vision went white for a second. Are you happy with the world you asked for, Bonnie?