Cass Elliot - Interview (Russell Harty Plus, 28.10.1972)

Cass Elliot appears in the British chat show "Russell Harty Plus" in October 1972.
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#CassElliot

[@univibe23]

She oozes intelligence. I once read that she was always the center of attention in any gathering...now I can see why.

[@Sanctified57]

Easily impressed I see. Yes she was witty, but she’s also an entertainer. Hardly oozing intelligence. She was a singer, not a rocket scientist

[@sundance81677]

@@Sanctified57 Trolls are like fleas. They’re everywhere.

[@curly6619]

Stupendous woman. No wonder the rest of the group was so jealous of her.

[@cameronduff884]

I'm just discovering that Cass was politically active, I'm sorry she didn't live longer, sounds like she would have done some good.

[@horaciocapanelli-soto4710]

@sanctified57 Since when being intelligent is only exclusive to science? 🤔

[@vicnatl2000]

Wow! I can’t believe how he spoke to her. It’s sad that she probably had to endure body shaming her entire lifetime.

[@selah7779]

That wouldn't happen nowadays. Sued all those body shamers...

[@luvinjam]

She did. It's so sad

[@luvinjam]

@Common Sense Isn't Common why watch it twice? It's right in his introduction

[@Keef_DGAF]

as i understand it, she reveled in it.. she loved being misunderstood .. generally those of us with high intelligence get a certain kick out of people who judge a person by what they see when we know they havent a clue what they are messing with

[@Keef_DGAF]

@Common Sense Isn't Common right in the intro

[@latinguy67]

I LOVE Mama Cass. Classy, poised and she threw shade at him. He tried to come for her, and he failed.

[@ynotnilknarf39]

"come for her", what the fuck are you on about, he interviewed her and asked good tasking questions as an interviewer should. FFS you people are living in a realm of fantasy and delusion!

[@geo-george2639]

@@ynotnilknarf39 He was unnecessarily snarky to her.

[@ynotnilknarf39]

@@geo-george2639 Explain how?

[@Sanctified57]

geo-george2 That was just his manner with every interview. You should have seen his interviews with David Bowie and Elton John, Harty was incredibly respectful and gracious to Cass in comparison

[@steveguzman6141]

So he was turned on lolz prob she was sexy but he didn't want to admit it.

[@iray6167]

Decades after her death she is still dearly missed by millions. Cass Elliot’s personality shines through the screen.

[@tiffanyroseangeles34]

Oh shining every smile I miss her so I feel I knew her I love how she. Dealt w those shitty men,now that’s a legend!

[@anthonyconino329]

Now that, my friend. Is the truth.and if she lost about 100 pounds, she would be hot. But she chose to eat herself to death.

[@riffraff8490]

Boy did I underestimate this woman. She was special. So much more than a fantastic singer.

[@bobolsen8067]

Cass completly destroyed Russel Harty in this interview.He tried to”outsmart her”and she just crushed him.A very intelligent woman.RIP

[@jayvos6226]

Agreed.

[@Keef_DGAF]

he shouldnt have tried she was an incredibly intelligent woman

[@AnahataMaryjane]

@@Keef_DGAF not only intelligent but witty, not all smart people are quick on the uptake like that.

[@parlez-vousfrancais9731]

@Chris Cipollini Indeed they seemd to get on very well. Weird how some people see things

[@blackmore4]

@@parlez-vousfrancais9731 Reading KZbin comments on interview pages has become too weird. There seems to be a bizarre new KZbin 'sport' of despising the interviewer. And the anger involved is absolutely incomprehensible.

[@Hughenn]

I was out shopping with my mom around 1971, 1972 and she said, look there’s mama Cass. Indeed there she was surrounded by her bodyguards. I was too young to appreciate her but I still remember that.

[@AnahataMaryjane]

i ran into one aged 80's 'sex symbol' at dairy queen in podunk, canada, where i live. that's my only famous person sighting. your story is way cooler.

[@jonahvasquez6210]

I saw her too in 1985 😗

[@awake7586]

@@jonahvasquez6210 she died before that bro

[@jonahvasquez6210]

@@awake7586 No shit sherlock.

[@josephg6260]

@Jarred Knox because she was one of the most biggest stars on planet at the time .

[@suzannes4619]

Awful how everyone used to make fun of her weight.

[@jennilynthecatlover4512]

I know right she was great woman

[@imcherbitch943]

It’s awful isn’t it. ‘Now here’s a big lady!’ really?!

[@geob5606]

Especially when you consider the majority of Americans flirt with obesity.

[@arongunner1522]

😊😊I'm very pls to know I'm not the only one that loves😍 the song but when last did you play it

[@yeadogthazmyboi]

@@JohannesWOW oh come on. You are being naive if you think that wasn’t an intentional allusion to her weight.

[@SicKid210]

She’s suspicious because of people like him

[@Freddd95]

What´s wrong with him?

[@yeadogthazmyboi]

@@Freddd95 he’s kind of disrespectful. He started her introduction by saying “she is a big woman” it was an obvious jibe at her weight. That was a pretty low move

[@KaydeyRai]

It makes for good tv tbh, nowadays everything seems so rehearsed, fake and sanitised - it’s boring and patronising, these old interviews are a million times more interesting to watch, Cass was really sharp here and held her own against him, she came across really well

[@patpeterson2671]

No , she is fu#king very smart ...that is the difference ...... she was sharp as a fu#king tack ......

[@Sanctified57]

Timothy B Actually that’s the most respectful interview I’ve seen Harty give. So one can see why Grace Jones slapped him, Elton John implied he was unprofessional, and David Bowie had barely concealed contempt towards him

[@janishaldeman3339]

Her grace, dignity, intelligence and beauty are admirable!

[@anastaciaemilia4026]

you summed it well

[@jimhood1202]

I'd never heard her interviewed before this and wasn't surprised to find her quick witted and funny and insightful, smart and passionate. Somehow that all came though to me before, in her singing. Such a shame we lost her so young.

[@marguskiis7711]

She made the M&P shows almost singlehandedly. She was the centre of their shows.

[@julialovesnancy81]

i love her voice, talking and singing!

[@sambrownsings]

She is so quick and so smart. I love how she outwitted him at every turn, completely charming and unbothered. She was taken from us too soon.

[@duanefentiman]

I'm 37 and the first time I've heard this lady speak and I love her !! amazing powerful woman !

[@beautifulwreck7296]

I'm 55 and this is my first time hearing her talk too. She is very smart, pretty and talented. This video makes me want to learn more about her.

[@viralbuthow000]

Smart as a whip this woman.

[@petmey5281]

How so?

[@randywhite3947]

Pet Mey watch the interview

[@datatwo7405]

@2Cache I didn't know she had an IQ of 160, until now. No wonder she could handle him so adroitly.

[@bindardundat454]

WAS ! Before the evil ham sandwich attached

[@johngore7744]

@@bindardundat454 with that comment I suspect an IQ of 12. Just like your age.

[@Magravator1671]

Proof that being lovely on the inside makes you lovely on the outside. Amazing voice and incredible talent.

[@Magravator1671]

@@billy77511 I'm calling her beautiful. Yes she was fat. So am I. What's your point?

[@JoannaSternbergYoutube]

she was lovely on the outside! and the inside!

[@moistsalt]

Well that was backhanded...

[@Magravator1671]

@@moistsalt Only if you take it that way.

[@tiffanyroseangeles34]

Love you said this important.

[@JDoradoTube]

Love the way she handles this interview. Well spoken with such confidence and fluidity.

[@OGDweeb]

Cass was a severely underrated alto singer

[@joejones9520]

her voice is the female voice we heard in Mamas and papas, they probably wouldnt have made it without her voice.

[@hijodelaisla275]

There it is, the meaningless "underrated" comment.

[@GaryWattsWorks]

This interview with Cass Elliot could be in 2021 - Totally confident and knowledgeable... Very well spoken !

[@skyylea9859]

I agree she sound so modern. I’m just now learning about her .

[@MrTheblackopsdude]

Her responses and tibits are still relavent and applicable to today's day and age, but the interviewer's questions wouldn't have been acceptable in today's age

[@Yes-bp1vw]

I disagree! She sounds way smarter than a generation that is lost between correcting people about their *chosen* gender for the day, and getting angry at people wanting women rights for women only.

[@elizabethtalley2931]

I loved Cass Elliott! She was a classy person! Well spoken!

[@jedijones]

Except she couldn't say she was against the women's movement now. The left would label her a far right Trumper and cancel her.

[@bellabeezzz5760]

Cass Elliot..total class and sex appeal. Talent , a voice yet to be rivaled. She was smart, current in conversation and sharp. Beautiful combination. She was a rare gem.

[@thomasjust2663]

Sex appeal? Only if you like to go to buffets

[@ThatGuy-du3sq]

@@thomasjust2663 Sex appeal is not about looks. Her confidence, intellegence, and the way she conduct herself can be a form of sex appeal. And btw, some girls with extra meat are a lot better in bed than those who are so-called "slim and hot." My experience.

[@charliegander]

@@thomasjust2663 you’re so obsessed and creepy, you have commented hate comments ten times on this channel which is about Cass, so odd that you actually comment stuff like that

[@broeheemed32]

@@charliegander "Hate" is calling someone "creepy" because you don't agree with them.

[@delishme2]

She was so glorious, I wish she had lived longer, she deserved her own success. RIP lady, thank you for the legacy you left.

[@tmc1372]

Glorious. Yes.

[@lanaodierna7531]

She was intelligent, beautiful, and incredibly talented! Miss her!!!! ☹️❤️

[@thebrownboy2002.]

She was sooo beautiful 😍

[@prinspray]

So agree!

[@prinspray]

@ STFU

[@alienboy8126]

Paolo Panza cass and Michelle were both beautiful, put respect on their names

[@lorraineforte9175]

The boy of horror, Do you mean beautiful as a person?

[@thebrownboy2002.]

@@prinspray thank u!!!

[@itsjustme9354]

She was an interesting character her voice was beyond amazing.

[@razback8661]

You couldn't help but like her. And she doesn't sound like a druggie. Very articulate. A life cut off WAY too soon.

[@estelleschneider9033]

Very dad. Beautiful lady and voice..she shortened her life by abusing her body with drugs and food...like her a lot ..nice personality. ..her voice could have taken her far had she lived. : (

[@Ethericrose]

How does a druggy sound? As for abusing her body with food, do we not ALL have an addiction to something that's not good for our bodies, state of mind, personal spiritual growth? E.g..Food, alcohol, toxic substances both illegal or prescription, chocolate, relationships ect!

[@lcross796]

@@Ethericrose A druggie will sound tired all the time

[@cesarcueto1995]

@@lcross796 lol bologna

[@Ned88Man]

she enjoyed drugs of all kinds, she did heroin with David Crosby. Not everyone who does drugs does so in an abusive way

[@rocketsfan6116]

Some people have an impeccable ability to transcend generations. She was truly splendid.

[@ThitiCE]

She is so gorgeous ♡

[@iloveyouserjjx]

no cap

[@returnofthebrotha]

Hmmmm...

[@Sanctified57]

Er!....no

[@ThitiCE]

@@Sanctified57 o yes, she is! ☺

[@knockshinnoch1950]

Cass was a hell of a lady. Smart, funny and of course that amazing voice. It saddens me to think of all the great songs she never got to sing.

[@jaredjlinden]

Cass Elliot was a not only a fine singer but also a witty, charismatic person.

[@Bananadiva1]

Not only was Cass an incredibly talented as a singer and an actress she was fiercely intelligent. A truly astonishing talent. How she never became a huge Broadway star I'll never know. It's a criminal oversight. Her performance of The Night Before from her live LP is like nothing I've ever heard.

[@michaelamanandamouse7904]

Cass auditioned for Mrs. Marmelstein in They Can Get It For You Wholesale. The part, of course, went to Barbra Streisand. Interesting to think what might've been had Cass gotten the part.

[@Bananadiva1]

@@michaelamanandamouse7904 yeah I think she'd have been a phenomenal actress. When you listen to her soaring emotive performances on songs like The Road Is No Place For A Lady, Who's To Blame, When It Doesn't Work Out and Sweet Believer she just draws you in and you believe every word she says.

[@thomasjust2663]

Unfortunately, she was a crack head, snorted cocaine like there was no tomorrow and thus died

[@superficialwannabe]

He is so emphatically intimidated by her. Hence his wormy attitude. MAMA CASS is like thunder.

[@Freddd95]

I don´t see a "wormy attitude", I think they are both just talking friendly.

[@ynotnilknarf39]

delusional nonsense, you're watching something utterly different to what normal people are seeing!

[@jennifergottliebel-azhari149]

I knew she was a great singer but did not realize how articulate and bright she was.

[@user-pf7ef6nk3p]

What a well spoken, interesting beautiful woman cass really was definatly missed

[@TeeToes]

Damn she was smart

[@BixLives32]

God Bless Cass Elliot. BTW, she did NOT die of eating any sort of sandwich. It was simply a heart attack. For a person with the greatest heart on Earth, this is ironic.

[@nicksilva7113]

god she was so intelligent, talented, and gorgeous! such a shame she was taken so soon :(

[@willittolife]

How could anyone want to be cruel or rude to this woman... she was brilliant, entertaining and completely lovely on every level.

[@lindaeasley5606]

People who took her lightly did so at their own risk of looking stupid and shallow . I've watched many clips of Cass in interviews and appearances on variety shows and I've only come across two appearances she made where they went there with her weight A Lulu special in England where all the jokes were aimed at her and a Carol Burnett show appearance.Everyone else treated her with respect and dignity

[@rainbowgold6410]

I know right!

[@socoolsantino6712]

Now here’s a big lady? Really

[@ysgol3]

Typically stupid Russell Harty remark - GREAT to see Cass though.

[@blackmore4]

Was she small? Did they get along? Try a little harder not to be offended by everything.

[@blackmore4]

@Bella Bella I disagree. Stating someone's size used not to be considered 'fat shaming'. If he'd done so insultingly, of course, it would have been condemnable. But he didn't. More significantly, he was not only alluding to her size but her talent and personality. Try to view people less judgementally and without such a hawkish lens of victimisation.

[@SicKid210]

blackmore4 just like you’re offended enough to justify your point genius

[@blackmore4]

@@SicKid210 The offended never offend me, they just need a calm explanation as to why their offence is misplaced.

[@datatwo7405]

I've always loved Cass Elliot, but I had never heard her in an interview. I just love her that much more after watching this. If she wasn't such a star, I bet she would have been a wonderful person to get to know. Why do all the good people seem to leave us so soon? There seems to be such a genuineness about her that is rarer now than even back then. And I think she handled the interviewer quite well and with perfect tact and charm. You are so very missed Cass Elliot!

[@mrfester42]

I grew up listening to her while she was alive but I never really heard her speak freely. Man, not only is she more than eloquent, her gift for repartee is so well developed that you almost don't notice how she is dominating the conversation. She leaves you unable to get over on her and puts you at ease while doing it. She's very captivating.

[@sugarlove]

He is the same guy who interviewed Grace Jones and got slapped by her. Now i can understand things much better!

[@winterlandboy]

Exactly

[@amourtoujours779]

i need to see that interview. Grace Jones is a GODDESS!

[@sharksport01]

She slapped my friend too, he was trying to give her a dozen roses.

[@t.t993]

Oooohh you make me wanna go and watch that now🤣

[@raziarana6946]

Amazing voice

[@majesstic777]

Wow cass...u were so genuine and caring and perceptive...I am so drawn to u you beautiful wonderful lady. U are very missed❤

[@mrrocknroll5284]

Let what I have written sink in to all the girls who feel self concoius. "why be a kardashian, when you can be a mama cass"

[@smctree]

If only the young girls today would stop and do what you suggest!

[@bigbadbillb]

Right on! 🙌

[@BeatlesGirlKaren]

Even though this interviewer is lame, it's great to hear Cass speaking so down to earth. You can see why people were drawn to her!

[@apt5044]

Amazingly articulate and intelligent. So sad

[@TalmadgeGray]

What an intelligent kind soul. Gone too soon.

[@watchinvidzwatchinvidz7691]

The good ones always leave us to soon.

[@rogersargent6453]

Wonderful interview! My first time to see it, and I just turned 66 years old. Love Cass!! Thanks so much for sharing this!!

[@majesstic777]

Same here and I'm 42..I wasn't around when she was alive yet but I'm very taken by her. Wow what could've been ya know???

[@sarahwiliams1384]

yes

[@littleCarmine]

Now you're 70. Happy birthday Roger

[@shiannecouch4844]

She was a delightful young woman with light in her eyes 🕯️

[@sochowell3469]

Loved the interview. So smart and classy. And what a voice.

[@matthatter2849]

Cass really WAS taken from us way too soon! What makes it so sad is that she SURVIVED the '60's unlike some of her colleagues. We can imagine what Jimi and Janis might have done later, but they're preserved in that time period. Cass made it past all that and we got a taste of where she was going in her career and it looked very, very promising.

[@lindaeasley5606]

I think Cass ,unlike many of her peers ,had her head on straight and was able to say , hey I don't need the drugs . Jimi ,Janis and Jim were very troubled souls

[@AndrewNeilJackson]

If you've read Graham Nash's book you will see she very much was into drugs and succumbed to them in a similar way to those you mention

[@bryantipton5573]

Only recently have I noticed the brilliance of mama Cass. Her voice, and well, her interviews. She had her problems, ok, haven't we all. Great voice and I wish she was here with us now.

[@stevestevenson1486]

Russel was just about the worst, most insincere, poorly researched, insulting interviewer ever.

[@delishme2]

He is just a bit##y queen. She handled herself and him perfectly.

[@paulanthonyhoeflich8988]

So many are insincere these days.

[@jimgagne3801]

Steve Stevenson : well put said, but I'll say it in layman terms......he is a DOUCHE

[@steveguzman6141]

He sounds constipated 💩💩💩💩💩

[@rainbowgold6410]

He's disqusting.

[@raphaelrau1728]

Cass Eliot you were easily one of the best and greatest singers in Rock Music History. Oh what might have been if you had lived! Much missed and adored! RIP. Mama Cass.

[@derekmyers3258]

She left me with a warm feeling.

[@MrNorvegicus]

No wonder she never did interviews, Russell Harty talked down to her, looked her up and down like she was obtuse, where of course its the other way round. Cass Elliot came across as very lucid and engaging, such a shame she passed away so young

[@Olivia-ns1ju]

She is so charming and timeless. I feel like her banter/ the way she speaks is crazily modern sounding.

[@Wendy____]

I thought that as well.

[@charwest9449]

Very talented. Cass Elliot had the best voice ever. Wish she was still around.

[@OllyBaldwin1978]

Such a beautiful woman. Her voice was like sliding into a warm bubbly bath. Comfortable, safe and soothing. X

[@lindaackerman3507]

I just love her, she was such a real person......and she can really sing.😘

[@arongunner1522]

😊😊I'm very pls to know I'm not the only one that loves😍 the song but when last did you play it

[@jeffreyrossman8661]

Hello Linda 👋 How are you feeling today I hope your day is as bright as your pretty smile today.

[@wl5609]

She's a one of a kind woman! Pure joy!...♥️

[@myguitardetective5961]

Oh....she was so articulate and adorable. I really miss her....Thank you for uploading this wonderful interview!

[@jimmac5176]

Not only the best voice, but a lovely, caring girl she was !

[@gregman1715]

LOVE THIS GREAT LADY💕

[@lisar3193]

What an amazing woman. Beautiful voice and incredible soul. I was a tot when she passed. I'm not sure just how it happened but I have idolised her for years. This is the first interview I've ever seen. Beauty, grace, humour and integrity. All The Leaves Are Brown 🍁❤️

[@thomasjust2663]

How it happened? she eat a ton, snorted cocaine and the end, she had a heart attack

[@Bwianman85]

Damn she was a pistol. She was crazy smart, very pretty and had a killer voice. Very sad she passed away so soon 😢

[@lordtrimly]

I hadn’t realized how beautiful she was....taken far far too soon.

[@latinguy67]

she has NO makeup on, and she's STUNNING

[@mattyboyd4045]

She’s so intelligent. And then she sings... and you see she’s also beyond gifted.

[@elizabethlatorre5360]

I have a new appreciation for Cass . She was so talented and very intelligent

[@r1verman]

She has left such a lasting impression in her short life and career. Such a beautiful, intelligent, and talented woman. She will forever be iconic.

[@kweebec]

What a shining star. Even in the face of the last wave of truly disgusting, judgmental press. She made herself the QUEEN of this interview. bravo.

[@OzmaOfOzz]

Cass was so smart, witty, talanted and funny. I love her energy, she is so beautiful in every way. Gone too soon 🥺

[@tmo7734]

An incredibly interesting interview. Cass had an absolutely wonderful voice. Deeply miss it to this day.

[@Lorenzoselas]

What a gem of a human being. In a time where drugs are so prevalent u don’t expect her to come across so well spoken & articulate. May she Rest In Peace.

[@Multivariable_Calqlus]

The epitome of dignity, poise, talent, and beauty.

[@brianwilson3952]

She was Beautiful.

[@barbarawebb7185]

Hi Brian. Love The Beach Boys.

[@sharonisaac445]

ABSOLUTELY, was thinking the same, and also she is very intelligent and down to earth.!!!!

[@brianwilson3952]

@Leroy B Yeah. Miss the old git.

[@brianwilson3952]

@@barbarawebb7185 Thanks. Want an autograph?

[@barbarawebb7185]

BRIAN WILSON yes!

[@thomaskurtz9592]

I had no idea how engaging and intelligent Cass was

[@leonhughes134]

What a lovely and articulate lady. She would have been one of the most famous of the stars had she lived on.

[@bartstarr100]

She was very famous, not sure what point you are making.

[@leonhughes134]

@@bartstarr100 that could be your failing then and not mine. I think I’ve been reasonably clear in what I was articulating here.

[@britturk123]

Russel Harty at times was so arrogant, I guess this was a time when men were supposed to be hard and tough and journalistic but Cass Elliot was so beautifully intelligent she almost made him look good.

[@STRM1991]

"Now here's a big lady." My eyes instantly rolled.

[@undeadnightorc]

I've seen other interviews of her and she was incredibly witty and charismatic in all of them.

[@josierenee3613]

I love her! She is so intelligent and personable and I honestly think she is beautiful. Her soul shines through her sparkling eyes, her wit, her smile, her beautiful hair, her warmth, the fact that she was dehumanized her whole life for her weight is tragic, I'm so glad that she held her head up high and knew her worth despite all of that

[@richc8253]

Beautiful lady with a magnificent voice!!

[@braincrisp1]

Her intellect, confidence, charm, and charisma is so magnetic.

[@yg-lc4ll]

Mama Cass was a beautiful, kind and SMART women. She is the one that totally made the "Mama and Papas" made the musical group to have made it as a legend and this musical history better.

[@yairmoreno9091]

She was so beuatiful but more than that she was and still is an amazing artist!!! 🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡

[@DarkHorse_-rw4dc]

Amazing voice, came out of this lady. What a true Gem.

[@stephnewman1357]

Loved her voice. Never seen this in colour before. 😀

[@martinrobinson9061]

The way Russell Harty is speaking to Cass Elliot is unreal, and there’s people who want to go back to those times.

[@robertsiler5880]

“Cass Elliot, a lovely lady!” A John Denver quote that truly sums her up! There will never be another Mama Cass

[@UWPower]

Fantastically intelligent, I imagine she was the life of just any party she went to. What a conversationalist!

[@theresanovak4199]

I am so sorry that she died so young. What a smart, witty and charming person she was, aside from having a wonderful voice. RIP, sweet lady. You are missed.

[@ajr2032]

I had no idea how articulate she was. I was born much later than this interview.

[@bobbyb7979]

I remember her years ago, and bought a couple of her songs (45 records lol). She was a jokester and quite humorous!

[@carolsanders3979]

I like listening to her talk she sounds so intelligent and well spoken.

[@finnappleyard]

Cass really was an intelligent lady, I am so impressed. Wish she was still here!❤

[@sdgakatbk]

She was SO sharp and quick! This was a delight!

[@famb31]

A smart and classy lady.

[@bernardbrenner6088]

When she was a sophomore, she planned to go to Swarthmore.

[@ccgrey8731]

She is so charming. Seems like someone one would want to be friends with. Such a sad thing that her life ended at a young age.

[@beasmith3386]

Would love to have her at a fantasy dinner party - I could listen to her talk and listen to her stories all night.

[@domainofthesun4400]

​@Raccoon your mother should keep you off KZbin, kid

[@catherinemoore9534]

Clever and prescient. Great woman.💖

[@tjfSIM]

Beautiful, smart, witty and talented. Very sad that she died so young.

[@benkleschinsky]

"Broke, that's what is was like most of the time." When musicians truly played for the love of music.