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[@CardmarketMagic]

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[@chessazertyarno]

thanks for making these kind of deckbuilding videos, i really enjoy watching them

[@CardmarketMagic]

@@chessazertyarno thank you for watching them :)

[@ericfletcher7046]

That may have been the greatest bluff I have ever seen in my life.

[@danrighthere85]

Dito

[@Mordraith]

Kathleen being "wildly out of control" while Graham is "nervous" about paying life is *chefs kiss*

[@DaftMANIA]

You should watch the Thoralf vs Frank Karsten video on here with the Fact or fiction bluff, it is mind boggling. You are in for a treat

[@DominikSpilka]

@@DaftMANIA Can you elaborate on which video exactly it was? Thanks :)

[@lars_rosenberg]

@@DaftMANIA Yes, that was amazing. Frank Karsten is a genius.

[@wumpmas2]

thoralf was playing magic, but graham and kathleen were playing thoralf

[@devinkerr5474]

Sounds like typical LRR shenaniganry

[@RobertJW]

A++ comment, well done.

[@LibertyMonk]

Their cards were so bad, especially with each other, they knew their pile of cards wouldn't even be a deck. So, their only chance at winning was to make three separate tricks, and use their comedian training to keep their opponent off balance.

[@shieldgenerator7]

kathleen reeeeaaally likes Mindslaver

[@krystallinekris]

@@LibertyMonk Not to mention, drawing perfectly what they needed each time to activate those three different 'combos' without, somehow, drawing dud hands.

[@nicolasrededeo805]

"We strategically lose the custody battle" Typical mtg gameplay I see

[@janmelantu7490]

Up there with other unhinged MTG sayings like “it’s the Snorse that Bobs Wrong” and “it’s Kicker with Birth Control”

[@2LettersSho]

Does the combo even work though? Oh wait, it does. You can stack the triggers to return the Archfiend to the opponent before losing but you still control the oil counter trigger on the stack; had to think it through :D

[@xchronox0]

@@2LettersSho Nah, you send it over on the turn it would go to 1 oil counter, not 0. Because if it goes to 0 during your upkeep, you lose no matter who controls it. The ability was put on the stack with you as the controller. So "you" will still refer to you. They put it from 2 to 1, then sent it over. Which means Thoralf would automatically lose on his upkeep, no matter how the triggers get stacked.

[@justharry2190]

that's what my father said to the custody lawyer

[@karlstrasbaugh8178]

Was their 1 during the upkeep technically 0 since they made all the 1's into 0's?

[@JustXen66]

I love the light in Kathleen's eyes when Thoralf bids ten. The excitement of a perfectly executed trap

[@shieldgenerator7]

that bid to 9 was calculated

[@RobertJW]

​​@@shieldgenerator7 The aggressive high bids to keep Thoralf bidding back conservatively for his best card, landing him right where she wants him. Chef's kiss, perfect.

[@JR-xv6mv]

Honestly, this is how wizards should build duel decks. High synergy decks with cards that would normally see little to no play. I would love to whip decks like this out when a friend comes by.

[@StickyBombLauncher]

That is how they made them for years and they were horrible.

[@JR-xv6mv]

@@StickyBombLauncher Well, not quite. They only had a couple of rares, and mostly just felt like draft decks. I’m talking actually somewhat tuned decks with proper synergy.

[@tatz717]

Try the Card Kingdom duel decks. Unfortunately for me the shipping really adds to the low deck cost.

[@violaknapp7904]

Ah yes, the tale as old as time: One finely-tuned infinite combo deck against a pile of "I have no idea if this is going to work but it would be soooo cool if it did, let's put it in just in case!". But seriously, that was a very cool matchup, I hope you had as much fun cooking with these cards as I had watching it!

[@jamalsachleben3026]

Spoilers ahead: . . . . . The BS won The BS won This is not a drill They threw their garbage on the wall and it stuck

[@MommaGart]

Never seen a best of 3 match with such DIFFERENT win conditions!!! Magic is such a cool game. My compliments to the chefs.

[@MrGrovak]

Oh that hook, line, and sinker on the Hidetsugu's Second Rite was awesome.

[@xchronox0]

if only he bid 11 life instead

[@DNGNDriver]

1:32 "Strategically lose the custody battle" is one of the all-time great CardMarket quotes 😂

[@NiiRubra]

21:42 lmao! This was a great back and forth, at first I thought that Thoralf's deck was stronger due to its synergies, but then Loading Ready Run's combination of R&D with mind control masterfully neutralized everything Thoralf could do and set up their little hot potato for a kill, and then I was impressed again with the next match where they perfectly set up that Hidetsugu with their gambling, this felt like a perfect match up of strategic planning vs chaotic energy, and you can't bet against chaos.

[@krystallinekris]

Especially when they draw the exact combos they needed each time without their three seperate strategies getting in the way of each other, somehow.

[@s4ad0wpi]

"We don't want to make OUR life-total 10, that kills us!" "I'm helping!" XD

[@Romashka_Sov]

"NINE! This means no? No, i don't speak German"

[@cameton_youtube]

The mind games in game three though 😂

[@Blizz3112]

Thoralf's deck was stronger, but Kathleen and Graham's deck was definitely funnier... XD

[@janmelantu7490]

Unfinity, Eggs, and Second Rite? It truly is a LoadingReadyRun special

[@NathanielSimpson1481]

background watching so hadn't seen the Hidetsugu's Second rite in hand then looked up and burst out laughing especially the Thoralf had his combo in hand

[@Erik_Sjostrom]

The comedic thing is that Thoralfs favourite card in magic is actually hidetsugu’s second rite and then he Lost to it. Oh and by the way these cooking videos are really good 👍🏻

[@salbaca1104]

funny story its also one of nelson's from LRR favorite cards he used to play it in canlander

[@hagli7847]

That ending is ABSOLUTELY CINEMA! Or I guess since it's a cooking show, 'Cooked to Perfection'.

[@Tinnituss]

Cinema has a script so I guess you’re right

[@PrereleasePrep]

We need a supercut of all the best moments in cardmarket games. Like thoralf loosing at 10. Andrea giving pro red to save himself and the topdeck from Karsten to kill Thoralf after two FOF

[@sigurdviskum978]

And the Karsten ambush singleton Orvar 😅

[@Tekarusame]

Karsten 5x0 Fact or Fiction bluff that worked out. Actually scratch that, anyone reading this go watch that whole video, it's gold.

[@joedoe7572]

​@@Tekarusamewhich video was that???

[@yuvalbar]

Oh oh oh, and going from three mana to emrakul at the modern semi's, what a move was that!

[@icantsayping6282]

Best deck modern ending in infinite extra turns through emrakul as well, such an unexpected ending

[@SmashedFish76]

Mage's Contest has been one of my favorite cards for a while now, I hadn't thought of the Second Rite combo but now I'm definitely putting that in something! I love this sort of deckbuilding challenge, thanks for a great collab video!

[@CardmarketMagic]

I'm happy you enjoyed it :)

[@Luper1billion]

I like how the guy in the Trade Routes art is like "wait, let me cook"

[@tallynnyntyg6008]

Shut up, humans! I'm a vedalken, I have better knowledge of this.

[@TimBergen]

With that "YOU!?", Kathleen's shriveled black heart beat a single time.

[@XanosKnyghtshade]

Just letting everyone know, starting a custody battle, according to MTG, is committing a crime.

[@rhysjonsmusic]

As it should be

[@zackestin1368]

Only if it’s on a card that’s not yours, which is accurate

[@mumpster_13]

OMG!! Deffinitly my favorite ending to a magic game ever!!

[@Haights]

"Hidetsugu's Second Course. ...right, Second Rite." "No, you were right." "Of course." Is it too on the nose to say how chef's kiss that was?

[@WolfPage-f8w]

The chaos and ridiculousness of all 3 games brought tears to my eyes

[@Shnoblr]

Some great kitchen table magic 😮‍💨

[@jemm113]

Honestly now I’m motivated to buy more cards for both a huge cube for stuff like this! That and maybe buy more 4-ofs of cool cards I like and just have some 60 card fun. Commander is cool but this would be something to do with friends at a house party!

[@bricelory9534]

Loved the ending - got played so hard!

[@NicolaiBolas]

Graham and Kathleen from LoadingReadyRun are some of the easiest people to root for in the world! I love watching them play and I always have fun cheering for them to win! The chef battles are such an awesome idea and both sides delivered some awesome combos!

[@mattconw]

Yo, Nicolai! I hope they start doing guests on their PPRs again, would love to see you with the LRR team for one of those.

[@mittertag1864]

Magic is a game, where actively trying to lose custody battles will benefit you ;-D Very happy with the video and that we got another Masterchef-style video. I love watching people brew and use some absolutely obscure cards to win. And a game like Magic has so many of them! Hoping though that we might get to see Kathleen playing in a future video too^^

[@T_Peazy]

This is the best magic video ever. Nelson is thrilled somewhere.

[@devinkerr5474]

"Really whipping those lands to stiff peaks" just sat perfectly in my soul

[@gethan3189]

This the team up I never knew I wanted but makes me so very happy. As a side note. Kathleen at 2:38 is just peak person.

[@JarneB]

Sol Ring always Crazy activated ability:3 Anyways so happy to see you are back and extremely hyped for the next Best Deck Series

[@vladtodorov4665]

Time and time again best magic content out there. Amazing host , amazing guests, everything is perfect. Also Cathleen for best con-woman? yes?

[@PharaohBender27]

Excellent language joke by Kathleen at 22:08

[@krystallinekris]

How have I not heard of this? I'm going to watch all of these now. Also the amount of drawing exactly what was needed in the opening hands for that pilot deck was so crazy, I thought I was playing MTGA xD

[@PowdergameFan18]

That 5 and 9 call was the greatest, sneakiest manipulation Ive ever seen in Magic. The payoffs!!!

[@thenumberpie314]

Remind me to never, ever in my life play poker with Kathleen. That bluffing power was even able to kill Toralf with his favorite card... Wow. I love those Card-master videos! Especially since this time doesn't feel like someone won on the technicality of sideboards. Will you do a "Master of Masters" episode with the winners of these games? This would be so cool (even though getting all the guests to agree on a single day to meet would be hard).

[@bricelory9534]

legitimately cool combo with Skill Borrower - but man, the Brainstorms were MVP on Game 1.

[@blackdawn99ify]

It not real. Skill borrower doesn't get the haste

[@xchronox0]

@@blackdawn99ify Why not? It creates a copy of skill borrower, then gives the copy haste. Then since the copy has haste, it can tap to create a copy of skill borrower, and give that copy haste.

[@zacharypoplawski1076]

@@xchronox0 Unless I’m missing something, it’s because Skill Borrower specifically copies *activated* abilities, which haste is not. If you had a way to give all your creatures haste, that would do it but it’s a much less clean combo

[@Nonregional]

@@zacharypoplawski1076 No, the combo actually does work. Skill Borrower can’t copy Kiki-Jiki’s passive haste, but his activated ability grants the copy haste. So, as long as the first skill borrower isn’t summoning sick, the loop is functional.

[@xchronox0]

@@zacharypoplawski1076 Haste is not an active ability, you are correct. However, the active ability that IS being copied gives the creature copy it creates haste. It's right in the ability text.

[@xldod8217]

Truly one of the most entertaining and refreshing ideas for MTG content. Please do more!

[@Regarel]

11:14 Captain Rex Nebula is actually more legal than you would think since Unfinity made the distinction between acorn cards and vintage legal. Hell, Saw in Half actually got reprinted with Bloomburrow in one of the precon commander decks, and it was from Unfinity as well.

[@The_PokeNerd]

I love this cooking show series with bad cards, especially with various guests. Keep up the good work, I can't wait for more in the future!

[@Medium_Mac]

Wow, I loved this video and gameplay! This channel is a reminder of the fun and wonder that Magic can bring out of us. And it's often the weirdo cards that end up being the most exciting and memorable experiences!

[@sh41]

I love the creativity of building around bad cards

[@MathisGries-ml5qv]

These videos always bring me so much joy, love the work you guys do

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you :) I'm thrilled that you like them

[@yoshimitsu5537]

The crossover of the two best MTG channels is everything I hoped it would be! That was hilarious!

[@lukek.5773]

18:59 JUDGE!!!! the custody battle could trigger first

[@IceBen4444]

It did resolve first, just not its controller loses the game, but "you" the one who put the ability on the stack.

[@harutakami1313]

Favorite thing with Rex Nebula: Brazen Dwarf and Assault Suit. turn the Dwarf into a Vehicle, slap the Assault Suit onto it, have it deal damage, start rolling dice and don't stop till everyone's dead. (Sigarda's Aid makes it really easy, since you can flash the Assault Suit in and auto-equip it)

[@Rana__]

That Kiki line in game 1 was wild, very well played.

[@sufifi]

Great episode, thanks guys ! It did seem a little unbalanced on paper though, given the choice I'd take Trade Routes / Equilibrium / Skill Borrower any day of the week ^^'

[@kirillsniff9133]

never in my life would i have thought i would see a Smosh clip in a CardMarket video 😯😯😯 love it

[@DavidF485]

This is fantastic. The decks remind me of the kind of casual decks people used to share way back in the 2000s (remember Magic Deck Vortex?). I'd love to see you guys do this again some time!

[@silviobaiguini69420]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the Archfiend Custody combo doesn't work because Thoralf could stack the triggers so that he gives away the Archfiend first and then the oil counters effect resolves, at which point his opponents control the creature and the effect, and they are the ones to lose. If you are confused about this interaction, there was a Magic puzzle video on this same channel where Jamin had to stack effects in a similar fashion to give control of a "bad" trigger to his opponents. I might be wrong, but this is my understanding of controlling effects. Edit: I mean, it WOULD work if the turn they give it away is the same turn the last oil is removed, but it definitely wouldn't work as they think it did at 18:50 Edit: Nevermind, I just found the video I was thinking of and it's not what I remembered. So I am probably wrong and I misunderstood how such effects work. For context, the video is this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXnSe4OgqcukaNEsi=XSpsc6eoa42pBFof

[@joelhatterini6392]

Finally, I've been waiting for so long to see another Jank Master Chef

[@zacdredge3859]

'Everyone Loses the Game' is so far from being a bad card though; Platinum Angel says 'Hi'...

[@nathanielreichley4640]

Excellent selection of ingredients and what an ending guys

[@OtherSideLLC]

Cardmarket, LRR, and Smosh in one episode to quote a famous dog "what is this a crossover episode"

[@gunfighter009]

How is Smosh involved?

[@collinball7443]

@@gunfighter009they use the gif of Shayne parming into Ian’s open mouth

[@ev_ring]

Love the editing style at the start!

[@khengar5517]

Great Vid- please do never end this type of gameplay

[@doylerudolph7965]

This is actual peak Magic. This is what many of us want to go back to when playing casually.

[@Killed_By_YoYoMa]

Glad you changed the thumbnail. I was so sad that trade routes was listed as a bad card.

[@tessanger]

This is amazing, can only imagine the rest of the office laughing so hard during the editing that they fall off their chairs 😂 I had to rewatch the life biding war, so amazing.

[@_knighted]

WOW what a match! Both decks got to do their combos, and that ending was insane!

[@mothballmouth]

I love Thoralf so much; his deckbuilding and wit are unmatched even by two of the greats from LRR.

[@_Mythic777_]

Both of these decks seemed genuinely viable for some weird reason and I'd love to see them play more jank decks like this at pro tours!

[@gallowshumor1784]

the loading ready run deck is actual garbage, at least thoralf's deck had a few combos going for it haha

[@joedoe7572]

​@@gallowshumor1784yet it won

[@giacomoferraresi3762]

This is brilliant. The community needs more of this

[@RedArrogantKnight]

Absolute top-tier magic content. The game doesn't get better than this.

[@mikenahmias7102]

It's so refreshing to see actual deckbuilding that doesn't involve just copying a tier-1 pro deck or being in line with the current meta. The best games have the most diverse decks.

[@su0tin731]

Hahahaha, I loved watching Thoralf walk into Kathleen awesome ruse!

[@Rocknoob49]

That Hidetsugu was so cool! Actually a mind game win, not a card-tech win in a way

[@korbsen]

That was such a great win at the end! But I also loved the second game. Although Kathleens and Grahams deck seemed a lot worse, they somehow pulled it off! ♥

[@patfenn399]

Fantastic concept. I think you could probably do a full "episode" in this "chopped" kinda style. Appetizer, Main, Dessert. 40 Card limited deck, Modern Deck, Pauper deck... or something of the like? Would be fun!

[@DaftMANIA]

mindslaver turn: cast brainstorm, put kiki on top, make 1000 copies, end-step the tokens get sacrificed, 1000 archfiend triggers to lose 2 life?

[@brendanrobot1]

They paid 4 life for the glacier cassum

[@DaftMANIA]

@@brendanrobot1 They had glacial chasm yes, but archfiend is lifeloss and not damage, so it works. Chasm does nothing to prevent this.

[@Grooveworthy]

Game 3 was one of the most stylish wins I've ever seen. Very well played to both.

[@benistoneman9737]

Great matches fun magic. And can we note how much fun and better and interesting symmetrical magic is. When the enchantments effect the whole board it makes the games so much more interesting

[@chummer2060]

This is a wonderfully silly game. You are all amazing. I think my co-worker is concerned about me because I can't stop laughing.

[@BCfightan]

Did not expect that outcome at all hahaha. I was fully expecting Thoralf to spike this

[@Feeling_Better_Already]

That REALLY came together! What a masterful gambit, incredible!

[@edwardszklanecki1332]

Glad you put trade routes in the Thumbnail, I want to put that in my party box.

[@cheftony2383]

Fun fact: Thoralf actualy won the second game because of look at me i'm r&d, the archfiend had 1 counter before passing to Thoralf, however because lf r&d it actualy had 0, witch means that he tecnicaly won

[@grahamsommers4876]

thoralf giggling manaically heals something deep in my soul.

[@RazorbackDoom]

This was a lot of fun. Very much enjoyed.

[@charlottenelken]

This was just the most delightful video I've seen in a while!

[@Yammenkow]

Did not expect the Smosh reference 9:45. "That guy" is Shayne Topp lol

[@FPRobber]

All three of those games were great. One of your best videos yet. (hoping for more legacy/modern/pioneer/standard though, I loved that content)

[@stevenmitchell27]

We run it back up again boys! Thanks for making my day!!!

[@ruisuichromaafigitis3236]

My day is now enlightened. Thank you.

[@Alejandrodemontana]

Holy hell this was marvelous, what a delicious meal y’all prepared

[@treeofthetrees9132]

This was a master class episode. Too funny

[@ManaPirate]

Kathleen is a riot, She's so much fun! And that bluff! These challenges are so good. More courses please!

[@blackfox2061]

Just wow... I did not think that these decks could show off... I'm amazed! 🤯

[@deadlineuniverse3189]

4:15 Headquarters location shining through with that “Guten Appetit”.

[@danw.1250]

I love this concept. Right off the bat, you can narrow it down to 42 cards by putting in lands. Neither color does mana well, so grab 8 rocks. Then, hit the card draw card 8 to 10, removal 5 to 6 spot removal and 3 or so big booms like O-stone. Then you have plenty of time to build out the rest of your deck.

[@egoalter1276]

You dont want mana rocks or non synergistic removal in 60card constructed. Thats commander logic. 4of a card 60card formats you generally want every card to hold optimal synergy, and you want to play counter pieces like removal in the sideboard. 18 lands is also extremely slim, abd wont be enough for anything that isnr balls to the wall aggro, or mana light combo. Mana rocks are just generally not good in 60 card constructed. You are better off with a utility land or a dork usually. Card advantage is generallx a much tighter issue than in commander. Games last more turns, mana curves are generally lower, players play more cards, there is more hand disruption.

[@robertb6889]

Those were both brilliantly evil decks. Well done!

[@ashtonbrockway9312]

thoralf is actually a frickin machine. dude built a deck in no time that has twice as much synergy as most people's pet deck. insane

[@johnfanjoy3469]

Exactly how they drew it up. Well played, chefs.

[@slothmoth2389]

All three of those matches were an absolute joy to watch!

[@Pistoolkip]

So glad that Graham finally learned how to brainstorm correctly!

[@siri7005]

This was absolutely amazing. I have the dorkiest grin on my face.