BRITS React to When a Cop Accidentally Records Something Shocking

[@cgt2816]

I'm a former US Federal LEO. I worked in corrections. While dark humor was often used to cope/make it through difficult situations, there are some subjects you just don't joke about. It says a lot about a person's character to describe someone as having "limited value" and to turn around and place a dollar value on that's person's life. Given what I know of the world, that whole conversation was heartless and that woman tragically loss her life much too soon. SMDH.

[@scottbmedic]

I was a Paramedic for 28 years and dark sometimes morbid humor is very common in any emergency services, but never to include anything negative or poor taste towards any people involved. The Police officers both of them should be fired and I don’t say lightly I have many law enforcement fr😢some even were also Paramedics and EMT’s that I worked with in addition to the ones that we would respond to the same incident with different roles

[@ivankawnartist]

The officers clearly tried to play mental gymnastics about the whole thing. I still think they're shameless.

[@charlesmascari8197]

This is another example of how law enforcement view civilians. Had the victim lived, the victim probably who have been arrested for obstruction. *

[@BK32Kingz]

"Limited value" wow, really hope his career took a big drop in value after this.

[@annajosullivan]

As a respiratory therapist for over 20 years who worked Trauma/ICU, CCU, and SICU I understand dark humor because that’s just a way to deal with things in a high pressure setting. However, I never did so at the expense of a dead patient. That is just going too far.

[@kinjiru731]

The testimony about coping etc just sounded like what anyone would say if they were making excuses to defend bad behavior.

[@willvr4]

As soon as I heard his maniacal laugh that seemed to come out of nowhere, I immediately related it to soldier or trauma responders who use that type of talk as a defense mechanism, because they're so immune to it. It often leads to PTSD later in life. That being said, he probably shouldn't be working in a DUI unit. That "$11,000 she was only 26 not a high value of life" I assume was his way of referring to how the cops usually handle these kind of situations...like an insurance company and heartless.

[@gabriellaama3325]

I’m from Seattle. This incident was really upsetting. 😢

[@TheAmericanDreamChaser]

When I was a volunteer fireman, it was written that we can go 10 mph over the posted speed limit when driving code. But everyone went over that as there wasn't really any consequences for going faster. Plenty of times I've gotten behind a police car going to the same call so I just kept pace.

[@JeffTaylor-tr7my]

I'm a Seattle resident and was in the area the night of the accident (afterwards but before the scene had been cleared by SPD). The community uproar was much focused on the ethnic origin of the victim. Which in my opinion was not relevant to the police response. The officer that struck the young woman almost certainly was going too fast. But he certainly handled the tragic accident in a professional and humane manner. Police in Seattle and probably around the world use dark humor as a coping mechanism. Its probably not healthy for them and certainly horrifying to anyone overhearing it. But it is very common. The cynicism of just writing a check to the victim says more about the SPD. Who frequently throws money at problems rather than addressing them properly.

[@leeyaferguson9019]

I'm in Washington, too. Yep.

[@michiganjfrog366]

Re-watch it, he turned those sirens on when he seen her.

[@JRFrancisco20088]

No excuse whatsoever about the "private conversation." She had limited value. Just write a check. Everyone defending this, say that when one of your family members is killed in an accident.

[@LukaDonesnitch]

A lot of ppl have in this country are sick, It was an accident for Dave. The other guy was just an A-hole and that’s a cultural thing. The ones defending it do so because they behave the same way. So they feel guilty and they don’t like when you point out they are a tool.

[@erayburn6354]

The REAL problem here was not so much _what he said_ but more so that what he said was accidentally recorded & subsequently "leaked" to the press. His comments & laughter were incredibly inconsiderate, crass, rude, insulting & highly offensive, to say the least. However, in all fairness, this was intended to be & expected to remain a *PRIVATE conversation* between the two officers. I try to be as objective as possible since, no doubt, we all say & discuss things *_in private_* that we would NEVER expect, intend or want to be released to the public! I also try to remain cognizant of the fact that law enforcement, first responders & military OFTEN deal with trauma, death & the worst of human nature; they must find their own ways to cope & psychologically process the horrific things they witness on a daily basis. They cannot become emotionally compromised, otherwise, they couldn’t do their job. I'm realistic & they’re just flawed human beings...like the rest of us.

[@richardrobin5837]

I have several combat deployments and have killed and seen my brothers killed. This kind of humor is exactly how we processed all we saw and did. Unless you have been in this situation you will never understand

[@firefighterchick]

As a firefighter for over 20 years, I am fluent in dark/gallows humor. It is a coping mechanism. Although, I would have been hyper-aware of my surroundings before engaging in using it. The general public would not understand anything said using that type of humor. Saying that I think it was over the top and apparently he has other issues.

[@raamjames1]

Funny how we make conclusions after hearing only one side of the conversation.

[@Vendrix86]

jesus if a single individual is constantly investigated internally get em out of there...I don't understand why that's so difficult.

[@LukaDonesnitch]

Police Union and the culture.

[@Hoycelolland]

But policing can’t understand why no one wants to be a cop? Really? Truth always comes out when they think no ones listening. This is not a private car. This is public property owned by the people, working for the people, officer paid by the people.

[@jwalker3343]

Nurses and Doctors use dark humor too. It is a coping mechanism, but I agree its not very professional and should be done on your off time.

[@georgelutchendorf9519]

This type of humor shouldn't be done anytime.

[@cindymatthewsarrowdalearts6449]

Gallows humor, that's what it's often referred to, and yes, this appeared to cross the line, but if this guy's been investigated so many times, something tells me that his crass remarks after this young woman's tragic death are the least of his transgressions. The department needs some serious overhaul if an officer has had 22 or whatever investigations and he's still working! That's a lot of "smoke," so surely there's a fire burning at the heart of how this guy does his job. And if the department doesn't hold him to account from the first investigation, and keeps him in the field through all those investigations to come, it's no wonder he doesn't seem to realize just what's appropriate. Running an organization, whether it's a police force or a beauty parlor, is much like being a parent. You give your people as much rope as they can successfully handle while maintaining a level of professionalism. When it's clear they're "coloring outside the lines," of acceptable behavior, you need to haul 'em up short and redirect that energy immediately, just like with an unruly child. My son worked in a busy city ER for several years, the overnight, 3rd shift. They saw all kinds of things and the staff/police/firefighters, were all good friends and shared many seemingly off-color jokes about patients, each other and situations. One of the doctors, who happened to travel 4 hours to work for 4 days straight, with his family living in a larger city, while he had a small place here. Depending on the night of the week, they'd have a lot of people who were on Medicaid who used the ER like their general practitioners, coming in for every tiny ailment. The doc's nickname was Hash and the staff referred to these patienrivate patients," It was inappropriate but it was a running joke and cracked them up every time, a much-needed stress outlet. My son loved that job until bureaucracy made things difficult. There were a few guys near him in age and they were tech-heads like him, so they had lots of fun with silly things on slow nights. One night it was well below 0 degrees all night, so cold that not even any of Dr Hash's private patients came in. My son had read on the internet that if you throw a pan of boiling water into the air at zero or below, it'll create snow. They couldn't believe that was true so they found a large plastic bowl, filled it was water and nuked it to boiling, than ran to the ambulance bay and slammed open the doors and threw the water into the air, creating an instant snowfall. They thought it was fascinating and so every time someone new came into the ED, they had to demonstrate. Cops, firefighters, pharmacists, you name it, they all got their own "snow." Not exactly what they were getting paid to do.

[@georgelutchendorf9519]

What are you trying to say?

[@Out-Of-Service]

Not uncommon for there being a couple of cops in a given area to have been investigated many times. Unfortunately, their union will protect them, making it tough to discipline or remove them. I have a buddy who was a cop in a large city. He was a little wild and often stepped over the line. He would often pull over friends as a prank. I heard that he would also confiscate stuff from people and keep it or resell it. We weren't close, so I don't know for sure. The incident that finally got him fired was open hand smacking a high school boy. He responded to a call at the school about the boy fighting, and I guess the other kid was seriously hurt. The kid was 17yrs old and about the same size as him, so not a little kid. While questioning, the kid was being a smart mouth punk and cussing at him, etc. It got heated, and then the kid spit in his face. He reacted and smacked the kid upside the head. Of course, somebody was recording it with their phone, and it got leaked to the media. He was later charged and had a trial. Basically, he got a slap on the wrist but did lose his job. Of all the shit he did, the one thing that could be justified got him fired. Cop or not, you spit in my face, there will be a reaction.

[@bohicagaming4462]

It shouldn't of been to hard to find out Seattle's PDs policy on why the other cop stated he wasn't going to ask questions especially after he gave a list of reasons.

[@RevPeterTrabaris]

According to the law of the state in this video and officer can: "(c) Exceed the maximum speed limits so long as he or she does not endanger life or property;" (from the state website). Sad and tragic.

[@Tbone1492]

Tragic accident. They weren't involved. It's easy for them to laugh. The one involved is definitely not smiling at all

[@bigplanett]

Why is it easy? A young woman died. That should be given sadness both in professional and private situations. This highlights everything that's wrong with US police culture. They think they are above the law.

[@kevinprzy4539]

@@bigplanett why is it easy? it's a simple coping mechanism that has been highly studied by therapists anybody with half a brain and minimal mental health knowledge post year 2000 would know this.

[@brianlewis5692]

tragic 😞

[@buckbuck9225]

Gallows humor my fucking ass.

[@tedrowland8672]

WE MISS SOPHIE!!

[@thelight9935]

Tragic story but I’ll never understand going out alone especially at night wearing both headphones or AirPods in.

[@pointlessmanatee]

JESUS CHRIST

[@goatitisful]

Gallows humor is important for the mental status of first responders. From doctors, to cops, to firefighters and military. Without the ability to laugh at terrible things, they are left to internalize this stuff and cope in unhealthy ways.

[@Mvrky0]

so it's good to speak ill of the dead if it makes you feel better? even going as far as saying she had limited value and laughing, literally minutes after killing them? Mental

[@pacmon5285]

​@@Mvrky0The one joking wasn't the one who killed her. Humor is a common coping mechanism, but also this cops "jokes" were extremely distasteful even if it was just to cope.

[@Howard0Chris]

@@Mvrky0 as you can see, they’ll make any excuse lol

[@controlZchannel]

Good excuse... every single time.

[@LukaDonesnitch]

@@Mvrky0​​⁠These guys seem to have a lot of excuses when it comes to a certain profession. “Limited Value”. These guys making excuses feel the same way.

[@leeyaferguson9019]

Try Lack Luster.🤔 👍 good.

[@StackRunItUp]

How “smart” do you have to be to obviously hear a cop car coming and think “it’s time to walk across the street” ???? And even if she didn’t hear it, why do you have on AirPods at night, in the street?

[@heshy14]

That’s what I’m saying 👏

[@MannyBrum]

Provided she didn't have the pros with active noise cancelling (or the noise cancelling was off), she probably heard it but not until it was a bit closer than she would have otherwise. He was travelling at around 70 mph and at that speed he'd travel about 25 feet in just the average human response time. If he didn't see her, she didn't see him, and another thing that people don't take into consideration is that in a city street like that surrounded by tall buildings, it can be difficult to tell which direction the sound is coming from. The sound is not only coming directly from the cop car, but also bouncing off the buildings at different angles as the car is moving. That all likely conspired to cause her to panic, she had a split second to react and her brain chose the wrong thing.

[@StackRunItUp]

@@MannyBrum you can live without having AirPods in…. Doesn’t matter. And that’s obvious

[@Mvrky0]

we're not all superman like you, we don't expect cars to be travelling way over the speed limit so even if we see them we don't expect them to smash into us Hindsight is 2020, and you're proving that point more than anyone else possibly could

[@jermainejohnson1657]

Another clown commenting bs

[@cp368productions2]

His siren was on when that idiot ran right out in front of him, you can hear it on the dashcam. It looked like the pedestrian deliberately ran in front of the unit. They were not in the lane and then suddenly bolted right in front of him. It's true that humor is needed to move on, that happens daily. Emergency services make dark jokes all the time to not break under the situation. In private which he was, but that joke was crossing a line. You don't put value on a life.

[@solace6700]

You deserve whats coming to you: cp368productions2

[@Mike_For_Sure]

Ok, yes an accident is an accident. But YOU wouldn’t want officers immediately talking shit and laughing about your friend or family member. Seems like you’re the idiot really. lol

[@Ywipm]

You’re not very bright

[@Xfactor444-x4n]

You are a liar!

[@Mike_For_Sure]

Nice edit to your comment, which somehow got rid of mine. lol smh

[@aaronwieman8368]

Can’t help anyone if you don’t get there or make a situation worse.

[@TheAmericanDreamChaser]

They said 50s not fast for a trained driver. You can't be trained and kill somebody😂😅 Goofy

[@CasuallyCareening]

Incredibly odd how they didn't just stop where they were, and instead chose to run right in front of the car. Almost like they wanted to be hit. Wonder if they didn't realize how fast the car was going, and they tried for a lawsuit, insurance fraud, or something like that.

[@georgelutchendorf9519]

??

[@CasuallyCareening]

@@georgelutchendorf9519 What don’t you understand? The lady wasn’t in the path of traffic, walking slowly, and right as the car approached she decided to start running into the path of traffic. It makes no sense for any sane person to do that, unless they were trying some kind of insurance or lawsuit scheme.

[@Putt6523]

Sorry for this situation to happen. Looks like Pedestrian was wearing black as well as it was dark out, bad combination

[@IOSARBX]

Office Bloke Daz, This is amazing! I can't stop smiling!

[@bigplanett]

You're a weird dude to make this kind of comment on a video like this.

[@SchrödingerKousae]

@@bigplanett LMAO YEAH, but fuck it made me laugh to see that comment on such a morbid video.

[@user-wr9ej6xe4j]

This guy is a bot troll. He makes this same comment on numerous videos. Very weird. Keep note of his name and always thumbs down or report them as a bot

[@randychase305]

"Dark Humour" or "Gallows Humour" has been around as long as humans have walked the earth. People have become far too soft. It's a contest to see who is for offended and sensitive.

[@brendabowie6159]

You are of little value.

[@jimcathcart5116]

And you wonder cops are assholes

[@user-wr9ej6xe4j]

Dont walk in the street at night before looking both ways. Literally EVERYONES mom taught them that when they were 5 years old. But we've gotten dumber as a society. It's tragic for sure. But the cop was racing to save an overdose victim. This kind of accident doesnt happen often, because most people look both ways before crossing a main street

[@odemusvonkilhausen]

Unfortunately, Daz, these were two veteran cops having a private conversation, that was unknowingly recorded, which is the only reason you're even aware of it. So, they don't need to justify any of their statements for your benefit, whether you understand it or not.

[@controlZchannel]

A private conversation doesn't equate to innocent conversation. I'm sure Hitler had severl private conversations about Jews.

[@janemary8339]

When it becomes publicly known... you gotta expect the public to have an opinion about it. And if said conversation casts the public servant in a negative light as regards his suitability for the job he holds, then demand for an explanation is even more justified.

[@odemusvonkilhausen]

@@janemary8339 I expect everyone to have an opinion about everything, but whether that opinion matters is a subject of debate. Cancel culture is coming to an end, so it would appear that the winning side, of that debate, is that it does not. Victimhood is a dying fad.

[@georgelutchendorf9519]

It seems that the conversation wasn't so private after all. What is said in darkness will come to light.

[@heshy14]

If you can’t see/recognize those unbelievably bright LED lights, the cop isn’t the problem 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@jermainejohnson1657]

Nah you're the problem 🤡

[@murieljames4022]

@heshy14 * What do you mean for goodness sake, she was like a deer caught in high beam headlights and she was already in the crosswalk. It was said that the cop was going faster than he mentioned he was going, she was at the mercy of his car.

[@Sandman60077]

I don't care if you're in a crosswalk or not, if you walk into a road without looking then you deserve the Darwin award. He probably had ear buds in with loud music playing and didn't look because there was a clear line of sight all the way down that street and if he had a little common sense he would've looked and saw the flashing blue lights. I'll never understand why people walk around with ear buds in. Cities are inherently dangerous enough without taking one of your 5 senses away.

[@jermainejohnson1657]

I never understand why a sad excuse of a human being like you commenting bs

[@futuregenerationz]

This guy saying he overdosed on cocaine sounded pretty ok to me. He was freaking out, but it was not an emergency. Since he wouldn't give his name he probably deserved no response at all.

[@AndrewSmith-qw5kt]

I'm so tired of being FIRST! 🏆☹️

[@spacehonky6315]

Amazing! Is your commentary always so interesting?

[@AndrewSmith-qw5kt]

@@spacehonky6315 Yes I've been told so

[@ReneRamirez-d9h]

Saying about someone who was killed tragically that she was just a regular person, then laugh hysterically then diabolically say " She had Limited Value" is not humorous whats so ever, making light of a tragedy at the expense of the person who was killed is pure evil...or trying to make an excuse to say humor is something for them to process because of the daily tragedies they have to endure... bullshit! ....you took that job under oath, you took that job knowing you will see horrific things...you should never use humor in any type of way when it comes to deaths. It shows your wicked character as a police officer...the Public supposed to trust you. It's very disheartening to hear this auto between two police officers.