But at WHAT COST?!?! Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered PC System Requirements analysis

[@KnightofAges]

First I thought: "whoa, it does look nicer!". Then I realized I was looking at the Original image and not the remastered one...

[@metroplex29]

It happened to me, then I saw the remaster one and I was even more amazed

[@chuc.dxq3809]

Same 😅

[@Ziplock9000]

@@metroplex29 That makes no sense.

[@massterwushu9699]

The DF video on this actually blew me away with how much they put into this. It looks incredible. can’t wait to replay on my 7900xt

[@dondumitru7093]

@@massterwushu9699 My take on the remaster is that they appear to have taken the most-updated engine for Horizon Forbidden West, and ported the Horizon Zero Dawn content into that engine, using as much of the graphical assets like foliage, ground textures, etc. from Forbidden West and then basically creating any new assets where there wasn't anything from Forbidden West to fill some requirement.

[@LatinLegacyNY]

Back in the day, this was called an HD texture pack that was free to download.

[@dangleberries992]

Great story grandpa

[@GamingLovesJohn]

@@dangleberries992No way you’re bootlicking corpos, bud.

[@brenxxon8971]

@@GamingLovesJohn Johnny silverhand??

[@Wade__Wilson]

Back in the day, all "dlc" were free.

[@khaled8671]

No HD texture pack can change games like this! You are delusional.

[@Supermrloo]

This is probably a practice project for Nixxes to do bigger things other than porting.

[@tejendrachettri5970]

Yes, this is what I heard as well. If it's true i guess it's fine.

[@via_negativa6183]

Nixxes have been doing best in class ports for a decade or more. Why would this be practice.

[@Kira11259]

@@via_negativa6183 studios hire new people

[@Supermrloo]

@@via_negativa6183Did you watch the video? Nixxes haven't remastered games before

[@Plague_Doc22]

I honestly would love if they did remasters as well. They do such a great job for a tiny team.

[@reverieanimates887]

Witcher 3 made an update for free about years ago.

[@ThBlueSalamander]

And they weren't the types to uglify or gayify their female characters lol

[@lawnmanGman]

the branch of the engine was stable for transfer, if they moved it to the cyberpunk branch its equivalent, stoopid

[@meisterwu8922]

And that update also destroyed performance, especially on the CPU side.

[@Sephyroth97]

they just put a bunch of mods on it though, they didn't actually have to ask thei own team to remake materials, assets, vegetation etc...

[@samuelfreitas277]

It would be an insult if that update was paid after the cyberpunk disaster

[@speedforce8970]

Guys, this isn't actually a remaster. It's more like an enhanced edition esque release kinda like how Metro Exodus had one since you can just pay 10$ if you own the game

[@HapPawhere]

It's "Remastered"

[@speedforce8970]

@@HapPawhere the marketing department and Sony themselves fucked up massively by calling this a remaster and fucking around with the price of the original even taking it down for purchase. If they just left the original game, released an enhanced edition client for 10$, no one would bat an eye

[@yourlocalhuman3526]

@@HapPawhere nah

[@bricaaron3978]

There is no such thing as a "remastered" video game. Games are not _mastered_ to begin with, so they can't be _remastered._ It's meaningless marketing fluff. Someone borrowed the concept of remastering from audio/video recording --- precisely because it _sounds good_ and doesn't actually _mean_ anything specific when applied to video games. That way no one can pin them down when there's any question of whether a game is a good remaster or a bad remaster or a "true" remaster. Who's to say? EDIT 11-1-24: Typo

[@kevinerbs2778]

the original is still a better game.

[@THEpicND]

Zero dawn is still gorgeous to this day. When I first got my system this was one of the game where I thought "wow this really is next gen graphically"

[@bricaaron3978]

When was that that you got your first gaming PC?

[@Xist-Mob]

Shoulda been an optional "next gen update"

[@dondumitru7093]

I think it is "unfortunate" that the original version has been de-listed for sale, that the remastered version has received a modest price increase, and especially unfortunate that the discounted price that were routinely available on the original version are not being offered on the remaster and almost certainly will not be offered until the remaster has been in the market long enough to reach the same point as if it were a new title ready for discounts.

[@semtexxl4023]

@@dondumitru7093 That is the whole point of this unecessary remaster. The goal is to massively inflate the price of heavily discouted and relatively older game. Not a bad strategy for milking the money for the exactly same thing. This should be free update like Witcher 3 next gen update. It is also really funny that everybody is talking about this for me really overrated game while Days Gone remaster is in works. Again not necessary as Days Gone 2 would be better but still more interesting imo. Horizon is one of a few unfinished games sitting on my nvme to this day. Comes from a person that is routinely 100% every game.

[@ElectroMoe]

Just thinking about how many different engines Nixxes has to work around with for their ports…and it seems inhuman

[@riven4121]

Decima, Insomniac's unnamed engine and Sucker Punch's unnamed engine pretty much.

[@BigDoggTheDon]

they are getting paid boo hoo

[@psychogamer9252]

@@BigDoggTheDon Really? I thought they were working for free.

[@Extreme96PL]

@@BigDoggTheDon It's not about the pay, it's about the fact that you have to learn all these engines and to some extent the game's code. If you think that's not so bad, think about how many studios are unfortunately planning to abandon their in-house engines in favor of UE5. Personally, I don't like them abandoning their in-house engines because UE4 and UE5 in the final products feel like very crappy and poorly optimized engines with alot of gimmicks which tanks performance, and every game has the same problems. But all these gimmicks and the fact that multiple studios will be working with the same engine means that it will be much easier and save a lot of time on the actual development of the game.

[@100500daniel]

Thankfully they don't have to work on Unreal-Stutters 5 which is taking over the whole industry 😅

[@YOG3NSHA]

Having a remaster after only 5 years is a pathetic money grab that shows a lack of creativity in the industry. It's not even impressively better.

[@propeldragon]

Came out in 2017. I think your math is wrong.

[@jeremylotr]

Everything is a money grab. And this game is 7 years old, not 5. And it has a huge fan base. And the original looks bad.

[@minhhieunguyen8096]

⁠@@jeremylotrtypical ahhh sony fanboy. Yeah huge fanbase which want to play the FUCKIN same story and still pay 70$ for minimal graphical changes. Brainless ahh fanbase. Also, dont see a lot of people ask for it. Mark my word this is gonna flop HARD.

[@minhhieunguyen8096]

@@jeremylotroriginal is famous for the graphic wdym 😂 story is mid as fck.

[@megamanx1291]

No tf it doesn't ​@@jeremylotr

[@zdspider6778]

Yeah, it absolutely did NOT need a remaster. I played almost all of the Killzone games (PS2, PS3, PS4 and PSP) except for the one on PS Vita. Why not remaster one of those for the PC? It was their bread and butter before HZD.

[@RosaGatinho]

Because Nixes don't make these games or have any familiarity with their codes

[@MichaelPohoreski]

Guerrilla Games was sick and tired of Killzone so they put all their focus into HZD hoping it would take off. It was never the breakout success they were hoping so they are milking it. *Art Director Roy Postma says,* _"We were done with it as a team. As a studio, we needed to refresh the palette. It was, by choice, the opposite of Killzone.”_

[@asj8259]

Hell yeah I completely agree. I would love killzone 2 to be re-mastered on pc.

[@Nandinandito]

Because Horizon is a money maker and Guerilla wants money. Simple capitalism.

[@nfugitt89]

The momentum for that series died when they faked "gameplay" footage for Killzone 2

[@Kryptix0III]

Nixxes becoming PlayStation’s PC Porting/Remaster studio is perfect. hope they can remaster PS3 games next for PS5/PC

[@x0Fang0x]

I'm kinda sad that Bluepoint (PS's remake studio) is not remaking anymore. i wanted them to remake old ps classic games.

[@liquidpulse1713]

@@x0Fang0x They are. They just haven't announced what they're working on.

[@DaAlphaDawg]

I hope they re-remaster the original 3 uncharted games to ps5 and PC in the same year😭

[@GamePat96]

@@DaAlphaDawg Damn that would be a dream come true. Never understood why they just released the 4th on pc without any of the first 3 being even somewhat close to in sight. It was never going to be a huge success on pc because of that, and the somewhat bad performance on day one didnt help😅

[@UrQuietGamer]

​@@DaAlphaDawgI hope they remaster uncharted 1 to 3 as well. Then, perhaps uncharted 4 and 5 would get more sales.

[@tjep2670]

Considering how many games could use a port or a remastor, or even a port and remaster I don't know why the chose Zero Dawn.

[@riven4121]

The remaster was intended to coincide with the now cancelled HZD TV show.

[@x0Fang0x]

ask Sony. they probably have a list and they are just going through 1 by 1.

[@Argoon1981]

"safe bet"

[@JeremyBell]

Probably most convenient for Sony to do. They already had the game engine and assets from forbidden West. A lot of things probably could be copy pasted over. Hardest part was redoing the voice lines.

[@cass7448]

@@riven4121 I really doubt that. I think if the show was still in production it would still be years away.

[@protator]

PC re-Master Race

[@__-fi6xg]

yeah but we many choices, playstation is literally re-mater console. More remasters than original games

[@codyking4253]

Steam alone, just one of the many, many games distribution companies, has a library of 90,000 games. How many you got?

[@dondumitru7093]

Let's say you are going to put in only a total of 70 hours in any particular game, as a 10 hours per day, 7 days a week activity. So that is one game played-out per week. If you don't take a vacation, you need 52 games every year to accomplish that. Are there 52 games published every year that are long enough that they take at least 70 hours? I'm pretty sure the answer is "yes". So not to worry. Remasters are not sucking up so many development resources that the supply of original games is threatened.

[@c523jw7]

😂 1 game remastered for pc vs an entire peasant box full of 30fps remasters

[@codyking4253]

@c523jw7 Get outta here fan boy.. before I end up making you look bad.

[@arthurchu4491]

Bethesda: Who's excited to see ES5 next-generation edition? Rockstar : Get in the line! GTA5 ps5pro edition for 70 dollars!

[@juanblanco7898]

We'll definitely be getting a GTA 5 PS5 Pro Enhanced Edition before GTA 6.

[@flatfish-d9o]

Once again here to request a look at the history of generational GPU price:performance improvement over the years 🙏

[@thecatdaddy1981]

In a nutshell, it's been abysmal since the 20 series

[@codyking4253]

​@@thecatdaddy198130 seires

[@roklaca3138]

You mean price/performance degradation

[@592Johno]

​@@thecatdaddy198130 series was good tho

[@Pltr03]

​@@592Johnomspr might have been been good. But unless you had a check out bot the odds of you checking on out was impossible.

[@BeatmasterAC]

Gamers: "Please Remake Killzone 1 to 3. Guerilla: "We got you. Here is Horizon zero dawn Remastered." Gamers: "WTF?"

[@SquidBow]

I would like to see the comparison between original and remastered in a way like, same hardware, but different settings turgeting same performance. So if we take 3060, remastered is promised to get 1080/60 at medium settings, original might get same performance, same hardware, high settings

[@SapiaNt0mata]

dude, what they did is just some tweaks in sharpen and clarity, and toned down yellow and orange colors. nothing changed in performance.

[@SquidBow]

@@SapiaNt0mata The requiements changed... By a lot. I mean going from gtx 1060 to 3060 for recomended is kinda crazy

[@niebuhr6197]

3060 runs original at ultimate quality 80 fps at 1080p. This remaster is as demanding as Forbidden West, so 50s fps maxed out. It's a clear jump.

[@blue_wolf2077]

Hopefully Nixxes can turn into the new Bluepoint, and upgrade some games that need it

[@martindehaij6076]

Bloodborne please 🙏

[@martindehaij6076]

Bloodborne please! 🙏

[@SapiaNt0mata]

Nixxes is owned by Sony. Sony tells Nixxes what to do and they do it. Nixxes don't take decisions by themselves.

[@SapiaNt0mata]

on PC you can achieve this with Reshade. decrease colors like orange and yellow a bit, add luma sharpen and clarity effects to make the image sharper and more clear, and done.

[@dr.sivavignesh664]

You just had to gas light the toxic ps fanboys lol 😂 ( I mean look at the defenders for this in other comments. It's like they have seen a drastic visual upgrade that rivals that of ps2 to ps3 lol )

[@KrisDee1981]

Reshade will improve NPC animations in cutscenes? Swap textures for high res, new water rendering, lighting, etc. I'm a PC gamer first, but all these Reshade kids are really annoying. In most cases they are destroying picture quality by oversharpening, oversaturating colors and they call it Ultra Quality Reshade Preset🤮

[@KrisDee1981]

​@@dr.sivavignesh664. I personally don't care about HZD at this point, so from my perspective Sony is wasting Nixxes time, but If someone really loves this game $10 upgrade is not that bad for what you get.

[@niebuhr6197]

Lighting? The ray tracing plugins for Reshade are already much better than the lighting of this remaster.

[@NotLanny]

Bruh, at least watch the Digital Foundry video.

[@jouniosmala9921]

1650 has features that improve the performance a lot if used. But at the time it came those features were not used in games. And it's the most logical cut off point from software design point. I definitely would like the cut off point around new shader models and effective 16bit support. 16 and 20 series were a feature upgrade generation where it brought many performance improving features that were burried under RTX hype.

[@WiLLiW_oficial]

Yay! Remaster a game 5 yers old! Yay! So much fun! All we need is more remasters! Booo new games!

[@GrySgtBubba]

Right 😂 And a remaster no one was asking for!

[@DingleBerryschnapps]

Not everyone has a short attention span and can only focus on new games. Lots of people play older games still. Many people stay a few years behind so they don't have to constantly upgrade their video cards. 👍

[@DingleBerryschnapps]

​@@GrySgtBubba How do you know what "everyone" wants?

[@Pawnband]

I can't stand playing Wukong anymore, those graphics have aged terribly. I need a remaster.

[@Argoon1981]

Also graphical updates mods, used to be done by moders... for free. Now that is mostly gone and people are sometimes paying full price, for essentially the same game, all because of "better graphics", the AAA gaming industry to me, has lost all its creativity, sad state of affairs.

[@siylencedogood]

I was playing Forbidden West on very high with a 7800x3d + 6800XT Taichi, and on High with an i7-7700k + GTX 1080. No issues and smooth as butter.

[@endritallaqi778]

Will you test the Open Beta of Monster Hunter Wilds next week?

[@CrashD6]

Graphics have plateaued, now we live in the era of "diminishing returns", where games don't look that much better, but run way worse

[@Herr_Affe]

Don't forget how many games have awful color filters on them (or whatever the appropriate term is). You look at a game like Starfield (there are plenty of others, including Cyberpunk 2077), and you think: "Man, this looks off." Then you realize the game looks washed, often with a tint of green or blue. It feels like we're not getting games that look natural anymore. I get that it's an artistic choice, but in my experience, the game looks better without it.

[@PteryxZoroxys314]

They Run worse by design I suspect. It's just a way for them get us to either keep upgrading hardware every year or 2, or get the highest end hardware and sacrifice a kidney. Just look at Monster Hunter Wilds PC specs. They are abysmal!. I didn't spend over $1500 on a PC only to have it run at medium 1080p/30fps. Gaming is becoming unsustainably expensive.

[@SapiaNt0mata]

@@Herr_Affe whatever the term is, Horizon Zero Dawn is also looking awful. too much yellow and orange + it's ridiculously oversaturated. someone cranked the saturation slider to the extreme thinking it would look good. it doesn't.

[@bricaaron3978]

@@Herr_Affe _WHAT?_ C2077 looks washed out??? It better not! I've really, really been looking forward to playing it. I thought the visuals were some of the best to-date. And realistic --- e.g. bright bright areas and dark dark areas.

[@ninja.saywhat]

@@bricaaron3978 if you have the proper rig for it then yes it's worth giving a shot. most of the folks that complain about the "diminishing returns" usually have mid tier pc specs at best or lower then complain "it don't look much better" 😂

[@AkaiSuzume]

I'm so glad that sony saves me money by not selling their games in my region anymore.

[@abdulazimnaushad]

Yk what needs remasters God of War Greek games First 2 Infamous Resistance series Sly Cooper games

[@telesiak2484]

these requirements are perfect. I hope game devs will stick to this. 1 thing would make them even better would be performance on 21:9/32:9 monitors

[@protator]

Aspect ratio doesn't matter, only pixel count. On a 3840x1080 32:9 or 3840x1200 32:10 monitor you can expect similar performance to 1440p 16:9, the amount of pixel on screen is pretty similar and therefore also the system load (+10/+25% pixel vs 1440p, so in this example simply assume you need a card one tier higher than in the chart for @60, and two tiers higher if you want 60 w/o resolution scaling). Same deal with 21:9. Do the math and use your noggin

[@telesiak2484]

@@protator totally not true 21:9 1440p has 35% more pixels than 1440p 16;9 yet costs only 15-20% more performance

[@Rspsand07]

32:9 is quite close to 4k so you can get a rough idea by looking at that. Does it really matter if it's 111 or 117 avg

[@ninja.saywhat]

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[@buttergolem8584]

Something like this should be a free upgrade, like the typical UHD texture Pack released later down the life of a game. A remaster makes sense for very old games, like Xbox 360 era or older. To make them look better and more important, playable on modern systems.

[@Markus-GuerillaGames]

Replaying this on an LG Oled is absolutly gorgeous❤

[@Boba_Fett1980]

this will be perfect for when i get my rx 6800, thanks for the video !

[@SapiaNt0mata]

don't get RX 6800 or any other RX 6000. RX 6000 series don't have AI and early 2025 AMD will release RDNA 4 gpu with AI upscaler and you won't be able to use it. buy an RX 7800 XT instead that has AI and will be able to use it. and at this point i'd say to wait for RX 8000. with RX 6800 you will be 2 gens behind in a few months, and you won't be able to use the AI upscaler. if you don't want to wait for RX 8000, at least get an RX 7800 XT.

[@Boba_Fett1980]

@@SapiaNt0matathe 6000 series can use fsr and also fluid motion frames, idk what you mean in reference to ai upscaling but i dont have the money for a 7800 xt and i found some deals for 300 usd for a 6800, i mostly need the vram coming from the only 8 gb i have currently.

[@SapiaNt0mata]

@@Boba_Fett1980 AMD will release new gpu on early 2025(RX 8000 line) that will use AI upscaling which will be better than current FSR. the RX 6000 don't have AI support so RX 6800 will not have the AI upscaler.

[@Boba_Fett1980]

@@SapiaNt0mata doesn't really matter to me cause fsr is still decent especially 3.1 that's coming out in newer games and it won't be running out of vram in a lot of the games I play like my 3060 ti

[@haytham4837]

Why did this game need a remaster again?. The game looks beautiful to this day.

[@clintl1672]

No, the 3060 wasn't pushing 4k when using DLSS. In fact, it was "only" rendering at 1440p, then upscaled. Since DLSS lowers the advertised res set in the game.

[@r.yildiran]

Some people talk about cdpr gave it to us for free, let me remember why. There was already a mod you can download to make the witcher 3 a next gen game: "the witcher 3 hd reworked project". Cdpr just added some lighting, reflection, dlss3 etc. Anyway, what I want to say about all this talk is this if we pass price situation: Sony says that we are bringing remastered version of game but the system requirements they want for what they call it is crazy. We can get between 40 - 60 fps with 3060 due to dlss in 4k resolution. What do they want a gpu like the 4080 or 7900xt for? It is not a remake just a remastered, oh my gosh this is mindblowing.

[@JeannieLove]

I already like it way better because the lighting is way more natural. I'm so excited to be able to replay it and get the trophies all over again.

[@UrQuietGamer]

Nixxes is on fire lately, they are releasing too many ports back to back😂😂

[@MaxGamingLV]

They made Rost look worse

[@Elgsdyr]

What I'd like to see is a comparison on equal terms. I can run Zero Dawn on maxed out settings, while Forbidden West needed Medium settings (and still had some issues in certain areas). If comparisons are done on e.g. 4090s with maxed out settings on both games, it's hardly equal terms...

[@Skotty64081]

I like the more saturated look of the original as opposed to the more flat looking remaster (subjective, maybe I'm in minority here), but it looks like they improved some textures too, and that is always worthwhile. Might require more VRAM though?

[@grospoulpe951]

Please, Daniel, if you can, it could be interesting to see a review of the game from you, and see if there are some other improvements, besides the textures... Have a nice week-end !! 😊 EDIT : Well, I'd say : 'never mind', because I've juste watched the Digital Foundry review, and the results of the remastered are really great :)

[@davidnzlabour2659]

Great video...not sure I'll getcthe relastered version on PC as the game seems to be too demanding on requirements.

[@moldyshishkabob]

I really appreciate the specs needed for this, even if I think this is following The Last of Us and starting to put us into the "ant death spiral" of remastering/remaking... Unrelated comment below because I don't know how to do a DM on KZbin (although I swear that was a feature 2+ years ago...): With the Monster Hunter Wilds "beta" occurring Oct 31st (8pm EST, if I had to guess based on release time for Monster Hunter World and Monster Hunter Rise content over the years) - Nov 3rd, will there be benchmarks for such? Don't really need an answer, was just hoping this would be seen.

[@danielowentech]

I'd certainly like to cover PC performance if I have enough time during the beta.

[@moldyshishkabob]

@@danielowentech That'd be awesome. I think you were one of the only channels I watch that even noted the concerning specs put out, so I figured you would have noticed. But many thanks! Regardless of if you have time, I'll be certain to try to get info from my friends to gauge what things will look like by the time February rolls around...

[@HanSolo__]

@@danielowentech Neat.

[@JeannieLove]

It's 11pm eastern, 8pm pacific.

[@timmyjohns222]

PS5 should be called PSRemaster!

[@g2fiora]

Guys, yes the game did not *need* a remaster, but it certainly does seem to make good use of it, at least from early reviews. If you don't want to play the remaster then don't, but imo this seems like a great way to future-proof the game a bit more.

[@jdogi1]

Yea. For me, it's a good excuse to do another playthrough, which I already wanted to do. This just adds some newness to it.

[@billions8491]

Hey look, a rational comment *gets angry*

[@stangamer1151]

Agreed. The remaster looks more advanced and thus will preserve the interest in this game for a lot longer period. Plus, it puts the first game in line with the second one visual-wise, which is great. I love when my gaming experience is consistent throughout the whole gaming franchise. And I love the fact that Sony improves their older games, so that they can be in line with the following games in the series.

[@SapiaNt0mata]

future-proof the game? nice joke. you gave me good laughs.

[@dr.sivavignesh664]

@@SapiaNt0mata mgs 4 crying at the corner. Future proof lol. Future proofing recent titles . This released on 2020 for pc. Guess it's too old.

[@ivan134]

Nixxes has been doing PC ports before the PS5 came out. Iirc, they started out doing PC ports for Square Enix games like Tomb Raider and Deus Ex.

[@merion297]

Yes, it needs a remaster because (the primitive grass, Aloy's rubber face, the mid-distant terrain quality) Sony can't sell Horizon 3 enough on PS6 if they must push down in the throats of the millions of newcomer players (just check US's, EU's, China's, Japan's demography data, it's public) a PS4-level Horizon 1. It's Sales. Sony's sales.

[@Melan_B]

As necessary as TLOU 2 remaster.

[@hoylematt1]

I started the game on my PC (3070 gpu) and noticed some stuttering and inconsistent framerates. It hit a breaking point at the end of the first area where I had to turn it down to medium settings and it was still laggy. I swapped over to PS5 and it’s a smooth 60fps and a much better visual experience so far on Performance mode. These PC ports are stressing me out.

[@Asterra2]

Mainly the cost is that modders will probably have to rework the various mods that de-uglify the protagonist.

[@GRIMxREAFER]

After replaying the original days and hours before the remaster it is definitely better looking 👍

[@techfly3]

Nixxes Software is also working on a GOD of war remastered collection that will be focused on the greek sega from what I've heard

[@robynrox]

Don't forget you need to login to a PSN account for the remastered version. That alone is enough to justify not buying the remastered version for me.

[@fffrrraannkk]

There are people in around 170 countries that can't get the upgrade even if they wanted to because of that stupid PSN requirement.

[@Billybobbysuckmyknoby]

What a dumb reason 😂

[@ninja.saywhat]

aww sht it's aloy! 😂

[@MicrobiusBlue]

i see your point ☝️

[@TheEvdiggity]

I wouldn't mind seeing some performance testing for this one I think that would make for a good video. Already having this game on the PS4 I'll probably wait until it's discounted to about $20 or so but I think at that point it should be a good buy and be some good times.

[@JeannieLove]

If you already own it on PS4, you just need to pay 10 bucks to upgrade it.

[@TheEvdiggity]

@@JeannieLove I know but my PC is significantly more powerful than my PS4, and I don't own or plan to get a PS5.

[@arslanmalik151]

This gotta be the first the nixxis port to have issued at launch.

[@kewa_design]

i actually hoped for this remaster, ive bought the pc version when it came out same for forbidden weat this year but didnt played any of them, except for zd but it looks so bad nowadays. Very hyped for the remaster one of my most anticipated games since it got announced

[@MaryannLynch-z9c]

It's somewhat interesting, though HZD is recent enough it's probably not having needed a remaster, this might be good for those who never played the original. Honestly a remaster like this and this recent, looking close enough with the original reminds me of reasons my ex-boyfriend generally disliked remasters of games that were all ready HD to begin with.

[@ts.tanishqsingh]

Hey daniel, I've seen people complaining about performance issues on games with drms like denuvo? Would you mind comparing the perfomance costs of games with and without the drms and why they impact the performance in another video?

[@crispyone2564]

I picked it up for 10 since I have been meaning to go back and finish my playthrough. If I can’t get 200 fps on the new game I’ll just play the old version where I get 300

[@DarkRoboWar]

the game needed a patch to fix anti aliasing, ghosting and shimmering, adding better fsr dlss and disable depth of field option. but it didnt need a remaster (played it recently)

[@flexu1]

horizon zero dawn remastered ??? who asked for this to be made the og pc release is already amazing graphically

[@photonboy999]

I gladly paid the update price already, so I guess me? I was just planning to restart the game, saw the news today and then read information on all the changes they'd made.

[@UrQuietGamer]

Yh but the facial animation is odd in the OG

[@endame90]

NO, you say "considerable upgrades" here at 0:28 I say it's just different, but not better, and if you need to expain how it's better, then it's not worth it.

[@NotLanny]

Bruh just watch the video from Digital Foundry.

[@NotLanny]

Bruh, watch the Digital Foundry video. There are many, way larger improvements than those seen in that one shot.

[@TheDarkKratoz]

I think it's safe to say we didn't need a remaster. I think any PS4 game that received a PS4 Pro patch should not receive a remaster, and that a straight PC port is fine. Doing both is just absurd, and I predict that Sony will see an absolute trickle of purchases for this version of the game.

[@GamingwTallenV]

They also said this was used to give them experience with the engine. Plus usually the “B” team do the remasters.

[@monedg2471]

135 GB JESUS

[@kunka592]

All your SSD are belong to us.

[@bricaaron3978]

Honestly, guys. I've had a 750GB SSD for my OS volume since Feb 2014. I'll have a 2TB SSD for my OS volume soon. And 8TB HDDs have been on sale for as low as $95. There is no reason to complain about game size. It's anti-progress. 135GB is 7.3% of a 2TB volume (Post-formatted size of 1.86TB). In 2007 WoW: Burning Crusade expansion was 15GB, which was 10% of the 160GB HDD that many people had back then (Post-formatted size of 148.8GB). And that was on _top of_ the base WoW installation. In the same year, Crysis was 12GB (8%) and BioShock was 8GB (5.4%). Games take up _the same or less_ percentage of OS volume space than they did 20 yrs ago. If someone is making the mistake of buying a laptop or other mobile device for serious gaming, that's his fault.

[@ninja.saywhat]

@@bricaaron3978why do you still use HDDs for secondary drives in 2024?

[@gameison4813]

That is for installing. It will be below 100 gb after installing, something about 93 or slightly more. Original game states 100gb required and actually takes 72 gb

[@bricaaron3978]

@@ninja.saywhat *"why do you still use HDDs for secondary drives in 2024?"* Because SSD technology is at minimum _4 times_ more expensive per TB than HDD technology, and because the speed and latency of an SSD aren't important for information that is backed up, or otherwise only accessed very infrequently.

[@6FootVampire]

You would look so good in a mullet

[@Mickice]

I think Nixxes want to use Decima Engine to make their own game. This is their training.

[@praphulpokharel8145]

Time to start visiting steamrip again the way things are going

[@keithlewis1739]

Bought this during the summer sale. The wooden character models and line delivery definitely killed the game for me. Haven’t touched the game in like 2 months now. Looking forward to a more “lively” world when I play the remaster. Only $10 so why not

[@BangHJL]

The most important thing about the remaster is the new mocaps for the conversations. You can't tell me with a straight face that those robotic ass animations doesn't look horrible by today standard. Plus it's only $10 and it's by Nixxes. People get outrage by anything these days. 🤷‍♂

[@themachine4008]

Facts.

[@albert2006xp]

Yep, the biggest issue with the old one is the facial animation and reduced textures but just porting everything to Forbidden West levels is definitely welcome and worth a replay.

[@juanblanco7898]

I can. I'd be perfectly content with old school style text dialogues with portraits, tbh. The least important thing to spend up limited resources on, imo. Though I guess the main limitation was PS5's hardware capabilities, so... 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@SapiaNt0mata]

said the shill 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@lebianitadc7572]

​@@juanblanco7898 Bruh

[@sparda9060]

Guerilla games need to do remake of Kill zone games. It kinda needs it.

[@JeffMeyers-zm2lh]

I have found a couple glitchy spots. The cutscene volume is too low, and while facial expressions are way better the lips need to be better. When an npc especially Teersa speaks when she say's a word with b or m the lips don't come together.lip movement is way better today in games compared to 15-20 years ago but it needs that extra bit of developing.

[@crispyone2564]

I am not surprised that the requirements are the same as the new game. It makes total sense

[@mronex4995]

Does anyone agree that this is the best thumbnail he ever used for his videos?

[@dnakatomiuk]

I just bought the upgrade it's a full remaster for £10 if anyone like me who bought a Ryzen CPU or GPU back in 2020 you got the original version for free. So getting this remaster for £10 is a good deal

[@SuperMikeKaos]

Well ivy bridge runs it fine for me on my old dell m6700, though it is with a 980m

[@GhostDust97]

people need to stop complaining about remasters or remakes. there’s a lot of people, like me, who hadn’t played some of these games before so of course i would most definitely rather be able to play it. no i don’t care about paying full price bc i never owned it to begin with. only thing i agree with is that they shouldn’t charge full price for those already owned the game.

[@corey2232]

Remasters & Remakes used to be reserved for games that were multiple generations old, or bringing old SD games into the HD era. Sony has changed that, and now it's OK to remaster 3 year old games that already ran at 4k/60 on PS5, or do a remake of a remaster from just last gen! And all this while constantly iterating on those same games, giving PS4 Pro enhancements, then PS5 enhancements, and soon to be PS5 Pro enhancements! It's absolutely too much at this point! And all the while, they charge $50 or a $10 upgrade, then double the price of the original on PS Store... These games like great already, so now it just feels like they're milking these IPs to death. How many times will people care about the same games? How many times will Sony sell new hardware based on enhancements to these same games? It's frustrating, especially when they've barely provided jack else to play this gen.

[@heyguyslolGAMING]

What I find funny is ppl loosing their sh!t over the account linking security risk. 1. If you are NOT Amish or a Monk and are on the internet your personal info is already available to anyone. 2. If you are NOT Amish or a Monk and are on the internet you are at risk of a security breach. 3. The only real issue w/ the account linking is for peeps that can't use a PSN account from banned countries.

[@wingedhussar1453]

Original looks more like CGI.remaster looks flat

[@zhaf]

The jump from a 3070 to a 4080 is quite massive.

[@DingleBerryschnapps]

This kind of thing makes me laugh. Literally the only game I would care to have this would be MSFS. For the games I play I rarely have time to stare at the pretty graphics. I even lower my settings to high now, even though my computer can handle ultra. It's diminishing returns for the most part.

[@83Bongo]

Proof that they think people are stupid. If you're buying this, you should also buy a crash helmet and wear it permanently.

[@speezbortzappfing3r224]

It's likely that they called for a 4080, due to the v ram needs. Now that the 4070 Ti Super has 16gb, it will likely be sufficient for very High

[@mattalford3932]

My 7950x3d and white strix 4090 won't even break a sweat running this.

[@robertlawrence9000]

I wish they would cut down on the beard on Aloy. 😵‍💫

[@JeannieLove]

It's peach fuzz, everyone has it.

[@robertlawrence9000]

@@JeannieLove Yeah but it's a bit too much in some angles. You can see it on her chin.

[@tryintech839]

PC gamers: "We want Bloodborne on PC!" Sony: "Here's a remaster of an already enhance PC port."

[@MrMarbles]

I was having a excellent day until you mentioned about dynamic resolution.

[@Sadler2010]

GTX 780 has fallen off of Nvidia driver updates not too long ago if memory serves my memory correctly.. That'd be one reason to not include it anymore.

[@0x8badbeef]

Assuming you have the original, when you compare them, does the field of view go as wide as the original. I suspect it might not because their work on Forbidden West does not go as wide as Zero Dawn (which was done by another company) is the reason why i ask. (The console version does not have a FOV setting.) But since this is an upgrade, they might be obligated to preserve the same functionality as the original. Don't know. Please check.

[@adampilewski3969]

Got i7 4790k. Hope it will work perfectly.

[@Windguy5691]

Nix is did a brilliant job on converting games so far. Really the remaster is for those gamers that play HFW at better quality than HZD can achieve. HZD was unbelievable, but when HFW came out, top end PC 4K it was night and day. HZD looks really poor in 4K, whereas 1080p looks great. My biggest issue though, I bought HZD on GOG so I don’t get the $10 upgrade. I have to pay full price if I want it. 🤬

[@joby602]

Really poor in 4K? Can I have some of what you're smoking?

[@Windguy5691]

@@joby602 between HFW and original HZD. Definitely bad. The gap in quality opens up in 4K. Especially on indoor scenes. Don’t get me wrong, still a great game. But being an absolute fan of the Horizon series, I’d love to play right through HZD and then straight into HFW with both DLCs included at the same quality as HFW. HFW is still stylised, but immersion levels will be greater which would really pay off with HZD since it was a decent emotion inducing story with a truly decent climatic ending.

[@FinneyGames_BBG]

We all watch benchmarks all day and know what these cards are relative to: 3070 Ti, 4060 Ti 16GB, 4070, 4070 Super, 4070 Ti, 3080, 3080 Ti, 4070 Ti Super, 3090, and 3090 Ti are all in between! And with DLSS I know some of these will hit 4k 60. And DLSS/FSR/PSSR are a standard! Wow, okay, marketing at its finest. 🤦🏾‍♂️ They very high. (PUFF PUFF 🥴💨 )Listen to me, people with common sense. If I read that I needed to pay at least $800-$1000 to play this game at very high, I would buy the remaster for a PS5 or PS5 Pro. They know you will factor this in, trust me. This is highly questionable at best. I don’t even read these recomendamos as if they’re true, this looks lazy and laughable at best!

[@fried_funk]

I initially thought the remastered was the one on the right....

[@thatoneguy77ish]

Ah Sony... The Disney of video games...

[@paullucci]

Expand on that

[@pravnav]

@@paullucci DEI

[@bigbadslimee]

no that would be nintendo

[@RealMephres]

​@@pravnavbuzzword

[@donsly375]

@@pravnav the day is INVADING MY RECTUM, SAVE ME BRO

[@daveb9402]

I don't know. The RX 6700XT should be more equivalent to a RTX 3070. Not to forget that all those Playstation ports are developed with AMD GPUs in mind. The RX 6800 should be able to beat even a 4070Ti without a sweat.

[@AbhishekG2000]

Now we'll be scared of buying a complete edition of a recent game because the remastered version maybe around the corner lol. What a disaster.

[@Ladioz]

Horizon Zero Dawn is one of the most beautiful games Ive ever played. Never needed a remaster

[@fan_of_mei]

🤝

[@KrisDee1981]

Still looks nice, but water rendering is kinda bad to be honest.

[@Arbancks]

Not even a minute into this video and im 100% positive i could make a better looking product with reshade in 5 mins

[@atchmon902]

it needed a more technical upgrade. Physics don't work with DLSS above 60fps.

[@danielsan9850]

Nixxes knows how to port games to PC