BorgWarner to Build BYD's Blade Battery; U.S. Impounds VW Luxury Cars - Autoline Daily 3748

[@eugeniustheodidactus8890]

I never listen to anything GM says. They are not even in the EV production industry... they are simply toying around and failing miserably.

[@Clark-Mills]

GM's spiel is mostly to satisfy the shareholders until they cash in / retire. GM knows that they are too big to fail and that the government (regardless of color) will bail them out... too much military dependence.

[@gregkramer5588]

This may sound weird but my dad loves his Blazer EV. Two months in for him.

[@taniabanes4707]

Personally I never trust a word Elon says, so…

[@stickynorth]

I would agree generally speaking with this sentiment however I do they are still doing better than most...

[@eugeniustheodidactus8890]

@@gregkramer5588 I find it weird that GM needs to bludgeon us to death with old vehicle names from which most boomers have PTSD! 🤣 That said, I wish the best for him !

[@owggarage723]

Autoline, what are you thinking? Run a story on Continental cutting workers then a Bridgestone commercial immediately afterwards!

[@JacobFramework]

Surprised to not see anything on Lucid this time round! They dropped the Lucid Air RWD to $69,900, the firdt time an Air model is available under $70k. Air Touring is dowm to $77,900, qnd Air Grand Touring is down to $109,900.

[@JohnJackson-e9z]

Lucid will not be in business for long.

[@JacobFramework]

@@JohnJackson-e9z they just quadrupled their factory and are entering production of their second vehicle... They have Arab oil money and qualify square in the crosshairs of every US subsidy bill. They will burn through a mountain of cash, and be fine. Tesla and Rivian did the same.

[@davewhite113]

BorgWarner is a top notch company! Just outstanding!

[@JustWasted3HoursHere]

That Borg-Warner story really hammers home the idea of an EV battery standard - size/voltage/shape/etc - that all EV manufacturers can support. This should massively help to bring costs down for all. Imagine if there were no standards for consumer batteries (such as AA, AAA and so on) and each device that needed a battery used its own shape, voltage etc. It would be an unwieldy mess to get and support so many batteries in the market.

[@JohnPMiller]

It would be as if DeWalt, Makita, Ryobi, Milwaukee, Bosch and Skil made rechargeable battery packs that weren't interchangeable. [WARNING: They are NOT interchangeable.]

[@davidmenasco5743]

I think you might have a point. But I also think it'll be at least 5 more years before the industry could settle on a viable set of standards.

[@dougabbott8261]

.... and bring safety and quality up to a standard.

[@JustWasted3HoursHere]

@@JohnPMillerHeh heh, yeah, there is that!

[@Cyrribrae]

​@@JohnPMillerhaha yep. Plus, even the example of AA, AAA is kinda what we have now - the same chemistry, just in different form factors. When you include coin batteries, 9v, lead acid, etc etc.. consumer batteries are no more standardized broadly than EV ones. I think there will be some value in standardized batteries, but battery technology is still rapidly evolving. I don't think we're there yet. Besides, the true "standardization" will be between multiple cars using the same EV architecture platforms. That is... UNLESS battery hot-swapping becomes a desired feature in the market and having universal batteries benefits everyone. I don't think we're going there, personally, though.

[@Jackolivierbo]

Wow. Terrible news for workers at Continental. It has been such a good company.

[@brunoheggli2888]

Wow look at this,Stellantis doing so well!

[@emypena]

Thats right they were even very accomodaing to UAW demands. Now Stellantis is cosing its plant they will be looking for new jobs.

[@henrymiecz8566]

Stellantis did really well??? Can't sell any trucks and jeeps but they sold more vehicles than last year??? More dealership inventory than ever but they did really well??? Interest rates went up to 8% but Stellantis did really well??? I call BS on these profit reports. Impossible!

[@taniabanes4707]

I don’t know which part of the world you’re from but let me tell you here today that where I live in Florida Stellantis got no issue selling. Jeeps? Everywhere, Ram? The same, Chargers? Literally at each street corner and Chrysler 300? Much cooler than any Beemer or Merc, not even mentioning the Pacifica doing well too. Maybe you should watch less clickbaiting channels with huge negative thumbnails and check facts for a change

[@rp9674]

No California rebate - Effective November 8, 2023, CVRP is closed to new applications.

[@j4k3br4k3]

Corvette EV 2028 LOL. Sounds like they had to go back to the drawing board after the Plaid hit the market.

[@kevtheobald]

GM has to many brands and mucking up Corvette branding with an SUV is just silly. Porsche did not make the 911 SUV, they created a solid product with a different model name and it did very well. GM has a long history of many brands started or aquired and then killing them off. Geo, Saturn, LeSalle, Oakland, Holden, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, and so on. It is like they never learn success is more about how goid your product is, not the trendy or flashy badge you out on products.

[@JohnPMiller]

Porsche owners weren't particularly happy that there would be a Porsche badge on an SUV built by VW in Slovakia. It sells well, so people accept it. I do think that Porsche, Mustang and soon Corvette weaken their brands/makes/models by slapping a name on a product that is in a different category.

[@kevtheobald]

@@JohnPMiller Porsche is brand, 911 is a model, so is Mustang, that is why I give Porsche a pass. They try to act like their own company so their company brand added other options without using the 911 name. It would have been easy to call the Taycan and Panamerica something like 911 Sports Sedans. GM has plenty of models with the Chevrolet company brand, including SUVs. I do think Ford would have better off with just Mach-E. Since the Mustang II did not kill the model line, it shows it is a durable name, but still seems foolish to have something like the Dark Horse and Mach-E with the same Mustang family model name. In the end too much weight is out behind names. The product is what counts first. Build garbage with a great name, it is still garbage. GM should take lessons have their Cadillac Cimarron.

[@JohnPMiller]

@@kevtheobald I was just thinking about the Cimarron. I agree.

[@rp9674]

It's risky business dealing woth Chinese companies, surprise.

[@stickynorth]

Just like the rest of the world feels about the USA, Canada included...

[@rp9674]

USA has far less slave labor & agressive expansionist policies, horrible comparison.

[@hwirtwirt4500]

@@stickynorth What Canadian founded automobile manufacturers are currently in business?

[@davidmenasco5743]

I wonder , is there a single large business in the US that has any physical products for sale, that doesn't do business with Chinese companies?

[@rp9674]

Self appointed spokesperson for the rest of the world. Business is not 1 of USA problems.

[@anthonyxuereb792]

What is it with the US government and VW?

[@DBGE001]

VW uses forced labor in China to build parts that are in numerous vehicles of the VW group.

[@StormyDog]

@@DBGE001 Not to mention Dieselgate and Dieselgate 2.

[@anthonyxuereb792]

That's not proven, probably as real as the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, besides until the US totally abolishes executions who are they to say. VW aren't the only manufacturers in China either.@@DBGE001

[@petedawg]

VW likes to create its own problems.

[@anthonyxuereb792]

@@petedawg Yes that's true but I suspect something more than that happening here. There must be a thousand plus companies making things in China yet it's VW that cops the allegations, would they be so careless and stupid to suffer the wrath of the US government again?

[@Justacogg]

Enough with the EV’s already. There is plenty of news for traditional vehicles still!

[@foxtrotwolf6081]

Ford is overreacting. The same people who didn't buy the Ford Fiesta or the Ford Ecosport will be the same people who won't buy the $11,000 made-in-Mexico Chinese car. That car will be much more than $11,000 in US trim.

[@jamesvandamme7786]

That won't pass crash tests, not to mention poor range. Watch out for Dolphin and others, though.

[@davidmenasco5743]

​@@jamesvandamme7786The Dolphin and Seal and their newest SUV are on track to eat the lunch and dinner of several major automakers in several global markets.

[@MarkMeszarosYNG]

TESLA RULES BUY ON THE DIP

[@seymorefact4333]

can't wait to buy a TESLA....built by BYD!

[@danharold3087]

​@@seymorefact4333 I can easily see that happening. CCP nationalizes Tesla. In other words it is why Elon Musk says nice things about China.

[@brunoheggli2888]

Game over for Tesla!

[@danharold3087]

@@brunoheggli2888 Go Bruno GO !

[@hwirtwirt4500]

No hurry, the dip will last indefinitely.

[@TheJ1s]

I rather see a Camero EV to compete with Dodge EV muscle car. I wonder when Trump back in office he'll let China make that move? I wish GM just turn the Volt into a full EV, and for the Bolt they just need to make it a fast charging vehicle like Hyundai and Kia but I guess the Ultium will do that however, no new Bolts by next year.

[@phillyphil1513]

Q: I wonder when Trump back in office he'll let China make that move? A: nope. as i've said from the very beginning, despite the talk and the "fear mongering" from Munro and the others, you will NEVER see any CDM (Chinese Direct Market) vehicles being sold to consumers here in 'Murica. there's simply no appetite for it on EITHER side of the aisle in Washington, thus it's NOT any tariff that's blocking their entry into the US market, no, you're only made to "think" the tariff is what's blocking their entry... watch if they were to ever get around the tariff by building a plant in Mexico...? what you will then see is ANOTHER BARRIER "magically appear out of the blue" to bar their entry. that's right, the reality is most who are "baby young to the world" have no idea how Politics in 'Murica actually work, and that they have unknowingly bought into the HORATIO ALGER MYTH regarding the existence of a "Free Market" (however there's no such thing).

[@pepeshopping]

SO: WHEN will the US do the same to all those factories that are using IMMIGRANT CHILD LABOR?

[@davidmenasco5743]

Meanwhile, in the US, legislatures in several red states are considering proposals to loosen child labor laws. Presumably looking to bring the law in line with the practice.

[@taniabanes4707]

Who invited them first place? No one I believe

[@gooner3654]

​@@taniabanes4707was your family been invited in the first place?

[@maynotbe]

what do you call, working 2 or more jobs just to afford inflationary rent in America?, "forced Labor"

[@RichardKing-sx6xc]

*CHYYYNA CHYYYNA CHYYYNA*

[@jamesvandamme7786]

Lead, follow, or get outta the way!

[@P.Galore]

Continental tires are the worst tires I have ever owned. Noisy and wear unevenly. Avoid them.

[@F85M]

Bevs are Rubbish

[@tonymonastiere8510]

Nothing comes close to a Tesla! Also rans n dreamers, not even close. At least 10 years difference. All the domestic propaganda, wasted money! 💯🗽🇺🇸

[@brunoheggli2888]

Hahaha.your delusional!

[@tonymonastiere8510]

@@brunoheggli2888 Dare ya ta buy one!

[@hwirtwirt4500]

Tesla sells 10 year old designs except for the failed CyberDud.

[@tonymonastiere8510]

@@hwirtwirt4500 Yeah, but they work!

[@snookmeister55]

Highest customer satisfaction of any brand.

[@jamesonpace726]

Jeez man, a "font" of information, not a spewing, spraying fountain! English not yer 1st language, I guess....

[@desobrien3827]

Sean said "fountain" of Information which is correct grammar...I guess you should be back at school...not that you will learn anything today...from illiterate teachers and their "font of information"...😁

[@jamesvandamme7786]

English is not the first language of engineers.

[@davidmenasco5743]

A font is a fountain. Except when it's a typeface.

[@2012bigPerm]

Probably should recall every li-ion battery ever....forced labor all over that shit. We all just keep pretending this stuff doesn't happen. The world is a dark fucking place.

[@phillyphil1513]

re: "We all just keep pretending this stuff doesn't happen..." yup basically, ref: "DENIAL is a helluva drug..." also ref: "The ability to DELUDE yourself may be an important survival tool..." - Jane Wagner. turns out, the same behavior we see around Li-Ion batteries is the same behavior we've ALREADY SEEN around unwanted Election results, and the sudden arrival of a 100 year Global Pandemic.