Can Your Submitted Deck Beat Andrea Mengucci? | Mono Black Zombies vs Izzet Murktide

[@CardmarketMagic]

🧟🐉Decklists: bit.ly/3V38pEb

[@thobeck7324]

Thanks a lot for choosing my deck (if im correct, my first name is Thorben and i send in Mono black Zombies). Was great watching the games. Really enjoyed it and well we are talking about beating Mengucci on a cardmarket video, that doesnt happen too often :)

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you for submitting it! Your deck was a blast and the game was so close! The money should already be on your account :) but if not, it will be there shortly (the person responsible was told to wait till after the video as not to spoil the ending for you)

[@Aaackermann]

Cool decklist and I was so rooting for your deck to win! ;-) Why wasn't the infernal grasp in the maindeck though, since you were allowed to bring a decklist speciffically build against Murktide!?

[@mopanda81]

infernal grasping yourself in game 3 counts as a win to me

[@shelkofsky1]

Man, if grasp had been doomblade!

[@egoish6762]

Good deck man, good fight against murktide.

[@markcargill1304]

I believe in Game 3 in response to the bounce side of brazen borrow you are supposed to also sacrifice the undead augur. You'll be at the same total cards in hand, but you will effectively remove brazen borrower from andrea. The carrion would also then be out of bolt range thus requiring an unholy heat or EE. Your next couple turns would've looked similar in play even if andrea had the heat for carrion, EXCEPT andrea wouldn't have the borrower in play to threaten life total or eventually crew the hearse.

[@sicto]

This^ I was wondering as well

[@eon2330]

He made like 30 mistakes between the games. From rushing out crawlers and therfore losing them. Not starting with grasps in main deck(a choice I assume) rushing 2 augurs. Not sac looping early. And overall trying to win wide instead of tall vs a bolt deck.

[@GsusSenpai]

Also got very confused how Andrea thought he could tap Unlicenced hearse as he used it as a attack to give more counters. Gotta watch them peeps even if they pros.

[@jamesloder8652]

​when was that? I didn't see him exile anything on the attack.

[@JamesThompson-zu3bq]

@@eon2330i don't think it was a choice not to start with grasps in the main deck, they always just play with exactly the decklist that was sent in, so if the decklist has grasps in the side board the they are in the side board

[@moshimeshowu747]

As someone new to magic, I definitely appreciate the fact that you guys explain the rules on every card when you cast it for the first time, very helpful ❤❤

[@gkiyo]

Mengu playing murktide in paper? Excited to watch this one.

[@korbsen]

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[@juanmanumba1508]

Dudes.. the edit and animations of all your videos are excellent!!! continue with more modern content please ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you! That is so kind of you to say :D

[@digitalcardboard]

it doesn't get better than this... finishing a day of work only to stumble on a just released banger from the Cardmarket team. highlight of the day !

[@CardmarketMagic]

Happy that our hard work enhances your day :) truly a treat to hear!

[@adaephon412]

This zombie deck seems really fun to play, and it can obviously win some games. Think I might try to pick this one up!

[@brandonguth7033]

Andrea Mengucci is quickly becoming one of my favorite people

[@MrPiotrV]

how? he's 1) a cheater. it's hard to find info on it now but he was banned for several years for cheating 2) one of the smuggest people I've ever seen.

[@RLKC8]

@@MrPiotrV when does he cheat? Also, ngl, he has plenty of skill to back up this smugness

[@NeverLuckyOP]

​@@MrPiotrV what event are you talking about? His suspension (13 years ago I believe) was because he drew an extra card, skipped his next draw but didn't call a judge at any point and received an 18months ban. (Extra draw is a grv but trying to cover it up/not declare it is considered cheating, hence the ban) Besides that, I don't believe he's ever been suspended. He got a DQ for a draft for inputting the wrong card in Arena (which he also reported but it didn't matter). So really curious about why you'd call him a cheater. Mistakes happens, even at worlds.

[@MrPiotrV]

@@RLKC8 lol, I'll let you in on a secret: smug people aren't smug because they're skilled, they're just smug. he's smug in all areas of his life. besides, does being skilled justify being a smug pos? i don't think so.

[@MrPiotrV]

@@NeverLuckyOP people don't get 18 months bans for honest mistakes. a lot of investigation goes into those bans. besides, that doesn't change the fact that he is unbearably smug, and that is overwhelmingly evident in his videos.

[@TheRussness]

loved this episode! super easy to follow and great job describing the cards/actions at a good pace with good visuals! i dont know the guest but he knew his stuff and i love seeing collabs with other creators

[@mordai9994]

LETS GO more Mengu and card market makes me excited! Hopefully you guys have some more Mengu and Thoralf soon?

[@CardmarketMagic]

Yes the next feature match will be Thoralf & Mengu battling it out in pauper :)

[@sl3848]

@@CardmarketMagic Nice! I know that the novelty of some of the unique challenges is fun, but as somebody who finds MTGO vids pretty tedious to watch, it's also nice just watching good players jam meta decks in paper. Looking forward to that video either way

[@luckyowl9191]

@@CardmarketMagic yessss, my favourite type of feature match

[@mordai9994]

@@CardmarketMagic maybe with altar tron? ;;;)))))

[@CardmarketMagic]

@@mordai9994 hahaha yes exactly with Altar Tron!

[@ebogsnes]

Very fun video. I particularly enjoyed that this one was a cheaper non-meta archetype rather than a cheap variant of a meta archetype like these videos have been previously.

[@daolothe]

This is by far the best Magic channel. Amazing production quality and friendly gamers. Just really positive games where it seems like everyone is having fun.

[@CardmarketMagic]

That's very kind of you to say :)

[@drpibisback7680]

Not sacrificing the Undead Augur in response to the Brazen Borrower in game 3 seems like a huge mistake. Sacrificing the Gravecrawlers and then the Augur fizzles Borrower, denying Mengu the ability to turn the corner and get aggressive, draws an additional card, and gets the Carrion Feeder out of Bolt range (forcing either a 2-for-1 or low impact EE crack). With two Augurs in hand, there's no real reason to hang onto a third one. Maybe wouldn't change the outcome, but it seems like a missed opportunity. Edit: Absolutely turns that game from a loss to a win, that Borrower went coast-to-coast. Fizzle Adventures whenever you can, it's an often overlooked part of their design - the creature only goes on the adventure if the spell resolves.

[@ScrOuch13]

That really was great content! Gives all the creative minds a reason to brew some really cool budget decks. (I'd like to count myself to these brewers but somehow I doubt that). Please more of this stuff! It's always exciting to see tier 1 decks getting challenged by outsiders. Thanks for your work!

[@mopanda81]

I think this is a really exciting series hope you guys can try again soon!

[@laurelkeeper]

Cardmarket is probably my favorite MTG channel on KZbin, MAYBE second to Commander At Home, but suffice it to say that if I'm ever ordering some singles, I'm doing it from y'all. Keep up the excellent work, and I hope your channel continues to prosper.

[@loganator326]

Honestly I've been playing a lot more Go For the Throat than Infernal Grasp in specifically standard and pioneer and I've noticed very little change in the hits. I know there are more artifact creatures in modern because of Hammertime but it might be worth flipping those two

[@SkillsByNiels]

It weird that the deck doesn't play doomblade or Ultimate Price instead of infernal grasp when you know you play against murktide

[@asdfghjkl2261]

Pile On would be great for this deck, but probably didn't exist when the list was submitted

[@arsenalfanrichi]

I would think that eaten alive makes sense for the deck, given the recursion themes?

[@fuma9532]

Victim of Night may have even less invalid targets, and the double Black shouldn't be a problem for a monocolored deck

[@DeadlyGrim]

One of the things that I love about Magic is that a budget deck -- $100, $50, heck even $25 (though that takes more luck) -- can legitimately threaten a win against a much more expensive and meta deck. Sure, sure, more expensive decks usually have better consistency, more margin for error, and can deal with more matchups. They definitely have the advantage! But with a misstep or a bad draw in the right circumstances and, all of a sudden, your deck that you had to take a mortgage out for is dying to 15¢ draft chaff.

[@CardmarketMagic]

This is specifically why we love making this kind of video! And the zombie deck was facing one of the best murktide players in the world! It could have possibly won against an average player playing the same deck

[@PepegaSanya]

Really liked the video and both decks - it's my first time seeing Mengu's deck, and, as a beginner Izzet player, I'm really impressed! Have a little question about a particular card choice for the mono black deck - why Infernal Grasp and not Go for the Throat? It's both cheaper to buy (if I'm not mistaken) and doesn't have a life point cost. Sure, it can't hit artifact creatures and that might be a problem in other matchups, but Mengu's deck doesn't run any

[@CardmarketMagic]

I belive Thorban submitted their regular list instead of a list tuned to murktide

[@PepegaSanya]

@@CardmarketMagic Fair enough, because it's an overall solid list! Thank you)

[@spliffi869]

Super entertaining. Absolutely love this mixture of casual, positive attitude combined with pro skill magic. Best of both worlds!

[@KlittoD]

Mengu is my favorite guest for every show! So passionate for the game!

[@karamelptcg]

Mengu is the best guest you guys feature, I absolutely love watching him play paper magic in the videos!

[@boringniceguy1]

Do not forget Nassif :-)

[@ZRoFun]

I loved the Arena Boys so so much. Cardmarket's content is just that times 10. Loving it and all the various formats you all do!

[@WontonTV]

I'm glad it's not just me that sees this as the spiritual successor to Arena Boys 😅

[@famokZ]

Very interesting! Especially comparing budget decks with "normal" decks :)

[@GizZm086]

Love the latest content and showcasing different formats of the game. Easy to follow and understand whats happening. Keep up the good work!

[@Gaming_Duck]

Mengu is really good! He should try playing professionally!

[@mordai9994]

He does

[@Thomas-dk6fr]

@@mordai9994 wooooosh

[@EionBlue]

This decklist splashing white and playing Wayward Servant is a lot stronger, so if you're impressed by this very nice showing, you can try a less budget version, it is surprisingly competetive.

[@sl3848]

Cardmarket, please find a way to make these videos more frequent! I don't know of any other channels that have paper gameplay of 60-card formats with actually good editing and charismatic players. More more more!

[@CardmarketMagic]

We've tried really hard and we are currently hiring, but so far I haven't found anyone else who is able to make them, and these already take most of my time 😅 but as soon as we hire another editor who can make them we'll be trying to do more :) - Carl

[@sl3848]

@@CardmarketMagic That would be great! Definitely my favorite Magic gameplay channel. Would love to see more meta decks as well as the wacky challenges. The Megnu v Karsten Pioneer match was awesome!

[@kyleellis1825]

Would love to see a video of you guys doing a cube draft of community submitted cards. You could even tailor it to certain themes. - "Submit Alara /Ravnica/Theros/Homelands/Alpha/Unset cards" So you can get keywords focused on certain themes. Or doing Jumpstart of community packs. Get people to submit a 20card theme pack and mix and match them for some quick games.

[@dks6515]

Isn't this Saffron Olive's Zombie Combo deck from the recent mtg goldfish article?

[@Varler_]

That was fun! Zombies was my first budget Modern deck when I was in high school in 2012. (Now I'm feeling a bit old. lol.)

[@CardmarketMagic]

(Carl the Editor here) I was also thrilled to see zombies as that was my first deck in Avacyn Restored (2012). The Gravecrawler nostalgia is real!

[@Sterben14999]

Game 3 I believe zombies should’ve had it at 37:02 because you have 7 mana, thran vigil, carrion feeder, then gravecrawler. Sac grave crawler and play it from your graveyard 3 times and put 3 counters and the putrid goblin and attack for exactly 5!

[@Suppaichu]

hearse stops that, doesn't it?

[@trutherx3440]

the music editor keeps getting better and better give him a raise

[@CardmarketMagic]

It's all the same editor :) and thanks

[@Psycchan]

im no pro player so idk if it wouldve been a good move, but at 29:28 i wouldve sacced the augur in response to the bounce. especially seeing 2 more in hand after the first draw it feels better imo to get the feeder outta bolt range and have a threat that asks to go 1 for 1 with explosives. plus, its the same number of cards in hand whether its sacced or bounced so its not like youre down a card that way

[@OfficialLKON]

That would have also fizzled the Brazen Borrower so Andrea couldn't cast it later. The borrower ended up being huge for him winning the game. In retrospect I agree saccing there is definitely the right move, but of course not obvious in the moment

[@Psycchan]

@@OfficialLKON i hadnt even thought about that! adventures are weird and i totally forgot they go to the grave when they fizzle lol

[@eddievedderface]

I'd love the see some Atarka Gruul in Pioneer. It's capable of 'fairly' playing a 20/20 trample dinosaur on turn 2. That's fun. It would be cool to see you fellas give it a spin.

[@valt3rnative]

Putrid Goblin 💚 One of these days one of my million goblin decks will make it into one of these cardmarket videos!

[@wolfwoodgamer5814]

This was an awesome video - loved it! What a close matchup

[@CTDMUDRUNNER]

Enjoy the modern and pioneer paper gameplay. Energy is high here. Love it. Keep it up.

[@bartvanlieshout3715]

At 30:30, even without the knowledge of the opponents hand, isn’t it better to also sacrifice the undead augur? It draws of itself, had more undead augur copies in hand an would get the carrion feeder to 4 toughness and out of lightning bolt range, a point that was earlier mentioned in game 1 or 2. Would also have fizzled the petty theft disallowing the brazen borrower to be on an adventure -> card advantage Would love to hear your thoughts on it, besides that. Awesome content as always, much appreciated!

[@bartvanlieshout3715]

Sorry, meant 30:00

[@Zeus.2459]

Yeah I was wondering about that as well

[@thomaslunn6601]

Yes, it's a hard line to see but it almost certainly would've been enough to win the game as Andrea couldn't stick another threat for a very long time

[@henryrobertson7643]

I don’t play magic or yugioh but… I love this channel and I have no explanation. Thanks for the content.

[@alexandercanazachambi9744]

this mono black zombie deck looks perfect for after-work-kitchen-table-modern, we will try it out (:

[@abdeel_]

This match was crazy, i was at the edge of my seat, great content guys

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you! :)

[@Aigis31]

That is one sweet Zombies deck! I undervalued the enchantment in the deck. The Gravecrawler + Putrid Goblin combo with it are really good! I do wonder if life loss is enough of an issue to be playing another 1B removal spell over Infernal Grasp though.

[@jayemdaewarehouse9027]

This is probably my favorite Magic channel since Pretty Deece and Thoralf is creeping up to Patrick Chapin in terms of my favorite pro Magic personalities. As an American, I’m sure I’m not someone eligible to submit a deck but I love seeing the rogue brews people come up with.

[@oscarpelican5602]

Zombies missed lethal the last game, play thran vigil into carrion feeder into a grave crawler, then use last three mana to sacrifice and bring back gravecrawler three times putting three counters on the putrid goblin and swing for 5

[@nadoghost146]

Hearse is untapped, you will only get to sac it once and swing for 3

[@YourAdHere4]

wouldn’t the goblin be summoning sick

[@austinwoodhouse2584]

The unlicensed hearse might disagree with this

[@nadoghost146]

@@shiniselune399 brooo read the rule about creatures with flying, I beg you

[@shiniselune399]

@@nadoghost146 you know what? i completely forgot they all flew. x)

[@torben1756]

was fun to watch. Still i miss the pauper content on regular base you promised at some point. Pauper content is still so rare these days :( push the format of the people!

[@CardmarketMagic]

The next feature match is pauper :) we are still doing pauper as one of the most common feature match formats. These videos simply take wayyyy longer than the other shorter videos to make so they come out less often

[@MrABK108]

When I am sitting on an empty hand and draw a land, I usually dont even play it. I keep it inmy hand as a "mysterious threat", often look at it intently as if it's a powerful instant.

[@SneoK]

Some nice roque decks can go a long way, given this was like 1K vs 100 Euro, this was extremely close, sadly felt like we have seen the same 5 cards in the zombie decks again and again, would have loved to see the combos working a bit better, headless rider creating a huge board or just adding those +1/+1 counters with the putrid goblin and the thran vigil...really fun deck, especially for the budget

[@piralos1329]

LOVE this kind of content, very fun, and helps it feel very unique!!

[@alecolson8360]

The editing in these is always amazin

[@loafy2]

Love cardmarket feature match absolutely my favorite videos you do

[@user-fu7no1xu5b]

I love this series so much. Please make more vids like this

[@ursulcx299]

I remember that list when Seth from mtggoldfish first featured it a few months ago, I was really interested with the possibility of playing it and try my hand at modern with it

[@NNNNTTTT-q6c]

This was so fun! Would you consider doing another one of these?

[@CardmarketMagic]

We plan to do this again, yes :) in the next few months probably

[@dansacharko9350]

10:15 flippin the bird casually

[@paxtonjk]

zombies had it in the last game if you cast vigil, feeder, and grave crawler you could of made a 5/5 putrid goblin

[@jtmoney606]

This was a great matchup, I’m in the process of building a izzet murkTide deck it’s my first modern deck I can’t wait to get the rest of the cards and start playing more 1v1 btw the ragavan reprint helped a lot lol

[@ShakeItLittleTina]

Gotta say, I love the amount of dice in this video

[@lugarial]

If Jamin played the following sequence on the last turn, Andrea would go to 2 Play Thran Play Gravecrawler Play Carrion feeder Sac Crawler to feeder Andrea can respond to the Feeder's trigger to exile Crawler and Grasp, which triggers Sigil and put 1 +1/+1 on Putrid Goblin. However if Andrea misses the opportunity to respond, you chain the Crawler loop until Putrid gets to be a 5/5 and kills on the spot.

[@Toastbrot1234567]

Yes, saw that one too. Andrea was also tapped out, so that should have been a win for the Zombies.

[@mtguille7193]

I'm sad it wasn't my deck but it was very fun. Good games!

[@R3ach4Th3Sky]

A cool line that I saw that I don't think was worth it towards the end was evoking Fury and crewing Unlicensed Hearse with the sacrifice on the stack. Being able to kill the opponent's creatures and getting another 4 power would be super nice, but alas Putrid Goblin is rude :(

[@mtgmoderndude5620]

Nice Zombie Deck! instead of fatal push maybe try it with bone shards. Sacrifice Gravecrawler and all the the other effects triggers

[@Griffen25]

Great idea to compete viewer decks against Mengu

[@catfactsuk]

Best MTG channel, love the videos. Thank you.

[@CardmarketMagic]

No thank you for watching! We work so hard on these it's wonderful to have an audience :)

[@catfactsuk]

@@CardmarketMagic The reason I enjoy this channel so much, is the range of content. Your card reviews, game showmatches, how can you win this turn, judge's tower. New vidoes are refreshing

[@justinleblanc9089]

Awesome content as usual guys! Great distraction from work today

[@lukage03]

Great video, i need more budget decks

[@peterrowley110]

So happy every time you have Andrea Mengucci on!

[@rainieralbertsz4165]

Orzov zombies is fun too, gives you life gain with wayward servant and hand disruption with tidehollow sculler

[@jokester348]

Awesome stuff!! Have a great rest of you day!

[@CardmarketMagic]

You as well! :)

[@BrianTomihama]

Love the games, Really trying to get myself over the hump to get into Modern. Really like the stuff here, lots of ideas.

[@ebogsnes]

Btw, as someone who watches both the magic and YGO channels, I would love to see content like this on the YGO channel someday as well!

[@CardmarketMagic]

You mean the 100€ deck challenge? I'll let the Yugipeople know :)

[@ebogsnes]

@@CardmarketMagic Yeah, the 100€ challenge is very nice. I'm fairly new to YGO so I'm not sure if it translates well to that game, but if it does it is a very cool concept for videos.

[@Astrangeddog551]

I love watching you all play paper magic!

[@alanpbandeira]

Great video, always good to see mengu playing tabletop mtg

[@massimomallia4304]

Super entertaining to watch, good job both 🎉

[@Razomka]

Great video! Really enjoy the content, I do love a feature match.

[@joshua_lee732]

I'd like to see Andea play the budget deck against a winning deck next time

[@maxhammond3398]

So cool to see a budget zombies list

[@hinriksup]

Hey, great video! Is this a deck that I could consider as a first deck? Something I can walk into a local game with? Thanks!

[@Jedicake]

Even though I don't play modern, this was still super fun to watch

[@KuzaFkto]

In the first game without that counterspell Jamin would have won with exact lethal. That was extremely close 😬.

[@Tharkon]

First game, if Jamin had sacrificed the gravecrawler at 15:43 before the headless rider died, I think he would have survived Andrea's next turn. Oh wait, forgot they all had flying. Last game if that Duress or Infernal Grasp had been a Diabolic Intent to search for a Fatal Push he'd have won.

[@willivey1601]

At 6:57 could he have not sacrificed the gravecrawler to the feeder then bring back the crawler to but infinite +1/+1 counters on the feeder?

[@CardmarketMagic]

It costs one mana to bring back the crawler each time unfortunately

[@antongensolin1809]

I love this pls make more sub 100 euros deck videos

[@1ntegrator]

Great games :-) But if you knew you are facing Murktide, wouldn’t another removal spell for 2 mana have been better? Like go for the throat or doomblade 😢

[@acotebra2187]

If i want to upgrade this deck to a non-budget / stronger version. Which cards should i change? Could you post a decklist perhaps? Kind regards

[@motorboot2822]

That zombie deck looks awesome!

[@fastydave]

Great games and love the content, thanks!

[@phoenixmtg1364]

Infernal grasp should have been doom blade or go for the throat. That was some close games tho

[@Aaackermann]

If you could submit a presideboarded deck (or at least a prebuild deck) against Murktide why on earth wasn't it presideboarded? 😅 I was rooting for the underdog here. And it was really close. Cool video!

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thorben was apparently confident enough to submit a deck that was not pre-boarded 😅

[@nym053]

Oh god. Have been playing no ban historic on Arena the last few days, and Andrea's deck is definetly one of the meta ones in that event. And like the other meta ones, it's also very annoying to play against for an aggro/beatdown player like me 😅

[@Ricardo8388]

So he knew what deck he had to beat and he put in infernal grasp? So many good removal options and he chooses that xD

[@SirPuncake]

Lost to running infernal grasp over go for the throat. What a shame. Was really rooting for the zombie brew.

[@MrRomanrin]

26:20 zombies actually WON! GG! ZOMBIES FTW. even if its a cheap deck compared to the other one amazing

[@peeporiot9948]

Love how this shows that you don't need to pour insane amounts of money to be competitive, there is synergy everywhere.

[@dapperlove9777]

Duel commander would be really cool to see

[@brisingr0962]

Andrea when he figures out what undead augur does

[@TehKorwinMikke]

If only we could come back in time to this game and swap Infernal Grasp into the LCI black removal that allows discarding a card instead of losing life!

[@dylanmahoney4889]

Love to see a death shadow deck! 😅

[@Be70200]

Wasn't this one of the budget modern decks Seth made on mtggoldfish? Is this a sneaky Cardmarket vs Mtggoldfish duel?

[@CardmarketMagic]

This is just the list submitted by our user :) they did not claim to have made it themselves. But we are having MTG Goldfish over in a little over a month to record some similar videos :D