Against the Odds | Can Stuffy Doll Beat the Best Deck in Modern?

[@CardmarketMagic]

🎎🐉 Decklists: bit.ly/3CCV7pg

[@overtone55]

Hey, that Pariah card is pretty good. It pitches to Solitude

[@lorisbach9905]

I feel like people tend to forget that Pariah can target opponent's creature and acts as a removal spell and fog effect. It's not that bad on Regent for exemple.

[@thehatebringer8005]

If playing against a deck that only has burn spells for removal the pariah cast onto your vindicator just wins the game because you can no longer take any damage ever and it all goes to your opponents face

[@henryackerson7138]

​@@thehatebringer8005until they bring in bounce/dress down/ counter it to begin with

[@lordhallibel3604]

@@henryackerson7138 cool story didnt ask

[@ich3730]

@@henryackerson7138 "if playing against a deck that has only burn spells for removal..." Didnt know that dress down does burn damage?

[@amboss6957]

instant thumbs up for the shot of Crim being shoved toward a Jamin wearing a crown

[@ThereIsAnExtension2UndoHandles]

That Thalia was almost as brutal as the old 'chalice on 1' that got Harry

[@BraxtonMeyer]

Pretty sure it's spellt Hairy but yes.

[@oliverhaberstock4958]

That Dress Down was absolutely brutal, great content team

[@DarkAvenger1234]

Absolutely crushing

[@uriarte411]

Those are format quitting moments right there.

[@jeffe2267]

I love how Jamin was going to walk Crim through the hypothetical ideal line, but ended up just getting to show him instead of tell him.

[@stillcantthinkofaname4800]

Real heart of the cards moment

[@sethmasters2147]

That should have made blot not get exiled right?

[@ThereIsAnExtension2UndoHandles]

Crimm played that Game 2 aiming for content, and content was what we got

[@nathanpalmiter3260]

Having Crim pilot Seth's against the odds decks is pure genius. We're so used to Seth being super positive when things work out, but I love seeing Crim's reactions to just drawing some of the cards. He's so flabbergasted

[@davidd.w.8681]

21:50 Crim "please don't have a counterspell" was so hilarious.

[@captain6915]

He was sweating a lot

[@ahuman7027]

Really XD

[@chrispowell2480]

Fun fact, on that second to last turn, Crim could have cast Thalia and still B.A. That way Jamin couldn't have countered or dressed down in response.

[@Captain_Wasabi]

Yup, that was the line!

[@ferificatienodig1025]

he could have had unholy heat or bolt though, I saw the same line, but it might have been to risky.

[@poiri]

@@ferificatienodig1025unholy heat would not have helped since delirium was not active, bolt was the only realistic out to that line.

[@ferificatienodig1025]

@@poiri oh wait, you're right, then it prolly was the better line since if he had the bolt Jamin would've won the next turn anyways.

[@khurgar8120]

he could respond to thalia with dress down, if he had it.

[@samglover2246]

Crim just proved an important rule in Magic: make them have it. Yes, you should be smart, but if your choice is risk playing into what might be a counter or lose, always go for it.

[@kieranharwood7186]

If you play ten threats and they have nine answers you just landed a threat. that's all you need sometimes.

[@thecrazycapn]

Seeing the Against the Odds live against an opponent with reactions does add an extra dimension to it.

[@jeffshittles3664]

the two best magic websites working together. epic

[@jacktorborg9862]

The editing, little side commentary on these videos is out of this world good! Really sets it apart from other magic content channels. Also, of course love mtggoldfish and seth and crim, loving the collab.

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you! It's worth all the hard work when hearing stuff like this :D

[@danieldelaney1377]

@@CardmarketMagic yes whoever makes the little side bars with the information is a good example of german efficiency

[@lowciel]

Can we talk about in game three when Jamin only has 2 open mana, crim draws the 5th land, and could drop the Thalia to deny the counter spell and then play the Blastphamous act?

[@r4g1ngph03n1x]

Yep, came here for this too, but at least we got there in the end.

[@emschmetty417]

I mean a spell pierce would have still worked, but yeah, the line was there

[@lowciel]

Spell pierce would have worked, but Crim hadn't seen one, and kept saying "you don't have spell pierce, you wouldn't have kept that in"

[@Samantho87]

I mean Jamin could have also bolted the reckoner in response to a blasphemous act and then the game would probably be lost for Crim.

[@lowciel]

I'm talking about 35:12 when Jamin bluffs the counter spell

[@bryankopkin6869]

This was a great video! Love the Cardmarket x Goldfish crossover!

[@CardmarketMagic]

There is more of this crossover to come :)

[@poiri]

36:25 best line from Crim here was probably playing Thalia so that Jamin was locked out of counterspell and only had spellpierce as a possible counterspell then playing the Blasphemous Act with the remaining 3 mana. The line is weak to Lightning bolt, but then again so is waiting.

[@xano2663]

i will never be a control player... everything in me wanted crim to go for it. there are already 2 counterspells in the yard only 2 mana open.. just tax and JAM thats what i would have done but then again maybe i am not a good player xD

[@andyony2]

I think, it wouldnt have make him weak to Lightning Bolt. Because even if Jamin Bolts something, Crim can cast Thalia. Also: Between Thalia entering the Battlefield and casting Act, Jamin wouldnt have get priority again. So he could have only Bolt something before Thalia enters. :)

[@liamfoote7164]

​@@andyony2he had two mana up to bluff counterspell. He could have

[@yaboy821]

@@andyony2 if jamin had a bolt crimm would have been dead the next turn anyways

[@smeatar]

I feel like the editing on this channel manages to get a perfect balance that other channels miss. Like, The Command Zone also does special effects and cutaways where players talk about the game but they go over the top and do it too frequently and it makes me dislike their videos. This channel uses it just the right amount, it really adds to the video without distracting from the video. Same with card descriptions, you have a good sense of which cards need describing and which ones are common enough that people know them. Admittedly I did have to pause to read Mishra's Bauble but that's probably because my experience is with commander and I've never seen it played there. Also I love how you show the triggers on the stack and have the little reminders about delirium and other important things to track, it's another thing that would be very easy to overdo but you do it just enough that it adds to the experience without distracting from it. My only complaint is that I hate the sound of cards being flicked and I've had to stop some videos because of it.

[@SP-ik6cc]

This was great - wouldve loved to see another short call with Seth after the games.

[@Audentior_Ito]

Two of the best MTG outfits out there! Hope to see more collabs

[@CardmarketMagic]

There will indeed be more :)

[@zurreal8087]

You’ve gotta love Crim’s commitment to the content!

[@overtone55]

Sweet decklist from Seth. Wacky as all hell but effective

[@nickjoseph77]

The thumbnail was amazing and this was a great way to have Seth be there and force Crim to play against the odds. Lol

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you! I'm thrilled you enjoyed both it :D (and the thumbnail)

[@lukesveen5269]

As a stuffy doll player, I've found via fnm at my lgs, that Spiteful Sliver is better than Boros Reckoner, and I am now shaved to not even running Stuffy Doll in the mainboard. Phyrexian Vindicator has proven incredible. I strongly suggest adding 4 of both Deafening Clarion and Burn Down the House. I have never run Thalia or stepmom, I initially decided to build the deck with more mass damage instead. I strongly suggest running Cleansing Wildfire, I even run a playset in my mainboard, I notably replaced 4 plains with 4 Flagstones of Trokair, I also run the Boros indestructible lands, making Cleansing Wildfire a reliable RAMP piece that I can also use as a land hate piece if necessary.

[@Jay-zt1pq]

My two favorite magic channels collaborating, couldn't be more excited!

[@Varler_]

That was so much fun! I'm always amazed at the production quality of your videos and at the kinds of amazing guests you guys manage to get on!

[@CardmarketMagic]

We do put a lot of work in :) happy you liked it

[@TinyLegs15243]

Really enjoying the crossover episodes. Always enjoy both cardmarket and MTGgoldfish content!

[@thornthallid950]

I love the production on these videos. I've never seen paper magic videos that are so clear and easy to follow.

[@edwardliddell501]

I've been in love with this channel for awhile now. The gameplay videos, especially, are almost all straight fire.

[@EAD6031]

While having an against the odds without hearing once "Ooooooponent" feels weird, it was a wonderful vid ! Thanks both Cardmarket and MtgGoldfish teams

[@LucasMartins-gs6fd]

You folks have the best advertising! A big big up for the clever deck price on the corner WITH the shipping included!

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you! We try 😅

[@BoltTheEmolga]

The Against the Odds videos are genuinely top 5 videos on this channel, would love to see this again if/whenever they come back

[@ReneAlbertoZuritaSanchez]

Jamin has the best attitude and energy. His interaction with Crim was *cheff´s kiss*

[@lvl85taurendk]

Probably the best magic content out there atm for real for real!

[@CardmarketMagic]

That's so kind of you to say :)

[@gooob7548]

Thank you for doing this collab. I’ve been missing Thoralf and Jamin since Arena Boye ended

[@Reverie42]

I've built a version of this deck before. Another tech is Guilty Conscience, which goes infinite with either Stuffy or Vindicator. Toss in a couple boros charms and it can go infinite with Reckoner or Mogg Maniac as well.

[@tianruixiao9239]

Crim is always so entertaining to watch, this was great to get in while he was in Europe!

[@blaccoffee1]

This is the crossover episode I never knew I wanted but definitely needed

[@davec8385]

Loving these great videos week after week! I hope you guys have a great rest of your day :)

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you! :D let's both have great days

[@pathtracker4944]

Thanks for putting so much love in every videi you make! That is to you, whoever is editing this video, but also to the whole team ! Putting so much energy into a magic game, doing those little breakdowns lf the situation and the thought processes...

[@ConManAU]

This is why Against the Odds is so great - the deck that should get crushed instead gets to shine just a little. So wonderful seeing two all-star channels team up to bring this level of content.

[@talamran7499]

this is a crossover between my two favorite channels, couldn't ask for more

[@bencheevers6693]

Love this series, saw another one, hope you guys keep doing this. Magic is pretty good but a meta or format where lots of eccentric decks could be competitive would be great, I like limited a lot but I feel like constructed is so one note but your giving me hope with this.

[@matteorebeschi6824]

Great production (as always), fun theme and awesome guests... another banger!

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you :D

[@fish_in_distress]

This is so cool, it's like two crossovers in one with Crim playing an against the odds deck

[@phillipmeade7640]

You guys are my favorite MTG channel now. It’s official. Keep up the great work guys.

[@CardmarketMagic]

That's high praise! We'll make sure we live up to it :) thank you

[@Iceboxbeefboy]

Best channel to watch paper magic every video is a gem

[@brothertobias]

Only THREE things are certain in life: DEATH, TAXES and THALIA, GUARDIAN OF THRABEN. That was a great video. I was thoroughly entertained.

[@SeleenShadowpaw]

the white weenie to white all weenies

[@TheKilskast]

That second game was phenomenal, very fun video!

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you! :)

[@honorableintent]

The subtitle "Probably better known as Saffron Olive" broke me. Good one, guys!

[@jacobarnoldmusic]

There are really cool combo stuffy doll decks that used to be played around the time stuffy doll came out. I remember seeing some at my lgs back then. They are quite a bit different from this one though.

[@digitalcardboard]

that moment when at the end of the video you close full screen to like the video... but you remember you always snap-like cardmarket videos and the video is already liked

[@CardmarketMagic]

You double liked in our hearts 😅 :D

[@spliffi869]

Oh sweet, nice to see Crim on here. Another great guest and match!

[@tiltedcube]

I don't know why I found it so funny that Crim transferred his Arena commentation to his in person playing

[@shrinkshrink]

I’m so glad to see Crim full send it for the content and the result turned out the way it did

[@OogaB0oga]

26:44 missed out on a Ledger Shredder trigger for potential lethal that turn :P Jamin didn't have a spell to pitch to Connive in hand, but could have ordered triggers to resolve the DRC surveil first, then keep on top anything that's not a land or mill a land for another shot at finding a nonland to loot away and grow the Shredder, for that final point of damage :) GGs!

[@allopeth]

Wow two of my favourite MTG channels together!! please keep the collab going! :)

[@colinoclock]

100% ❤ this video and collaboration!

[@EgXP]

Mild spoiler, but Crim saying he was being kinda flashy @27:25 is ironic, considering Jamin's play beforehand, right? Lol, great video as always, guys!

[@underscorerx]

This was an insanely entertaining match

[@iclimbeverything2990]

Blasphemous act line was amazing. Loving this channel

[@Pandajannick]

26:50 they didn't do the connive trigger, Crim was dead that same turn if they've done it

[@JEDWOLFF]

I was so confused where there was against the odds yesterday. It all makes sense now

[@cameton_youtube]

This was a really cool matchup! Good job to all involved

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you :)

[@spicychinchin6597]

Dude the videos have been banger after banger. Can't wait to watch this match!

[@magica3526]

at 36:22 couldn't he thalia into blasphemous act to stop counterspells? am i missing something?

[@DefinitelyNotReal627]

Nah mad respect to Crim committing to the content play. It made for incredible content.

[@DatKyoda]

I just built a stuffy doll style commander deck using Atla Pilani to flip them over when the eggs die, and have been ABSOLUTELY loving it. Glad to see the doll get some love 😄

[@DerickTheHeroV2]

I was screaming at my screen for Crimm to go all in so much in that third game. I am very grateful that he did. Every single turn with all the surveil and conniving I was like ughhhh you just have to go for it. 😵‍💫

[@andrewpowers3730]

You guys have the best gameplay videos! Always look forward to your videos

[@BenziTrain]

At the 36:31 mark, should've play thalia. If it gets countered, hes tapped out and you can play BA. If he doesn't counter it, he won't have enough mana for counterspell and you can play BA (plus the thalia tax)!

[@zachariahhuey9876]

I LOVE the status updates on the sides of the battle field!

[@MindstabThrull]

What about Chain Reaction in the side as well as additional Blasphemous Acts? Cast it sooner, might deal less damage but sometimes you just need to get Regent off the board :)

[@DaveTheNoob]

First time checking out the channel from the goldfish shout. Very well produced show! Deff hit the sub button!

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you! 😃 we are reaching 100k subs so every one is greatly appreciated!

[@UNCLEBEN2021]

This is an awesome collaboration thank you so much for the great content

[@CardmarketMagic]

There is more with the MTG Goldfish friends to come :)

[@lego-man7694]

36:30 Thalia plus blasphemous act wins right?

[@hugmonger]

So funny enough this was my Return to Ravnica standard deck. Boros Reckoner + Blas Act "All American Bombs"... IM so happy to see it again

[@gaminggeckos4388]

0:18 Spark Rupture seems REALLY weird to build around. Like, aside from WAR Huatli and Kiora, most planeswalkers don't have loyalty much higher than their CMC. And even with Hautli and Kiora, is a 3 cost vanilla 7/7 really worth going through those hoops? I think that'd be most interesting to see

[@godtiermtg]

Love the Cardmarket MTGgoldfish crossovers!

[@purplelilypervincle4898]

This video enlighted my day! I was really sad, but as always you made me laugh 😊

[@CardmarketMagic]

I hope your day remains a little brighter :) keep it up and thank you for commenting

[@CTGStudios]

Oof. Was rough to see that punt at 36:26 Could have cast Thalia, upping creature count from 6 to 7. If he has the counter, he no longer has the mana to play it. Blasphemous Act goes from 3 mana to... 3 mana. Which still allows you to go for it.

[@OGNoNameNobody]

Game 2 was a little sloppy; After *Dress Down* resolves, all the red cards on the Stack go to the Graveyard normally. Also, a *Ledger Shredder* trigger was missed, meaning lethal could have been a turn sooner.

[@CardmarketMagic]

Haha, yes, we missed the Dress Down vs Sanctifier interaction in light of the craziness that just went down 😅 -Jamin

[@CaptainStahlnippel]

YES, stuffy doll is one of my all time favourite decks. I love this!

[@TerminallyNerdy]

The combo I never knew I needed: MTG Goldfish, and Cardmarket.

[@TheWorstWurst]

Really good content. Love the crossover

[@SmokeADig]

Loving the Goldfish crossover episodes 👍👍👍

[@CardmarketMagic]

So are we :)

[@moralessanchezoscarelias6412]

Great video, awesome collaboration 🎉

[@Era5erhead]

Super fun crossover! Keep up the good work!

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you :)

[@thegreatmaximilian]

Love a good against the odds. Great collaboration.

[@chesanceram4842]

Awesome collaboration! Love it!

[@marcumfleet502]

More MTG Goldfish Colabs! This was awesome.

[@theremy-levelup]

It took a awhile for my brain to process Against the Odd title not paired with MTGGoldfish logo 😅 Great video and good game though!

[@Psychonaut999]

Awesome! Apart from Jamin missing so many Bauble Triggers. But good show!

[@rubentigre9269]

This channel is by far the best mtg channel ever existed

[@CardmarketMagic]

That's so kind of you to say :D thank you! We do try our best

[@stolenravage2522]

Love the cooperation with mtg goldfish. both are incredible good yt channel :)

[@Wind_Ninja_Jubei]

Keep these coming. They are fun

[@brettjuergens9785]

I love that stuffy deck. btw the cure for it, and indistructible decks, is Everlasting Torment. Card Name: Everlasting Torment Mana Cost: 2Black or Red Converted Mana Cost: 3 Types: Enchantment Card Text: Players can't gain life. Damage can't be prevented. All damage is dealt as though its source had wither. (A source with wither deals damage to creatures in the form of -1/-1 counters.) Flavor Text: When night fell, the plane itself was scarred. Expansion: Commander 2016 (Rare) Commander 2016 Rarity: Rare All Sets: Shadowmoor (Rare) Commander 2016 (Rare) Card Number: 233 Artist: Richard Kane Ferguson

[@narius4241]

honestly I know very little about magic but i still watch like all the paper magic videos because I used to play magic many years ago, casually of course. One deck i'd like to see you guys run one of these days is a 2003 quarterfinalist goblin deck that was mostly red but splashed in some black primarily for patriarchal bidding. I have the deck physically so i'll post a full deck list sometime this week, i have no idea what format it even is.

[@CardmarketMagic]

If the cards have gold borders, then it's Wolfgang Eder's Goblins list from the 2003 world championships. The format is standard. We are inviting a special guest in a few weeks to record a bunch of gold bordered deck content :) we'll try to fit the golbin deck in!

[@narius4241]

@@CardmarketMagic yes, the cards are gold bordered so you hit the nail on the head, thanks

[@cole_CK]

Best storytelling in MTG content

[@Nutshellbill]

I haven't seen punting for content that deliberate since the last time I watched Game Knights.

[@auskiski]

Very cool video, nice work guys, keep it going!

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you! :D