Boogie Cousins & Rajon Rondo have an honest conversation about Rudy Gobert's defense | BULLY BALL

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@sullir9397
@sullir9397 7 ай бұрын
If you're defense doesn't impact winning in the regular season, you can't be the DPotY. Period. Quit saying it's an individual award because it is not that simple. The scoring title is a simple award because it's strictly based on numbers. MVP and DPotY are both awards based off the interpritation of numbers and and other nuances. Just as the MVP can't go to a player where winning hasn't been a factor, same goes where a DPotY needs to prove that that players' defense actually makes an impact. The addition of Gobert gave the Wolves defense a noticable jump. It's more than his individual numbers. It's his leadership on that side of the ball. It's his presence in the paint that allows McDanials, Ant, NAW, Conley and even Reid and Kat to go ham on that side of the court. It's those factors that made Rudy the best defender in the league this year. I fully expect Wemby to fully eclipse his his French predecessor, but it hasn't happened yet. And on top of it all, recent history proves these two fellers wrong. Gobert did impact this series vs the Nuggets, and while he did get cooked by an all time great, just like all the notable DPotY of the past were prone to be, there were at least 4 games in this series where Gobert helped the wolves take the edge and come out victorious. It's true that the wolves needed all 21 feet of their big men to win this game, but it's also true that Gobert, by the mouth of the team and the coach, was the one who brought the defense first culture to this franchise. A culture that is their identity as a team, a culture that defeated the defending champs.
@ryu-ken
@ryu-ken 6 ай бұрын
Gobert sucks brah
@JOSEPHBRUNSONJR
@JOSEPHBRUNSONJR 7 ай бұрын
No shade to JJ Reddick but Rondo should be the coach of the Lakers or a coach in da league. I believe it was him (Rondo) with LeBron that got that 🏆 championship in da bubble.
@MrKcprimes
@MrKcprimes 7 ай бұрын
True but that's the exact reason why LA brass won't hire him they want a JJ type they didn't even give rondo a serious contract offer after that ring
@MrKcprimes
@MrKcprimes 7 ай бұрын
This whole regime has been trash started when they pushed Magic out for pelinka when Magic recruited Lebron there
@jjqq4116
@jjqq4116 7 ай бұрын
da is not a word.
@andremax4947
@andremax4947 7 ай бұрын
He’s a Celtics 😂
@alkebulanlion6198
@alkebulanlion6198 7 ай бұрын
True rondo is hall fame and better player
@lw1745
@lw1745 7 ай бұрын
You can both shut your mouth now because the Wolves just beat the Nuggets and Gobert was a big part on both side of the court, and Boogie is just bitter because he wish he had Gobert's career
@TeeEnglish02
@TeeEnglish02 7 ай бұрын
Boogie was wayyyy Better than Rudy. Only thing Rudy got is dyops
@ThanosDidTheRightThing
@ThanosDidTheRightThing 7 ай бұрын
They beat the nuggets by 30 without Gobert lol
@ThanosDidTheRightThing
@ThanosDidTheRightThing 7 ай бұрын
You’re trolling
@underpressure07140
@underpressure07140 7 ай бұрын
@@ThanosDidTheRightThing Lakers beat the fully healthy Celtics without Lebron and AD, so Lakers are a superteam?
@10649417
@10649417 7 ай бұрын
​@@TeeEnglish02 Rudy has been a rebound leader, a block leader with more defensive first teams and has more all NBA teams the DeMarcus cousins which gives Rudy a better chance to be in the hall of Fame. Rudy also has more postseason success & is about to have a longer NBA career than Cousins.
@Earl_E_Burd
@Earl_E_Burd 7 ай бұрын
Boogie has a way with his timing where he calls things out before they happen instead of the normal talking heads the day after.
@rjjaxx9135
@rjjaxx9135 7 ай бұрын
Wat are you talking about gobert already won the award.
@oyyajojoj
@oyyajojoj 7 ай бұрын
perhaps boogie and rondo genuinely believe gobert is overrated... but you can just tell by how intensely they discredit his defensive ability without acknowledging the impact he undeniably has on the defensive end that there is personal animosity towards him. their opinion seems to go way beyond objective argument at this point. hard to take their opinion too seriously here
@UnderGroundSkoopTV
@UnderGroundSkoopTV 7 ай бұрын
Bro do you have a set of eyes ? Anyone who UNDERSTANDS the game can see it clearly.
@mr.alexander1506
@mr.alexander1506 7 ай бұрын
You’re tripping
@oyyajojoj
@oyyajojoj 7 ай бұрын
@@UnderGroundSkoopTV you're wrong. Watch what JJ Redick and Joel Ingles has to say about Gobert's defense.
@jzajzz
@jzajzz 7 ай бұрын
Why would they have animosity toward him .they have no history
@michaelo1878
@michaelo1878 7 ай бұрын
@@jzajzzyou don’t know that
@youngcity4241
@youngcity4241 7 ай бұрын
Boogie is right I never seen Gobert defense change a series
@dominictrento8770
@dominictrento8770 7 ай бұрын
Oh I’ve seen it change a series, just not for his team.
@brianbadonde9251
@brianbadonde9251 7 ай бұрын
He changed the Clippers series by not being able to defend the 3
@Kai-lp5ej
@Kai-lp5ej 7 ай бұрын
Set the tempo for the suns series
@alk7478
@alk7478 7 ай бұрын
​@@dominictrento8770 🤣🤣🤣
@wengz717
@wengz717 7 ай бұрын
@@dominictrento8770😂😂
@jmcgee39
@jmcgee39 7 ай бұрын
When Gobert won the award, I said that they gave it to him and people came at me like I didn't know what I was talking about. Thanks Jokic for making my point for me.
@malnorfleet4925
@malnorfleet4925 7 ай бұрын
? 😂
@jmcgee39
@jmcgee39 7 ай бұрын
@@malnorfleet4925 What's not to understand? unless reading comprehension isn't your strong suit 😂
@innerpeace1155
@innerpeace1155 7 ай бұрын
Smart and don't let anyone to say different
@bohobbs3959
@bohobbs3959 7 ай бұрын
@@malnorfleet4925bro just yapped 😂
@OnlyHTMRK
@OnlyHTMRK 7 ай бұрын
bro who the fuck even are you 😂😂
@SwaggyG_aka_SplashDoe
@SwaggyG_aka_SplashDoe 7 ай бұрын
Anthony Davis and Wemby were easily better candidates
@king23166
@king23166 7 ай бұрын
Naw he destroyed davis 😂stop ig right now.. ad is better as help defender against joker
@danielday3374
@danielday3374 7 ай бұрын
@@king23166 Wemby and AD were the best defenders against Jokic this season statistically. Wemby #1, AD #2.
@ROSH1503
@ROSH1503 7 ай бұрын
But they ain’t got the team record 😢
@diegobromfield
@diegobromfield 7 ай бұрын
​@@king23166 don't drink or smoke before you comment. You sound silly. AD and Wemby were the best defenders I saw whole season.
@bookieallen7448
@bookieallen7448 7 ай бұрын
Jokic torched AD & Wenby all year
@anthonycelestin3559
@anthonycelestin3559 7 ай бұрын
People use the TWolves vs Nuggets series as an indictment against Gobert to say Wemby should’ve won DPOY over Gobert but people don’t give that same energy to Wemby cause Wemby gets cooked by these same centers too. Embiid scored 70 on Wemby, Jokic had a season high 42 on Wemby and Sengun had a career high 45 on Wemby this year
@donovanjohnson4279
@donovanjohnson4279 7 ай бұрын
Good point. Have you ever seen Mcdaniels get cooked?
@Realest1ne
@Realest1ne 7 ай бұрын
Because there’s a narrative against Gobert and ppl just don’t like him. They acting like Jokic doesn’t do this to everybody.
@elijahhutchings7947
@elijahhutchings7947 7 ай бұрын
EXACTLY
@trellwhitehurst6670
@trellwhitehurst6670 7 ай бұрын
Sengun tore Victor's ass up. I say that as a Spurs fan
@anthonycelestin3559
@anthonycelestin3559 7 ай бұрын
@@trellwhitehurst6670 At least someone’s honest
@kevingteresi
@kevingteresi 7 ай бұрын
This aged well
@todoroki4418
@todoroki4418 7 ай бұрын
Aged like wine now about to be swept
@lorddj9910
@lorddj9910 7 ай бұрын
It did 😂😂
@maartenvz
@maartenvz 7 ай бұрын
Rudy Gobert had a +25 net rating on/off in the conference finals, easily leading his team. The Timberwolves got destroyed on the minutes Gobert was on the bench. It's sad to me how few people look at these numbers.
@lorddj9910
@lorddj9910 7 ай бұрын
@@maartenvz that’s all you guys have is numbers…where are the plays and the impact when it matters? Dallas had a field day in the paint in this series 60+ in the first two games as well.
@TheMetal213
@TheMetal213 7 ай бұрын
@@lorddj9910facts. That’s all this data driven biased new generation has to bring to the debate. Real fans that know ball go by the eye test and can see Rudy isn’t a true difference maker like how Ben Wallace, Rodman or Hakeem were.
@ndjotamounguenguendjota2488
@ndjotamounguenguendjota2488 7 ай бұрын
Sooo biaised! Crazy to say Gobert has no defensive presence!
@AHistory99
@AHistory99 7 ай бұрын
Right because it's easier to claim he did than to show us where he did lol
@DontressSmith
@DontressSmith 7 ай бұрын
He doesn't rondo is absolutely right 👍🏽🤨
@ndjotamounguenguendjota2488
@ndjotamounguenguendjota2488 7 ай бұрын
@@AHistory99 look at defensive stats with and without him on the floor. A single action is not reprensentative of a defensive presence.
@ndjotamounguenguendjota2488
@ndjotamounguenguendjota2488 7 ай бұрын
@@DontressSmith based on what you've heard people said I guess.
@AHistory99
@AHistory99 7 ай бұрын
@@ndjotamounguenguendjota2488 Tell me who was Gobert affecting on the court the last series against Denver.
@Davivd2
@Davivd2 7 ай бұрын
Rondo needs to be a coach. THIS is the guy the Lakers should be trying to hire. Not JJ hot take.
@TheRecapRoom365
@TheRecapRoom365 7 ай бұрын
Facts. JJ part of that good-boy club. He makes one good talking point on first take and he’s automatically a candidate smh.
@kalifharden377
@kalifharden377 7 ай бұрын
So yall don’t think jj has a high basketball iq??
@Cee428NJ
@Cee428NJ 7 ай бұрын
JJ is going to be fine your underestimating him because of first take
@artetaDagoat
@artetaDagoat 7 ай бұрын
​@@kalifharden377 He doesn't rate MJ and thinks Basketball was easier in the 80s and 90s...so no
@DNipp
@DNipp 7 ай бұрын
@@TheRecapRoom365lmao right and he threw doc under the bus. The mf who saved his career and got him paid and in the position he’s in now. But we can’t forget who JJ Reddik is. He’s still the same dickhead from Duke lmao
@incognitomosquito3120
@incognitomosquito3120 7 ай бұрын
Boogie talks a lot for a player who led a bunch of 25 win teams
@X02Overdose
@X02Overdose 2 ай бұрын
Hey chill he had some 30 win seasons in there 😂
@KMM5821
@KMM5821 7 ай бұрын
Shout out to ticket tv on KZbin for talking about this
@TJWest-if3ny
@TJWest-if3ny 7 ай бұрын
@KMM5821 stop it. Ticket a cornball.
@TicketTVmedia
@TicketTVmedia 7 ай бұрын
FACTS BOOGIE AND RONDO
@UnderGroundSkoopTV
@UnderGroundSkoopTV 7 ай бұрын
💯💯💯
@krashg992
@krashg992 7 ай бұрын
Aged like fine wine
@strikingsavage4418
@strikingsavage4418 7 ай бұрын
They need to stop letting the media vote. Most know the game as a fan. Let the former players vote.
@moneyball647
@moneyball647 7 ай бұрын
Nah. If they let players vote Jokic won't have any MVP. lol. The media gets it right most of the time. Wemby should have won it. But Rudy has a strong case. Who doesn't Jokic cook?
@Flower-o7
@Flower-o7 7 ай бұрын
​@@moneyball647 Wemby lol
@Sparkyxicy
@Sparkyxicy 7 ай бұрын
@@Flower-o7 he gave Wemby 47
@Flower-o7
@Flower-o7 7 ай бұрын
@@Sparkyxicy wemby gave him 7 blocks
@Realest1ne
@Realest1ne 7 ай бұрын
@@Flower-o7 How many of them were on Wemby?
@lambdamax
@lambdamax 7 ай бұрын
Rudy is in the 2024 WCF.... So.....
@timbrown9796
@timbrown9796 7 ай бұрын
Team
@lambdamax
@lambdamax 7 ай бұрын
@@timbrown9796 Draymond Green is NOT in the 2024 WCF
@opfreak
@opfreak 7 ай бұрын
@@lambdamaxteam
@jakimmixon1461
@jakimmixon1461 7 ай бұрын
@@lambdamaxstill takes a damn good team bro
@lambdamax
@lambdamax 7 ай бұрын
@@jakimmixon1461 and the team that Draymond is in did not make it
@cl8355
@cl8355 7 ай бұрын
Rachel trying to defend her vote😂😂😂
@JG-mg3if
@JG-mg3if 7 ай бұрын
That sht was laughable.. And she was throwing stats like how the Wolves were #1 team defense but is not a team award. Is the best defense player, not the best team defense. And this is exactly what happens when you pick team defense over player when the award is “ Defense Player of the Year”
@aname5669
@aname5669 7 ай бұрын
Just shows you how these awards truly mean Jack shit. Once you see who the voters are then everything just makes sense
@delldorado9892
@delldorado9892 7 ай бұрын
She was lame for that vote indeed
@getsomemoney2433
@getsomemoney2433 7 ай бұрын
& they keep telling her she wrong 😂
@maartenvz
@maartenvz 7 ай бұрын
@@aname5669 No it doesn't, the only thing this video proves is that Rachel is clearly embarassed by the hate of Boogie and Rondo and is trying to please them. It was clear this season Minnesota had the best defence and Gobert had the biggest impact on that. We see biased jealousy by 2 players who don't bring any stats to defend their ridiculous claims.
@dearshomy
@dearshomy 7 ай бұрын
I believe there should be more team awards seeing as its a team sport.
@danielmarbella1197
@danielmarbella1197 7 ай бұрын
Bro, give him some credit for his team to be the best defensive team.
@DM-3000
@DM-3000 7 ай бұрын
Lowkey Gobert became a real two way late in game 7 against the nuggets🤣🤣🤣 he turned up on both ends right before he fouled out. Easy to say Rudy went out with a BANG ‼️ in that game 7
@rajmathew6220
@rajmathew6220 7 ай бұрын
She made a mistake not voting for Wemby. And she keeps saying Hakeem when she should be saying Mutombo who also won 4 DPOY, along with Ben Wallace.
@fullmetal1766
@fullmetal1766 7 ай бұрын
because she doesn't know anything but yet has a vote
@dougiet.2112
@dougiet.2112 7 ай бұрын
How about Bam?
@Killsquad2
@Killsquad2 7 ай бұрын
She robbed Wemby from history. He should've been the 1st rookie to win DPOY.
@JG-mg3if
@JG-mg3if 7 ай бұрын
@@Killsquad2not just her, a lot of writers. Is DPOY not DTOY.
@chrismoney5873
@chrismoney5873 7 ай бұрын
Idk why she keeps saying that hakeem shit. She said it again on undisputed
@raymondbourcicault7737
@raymondbourcicault7737 7 ай бұрын
RUDY GOBERT : FINAL CONFERENCE.
@birdo1180
@birdo1180 7 ай бұрын
RUDY GOBERT : DEFENSIVE LIABILITY
@maartenvz
@maartenvz 7 ай бұрын
Gobert led his team in on/off net rating during the conference finals and it wasnt even close. The TImberwolves got destroyed in the minutes Gobert was on the bench. Please stop all this jealous hating and bring some numbers.
@ivotenotocensorship5247
@ivotenotocensorship5247 7 ай бұрын
Youre brain dead ​@@maartenvz
@IK.ACTIV3
@IK.ACTIV3 7 ай бұрын
3:45 TALK YO SHIT DBOUG 😂
@SSJRome
@SSJRome 7 ай бұрын
FACTSSS man Jokic is taking practice shots vs Gobert getting to whatever spot he wants to with no resistance what so ever from a 7 footer at that .
@Eazybaby-fu7sy
@Eazybaby-fu7sy 7 ай бұрын
7 foot 2 tbe
@ionel630
@ionel630 7 ай бұрын
Denver scored 70 Points in Game 6 but i bet WE dont hear praise for Gobert, wake up
@SSJRome
@SSJRome 7 ай бұрын
@@ionel630 the team defense was the deciding factor
@ionel630
@ionel630 7 ай бұрын
@@SSJRome yeah of course 😂 and in Game 5 gobert get the blame, and the Team defens was great 😂😂😂😂
@SSJRome
@SSJRome 7 ай бұрын
@@ionel630 just stop it bruh if you can win 4 DPOY awards then you can most certainly take on some of the criticism if your matchup lights you up for 40
@mihailodomanovic1192
@mihailodomanovic1192 7 ай бұрын
Why do we keep awarding a regular season performance with a regular season award? Yeah, that's a real headscratcher Damarcus.
@ROSH1503
@ROSH1503 7 ай бұрын
AD and Wemby were by far the best defensive players this regular season.
@bumblebee1930
@bumblebee1930 7 ай бұрын
Gobum ain't even the best defender in his team
@cedrickwilson
@cedrickwilson 7 ай бұрын
Bam Adebayo
@ionel630
@ionel630 7 ай бұрын
No IT was my mom
@Dipset415
@Dipset415 7 ай бұрын
Definitely especially AD cause nobody else on his team plays D
@anthonymalcolmcalan
@anthonymalcolmcalan 7 ай бұрын
I understand rondo has a great basketball mind but he’s still thinking as if it’s the 2000’s. The game has evolved. There aren’t many post scorers in today’s NBA. In todays NBA the job of a center is not to be a post defender 1 on 1. It’s to be a rim protector playing 5 on 5. Even if Rudy is the worst post defender in the league the value he brings as a rim protector has completely changed the Timberwolves. I refuse to join in on the delusion that he isn’t good on defense.
@nbalakersvideos
@nbalakersvideos 7 ай бұрын
I love Rondo but this did NOT aged well lol Gobert clamped Jokic in the second half of Game 7.
@kemlloyd5192
@kemlloyd5192 7 ай бұрын
@nbalakersvideos - how you feel now after the mavs series ?
@2H2521
@2H2521 7 ай бұрын
Fucking love my boy Rondo, most unselfish player & intelligent dude I’ve ever seen. Gobert is so overrated.
@danielmarbella1197
@danielmarbella1197 7 ай бұрын
Defense is not just about blocks and steals, for the sake of god. Is about a guy providing rim protection, helping P&Rs, defending cuts and so on. Rudy is one of the reasons Wolves is one of the best defense system is rhe league.
@Longlivesicko
@Longlivesicko 7 ай бұрын
Shitt McDaniels a better damn defender than him and he gets less blocks, it's about the presence and he does not have that in full effect he doesn't change the opposing team offense that's who should get it,
@maartenvz
@maartenvz 7 ай бұрын
@@Longlivesicko Gobert led the Timberwolves in net rating on/off, even in the conference finals (+25!!). The TImberwolves got destroyed in the minutes Gobert was on the bench.
@maartenvz
@maartenvz 7 ай бұрын
THank you good sir! So few people seem to understand this and the Boogie remark that there are no facts are hilarious, Gobert leads the Timberwolves in net rating. What fact did Boogie bring?
@armchairgenerals4395
@armchairgenerals4395 7 ай бұрын
AD should've been a finalist for sure. He stepped up big time this season for us. These awards are trash and need to be re-evaluated by the league.
@mondobermudez6569
@mondobermudez6569 7 ай бұрын
Gobert is currently the best defensive center, but not the best we've ever seen in the league. He probably would crack top 20 defensive centers all time though. Wemby is definitely coming for that thrown next year!!!
@Longlivesicko
@Longlivesicko 7 ай бұрын
No he already got it
@matthiasameer
@matthiasameer 7 ай бұрын
Man I thought this came out after the Luka game winner
@TakedaMauro
@TakedaMauro 7 ай бұрын
Keep talking bozos. Rudy DPOY. Rudy conference finals. Boogie playing in Taiwan. LOL.
@danielrasmussen2167
@danielrasmussen2167 7 ай бұрын
Almost all of you guys are talking shit based on bullshit. Look at the numbers. The best player in the world makes a bunch of ridiculous shots in 1 game and everyone pretends like Rudy is a scrub. He's not the best 1-on1 defender necessarily, but he's great in so many other ways that help a team win. He had trash teammates on the Jazz who couldn't help out. Now you see what he can achieve in concert with good teammates. 70 pts and 80 pts in a series against one of the best modern offenses of the past several years. It IS a team award, but they make it individual because we're obsessed with the myth of individuality in US cuture and hemce US team sports. So if they're gonna have an individual award, he's as deserving as anyone. I digress. Rudy has exceptional numbers in terms of opponent FG% in the paint and great numbers guarding isos on the perimeter. The bullshit old narratives and knee-jerk trashing of the man based on 1 game here and there need to stop. Tell me who is stopping Jokic when he's on 1 like in game 5? Jackals.
@TheRulersBack18
@TheRulersBack18 7 ай бұрын
hard to ask fans to understand team defense when so many players act like they don't understand team defense. y'all are around my age, you literally watched dikembe mutombo get annihilated by shaq, but ppl weren't saying he wasn't a good defender, they just acknowledged that shaq was great. now, ppl acting like if you aren't a 1v1 lockdown guy, you can't be a great defender lmao. we watched jordan get cooked by magic (so they put scottie on him), but none of us would say mj wasn't a great defender. the best offensive players can cook any defender if they get to face them 1v1. jokic done tortured anthony davis too, but i know y'all wouldn't say he's not a great defender. cooked edrice adebayo too. jokic is just a great player
@aaronb5173
@aaronb5173 7 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t it just be because in today’s era we have great rim protectors who also can play great defense from outside the paint? i.e. AD & Wemby offer the same rim protection but can guard perimeter, P&R, switches, etc etc. Gobert is just elite at defensive around the rim, and even then even some Wolves fans question his effort when sometimes he just chooses not to jump or contest some layups from time to time.
@johnshottie4415
@johnshottie4415 7 ай бұрын
Watch how many guards and forwards dribble through under the hoop or shoot dumb floaters and pull ups to avoid Rudy. I’m not a huge Rudy guy but to say he doesn’t change the approach is just saying you’re not watching the games.
@joshuawoodard6998
@joshuawoodard6998 7 ай бұрын
The first 2 games they were giving Rudy his flowers and not wanting him to miss a game for his newborn, now they bashing him. At least he still in the NBA. These guys couldn't even retire on their own terms. They were effectively removed from the league. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@celticsalltheway
@celticsalltheway 7 ай бұрын
The topic of conversation is different and two things can be true at once. A 2 time champion and a star player don’t know what they’re talking about ? You must think highly of guys like Skip and Stephen A cause it seems real takes aren’t you cup of tea.
@joshuawoodard6998
@joshuawoodard6998 7 ай бұрын
@@celticsalltheway Rondo was brilliant at times, but also a liability at times. He had the benefit of playing with 6 HOF for his 2 Championships. It's not like he was the bus driver.
@Eazybaby-fu7sy
@Eazybaby-fu7sy 7 ай бұрын
​@@celticsallthewaykeep preaching
@JG-mg3if
@JG-mg3if 7 ай бұрын
First 2 games??? Rudy didn’t play in the 2nd game bro. Remember, the game the wolves shut down the nuggets! Minnesota is actually 1-3 with Rudy on the floor and his all time defense.
@PerceptionVsReality
@PerceptionVsReality 7 ай бұрын
Karl Anthony towns and Naz Reid actually played Joker better. These guys Kno more Nba bball then we all know combined. Rondo is one of the highest IQ guys basketball ball wise and Boogie is a former all star and has played with joker. I trust in them more than anyone if these other jokers.
@fiestastboost5788
@fiestastboost5788 7 ай бұрын
So with KG winning DPOTY and MVP he should get more props, guy had game and was a dog 100% he doesnt get enough respect and mention from everybody its a shame.
@Vxt667
@Vxt667 7 ай бұрын
Talk about it 👏🏼
@yahcrack
@yahcrack 7 ай бұрын
1:38 this is like the 5th time I’ve heard players mention that the wing defenders make Gobert look better
@MG-yj6lo
@MG-yj6lo 7 ай бұрын
The wing defenders look good because they know they can take a chance and Rudy is in there. It goes both ways
@harlan5339
@harlan5339 7 ай бұрын
@@MG-yj6loi dont think goebert is a good defensive player in the playoffs cuz everybody has a big. Regular season not every team does. So he can win dpoy cuz the playoffs don’t really count
@youngjojo8778
@youngjojo8778 7 ай бұрын
Jokic is doing this to ANYONE, It isn’t his series sure but this is just hating lmfao like did we not just see the suns series? Rudy was huge there. NBA pundits all just prisoners of the moment
@shyxlo4727
@shyxlo4727 7 ай бұрын
i get what they're saying, but they're comparing his regular season/playoff performance for an award that is based off the regular season. what you do in the playoffs has no bearing on a regular season award, they're two entirely different seasons for a reason. embiid won mvp last year based off his body of work in the regular season, even though he averaged 10 less ppg in the post season and disappeared. with that thinking, do we now have to discredit other award winners? just doesn't make sense to conflate the two seasons.
@yahcrack
@yahcrack 7 ай бұрын
2:00 this is why these bias ass reporters shouldn’t have votes
@RuntheCompound
@RuntheCompound 7 ай бұрын
* We award Rudy because DPOY IS A REGULAR SEASON AWARD. * Every center had a career high on Wemby and we want to reward him we the greatest defense award?? * Rudy was a defensive presence on a poor defensive team called UTAH JAZZ. No one on that team was good defensively yet they were the best defensive team in the league. * McDaniels and Reid don't get cooked because their help defender is the DPOY. That's literally the best help defense in the league. Even when their defenders get by them they still have to go through the DPOY to score. Rudy basically covers their lapses. GREAT OFFENSIVE PLAYERS FOCUS MORE ON HELP DEFENSE BECAUSE THEY CAN BEAT THEIR DEFENDERS ON ONE-ON-ONE MATCH UPS. * AD plays like 5 games a season and we want to give him awards. Let him play enough games before we can have that discussion. * Anyone can get cooked on a good night. Even Jordan got torched on some nights. Getting torched in 1 game out of 82 doesn't make you a bad defender. FINALLY, NBA VETS AND PLAYERS CAN'T BELIEVE THAT A SOMEONE CAN WIN THE DPOY AWARD WITHOUT KNOCKING PEOPLE DOWN AND THROWING ELBOWS. THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY THEY ALSO SAY DWIGHT IS SOFT. JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE DOESN'T THROW HANDS DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE SOFT.
@117Awesome
@117Awesome 7 ай бұрын
No former players have ever disrespected Dwight or his DPOY’s. Rudy gets cooked every year in the playoffs to the point he loons unplayable. He’s got the best wing defenders in the league on his team and they have looked better without him than they have with him.
@DontressSmith
@DontressSmith 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree with Rondo he doesn't have a defensive presence Dpoy yeahhhh okkkk 🤦🏽
@elpichichiii
@elpichichiii 7 ай бұрын
aged like MILK
@donaldedwards3997
@donaldedwards3997 7 ай бұрын
How is that aged like milk. Them winning doesn't take the point. They were destroyed in the paint last night. No defense presence. His own team team has to take him off joke. He is overrated
@shaq132
@shaq132 7 ай бұрын
@@donaldedwards3997lol aged like wine, 62 points in the paint for the mavs last night. 😂
@jakimmixon1461
@jakimmixon1461 7 ай бұрын
F in chat for Rudy gosh
@AHistory99
@AHistory99 7 ай бұрын
@@shaq132 it was like that for Denver too. Open season on this dude gobert lol but these dudes want us to believe he's such a rim protector. Never seen teams feel so comfortable to attack the rim against a guy people want us to believe is a great defender
@shaq132
@shaq132 7 ай бұрын
@@AHistory99 man kyrie and luka were killing that damn drop Rudy was in 😂
@DefiantMercenary
@DefiantMercenary 7 ай бұрын
Where’s the footage of boogie saying he was wrong about jokic greatness?
@dearshomy
@dearshomy 7 ай бұрын
Let DPOY remain a regular season award. The problem is not when the award is given, it's who is doing the voting.
@trellwhitehurst6670
@trellwhitehurst6670 7 ай бұрын
The players voting on it would be far worse. They're most bias than anyone in the media.
@saintxeno777
@saintxeno777 7 ай бұрын
Lol no defensive presence but. Guards pull the ball out when they see him .and hes first in defensive win shares lol
@SSSMOR.
@SSSMOR. 7 ай бұрын
DPOY is a regular season award and rudy does help you win regular season games verse mediocre teams and bad teams which will make your over all defensive rating look better and you will have a better over all record that's why I dont pay attention to stats I watch how teams and players play against other great teams and players to rate how good they are
@bullenburger4302
@bullenburger4302 7 ай бұрын
I didn’t know DPOY was awarded to the best help defender of the year!!
@yahiaali4059
@yahiaali4059 7 ай бұрын
When I say it’s wemby ppl only bring up team defence. Ant,McDaniels,naz reid and even sometimes kat can lock up.
@abdullahiali2446
@abdullahiali2446 7 ай бұрын
@@yahiaali4059acting like wemby would do anything against jokic 😂
@yahiaali4059
@yahiaali4059 7 ай бұрын
@@abdullahiali2446 never said he would but even nba players know gobert liability in the playoffs go ask dudes who played against him
@kennyboifoods2171
@kennyboifoods2171 7 ай бұрын
​@@abdullahiali2446 bruh when Spurs vs nuggets during the regular season, wemby is long enough to alter jokic hook, and he even got a block on that right hook. Plus wemby can guard better outside of the paint.
@trav8787
@trav8787 7 ай бұрын
Boogie would get cooked too. Gobert slander is stupid. Jokic is the mvp. Any other team would be double teaming him, least rudy is trying to play straight up. If rudy was a Black american, no way he would get the same hate. Wtf rudy supposed to do when Jokic is hitting step back 3s
@Los334_
@Los334_ 7 ай бұрын
No he want because he gone meet him head up and jokic gotta worry about the same shit on defense 😂
@Tuneoclock
@Tuneoclock 7 ай бұрын
We literally just watched it last series .
@MISTERBLVNCO
@MISTERBLVNCO 7 ай бұрын
It’s easy when you have McDaniels and Naz Reid and Anthony Edwards playing all the defense and you get to sit back and block shots
@ionel630
@ionel630 7 ай бұрын
in Utah He Had the Same Players? And won three defens Player of the year Awards? Work on your problems😂
@practiceyourart
@practiceyourart 7 ай бұрын
​@@ionel630Rudy has become the easy scapegoat and a lot of people talking about the wrong aspects. Rudy's issues this series are moreso on the offensive side, where Ant's getting doubles rather than defense.
@MG-yj6lo
@MG-yj6lo 7 ай бұрын
Scapegoat. Rudy was the Jazz defense and they had 4 bad defenders with Rudy.
@Grind2Excellence
@Grind2Excellence 7 ай бұрын
Even then wemb double his blocks 😳😳
@zyinichitv1758
@zyinichitv1758 7 ай бұрын
i think rudy is a great great defender and deserved all dpoy awards, but he can also be countered easily. especially playoffs where all things is magnified. because he has strength and weakness defensively. and with how much offensive talent we have in NBA its easily countered if youre not a versatile defender like AD or Giannis that you can move your feet. but he has strenght for sure and deserve the awards
@SSSMOR.
@SSSMOR. 7 ай бұрын
Rachel has to defend Rudy because when she did that interview way back with jimmy butler when he was with Minnesota and they trashed karl anthony towns the media had to hype Rudy Gobert so he could replace karl Anthony towns as all nba third team that year to legitimize and support Rachel for giving jimmy that platform to trash his own team mate the media been over hyping rudy ever since so thank rachel and jimmy butler
@Minnesotamelarky
@Minnesotamelarky 7 ай бұрын
Where is this talk today
@Bornclutch62
@Bornclutch62 7 ай бұрын
AD deserved that award,, playing with horrible defenders around him all year and carrying them
@DavidJackson-fq9fn
@DavidJackson-fq9fn 7 ай бұрын
Stop..Wemby deserved it
@rickyricardo2006
@rickyricardo2006 7 ай бұрын
And then losing at 5 against denver 👍
@wirelessbrain12
@wirelessbrain12 7 ай бұрын
@@DavidJackson-fq9fn By letting Embiid score 70? lmfao
@DavidJackson-fq9fn
@DavidJackson-fq9fn 7 ай бұрын
@wirelessbrain12 .... yea cause one game defines someone. Jordan shot 0-14 one game.. guess he was terrible according to you 🙄
@elijahhutchings7947
@elijahhutchings7947 7 ай бұрын
@@DavidJackson-fq9fnsengun had a career night against Wemby. Along with other guys. It’s not a one time occasion and doesn’t mean he is bad but he has a target on his back. People has him a players make a point when they play him cause of it
@TheOuttaPocketVarietyShow
@TheOuttaPocketVarietyShow 7 ай бұрын
I lost out on what would've been $10,000 because they screwed Wemby out of DPOY. I needed that BAD. All for Rudy to be useless in this series and for the Wolves to play this great tonight while putting someone else on Joker. The league crooked.
@gregoirelaisne7058
@gregoirelaisne7058 7 ай бұрын
If Rudy Gobert was a U.S player there were so much respect on him. Dikembe Mutombo 4 time DPOY ? yes and he played Shaq in his prime in 2001 final : Shaq's stats ? ... 33pts 16reb 5ast 3.5blocks !!! When you play one of the best player all time in his prime you can't do anything individualy ? Can you understand that. Rondo was one of the most intelligent player in the court but his hate against rudy blind him its just so sad.
@ericktrejo2
@ericktrejo2 7 ай бұрын
Funny how most former players say wemby should’ve won it lol
@ionel630
@ionel630 7 ай бұрын
Thats says nothing, shaq thinks jokic doesnt deserve the MVP award, Former Player ist meaningless lol
@majinbeezy
@majinbeezy 7 ай бұрын
@@ionel630former player input isn’t infallible but it damn sure isn’t meaningless. They usually have better takes than the media
@mrking1785
@mrking1785 7 ай бұрын
@@ionel630he just said SGA deserves it more for this year. Ya acting like he called Jokic a bum.
@slamdunk2270
@slamdunk2270 7 ай бұрын
Cousins his last 6 games against Rudy Gobert was shooting below 50% FG
@HomerunsamSOSA
@HomerunsamSOSA 7 ай бұрын
Cousins is three times the player Rudy is
@mrking1785
@mrking1785 7 ай бұрын
Bruh which Cousins are you talking about.
@HomerunsamSOSA
@HomerunsamSOSA 7 ай бұрын
@@mrking1785 his own cousins
@jafc1456
@jafc1456 7 ай бұрын
Still these guys hating on the Foreign players. Just accept its a regular season award. Thats it. They are not giving him the DPOY for the playoffs
@mrking1785
@mrking1785 7 ай бұрын
Hating on Foreign players but saying Wemby should’ve won it man STFU.
@p0pov13
@p0pov13 7 ай бұрын
God forbid you praise the best player on earth lol
@Alvaro.240
@Alvaro.240 7 ай бұрын
The problem is that he is soft as charming not only physically but mentally man he couldn't back down in the post freaking guards on offense and was moved away like a toy for the rebounds by guards! In a lot of Playoffs series with Utah and his body is slow remember of Shawn Bradley in this aspect. Every good Big man cooked him. He doesn't like contact he is banged easly and in offense is a hole. I watched Gasol and Scola cooked him in Fiba basketball being 40 years old both and him in his prime.
@TaeDoloSolo
@TaeDoloSolo 7 ай бұрын
Bam and AD are the only bigs who can guard all 5 positions and get shorted every year 🤦🏿‍♂️
@KyuanteTalksHere
@KyuanteTalksHere 7 ай бұрын
If wemby was in the French garbage man’s shoes this series he would be 10x better defensively this series. Not saying Joker wouldn’t get his but we would not be talking about wemby this bad compared to gobert
@thomasmeadows7959
@thomasmeadows7959 7 ай бұрын
Wemby deserved DPOY over Rudy easily
@ionel630
@ionel630 7 ай бұрын
Denver scored 70 Points in Game 6 but i bet WE dont hear praise for Gobert, you know how much embid scored against wemby?😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Vastatio
@Vastatio 7 ай бұрын
@@ionel630 he scored 16 pts on Wemby that game, your point??? The panelists are still correct, individually Gobert is not a threat.
@jimmybootz1277
@jimmybootz1277 7 ай бұрын
Y'all think these players are haters but they know the politics of the NBA that the average fan has no idea about but they're still at least gonna give you what the players are really thinking and that's what's so dope about these new players run podcasts ✊🏾
@cordariusjohnson2601
@cordariusjohnson2601 7 ай бұрын
Players just don’t respect gobert as a great defender. You can’t make them do that, only he could do that.
@draxlerkwame492
@draxlerkwame492 7 ай бұрын
That Boogie + AD + Rondo New Orleans 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
@walterreed5849
@walterreed5849 7 ай бұрын
jokic is one player. over the course of 82 games rudy was keeping his teams defense at #1.
@ninerempire3398
@ninerempire3398 7 ай бұрын
Draymond has been saying this about rudy for awhile now but they called him a hater and bitter towards gobert
@SmallWorld-ur7tl
@SmallWorld-ur7tl 7 ай бұрын
No one in The nba plays defense. These dudes haters
@serge6885
@serge6885 7 ай бұрын
Game 6: Wolves 115 x 70 Nuggets. You are just a clone, Boogie Cousin.
@Different_out_look
@Different_out_look 7 ай бұрын
Gobert is a help side defender he no guarding nobody straght up..i never seen a helpside defender get that amount of love.
@jayoz3993
@jayoz3993 7 ай бұрын
These people who voted Rudy as 4 times DPOY and AD zero need to show their damn face That’s embarrassing at best
@anthonyhale3634
@anthonyhale3634 7 ай бұрын
What is she talking about¿
@Ahi_tuna_
@Ahi_tuna_ 7 ай бұрын
T wolves gotta start naz that’s their only hope rn
@rockjm9876543210
@rockjm9876543210 7 ай бұрын
Yup because Gobert is useless rn.
@macieksz2829
@macieksz2829 7 ай бұрын
​@@rockjm9876543210 that's bs, he had a good game, it's just jokic being jokic and wolves not playing as good as they were before
@ibrahimahmedbulale9836
@ibrahimahmedbulale9836 7 ай бұрын
Even though I don’t like Goberts defensive stance. He still has a chance to prove himself.
@juliomartis2906
@juliomartis2906 7 ай бұрын
I don't like Dramon, but when it comes to defence, passing, rebounding, give and go, even shooting(from 3). Dramon has 4 rings and without him, no rings. Be more respectful.
@MrHolliday4434
@MrHolliday4434 7 ай бұрын
Be honest yall don’t like Rudy. Big reason why the wolves won the series is because of his rim protection.
@astronewton1995
@astronewton1995 7 ай бұрын
I feel like Rudy needs a more mean nastier edge to his defense. He has been getting DPOY solely on athleticism and timing but if he can put that fear factor with it, his defense would leap into a different level.
@kristianpomida8259
@kristianpomida8259 7 ай бұрын
aged like shit.
@jacoby1303
@jacoby1303 7 ай бұрын
No it didn’t. It was spot on. They didn’t make a run until Gobert went to the bench. Towns and Reid took care of Jokic.
@TakedaMauro
@TakedaMauro 7 ай бұрын
@@jacoby1303 Where did you hear that lie? Draymond said it? The comeback started with Rudy's dunk with 9:51 left in the 3rd. (40-58 Denver up) Rudy was subbed at the 5 minute mark with the score 53-59 Denver. That's a 15-1 run with Rudy on the court (+14). He then came back at the start of the 4th. with the score 66-67 Denver and left at the 2:05 minute mark with his 6th foul and the score was 92-82 Minnesota. 26-15 run with Rudy on the court (+11). Stop listening to bozos and watch the games, it's not that hard.
@ThanosDidTheRightThing
@ThanosDidTheRightThing 7 ай бұрын
@@TakedaMauro Wolves are a top 3 defense without Gobert lol
@underpressure07140
@underpressure07140 7 ай бұрын
@@ThanosDidTheRightThing and they are number 1 with Gobert on the floor
@royaltydeal1441
@royaltydeal1441 7 ай бұрын
Rudy gobert is overrated. He was pissing me off in the entire series. If this aged like shit, then gobert would’ve been the one guarding jokic in big moments rather than having KAT and NAZ doing his job
@travisnelson5094
@travisnelson5094 7 ай бұрын
It's raining and I'm bored... The Timberwolves were the 13th ranked defense in 2022. That defensive style was built around gambling for steals and blocks and got exposed for not being able to rebound in the playoffs against the Grizzlies. 2023, the Wolves trade for Rudy Gobert, but kept a majority of the core defensive players, with the exception of Vando :(. Rudy came into the season pretty banged up from FIBA plus the rest of his teammates needed time to acclimate and understand how to play a completely new defensive style with him as the anchor... Also, had to get rid of D Lo's defense. They still ended up with the 10th rated defense. This season, Rudy and the wolves came into training camp with the mentality that they needed a defensive identity to win, and that's what they did. They had the #1 defense in the league through the whole season and it wasn't even close. It's hard to parachute in and only watch Rudy during national TV games and the playoffs to understand how much positive impact he has... but he has the best plus/minus in THIS years playoffs. Also, he doesn't guard Jokic 1-on-1 because that's not the Wolves defensive strategy, and it shouldn't be. He "guards" Aaron Gordon and lurks just outside the paint so Gordon can't cut in and catch lobs while Jokic get's double teamed. The Wolves have used this strategy for 2 seasons now, and it's by far the most effective strategy that any team in the league has for Jokic. Gordon had 4 points and 4 rebounds in Game 7, and the Wolves beat the defending champions on their home court. Rudy is the defensive player of the year.
@gioms4020
@gioms4020 7 ай бұрын
Y’all say this aged bad, but I think it still holds true. Rudy stepped up in the 3rs and 4th of g7 by making big energy plays, mostly on the offensive end. Sure he got a couple of blocks that game, but if we talk about the series overall, Rudy couldn’t gaurd jokic, plain and simple. Whenever the nuggets needed a bucket they swung it to jok in the post and he pieced Rudy up with great effiency. Put wemby in Rudy’s position and the wolves would’ve won in 5. Not to mention that Rudy’s soft as hell
@Maalthe1
@Maalthe1 7 ай бұрын
What’s the difference between Boogie and Jokic??
@pg13pacernation30
@pg13pacernation30 7 ай бұрын
Joker figured Gobert out. It took 2 games for him to adjust, Ant was right when he said Joker sees everything. To be fair the way Joker was playing in game 5 nobody in the league could guard him.
@jamaalgill2740
@jamaalgill2740 7 ай бұрын
Rudy’s defense completely changed that Utah/OKC series back in 2018. He didnt allow Russ nor PG to get anything at the rim and he cancelled out OKC’s best strength. Other than that, I get everything they’re saying here. Its a regular season award though and he’s been great defensively in the regular season prior to getting exposed in the Playoffs
@daveontaeg18
@daveontaeg18 7 ай бұрын
What position Rudy playing in football
@gyro4433
@gyro4433 7 ай бұрын
might be spitting now
@hkl4567
@hkl4567 7 ай бұрын
NBA is a Global Business, people and players seem to forget that all the time and let their emotions fuel whatever words that come out their mouths, pause. Maybe behind the scenes, Adam targeting some big ballerz from France to invest into the league one way or another, so they have to keep the spotlight on Wemby and Gobert tk make them feel apart of the entire operation too
@playmaker2121
@playmaker2121 7 ай бұрын
He keep winning it bc you have ppl like Rachel voting who never played the game and knows nothing about it, but yet she’s allowed to have a vote to decide who wins. I think the players should vote and take these media idiots out of it.
@QueenSha71
@QueenSha71 7 ай бұрын
Rondo should be on somebody’s bench assisting
@jus3278
@jus3278 7 ай бұрын
He should. Smart player.
@OG-Rarities.UnseenUnreleased
@OG-Rarities.UnseenUnreleased 7 ай бұрын
Damn Free rondo
@Grind2Excellence
@Grind2Excellence 7 ай бұрын
If jj gets a head coach then rondo should easily be getting lakers coach
@rcbarnson6488
@rcbarnson6488 7 ай бұрын
Rudy Goberts numbers for the better part of a decade are insane!? Statistically Gobert is goat on D. Take 5 min to look up stats before trashing on a guy. Turns out Wolves front office took 5 min. Now they expose these casuals that should value D and they get good shot at a ring. Haters suck but delusional or jealous haters are the worst.
@billjames1216
@billjames1216 7 ай бұрын
Anthony davis together with Lequeen were still swept gently by the Joker
@RealFootball45
@RealFootball45 7 ай бұрын
Why they keep cutting her off lmaoo
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