Can You Lose Your Salvation?

It seems like there are a lot of questions about Christianity we’re not supposed to ask-at least not in church. Author, pastor, and talk-show host, Dr. Andrew Farley is here to answer some tough biblical questions. He grounds his answers in Scripture and offers a radical new outlook on the nature of God and His boundless love for you. And there's one issue we differ on, too, which creates (hopefully) an helpful dialogue.
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[@becajo06]

Tears are streaming down my face hearing Dr. Farley lay out the Goodness, Faithfulness, Grace, and Mercy of God through Jesus so succinctly. What a beautiful reminder! Thank you for this Q&A!

[@Antonio.R.O.C.]

🕊️Requirements in order to reach salvation directly by Jesus ⬇️ 🕊️“Wake up! Strengthen what little remains, for even what is left is almost dead. I find that your actions do not meet the requirements of my God.”Revelation 3:2 📖Luke’s Gospel⬇️ 🕊️“But Jesus told him, “Anyone who puts a hand to the plow and then looks back is not fit for the Kingdom of God.” Luke 9:62 🕊️“No, and I tell you again that unless you repent, you will perish, too.” Luke 13:5 📖John’s Gospel⬇️ 🕊️“Jesus replied, “I assure you, no one can enter the Kingdom of God without being born of water and the Spirit. Humans can reproduce only human life, but the Holy Spirit gives birth to spiritual life. So don’t be surprised when I say, ‘You must be born again.” John 3:5-7 🕊️“So Jesus said again, “I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you cannot have eternal life within you. But anyone who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise that person at the last day.” John 6:53-54 🕊️“Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.” John 14:6 📖Matthew’s Gospel⬇️ 🕊️“But I warn you-unless your righteousness is better than the righteousness of the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees, you will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven!” Matthew 5:20 🕊️“But I say, if you are even angry with someone, you are subject to judgment! If you call someone an idiot, you are in danger of being brought before the court. And if you curse someone, you are in danger of the fires of hell.” Matthew 5:22 🕊️“But if you refuse to forgive others, your Father will not forgive your sins.” Matthew 6:15 🕊️“So every tree that does not produce good fruit is chopped down and thrown into the fire.” Matthew 7:19 🕊️“But everyone who denies me here on earth, I will also deny before my Father in heaven.”Matthew 10:33 🕊️“If you love your father or mother more than you love me, you are not worthy of being mine; or if you love your son or daughter more than me, you are not worthy of being mine. If you refuse to take up your cross and follow me, you are not worthy of being mine. If you cling to your life, you will lose it; but if you give up your life for me, you will find it.” Matthew 10:37-39 🕊️“So I tell you, every sin and blasphemy can be forgiven-except blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, which will never be forgiven.” Matthew 12:31 🕊️“The words you say will either acquit you or condemn you.” Matthew 12:37 🕊️“Just as the weeds are sorted out and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the world. The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will remove from his Kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. And the angels will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” Matthew 13:40-42 🕊️“Jesus called a little child to him and put the child among them. Then he said, “I tell you the truth, unless you turn from your sins and become like little children, you will never get into the Kingdom of Heaven.” Matthew 18:2-3 🕊️“Then Jesus said to his disciples, “I tell you the truth, it is very hard for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.” Matthew 19:23 Jesus made it perfectly clear to all who would accept his words⬇️ 🕊️”Then the King will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, O blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me.’ Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ Then he will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me.’ And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” Matthew 25:34-46 After reviewing Jesus’ own words, are you truly his disciple❓ 🕊️“Jesus then said to the Jews who had believed in him, “If you continue in my word, you are truly my disciples,” John 8:31 Jesus also made it perfectly clear for those who would disagree with his words⬇️ 🕊️“But Jesus answered them, “You are wrong, because you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God.” Matthew 22:29 🚨My question to these lukewarm Christians is simple, was Jesus lying⁉️ 🕊️”Let what you say be simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything more than this comes from the Evil One.” Matthew 5:37

[@donnac2122]

Thank you Sean for having Pastor Andrew on your show. I have been listening to his radio show and sermons using the Bible questions site as well.

[@SeanMcDowell]

You bet, glad to hear!

[@lilywhite]

I agree! People don’t understand how merciful He really is

[@adamruuth5562]

A truly merciful and loving god would not allow anyone to go to hell.

[@humejephcott4543]

I think with the 3rd question of once saved always saved you have not adequately addressed the very real and increasingly frequent issue of people ceasing to believe in God and Christ and of ceasing to trust in any saving work of Christ upon the cross and in his resurrection from the dead. I think you have been very selective in the references you chose to support your case. You did not deal with the prophecy of Jesus that the love of many would grow cold, with the repeated clear warnings in the letter to the Hebrews, or with Paul's own heartbreaking experience of former colleagues abandoning the faith.

[@JesusSavesSinners]

I Do Not think You Even Watched this Video because the 3rd Point OSAS was Covered the Best in this Video of ALL the Points Covered. None of the Bible Verses You are Using Says You can Lose Your Salvation. The Bible Does Not Teach You can Lose Your Salvation. You are Trying to Work Your Way to Heaven. Here Let me Help You Out: Salvation is Eternal Life this is what the Bible teaches. Eternal Never Ends. You cannot Lose Something You Did Not Work for in the First Place. Salvation is 100% Jesus. Sadly there are Millions and Millions of Lost people claiming to be Saved, to be Christians who spread False Doctrines. One of the popular False Doctrines they spread is that Jesus does not Eternally Save. They mock Christians that Believe the Bible that Believe Jesus when he says that he Gives Eternal Life. OSAS = Once Saved Always Saved. These Lost people are actively spreading Lies and pushing people into Hell. Read and study the Bible so you will not be deceived into believing False Doctrines, False Gospel's. A person who thinks they can lose their Salvation is not Saved because they are working their way to Heaven. Salvation is 100% Jesus 0% human effort. You did nothing to get Saved, and to say you have to do something to stay Saved is not Biblical. ETERNAL Means never Ending. Jesus Saves Eternally. Romans 6:23 “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” John 17:3 “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.” Matthew 25:46 “And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.” John 5:24 “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.” John 3:36 “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.” No the Bible does not teach that a person can lose their Salvation. You are trying to Work your way to Heaven. Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. Hebrews 6 does not teach a Saved person can lose their Salvation. It is saying what many other Scriptures says that Jesus died once for all of the Sins of the World, that it is impossible for Jesus to die again for the Sins of the World. Jesus already paid for all the Sins of the World. Hebrews 9:24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us: 25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others; 26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. 27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: 28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. 1 Peter 3:18 “For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:” 1 John 2:2 “And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.” John 1:29 “The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.” A person who thinks they can lose their Salvation is not Saved because they are working their way to Heaven. Salvation is 100% Jesus 0% human effort. You did nothing to get Saved, and to say you have to do something to stay Saved is not Biblical. ETERNAL Means never Ending. Jesus Saves Eternally. Romans 6:23 “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” John 17:3 “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.” Matthew 25:46 “And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.” John 5:24 “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.” John 3:36 “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.”

[@aussierob7177]

Once you accept OSAS it is very difficult to change your mind, even with all the Scripture that denies it.

[@jenniferwalsh1731]

The more I believe that it’s faith alone, I can’t lose it, it’s all done, the holier and holier I get. Because it’s all His work! How amazing! Praise the Lord!❤

[@ThroughBiblicalLenses]

Those never 'knew Him'. They were never saved.

[@humejephcott4543]

@@ThroughBiblicalLenses Who told you this? How do you know and how can you assert this with such assurance?

[@Terri-e7]

This was excellent. I love how Paul shares the gospel with unbelievers in Acts 17:22-32.

[@Havoc2317]

Words are a result of faith. What you believe comes out in what you do, and what you do demonstrates what you believe.

[@tompeers53]

The same chapter, Hebrews 10, that says “For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified,” also says “Let’s hold firmly to the confession of our hope without wavering,” and “For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a terrifying expectation of judgment and THE FURY OF A FIRE WHICH WILL CONSUME THE ADVERSARIES.” This shows that it’s possible for someone who once enjoyed a relationship with Christ to not maintain a confession of faith in Him or one who persists in a lifestyle of sin the result of which is a terrifying expectation of judgment and fire. Let’s not take one verse out of Hebrews 10 at the exclusion of the others.

[@theouterplanet]

We all sin willfully all the time.

[@Ant794]

What sin isn’t willfully committed?

[@annmarshall1126]

Thankyou for posting this.I needed to hear it!

[@ndih1991]

Thank you for this session 🙏

[@shaunclarkson7131]

All the best questions being asked here. This was an excellent interview.

[@DanielRyanScott]

Faith brings about works. I do believe they go hand in hand and its not one or the other. And its the small works that are noticed. Honesty, kindness, love, mercy, ect. All things that are free and available to all to utilize.

[@phloriaernas2149]

Thanks for the sharing. God bless you both Pastor Andrew and Sean!

[@JonClash]

Been enjoying some of Andrew’s content lately. Read two of his books. Great seeing him on here!

[@jimfarnell5813]

In response to question #3… That which cannot be gained by moral perfection cannot be lost by moral imperfection- Michael Heiser… Consider Romans 5:6-8 & 1 John 2:19…

[@Antonio.R.O.C.]

🕊️Requirements in order to reach salvation directly by Jesus ⬇️ 🕊️“Wake up! Strengthen what little remains, for even what is left is almost dead. I find that your actions do not meet the requirements of my God.”Revelation 3:2 📖Luke’s Gospel⬇️ 🕊️“But Jesus told him, “Anyone who puts a hand to the plow and then looks back is not fit for the Kingdom of God.” Luke 9:62 🕊️“No, and I tell you again that unless you repent, you will perish, too.” Luke 13:5 📖John’s Gospel⬇️ 🕊️“Jesus replied, “I assure you, no one can enter the Kingdom of God without being born of water and the Spirit. Humans can reproduce only human life, but the Holy Spirit gives birth to spiritual life. So don’t be surprised when I say, ‘You must be born again.” John 3:5-7 🕊️“So Jesus said again, “I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you cannot have eternal life within you. But anyone who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise that person at the last day.” John 6:53-54 🕊️“Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.” John 14:6 📖Matthew’s Gospel⬇️ 🕊️“But I warn you-unless your righteousness is better than the righteousness of the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees, you will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven!” Matthew 5:20 🕊️“But I say, if you are even angry with someone, you are subject to judgment! If you call someone an idiot, you are in danger of being brought before the court. And if you curse someone, you are in danger of the fires of hell.” Matthew 5:22 🕊️“But if you refuse to forgive others, your Father will not forgive your sins.” Matthew 6:15 🕊️“So every tree that does not produce good fruit is chopped down and thrown into the fire.” Matthew 7:19 🕊️“But everyone who denies me here on earth, I will also deny before my Father in heaven.”Matthew 10:33 🕊️“If you love your father or mother more than you love me, you are not worthy of being mine; or if you love your son or daughter more than me, you are not worthy of being mine. If you refuse to take up your cross and follow me, you are not worthy of being mine. If you cling to your life, you will lose it; but if you give up your life for me, you will find it.” Matthew 10:37-39 🕊️“So I tell you, every sin and blasphemy can be forgiven-except blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, which will never be forgiven.” Matthew 12:31 🕊️“The words you say will either acquit you or condemn you.” Matthew 12:37 🕊️“Just as the weeds are sorted out and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the world. The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will remove from his Kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. And the angels will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” Matthew 13:40-42 🕊️“Jesus called a little child to him and put the child among them. Then he said, “I tell you the truth, unless you turn from your sins and become like little children, you will never get into the Kingdom of Heaven.” Matthew 18:2-3 🕊️“Then Jesus said to his disciples, “I tell you the truth, it is very hard for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.” Matthew 19:23 Jesus made it perfectly clear to all who would accept his words⬇️ 🕊️”Then the King will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, O blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me.’ Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ Then he will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me.’ And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” Matthew 25:34-46 After reviewing Jesus’ own words, are you truly his disciple❓ 🕊️“Jesus then said to the Jews who had believed in him, “If you continue in my word, you are truly my disciples,” John 8:31 Jesus also made it perfectly clear for those who would disagree with his words⬇️ 🕊️“But Jesus answered them, “You are wrong, because you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God.” Matthew 22:29 🚨My question to these lukewarm Christians is simple, was Jesus lying⁉️ 🕊️”Let what you say be simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything more than this comes from the Evil One.” Matthew 5:37

[@stephenvos2380]

Thx Andy. You make soooo clear to understand. Ty Sean for having talk on your show

[@SeanMcDowell]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Dr_Rod]

Many of Dr. Farley’s comments are extremely simplistic and one sided. I will respond to only 2 points: 1) he attempts to reconcile James and Paul on faith and works. In Farley’s view works are valid because the Gospel requires a response. I would suggest that much more is implied by the connection of faith and works. James is dealing essentially with the issue of antinomianism; that faith is void of works. Instead of separating faith and works James says that biblical faith actually works; that it by its essential nature works in an active way. I once heard a Baptist minister state that it is faith plus nothing that saves. The implication of his statement is that there is no necessary connection between faith and works. Biblically, however, there is an absolute connection as faith will always express itself in works. Works are the essential evidence of faith. Paul speaks of being saved only by faith, not of works. Paul is essentially speaking of a different context in which works are based solely in one’s self which are not an expression or work of faith. The source of the works is the essential issue. If not based in faith, works can never save. However, while our works do not save us, if there are no works then we do not have saving faith. 2) Farley somewhat dismisses any Arminian perspective that it is possible to lose one’s salvation. He certainly takes the high intellectual ground in his justification for his conclusion that a believer can’t lose their salvation. I will not go into length here but Farley doesn’t even look at a single passage which may suggest that salvation can be lost or forfeited. It would seem that to be consistent if one can freely choose salvation they can also freely reject it. At least the hyper Calvinist is consistent as all are chosen and therefore don’t really have freedom to either choose or reject salvation. I think Sean you shouldn’t just bring on a self proclaimed expert who pushes only one view and who doesn’t fairly present alternative biblical perspectives. What you have done Sean is to present in a rather smug way what a truly biblical perspective is. I didn’t agree with much of what Farley was saying. Disappointing, I think.

[@jay1871]

Although I like Dr. Farley and think he would answer more thoroughly with more time, but his baptism answer was not sufficient. Paul “not baptizing” is not the same as baptism not required. Saying “I did not come to baptize” does not nullify baptism. I agree with him theologically but I think it’s a bad argument.

[@snoopycharlie8718]

9:11 great Q and answer

[@jeffb6979]

That was an amazing answer!! I needed to hear that.

[@rickjelley6347]

With respect to whether you can lose your salvation, the question comes down to: can a person ONCE believe with saving faith and THEN AT SOME POINT LATER not believe...? Because if that is possible, then you are faced with: is a person still saved even if they no longer are putting faith in Christ? Are they saved even if they reject and renounce him, and are self proclaimed atheists or now worship a different god? A muslim, for example, could renounce Islam and become a christian. Is it possible a christian could do the same? And is he still saved even if he now worships someone other than Yahweh? If someone does not address those questions, I don't see how they are really engaging the question in a way that would resolve anything.

[@lionheartmerrill1069]

I'm shocked they didn't bring up Hebrews 6:4,5,6 KJV. I have tried to help 2 former 20 year Baptist women with Utube channels. 1 is now an agnostic atheist who helps Christians deconstruct from Christianity. The other converted to Islam & now dumps on the Bible, God, Jesus, etc. I have given them Hebrews 6 & asked if they ever really accepted Jesus as Lord? No answer.

[@rickjelley6347]

@@lionheartmerrill1069 I personally avoid using scriptures with debated interpretations (like Heb. 6) when trying to arrive at a conclusion to something like 'can a person lose their salvation'. I try to establish that on clearly understood verses, which I think a person can do if they are not committed to an answer before they start looking.

[@lionheartmerrill1069]

@@rickjelley6347 I concur

[@shaunclarkson7131]

@@lionheartmerrill1069 "Not everyone who cries lord lord", and "I never knew you" very likely means if they are "former 20 Baptists", its more likely they fall into the "never knew you" category and they never knew Jesus despite attending Church for two decades. That or they are astray and sinning, and Jesus is going to give them a rather uncomfortable for them life review when they leave this world.

[@lionheartmerrill1069]

@@shaunclarkson7131 Right, or maybe something traumatic happened while they were Baptists? My Pastor says that people with a mental illness such as bipolar might experience spiritual battles. I asked the agnostic atheist if she was bipolar, no answer. She took 6 months off, came back after people were asking her if she converted back to Christianity. She said NO, but found out she has PTSD, CPTSD & ADHD. She continues to help Christians deconstruct from Christianity. I pray for both of them.

[@nathanleameister7179]

God alone saves us...when we respond through baptism.

[@pamelabrown7772]

GOD saves when we repent & receive his gift of Grace

[@ryankelly9032]

The theif on the cross wasn’t baptized.

[@jenniferwalsh1731]

It’s grace through faith alone in Christ

[@Antonio.R.O.C.]

🕊️Requirements in order to reach salvation directly by Jesus ⬇️ 🕊️“Wake up! Strengthen what little remains, for even what is left is almost dead. I find that your actions do not meet the requirements of my God.”Revelation 3:2 📖Luke’s Gospel⬇️ 🕊️“But Jesus told him, “Anyone who puts a hand to the plow and then looks back is not fit for the Kingdom of God.” Luke 9:62 🕊️“No, and I tell you again that unless you repent, you will perish, too.” Luke 13:5 📖John’s Gospel⬇️ 🕊️“Jesus replied, “I assure you, no one can enter the Kingdom of God without being born of water and the Spirit. Humans can reproduce only human life, but the Holy Spirit gives birth to spiritual life. So don’t be surprised when I say, ‘You must be born again.” John 3:5-7 🕊️“So Jesus said again, “I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you cannot have eternal life within you. But anyone who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise that person at the last day.” John 6:53-54 🕊️“Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.” John 14:6 📖Matthew’s Gospel⬇️ 🕊️“But I warn you-unless your righteousness is better than the righteousness of the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees, you will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven!” Matthew 5:20 🕊️“But I say, if you are even angry with someone, you are subject to judgment! If you call someone an idiot, you are in danger of being brought before the court. And if you curse someone, you are in danger of the fires of hell.” Matthew 5:22 🕊️“But if you refuse to forgive others, your Father will not forgive your sins.” Matthew 6:15 🕊️“So every tree that does not produce good fruit is chopped down and thrown into the fire.” Matthew 7:19 🕊️“But everyone who denies me here on earth, I will also deny before my Father in heaven.”Matthew 10:33 🕊️“If you love your father or mother more than you love me, you are not worthy of being mine; or if you love your son or daughter more than me, you are not worthy of being mine. If you refuse to take up your cross and follow me, you are not worthy of being mine. If you cling to your life, you will lose it; but if you give up your life for me, you will find it.” Matthew 10:37-39 🕊️“So I tell you, every sin and blasphemy can be forgiven-except blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, which will never be forgiven.” Matthew 12:31 🕊️“The words you say will either acquit you or condemn you.” Matthew 12:37 🕊️“Just as the weeds are sorted out and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the world. The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will remove from his Kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. And the angels will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” Matthew 13:40-42 🕊️“Jesus called a little child to him and put the child among them. Then he said, “I tell you the truth, unless you turn from your sins and become like little children, you will never get into the Kingdom of Heaven.” Matthew 18:2-3 🕊️“Then Jesus said to his disciples, “I tell you the truth, it is very hard for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.” Matthew 19:23 Jesus made it perfectly clear to all who would accept his words⬇️ 🕊️”Then the King will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, O blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me.’ Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ Then he will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me.’ And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” Matthew 25:34-46 After reviewing Jesus’ own words, are you truly his disciple❓ 🕊️“Jesus then said to the Jews who had believed in him, “If you continue in my word, you are truly my disciples,” John 8:31 Jesus also made it perfectly clear for those who would disagree with his words⬇️ 🕊️“But Jesus answered them, “You are wrong, because you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God.” Matthew 22:29 🚨My question to these lukewarm Christians is simple, was Jesus lying⁉️ 🕊️”Let what you say be simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything more than this comes from the Evil One.” Matthew 5:37

[@OliverGrace7]

It's basically a faith vs works argument. We follow Christ and His teachings because we love Him you can go days without smoking drinking having promiscuous sex and feel justified and proud because you've not done things God deemed evil but you aren't justified to God by doing those things rather you have trust in Him and love for His grace and what He did for you on the Cross dieing for yours evils against God which was the death you were supposed to suffer for your sins. He was innocent and suffered an evil death but rose on the third day defeating sin death and Satan. It's a gift of love we all have to accept and cherish and it's going to be a endless war against our sin within our nature don't get discouraged always think about and rely what He did for you on the Cross.

[@Antonio.R.O.C.]

🕊️Requirements in order to reach salvation directly by Jesus ⬇️ 🕊️“Wake up! Strengthen what little remains, for even what is left is almost dead. I find that your actions do not meet the requirements of my God.”Revelation 3:2 📖Luke’s Gospel⬇️ 🕊️“But Jesus told him, “Anyone who puts a hand to the plow and then looks back is not fit for the Kingdom of God.” Luke 9:62 🕊️“No, and I tell you again that unless you repent, you will perish, too.” Luke 13:5 📖John’s Gospel⬇️ 🕊️“Jesus replied, “I assure you, no one can enter the Kingdom of God without being born of water and the Spirit. Humans can reproduce only human life, but the Holy Spirit gives birth to spiritual life. So don’t be surprised when I say, ‘You must be born again.” John 3:5-7 🕊️“So Jesus said again, “I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you cannot have eternal life within you. But anyone who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise that person at the last day.” John 6:53-54 🕊️“Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.” John 14:6 📖Matthew’s Gospel⬇️ 🕊️“But I warn you-unless your righteousness is better than the righteousness of the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees, you will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven!” Matthew 5:20 🕊️“But I say, if you are even angry with someone, you are subject to judgment! If you call someone an idiot, you are in danger of being brought before the court. And if you curse someone, you are in danger of the fires of hell.” Matthew 5:22 🕊️“But if you refuse to forgive others, your Father will not forgive your sins.” Matthew 6:15 🕊️“So every tree that does not produce good fruit is chopped down and thrown into the fire.” Matthew 7:19 🕊️“But everyone who denies me here on earth, I will also deny before my Father in heaven.”Matthew 10:33 🕊️“If you love your father or mother more than you love me, you are not worthy of being mine; or if you love your son or daughter more than me, you are not worthy of being mine. If you refuse to take up your cross and follow me, you are not worthy of being mine. If you cling to your life, you will lose it; but if you give up your life for me, you will find it.” Matthew 10:37-39 🕊️“So I tell you, every sin and blasphemy can be forgiven-except blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, which will never be forgiven.” Matthew 12:31 🕊️“The words you say will either acquit you or condemn you.” Matthew 12:37 🕊️“Just as the weeds are sorted out and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the world. The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will remove from his Kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. And the angels will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” Matthew 13:40-42 🕊️“Jesus called a little child to him and put the child among them. Then he said, “I tell you the truth, unless you turn from your sins and become like little children, you will never get into the Kingdom of Heaven.” Matthew 18:2-3 🕊️“Then Jesus said to his disciples, “I tell you the truth, it is very hard for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.” Matthew 19:23 Jesus made it perfectly clear to all who would accept his words⬇️ 🕊️”Then the King will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, O blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me.’ Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ Then he will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me.’ And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” Matthew 25:34-46 After reviewing Jesus’ own words, are you truly his disciple❓ 🕊️“Jesus then said to the Jews who had believed in him, “If you continue in my word, you are truly my disciples,” John 8:31 Jesus also made it perfectly clear for those who would disagree with his words⬇️ 🕊️“But Jesus answered them, “You are wrong, because you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God.” Matthew 22:29 🚨My question to these lukewarm Christians is simple, was Jesus lying⁉️ 🕊️”Let what you say be simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything more than this comes from the Evil One.” Matthew 5:37

[@logan666]

The real question is: why did Jesus get baptized? If Paul was right it would be to cleanse his sins, but if Jesus was right it may have been either to set an example, or just because he didn’t actually claim to be a sinless son of god.

[@MRlatsinos]

The bible reads he was baptised in order to 'fulfill all righteousness'. He lived and fulfilled all righteousness so that we could be justified by faith - believing that his righteousness allowed him to be punished for our sins, as he had none of own to be condemned for. He fulfilled all righteousness, so that we wouldn't have to. Being water baptised is a righteous work, as evidenced by Jesus' need to fulfill it on behalf of those who do not get water baptised but have faith, such as the thief on the cross beside him.

[@yvonnecrozier4536]

Amen amen amen

[@juanmilian4207]

Didn't Jesus, after his resurrection, tell the disciples to make disciples by baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit...Mt. 28:1....

[@-Pierre]

I do not share the same opinion as Mr. Farley, he is saying that basically baptism is not required, but if we follow Jesus words, He has told us in John 3:5 that we have to be *born of water* and spirit to enter the Kingdom of God, so when Mr. Farley is saying that "water has never saved anybody" 1:58 it's the opposite of what Jesus told us in John 3:5, remember the Bible also told us to not trust someone else beliefs, but to be careful to not be deceived by any false doctrine, i will trust Jesus Words. *John 3:5* 5 *Jesus answered,* “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.

[@JohnRenshawIII]

No way I love dr Farley

[@TheAbstract33]

Farley’s answer of not running to our favorite pet verse to build a doctrine while ignoring others that say differently is interesting to me because he seems to ignore several other, much more explanatory passages about baptism and its role in the believers salvation (Acts 19, 1 Peter 3, Col 2, Gal 3, Rom 6, etc) and of course Jesus’ own command to baptize believers in his name should make us at least understand it is not optional and not simply a “birthday party”. Furthermore, every NT example of a believer coming to Christ, is baptized immediately after. Baptismal water is not magic and does not provide salvation anymore than taking a bath does. It is an act done in faith where we undergo a spiritual birth and that is the mechanism God provided for us. Salvation always belongs to the Lord and baptism is the commanded path where we connect with Christ’s blood, death, and resurrection. If it were of no value, why do we not have one NT author denouncing it of no value like circumcision, food choices, and certain festivals. I’m willing to believe I may be wrong about my position on this topic and pray that God is gracious to those who’ve not experienced baptism in Christ and will still save them, like the thief on the cross. Ultimately, God is just and will do what is right.

[@shahidmiah917]

Why did none of the other previous figures in the Bible teach Trinity? Eg Moses, Abraham, Isaac, Ismael, David, Solomon etc Why does the Old Testament teach 1 God but the New Testament teaches 3 Gods? Someone is clearly lying quite openly and I can’t help but be bemused how Christians don’t notice that.

[@juanmilian4207]

Oops...Rm 6:3-4 also...how do I participate in the burial of Christ?

[@Ordinal_Yoda]

Since the Lord represents "The Event". Stopping your own plan when "The plan of Love comes". Does this very thing. Example: A man sits and plays his guitar. The wife enters saying, "We need "bread" from the store". Blessed is the man who lays down His guitar and get the bread. Woe at the man who continues in his own way, later forgets, and needs make amends by sacrifice.

[@tliau]

The answers to questions are great! I only disagree about 1 thing. Acts 2:38 is referring to the baptism of the Holy Spirit and not water baptism. Having said that, one do not need to be baptized in either water or the Holy Spirit in order to be saved. Baptism of water is an outward declaration of our faith and baptism of the Holy Spirit is for the receiving of the gifts of the Spirit such as speaking in tongues.

[@PetrosSharp]

1 P 1:5 "who by God's power are being guarded through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time." We are guarded not by our own skill but by God's power. Jude 1:24 "Now to him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you blameless before the presence of his glory with great joy, 25 to the only God, our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority, before all time[h] and now and forever. Amen." We are guarded by God from stumbling. He is able to present us blameless before the presence of his glory. 😊😊😊👆

[@TheologyNerd777]

This was literally "Baptist" theology 101. I would encourage others to actually study and learn the historical interpretation of these Scriptures and the doctrines of the church for 2000 years. Don't let the ahistorical and novel interpretations of a group of people that are only a few hundred years old mislead you. These were not even widely held views during the Reformation, let alone among the earliest Christians. To tell people that they don't need to be baptized, obey Christ's commandments (works), and that they are once saved, always saved despite how they live their life is insane. It is possibly damaging to their souls and their eternal destination. These teachers will have to give an account to the Lord one day for the abberant things they have taught and the false assurances they have given to others.

[@caedmonstudios]

The book of Leviticus goes into excruciating detail about the sacred holiness of God. Nobody is even remotely worthy to enter into His presence. The book of Isaiah mentions that even our righteous deeds are like dirty, bloody rags. Tell me, how righteous have you become that you have earned your place before God? How righteous are you that you maintain your own right standing on holy ground? Because, clearly you have earned it and could perhaps intercede for a lowly sinner like myself.

[@rickjelley6347]

​@@caedmonstudios I think you might be confusing the topic 'can a person earn their salvation' with the topic 'can a person lose their salvation'. A person might believe you can lose it and not at all think it is maintained by works or effort.

[@mattr.1887]

You can use the Bible to justify multiple views. At the end of the day, the "truth" really seems to just depend on what the Christian you're talking to feels is true.

[@TheologyNerd777]

@mattr.1887 People have always used their own interpretations of Scripture to defend their heresies for all of church history. That's why they need to be studying church history and reading the early church fathers and Councils to discover the doctrines that have been taught and heresies rebutted since the beginning, and not rely on their own novel interpretations.

[@oadefisayo]

So, yes, we can say baptism doesn't save. But if Christ commanded it then why shouldn't we do it? If we have the opportunity to be baptized, why wouldn't one want to be baptized?

[@adamruuth5562]

Would Jesus want a Christian to sell his stuff and give the money to the poor? Why wouldn't believers do that? Because they have a rationalisation. THAT is why Christians don't do what Jesus commands.

[@caedmonstudios]

You can have eternal life by faith and still be commanded to do certain things. I love my children and direct them in all sorts of ways. But, those directions are for their own good, not to maintain their position in the family.

[@JRTIGER07]

So the Great Commission doesn't apply you think 🤔 *Matthew 28:18-20* 🤔

[@VickersJon]

Jesus had not instituted baptism prior to the thief on the cross’s death.

[@SebastianOsborn]

I've always believed in once saved always saved, but I'd like if Dr. Andrew could go through some of the scriptures that seem to indicate you can lose your salvation and how to best navigate through those passages. The problem is, once saved always saved gets a bad reputation, as it seems to some people that it's an excuse to sin because you're saved no matter how you live your life. But let me tell you something, that's human reasoning. Just because someone can take advantage of something doesn't mean it's not true. You really think God would forbid something just because we could take advantage of it and take it for granted? It's not okay to take advantage of it, but that doesn't make it false. Remember, the Bible says each will be judged according to what they have done, and so if someone is truly saved but struggles with sin a lot, there will be a lack of treasure waiting for them for in heaven. It just is what it is. That's the consequence for a lack of obedience. That's the reality of what is rewarded and what is not.

[@JesusSavesSinners]

There are No Scriptures that say You can Lose Your Salvation. You are Talking about Cults that Twist the Scriptures. 2nd Peter 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. 17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. 18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen. You can Take Verses out of Content and Twist them. When it comes to Dealing with Bible Twisters You show them the Truth of the Bible and if they Do Not Accept it You walk away. You do Not Try and Argue with Anyone who Plainly Denies the Clear Truth of the Bible. Salvation is Eternal Life this is what the Bible teaches. Sadly there are Millions and Millions of Lost people claiming to be Saved, to be Christians who spread False Doctrines. One of the popular False Doctrines they spread is that Jesus does not Eternally Save. They mock Christians that Believe the Bible that Believe Jesus when he says that he Gives Eternal Life. OSAS = Once Saved Always Saved. These Lost people are actively spreading Lies and pushing people into Hell. Read and study the Bible so you will not be deceived into believing False Doctrines, False Gospel's. A person who thinks they can lose their Salvation is not Saved because they are working their way to Heaven. Salvation is 100% Jesus 0% human effort. You did nothing to get Saved, and to say you have to do something to stay Saved is not Biblical. ETERNAL Means never Ending. Jesus Saves Eternally. Romans 6:23 “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” John 17:3 “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.” Matthew 25:46 “And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.” John 5:24 “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.” John 3:36 “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.” No the Bible does not teach that a person can lose their Salvation. You are trying to Work your way to Heaven. Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. Hebrews 6 does not teach a Saved person can lose their Salvation. It is saying what many other Scriptures says that Jesus died once for all of the Sins of the World, that it is impossible for Jesus to die again for the Sins of the World. Jesus already paid for all the Sins of the World. Hebrews 9:24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us: 25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others; 26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. 27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: 28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. 1 Peter 3:18 “For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:” 1 John 2:2 “And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.” John 1:29 “The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.” A person who thinks they can lose their Salvation is not Saved because they are working their way to Heaven. Salvation is 100% Jesus 0% human effort. You did nothing to get Saved, and to say you have to do something to stay Saved is not Biblical. ETERNAL Means never Ending. Jesus Saves Eternally. Romans 6:23 “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” John 17:3 “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.” Matthew 25:46 “And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.” John 5:24 “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.” John 3:36 “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.”

[@christopheespic]

​@@JesusSavesSinnersDo you believe that apostates do exist? If they don't believe anymore, don't they lose their salvation? Or do you claim they never actually believed, thus they never were saved?

[@JesusSavesSinners]

@@christopheespic I Wrote what the Bible says Clearly. Eternal means Never Ending. There is NO Salvation outside of Eternal Life!!!! Your Twisting of the Bible is Going to Send You to Hell. You are Not Saved because to be Saved You have to Believe in Eternal Life. I have already included many Scriptures that Prove this. This Video Proves it. It is Pointless to talk with a Cultists Bible Denying Lost Person who is Trying to Drag people down to Hell with them. Peddle your False Doctrine to Someone else. I have been a Christian Evangelist for over 40 years.

[@Kristy_not_Kristine]

Considering Jesus was baptized, that's a pretty huge clue that it was important. Jesus is our example. We ought to do what He did. A far as the their on the cross, who's to say he hadn't been baptize earlier in his life and just needed to repent sincerely before death. This guy is speaking a carnal feel-good false gospel. Faith, repentance, baptism, receiving the Holy Ghost, and keeping the Commandments are the Doctrine of Christ and are necessary. Religion can't save you. Even the Gospel can't save you. Only CHRIST can save you. Those who love God will do good works, but they aren't "required" as a to-do, works-based religion would try to convince you to believe in.

[@Antonio.R.O.C.]

This is how you rebuke Protestants in reference to baptism ⬇️ 🕊️“Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,”1 Peter 3:21

[@OldThingsPassAway]

Sean, I love you, but this guy is way too confident in the way he is talking about these things.

[@mc07]

What about someone who claims they were a believer but no longer believe? Like the guy from Mythvision.

[@adamruuth5562]

It's funny. Sean posts a video of an interview with an ex-Muslim becoming a Christian and it's all "haleluja!". But when someone turns away from Christianity, then it's all "He was never a TRUE Christian" or "He is still saved". Double standard.

[@mc07]

@@adamruuth5562 well, depends on one’s theology, and how they understand the Bible’s teaching. It’s not a double standard because it isn’t an arbitrary choice. The guy in this video understands scripture to be saying that once someone is truly saved, they will not fall away.

[@adamruuth5562]

@@mc07 Sure. Too bad we can't confirm that he is correct.

[@mc07]

@@adamruuth5562 there’s some debate about it

[@Ordinal_Yoda]

Only Salvation Level 2.

[@ejr821]

Great answers, but as for #3 smh. OSAS is a no.

[@Dropaprayer]

Why shake your head at the clear teaching of the Bible? Remember, Jesus will tell the fakers "I never knew you," not "I knew you and you left me."

[@ejr821]

​@Dropaprayer Well, brother, I'm aloud to shake my head left and right, up and down. If I wanted. But to answer your question because I do not agree with the teaching of OSAS. Yes you do have eternal security as long you abide in Christ. Amen. But the teaching of Being saved and once ur saved that's it gives people the impression that one can backslide and still be saved which is not true. If a believer after serving the Lord faithfully for years decides to back slide for whatever reason and begins to live a sinful life becomes a drunkard, or adulterer, or commits a criminal act and in the process happens to die, you mean to tell me he is still saved? Absolutely not. Jesus talked about falling away. You can read Matt 5:13, Matt 11:6, Matt 24:12-13, Luke 8:13, John 15:6. Etc. God bless you.

[@SSmith-dn9ib]

I agree otherwise Jesus would not speak of " luke warmness in Revelation. We have to keep following Jesus and shun the world and the pride of life as John says

[@ejr821]

​@SSmith-dn9ib Amen brother.

[@mattr.1887]

The truth just depends on which Christian you ask.

[@chrisgreen2299]

If Christ was baptized, all should be.

[@BenardoP]

Amen to that, but do not confuse it with salvation.

[@chrisgreen2299]

@@BenardoP agree

[@jenniferwalsh1731]

Yep, should but not required. I couldn’t wait to be baptized! But that’s not what saves me 💜

[@chrisgreen2299]

@@jenniferwalsh1731 same here, was a supernatural experience for me, praise God

[@juanmilian4207]

What do I do with 1Pe 3:21 or Rm 6:1-2???

[@simonskinner1450]

James says a believer is justified by "good works", but Paul says a believer is not justified by "works of darkness" in Ephesians 2:9. But in Christ unto "good works".

[@adamruuth5562]

A good author would answer all of this in one place, with clear wording; not making the believer have to jump around several books (that the author may not have agreed with).

[@simonskinner1450]

@@adamruuth5562 the context of my comment is from the presenter using James and Paul as if they meant the same thing when the use the word "works", and I put the examples into these true contexts, which were actually the opposite of each other. I have a 'draft book' in which even fuller explanations are given, it is Christianity using superficial meanings not in context that I am exposing, hence my Ytube videos 'Myths in so-called Christianity' with 32 videos do far on false teaching of the NT. I hope you would find me to be the good author, it is the false teacher jumping around to create a false concept of faith, which I proved in my comment which is the subject of my most recent video #32.

[@caedmonstudios]

@@adamruuth5562 A good reader would read the entire book and see that the picture of believing loyalty in the One True God is the basis of salvation and the destiny and responsibility of the saved are to live by the commands of God. This is evident from Genesis to Revelation.

[@adamruuth5562]

@@caedmonstudios "If you must be a 'good reader' to understand the message, then the message is obscured. Is it clearer to explain something succingtly in one place, or is it better to hint at it across several books, authors, years? I think the answer is obvious.

[@bethdodson9504]

I am not convinced about once saved always saved. I have seen too many fellow Christians lay aside their savior and salvation to go back into the world … to become fornicators, adulterers, idolators etc… Paul clearly states in Eph. 5:5 that these people have no inheritance and again in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10.

[@TheologyNerd777]

It is not a historical (nor Biblical) doctrine.

[@TheologyNerd777]

From Wikipedia- Eternal security is a doctrine providing believers with absolute assurance of their inevitable final salvation.[1][2][3][4][5][6] The concept of "eternal security" emerging around 1900 within different Evangelical groups,[7] represents its current prevailing form within Protestantism.[8] Indeed, the first documented occurrences of the terms supporting this concept were "security of the believers" in 1873 within Southern Baptist circles[9] and "eternal security" in 1913 within Plymouth Brethren circles.[10][11]

[@JesusSavesSinners]

Excellent 👍 💪🎯 An Important Note: When Explaining Acts 2:38 it is Essential to Explain Repent, (Yes Repent Comma. Repent is separated from the rest of the Verse.) which is always a Change of mind. God Repents in the Bible More then Anyone. God Does Not Sin. Repent of Sin is Not in the Bible. Every time God Repents he changes his mind. Also Acts 2:38's Baptism is the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. It is NOT A Water Baptism. I don't think Acts 2:38 can be properly explained without talking about: The Ethiopian Eunuch. Acts 8:35-37 [35]Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. [36]And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? [37]And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. The Salvation of the Ethiopian Eunuch Clearly happens when he Believes on Jesus. He was Saved by Believing in Jesus, by Believing the Gospel Only (Isaiah Chapter 53) After this then he was Baptized in Water. Repent of Sin is Not in the Bible and Repent is Not even mentioned when the Ethiopian Eunuch was Saved. These Points Need to be explained because Acts 2:38 is Always used to Teach the False Doctrine Repent of Sin and the Ethiopian Eunuch was Only Water Baptized AFTER he had Believed on Jesus Only to Save him.

[@jamesstacy3228]

Explain Acts 22;:16 and 2 Peter 3:31. You are not preaching the truth about baptism.

[@JesusSavesSinners]

@@jamesstacy3228 You are rejecting the Bible!!!! Like All Cultists you 100% Ignore what someone says, what I wrote, and don't Explain Why what I Wrote is Wrong According to YOU. You cannot refute my comment because I just Shared what the Bible says. I am Not going to play your Games. You have Not Explained Anything like I have and like this Video Does. The one thing I will Say is the Verses you are just throwing out there they Do Not Say that Water Baptism is Required for Salvation. The Ethiopian Eunuch was Saved than Afterwards he was Baptized that is What the Bible Says. It is Obvious that You Do Not care what the Bible Says. Explain to me where the Bible Says that the Ethiopian Eunuch was Required to be Water Baptism to be Saved? If you Say he was Required to be Water Baptized to be Saved then You are Just Plainly Lying because the Bible Says he was Saved by Believing in Jesus!!!! Then he was Baptized in Water.

[@ryankelly9032]

@@jamesstacy3228if you’re a sinner, how would repentance not include from sin? Seems like it’s implied. That doesn’t apply to God because God can’t sin.

[@neocount6397]

Ask Plato. 😅

[@mattr.1887]

You earn your salvation by becoming a born again Christian.

[@evanwildermann7034]

Lol the refute to Calvinism

[@russellmiles2861]

I feel the question is the wrong way around... Perhaps ask if one is Damned for all time Most likely

[@adamruuth5562]

For me, as an atheist, both heaven and hell are disgusting concepts. Why would I want to hang out with the Christian god? He isn't a nice guy.

[@mkl2237]

For all the “OSAS” crowd: how do you account for those who DO walk away from the Faith? (You gotta claim.. “uh, gosh, I guess they were never REALLY saved…” ).

[@seanpierce9386]

As an ex-Christian, you have no idea how much I’ve heard that line. Of course, I don’t believe it’s actually true so I shouldn’t really care. But it always stings when someone denies your genuine story to uphold their own dogma. Besides, the Bible isn’t sufficiently clear on this point. If Heaven and Hell are real, I don’t know where I’m going. Oh well, the modern conception of the afterlife is a later Christian invention not mentioned until Revelation.

[@mkl2237]

Brother, I appreciate hearing from you. Yeah, lots of views on it. And rest assured it isn’t me who claims to be judge of others. I do, however, take what Jesus said seriously and I do defer to Him. Try re-reading Matthew. Your assessment related to eternal destiny simply isn’t accurate, the part about not hearing if things until revelation. That simply isn’t true. Most of what we know about Hell we know from Jesus Himself. And most of that is in Matthew (and scattered throughout it). Again, I ain’t your judge. But if you do feel compelled to walk away, walk away informed. The essentials are: 1) Does God (YHWH) exist ? 2) Did Jesus actually rise from the dead. If 2 is true, and if you take any stock that Matthew records what He said with any measure of reliability, even if you don’t think Scripture is inspired)… Then you need to be informed and read Matthew completely and key into his warnings and examples… some of which followed the much-beloved Sermon on the Mount immediately and much throughout. If you don’t want to believe it that’s your business not mine.. but I’d suggest being informed because it simply isn’t true that not much is said about it until Revelation. Shalom. Wishing you a good life journey, brother!

[@mkl2237]

@@seanpierce9386 Sean, if it’s of any interest, you may want to hear David Pawson’s lectures … one is on "Believers in Hell" and others on the "true gospel" and another on "once saved, always saved?". OSAS is used by many as a cheap slogan… and it's a false assurance. So-called professing believers mag well be surprised, and think "salvation" means "safe" rather than the process of transformation in us that demands real change (which doesn’t diminish the finished work of atonement the cross achieved… it would take more discussion to dive deeper…). i can assure you that in this regard, i am no better a person than you, and im likely worse. i share this only as an optional resource, if its of interest. it may well not be, and surely it mag not address the serious reasons that you are an Ex-Believer. i just share it as a resource on this paeticular topic. again: Shalom. Maranatha.

[@seanpierce9386]

@@mkl2237 To clarify what I meant: Jesus never refers to Hell specifically. He speaks of the fires of Gehenna, which was a real place where people were burned for heresy. It still exists, look it up. Similarly, Jesus does not speak of Heaven, but the Kingdom of God, the new Israel. The Messiah was understood as the rightful ruler who would overthrow the Romans and establish such a kingdom. Jesus was what we now call an apocalyptic preacher. His message was repentance in anticipation of God’s imminent justice. Many Jews at the time also believed in a resurrection to ensure that everyone would be included in this final judgement. See Mark 9:1 for Jesus’s own prediction of the end times. Sound familiar?

[@adamruuth5562]

@@seanpierce9386 It's good of you to recognize that Christians act in this unloving and disrespectful way to protect themselves. It's not easy to think freely if doing so will get you tortured forever, apart from all your loved ones.

[@mkl2237]

Sean: you never replied to my response regarding David Pawson’s argument about John. (On this, there’s no one single “right answer obviously). Just want you to know I did write a reply. Rock on.

[@Nilsbigchills]

Mr. Farley and Mr. McDowell I applaud your love for Jesus and strive for truth but the fact is baptism does save us. This was the universal teaching of the early church and was the view on baptism until Calvin and Zwingli came along 1500 years later and taught otherwise. Even Martin Luther believed baptism saves. After all “repent AND BE BAPTIZED for the forgiveness of sins”

[@nilahoffman9692]

What do you do with the scripture that says repent and be baptised every one of you for the remission of your sins.

[@JesusSavesSinners]

Acts 2:38 [38]Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. You obviously can't read. Just look at the Verse: Repent, A coma is a separation of actions!!!! Repent means to change your mind. FYI Repent of Sin is Not in the Bible it is Works. This Baptism is Not a Water Baptism. Water is Not mentioned. FYI there are 7 different Types of Baptism in the Bible. When the Ethiopian Eunuch was Saved from Isaiah chapter 53, the Gospel, he said to Philip: Acts 8:36-37 [36]And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? [37]And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. When Water Baptism is the Baptism illustrated, that happens, is talked about, Water is always mentioned. There is No Water in Acts 2:38. The Ethiopian was Saved by Believing on Jesus Only without Repenting of Sin, without Water Baptism. He was Baptized AFTER he had been Saved, by Believing the Gospel, Believing in Jesus Only for his Salvation.

[@adamruuth5562]

Ask yourself why Jesus didnt make sure that this was explained clearly in the bible. I mean, it's quite a central issue that he fumbled.

[@JesusSavesSinners]

The Bible is Crystal Clear. You Just Do Not Believe What the Bible Says. This Video is a Short Video that Does a Good Job of using the Bible to Explain each Topic Covered. There are Numerous of Verses that are in the Bible that they could Not get to in such a Short Video that Backs up what the Other Verses they used says.

[@adamruuth5562]

@@JesusSavesSinners I beg to differ.

[@JesusSavesSinners]

Sean McDowell, I think You are not engaging with People in the Comments (Maybe You Do Not have the time to read the comments.) because You do Not want to get into the Weeds with People who Probably did not even watch your Video and are here Just to Argue and to Push their False Doctrines. People who are Not here Looking for the Truth. For the People who are Trying to Work their Way to Heaven. The Bible Teaches OSAS, which this Video Does a Great Job of showing: Salvation is Eternal Life this is what the Bible teaches. Sadly there are Millions and Millions of Lost people claiming to be Saved, to be Christians who spread False Doctrines. One of the popular False Doctrines they spread is that Jesus does not Eternally Save. They mock Christians that Believe the Bible that Believe Jesus when he says that he Gives Eternal Life. OSAS = Once Saved Always Saved. These Lost people are actively spreading Lies and pushing people into Hell. Read and study the Bible so you will not be deceived into believing False Doctrines, False Gospel's. A person who thinks they can lose their Salvation is not Saved because they are working their way to Heaven. Salvation is 100% Jesus 0% human effort. You did nothing to get Saved, and to say you have to do something to stay Saved is not Biblical. ETERNAL Means never Ending. Jesus Saves Eternally. Romans 6:23 “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” John 17:3 “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.” Matthew 25:46 “And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.” John 5:24 “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.” John 3:36 “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.” No the Bible does not teach that a person can lose their Salvation. You are trying to Work your way to Heaven. Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. Hebrews 6 does not teach a Saved person can lose their Salvation. It is saying what many other Scriptures says that Jesus died once for all of the Sins of the World, that it is impossible for Jesus to die again for the Sins of the World. Jesus already paid for all the Sins of the World. Hebrews 9:24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us: 25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others; 26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. 27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: 28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. 1 Peter 3:18 “For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:” 1 John 2:2 “And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.” John 1:29 “The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.” A person who thinks they can lose their Salvation is not Saved because they are working their way to Heaven. Salvation is 100% Jesus 0% human effort. You did nothing to get Saved, and to say you have to do something to stay Saved is not Biblical. ETERNAL Means never Ending. Jesus Saves Eternally. Romans 6:23 “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” John 17:3 “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.” Matthew 25:46 “And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.” John 5:24 “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.” John 3:36 “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.”

[@rickjelley6347]

Hey brother, I don't see how OSAS is necessarily linked to salvation by works/effort. Many people believe a person can 'lose' their salvation while acknowledging that we are not saved by personal effort. Also, the verses that you mention are not proof texts for OSAS. If it was that easy, everyone would believe in it. Or maybe you think that amongst them there is one that definitely argues your point without resistance?

[@JesusSavesSinners]

@@rickjelley6347 John 5:24 [24]Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. There is No Salvation without Believing in Eternal Life. The Bible is clear about This. If you don't Believe in Eternal Life then You are trying to Work your Way to Heaven. It is NOT Jesus Only for your Salvation. Non Eternal Life Belief is Works, you have to Deny that Salvation is through Jesus Only. I don't care what the People you are Following say I know what the Bible Clearly says. I have been a Christian Evangelist for 40 years and Salvation is Simple it is the Work of Jesus Only and if you ADD ANYTHING TO IT, then it is NOT Jesus Only it is Works. Anyone who reads the Gospel of John will Easily see this.

[@beadoll8025]

I agree with you. Anyone working for their salvation is a candidate for hell. It's the height of arrogance and pride to think a person has anything to do with their salvation. We are sealed by the Holy Spirit when saved.

[@beadoll8025]

​@@rickjelley6347obviously, you didn't listen to the message of the content.

[@rickjelley6347]

@@beadoll8025 Hey, I'm not sure which content you refer to, video or post... or why you would think it's obvious...? I was just mentioning that the topic of salvation by works and the topic of whether a person can lose their salvation are not inseparable. It seemed @Jesussavessinners didn't think so. Practically EVERYONE believes that we are saved by grace through faith. The question is, can a person once believe with saving faith, and then at some point later, no longer believe? People go back and forth on what they believe about a number of things. A muslim could through evangelism stop believing Islam and convert to christianity. Could it go the other way? We see christians stop believing and convert to atheism or some other religion quite often. Even people who have been to seminary and served for decades in ministry. They begin to lend an ear to the arguments of atheist and their faith is shaken. Nowhere does someone say they stopped working, they stopped believing the Bible, that Jesus is the son of God. Our beliefs are based on information, and when someone begins to entertain arguments by atheist or other religions, that has the potential to impact what a person believes. Our faith is not blind, although atheist try to portray it that way, it is based on evidence and information. And Yes, we are sealed with the Holy Spirit. Ancient seals were a mark that demonstrated ownership. The Holy Spirit dwells in a person because they are united to the vine through faith. Do you think that the Holy Spirit lives in people without faith? People not united to the vine? Blessings.

[@noelsetterington648]

The hour or moment we first believed we were saved by grace not works by Jesus not the law HELLO JAMES WAS SPEAKING TO JEWS AND MEN REAP THIS! James 1:1-8 - James, servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, sends greetings to the twelve dispersed tribes (the Jews living outside Palestine, and throughout the Roman and Parthian Empires and beyond. Some of the areas are shown in map above).

[@EricLovesCHRIST]

“I never knew you” is a middle eastern phrase for disownership You can lose Salvation easily

[@BenardoP]

No, taken out of the context. The "I nevere knew you" is not disowning but work based salvation and false relation. The phrase "Lord, Lord" can be also understand as a intimate and immediate calling, we see this with Samuel. These people were trying to fake relationship with Jesus with religios works.

[@caedmonstudios]

If you could lose your salvation, everybody would have already done so. Heaven would be empty. Otherwise, you either underestimate God's holiness or man's sinfulness, or both.

[@TheologyNerd777]

​@@caedmonstudiosEternal security is a doctrine providing believers with absolute assurance of their inevitable final salvation.[1][2][3][4][5][6] The concept of "eternal security" emerging around 1900 within different Evangelical groups,[7] represents its current prevailing form within Protestantism.[8] Indeed, the first documented occurrences of the terms supporting this concept were "security of the believers" in 1873 within Southern Baptist circles[9] and "eternal security" in 1913 within Plymouth Brethren circles.[10][11] This predominant form entails an unconditional eternal security which is not grounded on a Calvinist theology.[5]

[@EricLovesCHRIST]

@@caedmonstudios God let’s in who he wants He damns who he wants God is the judge, not “Perfection”

[@EricLovesCHRIST]

@@BenardoP that translation wasn’t even a thing until 1950 or so You’re thinking of Free Grace theology

[@chetanpaulr]

Heresy heresy heresy

[@riderstreamer6259]

Heresy 😳 whats your view on this. on which basis are saying that? Could you give us a definition? Tks a lot!

[@chetanpaulr]

@@riderstreamer6259its heresy to say once saved always saved, nowhere the scriptures mentioned like that. Tks

[@BenardoP]

John 10:29 ESV [29] My Father, who has given them to me,is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. John 3:16 ESV [16] “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. John 5:24 ESV [24] Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life. Hebrews 6:4 ESV [4] For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, To have eternal life by definition you cannot lose it, because eternal means unending and to lose something for it to end.

[@caedmonstudios]

If you don't earn salvation, how do you lose it? If you do earn salvation, how righteous must you be since perfection is obviously no longer the standard?

[@chetanpaulr]

@@BenardoP nope you are wrong for you don't know the scriptures and are giving ear to fake teachings which itch your ears

[@tompeers53]

The idea that you have free will before accepting Christ but not after is just wrong scripturally off. There are warnings all over the Bible that talk about the possibility of rejecting a once enjoyed relationship with Christ.

[@JadDragon]

I believe you can walk away from God after truly believing, and that's why the warnings and examples are there. Jesus lives! ♥️ and is Yahweh God 🙏🏻 Christ ✝️ and King 👑

[@Amarant8]

Very dubious these points. Especially the "once saved always saved" that is absolutely nonsense both logically and biblically

[@markwarne5049]

I don't get how any Christian can think its impossible to loose their salvation

[@BrandonGray]

You men of God do not rightly divide the word of God. There is a difference between the circumcised and the uncircumcised between the Jew and Gentile. Plus, though a human is a human at conception nevertheless it does have to come out of the womb right?

[@raehenderson]

Why is the thief on the cross always referenced? The thief lived and died under the Old Law. Jesus had not yet established the New Covenant. In the book of Acts, the history of the newly established church, EVERY act of conversion includes baptism. In Acts 2:38 it clearly was taught to be baptized for remission of sins. In Galatians we are taught that baptism also saves us. It is a willingness to die to sin and be resurrected in newness of life. To be IN Christ. Why is baptism such a stumbling block to so many? Paul himself was commanded by Jesus to be baptized. Jesus went to the cross for us. All he asks is a baptism representing the desire to be dead to sin but alive in Christ. I'm reminded of the story of Namman in the Old Testament. He too balked at dipping 7 times in the river Jordan to be cured of his leprosy. It's a humble thing baptism. A commandment that places us in God's family and Jesus's blood covers us. I'm very disappointed that yet again another voice was given a platform to speak untruth.

[@JesusSavesSinners]

The Law was given to Show all Mankind that no one could keep the Law. The Law showed us that we were Sinners in need of a Savior. Believers in the Old Testament were not Saved by being obedient to the law of God. The Bible clearly teaches this: Romans 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. Old Testament Believers were Not Saved by animal sacrifices: Hebrews 10:4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. The Bible Does NOT Teach Multiple Plans of Salvation!!!! The Gospel is the Only Plan of Salvation in the Bible. The Old Testament Promised a Savior the Messiah that would Save the World from their Sins, the Messiah that the Jews looked for. King Herod Knew this, it was common knowledge. Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this. Zechariah 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass. Jesus was Crucified BECAUSE HE SAID HE WAS THE PROMISED MESSIAH!!!! John 8:54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God: 55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying. 56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. 57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. 59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. Jesus Declared many times that he was the Promised Messiah. Jesus Disciples followed him because he was the Messiah. Read Isaiah Chapter 53 which is the Gospel. The Gospel is in the Old Testament. John 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. 25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. 26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he. Jesus Preached the Gospel: Mark 9:31 For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day. Luke 24:7 Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again. There is Only One True Gospel, Way to be Saved in the Entire Bible: Galatians 1:3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ, 4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father: 5 To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen. 6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

[@nickswicegood4316]

15 seconds in and you claim “the thief on the cross didn’t have time to be splashed in water.” 6+ hours on the cross wasn’t enough time to be “splashed in water”? Do we have biblical proof that he wasn’t baptized at some point prior to being crucified? It doesn’t engender confidence when the first thing out of someone’s mouth is an addition to the biblical text in order to create a prooftext for their doctrine.

[@shanezarcone5401]

The clear reading of the text suggests that the thief was not baptized. You're making leaps of logic to assume that he was, and then acting as though the silence on the matter works in your favor, and not against it. Imagine the scenario in which the thief was baptized, he would have to make his declaration of faith, and then the roman executioners would have had to allow someone present to go fetch water and essentially chuck it up at the thief, and that this would have been his baptism. And yet nowhere in any Biblical account do we have a passage that so much as hints at any such event taking place. Do you see how ridiculous that is when you lay it out? And that's ignoring the fact that baptism as described in the Bible is never depicted by means of sprinkling or pouring, let alone literally throwing water at someone. It is you who is adding to the text by suggesting that we should have any expectation at all that the thief was baptized.

[@JesusSavesSinners]

@@shanezarcone5401 Well Said!!!! Great Comment!!!!

[@nickswicegood4316]

I’m not making any “leaps of logic”. I’m asking a simple question. Do we have biblical proof that the thief was never baptized? Do we know if he was baptized on the cross? No we don’t. Do we know if he had a prior relationship with Jesus before going to the cross? No we don’t. This man just made a claim that he didn’t have time to be baptized and therefore he is an example that proves his doctrine. And you’re supporting that… He is a bad example to use because we simply don’t have enough information to determine one way or another. It’s very concerning that this man is willing to add his opinion to scripture, then use his added opinion to support a doctrine. And it’s concerning that you are uncritically supporting that. The only biblically honest thing to do here is either provide a single verse that proves the thief was not baptized or delete your comment.

[@shanezarcone5401]

@@nickswicegood4316 How do you not see how nonsensical your argument is? Let me show you. Peter dressed up as a clown and went to children's birthday parties. What? You're saying we don't have any Biblical evidence whatsoever to back up that claim? Well then, show me one verse that says that Peter did not dress up as a clown and go to childrens birthday parties. If you can't do that, the only honest thing to do is delete your comment. You see how I can use the exact same logic you're using and just dial up the example to be more ridiculous? All the information that we do have suggests that the thief was not baptized. We have zero evidence that he ever met Jesus beforehand, which is backed up by the fact that both Matthew and Mark record both thieves mocking Him. "In the same way even the criminals who were crucified with him taunted him. " Matthew 27:44, CSB "Let the Messiah, the King of Israel, come down now from the cross, so that we may see and believe.” Even those who were crucified with him taunted him. " Mark 15:32, CSB Neither Matthew or Mark record the thief repenting, but both say that both thieves taunted Jesus. Harmonizing this with Luke, we can see that the thief first taunted Jesus, and then repented and asked Him to remember him. This being the case, should we conclude that the thief both knew Jesus beforehand and was in fact baptized, and then later mocked Jesus as He was crucified? I think that position obviously does not fit within the confines of the Scriptures. Far more likely is that the thief had never known Jesus, and never repented, until he was already crucified alongside Jesus, and could therefor could not have been baptized. So it is you who is trying to read things into the text to support your doctrine, not the other way around. The thief was not baptized, and still he went to be with Jesus upon his death. Notice also since I assume you're Catholic, that Jesus told him that the thief would be with Him in paradise that very same day, no time for the thief to go through purgatorial fire.

[@nickswicegood4316]

It’s also very important to utilize your reading comprehension skills prior to criticizing someone’s argument. For example, you said, “You're making leaps of logic to assume that he was, and then acting as though the silence on the matter works in your favor, and not against it.“ Look again at my comment. Find the sentence where I “assumed he was” (baptized). When you realize I didn’t make that statement OR assumption, it makes your statement nonsensical, and what you wrote a few sentences later even more bizarre. You wrote, “It is you who is adding to the text by suggesting that we should have any expectation at all that the thief was baptized.” What exactly did I “add to the text”? My argument is that we don’t have enough information to add anything one way or the other to the text. That’s why we shouldn’t use the thief on the cross to try to prooftext either position. I personally have no idea if he was baptized because the Bible doesn’t tell us. I’m comfortable with not knowing. I’m UNcomfortable with people adding information to the Bible and then using those additions to prop up their doctrines. Just make sure you’re responding to a persons actual comment and not your own straw man version of their comment next time.

[@TeachingChurch]

Stop teaching the Bible and misleading people

[@TeachingChurch]

You two bozos don’t even know what the gospel is

[@TeachingChurch]

Holy crap you two just absolutely destroyed the Bible. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@caedmonstudios]

Just watched your 5 min video on salvation with 60 views. Your claim of the Bible written only by Jews is incorrect (Luke, Mark, Ruth...). Your dispensational theology of the method of salvation is heavily flawed. Galatians, James, Romans says Abraham was saved by faith, not works. Your interpretation of the rich young ruler is flawed. He tried to make his own case for righteousness to Christ and Christ tested him on that case. If you're going to make your case on the law, it has to be perfect. That's the point. I'd be careful about the critiques you throw at others when your own interpretations are questionable at best.

[@TeachingChurch]

@@caedmonstudios sure. Your right. I’m wrong. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@JesusSavesSinners]

@@TeachingChurch You are Vulgar, Sarcastic and Wrong.

[@mattr.1887]

There are real-world problems out there. And you guys are splitting hairs over the doctrine of baptism.

[@TeachingChurch]

You two have to stop with this silly nonsense. Stop teaching people the Bible because you are leading them down the wrong path.

[@TesirSaeed]

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