Breaking Down the Jeff Nippard vs. Mike Van Wyck Drama: What Really Happened ?

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[@jayrajdesai5856]

Out of Character to assault someone and THEN release Merch about the whole incident to make some money out of it??

[@rtds2024]

and merch is .. better to not comment.. text on shirts are shit, like some 8yo kid made it

[@MrRoeper]

Gotta pay the puss off some how. It'll be a fine and that's it.

[@davidbrandon7950]

Fouad had a 'loyal as fuck' sale off the back of it too. The money speaks.

[@aaronbolden2081]

Thought about this too, then remembered Zimmerman sold autographed packs of Skittles and it kind of put things into perspective, for me at least. I also feel that Jeff is such a good dude that this was actually beneficial for him. So many people are collaborating with him now making him even more popular, with Mike...not so much.

[@john_m3619]

The whole situation is insanely stupid. Especially if you consider what triggered the whole situation. I could understand Mikes actions if Jeff was insulting him on social media or anything related to this kind of behavior. But that’s not what happened. Jeff’s response was really level headed and reasonable. Mike sabotaged his own career, disrespected the gym owner and made the industry look bad as a whole. For absolutely nothing. We already have a negative stereotype to begin with.

[@KalispellBarbell]

Well said, completely agree

[@WillyEast]

No insults justify someone assaulting another person.

[@boralistagryff6292]

If you understand assaulting someone because of what someone says you should change your mindset. Nothing apart from a threat to your life gives anyone the right to attack someone.

[@john_m3619]

@@boralistagryff6292 I meant it more in a „that would explain his behavior to some degree“ manner. It’s obviously not okay to basically sucker punch someone because your ego got insulted lol

[@Fitins400]

It wouldn't "explain" anything, keep your hands to yourself

[@Beutings]

There are other videos of Little Mike being aggressive/getting into people's faces. This is definitely in character.

[@baronmeduse]

And in those cases he backs down or has his agressive friends around him as 'backup'.

[@Beutings]

@@baronmeduse Smol behaviour

[@wchamp170]

Out of his character? Dave, I love everything that you do, but when someone shows you who they are, believe it. A moron does what Van Wyck did.

[@WizzdummHeadley]

ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON!!!

[@baronmeduse]

Even more, there are other videos out there with van Wyck displaying similar behaviour, The difference is that he didn't deal out any blows because it wouldn't have been so easy. The guy has screwed up his body and is angry at the world for it. Show me a 'bodyguard/bouncer' who doesn't think he is near-invincible.

[@WizzdummHeadley]

@@baronmeduse I'm one of those people that doesn't think he's invincible.

[@wchamp170]

@@WizzdummHeadley My friend, I was a professional fighter for 14 years at the highest levels. He's not invincible, not even close

[@WizzdummHeadley]

@@wchamp170 No one is.

[@InIt4DaMoney777]

"We've all had bad days." If you've had a bad day where you decided to throat punch someone twice, you need to check yourself into some anger management ASAP. Downplaying this sort of behavior is heinous. 👎🏻

[@Seigerootz]

Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold had a bad day

[@SOC-ir6im]

Yup

[@Legionarivss]

No it isn't heinous, he condemned it several times. Don't steer outrage for no reason. They aren't siding with van Wyck. It's also not a throat punch but a throat shove or push.

[@DartagnanMagic]

@@Legionarivss Van Wyk went offon Kanevsky too at an expo right?

[@Legionarivss]

@@DartagnanMagic He did, getting into an issue with Nippard I would reckon to be a bit harder though than with Kanevsky. Who's literally out to steer controversy. Don't know him personally Nippard but seems to be a pretty genuine and nice guy. S

[@boxerfencer]

Dave: with respect, Out of character? Don't you think neaderthall Mike would have been on his best behaviour simply because of what your association can do for him and his pitifil career and business? Obviously he was out of character when on your podcast.

[@TheJipino]

Yup. People are nice when they need something from you or an audience.

[@Handleoriginal12]

If someone acts a certain way everywhere but around you, he is not out of character with everyone else, he is out of character with you

[@reynaanderson6079]

He was dropping before that happened 😂 have you met him?

[@bobbydavis4144]

Might want to check the updated material with the CCTV. Mike literally chases Jeff around the gym. And based off other social media posts it seems very "in character" for Mike to treat smaller people like this. Mitchell Hooper had a good breakdown of it if anyone's interested.

[@mightyquinn5135]

Did watch it and that's a lie. Jeff approached Mike. As for Hooper I'd love to see how look it'd take before he smacked someone who tried poaching his clients. Which is what Jeffs been doing for months. That's why Mike made the first video. The sad fact is we live in asociety where men can be verbally taunted and bullied and are given no recourse. All part of this toxic masculinity culture.

[@bobbydavis4144]

@@mightyquinn5135 First off, he walked in his general direction with intent to talk to Mike to figure out what his vague threat was and Mike charged him, grabbed him by the throat, and pushed him over the seated row bench. Second, are you implying that Mike, a man who has 100+ pounds on Jeff and 5-7 inches on height on him and felt the need to "defend himself?" Third, where is your proof that Jeff has been "poaching clients?" If anything I'd assume Mike's personality and knowledge on training is what ran his clients off. He's an overbearing, condescending ass to damn near anyone on the internet. His videos prove his and if his clients saw them that's more than enough to send them running from him. Why involve that psycho in your life, let alone pay him for shitty, generic advice. Fourth, even if his clients are going to Jeff...that's business. If you want to make a living you need to be good at your job. By all indicators Mike is terrible at everything he attempts. Jeff on the other hand is successful as both a bodybuilder and powerlifter, and appeals to natural lifters. A demographic that takes up the majority of the gym space. Fifth and final, Mike's biggest issue and impediment is Mike. There's countless instances of the dude trying to act like some prison yard big shot online, threatening violence to anyone SMALLER than him. But running away or shutting up when someone bigger or with actual experience puts him in his place. He's the epitome of "toxic masculinity" if there ever was one.

[@bobbydavis4144]

@@mightyquinn5135 Did you report my reply to you? Or did someone else? If so that's beyond pathetic. End of the day, Jeff isn't poaching clients. Mike most likely ran them off because he's god awful at his job or they asked Jeff, a much more approachable individual, for guidance. Second, Jeff approached Mike with intent to talk and you're implying Mike was so threatened by Jeff he had to assault him to defend himself. Says a LOT about Mike's character. Third, It's not poaching if you lose clients. That is business. Be better at your job and you won't lose clientele. Mike's only issue is Mike and his prison bro wannabe ego. Good for him though, he'll be able to test that prison bro mindset and he how he stacks up for real in the following months!

[@McMuffin74]

@@mightyquinn5135Poaching his clients 😂 Mike is a 🐱

[@Gazzaroo]

Well if he was nice on your podcast then its a scientific fact it was out of character. For sure

[@strong_slav]

If Lil Mike Van Dyck had just been "in a bad headspace," he could've apologized by now and explained his actions. Instead, he's doubling down on his actions and selling merch around it.

[@Jets228]

sickening. Also really bad idea legally, because this will become evidence of his lack of remorse and inability to understand the consequences or potential consequences of his actions - aggravating factors that will go against him throughout his criminal case.

[@intoxicatedchocobo8370]

Bingo

[@aaronroberts5941]

Apologize to who ?! Us as entertainment subscribers? Man people in deluded head space now days is so sad . It’s non of our business, Jeff could have stayed the fuck away from Mike , definitely not have his camera man film it looking for more views . Look people now days think it’s ok and they are untouchable if they have a big following… your following isn’t going to be there when you decide to go to the same gym , then say something no matter what it is to a guy that has a no bullshit attitude, shut the fuk up and stay in your lane and if your smaller and not about that life stay away and keep you trap shut , simple as that . Little bitch went to the hospital for a cat scan just from a shove ? Come on ! Tell me your a bitch without saying your a bitch . Y’all mofos definitely are not out here in the real world walking the streets because there’s wallstreet guys that do worse than this in front of the exchange . So sad how everyone is a victim no matter if they are responsible for showing up and instigating the situation.

[@AniketShinde__]

​@@Jets228Case gets strong good for jeff

[@DipitDownit]

Davis is spot on. Mike’s entire “brand” is bitching about the current fitness industry and influencers (people like Jeff). It obviously bothers him to his core and he did what he’s probably wanted to do for a long time. Knocking around someone half your size is always a bitch move.

[@mightyquinn5135]

What bothered him is that Jeff who works as a personal trainer in the same gym as Mike was telling Mike's clients that Mike doesn't know what he's doing. That whole scientific training philosophy and in doing so was poaching or trying to poach Mike's clients. If noones never told you this here's some advice I was given as a young man, don't mess with another man's livelihood.

[@MrPorko2c]

@@mightyquinn5135what’s your proof of this? Sounds like some shit someone made up on the internet.

[@henrycheng7598]

​@@mightyquinn5135 except Mike repeatedly posits that his position is superior and makes personal attacks while Jeff states explicitly at the end of his short that he doesn't care if u listen to research articles or big guys at the gym. Which one sounds more like jealousy/poaching and which one sounds like peacefully coexisting in the same space with different training philosophies? One guy roids out and attacks a colleague without even a conversation first, the other tried to approach with a smile and hands completely down to deescalate with words. I'm sorry, but are we analyzing the same situation here?

[@matthiasvandekeere3085]

That's pretty much the same idea about his brand that I've developed since I started following Mike to be honest. The guy had pretty valid and informative training content at first, but it escalated pretty quickly into bitching about everything and everyone, that doesn't fit into his own mindset, about the industry

[@craigejacobs]

@@mightyquinn5135 So what? If my competitor is doing a shit job I'm going to use that to my advantage. If Mike was better at his job be wouldn't lose clients to another trainer.

[@bobbydavis4144]

End of the day, the way this all comes forward and ends up is: Mike posts a short asking all these "science based, natty lifters" if they're so good, where's their results and physiques? And does so in a blatant mocking and judgmental tone. Jeff responds back, in a passive aggressive manner highlighting his many accomplishments as a natural lifter, became a natural pro who has won comps, has set powerlifting records for I believe his weight class and/or age bracket. Mike goes out of his way in the CCTV footage to instigate their initial contact. Jeff chuckles because it was out of the blue and random, a response quite a few people have when they're put on the spot and nervous. Mike makes a comment to the effect of "Oh, it's about to get funny." Jeff finishes his set and starts to walk over to Mike, in his post stating with the intent to find out what Mike meant by his earlier statement. Mike walks up to Jeff, who isn't displaying any sort of aggression towards Mike, and grabs him by the throat and pushes him over a seated cable row machine. No talking, no arguing, just straight up stiff arms the guy by the neck. Jeff gets to his feet and attempts to put distance between the two. Mike pursues Jeff and pushes Jeff by the throat for a second time. Jeff still has done nothing to imply he's a threat to Mike and at this point even if he did it would be viewed as self-defense. Mike gets in Jeff's face. Goes to storm off and shoulders Jeff's camera guy, notices it's Jeff's camera guy and then shoves him, too. Someone who had nothing to do with their initial "beef" if you could even call this that. The only thing Jeff said that wasn't factually correct between his initial story and the video being released is Mike didn't shoulder check him when he initially walked up to him and said "Sup." Which given the circumstances and the events, this is understandable because a shoulder check did happen eventually to the camera guy. Adrenaline and fear make us see and process things in weird ways. To sum it up: Mike decided to be a condescending smartass to a demographic he's not apart of and thinks he's better than. Jeff replied back stating his accomplishments, which are greater than Mike's, being in that demographic. Mike threw a tantrum like a small child and assaulted Jeff and his camera guy because Jeff shot down and embarrassed Mike and his video. He did this in his place of employment, in front of a gym full of people, and on various forms of recording devices. This dude has everything that is coming to him. Jail/prison time and his professional line of work is dead. No gym is going to hire this man and I doubt he'll get new clients.

[@majungasaurusaaaa]

He will still have his niche clients that are meatheads supporting physical bullying. They have someone to rally behind. But no gym is gonna let him in.

[@mightyquinn5135]

You forgot to mention that Jeff was poaching Mike's clients for months. Telling them Mike doesn't know what he's doing. That's what led to Mike's "science based" video. Jeff knew there was bad blood and still approached Mike making sure the camera was on. He was looking for a problem and he found it. I was taught at a young age, you don't mess with a man's money or his reputation. Jeff did both. But unfortunately for Mike we live in a world where online bullying is OK. Where you can say anything and have the law on your side. That is until human nature and ager overcomes the fear of legal reprocusions and people respond like this. Trust me, it could have been alot worse for Jeff.

[@bobbydavis4144]

@@mightyquinn5135 See my other comment.

[@MrPorko2c]

@@mightyquinn5135you’re posting this reply everywhere. Show us the proof or STFU.

[@bobbydavis4144]

@@mightyquinn5135 See my other comment or report it, I don't care. You're delusional if you believe anything you have written here. Mike's terrible at his job and lost clients, don't want to lose clients be a decent trainer.

[@YourLocalMelf]

the first couple minutes of this clip are a true masterclass on how to downplay a serious (possibly incriminating) situation like I'm really in awe on how expertly it was done

[@TheRealGreybark]

Too many excuses for poor behavior, period!

[@srm6130]

Still waiting for any of the Big Mike meat riders to comment on why Mike had all this aggression for Jeff but not Joey Staxx or Tanner. Guys a 50 year old play ground bully and nothing more.

[@jdbutterfingers10]

Tanner woulda whooped his ass and Staxx woulda stabbed him up

[@daspam6526]

Mike responded like a insecure boy who has no emotional regulation. Textbook middleschool/highschool reaction.

[@craigejacobs]

grade school.

[@everythingisawesome23]

L take. Not even adressing the issue, Mike started and escalated the situation.

[@damiandmb2092]

Out of Character Dave??? Have you even watched any of his videos? nothing but negativity. I had to stop watching him a long time ago. Many people at his gym has said he's not a good dude. if one or two, sure, but if many have come out, best believe it. Mike isn't a good dude, sorry.

[@Jets228]

Unfortunately this incident is a black mark on the fitness industry and big muscular, tattooed bald dudes. Mike has not only done harm to his own reputation but unfortunately to all of those who "look like him", perpetuating the roid-rage, violent stererotype

[@CalvinWilliamRoss]

So just because he didn't throat punch someone on your podcast, you're impartial?! I think this is the first time I've disagreed with what you're saying. I guess there's a first time for everything.

[@Thunder029]

What Mike did needs to be roundly condemned. There is not a place for that behavior in the fitness community. Mike was out of control, out of line. There's no excuse. Everyone needs to call him out on it because that is not acceptable behavior in a gym. Or anywhere. But definitely not in a gym.

[@jamok3]

You probably saw a better side of Mike because you aren't 5'5" and 180 lbs.

[@shaman_ns]

Saw other clips of Mike when facing big guys. He does not behave the same and when asked to take it outside gives excuses. He is only physicallly aggressive when facing a harmless small guy

[@JohnSmith-cz3us]

Most people are like that.

[@chrisweidner4768]

Adult striking an adult, especially someone far smaller than you, unless protecting family, is inexcusable. Always.

[@Jets228]

exactly this, the one guy here said he feels weird about it because Jeff is smaller? No, it's because we recognize it's not a fair physical matchup and indicates bully behaviour from Mike.

[@Couldhavebeensomeone]

So you're saying small people have free reign to make problems with people bigger than them? 😂

[@azulsimmons1040]

The Nippard-Van Wyck incident seems tame compared to what went on in the Westside gym. Some of the Westside guys sounded like some violent lunatics.

[@boxerfencer]

@@azulsimmons1040 i thought the same, but those guys were all like that and they knew how Simmons ran his establishment. the name can't be said for a comercial environment where the owners run the possibility of liability, regardless of the waver they insist upon, because the risk of getting yourself and partners throat punched and thrown across the gym floor and possibly into pointy gym equipment, by nonetheless people who work there, is not a reasonable expectation in the mind of the public.

[@MollymaukT]

They didnt sound like violent lunatics, they WERE violent lunatics.

[@fauxshowyo]

That's cause people now are soft moist little sensitive tards. This is literally a nothing burger that people are farming for internet points. Men rough house, not like it was a punch.

[@MellonVegan]

@@MollymaukT I don't even think they'd argue that ^^

[@Micheldied]

The difference is that they all signed up for that knowing exactly what Westside was.

[@charnelveil669]

Have you watched the videos of him going off on Eugene Teo? No, Mike's a Bully who needs to be put in his final resting place.

[@darrenrandy7358]

Are you implying a death threat?!

[@MellonVegan]

@@darrenrandy7358 Yeah, definitely someone going way too far in their convictions. Dude should serve a sentence and then that's that. As it should be in a civilised society.

[@mightyquinn5135]

Sounding like another online bully. Let me guess, if you were face to face with Mike you wouldn't do shit

[@darrenrandy7358]

@@MellonVegan his sentencing will be probation, ZERO jail time...

[@stainz5714]

Defending that bully is disgusting It's is his character he did it He's a bully

[@ИвенИванов-ъ4я]

No one is defending him kid.

[@davorzdralo8000]

​@@ИвенИванов-ъ4яMaking excuses is not defending?

[@Jason-dh7fz]

This guy defending Mike, uncharacteristic as far as you know? I’ve had plenty bad days with a lot going on in my life and wouldn’t pull some crap like this.

[@Glime17]

Even the dude in the podcast said it that he wouldn’t want to fight him cuz he’s short. It’s kinda delusional to compare Jeff who is still extremely strong to your 12 year old just cuz they the same height lol. These guys who devote their lives to muscle are so worried about size and Van wick probably couldn’t stand a pipsqueak in his eyes “disrespecting” him

[@eladrio2311]

and Van Wyck is not even BIG, bigger than Jeff Nippard? sure, put him near the Mountain...

[@mr.grotto]

As soon as Dave decided to defend him by saying it's out of character based on how he knows him I decided to stop watching this video. If someone allowing their personal biases to become a defense for assault then I'm not sure anything they say afterwards carries any meaningful weight. Sure thats a bias on my end, but it doesn't involve condoning assault. I spent a great deal of time watching videos of previous interactions and conduct of Mike before forming an opionion because I understand myself that we all have bad days. All I can say is Dave needs to spend more time on social media, because ten seconds of searching and video footage upends his misguided opinion.

[@spacetime3]

There is No boths sides in this... Mike the coward he is assaulted Jeff... over 1 polite yt short... you'll notice the people that down play the cowardess of Mike are friends of his like Dave Palambo etc. This has nothing to do with this wouldn't have been viral... People in every generation don't sport bullying or violence like that.

[@DionMckissack]

Thus guy says he gets turned off by the whole thing and doesn't click on these things and it's unsavory then he proceeds to have Mike on the Podcast a few days later to make money and get clicks. Elite you're just like everyone else. Zero character taking advantage doing a pity party for this Mike character a well known biker skinhead that's a bodyguard for Drake just making excuses the entire time. We don't know what he's going through blah blah blah. What a joke

[@SaltMinerChad]

It might be a new character trait, but it is definitely not ‘out of character’. As a passive enjoyer of bodybuilding media, I am grateful to be able to see the positions of prominent coaches and athletes. What Mike did to Jeff is abhorrent and must be condemned by powerful men. It is necessary to have powerful men in our society. It is this kind of behavior that brings all men down, especially powerful men, in the eyes of society. Coaches and athletes that go out of their way to condone this behavior are exposed for their own poor character. There is NO EXCUSE. We must, collectively as men, condemn it.

[@memphismilano1415]

Jeff is WAY smaller a guy BUT WAY bigger a MAN.

[@Couldhavebeensomeone]

😂 crying to social media isn't being a man

[@SOC-ir6im]

‘Out of character’ ‘bad day’ lol cmon bro

[@pHaTtY111111111111]

Dave is basing all of this on HIS experience with Van Dyck. You can't blame him for looking at it in his pov based off what he has lived/experienced with his time around Mike. You think Van Dyck would try ANYTHING with a guy who has been in a Westside environment who is as big as Dave? Mike would never in a million years act hard against anyone like Dave. Hence why he is a bully/coward. It's the same shit that happens to people who discovered a friend of theirs was a serial killer...They OBVIOUSLY never experienced it so it's surprising.

[@stoempert]

The "bad headspace" excuse is lame. Resorting to physical violence is just a big NoNo unless in some cases of (self) defense. Also it seems obvious that this behaviour is definitely part of Mike's being.

[@johnreed1663]

So many excuses Dave. At least say maybe it was the gear. And yes it is out of character, look how he backed down to Joey Staxx and Tanner

[@pHaTtY111111111111]

Blaming gear is simplistic.(depending on the compound) If you're an asshole before gear, you're just going to be a bigger/stronger asshole on gear. If you're a calm and down to earth guy before the gear you don't just become Captain C*cksucker while on it.

[@eladrio2311]

it's not the gear, Jujimufu takes gear but when did you see him or heard talks about him being agressive? He even had a long friend and big part of his channel steal money from him, when did you hear that Jujimufu found out and went and punched the dude? Never. And jujimufu was also twice the size of the other dude.

[@PaulRutherford]

If We were being honest ..... Mike wouldn't have taken the same course of action (No matter how upset he was), if he had been facing 6' 8" 400lbs BRIAN SHAW ! ..... BULLY plain & simple

[@Shogun973]

No one tries to fight bigger people unless it’s really worth it. Lions don’t attack the biggest buffalo. They go for the weaker older smaller ones that’s normal. No adult should ever brag about being jacked and strong then cry victim. No grown man should ever say I was bullied with a straight face.

[@MellonVegan]

@@Shogun973 Ah yes right, literal victim blaming. Good thing courts exist to reign in nitwits like you.

[@Ice-Fall]

Van Wyck pulled a Will Smith.

[@Vargsohn]

OJ had one bad day.

[@BernieDiveley-il1qg]

?

[@Vargsohn]

@@BernieDiveley-il1qg OJ was a fine man except the day he murdered two people.

[@ThisIsGers]

That’s is in fact Mike’s character, the whole tough guy, tatted bully thing. Come on Dave.

[@adamek9750]

anyone siding with mike or downplaying what he did also has a stain on their character

[@iRushDiveTeam]

You have to respect a man who walks away from a fight even though it hurts his pride. Amount of bad things that can happen in an altercation could be far more damaging than one’s pride. Navy Seals who wait patiently to destroy enemies work with this mindset.

[@aresjerry]

Mike wouldnt dare touch eric kanesky or that other skinny tall prank guy. But put his hands on Jeff. All short kings should train combat sports though because of bullies and karens.

[@DrWNoLs]

It’s not confusing. You’re a big dude with legendary status. He respects you. He bullied Jeff because he doesn’t respect him. Bullies never go after everyone. They pick and choose. Reveals character not “out of” character.

[@AlejandroSanchez-pl6jw]

Jeff needs to stop milking it too

[@ofinniganmcfury4944]

Unpopular opinion: sometimes in modern society men have become too comfortable. We need monsters and a-holes to remind us that we can't just PR on a bench press to look tough in society and you need to back your words with physical play.

[@jimmyserna5312]

Unhinged w/Russel Crowe is the movie.

[@maximusX_]

why would Hight matter or mean anything? I'm sort 5,5 but 240 lbs and build like a tank, I was also a bouncer. just because someone is short doesn't mean they are not big.

[@baconblaster6422]

5 ft 5 is brutal. just not intimidating no matter how much bulk you put on.

[@maximusX_]

@baconblaster6422 go tell that to mma fighters or people with fighting backgrounds I been training Bjj for over 8 years worked up to a purple belt and also been a bouncer power lifter and bodybuilder do you really think someone like Mike would stand a chance? Hight means nothing

[@baconblaster6422]

@@maximusX_ all this rambling just comes off as “manlet” energy

[@maximusX_]

@baconblaster6422 and your lack of reality, and the fact that you are saying someone's height is somehow superior is giving off low IQ energy. You're obviously a troll craving attention on people's comments

[@MrCmon113]

That's really rare and your overall bulk is still limited. But yeah, it'd be more informative to compare weight.

[@glensims3744]

This whole incident only makes the industry look like a clown show. This is nothing more than a case of someone bullying a much smaller person. Makes Mike look like the worst kind of coward. That being said, I have nothing but respect for these two men commenting on this.

[@yanwain9454]

the movie dave is trying to remember is called "UNHINGED"

[@PredatorSoulfly]

Classic boomer L take.

[@MrJuly2020]

They are Gen xers dumbass

[@cszabo8899]

I appreciate the nuanced view while still yielding to basic principles. Nice talk!

[@davebesag]

It was a bad start describing an assault as a "fight".

[@jdude9002]

Sucker throat punching kid half your size but running away when a guy near your size says hell fight you. This coward needs to be in prison for long time.

[@Couldhavebeensomeone]

😂 grow up

[@chon4645]

Mike a criminal

[@billylocke9633]

What if Mike is just a bad person?

[@ianpullman203]

He also apparently wants to fight you if you ask him his height and weight, so , character changes can happen, and they can be negative.

[@LeonardoPostacchini]

There is another possibility: he is a coward and a criminal. It is pretty clear he believes in resorting to violence, he have proudly stated so, he also have shown to bail when the other seems a menace but is willing to attack those he does not perceive as a threat.

[@brokenthor]

saying bad head space is like boomer here having a seniors moment.

[@Couldhavebeensomeone]

You're always in a bad head space, no critical thinking skills

[@k.m.9801]

Don't know why anyone would try to excuse what Van Prick did.

[@anthonyrosario8982]

This podcast iant going anywhere with homeboy taking 6 mins to tell you that he doesn't know if the altercation is scripted.

[@RR-hl6zi]

What bothers me the most, is that nobody in Mike's circles have intervened before he attacked Jeff. There is more than enough video evidence of Mike being easily triggered and engaging in intimidating behaviour. He has been validated in toxic behaviour too many times. I really liked him when he was on your podcast. Palm striking somebody in the throat twice and then making money off of the incident is borderline insane. Pure Muscle & Fitness rightfully banned him from using the facilities, as I would have never allowed him back in after that just from that behaviour alone. Even if Jeff threatened to kill his mother, Mike should've taken a different approach and not try to physically harm the offender. Any attempts to downplay this incident only poorly reflects on the ones downplaying it. Not saying anything about it would be much better.

[@DavidAnthony0429]

The fact that the man was almost 2x his size

[@theprofessor8517]

It’s obvious you guys didn’t see the full video that came out. And the guy in the Pink Floyd shirt seems to have some screws loose. It’s not normal to go at someone’s throat and that consonant nasal thing going on with him doesn’t reflect things are going too good for him in general.

[@gunslingorgunslingorsadf8150]

What do you mean what happened? A 300 lb dude assaulted a 150 lbs dude from steroid induced rage... thumbs down for putting click bate over truth, titles matter more than content in reality.

[@frankjgornickjr3676]

Jeff nippard is a little guy and was assaulted more than three times along with the cameraman! What a bunch of BS!

[@craigejacobs]

People like Mike are why I carry at the gym.

[@biganthar]

JFC, what a ridiculous response. This was like listening to a politician answering a question. WTF.

[@Madchad6969]

Podcast about two grown man struggling to call out bully for his actions

[@ElFreako]

Leave it to Dave Tate to have the most mature and reasonable opinion. Makes me miss guys like John Meadows.

[@birdman4birdlegs]

Was it out of character for Mike if it was a random person or one of his people ? Sure Was it out of character for Mike when it's someone like Jeff? Absolutely not. Dude has had an open grudge against certain types of lifers and runs with a certain crowd. This was so pre meditated. Mike wanted this to happen

[@christopherfruth5744]

Jeff would be a good guest to have on. Unfortunately this would be the main topic now.

[@AnX0256]

Love these two dudes!

[@CsaVage90]

To all the people questioning Dave giving a devil’s advocate to Mike’s behavior, you gotta remember Dave’s background. He is a hardened, veteran lifter from WESTSIDE. He’s seen stuff like that go down probably on the daily because of who he trained with in the environment of what he termed “Hell With Weights.” Dave said it was wrong, but he’s not phased by a shove to the throat by a nutcase with a bald head and tattoos. It’s not a shock to an OG like Tate, AKA, zippy.

[@HammerShock23]

Yeah, but at Westside everybody knew what the deal was and how you'd settle disagreements. Even in an intensely aggressive environment like that, sucker punching someone isn't going to fly.

[@baronmeduse]

So what? I come from a dirty old iron gym too, where people got headbutted by roid heads for moving someone's towel. It's still wrong.

[@CsaVage90]

@@baronmeduse he said it was wrong. I said it was wrong. You said it was wrong. We’re all in agreement.

[@baronmeduse]

@@CsaVage90 Well, you offered 'mitigating circumstances', but there are none.

[@CsaVage90]

@@baronmeduseThere are for Dave’s viewpoint, but never for a bigger man assaulting a smaller man.

[@Couldhavebeensomeone]

So many crybabies feom reddit in the comments who not only dont lift, but have never been in a fight in their life. If you atagonize someone, run your mouth, you are responsible for whatever comes your way, not social media or gym goers, you.

[@ryankproductions7943]

What about the manager cody in the background??? Watched it all go down, he failed just like Mike!!!!

[@chasecampbell4954]

To all the people that hear this and think that Dave is making excuses, you understand that you can analyze a situation WITHOUT getting personally angry. All this is speculation on a possible mindset, it’s not an excuse, it’s called a conversation and we ALL have our own perspective based on our own experiences that are going to come in to play when analyzing a situation, that’s called empathy, also not an excuse. “Fuck him, yea fuck him” is not a conversation nor adds anything, hell it’s a podcast.

[@toysfan9072]

Big tough guys who follow both acting like hysterical children. It’s hilarious

[@brucetungsten5714]

Looks like Lord Of The Rings triggered Mike's PTSD.

[@JP-ATV]

Something to keep in mind is that just because someone’s words and tone are ‘polite’ doesn’t mean they aren’t potentially trying to get under someone’s skin. One of my biggest challenges with managing my emotions is dealing with sneaky or snarky people. I’m not saying that’s necessarily the case here, but it’s essential not to assume someone is a good person just based on their image. Will Smith, for example, was considered a ‘super humble, nice guy,’ yet he turned out to be the opposite.

[@goodman_1955]

Lifting weights is serious bidness

[@barad-dur9236]

Bros breathing like he’s wearing scuba underwater

[@dangster1151]

Yeah... but whatever beef you have, or how bad the day is ... just take it outside the gym where there is no equipment that can be dangerous. And in addition, Mike is a coach, he should know better not to do that B.S. in the gym.

[@hooskerdoo3130]

Out of character? Ive seen at least 3 vids of that guy tough talking people at expos. One even said take a break and we will take it outside and mike did nothing. Difference is the dude was like 6'2+ and could probably handle himself. The other was the height weight guy mike was in that vid to getting huffy with him.

[@reaper3616]

No, he wouldent have done that to another biger man and there is a video already where he could have done it but backed down

[@ChautamGancy]

Dude looks like John Brzenk with the hat on

[@Daniel.Patrick.Walsh88]

Every body always talks about how size doesn't matter until it does 😅

[@ZukuseiStudios]

On the fence much…

[@smackmac11]

The people in the comment throw around “throat punch” way too liberally 😂

[@riddlescom]

You guys are a wrong. He was not drunk. He was sizing up the little man to put him in place. He said he only respects size. And that Jeff is a wuss mid simp that he can push around. Get real guys. You think he is going to push a 360 lb mma fighter.

[@craiglawson663]

Van Wyck being jealous of Jeffs 2 Million followers. Simple.

[@dongerdong1184]

That wasn't a fight, ct scans and youtube videos over being shoved. My 12 years olds do that to eacother twice a week.

[@HammerShock23]

You're right that it wasn't a fight, but not because it wasn't serious. Jeff didn't escalate it after getting throat shoved to the floor. When an ADULT makes a decision to assault another adult, they've earned the opportunity to be judged for doing so.

[@baronmeduse]

Your 12 year-olds don't have the same pushing power. They've never throat pushed each other 6 feet backwards.

[@MellonVegan]

Maybe be a better parent. Children that age shouldn't still be starting physical altercations. They might literally be legally liable depending on your country in 2 years. The rest of the liability lies with you.

[@bbhoutdoors4605]

Not dave tate defending him

[@jbfitness101]

Why does Dave always breathe he's got a little booger he's trying to sniff back up into his nose? lol

[@StepIntoYourMoment]

Terrible take. Spineless of you both to not call Mike out for that horrible behavior. So disappointing to see you both try to cover for him. Unsubbing.

[@cazschiller]

Great shirt Dave 👊

[@crapoleon]

Came here to watch reaction. Calling it out of character is pathetic. Wont' be watching any thing else you do.

[@rtwoods]

Unsubscribed

[@BernieDiveley-il1qg]

Bye