BVR in War Thunder (F-14 v F-16)

[@SeekerHead]

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[@seekerpro486]

Now time for the tornado 💀

[@Forbiddenonii]

I bet he would probably just stay high and hope he doesn't have to dogfight

[@giangi6913]

Love these Growling Sidewinder style of videos, I really enjoy BVR fights and finally seeing in WT brings me joice, keep on going m8 ;)

[@TechnoCNB]

I love this type of GS style video, keep at it

[@dilldoe1991]

DONT SAY THAT

[@SHEEPS_123]

ya he got mad last time

[@TechnoCNB]

@@SHEEPS_123 Yes i watch his videos too yk, that’s the point😊

[@braedynhoward3644]

The way I do BVR in the Tomcat, is I simply bring one or two phoenixes, scan on TWS, find someone who's a bit further from the teammates, and then fire one Poenix, crank a bit, and fire another. Then when they are evading my phoenixes, I push with 7Ms... you do have to be more careful with Mig 29s, but it generally works very well for me. They usually end up slow after having gone defensive against 2 phoenixes and a 7M or 2. Obviously this doesn't work if multiple teammates are near each other pushing you, or If they all fly low... picking targets is also a strategy.

[@tnterror8085]

I’d love to see more of this. Would you consider doing something similar for early jets but dogfight analysis. Cus well, no BVR obviously

[@SeekerHead]

Perhaps, I doubt there's much interest for it though

[@tnterror8085]

@@SeekerHead sad… I really would love to see that but agree with you in that most people prob wouldn’t.

[@Freddepadd]

​@@SeekerHeadi would, awesome vid and cinematics🤟

[@tnterror8085]

@@SeekerHeadI would actually like to see something like this but like rivalry planes, (ex. F16 vs mig 29 dogfight, mig 15 vs f86, f100 vs mig 19, p51 vs bf 109 just to name a few)

[@andrewmeyer169]

@@tnterror8085perfection

[@raphael_banane]

I actually really like it when you are talking and explaining step by step what you are doing, it has helped me really much

[@MagentaFerret]

this video is the perfect example of how mega-gimped phoenix and sparrow missiles are

[@Rayanouse]

The new Growling Seekerhead videos are awesome honestly

[@maksi8964]

amazing video! really liked the cinematic part at the end, thumbs up!

[@alaskanbas6507]

With videos such as this, you're like the Growling Sidewinder of War Thunder, which I find awesome! Just like I enjoy watching GS's , I enjoyed watching this video and I'll enjoy future ones as well, since I subscribed :)

[@eduardocalle240]

I just seen the video and thought exactly the same i wish we could have a game mode 1vs1 or 2vs2 and 4vs4 for this kind of jets to fully get their potential

[@derritter3873]

If the AAM-3 comes to the game, do you think the F-16AJ will have access to them? Ik the EJ Kai definitely carried them, but idk if they would give an almost fully fictional plane them. It would be nice though. Also, bicolor blue is the best livery in game to me.

[@SeekerHead]

AAM-3 is too modern afaik. Would likely be on the F-2 or F15J

[@Sturmtige10]

​@@SeekerHeadlooks like you were right

[@Mikestriken]

Now all you need to do is: 1. Get a flight stick + trackir 2. switch the gamemode to Simulator 3. record the match in tacview (tacview does funnily enough have limited support for war thunder) 4. rebrand the channel to Growling Seekerhead 5. Get some cool animations for the round transition animation 6. Talk about 1 circle, 2 circle And BAM, you're the War Thunder's bootleg Growling Sidewinder CC! LMAO But FR, I do enjoy this new series of content and will be watching them (but I enjoy all your videos so I'd watch them regardless :P)

[@wirelessmouse9579]

Maybe Seek and Growling Sidewinder can do some guest appearance/crossover videos.

[@ardap3966]

The more I watch it the more I realize how this is a carbon copy of GS in WT and im loving it

[@Registered_Simp]

Allot of good from both of you going at it with BVR. Only really have a handful of criticisms for the entire vid. Lee looks like He's ripple firing his Aim-54's at you very close together. While this may increase the PK of the salvo, neither missile is likely to hit. Spacing them out more before notching would make it so that you are too busy defending to re-acquire lock, therefore giving Lee the follow-up advantage. As for you, I was seeing a couple times you were cranking off hard after shooting even when Lee didn't have a solution on you. If it were me, I'd just climb above and press hard if I see no return fire in a few seconds. F-16 does want to get to merge most after all. Staying nose-on also means Lee would have no chance to re-commit and shoot first.

[@cityboy6661]

I’m not sure about them being the same. I’ve noticed that the 7M explodes on a 50/50 chance before target while 7F really doesn’t if at all, as well as the 7M doing weird tracking and just going into the dirt.. nice BVR video though :)

[@FXIIBeaver]

The F-14B is far better due to just the sheer amount of armament and it’s ability to engage from point blank all the way out to 100km.

[@stew-03]

That and no gimped flight model at high speed

[@mikeyplayzwrld]

*Less Gimped@@stew-03

[@mr.secret9812]

0:15 WHAT IS THAT RIGHT THERE WITH 6 GE ????

[@ReepsWasteOfTime]

MIG23 vs F16. What’s the better IR missile slinger

[@SeekerHead]

F16

[@SuperShin21]

i met lee in war thunder last night would just like to say hes a really nice dude

[@braedynhoward3644]

I'm confused... people actually thought the F 14 outdated the F 16? That was never the case.

[@GeneralLee2000]

You should do the F-15 next!!!!

[@lolprobob]

Great piloting today Lee

[@GeneralLee2000]

@@lolprobob o7, appreciate it!

[@zbee-nah-lah]

“That’s definitely not a 9L!” Famous last words

[@ja_05]

Hey Seek early congrats on 20k subs I've loved watching this channel grow from 1k and your videos have worked wonders for my top tier game. Congrats man 🎉

[@SeekerHead]

[@xEroarz]

Awesome video man, I learned a lot and loved the editing! Earned a like and a sub, keep up the awesome work and more of these!! ❤️🙏

[@rippedshirt9272]

I would honestly love to see something with the viggen whether it's the JA37C or JA37D, yeah I know not the best BVR missiles but more of the dogfighting aspect.

[@Bread-zv7ky]

I like seeing these type of videos in the context of WT instead of those weirdos that play WT like its DCS and suck at the game.

[@imainhunter]

tbh, i like the parts when you talk more than the cinematics. no need to "shut up seek" lol

[@theamericancommie727]

Uh…correct me if I’m wrong but that F-16 pulls like absolute shit. Whenever I fly the adf and maybe it’s just the adf, it pulls insane AoA like…no F-14B with flaps will ever float anywhere close behind me. What gives? Edit: and just for the record it rates only a degree slower than a block 10 so the difference wasn’t really there marginally. I still just don’t get wtf is up with the F-16aj in this video because Ik for a fact it pulls harder.

[@brandoncrooks1681]

can anybody tell the difference between seek and joob? They sound like the same person

[@Rageaben]

Can we get a F14B vs F16MLU please

[@what_the_muffin]

4:07 you weren't giving him any lead? of course they wont hit

[@SeekerHead]

That’s the radar lead indicator. with modern jets, you can lock somebody on your radar and it will give you a lead indicating reticle. The reticle i was aiming with was where it was telling me to shoot in order to hit him. (it calculates the lead for you and you just have to pull the trigger) it’s not always very accurate though, as in this example.

[@what_the_muffin]

@@SeekerHead oh wow? thank you so much for telling me

[@the_jingo]

Mig 29 is gonna be a lot better at fighting f14 just because of how good r27er is

[@alessandrocoward1895]

Absolutely brilliant vids

[@budthechud8913]

I'd love to see these but vs Mirage 2000

[@function1296]

lol at watching you get throttled by the f14.

[@bryantbryant4669]

Do a Mig-21 vs F4’s

[@CircuitCatWT]

I would like to see viggen gaming

[@sebulbableves]

If I die consequtively to a radar missile I just say that the missile is smarter than the pilot.

[@antoinevalette2208]

Great vidéo keep doing them

[@Bmoney98]

the mig 29 is the bvr king its r27er's are just super fast and will reach the target by the time they need to start defending god forbid they add the su27 with those things or something better

[@xX_MasterFinn_Xx]

Waiting for F-2...

[@samuelmorton4422]

Would love to see prop planes as well

[@Plugneedsahug]

Does the ge site actually work

[@SeekerHead]

A lot of people don't put the time in required to get large amounts of GE. But getting a little bit- as I said - a premium day- isn't too difficult.

[@tobi2233]

It does but some challenges are literal scams

[@Plugneedsahug]

@@SeekerHead thank I’ve been wondering for a wile

[@limyarplane1991]

sites like that are normally scam's the reason they give you ge is cause they want to spam your email with a bunch of trash mail and you have to watch ad's all day making them more money then they give you. just get a job and work the same amount of time and buy the ge if you want them a ton.

[@spray916]

When using the F-16 why arent you trying to stay around 550-700kmh?? Any slower or faster and the F-16 becomes a brick, but at those speeds it beats pretty much everything.

[@SeekerHead]

Sometimes you always stay at a certain speed, but yes for the most part I did stay above 500

[@spray916]

@@SeekerHead Idk for the last fight you sat around 400 or lower for a while. Good fights ig?

[@SeekerHead]

Generally I always enter slow just to ensure I start behind him/overshoot. These modern jets get speed back so quick and easily it’s not a big deal to get slow

[@noveled_1]

bro is the GS of WT lmao

[@ChildEater84874]

This game seems so fun when KZbinrs play it, but when I play it It's so difficult and boring.

[@Loudward__]

‘I play dcs and actually it’s…’

[@officialgood-boy8946]

I quite like this content, also I'd love to join you in a duel next time you stream, i would have last time but i only get home around 5p Eastern after work.

[@rastaboy_gamesnstuff7778]

Closest I've hit with a sparrow was .67 miles

[@ShaanT31]

Seek i better see the top 5 best/worst war thunder youtuber videos, youve promised it now

[@SeekerHead]

Joob enjoyer

[@jawa011]

None of this makes sense since you are not going 1 vs 1 in matches... you would be dead each time using these tactics... F-14 can get you any way possible, speed, number of armament, and even turn... What i usually do is hit the deck and surprise them with sparrows from below, also i never fire mine until i get to 16km away from the target.

[@wirelessmouse9579]

Every battle in War Thunder eventually becomes a 1 vs 1+.

[@brandoncrooks1681]

14:30 keep the commentary

[@SeekerHead]

zamn, okay

[@ericwest128]

Chaff don't work for chit

[@caesarsspirit]

Its actuallt Block 40

[@SeekerHead]

no it isn’t, because it doesn’t exist.

[@johncortez8437]

Gotta get a competent f14 player for these to be good

[@SeekerHead]

Would you like to be the next F14 player?

[@norske_ow3440]

Lmao… yea… that was a VERY competent f14 pilot!

[@norske_ow3440]

@@SeekerHeadnext vid: f14’s GeneralLee vs johncortez? lol

[@REEZY664]

6 ge fore only fans whhhhhat whaaaaaaaaaaaaat

[@ATagOperator]

Bro do j8f vs f16A netz

[@SeekerHead]

No contest 😂

[@ATagOperator]

​@@SeekerHeadOk it's up to you bro but am looking forward to a j8f bvr vid

[@SeekerHead]

@@ATagOperatorThe J8F doesn’t have BVR missiles though? I can try to put it up against something but it’d probably be more fair going against something like a 21bis or viggen or something idk

[@ATagOperator]

@@SeekerHead noted ty bro

[@Xackory]

Any f16aj pilot that knows what they're doing is always going to win again the f14

[@SHEEPS_123]

people keep say that the mig29 and f16 are better than the f14b in a dogfight but defyn demonstrated that the f14 if flown correctly will beat both

[@SeekerHead]

“we didn’t test these planes too extensively - DEFYN. Also i only see him against 1 of his friends. Myself and others who I also trust as reputable sources have different results. The f14 CAN win, but only if the 29 or 16 play into its game. The 16 and 29 have the option of simply refusing to do so, whereas the 14 can’t do the same. It’s at the mercy of the other 2.

[@SHEEPS_123]

@@SeekerHead seek i love your content your great at WT...... but defyn is the best, what im trying to say is that fighting the f14b in the f16/mig29 is won by the f14 making a mistake

[@SeekerHead]

DEFYN is fantastic I agree, but there is more to it than just a favorite youtuber. His partner, (Mackerel) is not quite as good as he is, which I believe contributes to misleading results. I think if they switched off it would've been a better demonstration, but as he said, he was more so just playing around with them and wasnt there to do extensive testing.

[@SHEEPS_123]

@@SeekerHead fair enough, btw i didn't say favorite youtuber i said best at wt planes. i enjoy your content just as much (: but speaking of defyn when is this collab gonna happen

[@Xackory]

@@SHEEPS_123yeah no in air rb f14 is obsoutle when you can stay low and Dodge their missiles

[@babypluto3679]

Seek

[@Joelovemepleasse]

When did he change his name?

[@Bl1nkzYT]

First

[@irkiIIer]

youre a millenial